The fact that Honda and Triumph are kind to UA-camrs makes me inclined to support those brands. Letting their products get some real reviews from locations all over the world instead of simply paid vacations with marketing videos really helps us understand them and reinforces confidence in their products. And what better testament than reviewers buying the demo units right from them? 😎
I tend to agree. UA-cam moto vloggers are a huge influencing factor for new bike research and buying decisions. They're nuts not to support this. It's really inexpensive considering the payback. Their loss...
@@stephenhendry447 That would require lots of research, shopping around and actually buying used bikes so they can be fully reviewed then selling them again. It sounds like it would be appealing to many people but not what this channel is about, Andy spends quite a lot of time already on the videos he produces and often has a few videos in 'the can' waiting to be released I'm not sure he would find much time for those kind of videos.
Bought the CB650R as my first big bike about 6 months ago. Had the Trident been out at the time it definitely would've been a contender at a lower price and with a couple extra gadgets. But I fell in love with the inline 4 engine on the honda and continue to do so every time I wind it up - it's dangerously addicting! For a stock exhaust it looks and sounds amazing but I agree with you especially on the seat. Can't wait to get off it after about 1 hour of riding. You really can't go wrong with any of these bikes though if you ask me!
First thing I'll do after I get the cb650r at the dealership I'll rip off the muffler and do a exhaust muffler delete and toss that garbage can in the lot and ride off.
@@LandonClimbs On paper the cb650r looks like a "Less feature bike" but when you ride it you just want more and more and more and more man. Hell i even read a guy who said "Street triple and cb650r arent that different even though CB 650 has 25 less hp" you need to ride it. Test it.
I had to watch this twice (including adverts and outtakes....every little helps) to absorb all that info, and i am surprised you managed to compact so much into 17/18 minutes. Having said all that, you really do make it look easy and i'm sure it's not. I am liking the Trident more and more!
Hi Andy, Ponty Pete here, that was a good comparison of the three bikes! the two new ones dont look exiting bit ordinary but its a great way for you to show joe Bloggs what he might be Buying, many thanks, have a nice day!
Happy to see the Street Triple make an appearance! I have a ‘17 675R that I love, and purchased after watching many of your videos. Grateful for all your content, TMF, keep’em coming!
This was the review I was waiting for! I love all three. I don’t think you could go wrong with any of them, I think it may come down to personal preference on looks. For me it’s the Honda, especially in red or black depending on the model year. Thanks for another great video.
I bought the Honda cuz I’m die hard Honda fan, I believe they make the best internal combustion motor ever! If it’s about reliability and maintenance I think it’s a winner in the long haul.
Great video, I love my 2012 street triple aswell. I have just finished fitting the OEM triumph LED indicators on mine, what a difference that makes too the looks! She seems 10 years younger and you could definitely do a video on that mod as it involves the tank and the airbox all coming off which is loads of fun as you can imagine, well worth it though
The trident seems lovely. But ide still pick the cb650r any day. Beautiful bike, love the I4 soundtrack and the high reving screaming power. Also surprisingly comfortable for my 6’5 frame. I did however get a bagster comfort seat. The stock seat was not good for long rides
@Too Legit To Quit honestly it didn’t get uncomfortable for me unless it’s an all day ride. For 4-5 hours rides it’s very comfortable. But if You do more all day trips ide upgrade to a bagster seat like I did. Which btw the bagster seat for this bike looks badass!
That Trident in the Baja Orange for 2023 really has me wanting. The sweet whistle of a triple combined with the gorgeous orange they chose just makes me smile all over
Really liked this video. I am partial to what used to be called 'standard' motorcycles. May have to give up riding after 45 years on the road according to my medical staff. During my latest stay once again I watch your videos (along with Stuart Fillingham and Lamb Chop Rides). They cheer me up and I like the methods you use to review the motorcycles. Keep up the good work!
Really like this video Andy! To be honest, if that is the budget, I'd go for a used Street Triple. BTW, you almost have 200k subscribers, that's incredible!
It's gets harder and harder to pick a new bike these days, as they all seem very much the same.Some of the older bike's can still hold there own, as you have just Demonstrated.Very nice.
Street Triple R just never disappoints. Perhaps the Trident will be a less stressful bike to own than the STR, which wants to be opened up all the time!
Great comparo Andy, really appreciate the effort you put into doing it, cutting and editing. And you're absolutely right the ones that don't want to be included don't have to.
This was it in extremely helpful and comprehensive review, especially because I’m considering the Honda and Triumph Street triple. Just like the other comments, I think Yamaha and Kawasaki need to read these comments and learn from their mistakes and start allowing the free marketing that UA-cam gives. By the way, I think you do great reviews.
What a life you are livin' Mr Flyer, my "garage" just contains a Yamaha MT-03 (which I can only use for essential journeys - one this year so far) and a beaten up old mountain bike. Great vid as always and I love the out-takes it's nice to see you're the same as the rest of us. :>).
Just purchased a used (barely) ‘15 street triple with abs. Couldn’t be happier. Thanks for putting this out there to help me realize that I missed out on nothing by buying used. The best bike is the one that gets ridden the most.
I had settled on the trident Purley based on looks but I just recently seen that there is a headlight conversion kit to a single for the triple and makes the front end look so much better for me, every time I see the triple I just can't look past the stock headlight unit and the way it sticks out, still edging towards the trident tho because of the tech.
it's said to be more reliable than the speed triple, which has many issues - I agree on the headlights, they are atrocious ^^ I'm gonna go with the cb650r tho cause i like the engine and looks
Good comparison and interesting to see the trusty Street Triple in the mix. I've been a big fan of the Honda but the new Trident definitely gets my vote now.
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Great comparison. Trident would be absolute perfection as an RS model with 94 BHP and adjustable suspension. Same engine with a different tune, or 675cc engine.
Ahh, just what I requested last week or so. It's like you read my mind! Nice review of all 3, I pulled the trigger and bought my first bike on Saturday (blue cb650r) I think it looks the best (obv subjective) so it just had to be done. Can't wait for it to arrive and get out and about! Thanks.
