The Einstein myth: Why the cult of personality is bad for science | Michelle Thaller | Big Think

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  • @amoghskulkarni
    @amoghskulkarni 5 років тому +40

    "You're a scientist if you can just ask a question."
    That was eye-opening.

    • @pixelum2023
      @pixelum2023 3 роки тому +1

      Indeed!

    • @ala1729
      @ala1729 8 місяців тому

      Then every 5 years old is scientist. Ha!

  • @finthechat7134
    @finthechat7134 6 років тому +170

    "If I have seen further, it is by standing upon the shoulders of giants". Sir Isaac Newton

    • @jerryhasselson4759
      @jerryhasselson4759 6 років тому +3

      Fake Dufas indeed just think how brilliant the average person of today is compared to the geniuses of 150 years ago!

    • @danielhernandez-vo9zc
      @danielhernandez-vo9zc 6 років тому +8

      Jerry Hasselson well we have more collective knowledge and education now but humans haven't evolved in the last 3-400 years to be brilliant compared to someone as say like Isaac newton, he's probably more brilliant than most modern scientist considering he discovered calculus, the motion of celestial objects, advances in chemistry and all with little or no technology compared to what we have today, that is what you call natural brilliance.

    • @Jonayofsweden
      @Jonayofsweden 6 років тому +6

      "If I have seen further, it is because I am standing among midgets" - Isaac Newton, truer quote.

    • @HopDavid
      @HopDavid 6 років тому +12

      The foundations of calculus had been laid in the generation previous to Newton and Leibniz. By folks like Fermat, Cavalieri, Barrow, Gregory and others.
      Building this branch of mathematics was the collaborative effort of many people over many years. Yes, Newton made contributions to calculus. But calling him the inventor of calculus is nonsense.

    • @MoSec9
      @MoSec9 5 років тому

      @@jerryhasselson4759 Not really. We have more information but the average person is not even close to being able to figure out many of concepts in ancient Egypt's geometry much introducing the concept of zero or discovering the decimal system in the 7th century not to mention other scientific discoveries and observations in Astronomy and medicine that the average person still has no clue about. Don't confuse scientific discoveries and innovations with looking up information in Google.

  • @traditionalpetition906
    @traditionalpetition906 5 років тому +47

    You're words have quite possibly changed my life ma'am...thank you.

  • @Isabelle-bk7yv
    @Isabelle-bk7yv 6 років тому +131

    Big think doing videos on topics like this remind me why I love them so much

    • @Rensoku611
      @Rensoku611 6 років тому

      Isabelle Marie same

    • @jahebmake3241
      @jahebmake3241 6 років тому

      Yes you are correct...i'm actually a single parent and am tired of cuddling my pillow while i sleep so i would like any God fearing lady to send me a request if she finds me interesting and please you don't need to be shy sending a request or leaving me a message on jahemake3@gmail.com

    • @tomrhodes1629
      @tomrhodes1629 5 років тому

      Then you should love this: The cure for cancer was discovered long ago. And it is extremely simple, and costs almost nothing. But mainstream medical science cannot recognize or acknowledge the cure due to the cult of personality, group-consensus mindset, and the profit motive, which buries information that is not monetarily profitable. The Meaning of Life, the biggest secret in this world, is fully known. But not to schooled philosophers, priests, and teachers, again, due to the cult of personality, group-consensus mindset, and the profit motive. I authored a book on the subject, published in 2013. Want to know more? Give me a "click"......

  • @scienceandmind3065
    @scienceandmind3065 6 років тому +50

    Beautiful talk again. That's one of the most important things for people to know: that mental skills are skills like every other that can be improved by practice. Our mind is part of our body and like training makes anyone good at a physical task so does practice for the mind. Some are faster at archiving a particular skill but everyone can get there in the end. Especially in math and science I think there are a few core skills in the beginning that come hard to some but after one masters them it doesn't get necessarily harder with advancement in the topic. I see myself as an example how everybody can do it; I got from the equivalent of an F in my last high school semester math to a A- bachelor in computational physical chemistry now working on density functional theory in theoretical physics. Still I sometimes feel insecure cause I started late with 23 wasn't a genius in school and don't understand some things as fast as others but only with a lot of work and some creative memorization techniques.

