Top 10 Once Upon a Time Plot Holes You Didn’t Notice
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- It’s time to look at the Once Upon a Time plot holes you didn’t notice. We’ll be looking at plot holes, inconsistencies and anything that makes no sense from the Enchanted Forest to Storybrooke in the fairy tale drama television series. No amount of magic could make us forget about these inconsistencies now. MsMojo ranks the Once Upon a Time plot holes you didn’t notice. Are there any Once plot holes we didn’t notice? Let us know in the comments!
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I've said this once and I'll say this again: THEY DID MULAN SO DIRTY!
Charli Kuran I agree
Well, at least she'll have a live action movie this year.
Thank you
No shit! I mean from a sociopolitical standpoint, Mulan getting sidelined in favor of the other Disney princesses looks very very bad. Especially in an era where diversification of characters and casting choices is becoming more and more argued over
They had no right! the audacity...
#1.5: What happened to Jefferson?
Answer: He got an MCU upgrade.
Best one yet...love it.
Also Sebastian Stan (jefferson) dated the actress who played Emma and so I'm guessing it would have been awkward to bring him back after they broke up
#1.25 What happened to Graham? He got a Grey upgrade.
@@garyjones2561 more like a downgrade?! Jaime Dornan would agree!
Great
Hook must have been slightly annoyed when he was resurrected. "I came back to life, but I'm still missing my hand!"
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🤣🤣🤣
He could have asked Rumple back for it when he turned good. Yeah, my answer came a bit late lol
#4 was explained in the show. Cora shielded a certain part of the enchanted forest from Regina's curse and anyone in the part of the forest was not transported to Storybrooke.
#6 Grandma gave Ruby a Magic Bean so she could move back to the enchanted forest. The bigger mystery to me was where were all these magic beans popping up whenever someone needed one when they were all supposed to be destroyed. Even the ones Tiny grew in Storybrooke were destroyed by Regina and Cora.
I'm one of those people who wished Season 7 didn't happen. Maybe if they had to have a season 7 stay in Storybrooke and focus on another character's story we would have liked to see like Lily, Mulan or Ruby, season 7 would have been better.
Right whoever wrote this didn't watch the show
I think we all wished Season 7 didn't exist.
Not only that but Cora’s protection spell froze time for that portion of the Enchanted Forest until the curse was broken. That’s why nobody was aware people were missing sooner.
Season 7 happened because the show runners didn’t want to be done, despite most of the cast being done. I do like Rumple’s happy ending though.
My question is how did Captain Hook so stuff during the curse if he was frozen?
@Alyssa Ramcharan so stuff?
I miss Ruby's character, I really wish we could have seen her have more adventures.
Yeah, and her adventures with Snow were very cute.
Yes. Also shouldn't we have seen her with zelena in the finally or did she go in the void then got brought back. Either way we should have seen them in oz
Hey! Megan Ory the actress of Ruby got another show where she was the lead so she didn't have much time to be in Once. The small scenes she's there is the time she's got off of the other
Oh fr? She grew more on me later on, but at some point she was SO annoying! She was drowning in self-pity about being a monster and deserving no less than death, ugh... I hate characters like that.
i started watching once upon a time like a month ago. bad decision I'm addicted now
Karl S I started on the first episode i have been binge watching it for over three months now.
@Ua la Halizeti why did you click on the video then XD
might be a lot your just going to roll your eyes at
My sister quit after season 2, and my mom stopped after season 4. I watched the whole series, and even I got tired after the end of season 6.5
Me too!!!!!
You are like me but almost three years ago; I discovered it just when the last season ends (so sad), but still alive thanks to fans and fanfictions.
MAGIC the answer to everything is magic
keys2thekingdom Magic always comes with a price
@@jessicacarter9988 Why do you think the show went down the drain after season 3A?
a wizard did it!!!
And dont forget... Magic ALWAYS comes with a price
@@delciapierre8350 Rlly. Cuz were i'm looking it looks like that only happens when the plot needs it. We see lot's of people use it like with fire balls and they do that all the time.
I loved Once Upon A Time until season 7 and the only thing I like about season 7 is seeing the happy ending of Rumple and Belle
Kimmy Panem
That never should have happened 😂 yeah the ending was cute but S6 should’ve been the end
I enjoyed Season 7. At the same time, it should have been presented as a side story/separate entity.
This didn't make sense either but yeah
I stopped watching after season 6 ended because I knew that Emma and her parents wouldn't come back for the seventh, so for me the season 6 finale is the series finale
I pretend season 7 never happened. Lol.