I have to say that I loved the gushing over the Street Triple. It is such a magnificent bike and I am very pleased that it stands up to the new crop. I too have been looking at the new machines for a potential replacement for mine as I feel like some ABS and TC would be nice to haves. But, based on what I have seen and ridden, I just cannot find anything that gives me the same giddiness that the older Street Triple does. That being said, one plus point for the Honda - that noise! It has a wicked whine as you are accelerating and the howl of a 4 is always attractive. Reminds me of the 600 Bandit I rode for my DAS. Phew what a monster that was over 6000RPM. Fantastic video. Never sell that Triple mate. It's bloody awesome and looks the nuts! Black & gold tarts all the way.
I have a late Stripple R 12 model on a 13 plate. Still like the day i bought it. 3,700 miles ago!!! In Diablo Red!!!! Immaculate and ready to go at the twist of the throttle!!! Nice to know still nothing to really beat it after 8 years, esp with a quickshifter..!! Yeahhh baby!!
Nice little comparison Andy. It's easy to get carried away with all the latest and greatest shiny new bikes but the truth is there are some cracking good used machines out there. One of the great unsung middleweights [besides the Street Triple] is Ducati's 848 Streetfighter. It's a lovely looking bike with 132 hp on tap [more than any of the current crop of naked mids]. It handles beautifully [it has the superbike chassis] and has traction control. I don't know if you have ever ridden one but I would highly recommend a go on one. Michael Neaves [of MCN fame] still really rates them today [he had one on long term loan a few years back]. Great vid mate, keep them coming.
I could not agree more. For novice get the trident If you absolutely must have a new bike and can afford to lose min 1k as soon as you leave the dealer. Everyone else should get Street triple. Btw I had the suspension on mine set to my weight and style and it transformed the bike completely I absolutely loved it and will try to get one again at some point after leaving the U.K. as I don’t feel I should be a rental service for thieves.
I think CBR650R (Faired version of CB650) can beat all the three bikes presented here in terms of all-rounder performance. As lucrative and performance-oriented as the truimphs sound, The bike is pathetic in reliability and super-expensive to maintain. Oil leaks from the engine, crank issues, gearbox issues, frequent valve failures, and electrical issues make it more stressful to maintain a truimph. Honda on the other hand simply a bulletproof in quality lasting as much as one wants to keep it. With regards to fuel economy, the hondas make close to 26 km/Litre (About 100 kms/ US gallon), while the other two not even returns half the honda does. The most practical and maintenance-free bike is Honda for sure. Truimph is for someone who has been born with a Silver spoon and doesn't care about the spending.
An excellent review. As a champion of quality older machines, I had some idea of your final judgement, but you also provided excellent information for those who like a new machine. Sounds as though Triumph have done a great job.
@TheMissendenFlyer Amazing video. Thanks for giving us this video. You are unique compared to other UA-cam channels that you and I follow (FortNine, BennetsBike, MCN, etc) Its amazing that you do all the work entirely by your own while others usually have a crew. And your videos are far more unique too. You take us through the lovely places in and around your town and give us realistic reviews of motorcycles. Hats off to your effort sir. Cheers.
Thanks to you i got a street triple a few years ago, slightly later than yours with just abs, still love it and see nothing new that would make me want to sell it. Thanks
I enjoy your country rides particularly because I used to commute on my maxi-scooter year-round between Aylesbury and High Wycombe using the Hughenden Valley route, and I know every bit of the roads shown on this video. It was sometimes particularly interesting when there was ice around or in the dark!
Thanks for the review TMF! You reviewed all of the naked bikes that I love (albeit I wish that the STR was the latest version, but I do understand why you tested the older model). Thanks again! 😎
I’ve been thinking about a second bike, and I know I want a Triumph. When I think about the price of the new Speed Triple 1200 RS, I cringe. It’s a right proper bike, but I would seldom use it to the full potential. So I’ve been thinking about the Street Triple. I’d prefer second hand too, and this morning you post this. It’s like you read my bloody mind. Thanks and awesome video. Cheers.
I reckon you'll be happy with either the street or the speed triple as I'm sure they are both awesome. However I don't quite understand why people say they didn't buy the bigger bike because they can't use it to its full potential. While I fully agree you can't, or at least shouldn't, use a litre plus bike to it's full potential. But you can't really use a mid capacity bike to it's full potential either, a street triple will still have you eating cold porridge every morning if you get caught. I would actually make the case that a larger capacity bike makes more sense on the road because their bike powerful engines effortlessly munch mile after mile. They are just as happy plodding around using their grunt as they are roaring to the redline. Where as most middleweights don't actually have that much grunt low down and usually need revved out to get a hussle on, which lends itself to more aggressive sporty riding. Just my 2c on the matter, happy riding whatever you chose 🙂
Buy a second hand one. The R is arguably the better bike on UK roads. You'll 'only' have 140bhp which is enough no matter what anybody thinks. Numbers these days are all about willy waving. I'll lay good money there's nobody here that can ride the wheels off the old bike, myself included. There's a secondhand R on Ebay with around 4000 miles for £8200 - bargain.
A great review. You have this comparison style video nailed :). When I passed my test 14 months ago, I really wanted a Triumph Street Triple, but they wanted £1700 to insure it!! I bought a 2019 CBR650R instead, which was only £350 to insure. A big factor here in the UK, and am sure the Trident will be cheaper to insure (than the ST). Loved the Street Triple demo bike I rode, fantastic bike.
Went out this weekend and saw the new Trident, gorgeous! What stuck out to me was how compact it was. It seems even smaller than others in the class, but maybe it was just me not having another naked side by side. Either way, we have come to a point in motorcycles where you can be in a room surrounded by them, close your eyes, spin and point and land on a great bike. Thanks for the review!
I will say that I think the honda could have been revved out more. After riding a stock one just yesterday, I noticed that the bike still wanted the revs like a 600cc, although it's buzy at high rpm. I found the 650 to be the Jekyll and Hyde that I want with a 600, but with the 650 riding comfortably in 5th gear at almost any speed it feels remarkably well suited to a variety of riding styles.