    • @elenakusevska6266
      @elenakusevska6266 5 років тому

      Where did you do a bachelor in computational physical chemistry? That's more like two levels of graduate work above bachelor...
      Also DFT... it depends on what you are doing...
      Also it is possible that you had bad grades in high school because or you weren't trying. Or for whatever other teenager reasons :)

    • @JoeARedHawk275
      @JoeARedHawk275 5 років тому

      Yeah sometimes people’s potential aren’t realized in an environment. Some people actually do better in college and some do better in high school and then decline in college. However, there are true geniuses. I feel like the you’re saying that everyone can become a genius through hard work. That’s not true though. True geniuses are those who learn exceptionally fast, think a lot, and are able to apply their knowledge to topics to a further level than someone just working hard the moment they are born. It’s not fair, but it’s the truth. An example that immediately comes to mind is Isaac Newton who was able to lay out calculus in a time where witchcraft was still believed

    • @JoeARedHawk275
      @JoeARedHawk275 5 років тому +1

      To add on though, it’s true that you can train your math skills to extremely high levels. I guess if that’s all you’re saying, then it’s true. But if you’re saying everyone can become as smart as Albert Einstein, then I would disagree.

  • @thomasherzog86
    @thomasherzog86 6 років тому +43

    as an artist, i cant describe how accurate this also fits the theme of art. people see music as a special gift one cant achieve without "talent", but thats simply not true. music is purely mathematic and can be done without "heart", as long as you like doing it enough to compensate it with your mind.

    • @kenim
      @kenim 6 років тому +3

      Thomas Herzog honestly Hollywood has ruined a lot of people's dreams and aspirations.

    • @paddleduck5328
      @paddleduck5328 6 років тому +2

      That’s interesting. A musician in my family was fascinated with the mathematical aspect of composing. He always talked about Beethoven using it.

    • @thomasherzog86
      @thomasherzog86 6 років тому +2

      To Err is Huma
      i cant prove you otherwise in a small youtube comment, but i ensure you that everything around music is mathematic. length of the notes are divided by 1, 1\2, 1,4, 1\8,... two notes are the more harmonic, the smaller their proportions are, the beat is either binary or tertiary, even the notebars are supposed to even each other out with upbeat and end. music is broken down into semmetric pieces, the tune, the repition, etc. and there are eight notes with three accords, in which every accord shares one of its three notes with another one and much more. its the reason why computers already generated compositions, just google it. its pure science of frequencies ordered in harmonies and time.

  • @TS1336
    @TS1336 5 років тому +14

    One of the most meaningful videos ever posted on UA-cam.
    Cheers from Italy

  • @emilyalmond7291
    @emilyalmond7291 6 років тому +44

    Amen sister. Brilliant and inspiring.

  • @kayrosis5523
    @kayrosis5523 6 років тому +4

    Ms Thaller is such a great speaker, every time I hear her, it's like listening to a loving aunt tell me how great the world is and how great I can become in it

  • @countvanbruno182
    @countvanbruno182 5 років тому +3

    Einstein made small contributions to Science. His most important contribution was with the photoelectric effect. Relativity theory, including E=MC^2, was formulated by Henri Poincare and Hendrik Lorentz a few years before Einstein even came onto the scene. The problem with Einstein was that he used Poincare's work and never gave him credit. This is an incredibly harmful thing to do to the Science community. So then, why is Einstein so famous? Well, its mainly because of his Political ideas and Philosophical ideas. Einstein was promoted by the Media because he had a lot to say about the problems of the World and this propelled him to superstar status. Unfortunately, this has turned into a "Cult of Personality," which is very harmful to the sciences. Einstein is not "The Messiah" or some "Miracle Worker." He just borrowed from his more brilliant scientific contemporaries and took the credit for his own. Advice for young students: Don't be like Einstein. Be like Poincare.

    • @riffsnreviews
      @riffsnreviews 3 роки тому +1

      You're right, Einstein was of course smart enough to understand the science, like many others, was good at combining ideas, but he's definitely not the genius he is famous for being (granted he's smarter than the 90th% percentile). And he never cited any other scientists which granted him this superstar status (with help from the media) all while having help from others to compile the ideas (also never citing the help)
      Why they chose him, maybe because of his looks and his background, but they could have chosen anyone, hell they could have chosen a teenager, the goal was only to control and direct scientific work in one direction rather than another for various reasons

  • @AdamShaiken
    @AdamShaiken 6 років тому +84

    Frankly, we are all born scientists...our socialization and environment can either foster or inhibit this innate disposition.

    • @gpolenik
      @gpolenik 6 років тому +14

      I like this tweet by Neil deGrasse Tyson:''Scientists are simply adults who retained and nurtured their native curiosity from childhood.''

    • @AdamShaiken
      @AdamShaiken 6 років тому +1

      I like it, too. Though, I would proffer that it begins in the womb and depends upon the degree to which the womb owner fosters a creative learning process and can begin to instill curiosity and a quest for understanding and knowledge. Have you ever heard of mothers playing classical music with earphones on their bellies and talking to their fetus' ? I am simply saying that it begins far earlier in the brains development than even early childhood ! Peace.

