Oh it’s just so disappointing. Sophie deserves so much better than constantly having green and inexperienced horses. They’re always showing Sophie’s fails in thumbnails and using them for clickbait, and then when Sophie does something really well they use Gaby’s achievements as bait. I just find it so unfair it’s like Sophie’s just on the sidelines and fodder for bait and I really want to see HER journey because she’s conquering so much anxiety sometimes. I hope they do better for her, set her up to succeed rather than to fail.
@@ninagonzalez5046 i agree i also think that their parent Laura made them get into it cause ive heard her say countles times how they wanted their kids to be around horses
In this situation Sophie isn't a bad kid, she just has no idea what she's doing so it falls on the parents to make the right choices. Sophie needs a good trainer, a 12+yr old horse, tall enough for her, and has had plenty of experience to accommodate a rider who is learning and off-balanced. I was sincerely hoping they would get her an ex-lesson horse or something. She can barley sit in the saddle properly and keep herself balanced right now, so they go out and get her a 5yr race horse??? I'm speechless I really am. Odd comparison but this is no different than a young, first time dog owner getting a malinois instead of say a Lab, not knowing how to train it then coming home to your house torn up and thinking to yourself "where did I go wrong? I love this dog but I just can't control it, maybe I'm just a bad owner". Like no, you're just not ready for that dog, get a more beginner friendly breed
Well said. There’s a reason Gabby’s progression has been so much smoother than Sophie’s and it is essentially rooted in the way she began. With a true kick-along, bombproof, forgiving, laid back and confidence giving little horse. That foundation makes all the difference. I suspect they’re trying to buy Sophie a horse that will fulfil her jumper ambition so she doesn’t feel left behind, but there’s no way for her to learn when she’s constantly overhorsed.
@@spellywelly Exactly. There's no harm in leasing a well experienced horse for her to learn on for a year-couple years, then they could think about getting her a younger horse for her to jump. I have a really bad feeling about this horse, sure his nature might be sweet but as an ex race horse he might get over excited and she could hurt herself really bad if she falls, I really really hope she doesn't get hurt
I hope Sophie has friends in her life that tell her there's a difference between hate and constructive criticism, because we all know her parents aren't.
And the horse needs to be a giant that can cope with a sack of potatoes flopping around on its back because Sophie clearly has no intentions of working on improving her own physicality in order to improve her seating.
I had the perfect for inexperienced riders. I deer hunted on my farm and could fire a high powered rifle from his back 😮. That's after a ton of working with him. He was bomb proof. I miss you Rocky !!
-and maybe also have her parents learn how to feed her in a healthy way. Poor thing… it’s not her fault. Her parents need to help her NOW and teach themselves and especially their daughter, healthy and safe habits.
@@countchocula5379thx for saying this. I have seen and known many overweight people who eat the average American diet of junk food and have rather large children. I'm not fat-shaming, it's just really sad because they are nice people, and losing weight is hard and their kids don't know any better. My cat is very obese and has trouble losing weight- he always finds it again.
she don't need draft cross... What Sophie need, is old classic type of warmblood, on strong legs, in square body shape... Those horses have steady balance, and classic walk in all speeds... cross breeds are really tricky about this... I talking as a plus-size rider myself i.ibb.co/PWFY0Wj/140987738-10208066423374998-5535605622470629228-n.jpg
@@madmare1814 I see that you are younger and your grammar isn’t the best, I agree with your statement though, draft crosses are usually stocky and sturdy. Which is what she needs.
I know I'm late to the party, but honestly this. That mom seems like she''s forcing her own interests (?) hobbies (?) onto the kid. Sophie couldn't even answer the first question properly, when asked about what she likes in the horse, but as soon as she stuttered one sentence the mom started yapping. That girl is what, 10? 11? And she's SO underwhelmed by this horse, while the mother is much more excited. She should just get one for herself and learn how to ride and leave that poor girl alone. I feel like she doesn't have much of a choice whether she even wants to be around horses or not, and the parents/mother exploits her for content and kinda forces her to stay into it by flooding her with new horses over and over again.
Have you ever worked with OTTBs? If you work slow with them and don't just hop on there and give her, he might very well be slow. I'm working with thoroughbreds after the track, yes winning horses as well, and even when we canter next to each other they don't want to race anymore. Sweetest souls I've ever met. All they want is you to spend time with you and attention and they are in your pocket.
Unfortunatly, Laura (and her husband) seems like someone who is “never ever wrong”. No matter how many straight facts and stats are spit in her direction, she will still continue blindly screaming “the trainer is great cuz he agrees with everything we say”, “the horse is so nice which means he’ll never throw anyone”, “she’ll be fine cuz i say she will be”, “ive ridden some horses so i know everything i need to”. She is the epitome of the stereotype of someone who cover their ears and screams “lahlahlah” because they dont want to listen to anyone else or ever be proven wrong. That being said, never stop making vids on their ignorance lol. Even if THEY refuse to be helped by it, your vids definitely help many others see things through an alternate lens, and that itself could save someone lots of trouble.
Damn straight. I 100% agree and every single time, they act like valid criticism and advice is “hate” because they just can’t admit they’re wrong. No truer words have been spoken
@@Equestrianluvv Everyone who's comments Laura likes on the channel are comments that agree with her. And most of those are from kids. I said someone was going to get hurt when they had Stella. And I'll say it again, someone is going to get hurt.
Let's see how calm he is once he gets some proper food in him. I've seen plenty of OTTB get sold to naive your girls at the dressage barn where I worked. They were all pretty mellow while they were in "racing form", or as we normal people call it, underfed. Once they got some feed in them and an open arena, they were completely different animals, and often ended up being sold again within a year.
I must add one more thing. Chance's build is not right for Sophie, even when he does gain weight. When Sophie riders other more draft horses, she honestly rides million times better, so i don't know why they got an ottb that are not only known for being more hot blooded but also having more of a narrow build. The situation that Chance and Sophie are put in is not fair for either of them. Blame mostly goes to the trainer, but also to parents which are being ignorant (they already bought Sophie two green horses before, so they should have learnt by now).
@@kld7346 an Off the Track ThoroughBred. When they retire from the track, they are usually given 3-6 months to just be a horse….eat, sleep, socialize with other horses. Basically just chill. Then they go thru a retraining period where they learn how to walk nicely on a lead, stand nicely for grooming and shoeing, and then trained to walk, trot, and canter both directions, first on a lunge line and then with a rider. They learn the proper aides. This process takes at least a year. Laura says Chance has done all this, but he hasn’t even been off the track one year yet!! Most OTTB retraining facilities in the US would not sell a horse to an 11yr old girl who is a beginner rider. Actually, they wouldn’t sell Chance the way he is now, so skinny and lacing in muscles. Plus he is cow hocked in the back, and toes out on the right front. Nobody should be riding him..
I've seen this happen before. Green mom got her green daughter a 5 year old OTTB as her first horse. We all told her mom it was a bad idea. He was actually a decent horse but racing had ruined him. After a year and thousands in vet bills, he had to be euthenized. Mom had great intentions but simply wasn't educated.
I've owned horses for 50 years and Raleigh, you couldn't be more correct. Your honesty and experience should not fall on deaf ears. " Off the track" horses are adopted all the time out of emotion to find them a home. Emotion should not be the motivation to adopt or purchase any horse without many more considerations which you have so well stated. This story is way too prevalent and usually ends up in a bad situation. Green on green, makes for black and blue. Just ask any orthopedic surgeon, how many horse accidents wind up in surgery.
Yes Marlene,you are absolutely spot on with your comment. I have been involved in the horse industry for many decades, as well. I have owned two OTTB former Race horses, and rehomed them after many years of riding and showing, as well as raising and starting my own colts. More experienced horse people need to call out the disingenuous 'players' and remind them that people can be injured, or even lose their lives in accidents involving horses. Responsible horse ownership is paramount. Matching riders to horses that best suit their level of ability, is crucial.
Green on green makes black and blue is my mantra that I commented just five minutes ago before reading your comment. Suffice it to say, I agree with you.
I honestly think the worst thing to do is putting green on green. The GASP I let out when they said Chance's 5 is ungodly. I'd give Sophie free riding lessons for free if I could, just to give her an idea of what a good lesson should look and feel like. Wish her the best
I like when teachers give the first lesson for free so the student can get the feel for the barn and stuff. My neighbor gives lessons and she gave me one for free just to get the feel of things. Needless to say, I’m going back. :)
One day, when this horse bolts(and we all know he will), Sophie will scream, yank on his mouth and eventually end up on the ground. She will then do the same thing she did to Finn. She will not want to ride him and pass on her anxiety to Chance and the cycle will begin. The horse was supposed to be 17.1 and is a full hand shorter. what else are the withholding?
Chance is 16.2 /16.3 hands. He needs weight but being off the track he still in racing weight. Once he starts gaining weight his attitude is going to change. I had a TB and once I started to feed him he got hot tempered.
@@mediceventer I've seen that exact thing several times at the rescue I volunteer at. The opposite with my Arab cross, who was overweight. She got hotter as she got fitter.
@@mediceventer this is true!! I’ve seen an ottb and it was used at my old lesson barn and they would put the little little kids on it like 4 years old or something it still needed some weight but it was great with kids. Until it got weight on.. it completely changed.. and no one could ride him.
agreed. beginner riders need to either learn properly how to use their reins, or ride a horse that doesn't mind his mouth being messed with. i can guarantee most of these inexperienced horses will not tolerate being yanked in the mouth.
It's so sad. But all Laura keeps harping on is that he's calm, well great, that doesn't address his lack of experience, the lack of correct muscling despite the "almost a year of training" and his narrow build. It's not about being skinny, it's his bone structure. The few bits we see of him being lunged and ridden show a horse being worked incorrectly to develop the muscles needed. This was a terrible choice and irresponsible on all parties.
Sophie often rides a nice thick lesson horse that seems like a confidence builder. On another note: I think Laura is a very impulsive person who loves to spend money and bases horse-buying decisions on how sweet a horse's personality "seems." As if that's the only thing that matters. They are always looking for new farms to buy, new horses to buy, new trucks, trailers, etc. Very scattered and disorganized. Laura also reminds me of a stage mom but the equestrian-ish version.
@@sdlboston2947 I Completely agree with you, but will also add that Laura bases her horse buying decisions on their color and whether or not she dreams about them.
I worked with a 7 year old that had a lot of not new rider friendly habits due to previous training and I cannot imagine her trying to ride him much less the one she has now
When I was Sophie's age, I had been riding for about a year and was a little fearful. As a beginner rider, I would have been terrified if my instructor made me ride a horse like this. I saw the barn owner's daughter (who was a great rider and very experienced) riding her OTTB, and that horse was crazy. It was obvious to me that he needed a lot of training and an experienced rider. I was grateful for the nice, quiet horses I started out with. I feel that Sophie's mom may mean well, but she may be contributing to fearfulness in her daughter that will ruin her enjoyment of riding as a lifelong sport. JMO
They constantly exploit their children for money and it upsets me so much because Sophie needs a horse that’ll look after her and learn in private without broadcasting everything to the internet. I couldn’t imagine how I would cope if my parents filmed every fault I made whilst riding and broadcasted it to the internet especially knowing how toxic this community can be.
Quite literally getting a OTTB is like getting a unstarted horse, a trainer will need to go through the whole starting process again, lay down a new foundation, set the basics. This scares me so much, they just dont listen!
It's often worse than getting an unstarted horse, as they will most likely have bad habits already that are difficult to get rid of, not to mention the health issues OTTBs often come with due to being started wayyyy too young
@@jayATUKIt’s far worse than that. A racehorse is physically built due to the way races are designed (especially on all racetracks horses run one way), they don’t change leads and the horses develop a lot of muscles on one side and rarely use the other lead. A lot of trainers have to retrain and develop the other lead because the horse is so unbalanced on their other weak lead.
This whole thing is giving me deja vu. There was a trainer and student at my barn, and the trainer sold her green horse to her student. Guess what? The girl ended up with multiple broken bones. I know what can happen and I don’t want that to happen to Sophie. It’s irresponsible.
@@tumann_ yep, she ended up healing. We used to be friends, actually. We worked the same shift at the barn every night. I’m not sure where she rides now (if she still does).
The horse is calm right now because he is underweight. He’s in a slim physic RN because he’s FRESH off the track but as soon as he gains weight his personality will likely change drastically and will end with disaster
this happened to my horse and she’s not even fresh off the track. re started her last summer and she was chill and now that she’s fit it’s a whole new thing 😂 so yeah they’re headed for disaster
A few years ago Laura broke her pelvis when she fell off Stella because Stella was not an appropriate horse for her or Sophie. That is a HUGE, traumatic injury that should have been a wake up call for them about safety, but clearly it wasn't.
Totally understand this comment. Like this new horse is green and fresh and something really bad could happen to Sophie. Like if a 17.1 hand horse throws a smaller girl like her she could get seriously hurt
@Molly several months ago on another UA-cam channel it was examined in great depth and Laura did not have 7 breaks to her pelvis as she claimed on her channel. Again she lied. If you want me to go into detail on this I can or you can take my word. I have absolutely nothing to gain by saying any of this. If you are going to lie about things then expect to be called out and that is what I have done and as a medical student I proved it.
