When it comes to Elizabeth I, what sticks in my mind the most is a quote from the documentary series 'Simon Schama's A History of Britain', where he says, "It doesn't do to be too starry-eyed about the Virgin Queen. Elizabeth the First was only too obviously made of flesh and blood. She was vain, spiteful, arrogant. She was frequently unjust and she was often maddeningly indecisive. But she was also brave, shockingly clever, an eyeful to look at and, on occasions, she was genuinely wise. In other words, she had all the qualities it took to make the genius politician she undoubtedly was."
It's a common problem with historical figures altogether, but especially women. It's as if the idea of women being multifaceted and in possession of their own rich internal lives and motivations has never occurred to people.
There's literally a scene depicting Elizabeth as an angel of God wearing white fighting the dark forces of Spain where Philip wore black. I think historic accuracy went out the window with that one.
To be fair, Elizabeth did like wearing white, and black was the accustomed color for court clothing, especially in Spain. (An extremely expensive color to dye, it showed off the wealth of the wearer.) But the scene was silly on its own, that's for sure.
@@billyparr3901 specially because no way Felipe would let his daughters rule. The man married 4 times and possibly let his first son be killed because he wanted the perfect male heir. Cue to Felipe III, the first of many idiots who ruled
I just wanted to point something out to people that showed me how much Nick cares about the quality of his videos. The guy makes £1700 on Patreon, but not monthly like almost every other creator, but per history buffs video. Now, for someone in this for the money, they'd be putting out at least a video a month, maybe two. Nick however, goes months without an upload because he cares about the quality of content he gives us. Dunno why I felt the need to point this out but it surprised me and I think he deserves credit for it. Also seeing as that money is per video I think we should try and bump it up higher, he certainly deserves it.
Yeah, it's great to find someone who really cares about what they're doing. Him and Fredrick Knudsen of "Down the Rabbit Hole" have a lot of passion for this.
I didn't even know that was an option until I deemed him worthy and granted him a share of my gold a few minutes ago. The few others I patron are by the month.
@@RazthorFodring agree, having your character be, say, in a ww1 trench for hours and hours just for them to be sniped the moment they get up would be a rather realistic depiction of war, but it certainly wouldn't be entertaining
You know, instead of teachers putting Elizabeth as a "historical movie" for students, they should put History Buffs video exposing the film for its inaccuracies
What they should do is show "historical movies" then at the end ask so hands up who thinks that was an accurate historical movie (for the most part at least), see what students say and then put one of History buffs videos about the movie they all just watched and blow them all away with the truth .
@@ProwlingTiger1 i would show these movies to my class, and then as homework make them find as many inaccuracies as they can with a minimum of 5 per movie. it would force them to engage in the history and find out the truth for themselves in ways they choose, and then after they're done i would show a video like this to show them others they might've missed. from my own experience in school, just showing or telling kids is a failed way of teaching, cause i only remember the things i figured out for myself or looked up for homework. and yes this could be just my way of learning and might not work for other kids these days, it has been around 13 years since i was in school so things mightve changed alot, although i highly doubt it.
I actually had something like that in my 8th grade science class, we watched the movie armageddon towards the end of our physics unit. But the catch was that our teacher gave us papers where we used what we learned to point out inaccuracies with the science of the movie
I say they should show whatever movies they want and then show the corresponding history buffs video after to clear up and bullshit so the kids can take actual factual notes without being mislead historically.
Queen Elizabeth was an incredible monarch, and a very impressive person. But she is done no favors by having all of this fictitious nonsense told about her. She’s impressive enough on her own merits.
Neither of these movies were bad. there are some ad lib license - as not all movies are never right on - so this particular episode of History Buffs - is incorrect
@@jamesalexander5623 And yet I'd call less bullshit on that line than the one Mel Gibson said. Even when I was a kid I called bullshit on that, saying, "Freedom can be taken away. And even if freedom can't be taken, why are you fighting for it?"
I remember this movie being included in my history book and lessons back in middle school. We were shown the movie, and then as a homework we had to find out it's historical inaccuracies. Quite an eye opener for me though; I thought most movies were faithful, but this made me realize there was a lot of dramatization in movies.
@@pambromley7481Tbh, there are some events that are amazingly too true to have actually happened. But they did, and it would be nice if movies were faithful to the truth.
The one accurate thing in that movie was Elizabeth. Dench played her spot on - she absolutely would have spoken with that level of slapdown to anyone who dared presume. In a few minutes, she stole the entire movie, and deserved that Oscar!
The second I saw King Phillip, all I thought about was him absconding away into some secret, futuristic dungeon to give instructions to his Time Traveling Conquistadors to show up in Apocalypto.
I think the fact Ben Elton is Tudor expert GR Elton's Nephew, High Laurie has a degree in archaeology and the others are all huge fans of history *cough* Time Team *cough* makes it all rather less weird. haha
I just knew the movies about Elizabeth were historically inaccurate. I was always suspicious about the lack of lord Blackadder who was, perhaps, the most significant historical figure in UK's history.
Well I believe that it could be argued that the Spanish’s feelings toward Francis Drake as a pirate are justified considering that he had broke many of the rules that privateers were supposed to adhere to and was never punished by Elizabeth. Not to mention that privateers were not supposed to be utilized when countries were not openly at war.
@@ruthiehenshallfan99 Dissecting those would be fun....Glenda Jackson played Elizabeth in 1971's Mary, Queen of Scots and also in 1971 the BBC miniseries Elizabeth R....six episodes! I'd like to hear his analysis as I had thought that Elizabeth R was closer to history. Interesting in that in MQOS, Elizabeth is sort of presented as the villain and Mary is presented sympathetically. .....in Elizabeth R, she is obviously the protagonist and Mary is clearly the villain. And Glenda Jackson was so awesome in both.
I had just watched this the other day and the entire time I was questioning story changes. The story between Rizzo and Darney made no sense and wasn't in any way based on facts.
List of movies I’d love to see you review: Glory (1989) Rough Riders MiniSeries (1997) Gangs of New York (2002) Gods and Generals (2003) Lincoln (2003) Love your videos and could barely believe that I’d been awake when you uploaded a new video!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
I'd also like to see a review of The Messenger; Luc Besson movie about Joan of Arc. Not the Leelee Sobiesky one cuz that one does not have Dustin Hoffman satanic-like conscience cringing at the thought of a sword falling from the sky.
As much as Henry VIII wanted a son, Elizabeth was most like him. She could “play the game”, just like him, make everyone admire her, but she was also ruthless. Every step she took was politically motivated. Elizabeth did nothing that wasn’t planned or thought out. She was brilliant and knew exactly what she wanted.
You don't give her enough credit. Henry was a thug, he was an Al Capone. His wife Catherine ran the country for large portions of his reign and was beloved for a good reason. He on the other hand was all about ego.
@@markjustdiditc what? He was extremely popular. And while not successful in the warrior king of his fantasy he did navigate England safely through the reformation.
As a teacher, I would show scenes from this film as a way to give pupils a visual idea of what people looked like and how parts of life functioned. But I sure as hell wouldn't use it to teach history. It is a good visual aid, but certainly not something you'd want people to take seriously. Any teacher who would show this film to a class as a factual aid is doing a huge disservice to their class and I would suspect that it would be more a way to kill class time.
To be honest, even the visual stuff isn't entirely accurate- the are a hybrid of renaissance dress and medieval castles and buildings. The creators of these films actually addressed this and said they were looking to create a sort of "timelessness" or something to that effect.
It seems to me that what teachers should actually start doing is show episodes of History Buffs. I remember more from this show than I ever did from school.
@@charlesajones77 Never were truer words written. I hated every single history class all throughout elementary, junior and high school. Now I love history thanks to finding presenters like Nick.
