Not to mention chance was their trainers horse so to say he just wanted money I'd have to agree especially sense he most likely had better horses for sofie as he has good school masters but no giver her the 5 year old tb
💯 right!!! Plus the mom is more interested in fame than taking any advice from anybody that might know more than her! If you watch their videos all she does is continuously try to convince viewers of how calm Chance is.
I use to ride at the same barn as them with Fiona as my coach. Laura is actually crazy and didn't take no for an answer. She's hard to get through to and thinks her daughter is an Olympic rider and trainer. She even asked me if I wanted Gabby to ride my OTTB and see if she could fix some of his behavior problems (he was four fresh off the track and head shy so I wasn't even riding him myself at that point) They would be in the arena constantly when I was working him vlogging and taking up the whole ring so I was limited to what I could actually do as I didn't trust their horses. In the end I ended up switching barns and was better off for it. Found a better coach and my horse settled nicely.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience of knowing them. They seem to fall out with a lot of people in real life very quickly.Recently someone commented that they owned a lesson horse that they leased to Fiona, and they didn't even realise that dbd were putting videos of it on here every time the girls rode it, and they were making comments and constantly giving their uneducated opinions about him. Not that the horse cared of course, lol. But the young lady said that they weren't even considering the fact that he was up for sale at the time.
Thank you also for sharing your experience with them. I know I wouldn't get along with Laura. She is to brassy and bold, not only a know it all. I couldn't believe I heard her say she didn't know what a block barn was and she has one. Cement blocks made into stalls...wow that took me back. Now they are doing their own hay.....this should be good. Ya know Laura is going to boss Sam around. Personally if I had a daughter taking lessons at that barn and I saw Laura video taping and shooting her mouth and laughing. I would be looking for a new barn no matter how far I had to travel. How can your child learn anything with that distraction. I can't imagine they have too many friends.
@maidget mafia she was a no bullshit coach and I respected her for that. However as I developed more I needed a different kind of coach one who had experimce with OTTBs Fiona didn't let Laura walk all over her though which is why I think ultimately they left
Laura doesn't take advice. She sees you as a "hateful person" and anyone who gives advice is a "hater". And then deletes their comments. Her maturity level is low.
@@alanahgiltmier4362 I agree. People are just trying to help their daughter along her journey as a rider and she keeps pushing them away. It isn't about them; it's about their children and their potential to grow and learn at the hands of a trainer that understands what they're doing. She could be a great rider if they would open up to new ideas and recommendations.
Also a huge problem is Laura being at every lesson to “record”. She’s constantly contradicting the instructors when it comes to Sophie. Which is why Sophie is not a good rider despite riding for YEARSSSS. Their trainer Fiona was/is trash. I liked Brandon, but I think he needs to tell Laura she can not talk or interfere with lessons. Sophie constantly whines and complains and will literally say she’s not jumping a certain jump if Brandon tells her too. And Laura ALLOWS Sophie to do this. Part of getting better at anything is pushing through the stuff that makes you uncomfortable. But Laura does not instill confidence in Sophie, more so panders to her being “scared”. I watched the video of Sophie riding Finn on their test ride, and she legit cried. Red flag that clearly she was never ready for that pony. It’s extremely embarrassing that at this point, the Trainers are using them as a money grab. Laura saying that Sophie is a new young rider is just not true anymore. There’s no hiding anymore her lack of skills and progression in riding. Oh and in one of their vlogs with Chance, they mention how they had never lunged a horse before!! Are you fucking kidding me? I started lessons on a lunge line, and learning to lunge was a foundational concept.
Brandans lessons used to be very active, he was constantly providing feedback and asking for more. Laura would always step in and say "no she needs to it this way, you need to teach her this way, oh well I thought she did this well". For his faults I think he does have knowledge and did try to share it but it wasn't shutdown and Sophie isn't really a driven student. Instead of dropping them like he should he's gone pretty quiet, partly for the steady pay and partly I think because he enjoys working with Gabby. Laura is and continues to be their problem.
@@jrmints80 I agree 100%. I don’t blame him for giving up on Sophie. Can’t be a good trainer when you have a parent who doesn’t know jack shit being a backseat driver.
I agree even if luara wants to record she can do so OUTSIDE of the arena (where she has no say of what's going on) and she would still get beautiful videos.
This! The barn I used to be at the parents HAD to stay in the room overlooking the arena with glass, so the parents couldn’t speak or interfere with the lesson!
That bottom comment about they'd never lunged a horse is not true, it doesn't take looking through many of their videos to see that, I believe they said they were simply lunging him so they both got better at it 🤷♀️ that comment is definitely not true
Yes!! A new trainer would fix so many of their issues. If everyone in your comment section is telling you something is wrong, something is most likely wrong!!!
I wouldn't hold your breath on that. Laura is getting more defensive over time unless everyone agrees with her. Her solution is to delete, delete,delete and pretend it's not happening.
The sad thing is, there are SO many people who are this inexperienced also giving advice. They don't know who is truthworthy and who is not because they don't know any better.
Part of the issue is Brandan used to try to teach them, Laura made excuses. Now he just says "thats ok" because he's given up, in my opinion he should drop them. But when they did a clinic with an instructor where Laura couldn't intervene they felt it was mean and haven't done anything since. Laura knows this horse is too small. She knows Sophie isn't knowledgeable enough, she's admitted these things if you happen to catch the right video, then the next she goes back to doubling down. I disagree, they aren't trying.
Laura needs to stay outta lessons and let Instructor teach but they need a new one. But I think most in their area know who they are and clearly want nothing to do with them. I think this maybe their last barn. Fiona even dropped them.
@@jrmints80 ohhhhh absolutely!! That woman was just a crazy as laura.. I think Laura gets so involved in the barn and lessons that no trainer will touch the kids now. They have no other option but branden. Sophie clearly never listens in lessons, running to mom every time she's tired or wants mom to tell trainer to leave her alone. Gabby at least goes out and rides without saying or crying when things get tough.
I definitely agree. Growing up I had a trainer that was “mean” and there were many times as a kid she made me wanna cry or feel really bad but I never gave in. And after getting older I realized how much she helped me and pushed me in the right direction making me a better rider and she’s still one of the best trainers I’ve ever had.
@@tiimbit_7398 i had a trainer that didn't want you telling her excuses.. and if you didn't pay attention she got you off your horse and your lesson was over. Then you just watched others. She said, I'm not paid to be your friend 1st.. I'm your trainer. Out of ring we will laugh and talk. Parents were not allowed in ring. And if you kept acting dumb in lessons you got pulled from showing
I recommended Warwick Shiller years ago with the first lease horse and they didn't care. They want to do it easy so I wouldn't say don't blame the parents, this is the path they have chosen, others have recommended they find more experienced trainers and they didn't care. Gabby even went on a weekend training camp with a proper trainer and she hated it because it was to much work. I honestly have never met anyone whom would choose to stay with such and inexperienced trainer. Everyone I know would move on to a trainer that would improve their riding and horsemanship.
Vanessa. They don't care. This is as far as these girls are going to go. I hear Brandon say good Sophie and her posture and hands are all over. What kind of trainer ignores that. They are happy doing what they are doing and honestly don't want to work to do better. I thought Gabby could be an excellent rider, but after her clinic I said to myself instead of listening and learning. She hated it cause the trainer kept correcting her. She is still doing the same, so she doesn't want or have the desire to improve, cause she thinks she is the best. Yes keep going to Trillium in front of professional judges and see why you don't get in the ribbons. These people are who they are, never going to change. So it will be what it is. But I surely do not want to contribute to them making a dime.
I love Warwick Schiller! His videos have helped me when I get stuck with my rescue horse because he thinks he can plow into me with his shoulders. At my barn, the barn owner is a lesson instructor and she says it is either her way or the highway. She is from the classical french dressage times and will not listen to anybody else. Her great idea to me was to put a stud chain on my horse to make him listen to me and show him who is boss. I told her "hell no". My horse is terrified of fly spray and he is getting bettet every time we work. He needs time. And I have time, she doesn't.
I feel like Sophie isn't a horse person. She is a girl liking horses and have a animal collector as a mom but I don't get the feeling that Sophie have a genuine intrerest in learning about horses. To do classes, clinics, read, learn etc. She just want a pretty horse to drive around on without the effort or riding.
This should be pinned. Sophie is already showing signs of being a hoarder. Her 100's of saddles, toy horses, fidgety toys . Sadly bc she is home schooled by Laura she has lost out on so many experiences.
I agree. It appears the older sibling is a horse person and the parents just looped Sophie in for ease. She wants to be able to jump and do the things her sister can, but isn’t willing to do the work. And her parents telling her she can, when she cannot, isn’t doing her any favours
I think another good point here that not only applies to their situtation but many is... more advanced or professional riders who are genuinely excellent horseman did not get to the "top" by using 1 single trainer. They take lessons and are advised by several different instructors throughout their life. So, while being loyal to one trainer is nice, branching out and seeking suggestions from other knowledgable equestrians who teach differently/focus on different aspects is HIGHLY beneficial to ALL riders. No one person is great at every aspect of riding. Plus, this would allow them to continue their loyalty with the current trainer. As well as help both horse and rider by getting input from a fresh set of eyes.
Sophie clearly needs a particular teaching style. I wonder if she has a learn disability?. No matter how much time passes she rides pretty much the same as when she was 8.
@@coffeeandhorses7991It would also explain why she seems to have trouble forming her speech sounds to the level that my captions generator can pick up on. And the fact that Laura repeats after her every single word she says. So she must know that she could do with some help, before Sophie becomes more self conscious about it.
Good advice, as usual! I really don’t like this trainer they have. First, he let Sophie jump a lame pony, then he matched her with a horse that is way out of her range at this point and time. It upsets me because there are SO many amazing schoolmasters at age 15+ that are being offered for sale with plenty of years left and the wisdom to help her learn to make the right decisions. Yet, so much of the time, they get overlooked and sent to slaughter. It breaks my heart. But I also think people judging the family need to have some compassion and you’re right to call it out. We have all made unwise decisions when it comes to horses. My first horse never had a PPE. I didn’t even know that was a thing! But once you know better, you do better. At least that’s what I hope for these folks.
i have a 15+ schoolmaster mare that was going to be slaughter. she was head shy and nervous of people. when i first saw her i fell in love and went out in the field even though everyone said that she would not come to me. After 5 mins she put her nose in my hands and then walked away, i walked along sige matching her footsteps. i bought her and have spend a year just spending time with her in the field and on firework night spending the night with her in the field . I am now her rock and i have just started riding her bareback as we are waiting for the saddle fitter as she is a weird shape and i want everything comfortable for her, she has scaring on her face where a flyhood or halter has cut in but she is not head shy anymore and has a great sense of fun. older horses for the win.