@Molly it was Laura herself who said she had 7 breaks not me. If you like I can direct you to the actual video since you think I'm such a liar. Also in some article Laura stated she shattered both pelvis', want that as well. What are you upset your idol is a liar?
my cousin, who i'd say is an intermediate-advanced rider and had her own horse for 10+ years, adopted a young OTTB thinking she had enough experience to handle him. He nearly killed her. She was very fortunate she survived.
This horse is an Ottb! Classic under muscle development, hollow, and under fed from racing they keep them extra light. My ottb looked just like this, and acted calm just like his until he got proper food in him and got more fit. Turned into a basket case. And he was 15 and 10 years off the track! Ottb are under developed and hollow going, this is a recipe for back issues and pain and anxiety. They are also notoriously stiff on the right side and have trouble bending in that direction and right lead pick up. I was 12 when I got him and the only thing that saved us was my dedication and excellent trainer who helped teach me to develop his muscles and loosen him up with classical dressage foundation training like seen on ArttoRide channel, who call starts with in hand work and lunging. This horse should be ridden very lightly until his top line gets developed. Those methods are basically what HAS to be done in order to get these horses using their bodies correctly by getting them strong and relaxed enough to do so, and not just forcing them in frames with tricky riding or worse rollkur methods that we even see in western world. It’s every horse owners responsibility to make sure their horse has a top line and know how to develop it and keep it that way so he can optimally carry a rider and move his body. Link could probably go for years more and change his attitude about being ridden if his top line got developed better, when I see him in videos I also see that he is not working over his back well. Some horses manifest symptoms by being lazy, others like my ottb he was high anxiety.
Omg so true. So many OTTBs are purchased are skinny, calm, “more woah than go” types. I love OTTBs but am the first to say they generally don’t make good beginning or novice horses until they are significantly retrained at least. If you buy a skinny under developed TB, you have no idea what their personality will actually be in good condition. You know what they say… green and green makes black and blue
Right!! My very first lease horse happened to be an OTTB (my trainer's uncle works on a track so she gets his retired horses) and he was about 16-17 and I rode him into his 20s. He had just recently completely calmed down, as in didn't pull any speed demons anymore. He is extremely large boned for a thoroughbred, and packs on muscle and weight. He was always known as the pet at the track because of his demeanor, but had those energy spurts when younger. When I learned on him, he was incredibly safe because he was my trainer's only horse at the time, and so so honest. Have never seen another horse as honest as him. He is as bomb proof as they come and would canter for days. He would get very heavy on the forehand and show a lack of balance, but my trainer knew him from inside to out and knew which riders could work with his riding style. Although it took 6 months to canter courses with him (because I couldn't stop him at the canter due to my inexperience and his tendency to hang onto the bit) he was incredibly safe and the best to learn on. He took me from learning how to post the trot to 2'9 double clears! but you see, he had done all of this before, and my trainer was VERY careful with our pace in progressing. Mentioning all of the above puts into perspective this situation. At this point in time, Sophie needs a horse she can, as everyone is stating, learn on. A horse she can make mistakes on that will not affect the horse. That is just not the case here, I am curious to see how this progresses. thanks so much for reading!! his name was Winnie, and I still see him almost everyday :) currently with a 14 yr old ottb Buck who came to me as a free lease problem horse but has now come with me to just about every show my last years of high school getting me the most ribbons❤️❤️ i just love these horses.
I’m so excited to watch and day by day needs to get their horses trained properly. They always show Sophie’s fails but Gaby usually is “super experienced” to the point where they make people think that Gaby doesn’t really fail too often
A 5 year old of the track horse knows how to do one thing. Run, run, run really fast. They are only trained for running on the track. Nothing else. They will be sorry if they take this horse out for a trail ride, because it will bolt since that's the only thing he has learned how to do really well.
I think Gabby is more invested in horses than the rest of the family. She would probably take every opportunity to ride and take lessons, go to clinics, workshops, watches videos to improve and actually applies corrections to herself. I'm not sure if Sophie is going to be a lifetime horse owner. And that's not a dig. It's perfectly okay because the horse crazy phase is super common. Some kids take lessons and show all throughout their school careers, then slowly lose interest and phase it out of their lives. I feel bad for Sophie though, I see myself at that age. Heavier than most other riders in my age group, behind on skills, with no one properly guiding me toward improvement. Or providing constructive criticism that would help me gain better balance and strength so I could be better for my horse. I think Laura speaks for other people most of the time in these vlogs and we don't get to hear Sophie's actual true thoughts. It aggravates me. She interrupts and talks over them and infuses her own opinion in the middle of their sentences. I actually really would have liked to see Sophie lease Denver for the summer. I almost guarantee improvements would be clearly visible by the end of the season. Riding green horses while being inexperienced and unbalanced means you end up riding defensively. It throws the horse off, is uncomfortable, and can make for really unenjoyable rides for both human and equine. Chance needs a full conditioning program, learning how to carry himself and building proper muscle... And Sophie does too. (I don't mean weight loss... I mean conditioning. She doesn't have to lose a single ounce to be conditioned and have good balance. She just needs to know how to use her body... just like Chance. She shouldn't be riding him til both those things happen. Everyone, especially kids, should learn how to be happy just having a relationship with their horse from the ground. Anything else is extra. Like, I mean Sophie going for long hand walks out on the trails, around the farm property, entering in-hand trail classes and other fun competitions.... really getting to know her horse and building an excellent foundation with him while a qualified trainer coaches her through conditioning him, teaching her how to watch his movement and the basics of equine biomechanics.
@C Doxie I didn't know she had been to a clinic! Thanks for the additional info, I can see it from a different perspective now. (I honestly don't watch their content much, and was just making a statement based on occasional observation and patterns I've noticed over time. ) I could be wrong about Sophie. Horses could become her life-long hobby.
I did recently hear Laura say that the girls are good riders because they always get ribbons at local shows. I'm not knocking local schooling shows. They are excellent experience and perfect for beginners and those that don't want to ride the circuit for points or get tangled up with all the nonsense and sour personalities that accompany rated shows. Not everyone has to have goals of Maclay, medal finals, WEF, Devon, HITS.... And most can't afford those (I certainly couldn't. I catch-rode ponies and horses when the opportunities presented themselves, groomed, hung around barns, was a stable hand from ages 8 to 21, soaking up anything from hunters to cutters....) I love local schooling shows But.... local shows are largely just exhibitions and not a good way to truly judge the level of riders. Just because someone gets a ribbon in a local backyard show, does not mean they are experienced, capable riders. It's fine even if an equestrian **never** wants to compete.... but they should always want to be better... for their horse. There is so much nuance and skill and soft understanding that goes into riding well. I don't even care if someone comes home from their short stirrup class with a big honkin' trophy... there's still room for improvement both on and off the horse.
Laura literally said Denver or Denvor ( I don’t know how to spell it) was the perfect horse for Sophie. He’s a big draft/Cob build and he’s a super experienced school master but continued to get a 5 years old thoroughbred for her. She’s delusional
i hope they know what a green horse is. “hE iS NoT GreEn HE iS BaY” honestly that kid is gonna get so hurt. Some race horses have trauma, and other things etc. i hope they don’t buy Chance, he needs a different rider and a WAY more experienced rider. The lesson instructor- omg they need to be re-taught
The fact that she’s a beginner and is on such a young horse is crazy to me. I’ve been doing lessons for five years and the youngest I’ve been in was 9-10.
It's just so sad that they keep doing this to Sophie, putting her in danger and using her to make money (they do this to Gabby too but not as badly I feel) let's hope with all that money they make it's enough to pay for both kids therapy when they're adults because both of them are seriously going to need it from the trauma their parents are putting them through.
@Alisha L i don’t think Laura makes a huge amount of money on UA-cam. I think Laura is a Prima Donna who has to be the center of attention at all times. Have you noticed that she talks incessantly and monopolizes every video? She is the perfect example of a “know it all” type. Laura is always right and you can’t tell her anything.
@@MaryBethMcCoy I so agree with you. It is not the families horse journey, it's the "Laura Show". I think she has this dream of being a celebrity. When she says she has friends.... I wonder for how long. After 15 minutes with Laura she would get on my nerves, she talks so much.
@@sharontalaga5924 I absolutely agree! I have always thought motormouth Laura started the channel because she likes to hear herself talk. The kids and Sam just provide the backdrop. It is really all about Laura.
I fucking love you Raleigh. You are unapologetically yourself and have been an amazing voice for the animals that can’t stand up for themselves. Thank you for everything you do. I’ve been a fan since 2016🥰
She is going to get her daughter seriously hurt. Sophie is continuously being set up for failure. I cant help but think that Laura is living vicariously through her kids and that shit is vile.
I can’t help feeling that Gabbie will be out of there as soon as she reaches college age (that’s if Laura decides she can go of course). She just doesn’t look very happy being filmed everyday. She’s at that awkward teen age and I can imagine she hates having a camera in her face every single day. As for Sophie, I just hope she’s being well schooled and prepared for life in the real world. She is very sheltered by Laura and based on Laura’s grammar and spelling alone she is not very high on the academic scale.
@@queenofhearts6127 And based on the amount of time that their one and only school teacher must be spending in combat with viewers, makes me wonder if proper education doesn't take top priority in their lives.
@@annieridesagain3262 I wouldn't have traded any teacher I had to being homeschooled by Laura.......who would???? Let's face it I believe Laura's kids would be a lot different had they gone to regular school. Gabby seems to be an introvert and Sophie no confidence. That is my opinion only.
I have seen a lot of OTTB come out of learned helpless and "act out" until they learn to trust again with the right person, I wish her parents would do better.
I wish I could save all of their horses. I would give them a much better life and build up on groundwork as well as make it a learning experience for me. And if I had a UA-cam channel on them, it wouldn’t be for clickbait. It would be to capture memories and save my progress as a rider so I can look back later on, months-even years later, and see how much I have improved.
My first horse was an 18yr old boy who’d been around the block. He taught me everything I know and was a great horse to learn from. Older horses are great for beginners, and help create great riders💕
My grandfather would drop off quarter horses "off the track" for me to train to trail when I was an experienced rider. Off the track can be very unpredictable and need lots of guidance to develop their own confidence and skills for a successful transition.
Gives me so much anxiety too!!! Wow the mother's attitude hurts my brain and makes me cringe. I feel terrible for her daughters and the horses. (Not to mention the parent's ungraceful response to your critique makes me die a little inside) 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Thank you for these videos Rally, you keep us sane! Much love!!!
Sophie’s mom reminds me of my friends mom. Her mom bought her a horse because her MOM wanted to get her daughter into horse riding because she didn’t get to experience it when she was younger.
“Raced just last year” enough for me. I’ve seen so many get greenies and the same situation, they end up not very great and by the 3 year mark of owning they realize it was a bad idea on their part in the beginning.
What is worse about the whole situation with Chance is that Laura keeps changing the story. It wouldn't be so bad if she stuck to the same facts and told the truth.
I just checked DayByDay’s channel, and it looks like they are keeping the horse, they also have a relatively new video that’s based around the horse bolting, I just hope that they can come to their senses and get Sofie the right training, and the right horse for her
The parents should care more about Sophie and her safety. Mixing a green horse with a beginner rider like Sophie is not going to end well at all. I’ve seen so many people do it in my sport which is eventing, and the horse is almost always sold and the kid gets hurt and quits riding. Also I understand why a lot of people don’t like showing. I show my horses but I do it just for fun with my horse and always do my best make sure that they’re happy and comfortable in competition. They should not be showing this horse until he gets more experience and training and until Sophie becomes more experienced. She needs a schoolmaster to keep her safe, not a green OTTB. I made the same mistake they’re making when I first got into riding and had a bad trainer that didn’t know what they were doing. I have awesome trainers now though and have been able to improve with training horses. From personal experience and observation, this will not end well and Sophie might get seriously hurt. I hope the best for Sophie and hope her parents will realize their mistakes.
Honestly Daybyday is upsetting me so much, I’m currently thinking of making a yt channel to react to them as well and my reaction wouldn’t have been anywhere near as nice and „calm“ as Raleigh‘s was js
I'm glad they got rid of finn, that poor horse. Owning a horse is a priority for them which shouldn't be. They should get Sophie some riding lessons to improve and ground lessons as well. Then maybe get her a older horse that's more experienced.
@@lilahasnoeqq or just give Soph a break. Shes lovely and seems to just love any animal. Maybe shes better off just caring for her other pets. Laura puts Soph on the spot all the time and also keeps saying Gabby helps her. Leave the poor girl to learn for herself. She's just too sweet
@@pamblackwell6405 Sophie deserves everything gabby gets and deserves to choose what she wants, im assuming she wanted the horse but the QnA with chance looked kinda staged from lindas answers
When I was riding at uni (in Eq Society) I fell during a jumping lesson. I was not an inexperienced rider at the time and the horse was similar to how they’re describing him. Very laidback/“lazy”. We were both caught off guard by a cat fight which led to a very scary situation for me. I can see this happening to Sophie as the race horse doesn’t disappear when they are “retired”. I also had another situation when I was very new to riding but the most “experienced” one in the group. The horse was very green and my instructor never should have put me on that horse.