The fact that History Buffs managed to work in the classic meme of "Why You Always Lyin" into this video is in itself a masterstroke. Coalescing in as Clive Owen speaks...*Chef's Kiss*
Diego E.S. Its heroes are pirates, its sovereigns are predatory degenerates, its rulers are financiers and oligarchs, its legacy: the proliferation of a good language
@Caramel Johnson Privateers ARE Pirates. Also privateers are mercenaries. Sir Francis Drake and his Elizabethan contemporaries, despite common misconception,are Corsairs, as they worked directly for the British Establishment and had government funding. Privateers only were paid according to what plunder they stole from enemy ships and/or whatever stolen goods they could sell. Both could receive Letters of Marq but one is basically a condotierro and the other is the nautical equivalent of an Irregular platoon
I kinda want him to do the movie Red Tails, because even though the movie is terrible, the story of the Tuskigee Airmen, the first all Black fighter squadron on the US airforce, is definitely worth discussing
"Elizabeth the Golden Age" is certainly one of the worst cinematic English history atrocities. It manages to present just as many blatant falsehoods as "Braveheart" while being far less entertaining.
it's a movie not an historical text---the performances were fantantic----catholic and jews hated it ---the catholics for obvious reasons and the jews because it shows nationalism
@@camerocar Spoken like a true non-historian. Any film based in a historical period is a historical text. At least Blackadder embraces its fantastical elements.
@@dreamcrusher112 oh really!!!hollywood has never deviated from historical veracity in depicting a particular episode in history???? i do not pretend to be an historian neither should you pretend to be a movie critic
@@camerocar the problem is that it is not only super duper historically inaccurate but boring asf as well cate Blanchett was the one that carried this turd of a movie
Another reason against the absurd showing of Merry Queen of Scots being locked in a castle in Scotland in the movie is because she came to England after she escaped Scotland, losing to the rebellious Scottish lords which later on served as plaintiffs in the prosecution against her. The outcome of this trial served as the very reason why she was held hostage by Elizabeth.
14:07 The idea that Philip II caused and unprecedented deforestation in Spain is completely false and is based on a popular legend that says that he was the one who destroyed the supposed forests of Monegros (a semi-desert area in northeast Spain) to build the Armada. However, numerous geologists and botanists have shown that the scarce rains and the salinity of the soil in Monegros prevent the growth of trees, so there was never a forest there to begin with. The most important element in peninsular deforestation was the extension of agriculture, which led to the indiscriminate cutting of trees to gain territory to the forests, while the wood for shipbuilding was imported from Scandinavia, therefore maintaining the English Channel open to Spanish commercial traffic was of vital importance for the construction of ships.
A good point, but did the majority of wood really come from Scandinavia? I've read that the Spanish and Portuguese cut down entire forests in the Americas, because tropical wood was much more suitable for shipbuilding. Is that a myth or did that just happen later in the colonial era?
@@GrafSchocola I don't know about Portugal, but in the spanish case the impact of the diseases bring with the spanish settlers in the XVI century was so huge that the death of millions of native inhabitats left 56 million hectares abandoned, leading to the growth of new forests and a reduction in levels of CO2, which in turn contributed to the cooling of the Earth by around 0.15 ºC in the late 16th century and early 17th century. Also take into account that at this time the spanish trade with the Americas was fundamentally based in exporting manufactured objects (glass, tools, weapons) and animals or plants for cultivation (horses, pigs, cows, wheat, sugar cane, etc.) while Spain imported mainly silver, gold and food related stuff (potatoes, tomatoes, etc). Some places in Patagonia or the western coasts of South America (like Chiloe, for example) did live from wood exportation though logging had no significant impact since the technology for cutting trees and processing them was very rudimentary, the forests were gigantic all around the continent, and the population that lived from logging for boat production was very small. Either way and generally speaking, wood was not a priority for exportation in the XVI century since the construction of ships was done in Europe, wood wasted space in the ships (which would be better used for storaging something more valuable) and it could be obtained in Escandinavia via Flanders. This changed latter in the XVIII century, when the Spanish Empire lost all his territories in Europe out of the iberian peninsula and then the American colonies became a new supply of wood.
That ridiculous idea start with the lack of knowledge about Iberian forests in the past and nowadays. There are big forest regions in Spain, covering bigger areas than any in Great Britain in the last 4000 years. However you are wrong about shipbuilding: The wood imported for shipbuilding always was a minority, while the ship direct purchase was a little more common in some periods. The core of spanish oceanic ships in second half of XVI century, those of american trade and the warships were officially built (in a forced monopoly) in the Basque shipyards with local woods. In the last decade of XVI century and first ones of the XVII, a significant amount of ships, to the maximum of around a third in some years, were directly purchased to other countries, not because the lack of woods but because the practicality and speed supplying a huge amoung of big vessels in the peak of spanish-american trade (there were more "voyages" and ships involved in spanish-american trade only in 50 years, 1580-1630, than dutch VOC had in 200 years trading with Asia...) while 2 remaining thirds continued to be built in basque country. However andalusian traders of atlantic South coast, were in a continous trade battle with basques, so after decades including some "illegal" ships in spanish fleets or including forced late-works in southern shipyards (because the american trade, emigration or defence insitituions were in Seville) , andalusians closely linked with local criollo traders, started to promote shipbuilding in Cuba and other american shipyards, so in the rest of XVII century and a great part of XVIII century, the biggest part in spanish proper shipbuilding pass to the Americas.
@Asier Linazasoro Indeed, basque shipyards + few others in Cantabria formed an official monopoly in oceanic shipbuilding (american trade + warships) since first decades of XVI century. The official reason was the abundance of northern oak timber and the expertise of basque shipbuilders, however was probably partially an excuse (there was southern atlantic shipbuilding tradition and other timber possibilities as the cork oak, that e.g. portuguese use the most) to officially include basques in american trade as a part of the cargo was reserved to shipbuilders. That was the crown first desire, in reality neither basque iron + shipbuilding nor andalusian general trade monopolies were truly effective and closed and other actors slowly intruced themselves in that huge economic context. In regard shipbuilding, in central decades of XVI century most ships were basque built, in last decades of that century and first decades of XVII c. in the peak of spanish-american trade, 1580-1630 approx., the crown started to buy directly some ships to other countries, because the demand of big ships in those years was huge, for example the Fleet and Galleons system trading in big convoys with America used more ships in those 40-50 years that the famous Dutch East India Company in 200 years! And besides american trade fleet we still must count the 8-9 simultaneous big war navies also included in basque monopoly. Since 1620s the American shipyards started to produce a great part of those vessels and finally in the XVIII century other iberian shipyards were added also.
@@zrolyn6367 Can i make a movie about how the holocaust didn't happen and say "it's just a movie?", i'm not saying what that movie is doing would be on that level, but it sets a dangerous precedent to say "It's just a movie". Movies inform the ignorant public about these historical figures, so if they see it in a movie that claims to be historical they will believe it.
@@blasvega8826 i do also..... my teachers read from the history books which were usually 20 to 30 years old.... . due to republicans slashing the schools budget.... using "they teach fake news and fake history" as an excuse... to cut the budget... . . like.... why would you EVER cut a schools budget.... or a teachers pay? that just seems insane to me . . . PS.... im not a democrat..... (or "lib-tard") and i DAMN sure am not a "trump-tard) . its almost like i vote for who is going to help out PEOPLE LIKE ME over a red or blue jersey.... this isnt football / soccer..... where "your" team can do no wrong (it was the refs bad call.... we dont suck.... fake news!!!!) . its peoples lives we are voting on....
@@kainhall I don't think teachers make history or teach history based on how much funds they get. I think it's based on their personal beliefs. For example, right now you have parents being mad that schools are teaching critical race theory, antiracism or white privilege. Other places you have teachers who want to teach white kids that they are at fault for being white and should give up things they work for to blacks in an attempt to equalize it. So I think it depends on the teacher and not necessarily funding as to which teacher just plays a movie and which ones reads from the book. P.s. not against school fundings. But there is a need for reform in how schools are funded.
I was shown this movie not 2 hours ago in history class. I was skeptical of how many events were happening in what looked to be months. Good thing I did!
Movies you should review imo. Some are good others are inaccurate or funny: Downfall (2004) The Darkest Hour (2016) Emperor (2012) Lincoln (2012) Glory (1989) Creation (2009) All the Way (2016) Invictus (2009) J Edgar (2011) Hyde Park on Hudson (2012) The Alamo (2004) Pearl Harbor... *the Michael bay one* Bill and Ted's Excellent Adbenture
thanks for reviewing this. after watching "Elizabeth" in the theater I was unwilling to torment myself any further by watching the sequel. I'll just re-watch Glenda Jackson's brilliant portrayal in the BBC series yet again.