I don’t care about any of this I love the show
Ben Lloyd tbh same
I agree.
I enjoyed the show a lot and while some parts bothered me (Like Rumple lusting for more power in S4 and at the end the Camelot Arc), I'm glad it all worked out. Both the Season 6 AND Season 7 Finale ended on a good note for me. Sure there are still some plot holes/unanswered questions/ character ages not lining up, but overall I love the series overall. Regina's ending speech about the ups and downs in life over the course of the series rings true to real life. A happy ending is possible
I agree
Me too bro
Me too bro
“Mulan always seems to be the friend in someone else’s story” OH MY GOD
after watching this show over and over again COUNTLESS times (mainly because I could never get past season 4 but don’t worry I finally finished it last year lmao) I NEVER REALIZED MULAN NEVER REALLY GOT HER OWN EPISODE
7. It's not like she can immediately sense if someone is lying or not like an actual Superpower. she just calls it that to make herself feel more confident in what she is doing. It's more likely that she simply learned a lot of tricks during her time as an orphan and later bails bonds person, and that she simply knows a lot about signs to look for when someone is lying. It isn't easy to do that if you are emotionally involved or if they are really good at hiding certain signs. Also especially in Season 2 we see how hard it is for Emma to cope in a world full of magic, so it's hard for her to trust in her abilities anymore if all the rules she has learned don't seem to apply anymore.
Season 7 should’ve just been about wrapping up a lot of these loose ends
So many left the show tho
@@TVwriter23 But they did come as guest appearances. But it could be for the side characters though. Like lily mulan or merida or ruby. Could be about them and other charecters pop in once in a while.
I think that season 7 should have just been a spin off rather than trying to be part of the original show. I agree with you that it should definitely have been used to tie-up the loose ends (of which there are multitudes) and they could have included some of the characters we'd come to love rather than bring in so many more people.
@@travelwell6049 I'm fine with 2 new characters for me those are alice and robin. Or Tilly and margot. For me those are the only good part about the series.
Wasn't the reason for some of the the enchanted forest people stayed because they were in the area that Cora protected from the curse??
Heather Scottie yup
yep
Yes
Most of these were either explained in the show, or just complicated and confusing but still made sense (like the timelines).
The biggest plot hole to me was all the portals and magic beans. Rumple had suppedly been looking for one for decades, and then throughout the show there were more and more. By season 7 it was just funny
The characters ages were a mystery I filled in with my head😂.
Many shows lack this tho
One can assume they're in their thirties-sixties when you first see them, but given the fact that they've been living in a town that is "outside of time" where they are essentially ageless, they're actually in their fifties-eighties. Between that and the fact that everyone older than that, namely Rumplestiltskin and Hook, are older than three-hundred years, and Gothel, who's probably four-hundred years old, it's pretty safe to assume that Magic is the source of their de-aged state.
Same thing with "The Walking Dead"
The kids are growing / aging but no one ever says how old anyone is or how long they've been together.
Liam Series review i got grounded for a week one time so i decided to figure out their family tree and most of their ages i regret nothing
@@glitchtrapthebunny3977 lol
Henry is the only one seemingly growing up because he was born in the real world. Thats why when the curse hit and all the other characters where going back to the enchanted forest, Emma and Henry are the only ones that could stay. They even mention it. Henry would've been left alone there. Emma would've gone to the forest too because she was born there, but aged normally in the real world because there was no magic. Really almost all of these so called "plot holes" could be solved by just you know watching the show.
For #4 the answer was that Cora shielded that part of the land to protect herself and Hook from falling into the curse, and everyone within Cora's shield was protected from the curse as well.
Actually they answered why some people scaped the first curse, because Cora made a protection spell to save her and Killian from the curse, where they would be frozen in time, and when the time was right they would come back to the mission. We see that the protection spell covered a big area from the Enchanted Forest, and that's why a lot of people like Aurora, Phillip and Mulan weren't brought to Storybrooke.
Exactly only that the protection spell ended at the exact time when Emma broke the curse in Storybrooke. They were frozen for the same time as the curse
For #8, since it’s a curse that can be broken, perhaps the book just showing up is a sign that their stories can never be erased and that they’ll always exist. Mary Margaret giving the book to Henry was the start of this curse being broken. So maybe there’s some underlying magic under the curse that makes the book appear during all the curses. That’s only a theory and hopefully that made sense. Haha
Anybody else fell in love with Jaime Dornan in this show and went on to be severely disappointed?
late to the party to answer this but Yes! like before he left for the 50 shades deal when season 1 had just come out and I had hope for Regina to love again and it be with Graham aka the huntsman
An honorable mention: Whatever happened to Jefferson?