I can’t wait for this! hopefully this will push them like it did with Finn, they seriously need to stop doing things like this. Sophie NEEDS an older schoolmaster, she’s had nothing but green horses and it’s gotten her nowhere. I really hope seeing this video will have them give Chance up like when they sold Finn 🤞🏻
@@Wouldntyouliketoknow926 Raleigh making a video about Finn is what caused them to sell him even though before that they were adamant they were never going to, I’m hoping for the same outcome this time. They need constant pressure and badgering to get them to do it but if it means giving Chance hope for a better future then it needs to be done
I don’t understand why she cant ride storm who is a schoolmaster (or was) and is currently used for kids to learn on, he’s 15hh or so, so i’d have thought he’d be alright with her? It just baffles me. Green on green rarely works out even with a decent trainer, their current trainer is not it
@@LH20027 She doesn't like having to put in all the extra effort it takes to get Storm moving. And tbo he's always seemed to not be a weight carrier., and has had some back issues in the past.
When I was 15 I bought a 5 almost 6 year old horse who was THE sweetest horse I have ever known, but oh boy am I incredibly lucky to have had the help of numerous extremely experienced professional trainers and yard owners otherwise it would have been a disaster. I had him for 4 years and we achieved a lot together but it absolutely wouldn't have worked without heavily involved horse trainers and people who were brutally honest with me when I made a mistake. Worth adding I was already a lot more experienced than Sophie, I'd leased a cob for 3 years before that but I wasn't an advanced rider by any means. Looking back it was one of the greatest experiences of my life but I got off very lucky not to be injured when my inexperience met his inexperience - which it did a LOT
Green on Green makes black and blue. I grew up hearing this. And it's so true. Especially on a young Green race horse. I had a 10 year old of the track thoroughbred and he was spooky and would jig alot. This poor girl.
I took lessons at a barn for about a year in middle school as a complete beginner. They would put me on a different horse each lesson and most of them were thoroughbreds. It was a terrible time, and it got to the point where I was falling off almost every lesson. Eventually, the last fall shattered my elbow and I’ve never rode since. There was only one horse that I ever felt truly comfortable on, and he was older and a different breed. Looking back, I so wish that my barn would’ve used more horses like that to help train new riders, and maybe I would still be riding today.
Sophie needs a horse that can teach her, this horse is only going to need teaching since it’s green broke… It took me years to get my first 9 year old, y-e-a-r-s. I was always stuck with late teens and early twenty’s my first 10 years of riding. And it paid off, it really did. Those horses can teach you the ways before moving on to some project that needs work the rider doesn’t have. It bothers me because Laura says “He’s a once in a lifetime horse.” Yes, maybe… but it’s not accurate, he’s not going to get the job done and set Sophie up for what she needs. I could be wrong, thanks for reading! I do love their channel and enjoy updates but I wish Laura would consider maybe a horse in it’s teens?
i 100% agree. when i was still beginner/intermediate, the most experienced and seasoned horses taught me the most. i leased a grumpy old little POA for 3 years before he passed away, and i owe most of my skills to him. rest in peace, magnum
@@BluePeace2 Hopefully, at least they addressed the fact he’s young and they originally intended to get something completely different (meaning older I guess)
My current horse is a 5yo OTTB. I am an intermediate-advanced rider. My last horse was also a 5yo OTTB, I trained him and he did great but unfortunately passed away due to the ill guidance of my trainer at the time and I really didn’t know better. I was naive and I trusted this person. Your videos and that loss has taught me so much on what is right and wrong in the sport. I lost my horse when I was 17/18. I am currently 24 and have been riding on and off since because it was difficult to get back into the horse world after all that trauma. But with my new horse, I am not inexperienced just out of practice and shape. Therefore I am taking my time with this horse. I haven’t even cantered him yet because I know neither of us are ready for it. My current trainer is everything I could ask for. I plan on focusing on flatwork and groundwork for at least the next year while I get in shape. I don’t think Sophie should be put in these positions because she’s just going to hurt herself. I was advanced when I had my first horse and he still gave me injuries that I continue to suffer from. I loved that horse more than anything in the world. So many feelings. I just hope they eventually do better.
I agree so much with you Raleigh. It really hurts to watch at times knowing what can happen. Love you girl. You have been so nice and good and honest with this family. Pray they take your advice, cause their kid fan base agrees with them.
My friend who is an experienced rider got a new horse around the same age that ended up putting her in the ER, and her horse is super chill too! Look what happened young horses can’t be trusted even if they are chill.
Nearly everyone now is commenting on there videos that they aren’t getting hate. There were nice opinions and recommendations and suggestions that were made to them but then ignored by them, slowly it has built up in frustrated people that are just trying to help but just get mistaken for hate over and over again. The can’t get their head round we are just trying to help them become better horse owners and well as riders otherwise the kids are gonna be in tears and the parents are going to sure Raleigh just for sharing her opinion and trying to help them, they just won’t except. I am a young equestrian who has been riding for 7 years, loaned/leased a pony for 10 months and am looking into buying one next year, and I understand everything you say about them and agree with it! I think that comment was right when it said that Sophie is just in love with the idea of owning a pony. My friend has been riding for 4 years and is an amazing rider and can quite easily get bend and outline with any pony, Day by Day needs to step up their game and start taking this more seriously and literally. Owning horses isn’t a case of you can just throw it away when your done and bored, it’s on-going thing. They really need to take owning horses a little more seriously!
i bought my ottb at 16 after riding for 14 years, she was perfect for the first 5 month. and then a lot of problem started, i havent ridden her properly for almost a year now due to having a lot of issues that we still havent found the sulution to yet, and im not riding her until we find the problem and can fix it
This Honestly breaks my heart, not only as a race horse but Chance is still very young which means he isn't yet experienced for a begginer rider. In my opinion the lesson instructor, omg some-one needs to re-teach him. This is devastating and i really hope daybyday finally do aomething about this as the lack of experience shown (lesson instructor, buying suitable horses etc) is disappointing.
Lord have mercy, I haven’t watched this boy being ridden but from what they’ve said he a very calm thouroughbred. Ok sure I could believe that, the thouroughbred we have now has always been extremely calm, the problem is that this horse will lack the training that a horse for Sophie needs and it is a 5 year old so due to Sophie being so unbalanced on the horse it could cause major back issues down the line for this horse that can’t be changed by regular chirp appointments. They most likely will want to jump this horse which if Sophie hasn’t immensely improved in her jumping from the last I saw of them will just be a train wreck, the horse hasn’t had near enough training to go over jump without a hitch, there will be many over jumps, refuses, and other reactions down the line which from what we’ve seen Sophie really hasn’t been taught and doesn’t have the muscle to handle it properly. Not only will this be bad for Sophie but it could be detrimental for the horse, it’ll only take one bad situation to completely traumatize a horse, which is what good trainers want to avoid at all costs when it comes to green horses, you never want to push them too far, this family has never known where the line for “pushing them too far” is until that lines about twenty feet behind them and I’m afraid it will happen with this horse as well.
they're saying they're giving him training rides and Gabby's been riding him, that is not enough for this green five-year-old, and I 100% agree with you he's just gonna turn into a train wreck like finn did, and they've already put in a thumbnail can chance jump. 🤦🏻♀️, so not other than they're an riding an underweight horse that has no top line no neck muscles no muscles in general but they're also trying to jump him, A GREEN 5 YEAR OLD!!
@@eq.daynicole I’m disappointed but not surprised, this family has no idea how to work with green horses, they only care about jumping and they just disregard the flat work all together thinking the walking, trotting and cantering around is enough warm up, no daybyday that’s not an adequate warm up, you should be working on collecting and extending, many transitions, and plenty of bending, and I’d hope they don’t still jump every time they ride but honestly I would be more shocked if they did change the riding to actually include less jumping, they’re going to completely rush this horses training and one day down the line something will happen and the horse will be blamed.
@@caseyscattle right! chino is getting way over jumped, every ride you see them jumping, yes the show season is coming up but do I think they should be showing every weekend, no, it's not good for the horse Chino is definitely burnt out of showing, and Gabby just rushes him with everything, transitions, new jump heights etc., it's only a matter of time before he goes completely dead lame and won't come back from it, it's kind of alarming when Chino miss stepped over going a pole and became lame, if that doesn't say they haven't put the proper pole work and dressage basic into this horse and the kids, it's very sad And there idea of collection is putting horses into a forced frame behind the vertical etc. , never have I once seen chino actually relax in the trot or the Canter ( trotting on a loose rein, very long and low) is very sad and shows that he is under so much pressure and stress, there's a video of him literally SHAKING before a show, he doesn't deserve that.
@@eq.daynicole that absolute insanity, Chino was an amazing horse who could have done great things had he been taken care of properly, yes he could still have more sensitivity in his feet and legs to cause lameness but it easily could have been avoided if they would just let him relax and limit the amount of jumping he did. I completely agree they haven’t done any proper pole work and dressage training with that horse, he easily could’ve been just fine and him and Gabby would’ve been a better team if they would just do rides completely on the flat more often and actually learn how to do things other than jumping. I used to do hunters but just never found enjoyment in it so I switched to western riding, specifically ranch riding which is pretty much all flat work and there’s really nothing boring about it for the horse or rider as long as you have some variety in the flat training so “being bored” should never even be thought of as an excuse for horse or rider.
I’m about to start a combined veteran assistant course and the second part of the course is about animal welfare and it’s really exciting because it’s really sweet because one of the staff members has really been helpful and rang me to ask me about the best time for me to have their assistance, which I really appreciate because I have adrenal fatigue and Huntington’s disease which sometimes causes me being a bit sleepy 😊
This family really needs to take into consideration the amount of experience their daughter doesn’t have. If they continue to give her horses that are too small or too green she’s just going to continuously fail and fail.
This is actually really tragic. A heartbreak in the making, on video, playing out in real time, for all to see. Poor Sophie, I can’t imagine how painful this will (almost certainly) be for her. I know this, and can empathize, because this happened to me. When I was her age, I was horse CRAZY, but definitely a beginner. My parents had no horse knowledge either, and we’d moved to the middle of nowhere so I could have a horse, but no trainer was ever involved or consulted. Holy crap. I’m already getting emotional thinking back… how this turned out, I’m sure you can guess. Point is, it broke my freaking HEART. Maybe I’ll make a video. I should.🥺 I’ve got SO many horse stories, warning stories really- pretty horrific ones. Jeez, maybe a series is in order. ANYHOW. You are a very smart, kind, and diplomatic horse advocate, and your opinion on this family is 100% spot on. Much respect, and best wishes! - Noëlle in GA
Even from someone who owns and rides a older ottb and has for around 4 to 5 years it definitely isn’t a good choice to let Sophie ride a fresh off the track horse no matter it’s disposition. I’m especially worried that once chance begins to gain weight and get fit he may begin to have much more energy and possibly be hard to handle for Sophie. I can say from experience that when I first got my thoroughbred he was pretty relaxed and laid back rarely every needing lunged and such. Although as I began to work him more and really get him fit he was much more quick on his feet and a bit more difficult to work with. And that’s even for a 19 year old ottb I cant even imagine what that would be like for a 5 year old ottb
Exactly!! My trainer rides a 4 year old because she is very experienced! She has been riding basically all her life and she’s only in her 20s! Like god people get a horse that fits a BEGINNER rider, not a green fresh horse!
Oh my God! I just said the same thing after watching yet another video of poor Sophie falling off of one of her horses! I watched her jump an oxer even though she kept catching Finn in the mouth every time. I watched her mother interfere with her lesson, constantly making comments while the instructor tried to do his job. I kept asking myself why Laura is buying green horses and ponies for an inexperienced and green rider. I'm also marveling over how I've already seen them in 3 different facilities. They seem to move around often. One indoor looked a bit rustic, another was one of those fabric on metal frame arenas and the other was a gorgeous state of the art arena and barn. It makes me wonder why they have moved so often in such a relatively short time. You have pointed out all of the same concerns and observations that I have had after watching too many of their videos. I'm sorry to hear that the family and you have decided to part company. What a shame. Good people with poor judgment who own horses is a recipe for disaster.
Am glad you are doing this video they this had chiropractic done on chance back was out any starting to gain a little bit of weight but you don’t see it when you see him green on green Black and blue he might be calm and laid-back but like I said calm before the storm and then taking him to a horse show at there barn the next one
It’s seen that she set up gabby for success Gabby always seems to get the better horses Sophie get on chance walks around once or twice stands in the arena for a while and then gets off him she doesn’t really ride him at all or is it just not showing it
I learned to ride from a horrible riding facility that would put me on this horse named Rocky. He always bucked and I was the only student with enough experience to “handle” him (aka, fall with grace). I learned quickly how to work with horses that were stressed and/or poorly trained. My very first horse was a OTTB I leased from a friend. This horse was green, but with my previous riding experiences, I didn’t think it was a big deal. Looking back now, almost 10 years later, I’m shocked I didn’t have any major injuries with this horse. She had a massive cribbing problem (PTSD from racing and poor treatment no doubt), had zero ground manners and zero experience with casual riding. I wasn’t a beginner rider when I got her, but in no way was I experienced either. That mare taught me so much, and I loved her to death, but I was oblivious to all the dangerous situations I put myself in. Overall, that horse was such a blessing for me. She had a heart of gold and would always look out for me whenever we rode. But there were a lot of struggles and so many close calls. Thankfully my experience was overall positive, but I agree that OTTBs are not good beginner horses. They need so much love and structure. I know my sweet girl did ❤️
So sad to see that they haven't changed much. I saw a comment on their channel the other day saying that as the horse settles in and gains more weight his personality and "level-headedness" might change. Not to say that he will end up being crazy but definitely something they should consider. With Sophie being so young and inexperienced I don't think an OTTB is the best choice for her. I also have a 5-year-old OTTB and I love him to death but he is very much young and still very green, especially being fresh off the track. I really hope they will start to consider HER safety more and hopefully, they do so before she ends up with a serious injury. Amazing video Raleigh, I know they will see this as "hate but I wish they would take things like this to heart. Many people who comment on their channel really are just trying to help.