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"Would you be interested in a trade agreement with England?"
Thanks for confirming these movies are as far from history as I believed! And thanks for always bringing such quality materials! Two things. One: the true value of Drake's journey around America was mapping out the New World, since Spain was the only one in possession of maps of South America and the whole Pacific Coast, and they were kept as a top state secret. Two: San Juan de Ulúa is the name of the fortress at the entrace of Veracruz harbor, it was the biggest stronghold in New Spain, protecting it's oldest city and busiest harbor.
I would love to see you tackle The Tudors one day, Nick. Of course that would be a series of videos because there's a lot of real history to untangle from the common myths of Henry VIII's reign, but still.
Of all the inaccuracies in The Tudors, the one that still annoys me that they made the 'artistic decision' not to have Henry VIII get fat and old, because they picked a hunky leading man. He was a literal monster, and by the end he was obese, syphilitic, impotent and had weeping open sores... But they seemed to not actually plan for that when they went into it as 'Tudor Times But Sexy featuring Henry 'look-at-his-calves-in-them-tights' VIII'
Thibaud Duhamel, she even wears the same gothic armour, even though Joan of Arc lived far earlier. Elisabeth would have probably worn a black and silver breastplate. Btw. Nick has even got such a breastplate in the background.
Finally signed up for Curiosity Stream today with your promo code after sifting through the slimming pickings of Netflix and Disney+ for months. It was like finding buried treasure. I already have almost 100 docs in my watchlist to keep me occupied between History Buffs uploads. 10/10 would recommend.
Film's that I'm waiting on: Chernobyl Last of the Mohicans Schindlers List Spartacus The Irishman Full Metal Jacket Admiral Michael Collins Gandhi Valkyrie Downfall Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom The Iron Lady The Hunt for Red October Those are just a few to say the least, but yeah, something as impactful and influencial to history and cinema such as "Elizabeth the Golden Age" is far more important. Do your thing.
@@Serai3ngl, I've been reading a book about the various plots with a focus on the lives of the agents who foiled them, and I'd really love to see *that* turned into a TV show as well. Or even just any kind of fiction about it; I feel like stories about this era tend to be entirely biopic-style stuff about Elizabeth... or, for some reason, a bunch of stories that are loosely inspired by the espionage angle, but using it as the backdrop for an original character noir protagonist solving crimes, more than anything. Like, I went looking up historical fiction about the espionage scene and it was just a whole bunch of those and not much else.
16:54 That portrait of Ivan the Terrible is based on a 19th century painting by Victor Vasnetsov, and it looks nothing like an actual 16th century Russian portrait.
HBO, nothing from HBO sucked, they are pretty accurate, the videography is on point. They would make it an entertaining historical easy to watch miniseries.
In France we had a king crowned at his birth, because his father died while the queen was pregnant XD Well, as childs often did in this time, he died a few months after his birth ^^
I remember when getting my master's in history one of my professors said while Virgin Queen was a powerful movie he was frightened that HS teachers would use it to teach history. He had us read a short 6 page synopsis on inaccuracies+ prior to class. Late middle ages and renaissance monarchs were not comic book super heroes. They pretty much all did what we would want a modern politician to be impeached for today.
HE'S BACK! Not strictly a film but could you consider Robert Carlye's : Hitler: The rise of evil. Would love this to get the History Buff's treatment. Anyway peace out dude, great content as usual.
I've seen that series a few times and while very interesting and yes, sorta good for him to cover, I think now *isn't* the time to draw attention to Nazi history that portrays it and Hitler in anything even approaching a semi-sympathetic light (which it VERY much does).
@@Rangercaptain1138 I wouldn't say it approachis him in a sem-sympathetic light. It shines a line on the person of Hitler, rather than the symbol he has become. It reminds me of an essay I had to write in school, after watching "der Untergang" in history class. Topic: "Do you feel Hitler is portrayed as being too human". My reply was: "No, because he WAS a human being. To deny Hitler was a human, is to deny humanity is capable of such atrocities, and actually downplays the events that happened". Well, it was a bit longer than that, but you get the basic idea. Single essay/task/test/exam I ever failed in history... As for the series itself. It kind of does a good job portraying him. Because while he acts 'normal' for most of the film, you get to see glimpses of him acting in such a way that leaves all bystanders in shock. Such as when he starts beating that dog in the trenches because it did not perform the trick he wanted it to perform. In my opinion (and it is just an opinion) it shows a person with serious issues, who pretends to be 'normal', lets his mask slip from time to time, becomes more and more arrogant as time progresses and finds himself elevated to the position where he no longer needs to keep himself in check, and lets loose all evil that lurks within. It's more of a warning: be careful who you elect to power, and make very, very sure it is a stable person. A lesson not always headed, I'm afraid...
Woke up an hour ago. Not looking forward to another boring day in isolation and... what's this? A new History Buffs Video? Awesome! The day is definitely looking up!
28:20 Well great now I can't stop thinking that Palpatine was only part of the queen's council to gain her trust to eventually take over the Republic...I mean kingdom.
Although Come And See is nothing like Saving Private Ryan, it gave me a similar feeling by the end. Both movies will make you feel drained, emotionally taxed, depressed, repulsed, but at the same time awestruck and filled with a newfound respect for the events on which they're based.
Meh. I prefer Queenie saying "Where's my pressie??" "I'll cut off your head if you don't make me laugh!" "I'm bored. Let's behead someone." "Ahoy sir walter! Bucko to see you! Oh matey!!" And of course...the greatest sailor, solider, and explorer in all of empire! LORD FLASHEART!!!
I'd love it if you took a long look at The Lion in Winter (Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn). It's a classic story with fantastic actors. I'd love to get your perspective on the accuracy and watchability of the film.
I have to say, Nick, you have a brilliant way with narrative history, with lots of smart analysis and some nice jokes. History Buffs is a fantastic channel.
Is there any proof to the rumor that she personally requested the services of Jack Sparrow but was forced to withdraw the request after Amber Heard gave her a black eye?
As a man from Sweden I feel some how offended by this movie handling of Erik XIV, WTF!! He was as you said dead, plus he was already King and married to Karin(eng. Catherine) Månsdotter. As always Nick great work :D
He did want to marry her at one point though, even sent a full size portrait of himself to her. The main idea was to unite two of the protestant kingdoms in Europe against an increasingly militant catholic league.
To me The Golden Age is a guilty pleasure. I find it rather unusual that two movies in a "franchise" shot by same director have such a different tone, but while (to me) the first Elizabeth is aggressively unpleasant, The Golden Age has a very ambient, almost dreamlike atmosphere.
"Madre de Deus" was actually a portuguese ship, not spanish. Even though that the portuguese king at the time was the Phillip II of Spain, the kingdom and empire's administration was kept separate from the rest of his possessions.
All the kingdoms in the spanish empire were administered differently from each other, Portugal was no different from Castille, Aragon or Naples for example
@@acusticamenteconvusional9936 I know. Still, the Portuguese, in the first decades of the Iberian union, had a few more liberties than the other territories. In fact, the correct concept is Iberian Union, which suggests a dynastic union and not a complete annexation. The administration had to be completely portuguese, as an example of the said liberties.
Would you ever consider The Longest Day? The amount of actors in it that served in WW2. Richard Todd for 1. Was actually in the battle he played the main character. However with all the detail. It may be a 2 or even 3 parter. It's a epic. Lol
Samuel Barber Have mercy! I had to try twice before I got through it, myself. I wonder if Nick would make a reference to the magically non-aging Mary & her ladies?
"If someone picks up a history book to check, I have done my job." Me: *Picks up An Historical and Geographical Description of Formosa, an Island subject to the Emperor of Japan and the Histories of the Kings of Britain.
The third movie was even more inaccurate. She goes to Asgard, takes it over and creates a zombie army.
Lol good one mate 🧉
say what you will about that
but it did have the biggest lightning bolt in the history of lightning
@@raxsavvage very very frightening
@@dzonbrodi514 GALILEO!
Where can I rent that movie?!??? Or can I torrent it? Any links???
