Why Are Gaming Laptops So Expensive?
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Why are gaming laptops so much more expensive than similarly-configured desktop gaming rigs - and will this change in the future?
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Hi, the reason is because companies like having high margins. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
hello, i like money
@@simpleneeds2582🦀
Didn't watch the video, huh?
Low quantities might require higher margins.
@@cgraham6and you're really drinkin the koolaid. More than one thing can be true simultaneously.
Theyre so fucking expensive but retain little to no re-sale value 😭
They don't? Why not?
@@DavidKen878 it's probably the lack of upgradeability and the components likely being cooked from poor cooling, that could itself be from bad design or dust buildup
@@terasestHammasratas I had no idea you couldn't upgrade gaming laptops. Price aside, why would anyone who games on PC buy a gaming computer they can't upgrade lol
@@DavidKen878 Very hard, because most laptops nowadays come with all components soldered on the motherboard, including SSD, GPU and, in some cases, battery, to save space.
@@morenauer And to decrease the weight I bet. I was on Amazon earlier and saw an Alienware laptop that weighs almost 19lbs.
Electronics engineer here. The difference in price between a 6 layer and 8 layers pcb is basically zero. Besides, 6 layer stackup is more expensive than a 8 layer with low volumes, it is less standard.
Kind of wish they do denser PCBs, Like 20 layers. Denser tracers will probably reduce the fiberglass cost.
@@AndrewMellor-darkphoton 20 layers can be difficult to manufacture. Once my colleague made a 24 layers pcb, the yield was like 50%, each time some via was not working due to misalignment.
Of course, more layers are always better for the designer because you have more space to route all the signals, but going above 16 layers is always a stretch
Gaming Laptops should have the look, feel, and battery life of an urban ghettoblaster, with 3.5mm audio jacks
If it doesn't have an integrated rocket launcher, i'm not interested.
Absolutely!
Hell yeah, make them 10cm thick
They weigh like ghettoblaster anyways so yeah
It’s almost a better deal to build a SFF desktop and pay someone to haul around it and the peripherals.
Yeah, can we talk about how 2.5 Gb was only introduced because 10 Gb switches showed no sign of ever becoming affordable and now 2.5 Gb switches are still stupid expensive? What's up with that?
Stop making them so damn thin then
😂
Totally agree.
I think that if you want thin, get a MacBook. I think we should not associate gaming laptops with sleekness, that only rises prices when it doesn't have to.
What is this? Luxury brand with incredible Apple Tax?
High-end gaming laptops are not thin at all, they're thick and heavy.
@@JackD0ff If anything, they should be.
Heavily agree, there's no technology existed that can make really great gaming laptops without it overheating. Which a lot of people do not understand with the technology these days should always prioritize cooling over thin laptops.
"Gaming laptops are expensive because the internal components are expensive" wow who would have thought.
What about shit like dell XPS that doesn't have specs as good as gaming laptop and is even more expensive?
@@tiltedbybox6118 you pay for the name like apple
@@tiltedbybox6118 Dell is mostly for the business things like actually useful support, and preset systems to save you enabling PXE Boot and writing down hardware IDs for thousands of machines.
@@tiltedbybox6118a gaming laptop has shittier screen, lower resolution and worse panel. Most gaming laptops have worse build quality (plastic usually). I wouldn't say dell xps is shit, but it's hella expensive
They have other premium parts like glass trackpads, amoled 4k screens, and other more productivity oriented features gamers forget they aren't the only people who exist in the computing space@@tiltedbybox6118
A: Sir, why is new Asus G14 so expensive ?
B: Um... copper got more expensive... and um.... we have to figure out how to fit stuff inside same laptop every year...
Not to mention that we have to copy Apple any way we can and make it as anti-consumer and disposable as possible, or else we wouldn't have a market next year.
@@ade9597How is Apple anti-consumer?
@@DavidKen878 pff
It's not that they have to figure out how to fit the stuff, it's that they have to manufacture these pieces to fit inside the small spaces. It's just more manufacturing time and money.