Akrapovic exhaust + PAIR valve removal on the Honda and it's a different bike. After a real tune and air filter, i've heard it's even better. The thing I hate about my 650r is the midrange dip. It's torquey from 0-4krpms, drops off from 4-6krpms, and then comes back at like 7krpms. Really pisses me off and I love the bike
Good to see that you're giving us a fair chance to see the options including the street triple,, fair review enjoyed the video,, from Northern Ireland greatly appreciated ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
I too like the Street Triple R. I bought a 2018 model (765cc) after riding my son's 2102 Street Triple R. I find that I ride my Street about four times more than my other great bike a 2017 Bonneville T-120. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
What a great comparison , street triple obviously gets your vote ! Got to be careful not to upset people but i don't really like the looks of the Trident even with all its extra toys , the luggage options still bug me so just if it had to be a choice between the new bikes i'd go Honda Shame on Yamaha and Kawasaki not loaning bikes would be good to see them Best regards Shaun
Thanks for posting. LP Harman a new sponsor? ;) Interesting how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Out of those three, the Street Triple would be my bike of choice. After 10 years, the only difference is ABS and maybe traction control. Of the three bikes I have, my 2004 is probably my favorite and the least likely one I would sell. Very illuminating video.
I'm watching because I'm curious about the 660 vs the 675. I had a 675 which although is a detuned Daytona engine, it still wants to rev! It didn't like cruising at lower revs. It really wanted me to rev it hard. I know the power is down on the trident. I'm mostly curious about the torque curve and how that compares to the old triple. Comparing the 660 to the newer 765 is just not a question I'd bother asking. The power of the 765 is so good that Triumph had to increase the capacity of the Speed Triple to make it worth buying over the Street
Interesting real world comparison test,a lot more credible than a bunch of hipsters/ influencers going on a all expenses paid jolly to a bike launch in the sunshine. I love my 2014 675R,it has ABS as standard & I like the fact that it isn't cluttered with rider modes & a TFT screen,it's a better bike for not having all these electronics & gadgets. The induction roar is addictive eh? It would be interesting if you could do a review of your 675R compared to one of the 765's,how things have evolved over the years? I just need to add a 650 V Strom or a CB500X for a couple of big tours involving gravel roads where I would not be so comfortable on the 675R. Looking forward to the next real world review of the CB500X you're testing!
Cheers Mark - I have done a comparison of the new(er) Street Triple RS v my older bike a year or two back if you search for it....and more on the CB500X soon!
Thanks for this review I had a 2009 ST with Leo Vince end cans and all it wanted me to do was open her up, good to see a comparison with the Honda and the Trident.👍
I love my Triple. I’ve the same as yours. You can ride it slow or you can ride it very fast. Torque everywhere. It never fails to amaze me. Plus In black & gold it’s just a sexy thang pure & simple.
Great video Andy..I’ve just tested the new Trident and was very impressed tbh. I’m looking forward to testing the new Honda CB650R at some point. Absolutely love my 2020 street triple RS too. Take care Jake.
No surprises you went for a Triumph in the end I guess :) I do like the look of the Honda though, especially in blue. Though you cant fault the pricing and spec of the Trident. Another class-A review!
Very cool review. As a CB650R owner myself I agree with your points about the Honda and probably a bit biased here but I’d still buy the Honda again if I could repeat based on its looks and its ability to scream like an F1.
I have been pining for a bike and have been looking at new. I honestly have to say that I think you've gotten me to consider the older ST again. If I'm going to get a starter bike at a lesser price, I feel the ST is going to offer more in the long run , and then be a nice stepping stone to the newer ST, while being at a price that I will be more than happy to keep it in the stable as opposed to selling it to get something else.
Consider insurance costs too. I've been riding for 23 years and have lots of training and anything newer than 2017 was ridiculous for insurance, even though it would be owned outright. Ins on a lightly used top of the line at the time bike was 1/3 or less the cost per month.
Your videos are excellent. Yamaha and Kawasaki PR departments need to think about their marketing strategies. I'm sure most motorcycle consumers prefer this type of video where your an "ordinary" bloke (like us & ladies) . The bikes are tested in near identical circumstances on a UK both A and B roads. In my opinion far better than having a load of Journalists flown out to somewhere sunny for a bike launch where they all write the same propaganda in fear of never being invited to one again!
Nice comparison. Looked at the Trident as well. Glad I went for the Street Triple. Regarding the numbers; i believe the ST has the torque lower down the rev range at about 9200 and is 167kgs dry 😎
CB650 and Trident seem great new rider options...Street triple is in a different league! Arrow pipes, black with gold wheels and I couldn't care less if it's 9 years old! Looks an absolute hoot!
Yes like you still love the street triple, and I just wanted to mention an amazing bit of kit I found out about and have purchased one after my 8 month old BMW 1250 GS ADV lost a cell on the battery and left me stranded having to call BMW rescue out, not wanting ever to be stranded again for a dead battery I started looking at solutions, and I found something that could be priceless for motorcyclists and car drivers alike. It is a small jump starter kit that is really small but has the ability to jump start a bike or car up to twenty times from one charge, it ways two pounds is 175 mm long 75mm wide 50 mm deep and has a 500 amp lithium battery it is made in the States and it is available in the UK it is called a Noco GB 20 genius boost jump starter. Me personally will carry one in my emergency kit. I just wanted to share it with you thinking you could help many people from being stranded in the middle of nowhere, they are about 80 to 85 pounds, so not cheap but could be worth every last penny when you need to use it...
Yes I have something similar - about the size of a packet of cigarettes and I once jump started my old Range Rover with it would you believe! Got me out of a hole when I was stranded in Devon a few years back....
Purchased my 2013 Triple R for £4999 Last Christmas! It’s the later generation and has ABS , think I would choose it over the other two in the test plus it’s immaculate and came with bar end mirrors, quick shifter and a tail tidy and gb racing covers! 😁
Another great video. Though the Honda is more money I think the maintenance cost would even that out. Oil changes are better on the Trident at 10,000 miles (16000 km) vs 8000 miles (12875 km). The problem is the valve clearance check. The Trident is every 12000 miles (20000 km) while the CB650r is 24000 miles (38625 km). When I was looking at buying a Tiger 800 and asked about the cost of that service I was told it was about $800.00 vs $500.00 - $600.00 I was quoted for a Yamaha Inline 4. Since I do my own oil changes the cost is very small on that service. If you owned the bike for 50,000 miles the valve service would have cost about $3200.00 on the Triumph vs $1000.00 to $1200.00 on the Honda. Triumph also list balancing the throttle bodies every 10,000 miles, was not listed for the Honda.
