Are You Programming Your Metal Drums Correctly? with Scott Elliott
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2021
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I’m Scott from Chernobyl Studios, and I’m just like you: a home studio musician and mixing engineer. From the beginning of my journey, all I ever wanted was to have a big, massive, metal guitar tone for my music.
In 2013, I started to study mixing and tone crafting more seriously so I could bring this desire to life. What I didn’t know was that I was venturing into a world of conflicting information and secrecy. Maybe it sounds a bit dramatic, but how many times have you seen a video on UA-cam that claimed you could “sound like the pros in minutes,” just to find out they have thousands of dollars in gear and plugins and really didn’t explain anything anyway? These videos never helped me get a better idea of how to create my guitar tones.
I wasted money on plugins I didn’t need, followed advice that wasn’t helpful, and made every mistake you can think of multiple times over. 6 years of frustration later and I now know what it actually takes to great amazing guitar tones.
You don’t need thousands of dollars in amps, heads, guitars, cables, pedals, or anything like that-you can even use completely free plugins. All you need is a simple method that you can follow step-by-step and practice. The Guitar Tone Mastery course is that method.
I also just released a BRAND NEW course, Metal Drum Programming Mastery, where I will teach you how to create the ‘feel’ of an actual drummer.
In this course, I’m going to not only teach you how to master the technical side of drum programming, but show you a 5-step system which will speed up your workflow immensely.
More importantly, you’ll discover how to make drum programming a CREATIVE and MUSICAL process, which you can enjoy just as much as writing guitar riffs.
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Comment your questions for Scott below, and let me know what you thought of the video!
I just needed this video, thank you for sharing it.
The best advice that's been given to me regarding drum programming is "transcribe your favorite drummers' grooves".
You’re very welcome Serge!
How to achieve this level of beard greatness!
@@CrushingAxes Patience and beard oil! haha
Huge Congrats Scott on releasing your new course. All of your courses are super great and super knowledgeable ! Can’t wait to take this one! And Huge Thanks to Warren for promoting such a great talents! You Guys Rock! 😀👍🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for the continued support Alexey, I'm happy to help !
Thanks ever so much Alexey!!
@@ChernobylAudio666 Marvellous
Nice to see you on the channel! And nice to see a big badass beard too
The beard gives me the secret power! :D
Haha badass beard!
Famous for your beard Scott!!
Superb! This has helped me immensely thank you so much, :)
for 32nd note double kick i found 90-110 range sounds at the very least, realistic. and when it comes to single strokes (that means traditional blasts) no more than 90 on cymbals while 80 on snare is the best way to go (that also depends on whether the library splits between rimshots and center hits, too). also for dominant hand it's always 8-16 velocities higher than the other hand. at least that's how i approach metal drum programming anyway!
Very much depends on the tempo! If it's very mid-paced like at 120bpm, it's quite realistic to play loudly since it's so slow. But the faster it goes, the lower the velocities have to come down, so you make good points!
@@ChernobylAudio666 thanks for sharing!
This is gold. Thanks
Happy to help!
Thanks Andy!
@@ChernobylAudio666 Marvellous
Thanks, Scott! This would've helped me loads years ago when I was trying to figure this stuff out but I still learned some cool tricks from you!
Happy to help man !!
Thanks ever so much Keith!
@@ChernobylAudio666 you Rock!
Scott you're a badass and a fantastic teacher! Been a huge fan since taking Guitar Tone Mastery, been waiting for this new course!
Yes, Scott Rocks! Awesome, thank you!
Thank you William for the kind words! It's a pleasure to help!
Fantastic!!
Wow, this was very productive! Thanks a lot!
Thanks ever so much
I for one would like to see more on programming drums on this channel
Absolutely wonderful.
Thanks ever so much!!
🤯 wow man ... Thanx a lot
I'm no a metal guy but I watched the whole thing. Very Nice. If I tried to play that on drums there would be a lot of sticks hitting mics and rims. So, need some samples of the mic getting hit by a stick to make it sound like it came out of my shop.
SSD5.5 does have some rimclicks for snare and each of the toms hahah
@@ChernobylAudio666 Perfect! So I just put them in random spots pushing the beat way too much and - there's my 'feel'.
Thanks for the great comment Todd!
@@ChernobylAudio666 marvellous!
Scott is a really cool guy ! Always helpful videos ! Also a very nice beard!
Happy to help! Thanks for watching :)
Agreed! We are huge fans of Scott's here!