@@DavidKen878 Hah, good one.
It really seems like we are possibly headed for a PC gaming crisis. Many people are still running 3 generation old GPUs, and getting any kind of future proofed 40 or 50 series is going to be out of reach for many folks. Couple that with the fact that the minimum PC specs of games already feel like a downright lie and the chance for many folks to simply be priced out of the market is real.
triple A gaming is almost dead too lmao
@@mikksaia8373 Yeah time for quad A game😂😂
The solution that I favor is to to move away from AAA and towards AA. If you don't need the processing power to render the shadows bouncing off of your shoelaces, then you could just keep using your 1080ti forever. As an additional upside, games wouldn't be 9 million terabytes in three years time. I picked up Final Fantasy XIII again recently and it still looks great. I'd be happy with capping games at that level of detail. Heck, most of the games that I play don't even reach that quality, since I play a lot of indie titles.
Steamdeck and its competitors killed gaming laptops for me, the required compatibility for modern games also helped the industry stop chasing top end spec for every release
Yep. I am just waiting for someone to finally figure out that they should re-package Steam Deck & similar hand helds into 2-in-1 13 inch laptop. Whoever does it 1st and offers it for similar cash wins the game.
Look, ever since drivers got standardized and you no longer needed to have the correct graphics card or else half your games were unplayable, I think that it's way easier to keep a computer for longer and still get modern games to work. Drivers are that standardized that Steamdeck can run the same stuff as a potato netbook and a 5000 buck laptop. Now, the performance difference between those is a deal for some, but as long as it's not a potato netbook, it can play games well.
@@Tommy_The_Gun7840U laptops are basically ROG Allies and the like.
@@Tommy_The_Gunyou mean like the Asus ROG Z13 & X13 Flow series, which exists for years now?
@anonymouschicken20 I may have a different experience I own a 5000 pc 2000 latop and a steamdeck my pc destroys the other two and I can play helldivers with good settings on the laptop but it run poorly on the steamdeck and my friend with an legion go can't play helldivers without an egpu as it very bad without one.
0:54 - no, we do not demand ever higher performance. Its the horrible software development from greedy companies that actually does.
Amen! If the highest performance ceiling for a consumer PC would be a Core 2 Quad for 20 years for example, we would still get amazing software, great UI and advancements overall. Why make my software more efficient when total performance goes up and I can “take advantage” of it?
They’ll get their rude awakening when current silicon chips can’t go any further without huge power consumption and until the next big thing to replace silicon comes around to keep their ineficient garbage code on PCs.
"We do not need to optimize shit just buy a 4090 and 1 TB of storage for a single application"
I still can't believe Todd Howard actually said "Just buy better PCs for our shitty game" in an interview, mild paraphrasing
Pricey or not, I still find it odd to game at home on Laptops.
It's like playing a shooter game with a dare I say it ...a controller.
If you're in a place in your life where you expect moving places soon or every two years, yet still need the performance for what you do. Gaming laptops is not a bad idea
To be honest? I get it.
I think a lot of people who get a gaming laptop, get them mostly because it is what best suits their needs.
From students who live in dorms, who want to game, but also might go to a friend's place and do some LAN action? Having a single device that is portable that does your school work, and your gaming, can make sense to some.
Some truckers might make use of a gaming laptop, because they are literally on the road and moving around constantly. Can use it in a hotel, in their sleeper cab, at a cafe, wherever they need to.
I personally live in a camping trailer, and it makes a hell of a lot more sense to use a laptop, than to build a tower. For one, if I start driving down a gravel road? Pretty sure my laptop will handle the vibrations and impacts better than a tower will.
Now, for people who only use a gaming laptop, at home, never go anywhere with it? Okay, yeah, that is weird.