When it comes to Elizabeth I, what sticks in my mind the most is a quote from the documentary series 'Simon Schama's A History of Britain', where he says, "It doesn't do to be too starry-eyed about the Virgin Queen. Elizabeth the First was only too obviously made of flesh and blood. She was vain, spiteful, arrogant. She was frequently unjust and she was often maddeningly indecisive. But she was also brave, shockingly clever, an eyeful to look at and, on occasions, she was genuinely wise. In other words, she had all the qualities it took to make the genius politician she undoubtedly was."
Lakrids Pibe Hello, fellow Blackadder fan! 😃👍
K Saunders A clownish eyeful
It's a common problem with historical figures altogether, but especially women. It's as if the idea of women being multifaceted and in possession of their own rich internal lives and motivations has never occurred to people.
The madness and dull parts were her slow lead poisoning.....
There's literally a scene depicting Elizabeth as an angel of God wearing white fighting the dark forces of Spain where Philip wore black. I think historic accuracy went out the window with that one.
To be fair, Elizabeth did like wearing white, and black was the accustomed color for court clothing, especially in Spain. (An extremely expensive color to dye, it showed off the wealth of the wearer.) But the scene was silly on its own, that's for sure.
@@Serai3 Spaniards had it coming!
And unlike Napo III, she didn't lose the big one.
The legend himself graces us in our darkest hour like a Gandalf of historical accuracy. You're a king amongst men
KING AMONGST KINGS! THE EMPEROR OF ALL EMPERORS! THE GOD OF ALL!!! PRAISE BE MY FELLOW HISTORY _BUFFFFFFFFFFFFZZZZ_
Long live the king of history
Hail to the Pope of History
No, it was the return of the king.
i believe he is what the british call a "lad"
"My daughter, would you like to be Queen of... *looks at camera* England"
Play the Seinfeld theme
Cue the dramatic music.
Dammit! I wish I thought of that 😆
@@HistoryBuffs I think that's worth an edit and re-post! I would watch it all again just for that!
That moment was so stupid
@@billyparr3901 specially because no way Felipe would let his daughters rule. The man married 4 times and possibly let his first son be killed because he wanted the perfect male heir. Cue to Felipe III, the first of many idiots who ruled
"The Other Boleyn Girl" and the latest "Mary Queen of Scots" would make a great addition to this subject.
I came to the comments to say exactly this.
I actually liked those movies, but although i don't know the accurate history, i can somtimes feel...creative liberties
“The Other Boleyn Girl” was an absolute mess historically speaking 🤦♀️
There was an older movie with Richard Burton as King Henry 8. I wonder if that one was any accurate.
@@HamanKarn567 You probably mean "Anne of the Thousand Days". That would indeed make a great video too.
I just wanted to point something out to people that showed me how much Nick cares about the quality of his videos.
The guy makes £1700 on Patreon, but not monthly like almost every other creator, but per history buffs video.
Now, for someone in this for the money, they'd be putting out at least a video a month, maybe two.
Nick however, goes months without an upload because he cares about the quality of content he gives us.
Dunno why I felt the need to point this out but it surprised me and I think he deserves credit for it. Also seeing as that money is per video I think we should try and bump it up higher, he certainly deserves it.
Yeah, it's great to find someone who really cares about what they're doing. Him and Fredrick Knudsen of "Down the Rabbit Hole" have a lot of passion for this.
I didn't even know that was an option until I deemed him worthy and granted him a share of my gold a few minutes ago. The few others I patron are by the month.
He is indeed a hard-working, admirable guy.
or hes just too lazy to post every month :D
Your comment has made me respect Nick even more.
"And already happily married to his niece..."
I swear, the Hapsburg family tree is a circle.
The family shrub
They really liked incest
Yes... because they tried to keep it in the family most of the time... funny enough a lot of the kings in europe ended up quite inbred..
Lol! That's awesome👍
@@DaDARKPass Wow, how interesting, someone should make a joke about that...
"History can get in the way of a good story." The history is always a better story!
yes and no, history is made by human nature and human nature is just too unpredictable not all of history is a good story specially in a movie.
@@RazthorFodring agree, having your character be, say, in a ww1 trench for hours and hours just for them to be sniped the moment they get up would be a rather realistic depiction of war, but it certainly wouldn't be entertaining
Depends on what you mean by "story".
sure thing pal, a pharaoh dying from teeth pain is so much better!
You know, instead of teachers putting Elizabeth as a "historical movie" for students, they should put History Buffs video exposing the film for its inaccuracies
What they should do is show "historical movies" then at the end ask so hands up who thinks that was an accurate historical movie (for the most part at least), see what students say and then put one of History buffs videos about the movie they all just watched and blow them all away with the truth .
@@ProwlingTiger1 i would show these movies to my class, and then as homework make them find as many inaccuracies as they can with a minimum of 5 per movie.
it would force them to engage in the history and find out the truth for themselves in ways they choose, and then after they're done i would show a video like this to show them others they might've missed.
from my own experience in school, just showing or telling kids is a failed way of teaching, cause i only remember the things i figured out for myself or looked up for homework.
and yes this could be just my way of learning and might not work for other kids these days, it has been around 13 years since i was in school so things mightve changed alot, although i highly doubt it.
I actually had something like that in my 8th grade science class, we watched the movie armageddon towards the end of our physics unit. But the catch was that our teacher gave us papers where we used what we learned to point out inaccuracies with the science of the movie
I say they should show whatever movies they want and then show the corresponding history buffs video after to clear up and bullshit so the kids can take actual factual notes without being mislead historically.
@@RanRayu that's actually a really really good idea and extra credit if all are found or an additional 5 is found lol
It's been 84 years...
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Buffoonus Troglodytus I’ll call Joe
Obed A. Ruvalcaba JOE? JOE WHO?
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@@buffoonustroglodytus4688 I'll call yuri
Queen Elizabeth was an incredible monarch, and a very impressive person. But she is done no favors by having all of this fictitious nonsense told about her. She’s impressive enough on her own merits.
You are to be blessed.
Yes, it was "impressive" how many Irish she murdered.
@@NerdilyDone Unfortunately, yes. Killing the Irish was essentially a sport among English monarchs and she got the high score.
I mean you can be a complete monster and still be impressive about it. Impressive doesn't mean "good". It just means.. ...impressive 😂
The Helen Mirren miniseries is FAR better. That's the one that should be taught in schools.
Funny blackadder seems more accurate than these movies
Gott'a love a bit of slack bladder...I mean blackadder :p
Mynanship Hep
Neither of these movies were bad. there are some ad lib license - as not all movies are never right on - so this particular episode of History Buffs - is incorrect
@harbl99 "Prove it!"
@@michellarabie7169 These videos are analyzing historical accuracy. This move is NOT historically accurate, so, it is not incorrect, you are.
God, they really just wanted to have a Braveheart stirring speech moment with Elizabeth on a horse, didn't they?
" They Can Take Your Lives! .... But They Can Never Take MY MAKEUP! "
Good one James🤣👍
@@jamesalexander5623 And yet I'd call less bullshit on that line than the one Mel Gibson said. Even when I was a kid I called bullshit on that, saying, "Freedom can be taken away. And even if freedom can't be taken, why are you fighting for it?"
The speech to the troops at Tilbury is historically accurate. Although, I get your point.
Nice vid
I remember this movie being included in my history book and lessons back in middle school. We were shown the movie, and then as a homework we had to find out it's historical inaccuracies. Quite an eye opener for me though; I thought most movies were faithful, but this made me realize there was a lot of dramatization in movies.
Movies have to pay their way, which they wouldn't by sticking to a dry and often complex history lesson. Totally different genre.
@@pambromley7481Tbh, there are some events that are amazingly too true to have actually happened. But they did, and it would be nice if movies were faithful to the truth.
history buffs: NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE HISTORICAL EVENTS AND MOVE THEM AROUND ITS NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE
queen elizabeth: ha ha ship go woosh
The joke is that Blackadder portrayed Elizabeth more accurately
So was the episode of Doctor Who where she almost got replaced by a zygon and ended up marrying The Doctor.
Bullwine85 Was thinking the same thing.
My god I hope he reviews the Blackadder series 😂😂
lol
haha
My history class had it worst; they showed us “Shakespeare in Love” even as a uninformed teenager I was like “why?”
Because the teacher wanted a day off, that’s why
“An”. Not “a””. Really?