    • @danielhernandez-vo9zc
      @danielhernandez-vo9zc 6 років тому +1

      Well Kim Kardashian is definitely influencing most of the young culture in the world and it's really sad

    • @elenakusevska6266
      @elenakusevska6266 5 років тому

      No. That is not true. And people need to stop saying that. There is natural variation among humans. Not everyone is smart. Not everyone is curious. And not everyone is disciplined enough and willing to sacrifice their youth.

  • @keithc3350
    @keithc3350 5 років тому +1

    She's right in saying that we can all learn science but the sad truth is in a competitive world with finite resources, smarter learners will beat you to your scholarship and research positions.

  • @Linkx16
    @Linkx16 5 років тому +23

    She’s so awesome! I felt the same way she described while going through my college years taking challenging physics and math courses. But still got it done despite people telling me that I couldn’t.

  • @fredchege9909
    @fredchege9909 3 роки тому +1

    Though not anywhere as brilliant as this lady, I was immensely proud to hear he describe my brain exactly:I have a brain that tends towards the creative and the imaginative. I am not very linear. I'm not very logical, I am not very organized... That is just so satisfying. I thought I have a problem. Now I know I am not.

  • @WoundedViking
    @WoundedViking 6 років тому +29

    if he was alive we'd prolly dislike him due to the microscope on public personas now.. I survived cancer twice and lost half my face to amputation.. a tumor destroyed my jaw and changed everything I once knew.. I was labeled a freak. I decided to start my own youtube channel to inspire others who feel ugly and not good enough for this world..I moved to Barcelona to build a new life. I want to show others that it's all about positivity and energy.. and that with the right mindset, you can overcome any mental or physical hurdle if u just learn to love yourself! positive energy from within overpowers any physical shell! go check me out and subscribe if u want to help me reach my goal of helping others who lack self-love.. together we can change the world!

    • @WoundedViking
      @WoundedViking 6 років тому +2

      Terry Jarnigan hi Terry. thank you so much for the support brother. it hasn't been easy as the internet can be a cruel place but I truly believe its why this happened to me, I have to help others who dont have the same strength. hope to see u around my channel, have a great day.

    • @StephenJelinek
      @StephenJelinek 6 років тому +1

      Terry Jarnigan God wants to be glorified by all.

    • @StephenJelinek
      @StephenJelinek 6 років тому

      Yes Satan is filled with hate, and fills humanity with hate. The remedy is the blood of Jesus Christ. One day all who have accepted the gift of forgiveness purchased by Jesus with his blood will be made completely pure and presented into a true utopia. Those who say no to the gift will be cast into Satan's hell.

    • @TestMeatDollSteak
      @TestMeatDollSteak 6 років тому +10

      Sooo...your comment is an off topic appeal for subscribers to your own channel. I like how you started it off with a single thought about the video title before completely switching gears and diving into the self-promotion, though, haha. I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to get your name/channel out there these days, lol. Also, what's up with the weird off topic religious crap in the replies to the OP?

    • @TheTravisweb
      @TheTravisweb 6 років тому +1

      it puts the lotion on its skin, or it gets the hose again!

  • @SusanHopkinson
    @SusanHopkinson 6 років тому +11

    Got to say it, Michelle Thaller: you’re brilliant 😉

  • @anthonygross123
    @anthonygross123 4 роки тому +2

    I've always respected and learned so much every time I heard Dr. Thaller speak. This has - so far - been the most impactful and meaningful. I'm so grateful (if I ever get a starship, I'd want her as my science officer)

  • @kingfullmetal
    @kingfullmetal 6 років тому +2

    Thank you for this video and discussion. This is actually something fairly I'm passionate about - I'm about to begin my neuroscience PhD in a few days, but I was often approached in a similar manner throughout my undergraduate days (double-majoring in bio and chem, and triple-minoring in classical humanities, English, and psychology). I'm convinced that there is no singular intelligence, so, just because I'm curious about biology in particular does not equate to my being "smarter" than others. I would half-joke that I couldn't tell anybody anything about music theory, accounting, or computer science, so, in fact, I'm not all that smart at all - I just chose to focus on a handful of my personal interests, and anybody else could do the same. I'm also of the opinion that society's elevation of scientists like Einstein goes against the purpose of science in general. Sure, like you said, they make significant contributions, but by idolizing those individuals, we often overlook their actual contributions to their fields. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know the first thing about general relativity, but of course I've heard of Albert Einstein and some of his history, and I would be surprised if I were alone in that. I think it's awesome that people in science can get the general public so interested in the plethora of subjects therein, but I think their work should receive just as much attention as they do.

