We are a UK manufacturer of large plastic pipes for the construction industry. The purpose of the robotic milling cutter was to improve our quality and efficiency, thus safeguarding skilled manufacturing jobs in UK. I, along with all my colleagues are proud to be a British manufacturing company but at the same time, we recognise that we must collaborate with the right people. In this case it was Markus Theobold and his team at Riexinger in Germany, a partnership that will continue to thrive despite Brexit.
Anyone know why they are only partially cutting out those holes? are they there for stability during transport and finished on site at the final location?
I would assume it's just so that the chunks don't fall out and onto the robots and tooling potentially causing damage. We do the same thing at the shop where i work although on a smaller scale.
It is so it does not break when it's about to finish. When it moves the cutter could make it quite a mess and even dangerous or kicking back onto the cutter
Hello and thank you for the project presentation. You did a great job. I have just one question: Why did you employ a high accuracy (HA series) robot while the product itself does not demand such a precision. We know that HA robots are much more expensive than normal ones. Thank you.
Probably cause engineering company has different projects and some might require HA series precision, while its not bad thing to have in less precision requiring projects. Also its cheaper on the long run to get best of the line, than upgrade later. Its all about production capability, cause that way you get more customers and revenue
Because the people who combined the different parts of our system were not interested in how productive it was. Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software too.
Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software.
Almost anything is possible. Whether you'd want laser cutting for an application or not depends on what sort of application you're doing. The KUKA sales teams take great care with customers to match the automation set-up with the customer's requirements.
Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software.
UK is losing a lot of manufacturing to other countries. We don't make cars anymore . We don't make aircraft anymore. We don't make trains anymore. We don't make ships anymore. And now we import robots from Germany. It's embarrassing. We should be making our own robots with all the smart graduates that we churn out of our universities every year.
Oh wow, brits can see reality.. Protip - you import so much more than robots from germany, japan, korea etc. The problem is with the general british superiority complex your people didn't (want to) see how technology was advancing in other countries. Thats how you lost most of your industry and ability to compete on the market. And now you think by locking off and having brexit it will be better, but you do even more of the thing that brought you into the situation in the first place - ignoring. And your education system will not really be able to do what you proposed. But of course it doesen't need any improvement (especially not by looking at how other countries do it) because britain is great and there is no better way to do than the british. You wanted to be the huffy special snowflake, but for outsiders its just funny to see all industry being handed over by becoming obsolete through arrogance in development. But of course its only the EU and bad politicians who are to blame.
New Train factory in the UK : www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/hitachi/ Airbus' facilities in the UK : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Aerospace#Facilities Cars still made in the UK : www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/27/nissan-to-make-new-qashqai-and-x-trail-models-in-britain There you go you fear-mongering piece of shit...
to be fair most of what you'd call heavy industry is operated by companies based in 4-6 countries, so almost every country is a situation where most of their big companies are foreign owned.
German Industry is to a large part owned by german stakeholders. And the people who have work there are paying into the domestic market. Jobs for everyone are in industry, not in banks but thats what makes the UK economy look so good - lots of money earned by a few. Stick to your elite universities, attended by the brightest (rhich parents) students
Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software.
@@KUKARobotGroup You have helped us more than almost anyone else since we took over the company- but the fact is that your robot can only do what it’s told. This is a system that relies on different components and the Robotmaster software is horrendous. I can confirm that since 2016 when it was first installed, this robot has worked less than 1000 hours in total. All because creating new tool paths is so time consuming, problematic, unreliable and costly. If you have any influence over those who consider this acceptable, please explain this to them. We need to expand and grow- and we are only doing that by not using this equipment.
In my experience it's the same problem with all industrial robots, by and large the software suites are outdated crap no matter which robot manufacturer you look at. Manufacturers are not much of software companies and before the sale the customers look at the robot, not the software behind it which must ultimately make it do something useful. I don't think it's ever going to get fixed as long as each robot manufacturer sticks to their own custom software and worse - custom programming languages. The solution must to come from outside expertise specializing in software, not the hardware manufacturers, sort of like what RobotDK is doing, only who the hell wants to pay such license cost extra on top of what they already paid for the robot? Maybe one day open source will come to rescue, but it's a colossal amount of work to develop any sort of CAM/CAD type thing that's actually up to snuff. FreeCAD has been in development for what, 20 years and counting? It's not ready yet in any case.
We are a UK manufacturer of large plastic pipes for the construction industry. The purpose of the robotic milling cutter was to improve our quality and efficiency, thus safeguarding skilled manufacturing jobs in UK. I, along with all my colleagues are proud to be a British manufacturing company but at the same time, we recognise that we must collaborate with the right people. In this case it was Markus Theobold and his team at Riexinger in Germany, a partnership that will continue to thrive despite Brexit.
So many talent engineer were in here.
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You don’t need precision at all, this application is fine
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Use robot to cut a circle !! Using diameter adjustable ruler with central drill can do this job . Simple way is a good choice .
Anyone know why they are only partially cutting out those holes? are they there for stability during transport and finished on site at the final location?
I would assume it's just so that the chunks don't fall out and onto the robots and tooling potentially causing damage. We do the same thing at the shop where i work although on a smaller scale.
See work of any cutter - they dont fully cut of detail if detail have not quality fixation.