@@matthewsparks568 does it really hurt your feelings that much that he forgot one letter? 💀
The one accurate thing in that movie was Elizabeth. Dench played her spot on - she absolutely would have spoken with that level of slapdown to anyone who dared presume. In a few minutes, she stole the entire movie, and deserved that Oscar!
@@matthewsparks568 Jeez, pissy much?
"Finally I can go to sle-"
*Posts Elizabeth The Golden Age*
"ep right after this video."
same
Can’t believe they left out the part where she married David Tennant
Red Ranger Rob 👍👏👏
Still would have been more historically accurate than this c$%^.
She didn't marry David Tennant. She married THE DOCTOR!!! LOL
Hmm... this means Queen Elizabeth had direct involvement in the end of the last Great Time War.
@@k1productions87 she marry who?
The second I saw King Phillip, all I thought about was him absconding away into some secret, futuristic dungeon to give instructions to his Time Traveling Conquistadors to show up in Apocalypto.
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The Ministry of Time.
I want this to be a thing now. just turn all these films into straight up Sci-fi Alternate history like Wolfenstein the New Order.
Is it weird that Blackadder was probably more historically accurate.
I understand we have substantial literate and archaeological evidence to prove that the cunning plans actually did occur as depicted
Why didn't they do a Victorian Blackadder?
Ferrule Bezel Well the Christmas special, Blackadder’s Christmas Carol was set in the Victorian age.
I think the fact Ben Elton is Tudor expert GR Elton's Nephew, High Laurie has a degree in archaeology and the others are all huge fans of history *cough* Time Team *cough* makes it all rather less weird. haha
@@gezzarandom Forgot about that one. Too bad it wasn't the beginning of a series.
I just knew the movies about Elizabeth were historically inaccurate. I was always suspicious about the lack of lord Blackadder who was, perhaps, the most significant historical figure in UK's history.
Tl2aV woosh?
Hahaha
One of the best shows ever
@Tl2aV it's a comedy show reference. Not a real historical figure.
Grim2 I thought he was the black vegetable
His plans were the most cunning.
Well I believe that it could be argued that the Spanish’s feelings toward Francis Drake as a pirate are justified considering that he had broke many of the rules that privateers were supposed to adhere to and was never punished by Elizabeth. Not to mention that privateers were not supposed to be utilized when countries were not openly at war.
Good old Proxy Wars.
To the stay with the current theme, "Mary, Queen of Scots" should be the next movie. It might even be worse than this one.
Tbh I think Mary, Queen of Scots IS worse
Which one? There's at least three he could dissect, with Katharine Hepburn, Vanessa Redgrave (with Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth), or the recent one.
ruthiehenshallfan99 probably the most recent one. It was so bad I stopped watching. 20-30 minutes is all I could take.
@@ruthiehenshallfan99 Dissecting those would be fun....Glenda Jackson played Elizabeth in 1971's Mary, Queen of Scots and also in 1971 the BBC miniseries Elizabeth R....six episodes! I'd like to hear his analysis as I had thought that Elizabeth R was closer to history. Interesting in that in MQOS, Elizabeth is sort of presented as the villain and Mary is presented sympathetically. .....in Elizabeth R, she is obviously the protagonist and Mary is clearly the villain. And Glenda Jackson was so awesome in both.
I had just watched this the other day and the entire time I was questioning story changes. The story between Rizzo and Darney made no sense and wasn't in any way based on facts.
List of movies I’d love to see you review:
Glory (1989)
Rough Riders MiniSeries (1997)
Gangs of New York (2002)
Gods and Generals (2003)
Lincoln (2003)
Love your videos and could barely believe that I’d been awake when you uploaded a new video!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
He seem to have misspelled 'The Pacific' somewhere
Fury (2014) is a damn good one to review.
I'd also like to see a review of The Messenger; Luc Besson movie about Joan of Arc. Not the Leelee Sobiesky one cuz that one does not have Dustin Hoffman satanic-like conscience cringing at the thought of a sword falling from the sky.
The Irishman.
1917
As much as Henry VIII wanted a son, Elizabeth was most like him. She could “play the game”, just like him, make everyone admire her, but she was also ruthless. Every step she took was politically motivated. Elizabeth did nothing that wasn’t planned or thought out. She was brilliant and knew exactly what she wanted.
I think that was a good deal thanks to her mother's intelligence, actually. Anne Boleyn was no slouch intellectually speaking.
@@blissinchains or from her grandfathers, grandmothers before that. They're all intelligent, shrewd, cunning, ruthless politicians anw
not many people admired King Henry VIII, he was a pretty shitty king.
You don't give her enough credit. Henry was a thug, he was an Al Capone. His wife Catherine ran the country for large portions of his reign and was beloved for a good reason. He on the other hand was all about ego.
@@markjustdiditc what? He was extremely popular. And while not successful in the warrior king of his fantasy he did navigate England safely through the reformation.
As a teacher, I would show scenes from this film as a way to give pupils a visual idea of what people looked like and how parts of life functioned. But I sure as hell wouldn't use it to teach history.
It is a good visual aid, but certainly not something you'd want people to take seriously.
Any teacher who would show this film to a class as a factual aid is doing a huge disservice to their class and I would suspect that it would be more a way to kill class time.
Maybe they should just watch it with the sound off
I think it would be interesting, to show the movie as part of an assignment to find whats accurate and whats fiction about the movies.
To be honest, even the visual stuff isn't entirely accurate- the are a hybrid of renaissance dress and medieval castles and buildings. The creators of these films actually addressed this and said they were looking to create a sort of "timelessness" or something to that effect.
It seems to me that what teachers should actually start doing is show episodes of History Buffs. I remember more from this show than I ever did from school.
@@charlesajones77 Never were truer words written. I hated every single history class all throughout elementary, junior and high school. Now I love history thanks to finding presenters like Nick.
The bit with El Chapo in mexico with the mariachi, burro, mexican flag and churros got me
20:57 I got slept.
My A level history teacher genuinely spent an hour long lesson going on a full rant about these films, and Mary Queen of Scots with Saoirse Ronan
Oh God, that MQS movie was an utter travesty, just infuriating.
@@lizc6393 The Monty Python version was definitely better.
@@Serai3 "Are YOU Mary Queen of Scots?" ....
@@jamesalexander5623 "I am!"
Good Man.
The fact that History Buffs managed to work in the classic meme of "Why You Always Lyin" into this video is in itself a masterstroke. Coalescing in as Clive Owen speaks...*Chef's Kiss*
The "Bold Personality" edit was a nice touch, too. :)
The Spanish: "The lot of you are pirates!"
Queen Lizzy the first: "Shit, might as well make it true."
Diego E.S. Its heroes are pirates, its sovereigns are predatory degenerates, its rulers are financiers and oligarchs, its legacy: the proliferation of a good language
@Caramel Johnson Privateers ARE Pirates. Also privateers are mercenaries. Sir Francis Drake and his Elizabethan contemporaries, despite common misconception,are Corsairs, as they worked directly for the British Establishment and had government funding. Privateers only were paid according to what plunder they stole from enemy ships and/or whatever stolen goods they could sell. Both could receive Letters of Marq but one is basically a condotierro and the other is the nautical equivalent of an Irregular platoon
@@hellshakeyano2327 cofcofJeanBartcofcof
In for a penny, in for a pound.
@@hellshakeyano2327 Yep. All one of them.
The El Chapo example was perfect. It made me smile.
28:15
I can't Believe Elizabeth I was so powerful that she had Emperor Palpatine on her Counsel.
He's not just in the Counsel. He IS the Counsel.
@@zegpath81 ROFL!!!
The senate and counsel
in one room, such power
better yet talking about EXECUTE someone from the majesty ORDER's in that scene
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
You should do the 1989 movie “Glory” about the first all-black volunteer company during the civil war
Samuel Teeple sounds cool
Actually volunteer regiment, and I wanna watch it as I am a civil war re-enactor and I just love the civil war in general
@The Yankee Craftsman The way things are going, you might get to see civil war part two.
I support that!
I kinda want him to do the movie Red Tails, because even though the movie is terrible, the story of the Tuskigee Airmen, the first all Black fighter squadron on the US airforce, is definitely worth discussing
"Elizabeth the Golden Age" is certainly one of the worst cinematic English history atrocities. It manages to present just as many blatant falsehoods as "Braveheart" while being far less entertaining.