You jest but with games like Apex Legends it's better to play controller
Not really I do it’s the best desktops suck they are huge and if the power goes out have fun with broken files laptops keep on trucking and can be unplugged and carried to another desk with one hand hooked back up without even powering down then when you go somewhere on a trip you have your entire setup with you no redownloading and trying to cloud backup saves when you get there to try and continue where you left off at home sells show it laptops outsell desktops like 8 to 1 and with efficiency getting better every year the days of desktops are numbered they will die eventually
Yeah I got my legion 7i because I was living out of hotels alot. Then got laid off lol. So now I game at home on a laptop
Because it's a meme.
Buying a $2000+ gaming laptop to play $70 live-service games at medium settings and FHD or 2K resolution at 70-100FPS? It's all a giant waste of money and time.
Ppl can play AAA titles on high settings with a 4060 laptop on a freaking 3k OLED screen (Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14) so that was a pretty bad hyperbole
This is the part where you start to question whether you should change your hobby
@@mcslender2965 How does that change the fact that playing all videogames is a waste of time and your hard-earned money, and especially playing AAA or live service grindfests, let alone eSports titles? I've realized that none of this matters in the end, and I'd much rather spend my time with God instead of slaving away at a higher-paying job, only to then get myself a false opioid like modern videogames to cope with the hardships of working at such a job.
There are plenty of fantastic videogames that can run on a used $200 ThinkPad. Not that you would want to play them anyway, because they're still a waste of time. Who says you have to spend more, if all modern videogames that require powerful hardware are trash?
@@rizones2286 I sure did. I really thought I need to play videogames because I want it, when it was actually forced onto me by a zeitgeist (demons). Now they're hitting back at us, having sucked us in with this meme. How does it feel that all your new videogames you were told to be excited for are vetted by Sweet Baby? Not even pirating them is worth it.
All of this comes to pass, and when you grow old - you'll realize that all these videogames or any other hobby that takes up your entire life and ruins your family one way or another (like being unable to have children) is all for nothing. This is why I sold my powerful laptop (with a Radeon 680M iGPU) and my gaming console and don't look back, remembering Lot's wife.
@@one_step_sideways I kind of had different story, I ended up taking different poison instead because ever since my laptops broke and can't game, I ended up still procrastinating and wasting time with different things. All my friends are already moving on and I don't wanna make new friends knowing that they will eventually move on to something else. Right now I'm stuck with phone scrolling endlessly.
Besides, you can't just rely your entertainment on one medium like your dear life is depends on it, take that away someone would get insane for sure, not everyone know this.
And also someone already did the math on how much likely you are gonna buy new technology (PC parts and Phone) that will last, and it's per 7 years. So everything they buying is just a "prototype". You can't force yourself to buy something new everyday if you are not actually rich but people still ended up getting in debt because of it then make video essays trying to justify their purchases but when you actually at the comparison, Intel CPU for example, there is barely improvements each year.
Let me know if there is something I need to know.
Super high end flagship models are definitely expensive but can be much more affordable used as their value seems to plummet after the new model comes out. Mid range one too well they start out cheaper they become even more avoidable as they become the last generation or even just used as open box. The biggest thing that I’ve noticed is business class PCs like a new latitude 7000 or 9000 series or even a new Thinkpad X1 Carbon, can be between $2000-$3000 with NO GPU. Now that is insanity and makes gaming laptops much cheaper and faster by comparison.
There was a 6-year chunk of my life where I needed to be able to pack up and move in less than 15 minutes, so I fully appreciate having a mobile gaming computer. I still use my 8-year-old Asus thiccboi G752 because a 1070 still runs most of the games I play. But nowadays I just put wheels on my tower, problem solved.
I mean, why the wheels. You're not actually rolling a tower when it has a GPU and other sensitive parts right? Especially if it has tempered glass
@@halo2bounceguyThey’re sensitive but rolling it around won’t kill it lol
i don't think an extra oz of copper is majorly contributing to the 6000 dollar price tag
Gaming laptops were only $1000-1500 a few years ago tho
That's probably how much my 10-year-old 17-inch nVidia 840M laptop cost. It's a Lenovo IdeaPad.