While I totally agree with you, sadly the mom sees anyone's advice that is constructive as hate and deletes and blocks. She thinks she's just right and makes excuses instead of really seeing the entire picture and that her daughter really needs to step back in training and go back to basics with a schoolmaster.
💯, Laura is a narc and anything/anyone that doesn’t go with their narrative gets comments deleted and then blocked. They will not do the right thing when it comes to Chance until Sophie gets hurt…even then I doubt they’d do the right thing, they’d probably bit him up like they did with Finn
@@mysticcreations-e5l yup.. I've been blocked from comments cause I told her that branden wasn't the trainer she needed for Sophie. How can a kid be on wrong diagonal for 5 laps and he not say anything, the school master horse runs out at jumps and he says, " that's OK Sophie, just steer him" This won't end well with chance when by accident Sophie finds chances, GO button and he goes into race mode.
@@keri...wanderingincircles5170 I agree 100%, Sophie is only going to end up hurt and she’ll go back to square one once again. Sophie in yesterday’s video already didn’t seem enthused by the thought of riding Chance in the lesson when she thought she was riding Denver, so Sophie is more than likely getting afraid already. But they will keep getting her green horses instead of a schoolmaster that she needs 🙄
@@mysticcreations-e5l I noticed that also. She can barely keep herself balanced then she's hoping he'll keep trotting but she's not really using any leg. She's always been a passenger rider, and I really don't think that will change. You see it when she rides Denver they that small gymnastics and he ducks out every time. She's got no leg. No steering and then almost falls off. She does bare minimum as a rider and mom praises her and trainer just let's her go. Then you hear Laura say, she's always reserve champion... yup outta 3 riders in cross rails after 3 yrs of showing.. no hate but she's not progressing as a rider. She's just managing to not fall off as much and not get hurt
@@keri...wanderingincircles5170 sophie was just in a show and won....against what looked to be 8 yr olds. The competition is fierce !. Just goes to show she treated more like an 8 yr old then a 12/13 yr old. Truly embarrassing how far behind Sophie is. But that has everything to do with Laura.
Then there are the videos where Laura says to Sophie "people will judge you and say you're too big", mom of the freaking year. And thats her fault too.
It was bad enough telling her people had commented on her weight already, but even worse to be saying that about her when nobody had actually commented it!
anybody else just have too many thoughts and feelings they don't even want to type it all out 😂 overall, I just want Sophie to be happy and safe at the end of the day.
as you were talking about how committed and hardworking you used to be about training Link and yourself, saying that you really need to be pushing and putting in the hard yards to get progress, i was trying to imagine Sophie doing this with Chance and i JUST CANT! she is not a motivated rider, she doesn’t have the drive to do what it takes to get where she “wants” to get.
Agree. Even in the vlog where she is supposed to be helping you see her standing doing nothing. If she actually went to public school they would seriously have to put her in with the grades twos!. She would love it.
She has been riding for... 7 or 8 years now? And cannot ask for canter transition correctly, cannot post the trot properly, and they think she is ready for an OTTB.... really bad parenting for constantly putting this kid in unsafe situations and shame on the trainer for suggesting such a green prospect for a nervous unbalanced rider.
And for the record: I really dont understand why - in this stage - they dont have proper trainer... I would understand, if they were new to riding industry, but after all of what happened and what have been told... I dont get it! So thank you for this 🙏🤩
I’m 15 and work with a rescue ottb. She’s not mine but im the only one that does anything with her. It’s been three years and I have been doing ground work for those three years with the occasional pop on and just walk. I feel like that’s a good starting point, basic ground work and light rides
Thanks for the resources. I’m going to look into them. I have been riding for close to 20 years, but I still think I may take my 4 year old gelding to a barn with a riding instructor for a couple of months so that they can help me train and see things that I don’t see. He’s also a very chill horse but he is just a baby. I have been blessed to be naturally able to get horses to do what I want, but imo it is always good to have multiple resources on how to do things with horses. But I also understand that there are a lot of dumb and conflicting comments on the internet, so I understand why the family is hesitant to listen to all of them.
About 6-7 months ago I was in the same situation as Sophie, my old trainer was pushing a lease on me since they bought one of their boarders horses to use as a money deposit, and when I told her I was interested in boarding my sisters TWH, she got attitude w me and then treated me like shit at lessons and I ended up changing barns and I've learned more at this barn in 5 months than the other in 2 years. Having a trustworthy trainer MATTERS! I've been taking lessons for 3 years and I have been searching for a horse for 2, it takes time to find out what you want to do with riding and it takes even more time to find a horse that's a fit for you.
I don't think Sophie should own a horse. I think she should stick to beginner lesson horses until she can move up to something more advanced. Or at least own an ex-lesson horse that can teach her the basics and move her up the levels.
I can’t wait to watch this!! Thank you for pointing out the irresponsible actions of the DayByDay channel. Hopefully they’ll be more open to advice and criticism in the future
Some other advice to give them. Whatever horse Sophie has, she needs to also just spend time with it. Ground training is 24/7. How you interact on the ground with your horse, tells the horse a LOT about you.
A lot of workers at my barn are 13-16 years old. They work to pay for training, lessons, board, etc. and they'll either get payed half, half get kept for training or something, so full will go for something like training
I’m sure that their trainer has a financial motive to get them to take that thoroughbred. It’s clear his judgement is clouded by money. I know this because I’ve been a victim of this exact situation, someone that I trusted in the equestrian community as a lifelong horse owner, rider, and even rodeo queen. That horse put me in the hospital with a concussion. I couldn’t remember the last 2 years of my life for hours. She had a financial incentive to give me a horse that was dangerous, and rinsed her hands free of the situation. I was the one to suffer the price, I should’ve known better, but I trusted this person. They do not deserve to be in this situation.
To be fair to their trainer, having a parent in the middle of the arena with them while teaching takes away from his authority. I don’t why he allows it but it can’t be good. The kids fall back on their parent if they are being pressured to do something they think they can’t do. It just undermines everything. 🤔
Love you Raleigh and thank you for giving them sound and excellent advice. Even though your advice is spot on, it will be on deaf ears. They are stubborn people, they are going to do what they want. Advice from you and others go over Laura's head. She will only listen till something truly bad happens to Sophie and maybe not even then. I agree she needs a different trainer and so does her horse. They have the money obviously so that is not the problem. The problem is taking responsibility for their daughter.
I wonder if this might be a case of "Sunk Cost Fallacy": the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial. It's not just money either; the investment might be in admiration or belief. It could be that they're invested in their trainer, ie they really like him, he says things that seem to make sense and they've had him for a long time. So, they don't want to let go. Among other things, it would be admitting they were wrong and that's a hard thing for many of us.
I just think that Laura's personality would be too tricky for any other trainer's to cope with. It shouldn't even be about her at all , but there's no escaping the fact that it is. Brandon is young, laid back and Laura likes to say he's eye candy. He gets the lesson money and probably extra for riding Sophie's horse, and Laura stays happy with the status quo.
I am sure what you said is true, Michelle, but I also think Laura has no common sense and apparently, does not mind embarrassing both herself and her children.
This style and concept of video is probably one of my favorites you’ve put out ever! I’ve been subscribed and watching for literally 3 years. I have been craving information like this to learn how to better train my horse on a budget but not knowing where to look.
Raleigh this was a great video. You gave advice backed by your personal experience that will help any inexperienced rider. And your point about finding a trainer to fit both the riders level and the horses is spot on.
This video was so spot on! I got a green horse two years ago and I was an intermediate rider who gad been on and off riding for 4 years, obviously I had never trained a horse before and I took him to a professional. Since then I have learned the proper techniques and am currently taking lessons on how to keep him framed up right. He is doing phenomenal and is my special heart horse, never planning to sell him❤… thank you for elaborating on this you have really helped me to solidify my confidence that I made a good decision
I think an aspect of this you missed is that the more you give Laura sound advice and clear direction on how to improve, the more she resists and makes videos trying to prove you wrong. So, we should be seeing extra footage of how "great" Sophie rides this horse for the next week and extra talk about how great her “team of professionals” are.
@@mysticcreations-e5l Laura will be holding up the books they read to learn horsemanship. The Black Stallion, Misty of Chincoteague, My Little Pony and now Seabiscuit.
Right,.Laura will hear that they need a "more advanced instructor" as "Sophie is advanced", thats how Laura's brain works. The only way to change things is to call them out on their behavior and hit them in the ego, ie the views, Laura lives to be able to say she has all of these "fans". That's the priority to them.
@@jrmints80 Raleigh seems to be in stage 2 of attempting to help. It’s where you try to word things so there is no way they can be interpreted as hate. Stage 3 is rephrasing/arguing your point in a different (non-threatening way) and finally stage 4, otherwise known as fuck it.
Hi! Just wanna say I love your videos and I always find then so important and informative and you've opened up eyes to alot of things in the equestrian world and I'm happy to be apart of this community
Hey Raleigh! There are two topics I wish you would talk about, these are “horse diving” which is basically jumping horses from big heights into water, and foal racing which is just… it would be so nice if you would share your opinion about these!
Laura admitted in a video to just letting things happen and then addressing them. She chooses not to be proactive which potentially will harm Sophie or chance. She has the money for trainers yet hires the bare minimum and then crosses her fingers. I dont think she's mean or malicious, but at some point she needs to really do some soul searching and confront her need to be correct over proactive research. She could really use some problem solving skills and be open to experiment with new ideas. A solid groundwork foundation would improve their horsemanship immensely. Hopefully they move on from brandan soon. I once mentioned that it was cool that Laura could design homeschool lessons to help learn about the horses, but don't think they decided to do that. I 100% agree with you and hope they take your advice.
I honestly don’t think Sophie is a horse person. From everything I’ve seen (which, to be fair, is relatively limited) she seems like she wants to own and ride a horse but has little interest in learning about her horse and how to become a better rider for them. Almost like those people who have have kids just to say they’re a mom/dad but don’t really have an interest in them.
I've also been in a situation where I was 13 and I was just starting to ride a completely green horse. My grandpa bought me a weaned foal (3 years before) and I was starting together with her. I know and fully agree it's not a good idea, but I've been lucky to work things out and both of us learnt together. She's now a sweet horse that is calm and listens well to commands while I'm I'd say an intermediate rider who works part-time on a farm (walking clients, lunging, hall training etc.) I've never had a real trainer, but I've searched a lot of information and listened to advice from people who knew more than me. I'd definitely not recommend a young horse for a beginner rider, but as you said it's something that you can work with with enough effort and correct guidance.