Did they ever resolve Jefferson’s story? I know Sebastian Stan couldn’t do the show after Season 2 because of him becoming the Winter Soldier but we never got a good resolution to his storyline or what happened to him.
MrMainandSmash They sort of did. His daughter and him were reunited and that was the last we see of him in the present.
That's right. He got his happy ending. So it's safe to assume they've been living happily ever after in Storybrooke for the rest of the series.
Once upon a time in wonderland covered his story, I think.
My question was what happened to Robin Hoods son? They all left and were never seen again
That’s bothered me so much too. They could’ve reintroduced him in season 7 with his sister. He could’ve been in Hyperion Heights with Margot or something. Zelena even said they would visit him with his sister in Sherwood Forest someday. Lies...
@@kgunbox2605 Yeah, and to think Zelena was the assassin who killed Roland's mother like what Regina did.
@DarkVoid is
I just assumed that the merry men adopted him
Ruby and Dorthy had a five second romance
The writers were like: "Aaaand that's enough gay for the show." 😔
@@sakurafalls2468 but at least they realized that they fucked up and gave us MadArcher as an apology xd
@@sakurafalls2468 At least we got Robin and Alice 😭
@@crystalcosmicreads I don't know those people 😂 I stopped watching after the 6th season haha.
@@sakurafalls2468 ohh lmao. They’re in S7. Robin is the daughter of Zelena and Robin Hood and Alice is the daughter of Captain Hook (wish realm) and Mother Gothel
Cora Shelded part of Enchanted Forest.
Ye was thinking thats the reason for 4#
Yeah but what is with Arendelle, highlands and other places?
@@hbluemole6941 may not be effected.
@@hbluemole6941 think regina only wanted the ppl from the enchanted forest
Blue Mole arendelle isn’t apart of the enchanted forest because Anna has to travel over seas to get there
Yeah I really wish that they were added more characters like Mary Poppins, Tron, Jack Frost, Santa Claus, Moana, the characters from the black cauldron or even Simba from the lion King!
The show was cancelled. There's no telling what new characters the writers planned to introduce, but judging by Season 7, it's probably best that it was cancelled. What made this show special is how they connected all the characters together. Some simply can not be connected in any interesting/meaningful way.
I Will admit their family tree is a headache to memories, trust me I tried.
Wasn't par of the enchanted forest protected by Cora with Hook explaining why some of its people remainde there ?
Diane Valentino It was, I don’t know how they missed that part.
Right! I had answers for most of these inconsistencies too
Yes
Yes
I never noticed any of these issues, mainly because I've had my own "headcanon" ideas of how they got resolved. Here is my list of such explanations for THIS list.
10. I never really thought that much on the characters ages, to be honest. I mean...when you've lived in a town that's been frozen in time for a long period, it's bound to have done something to them physically. Plus, storybook characters don't really age; unless others have forgotten about them.
To elaborate; in the realm of animation, stuff like Tiny Toon Adventures revealed that laughter keeps toons "young." When the laughter stops, they grow old and forgotten. This same idea could explain why the fairy tale characters in OUAT never aged.
9. In the time it took to create the curse AND Storybrook, Regina and Rumple must've made it so that the town would never run out of resources. If it did, that would lead to people leaving the town; which would then put their plans at risk.
8. My theory is that it's not the book itself that's important, it's the WORDS inside it; specifically, the Author's words. Once The Author puts his powers to work on the paper, that's when things start to happen. Thus, the book itself isn't all that important; it's just something to record the "histories" of these characters.
7. It's not really a "super power" in a literal sense; rather, I saw it as Emma having a strong intuition and judgment of character. As for what "happened to it;" my guess is that after everything she experienced, she chose to trust her heart more than her instincts.
6. If we remember correctly, Ruby chose to remain with Dorothy; after she saved her life. Now; as for what happened to her in the series finale, when all the realms merged together...my guess is she's still with Dorothy.
But I would've liked to see her pop by the diner, after the big battle; to be honest.
5. The Evil Queen side of Regina wasn't really...severe levels of evil like Joker, Thanos or...even Rick Sanchez. But rather, I saw her as a sort of "Neutral Evil," as is known in the realm of D&D. She's not quite as bad as the Dark One...but isn't someone you should pick on.