Superb, as always. But a team TMF pillion perspective would be much appreciated, together with total carrying / luggage capacity. Please . Happy travels
Andy, I always enjoy your videos, but this one was useful seeing a comparison with new bikes against the older street triple, which at £5K means I would still have to stretch my finances at present to afford. Also interesting that you still rate it so much. D
Loving the ‘slide into camera’ 😝 Nothing wrong with the Street Triple tbh. Does make me increasingly reluctant to shell out £15-20k on a bike when I can get something 95% as good for a fraction of the cost
I am looking at a '12 STR tomorrow night because insurance for anything newer than 2017 is outrageous for insurance! The ST-R is well set up, light! And fully adjustable suspension.
I owned a Honda CB650F (a previous incarnation) when they were first released here in Spain. It sounded great, loved the tucked away exhaust, liked the overall look initially but I found the transmission always sounded 'harsh' .... I swopped it for a 2014 very low mileage Street Triple 675R in 2016....I still have it, My bike has ABS and is everything you ever say ( extolling lyrical) about the Bike. Still one of the best bikes of its type on the market.
Nice vid & good comparison with the Honda & Trident. Interesting how the Triumph has pushed the class on in terms of quality & price which has then brought the Honda in to play which was a bit of an outlier before. Kawasaki & Suzuki really need to pull their finger out & Yamaha too to some extent despite the MT07's decent update. Very interesting times for this class.
Agree, for any country outside the US (they seem to use 650's as learner bikes!) 650 odd cc's is sort of perfect these days powerwise for most things except perhaps long distance touring. Suzuki have sat on their laurels with the SV650 for too long and the Kawasaki has never really cut it in this segment. Looking at youtube I think that I would pick the Aprilia 660, then the Trident, then Honda. Change my mind.
@@onecookieboy If I were buying new I would agree with your list,I'd love a demo ride on the Apilia,but I'd rather buy a good low miles 675R & spend the change on holidays when we're eventually allowed to travel.
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The fact that Honda and Triumph are kind to UA-camrs makes me inclined to support those brands. Letting their products get some real reviews from locations all over the world instead of simply paid vacations with marketing videos really helps us understand them and reinforces confidence in their products. And what better testament than reviewers buying the demo units right from them? 😎
Well exactly - can't help but think Yamaha and Kawasaki are missing a huge trick!
I tend to agree. UA-cam moto vloggers are a huge influencing factor for new bike research and buying decisions. They're nuts not to support this. It's really inexpensive considering the payback. Their loss...
I’m glad to see a 2nd hand option included in a review. As someone who can’t afford a new bike at this point it’s refreshing to see! Thanks.
Cheers Adam!
@@TheMissendenFlyer there is an idea for future content. Second hand bikes. What’s the best to buy for different budget points?
@@stephenhendry447 I have to say I agree with that! A dive into the second hand market would be highly interesting.
Definately, features on used bikes...
@@stephenhendry447 That would require lots of research, shopping around and actually buying used bikes so they can be fully reviewed then selling them again. It sounds like it would be appealing to many people but not what this channel is about, Andy spends quite a lot of time already on the videos he produces and often has a few videos in 'the can' waiting to be released I'm not sure he would find much time for those kind of videos.
Bought the CB650R as my first big bike about 6 months ago. Had the Trident been out at the time it definitely would've been a contender at a lower price and with a couple extra gadgets. But I fell in love with the inline 4 engine on the honda and continue to do so every time I wind it up - it's dangerously addicting! For a stock exhaust it looks and sounds amazing but I agree with you especially on the seat. Can't wait to get off it after about 1 hour of riding. You really can't go wrong with any of these bikes though if you ask me!
I agree - every one a winner!
The seat is that bad on the honda? Been looking at that or the z900 as theyre almost identical in price. And both look good to me.
You definitely bought the most reliable bike in my opinion and the one I would pick.
First thing I'll do after I get the cb650r at the dealership I'll rip off the muffler and do a exhaust muffler delete and toss that garbage can in the lot and ride off.
@@LandonClimbs On paper the cb650r looks like a "Less feature bike" but when you ride it you just want more and more and more and more man. Hell i even read a guy who said "Street triple and cb650r arent that different even though CB 650 has 25 less hp" you need to ride it. Test it.
We need more of this type of comparisons - fewer bikes more similar type.
Still have my 2014 Street Triple R. It does have abs front and back. I still love it!
Ditto! 😊
Great to see this comparison test. Good to see that you still have your immaculate Street triple also!
I had to watch this twice (including adverts and outtakes....every little helps) to absorb all that info, and i am surprised you managed to compact so much into 17/18 minutes. Having said all that, you really do make it look easy and i'm sure it's not. I am liking the Trident more and more!
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching!
Hi Andy, Ponty Pete here, that was a good comparison of the three bikes! the two new ones dont look exiting bit ordinary but its a great way for you to show joe Bloggs what he might be Buying, many thanks, have a nice day!
You too Pete - cheers...
Happy to see the Street Triple make an appearance! I have a ‘17 675R that I love, and purchased after watching many of your videos. Grateful for all your content, TMF, keep’em coming!
Will do David cheers!
Thanks for your efforts, the winner is us to have such a great comparison head to head, thumbs up
Thanks for watching!
Interesting comparison between these three. Love the fact that, in the end your nine year old Tripple stills makes you giggle the most. 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
It does, it's still a great bike....
This was a great format for having multiple bikes back to back footage, other channels could learn from this 👍
Glad you liked it!
This was the review I was waiting for! I love all three. I don’t think you could go wrong with any of them, I think it may come down to personal preference on looks. For me it’s the Honda, especially in red or black depending on the model year. Thanks for another great video.
Yes you're right - whichever of these three you choose you'll be pleased you did - all great machines....
Just ordered mine yesterday in matt blue jeans, same color as in the video. Can't wait til june!