Laura is fixated on "he's teaching her how to be confident ". Denver could teach her that. But no it has to be a 5 yr old. I've been riding for 4 yrs (adult rider) and I would never even consider sitting a 5 yr old horse. It's insane. I would be putting myself at risk bc I'm not experienced enough. Daybyday forgets that there is no rush, ppl can ride for as long as they want and take there time to learn!.
@@coffeeandhorses I totally agree! I saw Denver a few days ago and he seemed like such a good fit for Sophie! Laura needs to give Sophie the space and time she needs and let her learn at her own pace. Sophie is still sooo young and has so much time to improve her riding, I think Laura is expecting her to advance to quickly.
I also feel like Laura favors her older daughter’s situation and the way that she is physically. I feel like Laura lives vicariously through her older daughter and you can see it through the thumbnails between each daughter and just the amount that they give and do for the older daughter compared to Sophie when it comes to Horses. Also not letting Sophia truly answer the questions about what she wanted to do with the horse and letting that be Sophia’s answer. She had to interrupt and almost guide her and then finish the answer for her. Sophia clearly said she wanted to do jumpers and I had seen in previous videos that she really enjoyed doing that at a show and the mother says that she doesn’t really want to show but I truly think that she does and the mother is just downplaying what Sophia wants to do. I just wish that they would realize that they need an instructor that is much more highly educated in balance position alignment. Not just saying someone who teaches basics because they need more than just the basics and fundamentals. They have missed so much of that that bad habits have been created and not fixed time and time again and they just keep slightly mentioning the balance and position issues with both kids and then glaze over them or mention them once or twice in a lesson and then that’s it. They need someone who is experienced and educated in the seat and biomechanics and that is passionate about teaching their students these things in every lesson and making sure that anytime something is going wrong or slightly incorrect, that it is addressed and worked on at every moment that some thing is incorrect or going wrong. They need someone that is going to be able to use techniques and exercises to help them adjust and fix things but also teach them why. Not just threaten them with no stirrups or putting a crop under their thumb is to keep their hands correct. That is not enough and this instructor that they have is just not enough for the students and the other ones at the barn for that matter. So many of the riders in their group lessons have the exact same issues and you can see that in their videos of the group lessons. It’s a shame that there aren’t more regulations for being able to teach and being able to teach beginners of all ages especially.
100 percent agree. All the riders that this barn ride with their toes out, elbows in front "zombie arms" and posting on the correct diagonal is an issue. I wish Laura could see that both Brandon and Fiona do not have the skill set. And Sophie is in need of one on one dedicated lesson to her riding position even at a stand still. She is still in a chair position like 6 yrs later.. this should be embarrassing at this point but Sophie is under the impression that she is good at riding. But she won't be until someone deals with her riding position.
Its strange that Laura describes the family as not being very show competitive , when the actual reason that they kept Sophie going with Fin for so long, was for her to do this year's show season on him at Trillium level. And Sam said that he has already bought much more expensive curtains for Champs this year.
As one whos ridden calm, sweet 3-4 year old horses. There is a time, were you'll really notice how inexperienced and young they are. Sophie seems much more confident on Chance then she did Finn but im just worried how itll be once Chance youth starts peeking out...
To me there are two things that make this an unfair situation. He's inexperienced and being ridden upside down and crooked, this won't help both his mental education and his muscle education. He also is simply too narrow for her. He could certainly always be a calm horse but that doesn't change how unfair it is to punish him by putting him in this situation.
@@jrmints80 yeah Took me a few years before my Riding instructor let me on the younger ones. Though i did also get to learn on a experienced horse from the get go and i worked hard from start. She looks confident on Chance but confident wont help the horse with the training. And when the horses act. well like horses. they get the shit too.
yes! While he’s not 4 ive hit a rough patch with an 8 yr old ive been riding who is incredibly well trained in dressage but is very green to being ridden in a lesson program. My trainer decided itd be best if nobody ride him except for her and one other advanced rider for the time being because she doesnt want his training to be undone. while it sucks to admit that im not ready to be a part of his training process, im willing to if it means we both benefit. Its hard to take it slow but unfortunately thats what you sign up for with this sport!
It's good that they addressed the issues that were made clear to them by so many people. The problem the failed to do their homework and just made a hole set if new mistakes.
Another informative video, thanks!. At the rescue where I am involved the owner did NOT allow inexperienced people to adopt, sponsor or lease OTTB horses that were there. Matter of fact, the one's that she thought were experienced enough they also were required to keep the horse at the rescue for at least a year before she would release the horse. This gave the recue owner time to see if it was a good match. Sometimes within that year the owner or the the prospect buyer would decide not to take the horse, or either it worked out great for all.
@@islaandjoey2726, it's ultimately going to be the helmet that fits you best. I really recommend going into a tack store to try on a bunch, and have it fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. For concussion impact minimization, look into MIPS technology.
there is a very green horse that I rode once he was 4 and he came straight from the pasture. He was the sweetest thing and was very patient when I got on, walked around and was overall so good. But then he just snapped and started rearing and almost threw me off. I thankfully got off because I didn’t want to get hurt but this just goes to show that even the sweetest and most patient horses aren’t the best.
It’s so sad.. they are setting her up for failure honestly I have been riding for years and have many lessons but I still consider myself beginner! And I wouldn’t get a ottb that young and just raced last year for a beginner I really hope they realize but I think Sophia is just excited to have a new horse that seems lovely, but she really needs something her level. I had a rough time when I was riding a horse way to inexperienced for me I felt like I want going anywhere in my riding, I think Sophie may feel it at least start to feel that. So I got a new trainer and finally found an amazing one it took years but I’m progressing slowly!!
the comment about the blind leading the blind rings true in my personal experience. our (former) unqualified barn manager advocated for my grandmother to buy me a green horse despite the fact that she was terrible rider and i had only ever taken lessons at camp. it ended with me breaking my nose, bruising three ribs, and lacerating a kidney on three occasions over three years. its ridiculously dangerous and i could have died because of her arrogance and ignorance and taking advantage of my grandmother.
I’ve had to learn the hard way. My first pony, when I was 12 years old, was a 4 year old pony, who I originally didn’t want because she was so young. Rode her twice to try her and ended up falling in love, but took her home and she threw me damn near every ride I had on her. My confidence was destroyed. It wasn’t until I ended up in the hospital, and needing surgery, that my parents and coach decided to start looking at putting me on a new horse. I did a year lease on a 15 year old horse who taught me in much kinder ways. That horse brought me from crying looking at a cross rail to confidently going around a 3 foot hunter course, and gave me the eventing bug. He was the horse who taught me what I needed to know to get my first off the track mare when I sent him back to his owner. Buying a green horse was the most unsafe decision my family made, but they didn’t know any better. Luckily I turned out okay and we came up with a better solution. I just hope the same thing, or worse, doesn’t have to happen to Sophie before they realize they’re heading down the wrong path.
Listen to Raleigh! I was a beginner rider but my (not very good) instructor put me on a younger hot horse and I fell and broke my pelvis. I used to ride the older more experienced horse and nothing ever happened. As soon as i was put on that other horse i had this accident which I still feel the repercussions 1 year later.
What I don’t get is , if she’s at such an “amazing” barn with such an “amazing” trainer why can she lease/loan a school pony to her level is my question 🙈🤣
The problem have with them is the praise Gabby with everything, which really raised her ego, they make it like Gabby is never wrong which in the long run will not be good for Gabby, while with Sophie it’s only her fails and seems like Sophie will never be as good as Gabby. Sophie really needs a horse fit for her that can teach her the basics. An older horse who is broke. I had that. A 19yo learned so much then upgraded to a horse who wasnt as broke. That’s what Sophie needs.
So I was a beginner English rider. Grew up on working western horses, including cattle herding but zero jumping/english exposure. I have a good seat and sitting trot, so my trainer put me on a Thoroughbred only off the racetrack for 3 weeks to see if he could be made into a schooling pony. It kinda backfired because we immediately clicked and I ended up leading him. The reason it backfired was that he liked me and was incredibly responsive, he never refused a jump for to change gait… for me, if he didn’t like the person, he’d develop selective deafness and refuse direction. We were great for each other, but he definitely could only be ridden by someone he liked. One woman was a serious sport woman in multiple disciplines, including riding from the age of three. She couldn’t get my boy to even pick up a trot. He was brat but I loved him.
I definitely got a green horse as my first horse and I think a lot have made that mistake. Mine at least was a gelding that was pretty kind. My friend’s mom legit got an unbroke 2 year old stallion as her first horse and it went pretty terribly to say the least. We sold that green horse and I ended up with a dead broke mare that quickly became my heart horse. She passed in 2010 and I miss her every day.
Oh it’s just so disappointing. Sophie deserves so much better than constantly having green and inexperienced horses. They’re always showing Sophie’s fails in thumbnails and using them for clickbait, and then when Sophie does something really well they use Gaby’s achievements as bait. I just find it so unfair it’s like Sophie’s just on the sidelines and fodder for bait and I really want to see HER journey because she’s conquering so much anxiety sometimes. I hope they do better for her, set her up to succeed rather than to fail.
yes I agree
I 100% agree
yes its like they value gaby more than sophie i would not be surprized if sophe ct them off when she gets older
@@georgia_blueland i think Sophie got into riding because Gabby was riding and had FOMO. A=She never really looks like she loves riding.
@@ninagonzalez5046 i agree i also think that their parent Laura made them get into it cause ive heard her say countles times how they wanted their kids to be around horses
In this situation Sophie isn't a bad kid, she just has no idea what she's doing so it falls on the parents to make the right choices. Sophie needs a good trainer, a 12+yr old horse, tall enough for her, and has had plenty of experience to accommodate a rider who is learning and off-balanced. I was sincerely hoping they would get her an ex-lesson horse or something. She can barley sit in the saddle properly and keep herself balanced right now, so they go out and get her a 5yr race horse??? I'm speechless I really am. Odd comparison but this is no different than a young, first time dog owner getting a malinois instead of say a Lab, not knowing how to train it then coming home to your house torn up and thinking to yourself "where did I go wrong? I love this dog but I just can't control it, maybe I'm just a bad owner". Like no, you're just not ready for that dog, get a more beginner friendly breed
she needs a 12+ yr, 16hh+, smooth, slow, ex-lesson horse with no vices
She’s being taught to become the type of person who can’t handle criticism though.
Exactly! Very well said! Thank you!!
Well said. There’s a reason Gabby’s progression has been so much smoother than Sophie’s and it is essentially rooted in the way she began. With a true kick-along, bombproof, forgiving, laid back and confidence giving little horse.
That foundation makes all the difference.
I suspect they’re trying to buy Sophie a horse that will fulfil her jumper ambition so she doesn’t feel left behind, but there’s no way for her to learn when she’s constantly overhorsed.
@@spellywelly Exactly. There's no harm in leasing a well experienced horse for her to learn on for a year-couple years, then they could think about getting her a younger horse for her to jump. I have a really bad feeling about this horse, sure his nature might be sweet but as an ex race horse he might get over excited and she could hurt herself really bad if she falls, I really really hope she doesn't get hurt
I hope Sophie has friends in her life that tell her there's a difference between hate and constructive criticism, because we all know her parents aren't.
Everybody Day by Day knows agrees with them.
@@vanessaw5409 well I'm assuming you don't know all of their relatives and friends from school.
@@youreinvalid8493 there homeschooled sadly
@@vanessaw5409 that's because Day By Day delete all the people who don't agree with them.
I think Sophie needs a 14-20 year old horse who has done lessons with kids and is spook proof.
And the horse needs to be a giant that can cope with a sack of potatoes flopping around on its back because Sophie clearly has no intentions of working on improving her own physicality in order to improve her seating.
I had the perfect for inexperienced riders. I deer hunted on my farm and could fire a high powered rifle from his back 😮. That's after a ton of working with him. He was bomb proof. I miss you Rocky !!
i want one of those
I honestly feel like Sophie needs a draft cross, more experienced, and kind of a been there done that horse. A new trainer would be helpful also…
-and maybe also have her parents learn how to feed her in a healthy way. Poor thing… it’s not her fault. Her parents need to help her NOW and teach themselves and especially their daughter, healthy and safe habits.