4. I would guess that, as Lancelot said, the spell only affected a specific region of the magical/fairy tale realm. The Enchanted Forest (known as Misthaven to the people of Arendel, Anna and Elsa's homeland) must've been home to all of Regina's enemies (Snow White, Charming, Red, the Dwarves, Pinocchio etc.) As such, those outside the region like Aurora or Mulan might've been spared.
3. I would guess that Mulan's still working as a protector for those in need of help; like maybe, Aurora or Merida. She never quite stuck with me like other characters in the show did. But at the same time, I would've loved to see if Shang appeared in the series.
2. While I'm not certain if these count as typical laws, they are still moral ones where magic is concerned. Such examples include forbidding the use of necromancy, you can't manipulate emotions (like love) for your own gain (i.e. force a person to fall in love with you,) you can't use a genie's wishes to kill someone and other such examples.
But in the case for this "plot hole," there's a big difference between bringing someone back to the living world and bringing life back into their dead body. Where the former is concerned, they are brought back via a sort of "heavenly second chance" by some angelic figure (or the gods, in the show's case.)
In terms of the latter, that is where necromancy comes into play. This form of dark magic involves stripping the life force out of any living beings around you and using this energy to bring life back into the individual. This is considered a great sin in the fantasy genre...but the bad guys still practice it, regardless.
1. I do believe it's mentioned within the season that Hyperion Heights takes place outside of time (I do believe they call it a pocket dimension.) As such, it works a little differently than how things did in Storybrooke. As for the different versions of characters; as Henry pointed out, there are loads of alternative versions of these characters.
Thus, the Cinderella Henry meets is someone whom I've dubbed "Earth 2 Cinderella." She may have the same name and a near similar backstory...but is from an entirely different world than the original. As for the answer to your question; yes, Henry STILL possesses his Author Powers...even the Wish Realm version
Earth 2? Do u watch flash?
"Neutral Evil, Like in D&D" I see you are someone of culture as well
4) it was bc Cora put up a magical shield thingy to stop the curse from effecting a certain area of the enchanted forest
@@VagueVAA Yes, I DID watch it
@@sadlobster1 oh ight
Actually Cora put a shield or a protection spell on some region of Enchanted Forrest, that's how people there managed to escape the curse.
You wonder “ What are the rules of magic” ?
Easy enough there’s only one rule: Wicked Alwasy wins!
I’ve watched season 7 several times and eventually I ended up actually enjoying it. If they had been able to go forward with season 8 I think season 7 would have sat better with fans.
I couldn’t stand the main character for some reason lol she was soo annoying
Damn, Mulan would've been an awesome character to have. Having a badass warrior would've made things so much easier... ooohhh
This show defined my whole life at the age 14. But I would be lying if I said that half of the whole show made sense, you just watched and went "meh" whenever some anomally happened!
The entire concept of this show was so great! I was hooked after the first few episodes. If this were in the hands of a network like HBO or Showtime it could have been LEAGUES better. But let's be honest...the show started tanking once they introduced the cast of Frozen. Too soon, IMO.
Well it was said it would move to Disney Plus in September I think.
Couldn’t agree more. For some reasons, the show lost it’s spark from season 4 for me.
4. Regina legit says "I brought who I wanted."
Lol I remember but I think it was more of a snarky comment
10: Henry got older in Storybrooke because he was born outside, in Pheonix, and was not under the original curse and no one noticed because they were cursed to live out their own boring lives, just like Regina wanted them to. Also the writers made it very that age can be factored in lots of different ways throughout the series so the audience should have to question the characters ages. This is mostly seen here: The different realms make people age at different speeds when compared to the land without magic. This is mostly seen in season 7 when Henry goes off and grows up in a world where it only seems like a few years for the people in Storybrooke (7x02). This is also seen when Rumple and Belle go off and live the rest of their lives in that world where the sun doesn't go down and so Belle grows old while her son stays the same age (7x04). Also Neverland doesn't make people age at all. That's why Hook and Neal lived for such long periods of time (2x21-22)
9: Storybrooke is a hidden town because it resides on the coast and there is only one road going in and out. During the time when the town was in it's original curse it was an recognised town in Maine that nobody went to. This is seen when Regina adopts Henry (3x09) and says that she is the mayor of a town. Also the town was made invisable to outsiders after Owen/Kurt's Dad was killed and he was cast out, never to find to town again. But people who were related to people in the town were able to enter, like Emma and August. When the curse is broken and a magical barrier is put up around the town so no one could enter at all.