I bought the Honda cuz I’m die hard Honda fan, I believe they make the best internal combustion motor ever! If it’s about reliability and maintenance I think it’s a winner in the long haul.
Me too….. I’ve also read lots of horror stories online about triumph reliability issues unfortunately….. Honda for me all day.
One of your vids a couple years back convinced me to test ride a Street Triple R, Loved it, bought it, still own it, still love it! Cheers TMF 👍
Nice one Nick - told you they were good!
Just ordered the CB650R and your videos have helped me to choose!
Your reviewing format is superb.. I got what I was searching for exactly..
Thankyou for such wonderful comparison and review.
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Great video, I love my 2012 street triple aswell. I have just finished fitting the OEM triumph LED indicators on mine, what a difference that makes too the looks! She seems 10 years younger and you could definitely do a video on that mod as it involves the tank and the airbox all coming off which is loads of fun as you can imagine, well worth it though
The trident seems lovely. But ide still pick the cb650r any day. Beautiful bike, love the I4 soundtrack and the high reving screaming power. Also surprisingly comfortable for my 6’5 frame. I did however get a bagster comfort seat. The stock seat was not good for long rides
@Too Legit To Quit honestly it didn’t get uncomfortable for me unless it’s an all day ride. For 4-5 hours rides it’s very comfortable. But if You do more all day trips ide upgrade to a bagster seat like I did. Which btw the bagster seat for this bike looks badass!
@@toofastnobrakes Where can I find this seat? Name brand? Thanks!!
@@SteveSweetness34 the brand is called Bagster. You can find them on most online motorcycle retailers. Got mine on chrome burner
@@toofastnobrakes thank you!!
@@SteveSweetness34 no problem 👍
That Trident in the Baja Orange for 2023 really has me wanting. The sweet whistle of a triple combined with the gorgeous orange they chose just makes me smile all over
Really liked this video. I am partial to what used to be called 'standard' motorcycles. May have to give up riding after 45 years on the road according to my medical staff. During my latest stay once again I watch your videos (along with Stuart Fillingham and Lamb Chop Rides). They cheer me up and I like the methods you use to review the motorcycles. Keep up the good work!
Cheers Ray!
They all vibrate a lot though, when you wind them up the Speedos vibrate into a blur.🤣
Really like this video Andy! To be honest, if that is the budget, I'd go for a used Street Triple. BTW, you almost have 200k subscribers, that's incredible!
Thanks Rutger - and yes I know, unbelievable!
It's gets harder and harder to pick a new bike these days, as they all seem very much the same.Some of the older bike's can still hold there own, as you have just Demonstrated.Very nice.
Yes older bikes shouldn't be overlooked amongst all the marketing hype!
Street Triple R just never disappoints. Perhaps the Trident will be a less stressful bike to own than the STR, which wants to be opened up all the time!
Great comparo Andy, really appreciate the effort you put into doing it, cutting and editing. And you're absolutely right the ones that don't want to be included don't have to.
Much appreciated Andy - cheers!
This was it in extremely helpful and comprehensive review, especially because I’m considering the Honda and Triumph Street triple. Just like the other comments, I think Yamaha and Kawasaki need to read these comments and learn from their mistakes and start allowing the free marketing that UA-cam gives. By the way, I think you do great reviews.
Thank you very much!
What a life you are livin' Mr Flyer, my "garage" just contains a Yamaha MT-03 (which I can only use for essential journeys - one this year so far) and a beaten up old mountain bike. Great vid as always and I love the out-takes it's nice to see you're the same as the rest of us. :>).
Thank you Peter - much appreciated!
Just purchased a used (barely) ‘15 street triple with abs. Couldn’t be happier. Thanks for putting this out there to help me realize that I missed out on nothing by buying used. The best bike is the one that gets ridden the most.
Agreed!
I had settled on the trident Purley based on looks but I just recently seen that there is a headlight conversion kit to a single for the triple and makes the front end look so much better for me, every time I see the triple I just can't look past the stock headlight unit and the way it sticks out, still edging towards the trident tho because of the tech.
it's said to be more reliable than the speed triple, which has many issues - I agree on the headlights, they are atrocious ^^ I'm gonna go with the cb650r tho cause i like the engine and looks
Good comparison and interesting to see the trusty Street Triple in the mix. I've been a big fan of the
Honda but the new Trident definitely gets my vote now.
Entertaining start to the week, thanks Andy. Loved the out takes too!!
Glad you like them and thanks for watching once again!
Man cave is better stocked than many motorbike stores!
Great comparison. Trident would be absolute perfection as an RS model with 94 BHP and adjustable suspension. Same engine with a different tune, or 675cc engine.
Ahh, just what I requested last week or so. It's like you read my mind!
Nice review of all 3, I pulled the trigger and bought my first bike on Saturday (blue cb650r)
I think it looks the best (obv subjective) so it just had to be done.
Can't wait for it to arrive and get out and about!
Thanks.
Hey exciting times Stephen - congratulations!
Congratulations Stephen. Hope you have a fantastic summers riding ahead of you 👍
@@cp4512 cheers man. Hope so too. Bring on the sun!
best comparison vids ive seen. subscribed intantly! thank you!!!!
Welcome aboard!
these are actually the 3 bikes i am currently deciding between as my second bike.... thanks for this vid!
My pleasure!
I have to say that I loved the gushing over the Street Triple. It is such a magnificent bike and I am very pleased that it stands up to the new crop. I too have been looking at the new machines for a potential replacement for mine as I feel like some ABS and TC would be nice to haves. But, based on what I have seen and ridden, I just cannot find anything that gives me the same giddiness that the older Street Triple does.
That being said, one plus point for the Honda - that noise! It has a wicked whine as you are accelerating and the howl of a 4 is always attractive. Reminds me of the 600 Bandit I rode for my DAS. Phew what a monster that was over 6000RPM.
Fantastic video. Never sell that Triple mate. It's bloody awesome and looks the nuts! Black & gold tarts all the way.
Yes you can't beat a bit of black and gold....although it can be equaled...stay tuned!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Ooooh really? This I HAVE to see. Don't keep me waiting too long!