Totally agree with this
@@countchocula5379thx for saying this. I have seen and known many overweight people who eat the average American diet of junk food and have rather large children. I'm not fat-shaming, it's just really sad because they are nice people, and losing weight is hard and their kids don't know any better. My cat is very obese and has trouble losing weight- he always finds it again.
she don't need draft cross... What Sophie need, is old classic type of warmblood, on strong legs, in square body shape... Those horses have steady balance, and classic walk in all speeds... cross breeds are really tricky about this... I talking as a plus-size rider myself i.ibb.co/PWFY0Wj/140987738-10208066423374998-5535605622470629228-n.jpg
@@madmare1814 I see that you are younger and your grammar isn’t the best, I agree with your statement though, draft crosses are usually stocky and sturdy. Which is what she needs.
It's not what Sophie wants. It is what mom never was and wants her daughter to be.
That was my thoughts exactly.
a thin, lithe athlete
The way her mum said “my goals for her” like I can’t tell wether this is what she wants or what her mum wants for her…
I don’t think Sophie can tell either.
I know I'm late to the party, but honestly this. That mom seems like she''s forcing her own interests (?) hobbies (?) onto the kid. Sophie couldn't even answer the first question properly, when asked about what she likes in the horse, but as soon as she stuttered one sentence the mom started yapping. That girl is what, 10? 11? And she's SO underwhelmed by this horse, while the mother is much more excited. She should just get one for herself and learn how to ride and leave that poor girl alone. I feel like she doesn't have much of a choice whether she even wants to be around horses or not, and the parents/mother exploits her for content and kinda forces her to stay into it by flooding her with new horses over and over again.
Laura: “He’s slow and we love that about him.”
Laura 2 minutes later: “He won his race last year!” •_•
Lol!. Laura constantly makes herself sound like a complete fool. It's hard for pathological liars to keep their facts straight.
My thoughts exactly, an OTTB?! In what world…. 😭
literally!! like it was bad enough when she said he was a 5 y/o, but also a racer?! girlll 😭
Have you ever worked with OTTBs? If you work slow with them and don't just hop on there and give her, he might very well be slow. I'm working with thoroughbreds after the track, yes winning horses as well, and even when we canter next to each other they don't want to race anymore. Sweetest souls I've ever met. All they want is you to spend time with you and attention and they are in your pocket.
I do agree they should have an experienced trainer restarting him though. There's a lot to it.
Unfortunatly, Laura (and her husband) seems like someone who is “never ever wrong”. No matter how many straight facts and stats are spit in her direction, she will still continue blindly screaming “the trainer is great cuz he agrees with everything we say”, “the horse is so nice which means he’ll never throw anyone”, “she’ll be fine cuz i say she will be”, “ive ridden some horses so i know everything i need to”. She is the epitome of the stereotype of someone who cover their ears and screams “lahlahlah” because they dont want to listen to anyone else or ever be proven wrong.
That being said, never stop making vids on their ignorance lol. Even if THEY refuse to be helped by it, your vids definitely help many others see things through an alternate lens, and that itself could save someone lots of trouble.
Yeah she’s basically your average person on Twitter. Says the stupidest shit and refuses to listen to anyone else.
Damn straight. I 100% agree and every single time, they act like valid criticism and advice is “hate” because they just can’t admit they’re wrong. No truer words have been spoken
Let’s not forget laura fell f her horse and broke her pelvis? So we really don’t learn.
@@Equestrianluvv Everyone who's comments Laura likes on the channel are comments that agree with her. And most of those are from kids. I said someone was going to get hurt when they had Stella. And I'll say it again, someone is going to get hurt.
@@danarezarch9917 I agree. Green and green makes black and blue
Let's see how calm he is once he gets some proper food in him. I've seen plenty of OTTB get sold to naive your girls at the dressage barn where I worked.
They were all pretty mellow while they were in "racing form", or as we normal people call it, underfed.
Once they got some feed in them and an open arena, they were completely different animals, and often ended up being sold again within a year.
I must add one more thing. Chance's build is not right for Sophie, even when he does gain weight. When Sophie riders other more draft horses, she honestly rides million times better, so i don't know why they got an ottb that are not only known for being more hot blooded but also having more of a narrow build. The situation that Chance and Sophie are put in is not fair for either of them. Blame mostly goes to the trainer, but also to parents which are being ignorant (they already bought Sophie two green horses before, so they should have learnt by now).
Hey sorry I am an equestrian but what’s an Ottb? Sorry I’ve never heard of it in my 5 years of riding c
@@kld7346 an Off the Track ThoroughBred. When they retire from the track, they are usually given 3-6 months to just be a horse….eat, sleep, socialize with other horses. Basically just chill. Then they go thru a retraining period where they learn how to walk nicely on a lead, stand nicely for grooming and shoeing, and then trained to walk, trot, and canter both directions, first on a lunge line and then with a rider. They learn the proper aides. This process takes at least a year. Laura says Chance has done all this, but he hasn’t even been off the track one year yet!! Most OTTB retraining facilities in the US would not sell a horse to an 11yr old girl who is a beginner rider. Actually, they wouldn’t sell Chance the way he is now, so skinny and lacing in muscles. Plus he is cow hocked in the back, and toes out on the right front. Nobody should be riding him..
Yesss girl!!!
@@songbirds3712 ahhhh tyyy
Should have gotten her a draft horse thoroughbred cross....
I've seen this happen before. Green mom got her green daughter a 5 year old OTTB as her first horse. We all told her mom it was a bad idea. He was actually a decent horse but racing had ruined him. After a year and thousands in vet bills, he had to be euthenized. Mom had great intentions but simply wasn't educated.
I've owned horses for 50 years and Raleigh, you couldn't be more correct. Your honesty and experience should not fall on deaf ears. " Off the track" horses are adopted all the time out of emotion to find them a home. Emotion should not be the motivation to adopt or purchase any horse without many more considerations which you have so well stated. This story is way too prevalent and usually ends up in a bad situation. Green on green, makes for black and blue. Just ask any orthopedic surgeon, how many horse accidents wind up in surgery.
i really love how u said that
It happened to me!
I LEARNED
Yes Marlene,you are absolutely spot on with your comment. I have been involved in the horse industry for many decades, as well. I have owned two OTTB former Race horses, and rehomed them after many years of riding and showing, as well as raising and starting my own colts. More experienced horse people need to call out the disingenuous 'players' and remind them that people can be injured, or even lose their lives in accidents involving horses. Responsible horse ownership is paramount. Matching riders to horses that best suit their level of ability, is crucial.
Green on green makes black and blue is my mantra that I commented just five minutes ago before reading your comment. Suffice it to say, I agree with you.
i dont think i would ever buy an ottb if i got to train horses in the future maybe i would train one for someone but there js so much
I honestly think the worst thing to do is putting green on green. The GASP I let out when they said Chance's 5 is ungodly. I'd give Sophie free riding lessons for free if I could, just to give her an idea of what a good lesson should look and feel like. Wish her the best
I like when teachers give the first lesson for free so the student can get the feel for the barn and stuff. My neighbor gives lessons and she gave me one for free just to get the feel of things. Needless to say, I’m going back. :)
One day, when this horse bolts(and we all know he will), Sophie will scream, yank on his mouth and eventually end up on the ground. She will then do the same thing she did to Finn. She will not want to ride him and pass on her anxiety to Chance and the cycle will begin. The horse was supposed to be 17.1 and is a full hand shorter. what else are the withholding?
That’s exactly what’s going to happen
Chance is 16.2 /16.3 hands. He needs weight but being off the track he still in racing weight. Once he starts gaining weight his attitude is going to change. I had a TB and once I started to feed him he got hot tempered.
@@mediceventer I've seen that exact thing several times at the rescue I volunteer at. The opposite with my Arab cross, who was overweight. She got hotter as she got fitter.
@@mediceventer this is true!! I’ve seen an ottb and it was used at my old lesson barn and they would put the little little kids on it like 4 years old or something it still needed some weight but it was great with kids. Until it got weight on.. it completely changed.. and no one could ride him.
agreed. beginner riders need to either learn properly how to use their reins, or ride a horse that doesn't mind his mouth being messed with. i can guarantee most of these inexperienced horses will not tolerate being yanked in the mouth.
I also feel like Gabby is their absolute favourite and just tear Sophie down.
It's so sad. But all Laura keeps harping on is that he's calm, well great, that doesn't address his lack of experience, the lack of correct muscling despite the "almost a year of training" and his narrow build. It's not about being skinny, it's his bone structure.
The few bits we see of him being lunged and ridden show a horse being worked incorrectly to develop the muscles needed. This was a terrible choice and irresponsible on all parties.
Sophie often rides a nice thick lesson horse that seems like a confidence builder. On another note: I think Laura is a very impulsive person who loves to spend money and bases horse-buying decisions on how sweet a horse's personality "seems." As if that's the only thing that matters. They are always looking for new farms to buy, new horses to buy, new trucks, trailers, etc. Very scattered and disorganized. Laura also reminds me of a stage mom but the equestrian-ish version.
@@sdlboston2947 I Completely agree with you, but will also add that Laura bases her horse buying decisions on their color and whether or not she dreams about them.
@@MaryBethMcCoy LOL!!
I worked with a 7 year old that had a lot of not new rider friendly habits due to previous training and I cannot imagine her trying to ride him much less the one she has now
@@sdlboston2947 I couldn't have said it better.
When I was Sophie's age, I had been riding for about a year and was a little fearful. As a beginner rider, I would have been terrified if my instructor made me ride a horse like this. I saw the barn owner's daughter (who was a great rider and very experienced) riding her OTTB, and that horse was crazy. It was obvious to me that he needed a lot of training and an experienced rider. I was grateful for the nice, quiet horses I started out with. I feel that Sophie's mom may mean well, but she may be contributing to fearfulness in her daughter that will ruin her enjoyment of riding as a lifelong sport. JMO
Yes, for sure, when I was a beginner I didn’t want a rough and ready horse that Is crazy; I’m perfectly fine even now with the calm slow horse, lol
They constantly exploit their children for money and it upsets me so much because Sophie needs a horse that’ll look after her and learn in private without broadcasting everything to the internet. I couldn’t imagine how I would cope if my parents filmed every fault I made whilst riding and broadcasted it to the internet especially knowing how toxic this community can be.
Quite literally getting a OTTB is like getting a unstarted horse, a trainer will need to go through the whole starting process again, lay down a new foundation, set the basics. This scares me so much, they just dont listen!
It's often worse than getting an unstarted horse, as they will most likely have bad habits already that are difficult to get rid of, not to mention the health issues OTTBs often come with due to being started wayyyy too young
@@jayATUKIt’s far worse than that.
A racehorse is physically built due to the way races are designed (especially on all racetracks horses run one way), they don’t change leads and the horses develop a lot of muscles on one side and rarely use the other lead.
A lot of trainers have to retrain and develop the other lead because the horse is so unbalanced on their other weak lead.
This whole thing is giving me deja vu. There was a trainer and student at my barn, and the trainer sold her green horse to her student. Guess what? The girl ended up with multiple broken bones. I know what can happen and I don’t want that to happen to Sophie. It’s irresponsible.
i am speechless btw is she alright?
@@tumann_ yep, she ended up healing. We used to be friends, actually. We worked the same shift at the barn every night. I’m not sure where she rides now (if she still does).
@@blanc.and.noir. that's great news!
The horse is calm right now because he is underweight. He’s in a slim physic RN because he’s FRESH off the track but as soon as he gains weight his personality will likely change drastically and will end with disaster
this happened to my horse and she’s not even fresh off the track. re started her last summer and she was chill and now that she’s fit it’s a whole new thing 😂 so yeah they’re headed for disaster
A few years ago Laura broke her pelvis when she fell off Stella because Stella was not an appropriate horse for her or Sophie. That is a HUGE, traumatic injury that should have been a wake up call for them about safety, but clearly it wasn't.
Totally understand this comment. Like this new horse is green and fresh and something really bad could happen to Sophie. Like if a 17.1 hand horse throws a smaller girl like her she could get seriously hurt
Laura is terrified to ride not sure why she even got penny.
@Molly several months ago on another UA-cam channel it was examined in great depth and Laura did not have 7 breaks to her pelvis as she claimed on her channel. Again she lied. If you want me to go into detail on this I can or you can take my word. I have absolutely nothing to gain by saying any of this. If you are going to lie about things then expect to be called out and that is what I have done and as a medical student I proved it.
@@lizzybowers1888 I believe she broke it in two spots. What am I lying about?
@Molly it was Laura herself who said she had 7 breaks not me. If you like I can direct you to the actual video since you think I'm such a liar. Also in some article Laura stated she shattered both pelvis', want that as well. What are you upset your idol is a liar?
This is so, so sad. But you were so sweet and gentle with how you stated your feelings. Which I think are everyone's thoughts exactly.
my cousin, who i'd say is an intermediate-advanced rider and had her own horse for 10+ years, adopted a young OTTB thinking she had enough experience to handle him. He nearly killed her. She was very fortunate she survived.
