I can imagine playing miniature games for a living would get quite tiring sometimes. So it's great to see a battle report where Dave is having such an exceptional time. Battle reports like this are why I subscribe to Miniwargaming -- it's just more of the same unparalleled quality.
Love the game. love the themed armies. Was excellent to see how Toiusand Sons work. Thanks for taking the time to set up even a little bit of a narrative. Makes it more fun. Pierre is such a great opponent. Good player, but also good opponent and lots of fun. Hope he omes on again. Look forward to more.
Definitely one of the best players to play with so this is a very good game indeed. Very much enjoyed this batrep - please do more like this with Pierre in future :D
So as strong as Marneus Calgar was in this battle. the player was not playing him with all his abilities.. First he has 4 base attacks not 3. and he has paired weapons. putting him to 5.. when he charges he has 6. he also would have got a bonus attack from the banner putting him to 7.. Also the player forgot Titanic Might which would have allowed him reroll all to wound rolls and penetration rolls on him... Calgar is a beast.. OVerall was a great game. I love seeing Ultramarine battles.
+Dzaga Maga As someone who has suffered through a lot of pain throughout 11 years. I support Nurgle. Not only that but I love his intentions and lore. My chaos marines black Legion is normally Nurgle even going as far to use Typhus and Abaddon. +1 TOUGHNESS!!!! HELL YEAH! !!!!!
I was going to complain that beams are reduced in str for each model and terrain it goes through, but beams were apparently changed in 7th, so beams are constant strength.
I'm a beginner of Warhammer 40k only started about a month ago with Dark Vengeance. I love how you painted those Terminators and Centurions and turned them into Salamanders! The Warpstone Glow you put there is lovely and smooth and especially the Damned Legionaries are also really well painted with freehand drawings. I bet you can make profit out of your painting! Keep up the good work and nice work on the Chaos Army doe
I loved the battle and I really loved the narrative battle. With the narrative it makes objectives and the battle in hole a better video to watch. 40K universe is heavy on story for all its races and its fun ti finally see someone bring that story into battle as it adds a better feeling to the game
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe a vehicle firing a flame template weapon may actually put the template over its own hull (with no ill effects) - so at roughly 59:00 the Flamestorm Cannons could have possibly hit more targets.
ya!! French representing!! LOL it's always good to see Chaos take a beating but it's even better when the people playing are having a good time! I think the only thing this game was missing was an Extra Large Pizza!
You forgot to roll on the Chaos Boon table for the terminator champion when he won the challenge. You also screwed up big time with the Vindicator. You should've blasted the Stormraven while it was hovering instead of driving up to his nose and getting shot like a sitting duck. Also, all chaos terminators come with power weapons by default, maybe you meant to say "Power swords"? Although seriously, they should've charged Marneus' unit if they all had axes, like the models did. Thinking chosen could have won was rather silly, you don't take Marneus Calgar and a Honour Guard champion with four overpriced marines and expect to do anything.
Next time, Dave, consider firing three Doombolts per phase with Ahriman's super awesome Witchfire staff instead of trying to Hemorrhage. 3 S8 AP1 beams for a total cost of 3 Warp Charges? Yes please.
great game! :) loved watching it, you and the French man give viewers lots of entertainment. If that is possible bring your matches as often as possible! :) had a blast! :)
Great batrep. When the Champion terminator killed the sargeant he should of rolled on the Champions of Chaos table. Other than that, pretty happy with this batrep.
Tzeench Vs Wolves or Ultra vs Nids If you did the Tzeench vs Wolves you could play off the time when the Dreadnoughts and bloodclaws had to hold back the tzeench army as most of the wolves armies was off thinking they knew where the tzeench army was. For the Ulrea vs nids I love the fight they had vs the swarm lord. The ultra marines defending in the north spine of the planet using a bane blade to fight the swarm back.
