me convincing you that spies are forever is the best musical of all time for about 16 minutes :)

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  • hi! thanku for watching! x
    also please go watch Spies Are Forever on the Tin Can Bros youtube channel

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  • @cidneeemanuelle9062
    @cidneeemanuelle9062 3 роки тому +414

    Also another reason why this was so great is that it was written with the actors voices in mind. Joey and Joe sound better in this musical than any starkid musical cause they're singing in their natural octave, not a high falsetto or some sort of comedic voice. They're both incredibly talented and get to show off that talent in saf

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +49

      i didn’t even know that but i love it, it’s very refreshing to hear how amazing they actually are!!!

  • @6idiotslover2711
    @6idiotslover2711 3 роки тому +640

    I find it..terrifying..that Lauren choreographed torture tango like its such a dark number and SHE DID THAT.
    Knowing Lauren choreographed this show and all her backround details she included... and just..god she did so well it foreshadows so amazingly and tells such a story of its own just..goddamn-

  • @ezelfrancisco1349
    @ezelfrancisco1349 3 роки тому +582

    You forgot when Curt said “Owen” in Torture Tango, DMA touched the back of his head to check if his mask is still on because he thought Curt recognizes him

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +101

      W H A T ?????????

    • @ezelfrancisco1349
      @ezelfrancisco1349 3 роки тому +109

      @@aquarifilm3364 Yeah, though a bit of disclaimer: it could be possible that he was just touching where he was hit

    • @Acem35
      @Acem35 3 роки тому +4

      Time stamp?

    • @amaeliss7827
      @amaeliss7827 3 роки тому +17

      @@ezelfrancisco1349 i reallly don't think so tho cuz it's time so perfectly

    • @quinn2091
      @quinn2091 3 роки тому +1

      Where?

  • @Caroline28483
    @Caroline28483 3 роки тому +244

    Curtwen? More like _Hurtwen_ **sobs** I'm in pain

  • @cicadatown
    @cicadatown 3 роки тому +190

    another thing thats SO COOL is in torture tango, when curt and owen are both singing, the lines "doesnt even matter if i killed my best friend" and "show you the horror of staying alive" overlap which i find very oof ouch painful :,)

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +18

      these comments are literally tearing my soul apart! :)

    • @EmpressUmbreon-fz1bf
      @EmpressUmbreon-fz1bf 11 місяців тому +1

      Good! :)

    • @kirstenkolkman6758
      @kirstenkolkman6758 5 місяців тому +2

      Something I also realized was that "the horror of staying alive" is also about Owen, not just Curt

  • @the-amazing-karnak
    @the-amazing-karnak 3 роки тому +269

    There is a very fast tonal switch between Torture Tango and We Love The Prince that I was not prepared for

    • @bellac6311
      @bellac6311 3 роки тому +12

      Its a fever dream and im here for it

    • @sheyannev2757
      @sheyannev2757 3 роки тому +19

      I think it's a post intermission song, you can't just throw a relaxed audience back into the thick of it

  • @kerrysim6875
    @kerrysim6875 3 роки тому +290

    3:28
    Foreshadowing is a dramatic device in which an important plot point is mentioned early in the story to return to later in a more significant

  • @vena6481
    @vena6481 3 роки тому +155

    Okay but ive never seen anyone mention how in ‘One Step Ahead’ Owen’s lines are LITERALLY ahead of Curt’s- he starts the chorus before Curt and Curt’s lines are behind his and eventually begin to overlap until they’re both singing at the exact same time which is reflective on how the scene progresses and how Curt catches up to Owen eventually.
    aLSO the lighting in the opening sequence on Curt and Owen switches between red and blue for them both. Red typically signifies passion, rage, blood and anger- those types of things. Blue is serenity, calmness, tranquility and in some forms purity too. Blue is seen as a hopeful, kinder colour in comparison to the harsher, crueller tones of red. The brilliance of this is that both Curt and Owen are blue and red at different points, both within the song and the musical as a whole. It really links into Owen singing ‘no one’s innocent’ because they aren’t!!! Also on a more base analysis, how each progress. From what I remember, Curt is initially blue and Owen is red- but that changes around the lines of ‘who do you trust, who do you betray’. Curt is our protagonist and therefore automatically blue- he’s purity and justice and righteousness whereas Owen is venomous fury but it actually isn’t so. At points we see how Owen fits with blue- he’s calm, cool and level-headed even when facing situations that would freak people out (seeing Curt again, torturing Curt n all that). Curt has strong elements of red- he’s passionate and whimsical and rash, seen throughout the entire musical but more specifically during ‘We Love the Prince’ and the scenes that follow. Then right at the end before Curt shoots, both Owen and Curt are cast in white light which is symbolic of peace, neutrality, purity and origin (all light comes from White light, representing the origin of colour similar to how we learn the origin of Curt and Owen’s relationship and I would say we learn the origin of Owen’s hate for Curt on a deeper, intimate level). Then suddenly, Curt shoots and he’s bathed in red light which is *technically* Owen’s colour. It’s just such a brilliant representation of the duality of man and really brilliant dramatic irony when you rewatch the show.