“So they got rid of Fin, I’m so happy for Fin he finally got a new home.” The shade 😂🤣😂🤣😂
This horse is an Ottb! Classic under muscle development, hollow, and under fed from racing they keep them extra light. My ottb looked just like this, and acted calm just like his until he got proper food in him and got more fit. Turned into a basket case. And he was 15 and 10 years off the track! Ottb are under developed and hollow going, this is a recipe for back issues and pain and anxiety. They are also notoriously stiff on the right side and have trouble bending in that direction and right lead pick up. I was 12 when I got him and the only thing that saved us was my dedication and excellent trainer who helped teach me to develop his muscles and loosen him up with classical dressage foundation training like seen on ArttoRide channel, who call starts with in hand work and lunging. This horse should be ridden very lightly until his top line gets developed. Those methods are basically what HAS to be done in order to get these horses using their bodies correctly by getting them strong and relaxed enough to do so, and not just forcing them in frames with tricky riding or worse rollkur methods that we even see in western world. It’s every horse owners responsibility to make sure their horse has a top line and know how to develop it and keep it that way so he can optimally carry a rider and move his body. Link could probably go for years more and change his attitude about being ridden if his top line got developed better, when I see him in videos I also see that he is not working over his back well. Some horses manifest symptoms by being lazy, others like my ottb he was high anxiety.
Omg so true. So many OTTBs are purchased are skinny, calm, “more woah than go” types. I love OTTBs but am the first to say they generally don’t make good beginning or novice horses until they are significantly retrained at least. If you buy a skinny under developed TB, you have no idea what their personality will actually be in good condition.
You know what they say… green and green makes black and blue
Right!! My very first lease horse happened to be an OTTB (my trainer's uncle works on a track so she gets his retired horses) and he was about 16-17 and I rode him into his 20s. He had just recently completely calmed down, as in didn't pull any speed demons anymore.
He is extremely large boned for a thoroughbred, and packs on muscle and weight. He was always known as the pet at the track because of his demeanor, but had those energy spurts when younger.
When I learned on him, he was incredibly safe because he was my trainer's only horse at the time, and so so honest. Have never seen another horse as honest as him. He is as bomb proof as they come and would canter for days. He would get very heavy on the forehand and show a lack of balance, but my trainer knew him from inside to out and knew which riders could work with his riding style. Although it took 6 months to canter courses with him (because I couldn't stop him at the canter due to my inexperience and his tendency to hang onto the bit) he was incredibly safe and the best to learn on.
He took me from learning how to post the trot to 2'9 double clears! but you see, he had done all of this before, and my trainer was VERY careful with our pace in progressing.
Mentioning all of the above puts into perspective this situation. At this point in time, Sophie needs a horse she can, as everyone is stating, learn on. A horse she can make mistakes on that will not affect the horse. That is just not the case here, I am curious to see how this progresses.
thanks so much for reading!! his name was Winnie, and I still see him almost everyday :) currently with a 14 yr old ottb Buck who came to me as a free lease problem horse but has now come with me to just about every show my last years of high school getting me the most ribbons❤️❤️ i just love these horses.
Hey! I am polish rider and i don't know what Ottb is. Can you explain it to me?
@@martynaszott9285 it stands for off the track thoroughbred. An ex-racehorse.
@@martynaszott9285 “off track Thoroughbred”
I have learned that it is difficult to share guidance and suggestions with people in the horse industry, who DO NOT want to listen.
I’m so excited to watch and day by day needs to get their horses trained properly. They always show Sophie’s fails but Gaby usually is “super experienced” to the point where they make people think that Gaby doesn’t really fail too often
Part of good horsemanship is continuing to learn and train. No child should be on a green broke horse. Ever!
A 5 year old of the track horse knows how to do one thing.
Run, run, run really fast.
They are only trained for running on the track.
Nothing else.
They will be sorry if they take this horse out for a trail ride, because it will bolt since that's the only thing he has learned how to do really well.
I think Gabby is more invested in horses than the rest of the family. She would probably take every opportunity to ride and take lessons, go to clinics, workshops, watches videos to improve and actually applies corrections to herself.
I'm not sure if Sophie is going to be a lifetime horse owner. And that's not a dig. It's perfectly okay because the horse crazy phase is super common. Some kids take lessons and show all throughout their school careers, then slowly lose interest and phase it out of their lives.
I feel bad for Sophie though, I see myself at that age. Heavier than most other riders in my age group, behind on skills, with no one properly guiding me toward improvement. Or providing constructive criticism that would help me gain better balance and strength so I could be better for my horse.
I think Laura speaks for other people most of the time in these vlogs and we don't get to hear Sophie's actual true thoughts. It aggravates me. She interrupts and talks over them and infuses her own opinion in the middle of their sentences.
I actually really would have liked to see Sophie lease Denver for the summer. I almost guarantee improvements would be clearly visible by the end of the season.
Riding green horses while being inexperienced and unbalanced means you end up riding defensively. It throws the horse off, is uncomfortable, and can make for really unenjoyable rides for both human and equine.
Chance needs a full conditioning program, learning how to carry himself and building proper muscle... And Sophie does too. (I don't mean weight loss... I mean conditioning. She doesn't have to lose a single ounce to be conditioned and have good balance. She just needs to know how to use her body... just like Chance. She shouldn't be riding him til both those things happen. Everyone, especially kids, should learn how to be happy just having a relationship with their horse from the ground. Anything else is extra. Like, I mean Sophie going for long hand walks out on the trails, around the farm property, entering in-hand trail classes and other fun competitions.... really getting to know her horse and building an excellent foundation with him while a qualified trainer coaches her through conditioning him, teaching her how to watch his movement and the basics of equine biomechanics.
@C Doxie I didn't know she had been to a clinic! Thanks for the additional info, I can see it from a different perspective now. (I honestly don't watch their content much, and was just making a statement based on occasional observation and patterns I've noticed over time. )
I could be wrong about Sophie. Horses could become her life-long hobby.
I did recently hear Laura say that the girls are good riders because they always get ribbons at local shows.
I'm not knocking local schooling shows. They are excellent experience and perfect for beginners and those that don't want to ride the circuit for points or get tangled up with all the nonsense and sour personalities that accompany rated shows. Not everyone has to have goals of Maclay, medal finals, WEF, Devon, HITS.... And most can't afford those (I certainly couldn't. I catch-rode ponies and horses when the opportunities presented themselves, groomed, hung around barns, was a stable hand from ages 8 to 21, soaking up anything from hunters to cutters....)
I love local schooling shows
But.... local shows are largely just exhibitions and not a good way to truly judge the level of riders. Just because someone gets a ribbon in a local backyard show, does not mean they are experienced, capable riders.
It's fine even if an equestrian **never** wants to compete.... but they should always want to be better... for their horse. There is so much nuance and skill and soft understanding that goes into riding well. I don't even care if someone comes home from their short stirrup class with a big honkin' trophy... there's still room for improvement both on and off the horse.
the audience cares more about sophie than the mom does lol
Underrated comment! Lol
That's just a terrible thing to say.
Laura literally said Denver or Denvor ( I don’t know how to spell it) was the perfect horse for Sophie. He’s a big draft/Cob build and he’s a super experienced school master but continued to get a 5 years old thoroughbred for her. She’s delusional
Because they are convinced that over 15 is ‘too old’
They tried to buy him but the owner didn’t want to sell
@@laurablair6110 I never heard that. I only heard Laura say they would buy him if he were not so old. 🤷🏼♀️
@@laurablair6110 I heard that she said he wasn’t for sale
Sophie does cross rails. I don't understand why they think she needs a young horse. I do 2'6-2'9 on a 22 year old mare.
Laura is like correcting her answers. "Well my goal for them is" "Well I was drawn to this horse"
i hope they know what a green horse is. “hE iS NoT GreEn HE iS BaY” honestly that kid is gonna get so hurt. Some race horses have trauma, and other things etc. i hope they don’t buy Chance, he needs a different rider and a WAY more experienced rider. The lesson instructor- omg they need to be re-taught
Um he’s a. Chestnut
He's a chestnut lol, and I'm decently sure they did buy him or is he on loan?
I think you need to be re-taught on your colours
@@emmaward8248 You realize that they’re making fun of day by day, right? 😂
The fact that she’s a beginner and is on such a young horse is crazy to me. I’ve been doing lessons for five years and the youngest I’ve been in was 9-10.
The youngest horse I've been on is 8/9 and that's young enough for me
It's just so sad that they keep doing this to Sophie, putting her in danger and using her to make money (they do this to Gabby too but not as badly I feel) let's hope with all that money they make it's enough to pay for both kids therapy when they're adults because both of them are seriously going to need it from the trauma their parents are putting them through.
@Alisha L i don’t think Laura makes a huge amount of money on UA-cam. I think Laura is a Prima Donna who has to be the center of attention at all times. Have you noticed that she talks incessantly and monopolizes every video? She is the perfect example of a “know it all” type. Laura is always right and you can’t tell her anything.
@@MaryBethMcCoy I so agree with you. It is not the families horse journey, it's the "Laura Show". I think she has this dream of being a celebrity. When she says she has friends....
I wonder for how long. After 15 minutes with Laura she would get on my nerves, she talks so much.
@@sharontalaga5924 I absolutely agree! I have always thought motormouth Laura started the channel because she likes to hear herself talk. The kids and Sam just provide the backdrop. It is really all about Laura.
Thank you for making this video. Sophie deserves so much better than this to improve as a rider. I hope someday her parents will understand this...
This is just absolutely obnoxious. Just get your daughters a horse that they can handle so that they can progress!
I fucking love you Raleigh. You are unapologetically yourself and have been an amazing voice for the animals that can’t stand up for themselves. Thank you for everything you do. I’ve been a fan since 2016🥰
She is going to get her daughter seriously hurt. Sophie is continuously being set up for failure. I cant help but think that Laura is living vicariously through her kids and that shit is vile.
I can’t help feeling that Gabbie will be out of there as soon as she reaches college age (that’s if Laura decides she can go of course).
She just doesn’t look very happy being filmed everyday. She’s at that awkward teen age and I can imagine she hates having a camera in her face every single day.
As for Sophie, I just hope she’s being well schooled and prepared for life in the real world.
She is very sheltered by Laura and based on Laura’s grammar and spelling alone she is not very high on the academic scale.
@@queenofhearts6127 oh, I have no doubt she will out of there. Laura gives me the creeps.
@@queenofhearts6127 And based on the amount of time that their one and only school teacher must be spending in combat with viewers, makes me wonder if proper education doesn't take top priority in their lives.
@@annieridesagain3262 I wouldn't have traded any teacher I had to being homeschooled by Laura.......who would???? Let's face it I believe Laura's kids would be a lot different had they gone to regular school. Gabby seems to be an introvert and Sophie no confidence. That is my opinion only.
I have seen a lot of OTTB come out of learned helpless and "act out" until they learn to trust again with the right person, I wish her parents would do better.
I wish I could save all of their horses. I would give them a much better life and build up on groundwork as well as make it a learning experience for me. And if I had a UA-cam channel on them, it wouldn’t be for clickbait. It would be to capture memories and save my progress as a rider so I can look back later on, months-even years later, and see how much I have improved.
My first horse was an 18yr old boy who’d been around the block. He taught me everything I know and was a great horse to learn from. Older horses are great for beginners, and help create great riders💕
My grandfather would drop off quarter horses "off the track" for me to train to trail when I was an experienced rider. Off the track can be very unpredictable and need lots of guidance to develop their own confidence and skills for a successful transition.
Gives me so much anxiety too!!! Wow the mother's attitude hurts my brain and makes me cringe. I feel terrible for her daughters and the horses. (Not to mention the parent's ungraceful response to your critique makes me die a little inside)
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Thank you for these videos Rally, you keep us sane!
Much love!!!
Sophie’s mom reminds me of my friends mom. Her mom bought her a horse because her MOM wanted to get her daughter into horse riding because she didn’t get to experience it when she was younger.
Honestly those type of people shouldn’t have kids
“Raced just last year” enough for me. I’ve seen so many get greenies and the same situation, they end up not very great and by the 3 year mark of owning they realize it was a bad idea on their part in the beginning.
What is worse about the whole situation with Chance is that Laura keeps changing the story. It wouldn't be so bad if she stuck to the same facts and told the truth.
I just checked DayByDay’s channel, and it looks like they are keeping the horse, they also have a relatively new video that’s based around the horse bolting, I just hope that they can come to their senses and get Sofie the right training, and the right horse for her
The parents should care more about Sophie and her safety. Mixing a green horse with a beginner rider like Sophie is not going to end well at all. I’ve seen so many people do it in my sport which is eventing, and the horse is almost always sold and the kid gets hurt and quits riding. Also I understand why a lot of people don’t like showing. I show my horses but I do it just for fun with my horse and always do my best make sure that they’re happy and comfortable in competition. They should not be showing this horse until he gets more experience and training and until Sophie becomes more experienced. She needs a schoolmaster to keep her safe, not a green OTTB. I made the same mistake they’re making when I first got into riding and had a bad trainer that didn’t know what they were doing. I have awesome trainers now though and have been able to improve with training horses. From personal experience and observation, this will not end well and Sophie might get seriously hurt. I hope the best for Sophie and hope her parents will realize their mistakes.
Honestly Daybyday is upsetting me so much, I’m currently thinking of making a yt channel to react to them as well and my reaction wouldn’t have been anywhere near as nice and „calm“ as Raleigh‘s was js
I am excited to watch this haha, Day by day is just getting worse and worse, it needs to be sorted out tbh.