Thank you so much for Raleigh for this. My horse is not fresh but I was lied to do about his training and I can't afford very expensive trainers for him. A lot of things I do by myself
My mum was my biggest critic and biggest advocate. When I lost all my confidence at 12. After 4/5 years of riding. I had to start from scratch. Thank god. Because I needed it. I would have stand up arguments with my trainer/mum when I was terrified. But they wouldn't give up nor give in. And it taught me so many life lessons. I'm ever grateful.
They need to realise that learning to ride isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It can be hard work but it’s worth it if you’re willing to work for it! I used to work at a dressage stables and while working there I started taking dressage seriously. I had two of the strictest instructors. They were on at me and you know what, I improved so much and I thank them for it. also my parents dropped me off at the stables as a kid and left me there and weren’t stood in the middle while I was being taught. I think Laura needs to step back a bit and let a *good* trainer do their job!
I appreciate you making this video. I love how you have the ability to accept that you didnt get your point across, and you made a different video to fix your mistake.
Even if Day By Day doesn't listen to a thing in this video, I can't express how much this helped me. I am very very new to horses, despite adoring them as a child and admiring them throughout my life. I'm behind on the curve when it seems like every equestrian started riding at, like 5 or 8 or 13. Im still going to try and find a good trainer for the basics, as I don't want to screw up my fundamentals and I can't get a horse at this point in my life. I still want to learn and be around them. It gives me some comfort that I have non-trainer resources as I'm also not financially steady (I'm in college rn). Thank you very much.
My trainer sold me a horse way to hot for me about a year ago. I am lucky that I learned how to handle him quickly, but he still did step on my foot and almost broke it. Be careful guys, I’m lucky I learned how to handle hot horses.
When I started to learn to ride my mother went all out in protective riding gear I even had a riding vest. She would always watch on the sidelines and record me or take photos just to make memories. Where I ride I’m a huge fan of being lunged it shows me where I need to improve. I have done vaulting with a older lesson horse it really helped me to learn more about my position
I was leasing a 18 year old Q-h for his last show season {Not his last time being ridden at all!} which he was being partially leased and ridden twice a week once by me once by the other little girl. We signed up for 4-h to just have fun and let him have fun his last show days. Unfortunately, we were told we "Couldn't show him in two counties." which was really stressful because we wanted to go aswell, We found chippy, a green broke 7 year old 17.2hh tb gelding. Now, Ive worked with green horses before so we bought him as a fun project. after we got him he was a sweetheart but the issue was he has never really been anywhere other than his og home. When we got chippy one of our first rides wasnt the best, He bucked me off twice but after each time I got bucked off I walked him over to where he was scared. Chippy did end up breaking my hand but I still decided to keep him, It took alot of groundwork for him to be "okay" for show. Now the last issue I have is someone was using a crop in our english-pleasure class and we were doing well and Im still super proud of him but, The person was going past us because there horse was "acting out" but, when there horse stopped next to chippy they repeatedly whipped there horse and whipped chippy on accident also hitting his flank now we didnt really desensitize his flank because I know where my legs are in the saddle. He reared up and I managed to stay on, Once he landed I preformed an emergency dismount and went to the middle of the arena petting him and re-assuring him. If a tb recently got off the track a beginner cant handle one its very difficult even for experienced riders because the horses dont know any better. Green Horses dont know any better.
Thank you for showing us trainers to learn from. I'm a beginner and it's important for me to see who treats the horses the right way. And I like that it brings some positiveness to your channel ☺️ Greetings from Europe!
They don't seem to be capable of handling critique and if you can't handle that, you can't learn to ride well. You have to be able to take what a trainer has to say and apply it.
Sorry Raleigh. they threatened to sue you for respectfully calling attention to some rather dangerous and irresponsible errors in judgement. I can't agree with you that they care a whole lot, especially since, as you've mentioned yourself, their content appears, even if not reckless, at least highly exploitative. I think they've made it clear they will view constructive criticism as a threat to their livelihood and that of their channel. Imho, might be time to just move on from the Day by Day saga.
Raleigh!! Iv been volunteering at a barn, grooming the horses and doing turn outs, it's been 3 weeks and iv learned SO much, I have started taking riding lessons to, the trainer had me ride a vary experienced horse with just a bareback pad, she said once I can balance myself and learn to move with the horse I can move up to a saddle, I learned so much in just an hour of riding! I have been working with my favorite horse, Red, because he has a fear of the stall mats, I copied exactly what you did with link and his fear of the trailer, the first time it took me an hour just to get him to touch the stall mat with the front of his foot the first time, but it only took me 15mins the second time. Thank you for everything you do!
Almost all of my experience is ground work. I was hired a couple years ago to get green horses ready for the saddle & learning desensitization & stuff. But, being as tall & as overweight as I am, not too many horses can carry me, so I mainly stuck to ground work. I hope to start up again soon (I was diagnosed with cancer in December & haven't done anything since) But, I've found someone with a big boi that I will be starting on for the first time since I was a kid & Im super existed!!
But Raleigh, so many experienced horse people have told Laura over and over about the bad advice they are getting from their trainer and she ignores all the advice, so after all this, most people blame Laura because she makes excuses and always thinks she knows what is best.
Ur so nice and u care so much for horses I love it. Your legit amazing. I’ve started to realise horses are horses and if there not happy then listen to them. If a horse doesn’t work I domt walk away because I want to give my all to make it work. Had my Irish sports horse 16.2h for 10 years now and it completely took 5 years to sort him out. Never gave up and so glad I never got rid of him because he’s got the sweetest heart for such a big horse. Unfortunately he got arthritis from the dealer who sold him to us as they abused him and mentally drained him. I then got a 14.1 mare and she was so good, she unfortunately died a few years later of laminitis. I then got a 11,2 gelding and unfortunately he was dangerous. He threw me as a 6 year old girl into a truck window screen. He would rear whenever he wanted to, chase u out the field no matter how bonded you are. On a hack he would throw me in ditches and all of that. So we sold him back as he was nasty and made me loose a lot of my confidence. I then got a 12.2 and was a big regret but we tried and tried. He wasn’t the best of ponies but I taught him and he taught me. All he knew was Flatwork and he was 11 years old going on 12. He was a nightmare. Absolutely terrified on machinery, salt boxes, speed bumps , water, horsetrailer, horselorry and horse box and a lot more. Now he is 17 and legit the spiciest but sweetest boy ever. Hard to believe I was 7 and was able to fly 1m oxers after a few months of work because he was so willing after being scared of multiple stuff. Honestly he is insane and love him so much. I am now 14 so we have been together for 6 years now ❤
I think what you said about not just letting your trainer do all the work but also learning how they are training your horse is an amazing thing that everyone should be doing. So many people send their horse to a trainer and then just take it back after it's trained and don't even care to learn how they trained them. I am currently taking riding lessons and I'm going on my 2nd year riding and I am always watching UA-cam videos and getting other people's advice besides just my trainers. YOUR TRAINER CAN NOT MAKE YOU GET BETTER! You are the only person that can put in the work to get better.
I was so happy after watching this video. You have a lot of proactive advice for Sophie and her parents. You have a huge following and I'm glad that you took the time to notice that your prior video might have "inspired" some people to leave negative comments on Day by Days page. I personally don't follow them, and have only viewed the videos that you have posted about. I agree that it seems that Sophie's parents are not knowledgeable about horses, and are trusting their trainer to give them sound advice. I hope they take this video and your advice to seek out more Knowledgeable trainers to assist them in furthering their knowledge and training. I'm glad that they're leasing this horse, however I'm concerned that because this horse is owned by their trainer, they might still get manipulated into believing the horse is a better fit than it may be. Thank you for all you do, and for taking a different approach. BTW, it wasn't the "resting bitch face" as much as the eye rolls for me! 🙄😏😂
I feel like these kids are used to getting what they want and they don’t take no as an answer. You can CLEARLY tell in most of the jumping lessons, Sophie is not ready to jump. It’s either the trainer not being good or Laura interrupting the lessons all the time and taking control on what the kids do. I feel so bad for their animals ….also Laura talks as if she doesn’t know much about horses so your point is valid .
Really the only thing I disagree on is them truly trying to do better, anyone that has years of experience that gives them advice that doesn’t suit their narrative gets their comment deleted and then blocked. And I truly believe both Laura and Sam are very ignorant and don’t actually want to listen to reason or logic and Laura 100% won’t listen to this either, it’s just what they do. This video was another good one! 😊, that’s just the only thing I disagree with (P.S in yesterday’s lesson video Chance is already being jumped by Sophie)
Agreed. Their videos were filled with comments about getting Sophie an experienced, sturdy schoolmaster to learn on and they go out and get the kid an untrained, under muscled OTTB.
@@jwalker2276 I believe this horse will get hurt. His legs are thin and going over jumps higher and higher with an unbalanced rider is a leg injury on a horse. Or even a serious injury to a rider. I am not fat shaming Sophie. Not all of us have THE PERFECT FIGURE. Sophie should realize herself that she isn't right for this horse. I know Sophie doesn't want to hurt him, but that is what is going to happen. The weight of a jockey and saddle is lighter than Sophie and her saddle. Plus jockeys don't bounce on there backs. I am just saying. Be sensible
@@sharontalaga5924 not gonna be long until Sophie’s weight starts impacting more than just her riding. We all go through a chubby stage growing up but this is getting serious. Should be up to her parents to be encouraging better habits. Harsh reality but its the truth
I love you so much Raleigh! Thank you for sharing and taking a different approach on this topic. This advice needs to be shared with everyone who wants to buy a horse or train their own animal. I've been retraining my twh for 3 and a half months, he was underweight and needed a lot of topline redevelopment. I've done everything you suggested and have a dressage trainer who taught me groundwork exercises that have made a huge difference in him. He doesn't stumble as much, he is getting more round and less stiff on his right. Slow and steady progress is as expected. We've had 4 rides of verying quality but progress is still being made. He still has a long road to full recovery but Amelia Newcomb Dressage, Your Riding Success, and on my philosophy days Artistic Dressage are all channels I use regularly with your videos. There are about another half dozen I'll randomly watch, occasional twh specific ones too. 🥰 lot of love to you Raleigh!