Mid-tier gaming laptops maybe, and they cost the same today. High end gaming laptops have always cost a lot, 3-5k, for many many years.
4070 laptop is overpriced with 8GB VRAM, 4080 laptop is barely better than a 4070 desktop chip wise, 4090 laptop is just hilariously far behind the 4090 desktop. It is indeed inflated
If you're buying your first gaming laptop, the 4060 laptop can actually be pretty good value though. But if you own an RTX 3000 laptop, it's just hard to justify this generation
@@bluesharpie9744I started with a 3070ti laptop, should have had 12gb vram instead of 8...
My MSI GTX 1070 laptop from 2018 was about €1100 and that was decently expensive only 6 years ago.
I'm sticking to Ryzen iGPU laptops these days since they pretty much play what I want to play, don't use a lot of power and are a lot more silent & affordable.
In my experience so far, desktops are way better for gaming due to better heat management. Also I have significantly wide options of up-gradability.
Used to prefer laptops because of portability and relatively close performance to desktops back then until.... I have deeper needs to my specifications of gaming and virtualisations which many laptops no longer have.
After 2 weeks of research I found the cheapest laptop was Lenovo. For 1500 I got a 4070, 600 nits display 240 HZ, 12 core i5 intell. I really couldn't find anything cheaper anywhere else and where I could find something in the same price they're using two generational equipment.
Lenovo ususlly has best prices for what you get. Although their models feel kinda cheap sometimes
which model is it?
@@AlamoOriginal Legion Pro 5i Gen 8 Intel (16") with RTX™ 4070
Part Number: 82WK0046US
@AlamoOriginal though it was a i7 actually i5 lol, still probably won't make much of a difference for gaming
@@Valkires1probably something like a 13600
marketing core count doesn’t exactly work when the p cores and e cores are combined
I managed to get a new msi titan gt77hx with a 4090 for 3500 dollars and i waited almost 1 year to get such a deal and i managed to get the last one in stock because of how fast they sold for that deal. In EU that model cost 2000 dollars more on launch than in the US. So around 7000 dollars on launch for the highest specs with ram and gpu. Now they are basically none existant to find due to a newer model launch recently even tho there is only a 2% performance difference between the two out of the box. And i overclocked it and undervolted it to a lvl the new model cant even reach due to its worse thermals and smaller size. And yet they sell the newer model for even more on launch date than the previous model.
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Some of this probably also doubles for why high end smartphones have... high-y prices.
...although last i checked most laptops werent doing the whole SOC thing, but have dedicated components.
Doesn't explain why it's so hard to find a decent office laptop that isn't >1k
What's an office laptop? I'm still using my laptop from 2014 which was over $1k, but now an equivalent laptop can probably not be bought anymore. Basically any $300 laptop has to be better I guess.
Loving my 2023 Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080 ❤
Mobile 4080*
Would this be the same for laptops for content creation (video and photo editing for instance)
"gaming laptop" is very basically just a marketing term for "high end laptop" so yes, tho for video and photo editing, any decent computer should be able to handle these workloads just fine, especially if you don't professionally edit
Great video 🙂
Dell Outlet store often has pretty damn good deals on gaming laptops. 😉
3:12 my Magnesium alloy chassis Dell from the laptop intel 3rd gen period didn't cost close to as much as the modern stuff.... (It is kind of unpractical to have my bag be 15kg heavier tho)
I bought one of those Titan Evo SL chairs from one of the LMG ads and I absolutely do not recommend it. One of the most uncomfortable chairs I have ever owned. And the reason is simply that it's hard. It's just really goddamn hard. Especially the base - feels like my ass is sitting on hardwood. And I am writing this after 8 months of use, so if the material's stiffness was just from it being new, it would have already softened up by now. Yes, the build quality is what you'd expect from a €900 chair, it's really solid and feels like it'll last for 10 years, but I honestly don't want it to because it's just so uncomfortable. I suppose you could buy some cushion or something, but like my 15 year old Ikea office chair for €450 did not need anything to feel comfortable when I bought it. Sure it was not so adjustable, but neither did it need to be.