I normally only stick to Matt's batreps these days because he has the best grasp on the rules. Had to watch this though because it had thousand sons (my favorite, THANK YOU!). I'd resub to the vault if Dave stopped making so many mistakes. Just some constructive feedback. Had a good laugh though :)
As soon as I heard Dave was playing against a French guy, I thought awesome, finally, the return of the Ass-hole cannon; was sad to find he didn't field any :( That said, it was a really good bat-rep; I hope Pierre comes back for more battles, he was one of the cooler visitors to MWG.
Chaos Lord Dave, the Eternally Sarcastic. It is blasphemy... BLASPHEMY I tell you against the Dark Gods who blessed you with the Mark of Davied that you commissioned a large Space Wolf army to be professionally painted while your Chaos Warband is in need of some new paint jobs with indirect lighting and lots of blood. ~ Schurge, Champion Marauder of Khorne
isn't master of deception only effect infantry units? so the vindicator can not receive the bonus. how ever any infantry unit including transport can if i am not mistaken?
hes prob french canadian , and yes the french do paly warhammer regardless lol, but man Daves chaos army, it makes me so damn jelly, he must have one of the best chaos collections in the world, without a doubt.
Just an idea can you guys do a Khorne themed chaos army against a Blood Angels cc army, i know you collect both im just curious to find out who's the king of the assault phase
Ordinarily, the 90+ minute batreps are a bit long for me, but I watched this game with the same edge-of-seat interest one normally reserves for theater-movies! :}
As a Chaos Sorcerer you would have got the primaris of Tzeentch either way. So you could actually have 5 Powers. I dont know if you HAVE to rol on your gods table, but if not, you could have rolled four times on biomancy, so you could have had even 6 powers.
He HAS to roll on the tzeentch table but he gets a primaris from it as well, then he could do the next three powers anywhere he wants. So he should have had 5 powers in total.
Brett Campbell I know, I was just wondering. As Demons I don't have to, so mastery level 4 would mean (if I don't have the restriction to roll on a pre destined table) I could get up to six because of the general focus. (roll all your abilities on one table and get primaris for free. My mastery 3 Heralds of Tzeentch have five, too).
LazyVideosGAME Cheating. You only get either normal psychic focus or the chaos one, not both. Basically, you get one free for rolling all of them on one table. Pretty simple if you don't cheese-mine the rules for your own benefit. ;)
I don't know anyone who does it that way. When I read it, it says you roll on a table, get them and the primaris for free. THEN, additionally, you get the primaris from Chaos Focus. So 5. Also it's not that I could use every single one of them. It's not working like that anymore. It just gives more possibilities. The wording is a bit of, they could have added an example on is clear enough or actually SAID that you don't get it. Because that is not the wording, so I guess, RAI, and actually RAW, you get also Chaos Primaris. (Imagining pink Horrors that don't know Tzeentch Primaris. rofl)
sorry if I get something wrong here as I love warhammer but dont know how to play this game completely do-sent the chaos terminator with lighting claws get to roll on the chaos boon table since he killed the Legion of the dammed sergeant?
lol master of deception is d3 "infantry" units.... first rule of the game... wrong. I'll join the vault when you guys play a game and get most of the rules right or at least know your army! you have 36,000pts of chaos!
Konrad Von Carstein Ok then. I´m good though, I use the rulebook as my guide. But it is customary to tell the opponent why it is open for interpretation and not just that it is and leave it at that.
I love legion of the damned but they are very expensive (even with the point reduction) and being an elite choice they have to compete with terminators and sternguard. sure they have a 3+ invuln but other than that they are a veteran with guns that ignore cover, cause fear and can deep strike that cannot benefit from chapter tactics and cant be joined by independent characters and HAVE to start in reserve. now that they can hold objectives with the new 7th edition rules im interested to see if that will make them a bit more useful but still, competing with sternguard and terminators if its a competitive battle they are one of the last elite choices in my mind. I think I could see them being a bit more useful and it would be closer to fluff if "flaming projectile" special rule gave them ap3 boltguns instead of ignores cover or gave them both (though im not sure if giving them both would be broke or not they are 25 points per model so a basic 10 man squad with no upgrades is 250 ponts)
I have a Tzneetch dedicated csm army approching 40 000 points and finally can see the end in sight after 3 years of modelling but have temporalily had to put on hold to build Tzneetch daemons to use for my daemonly malefic summonig spells
and man, dave makes me so jelly, like he has the models for every mark of chaos, i've only got one set of terms for example with nurgle so anything else i have to proxy them for, dave though has terms with every mark
I can imagine playing miniature games for a living would get quite tiring sometimes. So it's great to see a battle report where Dave is having such an exceptional time. Battle reports like this are why I subscribe to Miniwargaming -- it's just more of the same unparalleled quality.