  • @mrpaddingtonn
    @mrpaddingtonn 5 років тому +8

    Michelle is simply an amazing story teller with a lot of charm and knowledge. Can’t stop watching her clips. This one was very well done on dissecting cult from reality. Thank you

  • @funpheonix9752
    @funpheonix9752 5 років тому +5

    I really needed this video. I’ve always been really interested in science (especially Astronomy) but I’ve always thought that I could never be an astronomer because I’m terrible at math. This video reminded me that some people are just better at things than others naturally, but that doesn’t mean you can’t work your way up to being good at a certain skill. ❤️

  • @nicofonce
    @nicofonce 5 років тому +1

    On the other hand, it's personalities like Neil Degrasse Tyson that have such a wide reach they can trigger a scientific interest to so many people that otherwise would never get there.
    Awesome talk by the way!

  • @ifitsfreeitsforme1852
    @ifitsfreeitsforme1852 4 роки тому

    I can remember my fourth grade teacher saying that I would do better in school if I would just learn to focus on one thing at a time. For me , that has always been difficult because there's so many things in life that I was/am curious about.
    I never felt the need to be an expert in any one thing , but rather have a working knowledge of all the things that interested me.

  • @pauladamsarccm
    @pauladamsarccm 4 роки тому +2

    I’m an early engineer just starting my upper level classes, with hopes of one day having that coveted NASA ID card. This is hands down the video I needed to see. I can DO calculus, but I don’t speak it fluently, and I really worry about that. So, thanks for the pep talk coach! Some day maybe I can buy you lunch in the cafeteria and we can talk about “maybes.” I’ll see you then!

    • @irishguy200007
      @irishguy200007 2 роки тому

      The language of mathematics is really bad which is why most of us are scared of it
      Mathematics should be thought of as a language fluently.

  • @Jonayofsweden
    @Jonayofsweden 6 років тому +1

    When Einstein says "not particularly great at mathematics" you have to take in to account what kind of people he is comparing himself to... not particularly great is still factors greater than probably anyone you've ever met who was good at mathematics.

  • @PhiLeo7973
    @PhiLeo7973 5 років тому

    Dr Michelle Thaller: Where physical beauty, scientific brilliance, a love for teaching, an unparalleled skillset of myriad subjects, and a supernova smile that manifests when sharing joyful wonder, is only exceeded by humble kindness.

  • @damienhunt4264
    @damienhunt4264 3 роки тому +1

    As a language teacher, I disagree with your language-learning analogy. The fact is that some people cannot get past intermediate level in another language. In fact, the idea that everyone can get to native-like fluency in another language is one source of frustration for both teachers and students. In reality, in a given group of 100 foreign language learners, less than 15% will approach native-like fluency.

  • @irishguy200007
    @irishguy200007 2 роки тому

    The worst thing is most mathematicians and scientists cannot communicate very well and the Books they write are understandable to themselves but the cannot accept that many people reading them won't see it that way.
    The greatest teacher sees thing through the eyes of his pupils not through his own.

  • @hotpursuit58
    @hotpursuit58 5 років тому +3

    Those were arguably the most inspiring words I've ever heard.

  • @BrandonWilliams-tq7ze
    @BrandonWilliams-tq7ze 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for helping us level the mental playing field! Curiosity, dedication, and humility triumph in science where we’re actively building on the knowledge of others.

  • @alexpro00red3
    @alexpro00red3 6 років тому +1

    I don't think that science is necessarily hard for people in an academic sense, I believe that the true difficulty is in finding the will to develop and maintain a scientific way of thinking. That includes using logic, questioning ones own beliefs, being open to new data, basing conclusions on evidence rather than feelings, analyzing events without bias, etc.

  • @8Seboo
    @8Seboo 6 років тому +12

    you might aswell rename the channel to "Michelle Thaller"

  • @fb150185
    @fb150185 6 років тому +1

    It is SO importante to change the way science related subjects and careers are taught! From a young age we get this stigma that science is hard and for very smart and it's sad because it makes that may people don't even consider science as a living because of this.

  • @zetadroid
    @zetadroid 6 років тому

    Yes, I'm getting sick of hearing broadcasters saying "scientists prove once more that Einstein was right"
    He was a great mind, but he got there
    1) in steps (general relativity was not formulated in one day, but rather in ten years with all sorts of pitfalls in between)
    2) and discussing/collaborating with other scientists.
    It's ok if we elect one person to hold the glory, I'm fine with it because it helps the narrative of the development of a discipline, however let's not forget the beauty of human's ability to communicate and forge ideas by sharing thoughts. Even great minds wouldn't go anywhere without it.

  • @PeterKaitlyn
    @PeterKaitlyn 5 років тому

    Learning is the process of taking something unknown, scary, confusing, uncomfortable, and daunting, and making it clear, understood, common, & easy...
    The two elements needed are determination & effort.
    The Determination to keep asking questions...
    The Effort to keep working on getting answers...