I can just say that I'm happy with my mid-range gaming laptop: A Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14'', which I got for relatively cheap. I'd never be willing to pay for a high-end gaming laptop though. What's even the point? You could easily build yourself a top-of-the-line desktop gaming PC for that price and still have some money left over.
4:48 thats basically a segway to using Moonlight to make your own cloud gaming server.
The paradox here is that gaming laptops also got way cheaper. I mean you can get "a budget" Gaming laptop with mid-range specs really cheap nowadays and it will on average outclass PC cost wise & in power consumption. There is also Steam Deck & other hand held PCs on top of that, so "PC Gaming" hasn't ever been this cheap & accessible.
On the flip side you have 4K 120FPS gaming PCs that take as much power as a power plant will produce and cost around as much as new car. You also have laptops that are way overpriced, but it is an option if you have $. All you are really getting is just 4K vs 1080P which imho is not worth spending 600% more cash, but again, it is all subjective
PC gaming has never ever been this divided...
I was actually surprised how cheap they have become. Just upgraded from a desktop with RX570 and Ryzen 7 2700X to a laptop with 3070ti and 6800H and I don´t regret it the slightest bit. Got it for 700 Eur and it´s such a massive upgrade. 165 HZ screen too.
700 for that sounds like a sweet deal! enjoy it man :D
I bought my Legion 5i with RTX 3060/12700H in 2022 for about 1800$. That was two years ago and prices of computer hardware in my country is a lot higher than most places but you definitely got yours for a very good price
3070 Ti + 6800H or 3070 Ti + 12700H combos are still VERY good for gaming. I'm pretty happy with my full 140w 3060 + 12700H combo. Gets the job done surprisingly well for a lot of modern titles at 1440p. It's only the VRAM that's the issue
As a gaming laptop enthusiast. I wanted to shift to a desktop PC. But I travel a lot and i like to game wherever I go so I am in this vicious cycle of buying expensive gaming laptops. I have seen the laptop evolve and the technology is amazing, it's just the price is bad. Lol.
You forgot the part where they keep cramming stuff in these things that nobody actually needs but everybody THINKS they need. Therefore, people keep buying them and until they stop "innovating" with useless specs that everybody drools over without even knowing why, they won't drop in price. Sure, there's the portability factor, but how often are people actually unplugging? If they do, it's not for very long because battery life seems to be the one thing nobody can "innovate" lol.
I can run light tasks on my last 2 laptops for over 7hrs; both are using AMD Ryzen CPUs. Are you an Intel user or sth
@@mcslender2965 I'm talking about gaming, not light tasks.
@@BradlyFC If you need gaming while being unplugged handhelds are better. The sad thing is that discrete GPUs are always going to need more power thus shortening battery life, at least unless AMD Strix Halo delivered. Macs do get better efficiency running graphics tasks but dont expect 6+ hrs of med/intensive gaming on battery assuming you can even find games for it to run normally
@@mcslender2965 yeah that's my point, handhelds are better for a fraction of the cost and don't need all the crazy stuff they put into these insanely over priced laptops lol.
@@BradlyFC 1. I prefer MnK over controllers
2. I like larger screens and want higher graphics settings
3. I need a laptop anyway
4. Higher end handhelds cost as much as entry lvl gaming laptops and is weaker.
How about a video about ethernet over coax / MoCa, I think that could be kinda interesting!
What about stuff like dell xps that's also super expensive and the specs are a joke compared to a gaming laptop for half the price? At this point might as well buy a macbook.
a macbook ... for gaming
@@kouhaiii3182They're shockingly pretty competent with Wine/Crossover.
Apple Arcade also has some gems. XCloud via Greenlight also ain't bad.
...That said, unless you like Apple's ecosystem and also do a lot of creative stuff, a Steam Deck is the better option if non-Windows is your goal.