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +7

      RGWGAGSBSBAHAGASFSTAGA

    • @silver-zw7re
      @silver-zw7re 3 роки тому +1

      how could you do this to me

    • @akkadia_6605
      @akkadia_6605 Рік тому +7

      Damn. Not to mention Owen points out Curt shoe colour. What do you do with shoes? Take steps. He was one step ahead

  • @quinn2091
    @quinn2091 3 роки тому +120

    Want me to (possibly) cause you to realize more heart-rending stuff??
    When Owen starts to get emotional about his and Curt's relationship, he lowers his gun to point at Curt's heart. When he goes back to his plan and ignoring his emotions, he points it at Curt's head. When Curt decides to move on from his and Owen's relationship and his feelings for Owen, he points the gun at Owen's head

  • @katelynnmcquaid664
    @katelynnmcquaid664 3 роки тому +303

    Me: is fully aware that SAF is the best musical of all time
    Also me: yeah, I’ll see if they can convince me 😂

  • @selectedshipper8282
    @selectedshipper8282 3 роки тому +123

    The fact that they actually got people to say “Nazi’s are not so bad” out loud

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +45

      and the fact that people went along with it 💀💀💀

  • @lemonberry_soda
    @lemonberry_soda 8 місяців тому +45

    Watched this musical for the first time recently, something i love is how the "get the girl" phrase is used subversively by being entirely literal. When Cynthia says to "get the girl and save the day" (paraphrasing), she means it literally. Tatiana is a girl that he needs to "get" as a part of his job because she was too good at her job and he needs the stuff she took. And, he also "gets the girl" in the way that they bond, become friends, and she ends up switching sides. So not even that line is filler!

  • @ezelfrancisco1349
    @ezelfrancisco1349 3 роки тому +130

    I also forgot to mention how Owen's voice cracked when he said "That secret died the night you left me for dead."

  • @kitrose7441
    @kitrose7441 3 роки тому +171

    I forgot how emotionally devastating this show is

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +16

      *strokes hair* shhh, you’ll be okay

    • @sadies8100
      @sadies8100 3 роки тому +9

      No, actually, they won't. None of us will be, don't lie to us.

    • @jakeycakeybaby6608
      @jakeycakeybaby6608 3 роки тому +10

      Me, talking to people about this show: Yeah it’s got a lot of good comedy and the songs are great
      Me talking to people who also watched it: *It’s so f^cking sad I’m going to die*

  • @annoyingtheatrekid
    @annoyingtheatrekid 3 роки тому +84

    Ok but in Torture Tango when Curt says "doesn't even matter if I killed my best friend" at the same time that DMA says "to show you the horror of staying alive"

  • @anantkerur557
    @anantkerur557 3 роки тому +214

    Wait I just realized that Eyes on the Prize II is in bisexual lighting-and that's no surprise

  • @vordjoncus
    @vordjoncus 3 роки тому +92

    I got a minute into this video, and left to watch the whole musical, and I'm back now, and *I regret nothing.*

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +22

      that was the best thing you could’ve done and everyone should take notice

  • @faithkliner5145
    @faithkliner5145 3 роки тому +66

    HI I JUST REALIZED THAT THE OPENING SCENE IS A LITERAL FORESHADOWING OF TORTURE TANGO
    OWEN PUNCHES CURT ACROSS THE FACE AS AN ACT FOR THE OTHER GUY
    DMA PUNCHES CURT ACROSS THE FACE IN THE SAME WAY *EXCEPT HE ACTUALLY MEANS IT THIS TIME*