  • @1112gloria
    @1112gloria 3 роки тому

    Michelle Thaller...ma'am you need a channel of your own....I could listen to u all day

  • @inertiaforce7846
    @inertiaforce7846 5 років тому

    Her final sentence "you're a scientist if you can just ask a question." I agree with that completely. If the human species as a whole where to put all our minds into science we could transform every society in the entire world for the better. Science is the most powerful tool ever created buy humans. All of us are scientists. You don't have to be smart, you just have to be able to ask a question. If all humans were working at science I bet we could make discoveries that would completely change all of our lives and possibly even figure out what death is.

  • @laneromel5667
    @laneromel5667 6 років тому

    Progress is made by people who see things differently, and do not go with the flow. Einstein's quote was once I forgot everything I was taught in University that I started to make progress.
    He won the Nobel Prize for the photo electric effect because nobody understood Relativity.

  • @insomnsv
    @insomnsv 6 років тому +2

    Your point is that one doesn't have to be a "rock star" to be a scientist. I differ in opinion. To me, "rock star" means not only being brilliant but communicative and charismatic (you yourself fit that description). First, we need brilliance because we don't just want mediocre scientist to regurgitate "prior art"; we want them to break new grounds. Second, we need charisma and ability to communicate, because we want scientific findings and insight to be shared; not just bottled up in a lab or somebody's mind.
    I do agree with you on how poorly science is taught. This actually illustrates my opinion: The ones doing the teaching are uninspiring and mediocre.

  • @rhijulbec1
    @rhijulbec1 5 років тому

    I used to teach medical terminology to nurses in training. I always told my students that it is not like learning a new language. It IS learning a new language. They said that made it easier. We learn French in school from grade 1,so basically they became trilingual!

  • @gillesmeura3416
    @gillesmeura3416 5 років тому

    Brilliant !
    On Einstein: you could add that he could also be (very) wrong at times (the Bohr - Einstein controversy on "realism" etc...) but that his "being wrong" also contributed to science (leading to Bell, Aspect etc)

  • @clapton79
    @clapton79 5 років тому +1

    The force of honesty is strong in this one :)

  • @grumblekin
    @grumblekin 6 років тому

    I'm a scientist (academic professor) and it sucks when a celebrity who doesn't do research is blabbering on TV about politics...

  • @yoonjo2187
    @yoonjo2187 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the words of encouragement! ❤

  • @shastabare6026
    @shastabare6026 6 років тому

    Oh bravo! My mind has been skirting around this subject, a scientist visiting schools, as I try to un teach children all these exact superior impressions about science and University. This is an excellent video!!

  • @eddied00
    @eddied00 5 років тому +1

    Oh god, for a lack of a better word, this is absolutely inspirational

  • @graemedurie9094
    @graemedurie9094 3 роки тому

    Very good indeed - perhaps the best video you've made, and that's saying something.

  • @jeffthompson9622
    @jeffthompson9622 3 роки тому

    Excellent presentation.

  • @rekhagaikwad5746
    @rekhagaikwad5746 6 років тому +1

    wow..... i loved it..... jst reminded few wrds of my senior that.. "every questions answer is nt at all complicated... it can be simple also"...wow this video was relevant to that statement

  • @starexplorers1202
    @starexplorers1202 4 місяці тому

    To be fair I learned more from writing books about subjects that were of interest to me then any class I could take at school. I could never ask lots of questions in class because it can be viewed as disruptive or self serving to a student. As if "they" are getting all of the attention from the teacher. There's no way to change the school system unfortunately. Eventually we learn to live in a world of competition and sharing ideas is severely frowned upon by academia anyway. It's always feels like "my idea" when in fact it is not since whatever you read probably was thought of before. It's just that it feels unique to you at that moment. Stay humble and don't diminish others that may not know as much as you. In the end we are remembered by how we treat others not by how big a celebrity we became.

  • @zerodivider4333
    @zerodivider4333 6 років тому +1

    Can this video be shown in every classroom? Early? Great video.

  • @barcelomontamar9283
    @barcelomontamar9283 3 роки тому

    I don't and I do...O prefer I do that everyone and each one of us is a scientist....you choose it or not you are...I am period....happy and satisfied no matter what everyone is a scientist, if they don't know...it is not a waste...it is what it is..... science and unlimited knowledge is right there...love your videos , best regards

  • @illogicmath
    @illogicmath 5 років тому +1

    She put in the same bag Einstein, Hawking and Degrasse Tyson, evidently with a dosis of very funny sarcasm

    • @dgodiex
      @dgodiex 5 років тому

      i hope so

  • @vinceallenmeneses5883
    @vinceallenmeneses5883 6 років тому +61

    einstein pls help, my lil bro swallowed my 64GB memory
    card.
    he's been singing my saved songs the whole day.
    im scared he might
    reach up to my videos.