I have no idea of how to play this, but somehow I enjoy watching this
you deserve a gold medal, heck we can share one
Costosky buy dark vengeance and not a start collecting army because it has missions thr rule book a cheat shee dice and measurin sticks
Costosky me neither I just collect the miniatures because they look wonderful
When Tzeentch's plans are "foiled" it's because he wants them to be so because he's planing something else or something. That's the idea at least.
I really liked the themed armies. They really make the battle reports more fun to watch. :)
Love the game. love the themed armies. Was excellent to see how Toiusand Sons work. Thanks for taking the time to set up even a little bit of a narrative. Makes it more fun. Pierre is such a great opponent. Good player, but also good opponent and lots of fun. Hope he omes on again.
Look forward to more.
Definitely one of the best players to play with so this is a very good game indeed. Very much enjoyed this batrep - please do more like this with Pierre in future :D
So as strong as Marneus Calgar was in this battle. the player was not playing him with all his abilities.. First he has 4 base attacks not 3. and he has paired weapons. putting him to 5.. when he charges he has 6. he also would have got a bonus attack from the banner putting him to 7..
Also the player forgot Titanic Might which would have allowed him reroll all to wound rolls and penetration rolls on him... Calgar is a beast..
OVerall was a great game. I love seeing Ultramarine battles.
Now i see it!
Orks believe red vehicles go faster, so Blood Angel vehicle are actually fast.
I for one would love to see more of the Thousand Sons themed army.
All is Dust :3
HolowRobin Why no skulls for skull throne?
cos Khorne is a big Meanie! Not like Mr Tzeentch :3
Tzeentch smiles upon the army of his sons
+Dzaga Maga As someone who has suffered through a lot of pain throughout 11 years. I support Nurgle. Not only that but I love his intentions and lore. My chaos marines black Legion is normally Nurgle even going as far to use Typhus and Abaddon. +1 TOUGHNESS!!!! HELL YEAH! !!!!!
the centurions and the thousand sons literally just sat down crossed their legs and waited for someone to tell them it was over.
Finally, proof that the French play Warhammer 40k. I don't know if anyone doubted it, but now, we have evidence
This probably should be on he discovery channel :D
Actually 40k is quite popular in France.
i'm french and i play 40k and actualy a lot of peoples play 40k in france
im from finland and i play
40k in France is really popular ! Really ! :)
I really enjoyed the batrep. I love when he called the "asshole doctrine" at 1:19:53.
They have such a great attitude it makes it really pleasant to watch
I was going to complain that beams are reduced in str for each model and terrain it goes through, but beams were apparently changed in 7th, so beams are constant strength.
once you let a frenchmen sleep on your couch, there is no getting rid of him.
I love watching these videos all the time, but when you two battle its always fun and funny and interesting. Wish you guys could do so more!
Whenever Dave mentions his heritage I just want to visit even more, 1 to show him the terror of the guard, 2 to let him fight a full viking.
Aspiring sorcerers don't have slow and purposeful so can over watch. Thousand sons do have veterans of the long war.
I love that there was not a huge load of netlist spam stuff. Good fun, tough fight.