I can imagine that the Trident is great but... I bought and still own the Honda and it’s AWESOME. Great video, again.
Thanks! 👍
I have a late Stripple R 12 model on a 13 plate. Still like the day i bought it. 3,700 miles ago!!! In Diablo Red!!!! Immaculate and ready to go at the twist of the throttle!!! Nice to know still nothing to really beat it after 8 years, esp with a quickshifter..!! Yeahhh baby!!
I agree!
Nice little comparison Andy. It's easy to get carried away with all the latest and greatest shiny new bikes but the truth is there are some cracking good used machines out there. One of the great unsung middleweights [besides the Street Triple] is Ducati's 848 Streetfighter. It's a lovely looking bike with 132 hp on tap [more than any of the current crop of naked mids]. It handles beautifully [it has the superbike chassis] and has traction control. I don't know if you have ever ridden one but I would highly recommend a go on one. Michael Neaves [of MCN fame] still really rates them today [he had one on long term loan a few years back]. Great vid mate, keep them coming.
No I haven'tridden one but funnily enough was only looking at one a couple of days ago - I agree, great bike!
Lovely comparison vid sir! 👏
Coming from you high praise indeed - thank you sir! (and please say hello to Mavis from me)
@@TheMissendenFlyer she says bugger off... Sorry its the time of the month... firmware update time!
Careful Chopsy careful!
I could not agree more. For novice get the trident If you absolutely must have a new bike and can afford to lose min 1k as soon as you leave the dealer. Everyone else should get Street triple. Btw I had the suspension on mine set to my weight and style and it transformed the bike completely I absolutely loved it and will try to get one again at some point after leaving the U.K. as I don’t feel I should be a rental service for thieves.
I think CBR650R (Faired version of CB650) can beat all the three bikes presented here in terms of all-rounder performance. As lucrative and performance-oriented as the truimphs sound, The bike is pathetic in reliability and super-expensive to maintain.
Oil leaks from the engine, crank issues, gearbox issues, frequent valve failures, and electrical issues make it more stressful to maintain a truimph. Honda on the other hand simply a bulletproof in quality lasting as much as one wants to keep it. With regards to fuel economy, the hondas make close to 26 km/Litre (About 100 kms/ US gallon), while the other two not even returns half the honda does. The most practical and maintenance-free bike is Honda for sure.
Truimph is for someone who has been born with a Silver spoon and doesn't care about the spending.
Would there be a reason to choose the CBR over the CB 650s, sir?
An excellent review. As a champion of quality older machines, I had some idea of your final judgement, but you also provided excellent information for those who like a new machine. Sounds as though Triumph have done a great job.
Yes I think they have.....
@TheMissendenFlyer
Amazing video. Thanks for giving us this video.
You are unique compared to other UA-cam channels that you and I follow (FortNine, BennetsBike, MCN, etc) Its amazing that you do all the work entirely by your own while others usually have a crew. And your videos are far more unique too. You take us through the lovely places in and around your town and give us realistic reviews of motorcycles.
Hats off to your effort sir. Cheers.
Wow, thanks!
Thanks to you i got a street triple a few years ago, slightly later than yours with just abs, still love it and see nothing new that would make me want to sell it. Thanks
They are darned good aren't they - especially the older ones I think.....
I enjoy your country rides particularly because I used to commute on my maxi-scooter year-round between Aylesbury and High Wycombe using the Hughenden Valley route, and I know every bit of the roads shown on this video. It was sometimes particularly interesting when there was ice around or in the dark!
🥶
Thanks for the review TMF! You reviewed all of the naked bikes that I love (albeit I wish that the STR was the latest version, but I do understand why you tested the older model). Thanks again! 😎
My pleasure....
I am really started to really like the Trident......but also love your Speed Triple as well.....great vlog.......stay safe......thanks for sharing
My pleasure...
Thanks.Suddenly highlights the value of ABS.Cheers.
I’ve been thinking about a second bike, and I know I want a Triumph. When I think about the price of the new Speed Triple 1200 RS, I cringe. It’s a right proper bike, but I would seldom use it to the full potential. So I’ve been thinking about the Street Triple. I’d prefer second hand too, and this morning you post this. It’s like you read my bloody mind. Thanks and awesome video. Cheers.
I reckon you'll be happy with either the street or the speed triple as I'm sure they are both awesome. However I don't quite understand why people say they didn't buy the bigger bike because they can't use it to its full potential. While I fully agree you can't, or at least shouldn't, use a litre plus bike to it's full potential. But you can't really use a mid capacity bike to it's full potential either, a street triple will still have you eating cold porridge every morning if you get caught. I would actually make the case that a larger capacity bike makes more sense on the road because their bike powerful engines effortlessly munch mile after mile. They are just as happy plodding around using their grunt as they are roaring to the redline. Where as most middleweights don't actually have that much grunt low down and usually need revved out to get a hussle on, which lends itself to more aggressive sporty riding. Just my 2c on the matter, happy riding whatever you chose 🙂
Buy a second hand one. The R is arguably the better bike on UK roads. You'll 'only' have 140bhp which is enough no matter what anybody thinks. Numbers these days are all about willy waving. I'll lay good money there's nobody here that can ride the wheels off the old bike, myself included. There's a secondhand R on Ebay with around 4000 miles for £8200 - bargain.
A great review. You have this comparison style video nailed :). When I passed my test 14 months ago, I really wanted a Triumph Street Triple, but they wanted £1700 to insure it!! I bought a 2019 CBR650R instead, which was only £350 to insure. A big factor here in the UK, and am sure the Trident will be cheaper to insure (than the ST). Loved the Street Triple demo bike I rode, fantastic bike.
:o My cb650r is £1200 to insure your lucky man xD
@@squirms I guess age and location has a factor :). I wonder what your quote would be for a street triple..
Yes good points on the insurance....
Went out this weekend and saw the new Trident, gorgeous! What stuck out to me was how compact it was. It seems even smaller than others in the class, but maybe it was just me not having another naked side by side. Either way, we have come to a point in motorcycles where you can be in a room surrounded by them, close your eyes, spin and point and land on a great bike. Thanks for the review!
Totally agree!