  • @thstroyur
    @thstroyur 6 років тому +6

    There is is a great point here: science is not exactly like art, where you need to do something outstanding to be considered worthy; in many ways, most of scientists are solely concerned with established science, doing blue-collar, office-routine drudgeries like measuring the IR spectra of terpenes, or the elasticity of noble metals - which don't really require as much hard thinking as you'd imagine (although it _does_ require a solid education). Truth is, science work is mostly boring, but it's important that we have people to do it - and I believe the unembellishment of science as we see from the nice picture of the paradigm shifts, may help to grow STEM workforces - specially in "underdeveloped" countries

    • @thstroyur
      @thstroyur 6 років тому +3

      Actually, I _did_ - I have a degree in Chemistry and I tried my hand at a Masters in Physics, which I failed for a number of reasons - so I know what I'm talking about. The _vast_ majority of science isn't about having breakthroughs, it's about fitting in a few pieces of some larger puzzle, or straight-out following a cookbook recipe. There's also not that much room for creative thinking as you imagine, because that's a luxury many can't afford; publish or perish, and a lotta bureaucratic shit in academia _is_ a reality - and probably even more so in industry, where you get paid to make things that will sell in the long run

    • @thstroyur
      @thstroyur 6 років тому +3

      I'm not saying curiosity has to be sucked outta science - hell, I still wonder how can one quantize gravity, the interpretations of QM, and so on -; what I'm saying is that potential scientists should beware it's not all rainbows and butterflies, which is not unlike any other job (no, real-life forensics is _not_ like CSI, medical practice is _not_ like ...), but at _least_ it is so that they can still join the community and contribute in a meaningful way. I mean, have you ever seen those experimental papers with a 1000+ authors in it?

    • @thstroyur
      @thstroyur 6 років тому +1

      +Maverick Majorani My biggest problem is when capitalism interferes with the human right to have universal knowledge available; go to Springer's website, see how much a single paper or journal issue is, then multiply that by 3 (exchange) to see how much I'd have to pay for it with my own funds, the "legit" way

    • @thstroyur
      @thstroyur 6 років тому

      Prince de Broglie: born a rich aristocrat, wins a Physics Nobel XD
      But I'm always thinking about it: if I never had to worry about the ends, I probably would commit myself more seriously to it >_>°
      *edit* Actually I had more the layperson in mind with the last comment: if you don't _see_ science being done, how can you judge it?

    • @thstroyur
      @thstroyur 6 років тому

      Well, you misread _me_ ; I didn't say "science never gets things done", I said "you never see how science gets done".
      Think of those open kitchen restaurants where you see the chefs prepare your food

  • @stephenlangsl67
    @stephenlangsl67 6 років тому +8

    Thank You for Your inspirational message.

  • @erikpoephoofd
    @erikpoephoofd 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the motivational speech! This helps me cope with college

  • @piyushjain1884
    @piyushjain1884 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much ❤❤🥺🥺🥺

  • @patrickryan1515
    @patrickryan1515 5 років тому

    True, some professors in fact purposely bully students for the benefit of their own inflated egos. The effect limits a student's perception of their capabilities to learn. Perceiving the professor to be SO superior can quite often leave a student with an inferiority complex. An intuitive student can both see through and cut through this crap and thus further their own self development. However, not all students possess this type of intuition or the bravery to be led by it. 5/2019

  • @alexkits2518
    @alexkits2518 3 роки тому

    To be honest when I saw Dr Thaller in the first video that I watched with her I thought to myself “Wow, she’s so beautiful “

  • @nokoolaid
    @nokoolaid 6 років тому +1

    I disagree a little. Some people are more naturally able than others in certain things and it all depends on how good one is in something. Yeah, anyone can learn science, but not everyone will become a researcher or PhD. Same with creative pursuits. I play the drums, but I'll never be on the level of Buddy Rich or half that. Some people do have natural learning abilities in different things and the lucky one develop it. To put it another way, there are multiple intelligences and it varies among the population. Anyway, she's right about science being collaborative. It's become even more so because of the amount of information we now have.

  • @ChaseBoytim
    @ChaseBoytim 3 роки тому

    Love you videos!

  • @elizdonovan1965
    @elizdonovan1965 6 років тому +1

    Excellent talk. Thank you for uploading. 🙂☘️🌲

  • @angelic8632002
    @angelic8632002 6 років тому +3

    Intellectualism has always only been about the subject matter. Everything else is a distraction.
    One would think those more well versed in logical arguments would be more aware of the pitfalls of the human condition. Although I guess overestimating yourself is something we all fight with to some degree.

  • @clintwolf1557
    @clintwolf1557 5 років тому

    Dr. Thaller is fantastic, as always. Thanks.

  • @mr.fahrenheit8185
    @mr.fahrenheit8185 5 років тому

    Very well said doc!