8: Yes, the ORIGINS of the storybook are unknown, but what we do know is that it's this magical source that chooses people to write down the events of a specific realm or group of realms. This is why in the Authors mansion there is thousands of blank storybooks, for the thousands of realms of stories that haven't been told yet. We know that in one of realms, the Sorceror's Apprentice was the one in charge of helping the pen find the author. Besides from that information that you did not mention, yes the origins of the storybook are unknown. BUT the book got to Mary-Margaret because it knew that she would give it Henry, enabling him to become the next author! The storybook is just a magical force that does whatever it can to find people to write down the history and stories of all the realms
7: The writers didn't think the 'superpower' was irrelevant anymore
6: Characters disappear, get over it... they explained it surely that's enough
5: How is this a plot hole? No character is all evil
4: The writers wanted another storyline in season 2 to mix things up. Not all things need an explanation when all the writers are doing are grasping at straws at story lines the audience may remember from season 1, which yes is stupid and should really be a last restort kind of storyline rather then an entire arc in only the SECOND season.
3: MsMojo bias, someone there really loves Mulan; get over it... some characters can't stay. This isn't a plot hole
2: Let's face, there are no REAL rules
1: Yeah, okay... I don't even like thinking about the abomination that was season 7.
What about all the Storybooks in the S5 finale labeled Volume II and so on. Who wrote those? Why were they in NYC? How did Neal find them. Those are actual plot wholes. Also Season 7 wasn’t that bad. I liked how they tried to make it darker than the seasons before.
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What about Will Scarlet. I know what happened to him at the end of Wonderland. But he just kind of disappeared from the regular show once upon a time. And why did they have two Cinderella’s in the show?
Blue Dragon Once in Wonderland happened after normal OUAT for Will Scarlet. That’s why he just disappeared he went back to Wonderland
@@laurenstanciel1247 no the creators said ouatiw happens during season 2 so they destroyed wills happy ending just to decide to give Outlaw Queen the screentime instead
they had two different robin hoods too.
Yes, one ok and one who was a total waste.
Cinderella 2 was from a different book
I loved season 7 and i thought it made perfect sense. And adding Alice was great. Her and Robin were adorable too. Lily was the real issue, not Ruby. They got her back in the show but Lily was barely mentioned.
Uh was Lilly? I enjoyed Robin and Alice too
@@Hogg342 lily is maleficents daughter. Lmao 2 years I forgot i even typed this
@@haileym5912 oh I forgot partly bc she was useless lol
@Hogg342 yeah I liked her in the flashback but not as an adult she was useless then and they ignored her she could've been an awesome character and they just gave her like 3 episodes and then gone
I can (partially) answer the age thing for Emma, Snow & David. In a press release for the show it said Emma was 28, the same age as her parents, because time was frozen with the curse. Henry was 11 when the curse was lifted. So you have a baseline to work with. But it's definitely hard to tell how old they were as the show kept going. Henry was kind of my constant for figuring it out, as he appeared to be about 16 near the end (even puberty messes with the laws of magic 😉).
So I would assume every started aging normally after that? Emma also had a conversation with Hook about fearing it was too late to have any more children in season 6, which would place her in her mids 30s (28 +6 = 34. Which I feel isn't way old, but in terms of her age it's a relevant comment).
Henry is aging because he was born in the real world. Please they basically mention that in the episode where theres another curse hapenning and everyone is returning to the enchanted forest.
It was explained that Cora had put up a protection barrier at the time Regina casted the curse. The protection barrier only cover a small part of the enchanted forest - therefore, the reason why some characters did not go to storybrook.
The characters that remained in the enchanted Forest when the curse hit, did so, because Cora put a protective bubble of sorts around that part of the land, to protect herself and Hook from the curse. The people who were within Cora's bubbles vicinity were spared also. Granted, none of the characters actually explained this word for word to the audience, but it was pretty obvious what had happened at the begging of season 2 when the characters remaining in the enchanted Forest are in the same place as Cora. Plus, Cora explains to hook before she creates her bubble that they will be frozen the same as the rest of the characters who were taken to Storybook, until the curse is broken, but it will seem as though no time has passed and they will remain in the enchanted Forest with their memories intact. Mulan basically tells Aurora this same thing later, after the curse had been broken and she is trying to explain what happened she pretty much says word for word what Cora had previously explained to Hook. Once Upon a Time is my favorite show if you already couldn't tell. 😉
1- Ages differ from the cursed individuals to the uncursed.