I have a 2013 street triple and it’s sooooooo much fun 🤩
I will say that I think the honda could have been revved out more. After riding a stock one just yesterday, I noticed that the bike still wanted the revs like a 600cc, although it's buzy at high rpm. I found the 650 to be the Jekyll and Hyde that I want with a 600, but with the 650 riding comfortably in 5th gear at almost any speed it feels remarkably well suited to a variety of riding styles.
It also feels planted at all times. With some more aggressive tires than stock, the Honda could feel like a bit of a hoon machine. Well done Honda
Yes and it looks good!
Akrapovic exhaust + PAIR valve removal on the Honda and it's a different bike. After a real tune and air filter, i've heard it's even better. The thing I hate about my 650r is the midrange dip. It's torquey from 0-4krpms, drops off from 4-6krpms, and then comes back at like 7krpms. Really pisses me off and I love the bike
Good to see that you're giving us a fair chance to see the options including the street triple,, fair review enjoyed the video,, from Northern Ireland greatly appreciated ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching and for stopping by!
Great review Andy. A very interesting comparison. Incidentally, I am now obsessed with the white vans in your area. I counted 4.
They’re everywhere!!!!
I too like the Street Triple R. I bought a 2018 model (765cc) after riding my son's 2102 Street Triple R. I find that I ride my Street about four times more than my other great bike a 2017 Bonneville T-120.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
Thanks or watching!
"Went so fast, my vision blurred. Especially on the speedo." ^^)
Strange eh?
Interesting that this video is still relevant in 2024. The only bike missing being the cb750.
Top Job TMF, as per usual. But have to say the black van at the end spoiled the video a bit for me, it's not as good as the white van...
Sorry about that - must try harder....
lol :>)
Thanks Andy great comparison reviews.
My pleasure!
Great comparison video, if I was buying new the triumph, but for 5 k defo the street triple
What a great comparison , street triple obviously gets your vote !
Got to be careful not to upset people but i don't really like the looks of the Trident even with all its extra toys , the luggage options still bug me so just if it had to be a choice between the new bikes i'd go Honda
Shame on Yamaha and Kawasaki not loaning bikes would be good to see them
Best regards Shaun
Cheers Shaun and I agree about the Trident looks - not for me!
Thanks for posting. LP Harman a new sponsor? ;) Interesting how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Out of those three, the Street Triple would be my bike of choice. After 10 years, the only difference is ABS and maybe traction control. Of the three bikes I have, my 2004 is probably my favorite and the least likely one I would sell. Very illuminating video.
Glad we concur - I googled "LP Harman" but am none the wiser???
...ah the van - got you!!
Love these kind of reviews thanks Andy, as a Street triple owner totally biased clearly only one winner, Cheers TMF
My pleasure!
I'm watching because I'm curious about the 660 vs the 675. I had a 675 which although is a detuned Daytona engine, it still wants to rev! It didn't like cruising at lower revs. It really wanted me to rev it hard.
I know the power is down on the trident. I'm mostly curious about the torque curve and how that compares to the old triple.
Comparing the 660 to the newer 765 is just not a question I'd bother asking. The power of the 765 is so good that Triumph had to increase the capacity of the Speed Triple to make it worth buying over the Street
Interesting real world comparison test,a lot more credible than a bunch of hipsters/ influencers going on a all expenses paid jolly to a bike launch in the sunshine.
I love my 2014 675R,it has ABS as standard & I like the fact that it isn't cluttered with rider modes & a TFT screen,it's a better bike for not having all these electronics & gadgets.
The induction roar is addictive eh?
It would be interesting if you could do a review of your 675R compared to one of the 765's,how things have evolved over the years?
I just need to add a 650 V Strom or a CB500X for a couple of big tours involving gravel roads where I would not be so comfortable on the 675R.
Looking forward to the next real world review of the CB500X you're testing!
Cheers Mark - I have done a comparison of the new(er) Street Triple RS v my older bike a year or two back if you search for it....and more on the CB500X soon!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Sorry Andy I forgot about you doing that Street Triple comparison the other year.I'll be watching the 500X uploads with interest!
That was a great real world test. Keep it up. Terry from Sutton
Thanks, will do Terry....
Thanks for this review I had a 2009 ST with Leo Vince end cans and all it wanted me to do was open her up, good to see a comparison with the Honda and the Trident.👍
No problem 👍
I love my Triple. I’ve the same as yours. You can ride it slow or you can ride it very fast. Torque everywhere. It never fails to amaze me. Plus In black & gold it’s just a sexy thang pure & simple.
Yup!
G'Day TMF. Andy,well done with this video i thoroughly enjoyed it. Street Triples rule my friend. Thanks
My pleasure Robert - glad you liked it....
Great video Andy..I’ve just tested the new Trident and was very impressed tbh. I’m looking forward to testing the new Honda CB650R at some point. Absolutely love my 2020 street triple RS too. Take care Jake.
Cheers Jake and thanks for stopping by!
Great review, very enjoyable. Have you a review video of just the Honda CB650R?
Really enjoy your reviews, very informative and entertaining.
Coming soon!
Hi Andy, off topic but just bought a couple of Liteloks via your link so cheers for the discount 👍
You’re welcome! They’re good aren’t they....
No surprises you went for a Triumph in the end I guess :) I do like the look of the Honda though, especially in blue. Though you cant fault the pricing and spec of the Trident. Another class-A review!
Thank you....
It’s amazing how your camera goes fuzzy at 60mph 🤣
The Street Triple is definitely the best looking, especially in the John Player Special colours. 👍
So true!
Very cool review. As a CB650R owner myself I agree with your points about the Honda and probably a bit biased here but I’d still buy the Honda again if I could repeat based on its looks and its ability to scream like an F1.
I have been pining for a bike and have been looking at new. I honestly have to say that I think you've gotten me to consider the older ST again. If I'm going to get a starter bike at a lesser price, I feel the ST is going to offer more in the long run , and then be a nice stepping stone to the newer ST, while being at a price that I will be more than happy to keep it in the stable as opposed to selling it to get something else.
Consider insurance costs too. I've been riding for 23 years and have lots of training and anything newer than 2017 was ridiculous for insurance, even though it would be owned outright. Ins on a lightly used top of the line at the time bike was 1/3 or less the cost per month.