I'm a beginner of Warhammer 40k only started about a month ago with Dark Vengeance. I love how you painted those Terminators and Centurions and turned them into Salamanders! The Warpstone Glow you put there is lovely and smooth and especially the Damned Legionaries are also really well painted with freehand drawings. I bet you can make profit out of your painting! Keep up the good work and nice work on the Chaos Army doe
I'm confused on what your even talking about, what salamanders and they don't even paint them themselves.
Man the the french guys rolls were terrible until he took his top off, the chaos god tzeentch must just love stripy shirts
I loved the battle and I really loved the narrative battle. With the narrative it makes objectives and the battle in hole a better video to watch. 40K universe is heavy on story for all its races and its fun ti finally see someone bring that story into battle as it adds a better feeling to the game
I just read the title as "Chaos Space Marines" and was like "...against who???"
Isvoor lol
Ultramarines live longer with calgar
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe a vehicle firing a flame template weapon may actually put the template over its own hull (with no ill effects) - so at roughly 59:00 the Flamestorm Cannons could have possibly hit more targets.
"five assole terminators" lol, his accent is so thick
Pierre is back!!!!!!!
Id love a themed Iron Hands fight Necrons :D
ya!! French representing!! LOL it's always good to see Chaos take a beating but it's even better when the people playing are having a good time! I think the only thing this game was missing was an Extra Large Pizza!
THIS! THIS IS THE BATTLE I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!
You forgot to roll on the Chaos Boon table for the terminator champion when he won the challenge.
You also screwed up big time with the Vindicator. You should've blasted the Stormraven while it was hovering instead of driving up to his nose and getting shot like a sitting duck. Also, all chaos terminators come with power weapons by default, maybe you meant to say "Power swords"? Although seriously, they should've charged Marneus' unit if they all had axes, like the models did. Thinking chosen could have won was rather silly, you don't take Marneus Calgar and a Honour Guard champion with four overpriced marines and expect to do anything.
Next time, Dave, consider firing three Doombolts per phase with Ahriman's super awesome Witchfire staff instead of trying to Hemorrhage. 3 S8 AP1 beams for a total cost of 3 Warp Charges? Yes please.
does he remind anyone else of duck man when he does his dance of victory, awesome video!!!
Tzeentch's plans never fail. If ever there are survivors they're simply puppets leading to a future chaotic incursion! :D
great game! :) loved watching it, you and the French man give viewers lots of entertainment. If that is possible bring your matches as often as possible! :) had a blast! :)
Love the new resolution guys
Hey look it's a French James Franco
Great batrep. When the Champion terminator killed the sargeant he should of rolled on the Champions of Chaos table. Other than that, pretty happy with this batrep.
Dave always forgets the boon table rolls, ALWAYS. Except when he doesn't, but that's an incredibly rare occurrence so it doesn't count! :-p
Drives me potty lol
Tzeench Vs Wolves or Ultra vs Nids If you did the Tzeench vs Wolves you could play off the time when the Dreadnoughts and bloodclaws had to hold back the tzeench army as most of the wolves armies was off thinking they knew where the tzeench army was. For the Ulrea vs nids I love the fight they had vs the swarm lord. The ultra marines defending in the north spine of the planet using a bane blade to fight the swarm back.
I would love to see a themed Eldar army =D
A Dark Eldar player has recently applied for a batrap and apparently got accepted. I hope we get to see that soon.
Holy Intro Batman!
I normally only stick to Matt's batreps these days because he has the best grasp on the rules. Had to watch this though because it had thousand sons (my favorite, THANK YOU!). I'd resub to the vault if Dave stopped making so many mistakes. Just some constructive feedback. Had a good laugh though :)
28:38 I know its seven members but the first time I heard 7.000 sons was hit...
nice vid, good battle, lovin the banter
you FORGOT TO ROLL ON THE BOON TABLE FOR THE TERMINATOR CHAMP NOOO!!!!!! I WANTED TO SEE A DEAMON PRINCE LOL
i would love to see a dave vs matt batt rep were dave uses matts tyranids and matt uses daves chaos
17:06 "Im gonna fire the assholes cannon..."