2- It’s sustained on the money/magic that was brought by the curse.
3- The book came with the curse as a fail safe for the savior but only appeared when the time was right.
4- Her superpower was clouded by her emotions/Newfound powers and the turning up and down life.
5- the actress left the show to star in another as its lead actress.
6- no one is truly evil but the choices the make and other people choices affect this trait.
7- They were shielded by Cora’s protection.
8- I agree Mulan was underutilized but with so many characters and journeys she wasn’t relevant in all of them.
9- you can’t change the past/can’t make someone REALLY love you/can’t raise the dead , unless you were super powerful, like a god.
10- like the cw show , there are many lands like the enchanted forest with their own version of the regular stories with different timelines.
Of course you have to be a really devoted fan to accept all these arguments I made 😁
I'm with you Aqeel
I agree with all of it minus point 6. Some characters were born evil, like Cruella De Vil who was always evil since childhood.
@@princeofsilence6573 Yes I agree but I think if they expanded on Cruella story we would have seen some causes of her evil demeanor
@@AqeelAmeer89 She was actually depicted as "born evil", She is a psychopath. Psychopaths are born, environment can play a role on their development, but they were born that way. "Some people struggle not to be drawn by the darkness. But ever since I was a little girl, I've Said: why not splash in and have fun?!" 4x19
@@princeofsilence6573 Got me there 👌🏼👌🏼 Thanks for the chats
For Mulan, I really wish she had gotten her own backstory. About how she became a warrior and everything! And I always suspected The Dragon who lives in New York was Mulan's father! I'm sad that they never went down that path...
It's because Cora covered a part of
the enchanted forest. That's why some people did not make it to storybook.
The reason a certain part of the enchanted forest didn’t get swept up in the curse is becoz Cora put a spell over it to protect herself, the real OUAT fans know that 😙✌️
I wanted more Mulan and Merida. 😭😭😭😭
Yay... ANOTHER VIDEO ABOUT ONCE UPON A TIME 😊😊
5:24, this is actually explained. Henry tells the Evil Queen “there’s still evil in Regina, which means there’s still good in you.”
3. Similar issue as with Ruby. A show cant tell everyone's story to the fullest. Go read some fanfiction.
Get out of my brain! I've began re-watching this series recently...
Oooof thank you for this video, just finished OUAT for the 3rd time and I'm showing withdrawal symptoms 😊
Some of these questions are a clear sign that who asked them wasn't paying attention to the plot.
Fun Fact: I did notice every plot hole that you mentioned in the video! The laws of magic in the show are murky and don’t make much sense as the series went on.
3:15, according to Neal Cassidy, she was always exaggerating when she claimed to have it.
i feel like you haven't seen enough of this show to be pointing out plot holes
Is this a plot hole though.
How do charecters travel to dun bruch or oz without anything magical
only 1 kid got older because he wasn't a part of the curse. Henry was born in our world which is why he never got hurt in any curses except season6/7.
I still miss this show! (Except season 7)
The characters ages are easy.
While the actors acted for six years (Cause S7 is too wack for us to go into), S1 thru S6 was only actually four years for Storybrooke residents. We know this because Henry is 10 in S1, and in S6, the Black Fairy mentions that he is 14.
Emma is 28 in S1, and 32 by the time she marries Hook in S6.
In S3, Emma mentions she and Snow are the same age, so we know Snow was 27 when she married Charming, 28 when she had Emma, 30 when she had Neal, and 32 by S6.
Had there been no curse, and Emma and Neal were still 30 yrs apart, she would've had Neal at 58.
We know Emma and Baby Neal are 30 yrs apart, or almost 30 yrs apart, because in S4, it mentions several times that it has been 30 yrs.
David is 30 when he marries Snow, or almost is because we've heard it said that he lived with his mom till he was 30 or almost was.
So he was probably 31 when when Emma was born, 33 when Neal was born, ( 61 without the curse), and was probably around 35 by S6.
Neal is only about 1 by S6 (but should be more like 2).
Regina is about 10 years older than Snow. Cora mentions that all the girls her age were married. Back then, girls married young. Which means she is roughly 20 when she marries Leopold. By the time Emma is born and the curse hits, she is almost in her 40s, (with out the curse, she would have been in her mid-60s by Emma's 28th b-day), she is 42 by S6.