@@ChernobylAudio666 no comment on the beard! Haha
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@@CrushingAxes haha
I wish my neural transmissions worked like I want them to for drumming. I love listening to people in control of theirs. Maybe I could use something like this to practice narrowing my spark plug gaps in less hours than usual on any day. Meanwhile I need to check on a few drummers in my instagram feed I have missed for almost a year now. It's an ongoing puzzle of how to grab time metaphorically and physically. 🙂
Haha thanks ever so much for sharing Audrey!!
Great video and that was just a whiff of what he's stepping in 👍
Haha indeed
Thanks man :D
@@ChernobylAudio666 YES!! LOL
noice - i'm subbed to chernobyl as well as pro like a pro. imagine... MY surprise! it's like i just made plans to get stoned during break and not make it back for lab after lecture lol that's to say ima pull an all-nighter. EDIT: weeell the surprise is my own to imagine..! it's different content. looks like stoner friends are gonna go without me this time.
That's amazing Erock!
My kingdom for a metal-friendly pattern-based drum sequencer VST!
This is a very isnpiring and informative creartive.
What is the shortcut to split notes and where do i download the midi note selector? great video im a big scott fan
OH man that was great! You and Adam keep showing me some cool shit with Reaper.
Frankly I am not that fond of the piano roll and the selection tool, its me and my age and grabbing on to it and I have a crappy scroll wheel on my mouse
Fantastic William! Thanks ever so much for sharing
I hear you, even if I didn't play Quake, I would be buying gaming mice anyway for the extra control and precision for programming haha
@@ChernobylAudio666 yeah niiiice i used to left hand the g-13, a half-keyboard sized keypad with an analog thumbstick. at the time in my right hand was the g-600, a mouse with an entire keypad's complement of buttons on the side. each on it's own had immediately discernible impacts on many facets of various stages of the productive processes of creative fields thru their multiple phases, most notable while engaged in processes benefiting from rapid iteration.
when used together? sofa king BEASTMODE. absolutely worth the time and effort required to customize each on case-by-case bases.
@@ChernobylAudio666 Cat fur, coffee and other beverages are not good around my half baked musical cockpit and mice, but heck Ive got a nice window view
I go through mice faster than my animals can catch them :)
I'm really interested in this course. Drums and percussion are definitely the area where my musical knowledge is weakest. I'm not looking to programme metal drums per se, but was interested to know whether this course would help with other styles of music?
Can't find the full course Metal Drum Programming Mastery?
Hey, man. Whatever happened to the mixing streams. Really missing those.
Was exceptionally busy putting MDPM together, took a metric ton of work... but now I'll finally be able to do something else. We did get the vocals for the track, though, so we can finish that ;)
@@ChernobylAudio666 Thats nice
Yes, Scott! More mixing streams! Haha
@@Producelikeapro I need to clone myself ! :D
26:27 vocals were short but sweet!
where is it available?
not just a black metal riff, but the tone of the guitar sound too. The texture made me think in grainy black and white footage.
I AM NEW TO THIS HOW DO I GET THE MIDI NOTE SELECTOR TO OPEN? & WHAT DO I NEED TO SET UP IN THE EVENT PROPERTYS TO MAKE THIS WORK?
So, why is the course no longer available?
Hey Scott how you been
which DAW is this?
Hi Dave, Scott uses Reaper!
Because: REAPER...you're welcome
Thanks for sharing!
This wasn't fast enough for me, so I watched the whole thing at 2x speed and now I need a nap.
Haha I feel you! I'm creating the salespages for these courses, so I've watched a lot of them at 1.5x speed :D Metal courses are brutal!!!
Haha too funny Travis!
@@samuelellringmann3424 Haha watch them at x3!! Haha
@@samuelellringmann3424 It always makes me think, "Am I watching a video about drum programming or am I just overhearing every conversation that ever happened at a rave? We may never know."
What happened to the course?
Just curious, for the people bagging on the fact the drums are programmed, how do you feel about using an e-kit and playing through a sampler? Still blasphemy? Or better?
How do I get my midi editor to behave like this?
26:27
Hey comments. Anybody wanna connect and make a metal song? I can do vocals/screams like Corey Taylor obviously not as good. I’m an edm/hip hop/trap/dubstep producer mostly but I wanna make a metal song so gawd Dan bad but I can’t play any instruments to make a good instrumental
What would be more metal than programming?
Sounds like a song that needs vocals. :)
We'll have to fix that...
Haha indeed!
@@ChernobylAudio666 indeed!