Nice video! Love reaction videos! It’s also great that your being there “trainer” if you know what I mean. ❤️ also it’s gray again that you just helping!!❤️✌🏼hope all is well!! We also need more people like you!! ❤️
Totally off topic but Raleigh's makeup lately is so beautiful, she's always beautiful but I can tell how much she enjoys doing her makeup with how amazing the looks have been. I've been a subscriber since she was 14, love to see her turn into the beautiful person she is today ^-^
I only recently started riding (18 mos~) and I'm very lucky to have a stepmother who is very knowledgeable. We've started looking at potentially getting a horse for myself, and I've really figured out how vital it is to have someone have those hard, but necessary conversations regarding what level you are ready for. My trainer is great and will tell me, very straight forward what I'm ready for and my stepmother will as well. While, that makes horse shopping take significantly longer - it's also not putting myself or any animal that I buy at risk for failure or injury. So many people just want to tell you how amazing horse ownership is, and it's really important to surround yourself with people who will tell you the realities or horsemanship. I'm very lucky, I hope Day by Day can find those people too.
At the barn I used to work at, I took lessons from this girl. This girl was seen as the trainer at the barn so she was the one everyone went to. Honestly I was never impressed with her training with horses or people. She threatened to push me off a couple of times and was really hard on her horses to a point she wouldn't even allow the horse to walk beside her but like four feet behind her. Which was a really weird thing at that barn was even older riders would correct you on how you lead the horses, saying it was dangerous to have them beside you but logically it was more dangerous to have them behind you. Any way this girl also threw me in with a green horse, not riding but lunging. Of course I was still new with it and the horse was really high energy and kept turning its shoulder into me after a while of her getting frustrated with me she took the lead and of course she went ham. I was still in the round pin and once the horse turned towards me that's when she told me to get out. If you couldn't tell she was a Clint Anderson fan, after a couple more lessons she didn't contact me anymore on the dates for the lessons and I haven't went back there since.
My parents bought a green horse and were beginners, but they just did and we have the horse since then, he is 15 rn. But we got help we had so good trainers, that helped us and wie learned together, my trainer that trained him for us as he was young, is an A trainer and German champion.
My trainer suggested I get a 4year old off the track thoroughbred because I was at a point that that’s the next step and Dev was my first owned horse. It’s a wonderful experience but one thing that I can’t praise my trainer enough for is she recommended a more advanced trainer to work with Dev and i through the long process of training and conditioning a 4 year old OTTB. I had 2 trainers. It literally takes a year to two years to develop a horse the right way before even trying to jump them. It’s a long road I wish the best for them I just hope they take time to do research, take things slow and really get your basics down. If you as a rider don’t have a solid base, your horse can’t learn and work off the consistency they need.
If I could talk to this lady my advice would be, to turn the TB out and forget it for a good 6 mths. Whilst it out send the daughter to a local trainer that has a suitable mount for her. Make a mummy and daughter pack to get healthier and fit for when the TB comes back in. I would be searching for a rebreaker experienced in OTTB to take the horse for 6 wks yraining. When it comes back get a place for the horse and your daughter in a barn that offers experienced lessen trainers ideally. But if money is an issue bring horse home invest ibn a round yard and lessens 3 times a week for your daughter and the TB. That or just sell it now and try again.
@@alexjohnson611 tbf, not every horse needs a job. As much as I disagree with a lot of things they do I do not get the hate for having the ponies. They’re happy, get looked after, there’s nothing to be concerned about. They don’t need to be ridden or be worked, and as long as they can afford to and actually keep looking after them, they’re harmless. And really, it’s quite nice to see ponies be able to live a life in a field (well I know they don’t really use the fields at home for them lol).
@@leahheapp the ponies don't live in a field . They live in a tiny arena with a little mud pit outside. They are only allowed in the field an hour per day and Laura has her crazy excuse.
@@coffeeandhorses7991 You are incorrect these people do let their ponies graze in their outdoor pastures and there are many videos showing that . Secondly horses don't all have to be working it is fine to have horses retired just enjoying being horses what do you think wild Mustangs do they don't work and most live quiet happily enjoying being free without human intervention.
Knowledgeable horse is such a blessing for green rider. Horses that gave me the most impact as rider on me was 20 and two 22 years old. One was 12 years old. But he was special because he had trauma as a foal and required me to use me and my tools differently. Which was really special and I loved to have different angle on everything. Such a shame, someone can miss how wonderful experience it is for a new rider riding on experienced horse
I started out Intermediate when i got my 100% green 5 Year old horse, He'd spook at anything. When i picked my father's mare's hooves and put it down, He'd even spook at that. It wasn't a smart choice to get such a young horse as my first, but i went to multiple trainers, and I'm ready for him now. Defiantly not something i would recommend a kid do though. Thank you Raleigh for helping them. i just hope one day they'll use this info.
I don't think the parents are really trying honestly. If they were they would listen to peoples advice and not be so defensive. Seems like the mom wants to live her life through her daughter.
Horse and Country's Masterclasses and Back to Basics have been super helpful for me in working on my riding. The two best things I've done for my riding are watching a lot of good quality videos (brain injury so I only understand by seeing) and getting a yoga ball so I can work on my core and positioning even when I'm not at the barn.
Trainers definitely make a difference and on young horses! I bought my boy as a 4 year old and was unconfident myself. I got stuck for a few years and didn’t move past a walk/slow jog. In the last 6 months I’ve found an amazing trainer and we are now learning to canter and do small jumps 😍 worth her weight in gold
I agree that the instructor and the one they just stopped working with at this barn, are very much at fault and not always doing what is best. I have never seen a good instructor NOT put a student on the longe line for lessons when they clearly have position and balance issues (this goes all the way back to when they first moved to the barn with the last female instructor). I have also noticed that instructor added in their current instructor when they newly bought Stella and the female instructor was having a lot of mounted issues when the girls were riding her and the female instructor could not ride or train Stella herself for the family. There were many times when the instructors had advised something (the purchase of a new horse) and it directly benefited them because it meant more money for board and lessons. I think just about every horse so far except the 1st lease horse (Sabrina) did not or has not quite worked out in the way the instructor said they would for what they wanted to do with the horse. When they naught Storm, the instructor told them that it would take her 2 months to get Storm to be where he needed to be for huntersor at least jumping well. That was a huge red flag and there are just so many more with the quality of education and teaching in the lessons. If you look back at both girls in their riding positions when they used to ride at the other barn before Fiona, you can see a drastic difference in everything position, alignment and balance. Since working more with Brandon, Gabby has become extremely crooked and twisted in her body and Sofia has not had the chance in well over a year or 2 to ride any horse in 1 saddle the fits her and that is terrible because you are 💯 setting your student up to fail and to fail the horse. I have told them about Schleese Saddlery for years and sent them links to their videos on saddle fitting and I have even sent them into on their new adjustable saddle and how they work all over their area of Canada.
Completely off topic lol, but I was taking private lessons at a barn and my lesson coach would just have me walk around. it was like that for months. My younger sister went there too but my coach didn’t show any interest in helping us progress and it was extremely obvious, i’m unsure if it was because she is still a minor but it wasn’t fun. After a year of trying to find a good barn i finally found one! i’ve been riding for a few months there and I’m working on perfecting my trot and canter! ❤️❤️
I totally agree with you. When you buy a horse you not only invest your money in it but you also invest interest, It is not just about buying a horse and letting someone else work with it, it is about the rider being interested in that process since it is YOUR HORSE. I have had my own horse for three years and today I can say for sure that that horse and I have come further than I thought I could. I love your videos and always learn a lot from them, keep on going 💞
I totally agree with what you are saying. I don’t think they truly understand how much work it is actually going to take to school a young, inexperienced horse. A new, experienced trainer will be so much better for Sophie.
Yup. And look how many breaks Sophie needs to rest in a lesson!. Its ridiculous. She does not push herself. How would she be able to train a horse when physically she can only do the bare minimum. She is extremely out of shape. She should have a western horse and just enjoy trail riding. Her competing is a joke. As soon She is slightly tired she stops and sits the middle of the area to watch!.
Their "trainer" isn't about to tell them anything they don't want to hear. He doesn't want to kill the cash cow.
I know right. But at this point, it’s super scary to because they are toying with their safety, and horses safety 😒
Not to mention chance was their trainers horse so to say he just wanted money I'd have to agree especially sense he most likely had better horses for sofie as he has good school masters but no giver her the 5 year old tb
the cash cow being their daughter LMAO
💯 right!!! Plus the mom is more interested in fame than taking any advice from anybody that might know more than her! If you watch their videos all she does is continuously try to convince viewers of how calm Chance is.
@@ggdd4727 he literally sells horses like every week, if you look at his business FB it’s a LOT of sale horses.
I use to ride at the same barn as them with Fiona as my coach. Laura is actually crazy and didn't take no for an answer. She's hard to get through to and thinks her daughter is an Olympic rider and trainer. She even asked me if I wanted Gabby to ride my OTTB and see if she could fix some of his behavior problems (he was four fresh off the track and head shy so I wasn't even riding him myself at that point) They would be in the arena constantly when I was working him vlogging and taking up the whole ring so I was limited to what I could actually do as I didn't trust their horses. In the end I ended up switching barns and was better off for it. Found a better coach and my horse settled nicely.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience of knowing them. They seem to fall out with a lot of people in real life very quickly.Recently someone commented that they owned a lesson horse that they leased to Fiona, and they didn't even realise that dbd were putting videos of it on here every time the girls rode it, and they were making comments and constantly giving their uneducated opinions about him. Not that the horse cared of course, lol. But the young lady said that they weren't even considering the fact that he was up for sale at the time.
Thank you also for sharing your experience with them. I know I wouldn't get along with Laura. She is to brassy and bold, not only a know it all. I couldn't believe I heard her say she didn't know what a block barn was and she has one. Cement blocks made into stalls...wow that took me back. Now they are doing their own hay.....this should be good. Ya know Laura is going to boss Sam around.
Personally if I had a daughter taking lessons at that barn and I saw Laura video taping and shooting her mouth and laughing. I would be looking for a new barn no matter how far I had to travel. How can your child learn anything with that distraction. I can't imagine they have too many friends.
how is fiona as a coach if you dont mind me asking?
@maidget mafia she was a no bullshit coach and I respected her for that. However as I developed more I needed a different kind of coach one who had experimce with OTTBs Fiona didn't let Laura walk all over her though which is why I think ultimately they left
Which vlogs are you in?.
Laura doesn't take advice. She sees you as a "hateful person" and anyone who gives advice is a "hater". And then deletes their comments. Her maturity level is low.
I am so over their persona of the victim. They are too close minded to be on the internet. It shows their ignorance.