Hook is a over 200. It's mentioned several times.
Rumple is more than 200, but less than 300, because it's mentioned he's been the Dark One for at least that long, but he met Hook before he became the DO.
Belle is, my guess, late 20s or early 30s.
Zelena is about 2-3 years older than Regina.
Robin Hood's age is never even kind of mentioned. But we can probably guess he's around Regina's age.
Roland is about 4 in S3, and about 5 when Robin dies in S5. Which means he would've been two when Marian dies, because Marian dies right around the time Snow meets Charming, and they are cursed about a year later (give or take a couple months). Plus, Roland was old enough to remember her.
Red is Snow's age.
Aurora and Phillip are roughly the same age as Snow and David.
Ashlie is nineteen when the curse hits. She is 23 by S6.
Thomas is a bit older than her.
Alexandra should technically be about 4 by S6, but only looks about 2 .
Ariel and Eric are close to Snow's and Charming's ages.
Older Neal is about 200 years old.
August is seven years older than Emma.
Lily is a few months older than Emma.
Love ouat even though it sometimes doesn't makes sense.its like a fanfiction of disney
Can we all agree that Season 7 wasn't needed?
I mean it was fine, it wasn't terrible... But it just didn't need to exist. The ending to Season 6 was so satisfying, the 7th season just felt underwhelming.
Also WHAT HAPPENED TO VIOLET? Where did Cinderella come from???
#4 was explained. Cora shielded part of the enchanted forest before the curse took place. Though that does not really explain places like Camelot and Merida's kingdom.
#6 was also explained. Ruby used a magic bean to get back to the enchanted forest. The real plot hole is where the hell these beans keep coming from.
#1 I agree with. I liked season 7, but it was probably one of the most unnecessary things ever created.
The first few made sense, but the other ones were either explained in the show or were just complaints about not seeing a character enough.
literally most of these you'd know by actually watching the show
8:51, I was waiting for that one
I still wanna know what happened to cinderellas prince in the flashback to how they imprisoned rumple before the curse. Its a small plot hole but at least they get to be together in storyvrooke
They literally explained that cora shielded part of the forest for #4
Also when asked about the curse Regina said she took who she took with her. I thought it was obvious that not all of the characters were there.
I wish Ruby and Dorothy’s relationship was expanded on. I think their personalities work well together and they look like a great couple, but their romance was rushed.
I absolutely LOVE this show!! There were some holes and yes season 7 shouldn't have happened...but still an awesome show!! On my winter list of shows to rewatch after I finish Grimm this next!
God I need to get back to watching Grimm!
Thank you i was waiting for this a long time. I always asked what happend to mulan and ruby
There were SO MANY plot holes. It’s like they just got lazy with the writing.
Like how Regina spilt Snow’s heart in half-but it had a hole in it. I can’t even remember where it went from there. But I was like “WTF? This makes no sense.”
First three seasons were great, although it went downhill after season 4 due to the fact that they used up way too many special characters that were eventually disposed
I was screaming about these plot holes the whole time I was watching this show. Sometimes I hate this thing. 😂😂
2:14, to be fair, it’s not as if fairy tales made that much economic sense either. (In a place like El Dorado, there’s no way gold would be used as currency).
Season 7 was a mess. Especially when they revealed that not only had they come back to the real world but they had come back in a different time period.
I felt like the Camelot and Brave story lines were a let down. There was so much more they could have done with it.
They did explain why some people didn't make to Storybrooke. Cora put a protection spell on that part of the realm.
Season 7 has its moments, but could not compare to the excellence of the first few seasons.
The answer to number 4 is that Cora did this spell to protect herself and Hook and that made her protect a small area of the forest as well
#5 is regina takes some of the queens evil into her own heart, wich gives the evil queen love, wich basiclaly makes 2 reginas
The creators miss lot of things on this show
your damn right about mulan she relly needed a conclution to her character arc
6:12, Cora’s spell shielded them. That’s what happened
Mulan’s story was never wrapped up !
all I know is, I didnt care about any of these things, I loved the show
I think Mulan probably deserves a spinoff series!