  • @jareda.1353
    @jareda.1353 6 років тому

    I think celebrity scientists are fantastic, its how they teach is the important thing. They all work in teams, they all were normal children who ended up with the right mix of curiosities to become passionate about what they are doing today. The problem is when some of them don't foster more curiosity in regular everyday people.

  • @jrocket98
    @jrocket98 6 років тому

    Thank you Michelle I feel the same way I'm a professional tarot card reader and it's the same thing it's just a language, 2100 meanings for 78 cards, infused with folks personal energies. It really is Illuminating & fascinating at the same time.

  • @stratman103
    @stratman103 5 років тому

    This is an awesome video Michelle. Well said. This is a great life lesson. Not just about science.

  • @CGW129
    @CGW129 3 роки тому

    This was an incredible piece. Well said, and a much needed message for scientists of our current era.

  • @MrBlaq
    @MrBlaq 6 років тому +12

    I’ve made my living as a programmer for the past decade plus. While I agree with the spirit of what she’s saying, I don’t agree with it in practice. Based off my years of observation, with regards programming, most people don’t get it and never will no matter how much time they put into it.

    • @merops
      @merops 6 років тому +1

      MrBlaq those would be people who only program because they have to, in order to get a job. Those who program for fun tend to "get it" naturally, through sheer practice.

    • @MrBlaq
      @MrBlaq 6 років тому +1

      merops most programmers who’ve actively been in the field for 10+ years don’t have fun coding. Programming is a means to an end, the end being the app you intended to create. I am very good at what I do, but fun it is not. And something having to be fun in order for you to become good at it is a falsehood.

    • @JT-xj1pg
      @JT-xj1pg 6 років тому

      MrBlaq nobody cares

    • @AdorkableDev
      @AdorkableDev 6 років тому +2

      As a software developer who fell in love with programming at the age of 14 over 20 years ago, who sunk tens of thousands of dollars into student loans to get a formal education to complement my innate interest, who then went on after college to do tech support for years before finding a job where I could prove my skills and actually get into the field... who has been programming for 24 years and a professional developer for 16 years... I enjoy showing off. Maybe I don't enjoy the minutiae of parsing strings, but I enjoy working with people who appreciate what I do. I enjoy programming because it lets me make a difference to the people around me. And I will always seek work environments where I can make a positive change. Maybe you could talk to a headhunter and see if you can find an environment that you would enjoy?

    • @cridr
      @cridr 6 років тому

      People do not have to "get it" to the level others want them to, to be labeled good or bad. This only means pleasing others. If you generate good results you are good. If in addition to that you personally spend time to improve your knowledge and your live( personal projects ,etc) using that domain, you will get better easier. I am sure that every "great mind" had friends in the field that saw less of them and for good reasons, for specific things. On the other hand, as any domain that provides financial stability we are seeing and increasingly number of people that come to "work/make money" as a programmer, but their hart are for other things. Depending on how much their heart is towards other things, they will not be able to perform at the level of the others that are in love with programming. However saying that "most people don't get and never will" is not smart. Programming is not only about programming, like speech is not only about speech, programming is like a catalyser for all the other things. Looking at all your comments I think you are not the type of programmer other programmers like to work with( do not answer that do us, answer that to yourself). In your last comment about fun .. fun is an umbrella term for interesting,motivating, intriguing, etc .. it is not about parties and sex, so fun is necessary to become good. Actually if you think parties and sex was not important look under the surface at the lives of von Neumann , Einstein and others.

  • @tinyrocks7549
    @tinyrocks7549 6 років тому +4

    Thank you, talk about relatable! The Einstein example, your own journey as a student. I’ve added you to my secret list of role models 😄

  • @Pfoffie
    @Pfoffie 6 років тому +13

    Art has the same problem

    • @JT-xj1pg
      @JT-xj1pg 6 років тому +1

      René Jossen actually no, nowadays the standards of art have been lowered so down that anyone can be considered an artist

    • @Pfoffie
      @Pfoffie 6 років тому

      J T It‘s hard to even value art. Thus yeah to some it may seem like the standards are lower. But it‘s the same with science too: more and more p-hacking and bad studies. Nowadays everyone can publish.

  • @nplm947
    @nplm947 3 роки тому

    Am thrilled to hear her

  • @Dawn_Aramoana63
    @Dawn_Aramoana63 Рік тому

    Inspirational words for the avidly inspired. This woman is fantastic ❤

  • @crappymeal
    @crappymeal 6 років тому +1

    Great talk

  • @richardl6751
    @richardl6751 Рік тому

    She said, "You're a scientist, and you can just ask a question". Start with "why?", then ask "how?"

  • @賴志偉-d7h
    @賴志偉-d7h 5 років тому +1

    The intellect accepts only one authority: reason.