As soon as I heard Dave was playing against a French guy, I thought awesome, finally, the return of the Ass-hole cannon; was sad to find he didn't field any :(
That said, it was a really good bat-rep; I hope Pierre comes back for more battles, he was one of the cooler visitors to MWG.
I'm trying, I just leave far away. Thanks for the comment, it helps motivating to save money and go back
Look forward to your return :D Stay Awesome!
*****
I'll make sure to fill some of thos smelly canon for the next batrep :)
Yeah, Pierre and the British Guard player. Either player would make my day
They were two of the better players to go to MWG. The Canada themed IG player and Cody were also fairly good.
Chaos Lord Dave, the Eternally Sarcastic. It is blasphemy... BLASPHEMY I tell you against the Dark Gods who blessed you with the Mark of Davied that you commissioned a large Space Wolf army to be professionally painted while your Chaos Warband is in need of some new paint jobs with indirect lighting and lots of blood.
~ Schurge, Champion Marauder of Khorne
Suggestion: unbound army of various imperial aligned heroes/heroines versus their combined points of enemy troops/vehicles?
Nice looking miniatures
isn't master of deception only effect infantry units? so the vindicator can not receive the bonus. how ever any infantry unit including transport can if i am not mistaken?
Correct, a unit with infiltrate passes it onto their dedicated transport.
Would love to see a demon themed army. Possibly slaanesh or korne, what do you guys think.
Dave plz ask Matt if he can make a review on the new necron codex with you or Steve
hes prob french canadian , and yes the french do paly warhammer regardless lol, but man Daves chaos army, it makes me so damn jelly, he must have one of the best chaos collections in the world, without a doubt.
this is totally not the french canadian accent but good try (i'm french canadian)
taz31999 I laughed out loud when he said assault cannon and it totally sounded like asshole cannon!
he has a video of his giant chaos collection somewhere in the channel. Its so damn big :3
centurions get to re roll there to wound/penetrate rolls if they were using grav cannons
Love is in the air...
Nicely done!
and also calgar allows all ultramarines to choose to pass or fail any leadership test
This French dude takes proper liberties with the movement phase!
I love themed Armys. How about a little Arch Enemy Fight between Space Wolves and Thousand Sons? ;-)
Thousand Sons have Veterans of the Long War!
You need a rice hat with viking horns!
Just an idea can you guys do a Khorne themed chaos army against a Blood Angels cc army, i know you collect both im just curious to find out who's the king of the assault phase
Great work as always! Where do you guys get the gaming mats?
Space Marines are OP
Marneus Calgar allows you to pass or fail leadership checks automatically no rolls required
Ordinarily, the 90+ minute batreps are a bit long for me, but I watched this game with the same edge-of-seat interest one normally reserves for theater-movies! :}
As a Chaos Sorcerer you would have got the primaris of Tzeentch either way. So you could actually have 5 Powers. I dont know if you HAVE to rol on your gods table, but if not, you could have rolled four times on biomancy, so you could have had even 6 powers.
He HAS to roll on the tzeentch table but he gets a primaris from it as well, then he could do the next three powers anywhere he wants. So he should have had 5 powers in total.
Check out Chaos psychic focus on pg22 of the BRB. Chaos psykers who are forced to roll on a chaos psychic power chart also get that primaris for free.
Brett Campbell I know, I was just wondering. As Demons I don't have to, so mastery level 4 would mean (if I don't have the restriction to roll on a pre destined table) I could get up to six because of the general focus. (roll all your abilities on one table and get primaris for free. My mastery 3 Heralds of Tzeentch have five, too).
LazyVideosGAME
Cheating. You only get either normal psychic focus or the chaos one, not both. Basically, you get one free for rolling all of them on one table. Pretty simple if you don't cheese-mine the rules for your own benefit. ;)
I don't know anyone who does it that way.