@@kouhaiii3182 you didn't get it. I'm talking about dell xps.
@@tiltedbybox6118 what then is the point of comparing it to a macbook
@@kouhaiii3182 because it's competing against the MacBook. It's supposed to be a productivity laptop, but the specs are quite weak, especially the gpu for that price. Maybe pricing is better in America, but here, it's not.
Nah, you guys completely blew one of your points. Based on your logic 10Gb should be cheaper than 2.5Gb as 10Gb has been around for almost 2 decades. It makes zero sense why anything over 1Gb is ridiculously expensive. 10Gb is for business which is why there's a premium price tag but even then, charging more because an entity makes more is mind numbingly dumb. You aren't sticking it to the man, you're sticking it to the employees.
Would you cover the topic "Temporary Internet Files" when Internet Explorer days when loading is pretty much instantly, how does it fare with today's cache-based browsers?
You could make an incredibly similar video about the increase in housing prices.
I think my Acer Triton 14 was a pretty reasonable deal at $1200 with a 4070 and high refresh display. It compromises on the brand name, USB-PD, and the battery, but they're certainly not deal breakers.
Low volumes also increase prize.
I've actually found that on the lower-mid to low end it's actually cheaper for a laptop than a desktop because a keyboard, mouse, and monitor are built in to the cost of a laptop while even the cheapest desktop has to have those purchased separately (even "All in ones" need a separate keyboard and mouse). Unless you are willing to put in a lot more effort than me looking for decent used ones or shopping around for the lowest possible price (and tolerate shipping times measured in months).
A keyboard is like ten dollars...
The important thing is the display, you want to see clearly and not feel blind. But cheap gaming laptops tend to have horrible screens.
James’s voice puts me in heaven ❤
it because everything is inflating around us while our paycheck doesn't and never will sadly
most of them thermal throttle out the box and you have to under volt them i would never get a gaming laptop again
That's simply not true.
@@antalpoti it really is
@@BobaPhettaminemaybe in 2010...
@@sonicandroxas nope now lol
@@sonicandroxas mines only a couple years old thermal throttled out the box ive re pasted it with better paste still thermal throttles
I'm sitting on an older SecretLab Titan chair. Why is the cold cure foam's patent still pending? The patent office is so slow. 😆 By the way, it's ripped to shreds, but the newer chairs should have longer lasting fake leather. Although to be honest, spending an extra $400 for real leather may be worth it since that NEVER breaks. I got my parents' old leather couch and besides a few scratches, it doesn't have any peeling leather since it's real leather.
The more important thing is why are the manufacturers sometimes so dumb when decideing on the specs. I have an asus laptop with 144Hz and a 3050 laptop.
gotta say the screen on my rog g18 is freaking awesome.
I dont think the laptop is over priced.
That said i dont want a gpu near as good as a 4080 but buying a 18" laptop with an i9 and a basic non gaming gpu is kinda impossible.
3:57 What's even more expensive is having to buy a new $5000 laptop every 2 years because of burn-in. Very fun. I can buy an OLED monitor, but I'm actively choosing a mini-LED LCD monitor for the same price because I want to display the same thing on the screen for 12 hours a day without worrying about burn-in. OLED is for rich people.
It pisses me off that during times when supply is low the prices go up but when the supply is back the prices stay the same. This harms everyone except the sellers
Thanks to a friend who builds his PC with off the shelf parts, about 20 years ago I gave up on laptops for gaming. Also, laptops are horrible for widescreen and multi-monitor stuff.
i watched this phenomenon myself. Not that long ago, circa 2008, a mid range laptop with dedicated GPU, perfectly capable or running most games of that era, cost around 800€. The difference was that the whole "gaming" marketing ploy was not a thing at all. And then the "gaming" label kicked in. Laptops became ever more ridiculously looking, and prices immediately started spiking. From this point, any laptop that had a dedicated GPU was already considered "gaming" regardless if I was a gtx950 or a 980. A similarly specced laptop to the 800€ one, now cost 1200 - 1500€.