  • @claudiap.6838
    @claudiap.6838 6 років тому

    I know almost nothing about this woman... but I swear I love her.

  • @jacksavage197
    @jacksavage197 5 років тому

    What a role model for all. This woman has class.

  • @meir4586
    @meir4586 2 роки тому

    so true. In most fields, success depends mainly on persistence and investment of time and work

  • @Paradoxicon999
    @Paradoxicon999 5 років тому

    Kudos, Good video

  • @charlesdp
    @charlesdp 5 років тому

    Beautifully said!

  • @graemeroberts2935
    @graemeroberts2935 6 років тому

    Superb! A great gift to human beings.

  • @Kulei666
    @Kulei666 6 років тому +2

    Love that topic!

  • @markarslan18
    @markarslan18 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this...

  • @glaubeco
    @glaubeco 6 років тому

    Great sharing! powerfully...

  • @bongandimeni7110
    @bongandimeni7110 6 років тому

    Thanks you so much for this

  • @illogicmath
    @illogicmath 5 років тому

    Haha, I'm happy that you mentioned Neil Degrasse Tyson.
    Without wanting to detract from his merits, I consider that what he is really good for is to entertain. He is an ocean of knowledge one inch deep

    • @kookamunga2458
      @kookamunga2458 5 років тому

      Neil is a good science ambassador. The way he presents astronomy and physics is appealing and he knows enough about the subject matter without leaving us in the dark . Julius Sumdimiller was very interesting also having been a pupil of Albert Einstein. So the story goes .

  • @manaskumarhaldar2725
    @manaskumarhaldar2725 3 роки тому

    Celebrities can be useful for inspiring children. But one should be told that one does not have to be an einstein or michaelangelo etc.

  • @grimjowjaggerjak
    @grimjowjaggerjak 6 років тому +3

    I wanted to be an astrophysicist when i was younger but i always though that i was way too stupid to do that so i studied audiovisual instead.

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER 3 роки тому

    2:22 ya, I think science is the language of truth.. it's that simple..

  • @PerryWagle
    @PerryWagle Рік тому +1

    Where did you get the idea that Einstein was a professor in 1905?

  • @fabiosunspot1112
    @fabiosunspot1112 5 років тому

    I love her, wonderful teacher.

  • @ogelsmogel
    @ogelsmogel 2 роки тому

    Well said!

  • @zerge69
    @zerge69 6 років тому +1

    Smart people like her don’t understand that there are less smart people who do not have the mental horsepower to understand complex scientific principles.

    • @kurtscholz7431
      @kurtscholz7431 5 років тому

      You can work yourself methodically through very difficult stuff. The question is how much time and effort you invest.

  • @courtlaw1
    @courtlaw1 3 роки тому

    The only thing I am disappointed about is that there are not enough mad scientist doing back alley super science.

  • @tongmaa
    @tongmaa 5 років тому

    "Time" does not "Slow-up" when you/an object approaches the speed-of-light. An observer, on Earth, viewing a 'Clock' on a ship traveling at the speed-of-light observes the impression that that clock has slowed because of the "Time" the light takes to get back to the observer. "Time" is a variable measurement of the duration of some process, and not a physical object that can be slowed or sped-up; except you change the variable of time used; e.g. seconds, minutes, microseconds, etc.
    As for "Gravity" it is still not defined, because space, in the presence of mass is claimed (theorized) to bend, but what bends is not defined. What about space can "Bend/Curve" in the presence of mass, and why can't this effect be demonstrated in the laboratory? Is the Earth expanding away from the Moon at the speed-of-light, because that is evidently how fast the edges of the universe are so expanding ...? Or, is the curvature of space absent inside of a solar system? Then how about our expansion away from Proxima Centauri? How fast is that? What rate of expansion in our local group? Does "Gravity" travel at the speed-of-light? Evidently, its "Gravity Waves" move that fast, or slowly, but we stay glued to our Sun, somehow ...
    But, I agree with Big Think, it is intimidating to have to reason the claims made by Science, and wonder at the contradictions presented by the Standard Model of Cosmological theorists: There was "Space" and when "Mass" was introduced to "Space" it caused "Space" to bend/curve to redirect light around massive objects in space ... that sort of "Genius" is hard to understand; notwithstanding the circularity of logic introduced by those claims. Einstein as "God" the Creator of Space/Time Continuum ... or is it "Science Fiction" which allows different kinds of "Black Holes" to exist in different kinds of "Universes" theorized for each?

  • @BoomBoom-ym5oy
    @BoomBoom-ym5oy 6 років тому

    You made me cry.

  • @JKDVIPER
    @JKDVIPER 2 роки тому

    5:55 The art of science

  • @asn65001
    @asn65001 5 років тому

    Probably one of the best videos that I've seen in the past year