    • @faithkliner5145
      @faithkliner5145 3 роки тому +12

      ALSO--okay no more caps, sorry--this might just be my own interpretation of the song, but hear me out (and hang on, cuz this is a long one):
      "The Coldest Goodbye" is Owen's theme.
      *Lurking in the shadows watching your every move* - Owen has probably been keeping an eye on Curt for all of those years, plotting and scheming, ready to get back at him. Maybe not directly, but he probably kept files on him and used what he knew as his partner to pick him apart further.
      *Tall, dark, and dangerous* - This one's more obvious. I mean, c'mon, Joey's pretty tall. But dark, that could be referring to the evil that festered in him after grieving that he had been betrayed. And dangerous... well, his cover name was Deadliest Man Alive. That says it all.
      *A man with nothing to lose* - He literally has nothing. As far as we know, Curt was all he had, and as he said, his feelings died when he was left for dead
      *Women can't resist him* - This one is tricky, but let's take in the fact that there is the possibility of him being bi- or pansexual. We don't know if the relationships he may have in the past were all men. But if we rule out that little detail, there's also this: Cynthia clearly loves Owen. Not literally, but she does respect him more than Owen. The line doesn't have to be taken from a romance point of view. It can be platonic, too.
      *Villains can't escape* - Baron von Nazi was a villain in the play, and he killed him. But also, from HIS perspective, CURT is the villain.
      *The sharpest of shooters* - We can see that Owen is very skilled in combat. And like he said, Curt prefers to wing it. That probably means that he's the brains of the operation, coming up with a way to escape, how von Nazi gets the prince, all that jazz. Again, "the sharpest of shooters" could be metaphorical for his other skills.
      *Your heart he'll break* - A direct jab at Curt. AND a foreshadowing. He WILL break his heart (even more) once he finds out what he's become. And he does. Curt even says it in "One Step Ahead". ("You know you broke my heart!")
      And my final point: Owen sings the reprise of the same song.
      Okay, done now. If you've stuck around to read this, thanks for doing so! Sorry that this was so long.

  • @orangehasdied
    @orangehasdied 3 роки тому +91

    Can’t forget how in that last scene between Curt and Owen, Owen’s gun starts to lower, pointing at Curt’s heart rather than his head

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +14

      HELL. NO.

    • @orangehasdied
      @orangehasdied 3 роки тому +10

      @@aquarifilm3364 YEAH MAN!!!!

    • @meepmorpmi
      @meepmorpmi 2 роки тому +4

      No to the no to the no to the no to the I’m going to die

  • @Ameliayg
    @Ameliayg 3 роки тому +82

    the «taking your advice” kills me eveything i watch this musical

  • @ainsleyking7372
    @ainsleyking7372 3 роки тому +64

    Headcanon: the reason MK is singing in the beginning in Audrey Hepburn-esqe clothing is because she's used her new identity from the end and ended up as a club singer.

  • @HilaryLudkin-Finnie
    @HilaryLudkin-Finnie 3 роки тому +62

    Joey as Owen sounds EXACTLY like one of my friends and it gives me chills every time because she is really into theatre and acting to, the "should have been an actor scene creeps me out so much"

  • @lamarlatrell5045
    @lamarlatrell5045 3 роки тому +45

    I mean, torture tango is just the second part of their kinky BDSM relationship that starts the show. And Owen has such top energy.

  • @sassi3922
    @sassi3922 3 роки тому +97

    I've seen things now that I never paid attention to before like the stuff Owen is doing up there or I never realized when Owen reveals himself as DMA that Joey is talking and not Joe. Don’t know how I haven’t noticed this but incredible video

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +12

      ik!! i legit realised a couple of these things when making the video! but tysm🥺

    • @yeontan6745
      @yeontan6745 14 годин тому

      I didn’t notice that Joey was talking either. I didn’t realize realize a lot of the meaning in the musical until after but god it hits you like a ton of bricks

  • @6idiotslover2711
    @6idiotslover2711 3 роки тому +72

    THE ACTING IN THIS SHOW, ESPECIALLY THE LAST TWO EPISODES IS PAIN

  • @weesalikesmilktea4829
    @weesalikesmilktea4829 3 роки тому +35

    0:52 UM ACTUaLLY it foreshadows everything EXCEPT for the "get the girl" line and I think that's fantastic