Interesting,,Just learned that metal drums programming is probably the easiest there is because the patterns are so basic. Cool ..
If you're programming Drums you're not doing Metal correctly :p
Just kidding :D, sounds great
I do this on my solo stuff because I don't have access to any drummers with time and inclination to play on my stuff, lol, BUT I would trade programmed drums for a real human player any day of the week. Its just... programmed. And all the humanisation and velocity edits cannot change that. Its soulless, gridded and lifeless and more to the point passionless.
fuck programming! grooves are all you need to put together saves time and headaches!
I'm sorry to say. I'm a drummer, and you you get rid of me you just lost the best part of the band. I cant even listen to this crap...
I'm also a drummer, and many guitarists need to understand how we play drums so that when they come up with musical ideas and then transition to find a drummer to play the parts, they are realistic and complete, which can give us drummers a much better idea of what they're looking for.
@@ChernobylAudio666 i just do generic beats and fills and let my drummer write his own parts based on the feel i prototyped. that seems to communicate the ideas clearly enough.
@@freezingcathedral Totally cool !
Nobody is getting rid of the Drummer Billy, this is for people who done;t have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room, maybe even still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer.
Why are we programming these drums? Can’t you find a drummer so it has some life? This isn’t music.
There are people like me who can't find a drummer. :( Also, this absolutely is music.
@@Czyszy correct!!
Nobody is getting rid of the Drummer JT, this is for people who don't have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room or a live room with loads of mics, maybe they still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer.
Do you really like to listen to fake drums?
If you can do that all why do you need any band at all. Just create the "music" you want, whether this sounds like the real thing is debatable. I am starting to wonder if audiophiles know they are listening to a computer as opposed to real music. What I can say it has absolutely no character at all. It is just a bunch of noise with no real dynamics at all. If you think about it I spent over $200K on a reproduction system for the enjoyment of music. Maybe I should have bought a mixing desk and a PC and a set of headphones and make "music"and sound like I think it should. Do I make sense? I am of the opinion just kill Phil Collins and make any drum solo you want. Poison every guitarist or better still kill all musicians, they are not needed at all any more. I am sorry, but my interest in hi-fidelity is fading at a rapid rate because I don't know or recognize what I am listening to any more.
Thank you, and, well said sir
Hello Nico, firstly this is Modern Metal Music, nothing 'audiophile' about it. This video is for people who don't have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room or a live room with loads of mics, maybe they still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer. The kind of music you want is heavily represented in other videos on Warren's channel, what I love about his channel is he's not a snob, he brings people together. Maybe check out some of he videos involving Strings, Brass sections and tons of other videos Warren does, rather than find something you hate to comment on? Wouldn't that make more sense?
@@klauth_Yksyn you identify with audiophiles? Don't understand why someone would want to programme their drums who doesn't have the access and money to pay someone like yourself to track them? There are MANY genres other than Modern Metal, (you should know that if you're a professional drummer) that use live drums.
This is exactly why today's metal sucks. Go and listen to, "Battery" !!! And emperiance REAL metal that's played by REAL humans.
You mean the Master of Puppets album by Metallica? The one where Rasmussen had everyone detune slightly and play to a slowed tape, and then he sped everything back up again? It doesn't matter how it's done, only the final result matters. If it sounds good, it's music my friend. :)
@@ChernobylAudio666 Yeah Rasmussen did do that. I think todays possibilities are great. We're able to create complete songs, even if you don't have a drummer. Furthermore, I'm just assuming that this is just a small part of the complete picture and that you would bring in some dynamics tricks in order to make it sound more organic. Anyway, for people who are starting out, I think it's a great lesson. I do prefer real drums but, as said, that's not a possibility for many people. Keep up the good work Scott!
@@jorgosagb The original video was over an hour, and yes, some stuff had to hit the cutting-room floor, unfortunately :(
@@ChernobylAudio666 says a guy that was how old, when that song was cut? Too many pro tools jocky's...posing as pseudo "Engineers"...driving metal into a fake realm.
Back in the day, I was working in a recording studio on a big label record. One day the money guy came in to see how the sessions were going. Big LA exec. We were sitting on the couch in the lounge and the video for a new Metallica song from the black album came on MTV. He asked me what I thought about it. I loved the "real" Metallica and hated that album and their short haircuts and I told him I thought it sucked and they sold out. What he said was, "well I like it, and some other people seem to like it too". Whoever that guy was, he taught me something about my opinions that day. Funny thing is, I like that album now. (Baterry is way better tho, imho ;)