💯, Laura is a narc and any comment that doesn’t suit her narrative gets deleted and then blocked
@@alanahgiltmier4362 I agree. People are just trying to help their daughter along her journey as a rider and she keeps pushing them away. It isn't about them; it's about their children and their potential to grow and learn at the hands of a trainer that understands what they're doing. She could be a great rider if they would open up to new ideas and recommendations.
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You can tell this at the very first, even the video titles are childish
Also a huge problem is Laura being at every lesson to “record”. She’s constantly contradicting the instructors when it comes to Sophie. Which is why Sophie is not a good rider despite riding for YEARSSSS. Their trainer Fiona was/is trash. I liked Brandon, but I think he needs to tell Laura she can not talk or interfere with lessons. Sophie constantly whines and complains and will literally say she’s not jumping a certain jump if Brandon tells her too. And Laura ALLOWS Sophie to do this. Part of getting better at anything is pushing through the stuff that makes you uncomfortable. But Laura does not instill confidence in Sophie, more so panders to her being “scared”.
I watched the video of Sophie riding Finn on their test ride, and she legit cried. Red flag that clearly she was never ready for that pony. It’s extremely embarrassing that at this point, the Trainers are using them as a money grab. Laura saying that Sophie is a new young rider is just not true anymore. There’s no hiding anymore her lack of skills and progression in riding. Oh and in one of their vlogs with Chance, they mention how they had never lunged a horse before!! Are you fucking kidding me? I started lessons on a lunge line, and learning to lunge was a foundational concept.
Brandans lessons used to be very active, he was constantly providing feedback and asking for more. Laura would always step in and say "no she needs to it this way, you need to teach her this way, oh well I thought she did this well". For his faults I think he does have knowledge and did try to share it but it wasn't shutdown and Sophie isn't really a driven student. Instead of dropping them like he should he's gone pretty quiet, partly for the steady pay and partly I think because he enjoys working with Gabby.
Laura is and continues to be their problem.
@@jrmints80 I agree 100%. I don’t blame him for giving up on Sophie. Can’t be a good trainer when you have a parent who doesn’t know jack shit being a backseat driver.
I agree even if luara wants to record she can do so OUTSIDE of the arena (where she has no say of what's going on) and she would still get beautiful videos.
This! The barn I used to be at the parents HAD to stay in the room overlooking the arena with glass, so the parents couldn’t speak or interfere with the lesson!
That bottom comment about they'd never lunged a horse is not true, it doesn't take looking through many of their videos to see that, I believe they said they were simply lunging him so they both got better at it 🤷♀️ that comment is definitely not true
Yes!! A new trainer would fix so many of their issues. If everyone in your comment section is telling you something is wrong, something is most likely wrong!!!
I think that day by day just needs to try taking people's advise. I think it would help them and their animals
I wouldn't hold your breath on that. Laura is getting more defensive over time unless everyone agrees with her. Her solution is to delete, delete,delete and pretend it's not happening.
They never will, if the advice doesn’t suit their narrative your comment gets deleted and you get blocked
The sad thing is, there are SO many people who are this inexperienced also giving advice. They don't know who is truthworthy and who is not because they don't know any better.
@@rmfan2092 Daybyday just don't want to hear the truth either way
If one person says it I'd ignore it. 3 thousand is a very different situation
Part of the issue is Brandan used to try to teach them, Laura made excuses. Now he just says "thats ok" because he's given up, in my opinion he should drop them.
But when they did a clinic with an instructor where Laura couldn't intervene they felt it was mean and haven't done anything since.
Laura knows this horse is too small. She knows Sophie isn't knowledgeable enough, she's admitted these things if you happen to catch the right video, then the next she goes back to doubling down.
I disagree, they aren't trying.
Laura needs to stay outta lessons and let Instructor teach but they need a new one. But I think most in their area know who they are and clearly want nothing to do with them. I think this maybe their last barn. Fiona even dropped them.
@@keri...wanderingincircles5170 yup, and Fiona is terrible herself but even she got out of dodge.
@@jrmints80 ohhhhh absolutely!! That woman was just a crazy as laura..
I think Laura gets so involved in the barn and lessons that no trainer will touch the kids now. They have no other option but branden.
Sophie clearly never listens in lessons, running to mom every time she's tired or wants mom to tell trainer to leave her alone.
Gabby at least goes out and rides without saying or crying when things get tough.
I definitely agree. Growing up I had a trainer that was “mean” and there were many times as a kid she made me wanna cry or feel really bad but I never gave in. And after getting older I realized how much she helped me and pushed me in the right direction making me a better rider and she’s still one of the best trainers I’ve ever had.
@@tiimbit_7398 i had a trainer that didn't want you telling her excuses.. and if you didn't pay attention she got you off your horse and your lesson was over. Then you just watched others.
She said, I'm not paid to be your friend 1st.. I'm your trainer. Out of ring we will laugh and talk.
Parents were not allowed in ring.
And if you kept acting dumb in lessons you got pulled from showing
I recommended Warwick Shiller years ago with the first lease horse and they didn't care. They want to do it easy so I wouldn't say don't blame the parents, this is the path they have chosen, others have recommended they find more experienced trainers and they didn't care. Gabby even went on a weekend training camp with a proper trainer and she hated it because it was to much work.
I honestly have never met anyone whom would choose to stay with such and inexperienced trainer. Everyone I know would move on to a trainer that would improve their riding and horsemanship.
Vanessa. They don't care. This is as far as these girls are going to go. I hear Brandon say good Sophie and her posture and hands are all over. What kind of trainer ignores that.
They are happy doing what they are doing and honestly don't want to work to do better. I thought Gabby could be an excellent rider, but after her clinic I said to myself instead of listening and learning. She hated it cause the trainer kept correcting her.
She is still doing the same, so she doesn't want or have the desire to improve, cause she thinks she is the best. Yes keep going to Trillium in front of professional judges and see why you don't get in the ribbons.
These people are who they are, never going to change. So it will be what it is. But I surely do not want to contribute to them making a dime.
I love Warwick Schiller! His videos have helped me when I get stuck with my rescue horse because he thinks he can plow into me with his shoulders.
At my barn, the barn owner is a lesson instructor and she says it is either her way or the highway. She is from the classical french dressage times and will not listen to anybody else. Her great idea to me was to put a stud chain on my horse to make him listen to me and show him who is boss. I told her "hell no". My horse is terrified of fly spray and he is getting bettet every time we work. He needs time. And I have time, she doesn't.
Even kailey hated the clinic bc “trainer was rude”
@@sharontalaga5924 I agree with everything you said!
I love Warwick Schiller too, his videos helped me fix my lease gelding’s spooking and bolting problem.
I feel like Sophie isn't a horse person. She is a girl liking horses and have a animal collector as a mom but I don't get the feeling that Sophie have a genuine intrerest in learning about horses. To do classes, clinics, read, learn etc. She just want a pretty horse to drive around on without the effort or riding.
This should be pinned. Sophie is already showing signs of being a hoarder. Her 100's of saddles, toy horses, fidgety toys . Sadly bc she is home schooled by Laura she has lost out on so many experiences.
I agree. It appears the older sibling is a horse person and the parents just looped Sophie in for ease. She wants to be able to jump and do the things her sister can, but isn’t willing to do the work. And her parents telling her she can, when she cannot, isn’t doing her any favours
I think another good point here that not only applies to their situtation but many is... more advanced or professional riders who are genuinely excellent horseman did not get to the "top" by using 1 single trainer. They take lessons and are advised by several different instructors throughout their life. So, while being loyal to one trainer is nice, branching out and seeking suggestions from other knowledgable equestrians who teach differently/focus on different aspects is HIGHLY beneficial to ALL riders. No one person is great at every aspect of riding. Plus, this would allow them to continue their loyalty with the current trainer. As well as help both horse and rider by getting input from a fresh set of eyes.
Sophie clearly needs a particular teaching style. I wonder if she has a learn disability?. No matter how much time passes she rides pretty much the same as when she was 8.
@@coffeeandhorses7991It would also explain why she seems to have trouble forming her speech sounds to the level that my captions generator can pick up on. And the fact that Laura repeats after her every single word she says. So she must know that she could do with some help, before Sophie becomes more self conscious about it.
Good advice, as usual! I really don’t like this trainer they have. First, he let Sophie jump a lame pony, then he matched her with a horse that is way out of her range at this point and time. It upsets me because there are SO many amazing schoolmasters at age 15+ that are being offered for sale with plenty of years left and the wisdom to help her learn to make the right decisions. Yet, so much of the time, they get overlooked and sent to slaughter. It breaks my heart. But I also think people judging the family need to have some compassion and you’re right to call it out. We have all made unwise decisions when it comes to horses. My first horse never had a PPE. I didn’t even know that was a thing! But once you know better, you do better. At least that’s what I hope for these folks.
i have a 15+ schoolmaster mare that was going to be slaughter. she was head shy and nervous of people. when i first saw her i fell in love and went out in the field even though everyone said that she would not come to me. After 5 mins she put her nose in my hands and then walked away, i walked along sige matching her footsteps. i bought her and have spend a year just spending time with her in the field and on firework night spending the night with her in the field . I am now her rock and i have just started riding her bareback as we are waiting for the saddle fitter as she is a weird shape and i want everything comfortable for her, she has scaring on her face where a flyhood or halter has cut in but she is not head shy anymore and has a great sense of fun. older horses for the win.
While I totally agree with you, sadly the mom sees anyone's advice that is constructive as hate and deletes and blocks.
She thinks she's just right and makes excuses instead of really seeing the entire picture and that her daughter really needs to step back in training and go back to basics with a schoolmaster.
💯, Laura is a narc and anything/anyone that doesn’t go with their narrative gets comments deleted and then blocked. They will not do the right thing when it comes to Chance until Sophie gets hurt…even then I doubt they’d do the right thing, they’d probably bit him up like they did with Finn
@@mysticcreations-e5l yup.. I've been blocked from comments cause I told her that branden wasn't the trainer she needed for Sophie. How can a kid be on wrong diagonal for 5 laps and he not say anything, the school master horse runs out at jumps and he says, " that's OK Sophie, just steer him"
This won't end well with chance when by accident Sophie finds chances, GO button and he goes into race mode.
@@keri...wanderingincircles5170 I agree 100%, Sophie is only going to end up hurt and she’ll go back to square one once again. Sophie in yesterday’s video already didn’t seem enthused by the thought of riding Chance in the lesson when she thought she was riding Denver, so Sophie is more than likely getting afraid already. But they will keep getting her green horses instead of a schoolmaster that she needs 🙄
@@mysticcreations-e5l I noticed that also. She can barely keep herself balanced then she's hoping he'll keep trotting but she's not really using any leg. She's always been a passenger rider, and I really don't think that will change.