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yeah fr
I'm glad they got rid of finn, that poor horse. Owning a horse is a priority for them which shouldn't be. They should get Sophie some riding lessons to improve and ground lessons as well. Then maybe get her a older horse that's more experienced.
@@lilahasnoeqq or just give Soph a break. Shes lovely and seems to just love any animal. Maybe shes better off just caring for her other pets. Laura puts Soph on the spot all the time and also keeps saying Gabby helps her. Leave the poor girl to learn for herself. She's just too sweet
@@pamblackwell6405 Sophie deserves everything gabby gets and deserves to choose what she wants, im assuming she wanted the horse but the QnA with chance looked kinda staged from lindas answers
When I was riding at uni (in Eq Society) I fell during a jumping lesson. I was not an inexperienced rider at the time and the horse was similar to how they’re describing him. Very laidback/“lazy”. We were both caught off guard by a cat fight which led to a very scary situation for me. I can see this happening to Sophie as the race horse doesn’t disappear when they are “retired”. I also had another situation when I was very new to riding but the most “experienced” one in the group. The horse was very green and my instructor never should have put me on that horse.
I can’t wait for this! hopefully this will push them like it did with Finn, they seriously need to stop doing things like this. Sophie NEEDS an older schoolmaster, she’s had nothing but green horses and it’s gotten her nowhere. I really hope seeing this video will have them give Chance up like when they sold Finn 🤞🏻
They won't. They are to WT and proud to admit they have no knowledge of what they are doing.
@@Wouldntyouliketoknow926 Raleigh making a video about Finn is what caused them to sell him even though before that they were adamant they were never going to, I’m hoping for the same outcome this time. They need constant pressure and badgering to get them to do it but if it means giving Chance hope for a better future then it needs to be done
@@mysticcreations-e5l They won't sell him until they destoyed him and need the money to get a new horse that don't fit them.
I don’t understand why she cant ride storm who is a schoolmaster (or was) and is currently used for kids to learn on, he’s 15hh or so, so i’d have thought he’d be alright with her? It just baffles me. Green on green rarely works out even with a decent trainer, their current trainer is not it
@@LH20027 She doesn't like having to put in all the extra effort it takes to get Storm moving. And tbo he's always seemed to not be a weight carrier., and has had some back issues in the past.
When I was 15 I bought a 5 almost 6 year old horse who was THE sweetest horse I have ever known, but oh boy am I incredibly lucky to have had the help of numerous extremely experienced professional trainers and yard owners otherwise it would have been a disaster. I had him for 4 years and we achieved a lot together but it absolutely wouldn't have worked without heavily involved horse trainers and people who were brutally honest with me when I made a mistake. Worth adding I was already a lot more experienced than Sophie, I'd leased a cob for 3 years before that but I wasn't an advanced rider by any means. Looking back it was one of the greatest experiences of my life but I got off very lucky not to be injured when my inexperience met his inexperience - which it did a LOT
“His storm like mentality”
I seem to recall a video of storm attacking all of the mares lol 😂
And many many videos where they call Storm “crazy”
Green on Green makes black and blue. I grew up hearing this. And it's so true. Especially on a young Green race horse. I had a 10 year old of the track thoroughbred and he was spooky and would jig alot. This poor girl.
It's terrifying to think what might happen if she falls off this green horse
*when. it is not a matter of if, it is about when.
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she hasn't been trained to prepare for that
@@horselover799 Falling off and being out in danger by their mother is two different things.
She will scream bloody murder fall off and cry then will have anxiety attacks for 6 months every time she rides.
I took lessons at a barn for about a year in middle school as a complete beginner. They would put me on a different horse each lesson and most of them were thoroughbreds. It was a terrible time, and it got to the point where I was falling off almost every lesson. Eventually, the last fall shattered my elbow and I’ve never rode since. There was only one horse that I ever felt truly comfortable on, and he was older and a different breed. Looking back, I so wish that my barn would’ve used more horses like that to help train new riders, and maybe I would still be riding today.
Sophie needs a horse that can teach her, this horse is only going to need teaching since it’s green broke… It took me years to get my first 9 year old, y-e-a-r-s. I was always stuck with late teens and early twenty’s my first 10 years of riding. And it paid off, it really did. Those horses can teach you the ways before moving on to some project that needs work the rider doesn’t have. It bothers me because Laura says “He’s a once in a lifetime horse.” Yes, maybe… but it’s not accurate, he’s not going to get the job done and set Sophie up for what she needs. I could be wrong, thanks for reading! I do love their channel and enjoy updates but I wish Laura would consider maybe a horse in it’s teens?
Hopefully he is a once in a life time. Hopefully they will never get Sophie another underweight, under muscled, green broke OTTB!
i 100% agree. when i was still beginner/intermediate, the most experienced and seasoned horses taught me the most. i leased a grumpy old little POA for 3 years before he passed away, and i owe most of my skills to him. rest in peace, magnum
@@BluePeace2 Hopefully, at least they addressed the fact he’s young and they originally intended to get something completely different (meaning older I guess)
@@schmasay My first horse was a 15 year old POA pony, they are good little starters.
@@BluePeace2 I'm worried laura will buy Sophie a horse that's completely green and expect Sophie to be able to train it
My current horse is a 5yo OTTB. I am an intermediate-advanced rider. My last horse was also a 5yo OTTB, I trained him and he did great but unfortunately passed away due to the ill guidance of my trainer at the time and I really didn’t know better. I was naive and I trusted this person. Your videos and that loss has taught me so much on what is right and wrong in the sport.
I lost my horse when I was 17/18. I am currently 24 and have been riding on and off since because it was difficult to get back into the horse world after all that trauma.
But with my new horse, I am not inexperienced just out of practice and shape. Therefore I am taking my time with this horse. I haven’t even cantered him yet because I know neither of us are ready for it. My current trainer is everything I could ask for.
I plan on focusing on flatwork and groundwork for at least the next year while I get in shape.
I don’t think Sophie should be put in these positions because she’s just going to hurt herself.
I was advanced when I had my first horse and he still gave me injuries that I continue to suffer from.
I loved that horse more than anything in the world. So many feelings. I just hope they eventually do better.
I agree so much with you Raleigh. It really hurts to watch at times knowing what can happen. Love you girl. You have been so nice and good and honest with this family. Pray they take your advice, cause their kid fan base agrees with them.
My friend who is an experienced rider got a new horse around the same age that ended up putting her in the ER, and her horse is super chill too! Look what happened young horses can’t be trusted even if they are chill.
Nearly everyone now is commenting on there videos that they aren’t getting hate. There were nice opinions and recommendations and suggestions that were made to them but then ignored by them, slowly it has built up in frustrated people that are just trying to help but just get mistaken for hate over and over again. The can’t get their head round we are just trying to help them become better horse owners and well as riders otherwise the kids are gonna be in tears and the parents are going to sure Raleigh just for sharing her opinion and trying to help them, they just won’t except. I am a young equestrian who has been riding for 7 years, loaned/leased a pony for 10 months and am looking into buying one next year, and I understand everything you say about them and agree with it! I think that comment was right when it said that Sophie is just in love with the idea of owning a pony. My friend has been riding for 4 years and is an amazing rider and can quite easily get bend and outline with any pony, Day by Day needs to step up their game and start taking this more seriously and literally. Owning horses isn’t a case of you can just throw it away when your done and bored, it’s on-going thing. They really need to take owning horses a little more seriously!
i bought my ottb at 16 after riding for 14 years, she was perfect for the first 5 month. and then a lot of problem started, i havent ridden her properly for almost a year now due to having a lot of issues that we still havent found the sulution to yet, and im not riding her until we find the problem and can fix it
This Honestly breaks my heart, not only as a race horse but Chance is still very young which means he isn't yet experienced for a begginer rider. In my opinion the lesson instructor, omg some-one needs to re-teach him. This is devastating and i really hope daybyday finally do aomething about this as the lack of experience shown (lesson instructor, buying suitable horses etc) is disappointing.
I wish Laura would realize that it is not just Sophie’s safety at risk, but also the horses (or you know, maybe she does realize this).
Lord have mercy, I haven’t watched this boy being ridden but from what they’ve said he a very calm thouroughbred. Ok sure I could believe that, the thouroughbred we have now has always been extremely calm, the problem is that this horse will lack the training that a horse for Sophie needs and it is a 5 year old so due to Sophie being so unbalanced on the horse it could cause major back issues down the line for this horse that can’t be changed by regular chirp appointments. They most likely will want to jump this horse which if Sophie hasn’t immensely improved in her jumping from the last I saw of them will just be a train wreck, the horse hasn’t had near enough training to go over jump without a hitch, there will be many over jumps, refuses, and other reactions down the line which from what we’ve seen Sophie really hasn’t been taught and doesn’t have the muscle to handle it properly. Not only will this be bad for Sophie but it could be detrimental for the horse, it’ll only take one bad situation to completely traumatize a horse, which is what good trainers want to avoid at all costs when it comes to green horses, you never want to push them too far, this family has never known where the line for “pushing them too far” is until that lines about twenty feet behind them and I’m afraid it will happen with this horse as well.
they're saying they're giving him training rides and Gabby's been riding him, that is not enough for this green five-year-old, and I 100% agree with you he's just gonna turn into a train wreck like finn did, and they've already put in a thumbnail can chance jump. 🤦🏻♀️, so not other than they're an riding an underweight horse that has no top line no neck muscles no muscles in general but they're also trying to jump him, A GREEN 5 YEAR OLD!!
@@eq.daynicole I’m disappointed but not surprised, this family has no idea how to work with green horses, they only care about jumping and they just disregard the flat work all together thinking the walking, trotting and cantering around is enough warm up, no daybyday that’s not an adequate warm up, you should be working on collecting and extending, many transitions, and plenty of bending, and I’d hope they don’t still jump every time they ride but honestly I would be more shocked if they did change the riding to actually include less jumping, they’re going to completely rush this horses training and one day down the line something will happen and the horse will be blamed.
@@caseyscattle right! chino is getting way over jumped, every ride you see them jumping, yes the show season is coming up but do I think they should be showing every weekend, no, it's not good for the horse Chino is definitely burnt out of showing, and Gabby just rushes him with everything, transitions, new jump heights etc., it's only a matter of time before he goes completely dead lame and won't come back from it, it's kind of alarming when Chino miss stepped over going a pole and became lame, if that doesn't say they haven't put the proper pole work and dressage basic into this horse and the kids, it's very sad
And there idea of collection is putting horses into a forced frame behind the vertical etc. , never have I once seen chino actually relax in the trot or the Canter ( trotting on a loose rein, very long and low) is very sad and shows that he is under so much pressure and stress, there's a video of him literally SHAKING before a show, he doesn't deserve that.
@@eq.daynicole that absolute insanity, Chino was an amazing horse who could have done great things had he been taken care of properly, yes he could still have more sensitivity in his feet and legs to cause lameness but it easily could have been avoided if they would just let him relax and limit the amount of jumping he did. I completely agree they haven’t done any proper pole work and dressage training with that horse, he easily could’ve been just fine and him and Gabby would’ve been a better team if they would just do rides completely on the flat more often and actually learn how to do things other than jumping. I used to do hunters but just never found enjoyment in it so I switched to western riding, specifically ranch riding which is pretty much all flat work and there’s really nothing boring about it for the horse or rider as long as you have some variety in the flat training so “being bored” should never even be thought of as an excuse for horse or rider.
@@eq.daynicole absolutely agree , both gabbys horse now ride with a gaping mouth I don’t think she is the one to be doing training rides on him
I’m about to start a combined veteran assistant course and the second part of the course is about animal welfare and it’s really exciting because it’s really sweet because one of the staff members has really been helpful and rang me to ask me about the best time for me to have their assistance, which I really appreciate because I have adrenal fatigue and Huntington’s disease which sometimes causes me being a bit sleepy 😊
This family really needs to take into consideration the amount of experience their daughter doesn’t have. If they continue to give her horses that are too small or too green she’s just going to continuously fail and fail.
This is actually really tragic. A heartbreak in the making, on video, playing out in real time, for all to see. Poor Sophie, I can’t imagine how painful this will (almost certainly) be for her. I know this, and can empathize, because this happened to me. When I was her age, I was horse CRAZY, but definitely a beginner. My parents had no horse knowledge either, and we’d moved to the middle of nowhere so I could have a horse, but no trainer was ever involved or consulted. Holy crap. I’m already getting emotional thinking back… how this turned out, I’m sure you can guess. Point is, it broke my freaking HEART. Maybe I’ll make a video. I should.🥺 I’ve got SO many horse stories, warning stories really- pretty horrific ones. Jeez, maybe a series is in order. ANYHOW.
You are a very smart, kind, and diplomatic horse advocate, and your opinion on this family is 100% spot on. Much respect, and best wishes! - Noëlle in GA
Even from someone who owns and rides a older ottb and has for around 4 to 5 years it definitely isn’t a good choice to let Sophie ride a fresh off the track horse no matter it’s disposition. I’m especially worried that once chance begins to gain weight and get fit he may begin to have much more energy and possibly be hard to handle for Sophie. I can say from experience that when I first got my thoroughbred he was pretty relaxed and laid back rarely every needing lunged and such. Although as I began to work him more and really get him fit he was much more quick on his feet and a bit more difficult to work with. And that’s even for a 19 year old ottb I cant even imagine what that would be like for a 5 year old ottb
Exactly!! My trainer rides a 4 year old because she is very experienced! She has been riding basically all her life and she’s only in her 20s! Like god people get a horse that fits a BEGINNER rider, not a green fresh horse!