It is so it does not break when it's about to finish. When it moves the cutter could make it quite a mess and even dangerous or kicking back onto the cutter
How accurate is the machining? And how do you get such high gear reductions from the motor to the joint?
Chad Krause as far as i know these robots are pretty accurate (+-0,01 mm)
The gear reduction is mainly achieved by planetary gears
@@lfthkn accurate to 0.01mm or repeatable to 0.01mm. There is a difference
@@rileyogilvie8610 I know, i meant repeatable to 0.01mm, sorry
Great job!
Hey, the guy running the robot? Is that Clint Barton from the Avengers?
Hello and thank you for the project presentation. You did a great job.
I have just one question:
Why did you employ a high accuracy (HA series) robot while the product itself does not demand such a precision. We know that HA robots are much more expensive than normal ones.
Thank you.
Probably cause engineering company has different projects and some might require HA series precision, while its not bad thing to have in less precision requiring projects. Also its cheaper on the long run to get best of the line, than upgrade later. Its all about production capability, cause that way you get more customers and revenue
Why not use a double flute upcut spiral to plunge in and make the cutout? Seems like it would be much faster instead of doing it layer by layer.
The robot can't handle to force of that and stay within tolerance
Because the people who combined the different parts of our system were not interested in how productive it was. Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software too.
Whats the price? :D
Wow great one
How can I get contact to company?
Contact information for all KUKA offices is listed here: www.kuka.com/en-de/about-kuka/kuka-locations#all
Dear sir,
Would you like to tell me which Software do you use to design KuKa Robots? Thank you so much!
You did a good job!
Best Regards,
Robotmaster software was used for this part and project. www.robotmaster.com
Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software.
What tools did they use on the video?
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Could these be laser cut using the robot?
Almost anything is possible. Whether you'd want laser cutting for an application or not depends on what sort of application you're doing. The KUKA sales teams take great care with customers to match the automation set-up with the customer's requirements.
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Serious over kill, try a Sawzall Never did say why you need aerospace tolerances for sewerage pipe!
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Which CAD software is this?
Inventor
Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software.
@@Krzys_D no it isn’t. We use Solidworks which interfaces with Robotmaster to allegedly create tool paths. It’s very problematic and time consuming.
use RoBOT Support RoBOT
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It's called Competition
UK is losing a lot of manufacturing to other countries. We don't make cars anymore . We don't make aircraft anymore. We don't make trains anymore. We don't make ships anymore. And now we import robots from Germany. It's embarrassing. We should be making our own robots with all the smart graduates that we churn out of our universities every year.
Oh wow, brits can see reality.. Protip - you import so much more than robots from germany, japan, korea etc. The problem is with the general british superiority complex your people didn't (want to) see how technology was advancing in other countries. Thats how you lost most of your industry and ability to compete on the market. And now you think by locking off and having brexit it will be better, but you do even more of the thing that brought you into the situation in the first place - ignoring. And your education system will not really be able to do what you proposed. But of course it doesen't need any improvement (especially not by looking at how other countries do it) because britain is great and there is no better way to do than the british.
You wanted to be the huffy special snowflake, but for outsiders its just funny to see all industry being handed over by becoming obsolete through arrogance in development.
But of course its only the EU and bad politicians who are to blame.
New Train factory in the UK : www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/hitachi/
Airbus' facilities in the UK : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Aerospace#Facilities
Cars still made in the UK : www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/27/nissan-to-make-new-qashqai-and-x-trail-models-in-britain
There you go you fear-mongering piece of shit...
Theodor Butters yes but none of this is British owned
to be fair most of what you'd call heavy industry is operated by companies based in 4-6 countries, so almost every country is a situation where most of their big companies are foreign owned.
German Industry is to a large part owned by german stakeholders. And the people who have work there are paying into the domestic market. Jobs for everyone are in industry, not in banks but thats what makes the UK economy look so good - lots of money earned by a few. Stick to your elite universities, attended by the brightest (rhich parents) students
Speaking from first hand experience of this exact system, it is a gimmick. It was a huge waste of money. A major weak link in the system is the Robotmaster software.
Thanks for the input and feedback! Working to improve.
@@KUKARobotGroup You have helped us more than almost anyone else since we took over the company- but the fact is that your robot can only do what it’s told. This is a system that relies on different components and the Robotmaster software is horrendous. I can confirm that since 2016 when it was first installed, this robot has worked less than 1000 hours in total. All because creating new tool paths is so time consuming, problematic, unreliable and costly. If you have any influence over those who consider this acceptable, please explain this to them. We need to expand and grow- and we are only doing that by not using this equipment.
In my experience it's the same problem with all industrial robots, by and large the software suites are outdated crap no matter which robot manufacturer you look at. Manufacturers are not much of software companies and before the sale the customers look at the robot, not the software behind it which must ultimately make it do something useful.
I don't think it's ever going to get fixed as long as each robot manufacturer sticks to their own custom software and worse - custom programming languages.
The solution must to come from outside expertise specializing in software, not the hardware manufacturers, sort of like what RobotDK is doing, only who the hell wants to pay such license cost extra on top of what they already paid for the robot? Maybe one day open source will come to rescue, but it's a colossal amount of work to develop any sort of CAM/CAD type thing that's actually up to snuff. FreeCAD has been in development for what, 20 years and counting? It's not ready yet in any case.