You see it when she rides Denver they that small gymnastics and he ducks out every time. She's got no leg. No steering and then almost falls off. She does bare minimum as a rider and mom praises her and trainer just let's her go. Then you hear Laura say, she's always reserve champion... yup outta 3 riders in cross rails after 3 yrs of showing.. no hate but she's not progressing as a rider. She's just managing to not fall off as much and not get hurt
@@keri...wanderingincircles5170 sophie was just in a show and won....against what looked to be 8 yr olds. The competition is fierce !. Just goes to show she treated more like an 8 yr old then a 12/13 yr old. Truly embarrassing how far behind Sophie is. But that has everything to do with Laura.
Then there are the videos where Laura says to Sophie "people will judge you and say you're too big", mom of the freaking year. And thats her fault too.
Laura the “super mum” right there 🙄💀
Exactly! Sophie's NOT too big, that's NOT the problem, and Laura telling her daughter that is only going to hurt her
Laura fat shaming their horses in almost every video too - constantly calling them ‘fat’ or ‘chubby’.
It was bad enough telling her people had commented on her weight already, but even worse to be saying that about her when nobody had actually commented it!
@@queenofhearts6127 yup! "I love a chubby horse butt!". Does Laura not see how gross that sounds ? . Like keep fetish off of your youtube channel! Lol
anybody else just have too many thoughts and feelings they don't even want to type it all out 😂 overall, I just want Sophie to be happy and safe at the end of the day.
Hey Lex, why don’t you try just speaking into the microphone? You could go on for days.....
as you were talking about how committed and hardworking you used to be about training Link and yourself, saying that you really need to be pushing and putting in the hard yards to get progress, i was trying to imagine Sophie doing this with Chance and i JUST CANT! she is not a motivated rider, she doesn’t have the drive to do what it takes to get where she “wants” to get.
Agree. Even in the vlog where she is supposed to be helping you see her standing doing nothing. If she actually went to public school they would seriously have to put her in with the grades twos!. She would love it.
She has been riding for... 7 or 8 years now? And cannot ask for canter transition correctly, cannot post the trot properly, and they think she is ready for an OTTB.... really bad parenting for constantly putting this kid in unsafe situations and shame on the trainer for suggesting such a green prospect for a nervous unbalanced rider.
We need more people like you that genuinely care and support for your fellow equestrians ❤️
Love Raleigh's resting face 😅😬😁😁😁💛
And for the record: I really dont understand why - in this stage - they dont have proper trainer... I would understand, if they were new to riding industry, but after all of what happened and what have been told... I dont get it! So thank you for this 🙏🤩
I’m 15 and work with a rescue ottb. She’s not mine but im the only one that does anything with her. It’s been three years and I have been doing ground work for those three years with the occasional pop on and just walk. I feel like that’s a good starting point, basic ground work and light rides
Thanks for the resources. I’m going to look into them. I have been riding for close to 20 years, but I still think I may take my 4 year old gelding to a barn with a riding instructor for a couple of months so that they can help me train and see things that I don’t see. He’s also a very chill horse but he is just a baby. I have been blessed to be naturally able to get horses to do what I want, but imo it is always good to have multiple resources on how to do things with horses. But I also understand that there are a lot of dumb and conflicting comments on the internet, so I understand why the family is hesitant to listen to all of them.
About 6-7 months ago I was in the same situation as Sophie, my old trainer was pushing a lease on me since they bought one of their boarders horses to use as a money deposit, and when I told her I was interested in boarding my sisters TWH, she got attitude w me and then treated me like shit at lessons and I ended up changing barns and I've learned more at this barn in 5 months than the other in 2 years. Having a trustworthy trainer MATTERS! I've been taking lessons for 3 years and I have been searching for a horse for 2, it takes time to find out what you want to do with riding and it takes even more time to find a horse that's a fit for you.
I love how she gives advice and points out things that can be better in riding/horse care and just trys to help inform more people about horses❤️❤️❤️
I don't think Sophie should own a horse. I think she should stick to beginner lesson horses until she can move up to something more advanced. Or at least own an ex-lesson horse that can teach her the basics and move her up the levels.
I can’t wait to watch this!! Thank you for pointing out the irresponsible actions of the DayByDay channel. Hopefully they’ll be more open to advice and criticism in the future
Some other advice to give them.
Whatever horse Sophie has, she needs to also just spend time with it. Ground training is 24/7. How you interact on the ground with your horse, tells the horse a LOT about you.
A lot of workers at my barn are 13-16 years old. They work to pay for training, lessons, board, etc. and they'll either get payed half, half get kept for training or something, so full will go for something like training
I’m sure that their trainer has a financial motive to get them to take that thoroughbred. It’s clear his judgement is clouded by money. I know this because I’ve been a victim of this exact situation, someone that I trusted in the equestrian community as a lifelong horse owner, rider, and even rodeo queen. That horse put me in the hospital with a concussion. I couldn’t remember the last 2 years of my life for hours. She had a financial incentive to give me a horse that was dangerous, and rinsed her hands free of the situation. I was the one to suffer the price, I should’ve known better, but I trusted this person. They do not deserve to be in this situation.
To be fair to their trainer, having a parent in the middle of the arena with them while teaching takes away from his authority. I don’t why he allows it but it can’t be good. The kids fall back on their parent if they are being pressured to do something they think they can’t do. It just undermines everything. 🤔
Because laura keeps saying" No, Sophie needs it taught this way" Brandon is a good trainer its just laura does not allow him to teach the right way
Love you Raleigh and thank you for giving them sound and excellent advice. Even though your advice is spot on, it will be on deaf ears. They are stubborn people, they are going to do what they want. Advice from you and others go over Laura's head. She will only listen till something truly bad happens to Sophie and maybe not even then. I agree she needs a different trainer and so does her horse. They have the money obviously so that is not the problem.
The problem is taking responsibility for their daughter.
But everyone is pointing out the problems with the instructor....and Laura won't listen to 1,000s of subscribers.
I wonder if this might be a case of "Sunk Cost Fallacy": the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial. It's not just money either; the investment might be in admiration or belief. It could be that they're invested in their trainer, ie they really like him, he says things that seem to make sense and they've had him for a long time. So, they don't want to let go. Among other things, it would be admitting they were wrong and that's a hard thing for many of us.
This is very true. And definitely applies to them. They use too much “heart” instead of “head”.
I just think that Laura's personality would be too tricky for any other trainer's to cope with. It shouldn't even be about her at all , but there's no escaping the fact that it is. Brandon is young, laid back and Laura likes to say he's eye candy. He gets the lesson money and probably extra for riding Sophie's horse, and Laura stays happy with the status quo.
I think Laura displays classic narcissistic traits. Not trying to diagnose anyone though.
@@queenofhearts6127 I totally agree!
I am sure what you said is true, Michelle, but I also think Laura has no common sense and apparently, does not mind embarrassing both herself and her children.
This style and concept of video is probably one of my favorites you’ve put out ever! I’ve been subscribed and watching for literally 3 years. I have been craving information like this to learn how to better train my horse on a budget but not knowing where to look.
Raleigh this was a great video. You gave advice backed by your personal experience that will help any inexperienced rider. And your point about finding a trainer to fit both the riders level and the horses is spot on.
This video was so spot on! I got a green horse two years ago and I was an intermediate rider who gad been on and off riding for 4 years, obviously I had never trained a horse before and I took him to a professional. Since then I have learned the proper techniques and am currently taking lessons on how to keep him framed up right. He is doing phenomenal and is my special heart horse, never planning to sell him❤… thank you for elaborating on this you have really helped me to solidify my confidence that I made a good decision
I think an aspect of this you missed is that the more you give Laura sound advice and clear direction on how to improve, the more she resists and makes videos trying to prove you wrong. So, we should be seeing extra footage of how "great" Sophie rides this horse for the next week and extra talk about how great her “team of professionals” are.
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@@mysticcreations-e5l Laura will be holding up the books they read to learn horsemanship. The Black Stallion, Misty of Chincoteague, My Little Pony and now Seabiscuit.
Right,.Laura will hear that they need a "more advanced instructor" as "Sophie is advanced", thats how Laura's brain works. The only way to change things is to call them out on their behavior and hit them in the ego, ie the views, Laura lives to be able to say she has all of these "fans". That's the priority to them.
@@jrmints80 Raleigh seems to be in stage 2 of attempting to help. It’s where you try to word things so there is no way they can be interpreted as hate. Stage 3 is rephrasing/arguing your point in a different (non-threatening way) and finally stage 4, otherwise known as fuck it.
@@TheCrabbyCake she should go back to what worked and got Finn in a better situation finally.
Hi! Just wanna say I love your videos and I always find then so important and informative and you've opened up eyes to alot of things in the equestrian world and I'm happy to be apart of this community
Hey Raleigh! There are two topics I wish you would talk about, these are “horse diving” which is basically jumping horses from big heights into water, and foal racing which is just… it would be so nice if you would share your opinion about these!
Hey Raleigh! Thank you for taking time out of your day to spill your advice! It’s helping me learn more ❤️
Laura admitted in a video to just letting things happen and then addressing them. She chooses not to be proactive which potentially will harm Sophie or chance. She has the money for trainers yet hires the bare minimum and then crosses her fingers. I dont think she's mean or malicious, but at some point she needs to really do some soul searching and confront her need to be correct over proactive research. She could really use some problem solving skills and be open to experiment with new ideas. A solid groundwork foundation would improve their horsemanship immensely. Hopefully they move on from brandan soon.
I once mentioned that it was cool that Laura could design homeschool lessons to help learn about the horses, but don't think they decided to do that. I 100% agree with you and hope they take your advice.
I'm so happy you showed Warwick Schiller, he's absolutely awesome ❤
Raleigh Rules😝😎 we need more people like her! Greetings from Germany!
I honestly don’t think Sophie is a horse person. From everything I’ve seen (which, to be fair, is relatively limited) she seems like she wants to own and ride a horse but has little interest in learning about her horse and how to become a better rider for them. Almost like those people who have have kids just to say they’re a mom/dad but don’t really have an interest in them.
I've also been in a situation where I was 13 and I was just starting to ride a completely green horse. My grandpa bought me a weaned foal (3 years before) and I was starting together with her. I know and fully agree it's not a good idea, but I've been lucky to work things out and both of us learnt together. She's now a sweet horse that is calm and listens well to commands while I'm I'd say an intermediate rider who works part-time on a farm (walking clients, lunging, hall training etc.) I've never had a real trainer, but I've searched a lot of information and listened to advice from people who knew more than me. I'd definitely not recommend a young horse for a beginner rider, but as you said it's something that you can work with with enough effort and correct guidance.