100% agree. That happened to me.
Oh my God! I just said the same thing after watching yet another video of poor Sophie falling off of one of her horses! I watched her jump an oxer even though she kept catching Finn in the mouth every time. I watched her mother interfere with her lesson, constantly making comments while the instructor tried to do his job. I kept asking myself why Laura is buying green horses and ponies for an inexperienced and green rider. I'm also marveling over how I've already seen them in 3 different facilities. They seem to move around often. One indoor looked a bit rustic, another was one of those fabric on metal frame arenas and the other was a gorgeous state of the art arena and barn. It makes me wonder why they have moved so often in such a relatively short time. You have pointed out all of the same concerns and observations that I have had after watching too many of their videos. I'm sorry to hear that the family and you have decided to part company. What a shame. Good people with poor judgment who own horses is a recipe for disaster.
Am glad you are doing this video they this had chiropractic done on chance back was out any starting to gain a little bit of weight but you don’t see it when you see him green on green Black and blue he might be calm and laid-back but like I said calm before the storm and then taking him to a horse show at there barn the next one
It’s seen that she set up gabby for success Gabby always seems to get the better horses Sophie get on chance walks around once or twice stands in the arena for a while and then gets off him she doesn’t really ride him at all or is it just not showing it
One million percent agree with you. As a second yr FdSc Equine Science Management and training degree student you are completely right. X
You’re always so right Raleigh. Man this entire family just fills me with pity :/
I learned to ride from a horrible riding facility that would put me on this horse named Rocky. He always bucked and I was the only student with enough experience to “handle” him (aka, fall with grace). I learned quickly how to work with horses that were stressed and/or poorly trained.
My very first horse was a OTTB I leased from a friend. This horse was green, but with my previous riding experiences, I didn’t think it was a big deal. Looking back now, almost 10 years later, I’m shocked I didn’t have any major injuries with this horse. She had a massive cribbing problem (PTSD from racing and poor treatment no doubt), had zero ground manners and zero experience with casual riding. I wasn’t a beginner rider when I got her, but in no way was I experienced either. That mare taught me so much, and I loved her to death, but I was oblivious to all the dangerous situations I put myself in.
Overall, that horse was such a blessing for me. She had a heart of gold and would always look out for me whenever we rode. But there were a lot of struggles and so many close calls. Thankfully my experience was overall positive, but I agree that OTTBs are not good beginner horses. They need so much love and structure. I know my sweet girl did ❤️
So sad to see that they haven't changed much. I saw a comment on their channel the other day saying that as the horse settles in and gains more weight his personality and "level-headedness" might change. Not to say that he will end up being crazy but definitely something they should consider. With Sophie being so young and inexperienced I don't think an OTTB is the best choice for her. I also have a 5-year-old OTTB and I love him to death but he is very much young and still very green, especially being fresh off the track. I really hope they will start to consider HER safety more and hopefully, they do so before she ends up with a serious injury. Amazing video Raleigh, I know they will see this as "hate but I wish they would take things like this to heart. Many people who comment on their channel really are just trying to help.
Laura is fixated on "he's teaching her how to be confident ". Denver could teach her that. But no it has to be a 5 yr old. I've been riding for 4 yrs (adult rider) and I would never even consider sitting a 5 yr old horse. It's insane. I would be putting myself at risk bc I'm not experienced enough. Daybyday forgets that there is no rush, ppl can ride for as long as they want and take there time to learn!.
@@coffeeandhorses I totally agree! I saw Denver a few days ago and he seemed like such a good fit for Sophie! Laura needs to give Sophie the space and time she needs and let her learn at her own pace. Sophie is still sooo young and has so much time to improve her riding, I think Laura is expecting her to advance to quickly.
@@beacoop253 and Sophie will not advance riding chance.
I got shut down for commenting that Sophie needs something much older and more experienced. I really hope she doesn't get hurt!
YASSS WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY TO COME 😫❤️
I also feel like Laura favors her older daughter’s situation and the way that she is physically. I feel like Laura lives vicariously through her older daughter and you can see it through the thumbnails between each daughter and just the amount that they give and do for the older daughter compared to Sophie when it comes to Horses. Also not letting Sophia truly answer the questions about what she wanted to do with the horse and letting that be Sophia’s answer. She had to interrupt and almost guide her and then finish the answer for her. Sophia clearly said she wanted to do jumpers and I had seen in previous videos that she really enjoyed doing that at a show and the mother says that she doesn’t really want to show but I truly think that she does and the mother is just downplaying what Sophia wants to do. I just wish that they would realize that they need an instructor that is much more highly educated in balance position alignment. Not just saying someone who teaches basics because they need more than just the basics and fundamentals. They have missed so much of that that bad habits have been created and not fixed time and time again and they just keep slightly mentioning the balance and position issues with both kids and then glaze over them or mention them once or twice in a lesson and then that’s it. They need someone who is experienced and educated in the seat and biomechanics and that is passionate about teaching their students these things in every lesson and making sure that anytime something is going wrong or slightly incorrect, that it is addressed and worked on at every moment that some thing is incorrect or going wrong. They need someone that is going to be able to use techniques and exercises to help them adjust and fix things but also teach them why. Not just threaten them with no stirrups or putting a crop under their thumb is to keep their hands correct. That is not enough and this instructor that they have is just not enough for the students and the other ones at the barn for that matter. So many of the riders in their group lessons have the exact same issues and you can see that in their videos of the group lessons. It’s a shame that there aren’t more regulations for being able to teach and being able to teach beginners of all ages especially.
100 percent agree. All the riders that this barn ride with their toes out, elbows in front "zombie arms" and posting on the correct diagonal is an issue. I wish Laura could see that both Brandon and Fiona do not have the skill set. And Sophie is in need of one on one dedicated lesson to her riding position even at a stand still. She is still in a chair position like 6 yrs later.. this should be embarrassing at this point but Sophie is under the impression that she is good at riding. But she won't be until someone deals with her riding position.
Its strange that Laura describes the family as not being very show competitive , when the actual reason that they kept Sophie going with Fin for so long, was for her to do this year's show season on him at Trillium level. And Sam said that he has already bought much more expensive curtains for Champs this year.
“Ugh, laura!”
‘Drinks out of frustration’
As one whos ridden calm, sweet 3-4 year old horses. There is a time, were you'll really notice how inexperienced and young they are. Sophie seems much more confident on Chance then she did Finn but im just worried how itll be once Chance youth starts peeking out...
To me there are two things that make this an unfair situation.
He's inexperienced and being ridden upside down and crooked, this won't help both his mental education and his muscle education.
He also is simply too narrow for her.
He could certainly always be a calm horse but that doesn't change how unfair it is to punish him by putting him in this situation.
@@jrmints80 yeah Took me a few years before my Riding instructor let me on the younger ones. Though i did also get to learn on a experienced horse from the get go and i worked hard from start.
She looks confident on Chance but confident wont help the horse with the training. And when the horses act. well like horses. they get the shit too.
@@jrmints80 as for the Narrow part. Im not native english speaking, Do you mean that hes not very "wide" in his build?
yes! While he’s not 4 ive hit a rough patch with an 8 yr old ive been riding who is incredibly well trained in dressage but is very green to being ridden in a lesson program. My trainer decided itd be best if nobody ride him except for her and one other advanced rider for the time being because she doesnt want his training to be undone. while it sucks to admit that im not ready to be a part of his training process, im willing to if it means we both benefit. Its hard to take it slow but unfortunately thats what you sign up for with this sport!
It's good that they addressed the issues that were made clear to them by so many people. The problem the failed to do their homework and just made a hole set if new mistakes.
we all knew this was coming ... can't wait to watch
Another informative video, thanks!. At the rescue where I am involved the owner did NOT allow inexperienced people to adopt, sponsor or lease OTTB horses that were there. Matter of fact, the one's that she thought were experienced enough they also were required to keep the horse at the rescue for at least a year before she would release the horse. This gave the recue owner time to see if it was a good match. Sometimes within that year the owner or the the prospect buyer would decide not to take the horse, or either it worked out great for all.
Sophie needs a school master. I love your videos so much 💗
Also what is the best helmet? right now I have a champion one
@@islaandjoey2726, it's ultimately going to be the helmet that fits you best. I really recommend going into a tack store to try on a bunch, and have it fitted by someone who knows what they are doing. For concussion impact minimization, look into MIPS technology.
@@islaandjoey2726 samshield for sure
there is a very green horse that I rode once he was 4 and he came straight from the pasture. He was the sweetest thing and was very patient when I got on, walked around and was overall so good. But then he just snapped and started rearing and almost threw me off. I thankfully got off because I didn’t want to get hurt but this just goes to show that even the sweetest and most patient horses aren’t the best.
It’s so sad.. they are setting her up for failure honestly I have been riding for years and have many lessons but I still consider myself beginner! And I wouldn’t get a ottb that young and just raced last year for a beginner I really hope they realize but I think Sophia is just excited to have a new horse that seems lovely, but she really needs something her level. I had a rough time when I was riding a horse way to inexperienced for me I felt like I want going anywhere in my riding, I think Sophie may feel it at least start to feel that. So I got a new trainer and finally found an amazing one it took years but I’m progressing slowly!!
Me, who has been riding for 1 year( a beginner )having a 9 year old horse with arthritis, who is lazy AND HAPPY! I love him ❤
the comment about the blind leading the blind rings true in my personal experience. our (former) unqualified barn manager advocated for my grandmother to buy me a green horse despite the fact that she was terrible rider and i had only ever taken lessons at camp. it ended with me breaking my nose, bruising three ribs, and lacerating a kidney on three occasions over three years. its ridiculously dangerous and i could have died because of her arrogance and ignorance and taking advantage of my grandmother.
I’ve had to learn the hard way. My first pony, when I was 12 years old, was a 4 year old pony, who I originally didn’t want because she was so young. Rode her twice to try her and ended up falling in love, but took her home and she threw me damn near every ride I had on her. My confidence was destroyed.
It wasn’t until I ended up in the hospital, and needing surgery, that my parents and coach decided to start looking at putting me on a new horse. I did a year lease on a 15 year old horse who taught me in much kinder ways. That horse brought me from crying looking at a cross rail to confidently going around a 3 foot hunter course, and gave me the eventing bug. He was the horse who taught me what I needed to know to get my first off the track mare when I sent him back to his owner.
Buying a green horse was the most unsafe decision my family made, but they didn’t know any better. Luckily I turned out okay and we came up with a better solution. I just hope the same thing, or worse, doesn’t have to happen to Sophie before they realize they’re heading down the wrong path.
Ah yes the old, OTTB, green horse, green rider deal. My most favorite scenario in the Equestrian world.
Listen to Raleigh! I was a beginner rider but my (not very good) instructor put me on a younger hot horse and I fell and broke my pelvis. I used to ride the older more experienced horse and nothing ever happened. As soon as i was put on that other horse i had this accident which I still feel the repercussions 1 year later.
What I don’t get is , if she’s at such an “amazing” barn with such an “amazing” trainer why can she lease/loan a school pony to her level is my question 🙈🤣
That’s below them 🙄 they NEED to own a horse, evidenced by the fact Laura has a horse too 💀
@@georgiepreece6748 fair enough tbh I just think it’s wrong they used to be ok but they’ve gone down hill ngl
Thank you for giving such good advice and being so nice to go out of your way to try to help these people.
The problem have with them is the praise Gabby with everything, which really raised her ego, they make it like Gabby is never wrong which in the long run will not be good for Gabby, while with Sophie it’s only her fails and seems like Sophie will never be as good as Gabby. Sophie really needs a horse fit for her that can teach her the basics. An older horse who is broke. I had that. A 19yo learned so much then upgraded to a horse who wasnt as broke. That’s what Sophie needs.
So I was a beginner English rider. Grew up on working western horses, including cattle herding but zero jumping/english exposure. I have a good seat and sitting trot, so my trainer put me on a Thoroughbred only off the racetrack for 3 weeks to see if he could be made into a schooling pony. It kinda backfired because we immediately clicked and I ended up leading him. The reason it backfired was that he liked me and was incredibly responsive, he never refused a jump for to change gait… for me, if he didn’t like the person, he’d develop selective deafness and refuse direction. We were great for each other, but he definitely could only be ridden by someone he liked. One woman was a serious sport woman in multiple disciplines, including riding from the age of three. She couldn’t get my boy to even pick up a trot. He was brat but I loved him.
Yes thank you for talking about this!
I definitely got a green horse as my first horse and I think a lot have made that mistake. Mine at least was a gelding that was pretty kind. My friend’s mom legit got an unbroke 2 year old stallion as her first horse and it went pretty terribly to say the least.
We sold that green horse and I ended up with a dead broke mare that quickly became my heart horse. She passed in 2010 and I miss her every day.