Doesn't get close to Braveheart
it's a movie not an historical text---the performances were fantantic----catholic and jews hated it ---the catholics for obvious reasons and the jews because it shows nationalism
@@camerocar Spoken like a true non-historian. Any film based in a historical period is a historical text. At least Blackadder embraces its fantastical elements.
@@dreamcrusher112 oh really!!!hollywood has never deviated from historical veracity in depicting a particular episode in history???? i do not pretend to be an historian neither should you pretend to be a movie critic
@@camerocar the problem is that it is not only super duper historically inaccurate but boring asf as well cate Blanchett was the one that carried this turd of a movie
There are lies, damned lies and 'historical' epics.
"Charmingly he was involved in a massacre.."
Oskar Evans haha I laughed too
In case you didn’t know he was British
Bit of an understatment
Another reason against the absurd showing of Merry Queen of Scots being locked in a castle in Scotland in the movie is because she came to England after she escaped Scotland, losing to the rebellious Scottish lords which later on served as plaintiffs in the prosecution against her. The outcome of this trial served as the very reason why she was held hostage by Elizabeth.
14:07 The idea that Philip II caused and unprecedented deforestation in Spain is completely false and is based on a popular legend that says that he was the one who destroyed the supposed forests of Monegros (a semi-desert area in northeast Spain) to build the Armada. However, numerous geologists and botanists have shown that the scarce rains and the salinity of the soil in Monegros prevent the growth of trees, so there was never a forest there to begin with.
The most important element in peninsular deforestation was the extension of agriculture, which led to the indiscriminate cutting of trees to gain territory to the forests, while the wood for shipbuilding was imported from Scandinavia, therefore maintaining the English Channel open to Spanish commercial traffic was of vital importance for the construction of ships.
A good point, but did the majority of wood really come from Scandinavia? I've read that the Spanish and Portuguese cut down entire forests in the Americas, because tropical wood was much more suitable for shipbuilding. Is that a myth or did that just happen later in the colonial era?
@@GrafSchocola I don't know about Portugal, but in the spanish case the impact of the diseases bring with the spanish settlers in the XVI century was so huge that the death of millions of native inhabitats left 56 million hectares abandoned, leading to the growth of new forests and a reduction in levels of CO2, which in turn contributed to the cooling of the Earth by around 0.15 ºC in the late 16th century and early 17th century. Also take into account that at this time the spanish trade with the Americas was fundamentally based in exporting manufactured objects (glass, tools, weapons) and animals or plants for cultivation (horses, pigs, cows, wheat, sugar cane, etc.) while Spain imported mainly silver, gold and food related stuff (potatoes, tomatoes, etc).
Some places in Patagonia or the western coasts of South America (like Chiloe, for example) did live from wood exportation though logging had no significant impact since the technology for cutting trees and processing them was very rudimentary, the forests were gigantic all around the continent, and the population that lived from logging for boat production was very small. Either way and generally speaking, wood was not a priority for exportation in the XVI century since the construction of ships was done in Europe, wood wasted space in the ships (which would be better used for storaging something more valuable) and it could be obtained in Escandinavia via Flanders.
This changed latter in the XVIII century, when the Spanish Empire lost all his territories in Europe out of the iberian peninsula and then the American colonies became a new supply of wood.
@@XcUtiOn96 Well, I guess you'll never learn out. Thx for the in depth reply!
That ridiculous idea start with the lack of knowledge about Iberian forests in the past and nowadays. There are big forest regions in Spain, covering bigger areas than any in Great Britain in the last 4000 years. However you are wrong about shipbuilding: The wood imported for shipbuilding always was a minority, while the ship direct purchase was a little more common in some periods. The core of spanish oceanic ships in second half of XVI century, those of american trade and the warships were officially built (in a forced monopoly) in the Basque shipyards with local woods. In the last decade of XVI century and first ones of the XVII, a significant amount of ships, to the maximum of around a third in some years, were directly purchased to other countries, not because the lack of woods but because the practicality and speed supplying a huge amoung of big vessels in the peak of spanish-american trade (there were more "voyages" and ships involved in spanish-american trade only in 50 years, 1580-1630, than dutch VOC had in 200 years trading with Asia...) while 2 remaining thirds continued to be built in basque country. However andalusian traders of atlantic South coast, were in a continous trade battle with basques, so after decades including some "illegal" ships in spanish fleets or including forced late-works in southern shipyards (because the american trade, emigration or defence insitituions were in Seville) , andalusians closely linked with local criollo traders, started to promote shipbuilding in Cuba and other american shipyards, so in the rest of XVII century and a great part of XVIII century, the biggest part in spanish proper shipbuilding pass to the Americas.
@Asier Linazasoro Indeed, basque shipyards + few others in Cantabria formed an official monopoly in oceanic shipbuilding (american trade + warships) since first decades of XVI century. The official reason was the abundance of northern oak timber and the expertise of basque shipbuilders, however was probably partially an excuse (there was southern atlantic shipbuilding tradition and other timber possibilities as the cork oak, that e.g. portuguese use the most) to officially include basques in american trade as a part of the cargo was reserved to shipbuilders. That was the crown first desire, in reality neither basque iron + shipbuilding nor andalusian general trade monopolies were truly effective and closed and other actors slowly intruced themselves in that huge economic context. In regard shipbuilding, in central decades of XVI century most ships were basque built, in last decades of that century and first decades of XVII c. in the peak of spanish-american trade, 1580-1630 approx., the crown started to buy directly some ships to other countries, because the demand of big ships in those years was huge, for example the Fleet and Galleons system trading in big convoys with America used more ships in those 40-50 years that the famous Dutch East India Company in 200 years! And besides american trade fleet we still must count the 8-9 simultaneous big war navies also included in basque monopoly. Since 1620s the American shipyards started to produce a great part of those vessels and finally in the XVIII century other iberian shipyards were added also.
Never understood why make a historical movie if you won't follow history
It's because History is too "grey" which leaves little room for pandering and franchising (aka Hollywood).
One could say the same for "historical" classes materials, but we all know how that saying goes eh. esp Public Ed
At the end of day, it is just a movie.
@@zrolyn6367 Can i make a movie about how the holocaust didn't happen and say "it's just a movie?", i'm not saying what that movie is doing would be on that level, but it sets a dangerous precedent to say "It's just a movie". Movies inform the ignorant public about these historical figures, so if they see it in a movie that claims to be historical they will believe it.
Then you’d realise Germany should have won ww2 😮
All of the plots against Elizabeth I, summarized:
Foreign enemy wants to assassinate queen and put Mary of Scots on throne. End
Spending the movie's entire time to generate a kingdom sized casus beili
some legends say Spaniards are still trying
@@sephelutis *belli ;) yes I'm annoying
here's the actual history... now let me sh*t all over this movie.
classic history buffs love it
The movies clearly deserve it.
That's insane. No history teacher has ever had me watching a movie to learn history...
...they instead made up history themselves.
Underrated comment
Sadly this is true....
I call bullshit
@@blasvega8826 i do also..... my teachers read from the history books
which were usually 20 to 30 years old....
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due to republicans slashing the schools budget....
using "they teach fake news and fake history" as an excuse... to cut the budget...
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like.... why would you EVER cut a schools budget.... or a teachers pay?
that just seems insane to me
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PS.... im not a democrat..... (or "lib-tard")
and i DAMN sure am not a "trump-tard)
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its almost like i vote for who is going to help out PEOPLE LIKE ME over a red or blue jersey....
this isnt football / soccer..... where "your" team can do no wrong (it was the refs bad call.... we dont suck.... fake news!!!!)
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its peoples lives we are voting on....
@@kainhall I don't think teachers make history or teach history based on how much funds they get. I think it's based on their personal beliefs.
For example, right now you have parents being mad that schools are teaching critical race theory, antiracism or white privilege.
Other places you have teachers who want to teach white kids that they are at fault for being white and should give up things they work for to blacks in an attempt to equalize it.
So I think it depends on the teacher and not necessarily funding as to which teacher just plays a movie and which ones reads from the book.
P.s. not against school fundings. But there is a need for reform in how schools are funded.