Thank you so much for Raleigh for this. My horse is not fresh but I was lied to do about his training and I can't afford very expensive trainers for him. A lot of things I do by myself
My mum was my biggest critic and biggest advocate. When I lost all my confidence at 12. After 4/5 years of riding. I had to start from scratch. Thank god. Because I needed it. I would have stand up arguments with my trainer/mum when I was terrified. But they wouldn't give up nor give in. And it taught me so many life lessons. I'm ever grateful.
They need to realise that learning to ride isn’t sunshine and rainbows. It can be hard work but it’s worth it if you’re willing to work for it!
I used to work at a dressage stables and while working there I started taking dressage seriously. I had two of the strictest instructors. They were on at me and you know what, I improved so much and I thank them for it.
also my parents dropped me off at the stables as a kid and left me there and weren’t stood in the middle while I was being taught. I think Laura needs to step back a bit and let a *good* trainer do their job!
I appreciate you making this video. I love how you have the ability to accept that you didnt get your point across, and you made a different video to fix your mistake.
Yes
I have no hate towards this family, I think they just need to listen to people's advice more. Btw I love your videos 🥰
I admire your attitude it's the way people should rightly address these kinds of situations .🌝☺️
@@kyliewilson2280 thank you 😊
Even if Day By Day doesn't listen to a thing in this video, I can't express how much this helped me.
I am very very new to horses, despite adoring them as a child and admiring them throughout my life. I'm behind on the curve when it seems like every equestrian started riding at, like 5 or 8 or 13.
Im still going to try and find a good trainer for the basics, as I don't want to screw up my fundamentals and I can't get a horse at this point in my life. I still want to learn and be around them.
It gives me some comfort that I have non-trainer resources as I'm also not financially steady (I'm in college rn). Thank you very much.
My trainer sold me a horse way to hot for me about a year ago. I am lucky that I learned how to handle him quickly, but he still did step on my foot and almost broke it. Be careful guys, I’m lucky I learned how to handle hot horses.
When I started to learn to ride my mother went all out in protective riding gear I even had a riding vest. She would always watch on the sidelines and record me or take photos just to make memories. Where I ride I’m a huge fan of being lunged it shows me where I need to improve. I have done vaulting with a older lesson horse it really helped me to learn more about my position
I was leasing a 18 year old Q-h for his last show season {Not his last time being ridden at all!} which he was being partially leased and ridden twice a week once by me once by the other little girl. We signed up for 4-h to just have fun and let him have fun his last show days. Unfortunately, we were told we "Couldn't show him in two counties." which was really stressful because we wanted to go aswell, We found chippy, a green broke 7 year old 17.2hh tb gelding. Now, Ive worked with green horses before so we bought him as a fun project. after we got him he was a sweetheart but the issue was he has never really been anywhere other than his og home. When we got chippy one of our first rides wasnt the best, He bucked me off twice but after each time I got bucked off I walked him over to where he was scared. Chippy did end up breaking my hand but I still decided to keep him, It took alot of groundwork for him to be "okay" for show. Now the last issue I have is someone was using a crop in our english-pleasure class and we were doing well and Im still super proud of him but, The person was going past us because there horse was "acting out" but, when there horse stopped next to chippy they repeatedly whipped there horse and whipped chippy on accident also hitting his flank now we didnt really desensitize his flank because I know where my legs are in the saddle. He reared up and I managed to stay on, Once he landed I preformed an emergency dismount and went to the middle of the arena petting him and re-assuring him. If a tb recently got off the track a beginner cant handle one its very difficult even for experienced riders because the horses dont know any better. Green Horses dont know any better.
I would actually love to see a collab between Raleigh and Day by Day to see how Sophie could progress as a rider.
Hey Raleigh thank you for making these videos you always put a smile on my face and make a bad day seem better x
Thank you for showing us trainers to learn from. I'm a beginner and it's important for me to see who treats the horses the right way. And I like that it brings some positiveness to your channel ☺️ Greetings from Europe!
They don't seem to be capable of handling critique and if you can't handle that, you can't learn to ride well. You have to be able to take what a trainer has to say and apply it.
Sorry Raleigh. they threatened to sue you for respectfully calling attention to some rather dangerous and irresponsible errors in judgement. I can't agree with you that they care a whole lot, especially since, as you've mentioned yourself, their content appears, even if not reckless, at least highly exploitative. I think they've made it clear they will view constructive criticism as a threat to their livelihood and that of their channel. Imho, might be time to just move on from the Day by Day saga.
Wait! They are trying to sue again ??. Strange that the daybyday channel has gone radio silence.
@@coffeeandhorses7991 They don't have a leg to stand on let them try once the judge sees the videos he / she will throw the case out .
Raleigh!! Iv been volunteering at a barn, grooming the horses and doing turn outs, it's been 3 weeks and iv learned SO much, I have started taking riding lessons to, the trainer had me ride a vary experienced horse with just a bareback pad, she said once I can balance myself and learn to move with the horse I can move up to a saddle, I learned so much in just an hour of riding! I have been working with my favorite horse, Red, because he has a fear of the stall mats, I copied exactly what you did with link and his fear of the trailer, the first time it took me an hour just to get him to touch the stall mat with the front of his foot the first time, but it only took me 15mins the second time. Thank you for everything you do!
That's great! I hope you have the best time and learn so much!✨
Omg it makes me so happy that she’s talking about Horseworldtv because I love Matt and Jesse so much.
As good as this advice is I wouldn’t waste any more of your time on this family.
Laura knows best and that won’t change any time soon.
dude im so early, i love ur vids! i love how u educate people. your so pretty btw, ive been watching you for years!!!!
OMG SHE LIKED MY COMMENTTTTTTTT🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Almost all of my experience is ground work. I was hired a couple years ago to get green horses ready for the saddle & learning desensitization & stuff. But, being as tall & as overweight as I am, not too many horses can carry me, so I mainly stuck to ground work. I hope to start up again soon (I was diagnosed with cancer in December & haven't done anything since) But, I've found someone with a big boi that I will be starting on for the first time since I was a kid & Im super existed!!
So glad to hear that everything is working out for you now.
But Raleigh, so many experienced horse people have told Laura over and over about the bad advice they are getting from their trainer and she ignores all the advice, so after all this, most people blame Laura because she makes excuses and always thinks she knows what is best.
wish this video was around like 6 years ago when I went through something like this. Loved it
At this point, you could probably make an entire playlist of day by day videos
Ur so nice and u care so much for horses I love it. Your legit amazing. I’ve started to realise horses are horses and if there not happy then listen to them. If a horse doesn’t work I domt walk away because I want to give my all to make it work. Had my Irish sports horse 16.2h for 10 years now and it completely took 5 years to sort him out. Never gave up and so glad I never got rid of him because he’s got the sweetest heart for such a big horse. Unfortunately he got arthritis from the dealer who sold him to us as they abused him and mentally drained him. I then got a 14.1 mare and she was so good, she unfortunately died a few years later of laminitis. I then got a 11,2 gelding and unfortunately he was dangerous. He threw me as a 6 year old girl into a truck window screen. He would rear whenever he wanted to, chase u out the field no matter how bonded you are. On a hack he would throw me in ditches and all of that. So we sold him back as he was nasty and made me loose a lot of my confidence. I then got a 12.2 and was a big regret but we tried and tried. He wasn’t the best of ponies but I taught him and he taught me. All he knew was Flatwork and he was 11 years old going on 12. He was a nightmare. Absolutely terrified on machinery, salt boxes, speed bumps , water, horsetrailer, horselorry and horse box and a lot more. Now he is 17 and legit the spiciest but sweetest boy ever. Hard to believe I was 7 and was able to fly 1m oxers after a few months of work because he was so willing after being scared of multiple stuff. Honestly he is insane and love him so much. I am now 14 so we have been together for 6 years now ❤
I think what you said about not just letting your trainer do all the work but also learning how they are training your horse is an amazing thing that everyone should be doing. So many people send their horse to a trainer and then just take it back after it's trained and don't even care to learn how they trained them.
I am currently taking riding lessons and I'm going on my 2nd year riding and I am always watching UA-cam videos and getting other people's advice besides just my trainers. YOUR TRAINER CAN NOT MAKE YOU GET BETTER! You are the only person that can put in the work to get better.
I was so happy after watching this video. You have a lot of proactive advice for Sophie and her parents. You have a huge following and I'm glad that you took the time to notice that your prior video might have "inspired" some people to leave negative comments on Day by Days page. I personally don't follow them, and have only viewed the videos that you have posted about. I agree that it seems that Sophie's parents are not knowledgeable about horses, and are trusting their trainer to give them sound advice. I hope they take this video and your advice to seek out more Knowledgeable trainers to assist them in furthering their knowledge and training. I'm glad that they're leasing this horse, however I'm concerned that because this horse is owned by their trainer, they might still get manipulated into believing the horse is a better fit than it may be. Thank you for all you do, and for taking a different approach. BTW, it wasn't the "resting bitch face" as much as the eye rolls for me! 🙄😏😂
I feel like these kids are used to getting what they want and they don’t take no as an answer. You can CLEARLY tell in most of the jumping lessons, Sophie is not ready to jump. It’s either the trainer not being good or Laura interrupting the lessons all the time and taking control on what the kids do. I feel so bad for their animals ….also Laura talks as if she doesn’t know much about horses so your point is valid .
Daybyday should have leased a lot before they went buying tons of horses, because then they could learn more.
Really the only thing I disagree on is them truly trying to do better, anyone that has years of experience that gives them advice that doesn’t suit their narrative gets their comment deleted and then blocked. And I truly believe both Laura and Sam are very ignorant and don’t actually want to listen to reason or logic and Laura 100% won’t listen to this either, it’s just what they do. This video was another good one! 😊, that’s just the only thing I disagree with (P.S in yesterday’s lesson video Chance is already being jumped by Sophie)
@Equus I agree, I call bullshit on Laura’s whole “professional medical team”
Agreed. Their videos were filled with comments about getting Sophie an experienced, sturdy schoolmaster to learn on and they go out and get the kid an untrained, under muscled OTTB.
@Equus Well think about it this way if the horse gets hurt the vet gets business. That’s how he makes money. Whether it be good or bad. Sadly.
@@jwalker2276 I believe this horse will get hurt. His legs are thin and going over jumps higher and higher with an unbalanced rider is a leg injury on a horse. Or even a serious injury to a rider.