Most of these "plot holes" are not actually plot holes. For example, "magic can not raise the dead". The scene used as an example was showing Hook coming back from the underworld. But that wasn't magic... that was Zeus. Zeus was a god, not a wizard who used magic. Henry was the only child who aged because, unlike the other children in Storybrooke, he was born in the real world. We also see baby Neal age as well. Some people have asked why the characters of Mulan and Jefferson were not played out more. That's likely because they had no real story arc. Ruby/Red came and went because she had other contractual career obligations and again - no real story arc. Some things do bother me. For example... why did they never show Abigail/Kathrine reuniting with Frederick? They briefly bumped into each other (before the curse) in the school - he was the gym teacher - and when he found her car on the side of the road when she tried to leave. But there was not closure there. We never saw him again. We saw her briefly in a diner scene seasons later after the curse was broken, but not with him. Same with Aurora, who ended up in Storybrooke after the second curse and she was also shown in a diner scene, but without Philip. We never saw him again either. And whatever happened to Lily and Malificent? The last we saw of Lily, she was going to stay in Storybrooke to try to find her father... but then disappeared, as did Malificent. As to Season #7.... that was completely nonsensical and unnecessary.
Omg neal and hook are my absolute favourites , they hold such a special place in my heart I literally cried so much when they got hurt or died :(
number 4, it was cora who cast a protection spell that bubbled that part of the enchanted forest. They were frozen in time as well over there until Emma came to storybrook
I always assumed Emma was bluffing when she talked about her superpower
#2 You can’t resurrect the dead unless you’re Zeus (he resurrected Killian) or the author alive in the underworld or you're trying to bring back a dark one then you have to trade your life for theirs
I used to be obsessed when I was in middle/high school. But that last season, I dipped out. 😅 Maybe someday I’ll finish it, but I really don’t feel the need - for many of the reasons kindly illustrated in this video
There are so many actual plotholes that some of these being included make no sense
Here's a long time OUAT fan's thoughts on that last one on the Laws of Magic: Rumple needed Regina to cast her curse so it's possible he just told her it wasn't possible to bring Daniel back to manipulate her towards his desired path. And Killian was brought back by a god which is ehhh but beyond the Laws of Magic, I suppose?
The Once Upon a Time in Wonderland spinoff also punched a hole in the "Laws of Magic are unbreakable and the dead can't be resurrected" lore, which also makes me think Rumple was just straight up lying to Regina.
Or, you know, the writers didn't feel like sticking to their own rules. Who knows.
I wish I could watch this but I have only just started re-watching this series.
They were all frozen in time women. Snow White and charming are the same age as Emma since it gets mentioned. Regina is 18 years older because Snow White was 10 when Regina was 28 (mentioned in season 1) so at the beginning of the show she’s 46. Hook and Rumpelstiltskin are hundreds of years old. Around the same age since they crossed paths early in their life stream but rumple is probably 15-20 years older. Neil/ Baelfire is obviously in his hundreds by using the fact he met the darlings almost straight after being abandoned. You can assume he’s around 254 years old since he was 14 when he left the enchanted forest as that’s the whole reason rumple becomes the dark one. To protect his son from joining the army and it’s just after baelfires 14th birthday he gets abandoned. Henry’s age is constantly mentioned and ruby is around the same age as Emma, Snow, and Charming as they were all friends in the enchanted forest and out. Aurora and Cinderella are a little bit younger but only by 2-5 years as Snow and Emma act as friends and mentors to those two characters. They didn’t realise Henry was getting older because they were under a CURSE!!!
Amy Potts I think I remember that Ashley was 19 and pregnant in season 1, she and Emma bonded over her decision on what to do after the baby was born, I don’t know if that meant Cinderella too was 19.
Regina was 18 when Snow was 10. That's a huge reason why she reacted so irrationally about what happened to Daniel. She was still a teenager.
Amazing I love once a upon a time I stop watching after season 6 just like arrow season 6 stop watching after that. Fantastic job on the video ms mojo
Yeah that first one always puzzled me
I absolutely love Once Upon a Time, but season 7 is not what I wanted. I’d rather it focus on the lives of the fairy tale characters and have Henry as a side plot. Or Henry to represent the audience and explore and interact with them and their stories.
#4 was explained in the show already. Cora put a shield up when she knew it was coming.
#4 was answered, not a plot hole
And Season 7 was a MISTAKE!!
The question about Regina’s curse was answered because when both David and Whale asked her she said that the curse only brought the people that she wanted it too.
The thing about the cursed characters making money and getting things from the outside is that they dont. we don't know exactly how it works but its magic, some way or somehow it replenishes itself - its like saying how do none of the characters question why they don't remeber their whole livesl, its the curse, the curse is storybrooke so therefore the curse sustains it