I know this is gonna get lost but hopefully you review the movie “Glory” about the 54th Massachusetts
Between myself and other comments, Glory has been requested at least 30 times.
Probably the worst offence in that one is the extraordinary smear against Colonel James Montgomery
Yes!!! Great movie!
History Buffs: HBO's Chernobyl when
Harry. Yes please
@@Nerdycopia for the memes.
@@Nerdycopia oh right sorry sorry, History Buffs: HBO's Chernobyl when?
It'll be three minutes long, and mostly complaining about how they rolled all the scientists into one supporting character. o.o
@@TwoWholeWorms I don't think he'd complain about that all too much. He didn't mind it when the Ghost and the Darkness did the same thing.
28:17 Emperor Palpatine? Is that him? Enacting a conspiratorial plot for a Sith takeover of the Kingdom of England?
Of course he is
I mean, I'm down for lightsabers in a medieval setting lmao
That's not the Counsel, It The Senate
I am the Councel
As long as the royals have their heads chopped off I'm in 😂
Moral of the story: If you want to impact England's history and mess with the queen, change your name to Francis.
Erich Kulp I wonder what the pope is up to?!
Here I am drunk and about to eat a pizza, literally grabs slice #1 to see this notification. 😭😭 This is the best day
Dude I'm drunk too sadly no pizza though
You're basically the equivalent of "I just had sex and am bout to eat some NACHOS! THIS IS THE GREATEST MOMENT OF MY LIFE!"
Seriously. Drunk, thinking of sleep. This comes out. AGH.
I dont get it. Being drunk is boring, why not getting high?
@@rescamesta preferences
I was shown this movie not 2 hours ago in history class. I was skeptical of how many events were happening in what looked to be months. Good thing I did!
I laughed when i saw Elizabeth riding in a suit of armour, she would never had ridden astride but would have been side saddle,
Oh, come on. What about during her campaigns against the orcs?
She also never had a suit of armour
She did wear a silver cuirass, over a white dress, when she was reviewing the troops at Tilbury.
Movies you should review imo. Some are good others are inaccurate or funny:
Downfall (2004)
The Darkest Hour (2016)
Emperor (2012)
Lincoln (2012)
Glory (1989)
Creation (2009)
All the Way (2016)
Invictus (2009)
J Edgar (2011)
Hyde Park on Hudson (2012)
The Alamo (2004)
Pearl Harbor... *the Michael bay one*
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adbenture
We've been telling him to do Downfall forever, lol.
Nick talked about Pearl Harbor (2001) in the Tora! Tora,!Tora! video
I think he's also mentioned he'd never do pearl harbor because its been done to death on so many other channels
i'd love to see nick's take on glory & lincoln
And Jurassic Park.
thanks for reviewing this. after watching "Elizabeth" in the theater I was unwilling to torment myself any further by watching the sequel. I'll just re-watch Glenda Jackson's brilliant portrayal in the BBC series yet again.
"Would you be interested in a trade agreement with England?"
FINALLLYYYYYY ANOTHER ONEE
Thanks for confirming these movies are as far from history as I believed! And thanks for always bringing such quality materials!
Two things. One: the true value of Drake's journey around America was mapping out the New World, since Spain was the only one in possession of maps of South America and the whole Pacific Coast, and they were kept as a top state secret. Two: San Juan de Ulúa is the name of the fortress at the entrace of Veracruz harbor, it was the biggest stronghold in New Spain, protecting it's oldest city and busiest harbor.
I would love to see you tackle The Tudors one day, Nick. Of course that would be a series of videos because there's a lot of real history to untangle from the common myths of Henry VIII's reign, but still.
Of all the inaccuracies in The Tudors, the one that still annoys me that they made the 'artistic decision' not to have Henry VIII get fat and old, because they picked a hunky leading man. He was a literal monster, and by the end he was obese, syphilitic, impotent and had weeping open sores... But they seemed to not actually plan for that when they went into it as 'Tudor Times But Sexy featuring Henry 'look-at-his-calves-in-them-tights' VIII'
That speech in full armor at the end looks like a cheap knockoff of Joan of Arc. Really cheap.
Thibaud Duhamel, she even wears the same gothic armour, even though Joan of Arc lived far earlier. Elisabeth would have probably worn a black and silver breastplate. Btw. Nick has even got such a breastplate in the background.
Goddamn, Mary Stuart's executions from the film and real life are like Expectations vs. Reality lol
They should have just kept it as historically accurate.
@@silentecho92able Hold up, I thought it was 3 times.
Finally signed up for Curiosity Stream today with your promo code after sifting through the slimming pickings of Netflix and Disney+ for months. It was like finding buried treasure. I already have almost 100 docs in my watchlist to keep me occupied between History Buffs uploads. 10/10 would recommend.
Film's that I'm waiting on:
Chernobyl
Last of the Mohicans
Schindlers List
Spartacus
The Irishman
Full Metal Jacket
Admiral
Michael Collins
Gandhi
Valkyrie
Downfall
Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom
The Iron Lady
The Hunt for Red October
Those are just a few to say the least, but yeah, something as impactful and influencial to history and cinema such as "Elizabeth the Golden Age" is far more important. Do your thing.
What about "And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself"
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I've never seen that one.
Honestly, the number of plots against Elizabeth telling her life would work best as a TV series.
It has been. "Elizabeth R" starring Glenda Jackson. The best portrayal of Elizabeth by far, though not many remember it. AND very accurate.
@@Serai3ngl, I've been reading a book about the various plots with a focus on the lives of the agents who foiled them, and I'd really love to see *that* turned into a TV show as well. Or even just any kind of fiction about it; I feel like stories about this era tend to be entirely biopic-style stuff about Elizabeth... or, for some reason, a bunch of stories that are loosely inspired by the espionage angle, but using it as the backdrop for an original character noir protagonist solving crimes, more than anything. Like, I went looking up historical fiction about the espionage scene and it was just a whole bunch of those and not much else.
16:54 That portrait of Ivan the Terrible is based on a 19th century painting by Victor Vasnetsov, and it looks nothing like an actual 16th century Russian portrait.
Lol
Elizabeth would be better as a Netflix or HBO miniseries.
There was an HBO miniseries already with Helen Mirren as Elizabeth I.
Oh god please not Netflix .. they would completely butcher it like they do with anything
@@Varekai0723
It's on Amazon now.
sas534 the crown? Stranger things? The Two Popes? The Witcher? Our Planet? House of Cards? Star Trek discovery? Black mirror?
HBO, nothing from HBO sucked, they are pretty accurate, the videography is on point. They would make it an entertaining historical easy to watch miniseries.
I watched this in school last semester. After we watched it, we did an assignment on researching what in the movie was real and fake.
In France we had a king crowned at his birth, because his father died while the queen was pregnant XD
Well, as childs often did in this time, he died a few months after his birth ^^
Which one? I know that he didn't mention that Henry VI was King of England (and thought himself King of France) as a small child.
@@maestroclassico5801 John the Posthumous
@@gubruikertje Because he died five days after being born
You should do a list of recommended history books. I would love to read your recs.
I remember when getting my master's in history one of my professors said while Virgin Queen was a powerful movie he was frightened that HS teachers would use it to teach history. He had us read a short 6 page synopsis on inaccuracies+ prior to class. Late middle ages and renaissance monarchs were not comic book super heroes. They pretty much all did what we would want a modern politician to be impeached for today.
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Not strictly a film but could you consider Robert Carlye's :
Hitler: The rise of evil. Would love this to get the History Buff's treatment. Anyway peace out dude, great content as usual.
Because someone pointed it out...Hear, hear!!!
I've seen that series a few times and while very interesting and yes, sorta good for him to cover, I think now *isn't* the time to draw attention to Nazi history that portrays it and Hitler in anything even approaching a semi-sympathetic light (which it VERY much does).
@@Rangercaptain1138 Judging from Juliusz profile and playlists shining light on something portraying hitler semi sympathetic is exactly what he wants
@@Rangercaptain1138 I wouldn't say it approachis him in a sem-sympathetic light. It shines a line on the person of Hitler, rather than the symbol he has become.
It reminds me of an essay I had to write in school, after watching "der Untergang" in history class. Topic: "Do you feel Hitler is portrayed as being too human".