I am not fat shaming Sophie. Not all of us have THE PERFECT FIGURE. Sophie should realize herself that she isn't right for this horse. I know Sophie doesn't want to hurt him, but that is what is going to happen. The weight of a jockey and saddle is lighter than Sophie and her saddle. Plus jockeys don't bounce on there backs. I am just saying. Be sensible
@@sharontalaga5924 not gonna be long until Sophie’s weight starts impacting more than just her riding. We all go through a chubby stage growing up but this is getting serious. Should be up to her parents to be encouraging better habits. Harsh reality but its the truth
One of the best advice I have ever heard. Bravo!
I love you so much Raleigh! Thank you for sharing and taking a different approach on this topic. This advice needs to be shared with everyone who wants to buy a horse or train their own animal. I've been retraining my twh for 3 and a half months, he was underweight and needed a lot of topline redevelopment. I've done everything you suggested and have a dressage trainer who taught me groundwork exercises that have made a huge difference in him. He doesn't stumble as much, he is getting more round and less stiff on his right. Slow and steady progress is as expected. We've had 4 rides of verying quality but progress is still being made. He still has a long road to full recovery but Amelia Newcomb Dressage, Your Riding Success, and on my philosophy days Artistic Dressage are all channels I use regularly with your videos. There are about another half dozen I'll randomly watch, occasional twh specific ones too. 🥰 lot of love to you Raleigh!
bro I love your videos. I’m an animal science major/stoner so i love your energy 😂😭
Nice video! Love reaction videos! It’s also great that your being there “trainer” if you know what I mean. ❤️ also it’s gray again that you just helping!!❤️✌🏼hope all is well!! We also need more people like you!! ❤️
That was very positive and encouraging. I felt good watching this.
Excellent tips on watching videos/reading books! There’s so much free information out there that riders can take advantage of.
Totally off topic but Raleigh's makeup lately is so beautiful, she's always beautiful but I can tell how much she enjoys doing her makeup with how amazing the looks have been. I've been a subscriber since she was 14, love to see her turn into the beautiful person she is today ^-^
I only recently started riding (18 mos~) and I'm very lucky to have a stepmother who is very knowledgeable. We've started looking at potentially getting a horse for myself, and I've really figured out how vital it is to have someone have those hard, but necessary conversations regarding what level you are ready for. My trainer is great and will tell me, very straight forward what I'm ready for and my stepmother will as well. While, that makes horse shopping take significantly longer - it's also not putting myself or any animal that I buy at risk for failure or injury. So many people just want to tell you how amazing horse ownership is, and it's really important to surround yourself with people who will tell you the realities or horsemanship. I'm very lucky, I hope Day by Day can find those people too.
At the barn I used to work at, I took lessons from this girl. This girl was seen as the trainer at the barn so she was the one everyone went to. Honestly I was never impressed with her training with horses or people. She threatened to push me off a couple of times and was really hard on her horses to a point she wouldn't even allow the horse to walk beside her but like four feet behind her. Which was a really weird thing at that barn was even older riders would correct you on how you lead the horses, saying it was dangerous to have them beside you but logically it was more dangerous to have them behind you.
Any way this girl also threw me in with a green horse, not riding but lunging. Of course I was still new with it and the horse was really high energy and kept turning its shoulder into me after a while of her getting frustrated with me she took the lead and of course she went ham. I was still in the round pin and once the horse turned towards me that's when she told me to get out.
If you couldn't tell she was a Clint Anderson fan, after a couple more lessons she didn't contact me anymore on the dates for the lessons and I haven't went back there since.
My parents bought a green horse and were beginners, but they just did and we have the horse since then, he is 15 rn. But we got help we had so good trainers, that helped us and wie learned together, my trainer that trained him for us as he was young, is an A trainer and German champion.
My trainer suggested I get a 4year old off the track thoroughbred because I was at a point that that’s the next step and Dev was my first owned horse. It’s a wonderful experience but one thing that I can’t praise my trainer enough for is she recommended a more advanced trainer to work with Dev and i through the long process of training and conditioning a 4 year old OTTB. I had 2 trainers. It literally takes a year to two years to develop a horse the right way before even trying to jump them. It’s a long road I wish the best for them I just hope they take time to do research, take things slow and really get your basics down. If you as a rider don’t have a solid base, your horse can’t learn and work off the consistency they need.
If I could talk to this lady my advice would be, to turn the TB out and forget it for a good 6 mths. Whilst it out send the daughter to a local trainer that has a suitable mount for her. Make a mummy and daughter pack to get healthier and fit for when the TB comes back in. I would be searching for a rebreaker experienced in OTTB to take the horse for 6 wks yraining. When it comes back get a place for the horse and your daughter in a barn that offers experienced lessen trainers ideally. But if money is an issue bring horse home invest ibn a round yard and lessens 3 times a week for your daughter and the TB. That or just sell it now and try again.
Money isn’t an issue bc they keep buying horses that they have nothing to do with like willow
@@alexjohnson611 tbf, not every horse needs a job. As much as I disagree with a lot of things they do I do not get the hate for having the ponies. They’re happy, get looked after, there’s nothing to be concerned about. They don’t need to be ridden or be worked, and as long as they can afford to and actually keep looking after them, they’re harmless. And really, it’s quite nice to see ponies be able to live a life in a field (well I know they don’t really use the fields at home for them lol).
@@leahheapp the ponies don't live in a field . They live in a tiny arena with a little mud pit outside. They are only allowed in the field an hour per day and Laura has her crazy excuse.
@@coffeeandhorses7991 You are incorrect these people do let their ponies graze in their outdoor pastures and there are many videos showing that . Secondly horses don't all have to be working it is fine to have horses retired just enjoying being horses what do you think wild Mustangs do they don't work and most live quiet happily enjoying being free without human intervention.
@@coffeeandhorses7991 I don't know what you have been watching but they do let them graze in the fields they have in the summer months
Knowledgeable horse is such a blessing for green rider. Horses that gave me the most impact as rider on me was 20 and two 22 years old. One was 12 years old. But he was special because he had trauma as a foal and required me to use me and my tools differently. Which was really special and I loved to have different angle on everything.
Such a shame, someone can miss how wonderful experience it is for a new rider riding on experienced horse
I started out Intermediate when i got my 100% green 5 Year old horse, He'd spook at anything. When i picked my father's mare's hooves and put it down, He'd even spook at that. It wasn't a smart choice to get such a young horse as my first, but i went to multiple trainers, and I'm ready for him now. Defiantly not something i would recommend a kid do though. Thank you Raleigh for helping them. i just hope one day they'll use this info.
Idk how you do it girl. You’re so well spoken
1st thing you have said that I agree with. Def needs more of everything
This is so sweet and wonderful, wonderful advice! Thank you🥰
I don't think the parents are really trying honestly. If they were they would listen to peoples advice and not be so defensive. Seems like the mom wants to live her life through her daughter.
Exactlyy
This was the most helpful video I’ve seen of yours. Most of what I’ve seen has left me asking, “if that’s not the way to do it, what is?”
I love your videos Raleigh keep it up!
Anja Beran has very good books and videos! She's an absolute genius and actually cares for horses wellbeing!
Horse and Country's Masterclasses and Back to Basics have been super helpful for me in working on my riding. The two best things I've done for my riding are watching a lot of good quality videos (brain injury so I only understand by seeing) and getting a yoga ball so I can work on my core and positioning even when I'm not at the barn.
Trainers definitely make a difference and on young horses! I bought my boy as a 4 year old and was unconfident myself. I got stuck for a few years and didn’t move past a walk/slow jog. In the last 6 months I’ve found an amazing trainer and we are now learning to canter and do small jumps 😍 worth her weight in gold
I agree that the instructor and the one they just stopped working with at this barn, are very much at fault and not always doing what is best. I have never seen a good instructor NOT put a student on the longe line for lessons when they clearly have position and balance issues (this goes all the way back to when they first moved to the barn with the last female instructor). I have also noticed that instructor added in their current instructor when they newly bought Stella and the female instructor was having a lot of mounted issues when the girls were riding her and the female instructor could not ride or train Stella herself for the family. There were many times when the instructors had advised something (the purchase of a new horse) and it directly benefited them because it meant more money for board and lessons. I think just about every horse so far except the 1st lease horse (Sabrina) did not or has not quite worked out in the way the instructor said they would for what they wanted to do with the horse. When they naught Storm, the instructor told them that it would take her 2 months to get Storm to be where he needed to be for huntersor at least jumping well. That was a huge red flag and there are just so many more with the quality of education and teaching in the lessons. If you look back at both girls in their riding positions when they used to ride at the other barn before Fiona, you can see a drastic difference in everything position, alignment and balance. Since working more with Brandon, Gabby has become extremely crooked and twisted in her body and Sofia has not had the chance in well over a year or 2 to ride any horse in 1 saddle the fits her and that is terrible because you are 💯 setting your student up to fail and to fail the horse. I have told them about Schleese Saddlery for years and sent them links to their videos on saddle fitting and I have even sent them into on their new adjustable saddle and how they work all over their area of Canada.
Great comment ,and that's exactly how I've seen their situation play out over the years.
I really, really, really hope they hear this and take it to heart. You worded things so well, and made excellent points.
i agree 100% but can we talk abt how GORGEOUS raleigh is
YES RALEIGH I LITERALLY LOVE YOU SO MUCH. YOU TELL EM ❤️❤️
Completely off topic lol, but I was taking private lessons at a barn and my lesson coach would just have me walk around. it was like that for months. My younger sister went there too but my coach didn’t show any interest in helping us progress and it was extremely obvious, i’m unsure if it was because she is still a minor but it wasn’t fun. After a year of trying to find a good barn i finally found one! i’ve been riding for a few months there and I’m working on perfecting my trot and canter! ❤️❤️
I totally agree with you. When you buy a horse you not only invest your money in it but you also invest interest, It is not just about buying a horse and letting someone else work with it, it is about the rider being interested in that process since it is YOUR HORSE. I have had my own horse for three years and today I can say for sure that that horse and I have come further than I thought I could. I love your videos and always learn a lot from them, keep on going 💞
I totally agree with what you are saying. I don’t think they truly understand how much work it is actually going to take to school a young, inexperienced horse. A new, experienced trainer will be so much better for Sophie.
Yup. And look how many breaks Sophie needs to rest in a lesson!. Its ridiculous. She does not push herself. How would she be able to train a horse when physically she can only do the bare minimum. She is extremely out of shape. She should have a western horse and just enjoy trail riding. Her competing is a joke. As soon She is slightly tired she stops and sits the middle of the area to watch!.