When I read it, it says you roll on a table, get them and the primaris for free. THEN, additionally, you get the primaris from Chaos Focus. So 5. Also it's not that I could use every single one of them. It's not working like that anymore. It just gives more possibilities. The wording is a bit of, they could have added an example on is clear enough or actually SAID that you don't get it. Because that is not the wording, so I guess, RAI, and actually RAW, you get also Chaos Primaris. (Imagining pink Horrors that don't know Tzeentch Primaris. rofl)
sorry if I get something wrong here as I love warhammer but dont know how to play this game completely do-sent the chaos terminator with lighting claws get to roll on the chaos boon table since he killed the Legion of the dammed sergeant?
Indeed you're right! :O
lol master of deception is d3 "infantry" units.... first rule of the game... wrong.
I'll join the vault when you guys play a game and get most of the rules right or at least know your army! you have 36,000pts of chaos!
haha seems someones jealous.
Dalton Cannon i know, i only have 12k :( i did paint all mine thou :D
It's a good thing you took the time to demonstrate your superiority and self righteousness. Thank you
Mike Schilder Welcome to the Internet
Shouldn't even surprise you anymore. They get more wrong than right most of the time, especially when it's Dave. "We work, so you can play" my ass.
Best intro
The landraider had budget costs.
Bring Pierre back again hahahahah!
Come on man, it's not an ambush... ITS A TRAP
Lol Pooh waagh axe
don't beams lose a point of strength for every model they pass through?
dave and his 6+ inv whit mark . never used xD
dude boon table for the terminator champion!!!!
Isn't a landraider heavy? So it can't move 12'' right?
No. Yes.
just an fyi, calgar actually has a power sword too
Would have to be one giant power sword to use it with power fists on.
ha too true
i couldn't get into this, but really it looks like fun
Go space marine's go
khorne army vs. slaanesh army!
Boon table dave!!!!!
You need a to hit roll with the beam from Ahriman.
It is fairly customary to not correct on rules that are still open for interpretation
Konrad Von Carstein
How so?
Beam is a witchfire, Witchfire rolls to hit. Beam rolls to hit.
Not going to discuss the details myself. Maybe some other commenter will as I really don't care enough anymore.
Konrad Von Carstein
Ok then. I´m good though, I use the rulebook as my guide. But
it is customary to tell the opponent why it is open for interpretation and not just that it is and leave it at that.
Actually you don't only witch fire roll to hit.
Can't you re-roll the centurion hits because of the grab amp?
Who makes that Infinity-looking bunker?
that was a great game
anyone know how Dave distinguishes his chosen chaos space marines from his regular chaos space marines that just happen to be in black legion armor?
Chosen tend to be more, well better looking!
Just for my own information by combi bolter does Dave mean stormbolter
I love legion of the damned but they are very expensive (even with the point reduction) and being an elite choice they have to compete with terminators and sternguard. sure they have a 3+ invuln but other than that they are a veteran with guns that ignore cover, cause fear and can deep strike that cannot benefit from chapter tactics and cant be joined by independent characters and HAVE to start in reserve. now that they can hold objectives with the new 7th edition rules im interested to see if that will make them a bit more useful but still, competing with sternguard and terminators if its a competitive battle they are one of the last elite choices in my mind. I think I could see them being a bit more useful and it would be closer to fluff if "flaming projectile" special rule gave them ap3 boltguns instead of ignores cover or gave them both (though im not sure if giving them both would be broke or not they are 25 points per model so a basic 10 man squad with no upgrades is 250 ponts)
Pierre, u rock!
Thanks :)
Wait. Arhiman isn't a terminator?
I would love to see a 10,000 point fight
I have a Tzneetch dedicated csm army approching 40 000 points and finally can see the end in sight after 3 years of modelling but have temporalily had to put on hold to build Tzneetch daemons to use for my daemonly malefic summonig spells
Shelly Evensen daemonolgy* malefic spells sorry
I like the dude's accent.
@10:25 did he say warlord?
17:08 Fire the "asshole cannons"?
and man, dave makes me so jelly, like he has the models for every mark of chaos, i've only got one set of terms for example with nurgle so anything else i have to proxy them for, dave though has terms with every mark