Your videos are excellent. Yamaha and Kawasaki PR departments need to think about their marketing strategies. I'm sure most motorcycle consumers prefer this type of video where your an "ordinary" bloke (like us & ladies) . The bikes are tested in near identical circumstances on a UK both A and B roads. In my opinion far better than having a load of Journalists flown out to somewhere sunny for a bike launch where they all write the same propaganda in fear of never being invited to one again!
Couldn't agree more Mark which is why I've adopted this approach - I try and make the videos I like to watch myself.....glad they work for you!
Nice comparison. Looked at the Trident as well. Glad I went for the Street Triple.
Regarding the numbers; i believe the ST has the torque lower down the rev range at about 9200 and is 167kgs dry 😎
Thanks for the info!
CB650 and Trident seem great new rider options...Street triple is in a different league! Arrow pipes, black with gold wheels and I couldn't care less if it's 9 years old! Looks an absolute hoot!
Cheers Dan - It is!
Happy to see I'm not missing out by going with a 08 Street Triple !
No way - you're winning!
Got my Trident yesterday. Same color as this one in this vid. Great bike. The engine is a peach. 🍑
Superb video as always. I agree I'd rather have the street triple as well.
Yes like you still love the street triple, and I just wanted to mention an amazing bit of kit I found out about and have purchased one after my 8 month old BMW 1250 GS ADV lost a cell on the battery and left me stranded having to call BMW rescue out, not wanting ever to be stranded again for a dead battery I started looking at solutions, and I found something that could be priceless for motorcyclists and car drivers alike. It is a small jump starter kit that is really small but has the ability to jump start a bike or car up to twenty times from one charge, it ways two pounds is 175 mm long 75mm wide 50 mm deep and has a 500 amp lithium battery it is made in the States and it is available in the UK it is called a Noco GB 20 genius boost jump starter. Me personally will carry one in my emergency kit. I just wanted to share it with you thinking you could help many people from being stranded in the middle of nowhere, they are about 80 to 85 pounds, so not cheap but could be worth every last penny when you need to use it...
Yes I have something similar - about the size of a packet of cigarettes and I once jump started my old Range Rover with it would you believe! Got me out of a hole when I was stranded in Devon a few years back....
Purchased my 2013 Triple R for £4999 Last Christmas! It’s the later generation and has ABS , think I would choose it over the other two in the test plus it’s immaculate and came with bar end mirrors, quick shifter and a tail tidy and gb racing covers! 😁
Nice one (except the GB racing covers!)
@@TheMissendenFlyer haha OOOoooo atleast no stubby levers
@@TheMissendenFlyer whats wrong with gb covers?
thank you. I was hoping someone would do these kind of comparison. Cheers mate
You’re welcome - thanks for watching
Hi mate, been enjoying your videos lately. If you had to compare the vitpilen 701 to this bunch how would it fair???? Cheers
Not very well!
Another great video. Though the Honda is more money I think the maintenance cost would even that out. Oil changes are better on the Trident at 10,000 miles (16000 km) vs 8000 miles (12875 km). The problem is the valve clearance check. The Trident is every 12000 miles (20000 km) while the CB650r is 24000 miles (38625 km). When I was looking at buying a Tiger 800 and asked about the cost of that service I was told it was about $800.00 vs $500.00 - $600.00 I was quoted for a Yamaha Inline 4. Since I do my own oil changes the cost is very small on that service. If you owned the bike for 50,000 miles the valve service would have cost about $3200.00 on the Triumph vs $1000.00 to $1200.00 on the Honda. Triumph also list balancing the throttle bodies every 10,000 miles, was not listed for the Honda.
Nice bit of analysis - thanks....
Superb, as always. But a team TMF pillion perspective would be much appreciated, together with total carrying / luggage capacity. Please
. Happy travels
Andy, I always enjoy your videos, but this one was useful seeing a comparison with new bikes against the older street triple, which at £5K means I would still have to stretch my finances at present to afford. Also interesting that you still rate it so much. D
Yes don't fall for all the marketing hurrah David - old bikes still have plenty to offer.....in some cases more!
Loving the ‘slide into camera’ 😝
Nothing wrong with the Street Triple tbh. Does make me increasingly reluctant to shell out £15-20k on a bike when I can get something 95% as good for a fraction of the cost
Well that was kinda the point I was making yes...
I am looking at a '12 STR tomorrow night because insurance for anything newer than 2017 is outrageous for insurance! The ST-R is well set up, light! And fully adjustable suspension.
I owned a Honda CB650F (a previous incarnation) when they were first released here in Spain. It sounded great, loved the tucked away exhaust, liked the overall look initially but I found the transmission always sounded 'harsh' .... I swopped it for a 2014 very low mileage Street Triple 675R in 2016....I still have it, My bike has ABS and is everything you ever say ( extolling lyrical) about the Bike. Still one of the best bikes of its type on the market.
Couldn't agree more!
The Chosen Comparison has finally been delivered as prophesied by the flyer
Informative Really Great And Very Real Review Thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching!
Nice vid & good comparison with the Honda & Trident. Interesting how the Triumph has pushed the class on in terms of quality & price which has then brought the Honda in to play which was a bit of an outlier before. Kawasaki & Suzuki really need to pull their finger out & Yamaha too to some extent despite the MT07's decent update. Very interesting times for this class.
Agreed! Thanks for watching
Agree, for any country outside the US (they seem to use 650's as learner bikes!) 650 odd cc's is sort of perfect these days powerwise for most things except perhaps long distance touring. Suzuki have sat on their laurels with the SV650 for too long and the Kawasaki has never really cut it in this segment. Looking at youtube I think that I would pick the Aprilia 660, then the Trident, then Honda. Change my mind.
@@onecookieboy If I were buying new I would agree with your list,I'd love a demo ride on the Apilia,but I'd rather buy a good low miles 675R & spend the change on holidays when we're eventually allowed to travel.
The Trident and the Honda would both make great commuters. Of the two I’d have the Honda. Thanks for another fun review.
Blurs the tacho while mentioning 70mph :-) Just subbed to this channel!
Thank you Peter - welcome along!