Mind you, there have been "gaming" laptops for much longer, but this label was usually reserved to the top of the line one with insane speccs as well. So I don't have that much of a problem with those. Like, if you wanna buy a dual GTX980 + an top of the line i7 on a 17+ screen, obviously your going to pay a premium...
I got an ASUS Vivobook with OLED, AMD Ryzen 7000, and a good gaming performance with dual vents for almost a 1000 bucks. Honestly, we don't need "gaming" labels to have a genuinely good laptop experience.
HECK: my home laptop (the above is for productivity and stuff) is a 10-year-old Lenovo IdeaPad with quad-core eight-threaded intel i7 that has lasted me a long time playing games just fine.
I think if you're not a performance gamer who needs the FPS to win an eSports match, you don't need more than 1500 bucks and the age of an infant to play a fun game.
GPU?
@@frf5000 nVidia 840M + an internal chipset for the old laptop. The new one has like internal radeon graphics but those sound less interesting I guess to me.
Seen 4060 ones with 12400h for 799, 1k for integrated graphics? Rip
Should've read "Why are gaming laptops so expensive while they s*ck"
Thanks for the explanation!
Frankly, I think we should start reverting back to luggable form laptops. If you need that much power in a small form factor, you should feel it weigh you down and have to live with those choices.
Plus, the airflow would be massively improved.
Please create why modern entry level ATX is so much expensive than M-ATX one even if both is the same entry level?
I was lucky and got an Asus G713Q Strix for pretty cheap, used.
I use it because I live in a trailer, and I can't imagine a tower handling vibration and impacts better than a laptop.
That said, I will never understand the appeal of _small_ gaming laptops. I mean, I miss having a second screen (which I hope to rectify some day), but trying use just a 14" monitor? No thanks.
I ditched my plan to buy a laptop, now I'm considering building a powerful pc with the same budget.
My problem is I can't even FIND the model I want in stock. I have wishlisted some models and they've been unavailable for over a year now. It's completely stupid that I am willing to give them my money for a top end gaming laptop but they're like 'meh'.
They’re only more expensive If you get a high end model my budget gaming laptop has similar performance to my best friend’s desktop in new titles for a fraction of the price
aka RND make the price go to the moon even they have been using the same layout or placement of the cpu gpu fans heatsinks with minor variation, its a stagnant market only change is that change of hardware with lifespan of 1yrs for some components to die forcing customers to buy or findsomeone who can repair with parts
way more spacious than a cellphone still and the design don't change much in the laptops in term of dissipation tech... from the 3080 mobile to the 4090 mobile only 5 watt difference basically able to use the same design of cooling but yea stil double the power a 8800m gts used back in 2007
It'd be nice if laptop makers put AMD cards in their computers instead of just Nvidia. With how pricey the 40 series is, it would definitely help prices to get to choose some mobile version of a 7800XT
AMD barely sells any gaming GPUs for laptops so there isn't really a market for them. Their 7000 series basically has two options for laptops. AMD isn't aggressive at all in the laptop space outside of CPUs
That and corporations have lost their GOD DAMN MINDS!!!
nice bomber jacket
I remember when 2000 dollars brought server laptops. Now they're faster to became a portable more colorful heater.
with modern day computing there's no need to consume > 300w for something like gaming but inflated laptop prices are keeping alive the desktop PC and consumer building - way too niche markets otherwise
this isnt enough to explain the price at all
Just another techquickie video. Not sure what you expected from a tq video
Short answer: Because we keep buying them.
Did anyone else think while watching the sponsor when we will get the video "Why are gaming computer chair so expensive?" 😅
Does it cost money though. You can get a decent legion laptop for a good price whereas with desktop gps prices in the last years would have been difficult to get the same build for that price.
And here I am with an "open box" 4090 laptop that cost me only $1700. Cheaper than any comparable PC you can ever build.
I always ask myself who buys those? Progamer and Collage Students? Because from Infosys etc. you always get the Office ones or the Engineering ones which suck for Gaming (if you are even allowed to install Games).