My reply was: "No, because he WAS a human being. To deny Hitler was a human, is to deny humanity is capable of such atrocities, and actually downplays the events that happened". Well, it was a bit longer than that, but you get the basic idea. Single essay/task/test/exam I ever failed in history...
As for the series itself. It kind of does a good job portraying him. Because while he acts 'normal' for most of the film, you get to see glimpses of him acting in such a way that leaves all bystanders in shock. Such as when he starts beating that dog in the trenches because it did not perform the trick he wanted it to perform.
In my opinion (and it is just an opinion) it shows a person with serious issues, who pretends to be 'normal', lets his mask slip from time to time, becomes more and more arrogant as time progresses and finds himself elevated to the position where he no longer needs to keep himself in check, and lets loose all evil that lurks within.
It's more of a warning: be careful who you elect to power, and make very, very sure it is a stable person. A lesson not always headed, I'm afraid...
@@Rangercaptain1138 when would ever be a time then?
Woke up an hour ago. Not looking forward to another boring day in isolation and... what's this? A new History Buffs Video? Awesome! The day is definitely looking up!
Elizabeth I’s Secret Agents is a great documentary on the true Spymasters of the Elizabeth’s era, William and Robert Cecil.
I'm still waiting for a Cleopatra review. Especially since it's featured in the opening.
And because it’s one of the best fucking movies ever lol
Hey in the opening it shows her with her *cough* lady parts
I'm just wondering if he'll review "Titanic."
@@godzilla964 i doubt it mate
@@dankcaesar4760 and the Longest... I remember watching it once and realized half a day had already passed.
28:20 Well great now I can't stop thinking that Palpatine was only part of the queen's council to gain her trust to eventually take over the Republic...I mean kingdom.
Surely the biggest historical inaccuracy is someone saying how attractive the Hapsburg duke is.
The camera circled her at the end because the costume was so beautiful they wanted to show-it-off to the fullest!! Stunning costume work!
When you let the modist direct the scene.
I was an extra in this! That's me at 24:34 holding the Ivan portrait 🤘
Patrick Guilfoyle really? That so cool! Did you do anymore historical movies
@@Katie-oq7mh just one; Atonement. I'm in the blurred background of the cafe when they meet. Can't really see me at in that one 🤦🏼♂️😆
There's a Russian movie called "Come and See" not many people can finish watching the movie.
The scariest history movie ever made.
I really hope he can review it but is quite tough.
@@differentboy9697 It took it's toll on me, I can honestly say.
Although Come And See is nothing like Saving Private Ryan, it gave me a similar feeling by the end. Both movies will make you feel drained, emotionally taxed, depressed, repulsed, but at the same time awestruck and filled with a newfound respect for the events on which they're based.
Truly. It took me 3 tries to make it all the way to the end. Gritty realism, nothing glamorized.
There's a Russian movie called War and Peace and not many can finish it because it's 7 hours long and bad subtitles.
28:37 "...order of execution."
...would that be Order 66, Emperor Palpatine?
Haha, I love how you noticed that too. Like no WONDER Elizabeth didn't want the council to get the letter when Palpatine was in it.
Best three words in the entire Star Wars franchise were "Execute Order 66". Prove me wrong.
DEW IT!
Creamy Sheev in "The Catholics Strike Back"
Meh. I prefer Queenie saying "Where's my pressie??" "I'll cut off your head if you don't make me laugh!" "I'm bored. Let's behead someone." "Ahoy sir walter! Bucko to see you! Oh matey!!" And of course...the greatest sailor, solider, and explorer in all of empire! LORD FLASHEART!!!
AH HA HA HA HA HA!
oh flashheart that bastard he stole blackadders girl
HBs should do one on Flashman
@@simongarrettmusic you do mean the George McDonald Frazier character don’t you? Or did you mean lord flash heart as portrayed by the legend rik mayel
@@englishgentleman7471 Yes, I do mean the Flashman of the GMF books, and Rik's character was definitely inspired from those.
I'd love it if you took a long look at The Lion in Winter (Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn). It's a classic story with fantastic actors. I'd love to get your perspective on the accuracy and watchability of the film.
You gets a big W for throwing in that "why you lying" bit 😂🤣
I know right!!
Tj Taz And he gets a big L for censoring the swear words...
@@forcedtohaveahandle Blame UA-cam, not him.
I'd love for you to cover the show Turn: Washington's Spies if you haven't already.
yes! ive been trying to see this done for years
Could u cover it, im curious to see if any information was used from the Book : George Washington's Secret Six, unless the book inspired the show.
zzzzzzzz
How is that show?
Awesome show, if a bit inaccurate
I have to say, Nick, you have a brilliant way with narrative history, with lots of smart analysis and some nice jokes. History Buffs is a fantastic channel.
Spain: plot to assassin the queen of England.
England reaction: sponsor privateering.
The Caribbean: 🎶 yo ho a pirates life for me🎶
Is there any proof to the rumor that she personally requested the services of Jack Sparrow but was forced to withdraw the request after Amber Heard gave her a black eye?
@@jasondecharleroy4161 i thought it was because she shat on the queen's bed?
*privateer's life for me
DRINK UP ME HEARTIES YO HO!!!
As a man from Sweden I feel some how offended by this movie handling of Erik XIV, WTF!! He was as you said dead, plus he was already King and married to Karin(eng. Catherine) Månsdotter. As always Nick great work :D
He did want to marry her at one point though, even sent a full size portrait of himself to her. The main idea was to unite two of the protestant kingdoms in Europe against an increasingly militant catholic league.
@@lavrentivs9891 that was more then I knew. Thank you :)
To me The Golden Age is a guilty pleasure. I find it rather unusual that two movies in a "franchise" shot by same director have such a different tone, but while (to me) the first Elizabeth is aggressively unpleasant, The Golden Age has a very ambient, almost dreamlike atmosphere.
Wdym agressively unpleasant.
The F--kin' Lying Meme was priceless. 😂😂😂
Well, why's he always lying?
I can never ever take this movie seriously again..
21:00 Work of art, you managed to slip that one in so classy. Not too little, yet not too much overboard.
I’m lucky, I was homeschooled and my mom was a big British drama fan so it was Elizabeth R for me.
"Madre de Deus" was actually a portuguese ship, not spanish. Even though that the portuguese king at the time was the Phillip II of Spain, the kingdom and empire's administration was kept separate from the rest of his possessions.
All the kingdoms in the spanish empire were administered differently from each other, Portugal was no different from Castille, Aragon or Naples for example
@@acusticamenteconvusional9936 I know. Still, the Portuguese, in the first decades of the Iberian union, had a few more liberties than the other territories. In fact, the correct concept is Iberian Union, which suggests a dynastic union and not a complete annexation. The administration had to be completely portuguese, as an example of the said liberties.
I feel obligated to point out that Phillip here sounds like some hard drug adict
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Would you ever consider The Longest Day? The amount of actors in it that served in WW2. Richard Todd for 1. Was actually in the battle he played the main character. However with all the detail. It may be a 2 or even 3 parter. It's a epic. Lol
You should do, Mary Queen of Scots (2018 film) next and completed the "trilogy!"
I'd love to see you cover Steven Spielberg's Lincoln (2012). It's one of my favorite historical films.
History buffs! Do "The King" from Netflix a year or so ago- detailing the end of Henry the warrior king!
26:10 Was I the only one expecting him to chime in "These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise" with that music? Lol
I'm wondering if you're going to cover Mary, Queen of Scots.
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Have mercy!
I had to try twice before I got through it, myself.
I wonder if Nick would make a reference to the magically non-aging Mary & her ladies?
@@OcarinaSapphr- what about the asian lady?
Your jabs and humor are half the reason I love your videos so much. If I’m chortling in public over a videos it’s most likely yours
"Its important to put these movies in their place." *shows a woman getting slapped in the face* o that's some spicey editing, history huffs.
"If someone picks up a history book to check, I have done my job."
Me: *Picks up An Historical and Geographical Description of Formosa, an Island subject to the Emperor of Japan and the Histories of the Kings of Britain.
Thanks I hate this.
Thats a reference so obscure I had to read it twice to remember what that was.
NERD
Those are not history books though. the formosa one was a prediction but anyway...