I still use my Asus ROG laptop I bought in 2016. They don't make them like they used to. Literally. It has a Blu-ray drive :D
The most engregious are "business" laptops that are almost as costly as gaming laptops but has half the specs. Its only expensive because companies buys them due to being for "business".
"Gaming Laptop" lol
They say hand truck. I only just learned that was one of a dollys names
3:01 this is exactly what happened to my laptop, thank you MSI for your poor quality hinges design. I can’t believe it the GE series is very expensive and can’t handle every day use.
3:47 Barely anybody even maxes out 1 Gb anyway.
idk how it is elsewhere, but when it comes to laptops in India, gaming laptop are way cheaper than other workstation notebooks. Workstation laptops are the most expensive costing sometimes double the money as their gaming counterpart, with poor cooling design too.
4:57 fin.
I have a gaming laptop because I go to two places with regards to work. But what I’d really like would be a portable PC where I just plug in peripherals but still also be powerful enough for AAA gaming. Laptop is really a poor second best, and I don’t think a giant desktop would handle 8 hours of travelling per week. If someone made a block PC 5kg portable (no screen, no keyboard, no touch pad, no battery) as powerful as a 4090 laptop. TAKE MY MONEY!!!
lol the last one for $5499.99 has an i9+4090+96gb 5200mhz RAM + 8TB SSD. Half that 5 grand is in the add on extra upgrades.
I had an Acer Aspire VX with a 1050 ti and it thermal chocked and throttled itself to death within a year.
I built a gaming PC eith an Arc A580 and Ryzen 5 5600X for less money than Amazon charges for a laptop with a Celeron N4020 and Intel HD.
Macbooks are the only good laptops, if you want to game, get a full size PC or a games console.
Unless you also want to save money on the gas bill, then maybe a portable gaming space heater is for you.
What laptop is in the thumbnail?
Im assuming its probably smth like
Asus rog strix g15/g16
yay, a video not hosted by rigley!
i dont need a laptop for work, so id much prefer to build a small mini-itx build and carry a small monitor with it
I will wait till brands equip their laptops with the new AMD Strix Point apu to get a decent performance with a low power consumption than Nvidia....that will be great if they didn't prioritize it with OLED and Magnesium chassis
I bought a legion 7 a year ago the 32 GB , RTX 3070 laptop . I paid like 1900 dollars. Now I see the same laptop for a discount in shop for 850 dollars. WTF
Yeah I got the 3080ti 2tb 32gb 12th gen i9 for 3200 last year
@@balisongman07 and how much did the price drop
With copper at around $10 per kilo, I don't think commodity prices make much difference. There wouldn't be more than a kilo of copper in a laptop.
Laptops have a time and a place. They are pretty much just good if you travel alot and dont mind spending alot per year for what you get. I work in a small it store and i always see Gaming laptops come in at 2-3 years old just worn out, hinges broken or tight, paint worn off, overheating, dead ssd, dead power adapter, loose or broken ports, AND if your CPU or GPU fail its an entire motherboard replacment where you gotta replace all 3 for probably 600-1200 $ just for the part nevermind labour. Just build a 1200$ desktop and upgrade it in the future, instaed of payin 2-3k for a laptop that isnt worth anything in 3-4 years and is probably broken by then
I'd rather say why are even normal laptops so much more expensive (like even relatively compared to 2000-2012 laptops)....
Profit, that's why.
Steam Deck and Similar Windows Gaming Handhelds have killed Gaming Laptops for me, I got a Steam Deck OLED and this thing is amazing the battery life is crazy and the screen is gorgeous, now just waiting for Gen 2 ROG Ally or Lenovo Legion GO and might pick up one of those to supplement the portable computer needs.
Damn, this is a video I especially appreciate.
Helped me think about a couple things regarding expensive laptops that slipped my mind
thousand dollar gaming laptop without $15 fingerprint reader module is a freaking scam