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +12

      yup because GAY

    • @MangoMakesMoney
      @MangoMakesMoney 3 місяці тому +1

      Technically he got Tatiana after his boss said to ‘get the girl’ so he did just not in a romantic way :)

  • @thecaptainsmustache
    @thecaptainsmustache 3 роки тому +63

    I DONT NEED CONVINCING I ALREADY KNOW THAT FACT

  • @thecaptainsmustache
    @thecaptainsmustache 3 роки тому +122

    Mae, I have watched ALL the Saf comps, get ready for me to watch this 20million times😎🚪

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 3 роки тому +102

    I love that Curt thinking of Owen in the casino is set to a hum of "I do what I do so you can do what you do"
    I mean there's many things you can think he's thinking if you try to get specific like "we were supposed to be working together, I failed him." Whatever. Mostly i can't stop thinking about how, in retrospect, this is minutes after this song was introduced in the context of Barb. It's basically a theme for unrequited (or at least unavailable) love, and only a few people will understand that on a first viewing

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +17

      DAMN. HOLY FUCK. OUCH.

    • @ezelfrancisco1349
      @ezelfrancisco1349 3 роки тому +12

      I interpret that as Curt trying to ground himself to the situation by singing the song at hand. He sings "Somebody's Gotta Do It" and "Eyes On The Prize" to make himself focus.
      In contrast to "Torture Tango", he's singing his leitmotif (Spy Again) to distract himself for the pain

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 3 роки тому +24

    "arrogant, impulsive brute. now available at the tcb store!"

  • @begaydocrime5719
    @begaydocrime5719 Рік тому +9

    I watch this show so many times and i JUST understood the "Tatiana, don't slip up" line gfhdjskw

  • @spaceoneofmanyfrontiers
    @spaceoneofmanyfrontiers 3 роки тому +74

    aaahhhhh i want to rewatch saf so badly but i've got a mild concussion and saf makes me feel incredibly strong emotions so that's probably not good for my brain so i'm sad because i want to watch it really bad

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +14

      that’s the saddest thing i’ve ever heard but it’s true

    • @fivehundredlux
      @fivehundredlux 3 роки тому +5

      lumosmulti!!?!?!?? (one of my instagram friends also has a concussion and told me they wanted to watch saf but it gave them emotions and either it’s you or y’all are really in sync)

  • @glitter5009
    @glitter5009 9 місяців тому +7

    14:45 the lighting in this scene the way Curt is in the light and Owen in the dark 🥲

  • @AlwaysAnastasiaa
    @AlwaysAnastasiaa 7 місяців тому +6

    “Partner” has double meaning his job partner and his partner partner

  • @otterzrkuhl
    @otterzrkuhl 2 роки тому +15

    Ok this might sound weird but “the warmest hello to the coldest goodbye” and just the whole first song directly foreshadowing Curt and Owen’s relationship reminds me of “Think of Me” in Phantom of the Opera.

  • @saraconnor6196
    @saraconnor6196 3 роки тому +53

    I noticed at the 13:34 (ish, this entire scene tbh) Owen is clouded in the fog which could symbolize how Curt doesn't know him anymore and it's unclear what kind of person he is now.
    P.S. sorry if I got names wrong I haven't actually seen the musical before lol. I'm definitely going to have to watch it now.

  • @Acem35
    @Acem35 3 роки тому +25

    Owens head roll thing at 13:27 like if u agree

  • @adairdick3488
    @adairdick3488 3 роки тому +27

    esther fallick is the light of my life

  • @partially_stars
    @partially_stars 3 роки тому +24

    SAF is a Masterpiece and Joey (and Lauren for the choreo, and everyone tbh) deserves All The Awards

  • @lillianditomasso4241
    @lillianditomasso4241 3 роки тому +25

    Okay the line “women can’t resist him”
    I mean...she’s not wrong it’s not like I have a crush on agent mega or anything

  • @jimmy_the_squid9456
    @jimmy_the_squid9456 8 місяців тому +4

    I don't throw around the word genius often but SAF is GENIUS, one of my favorite shows I've ever seen and it's crazy that it's free to watch on UA-cam

  • @musicaltheater8942
    @musicaltheater8942 3 роки тому +16

    Every time I hear a song from this show, I have a literal visceral reaction

  • @KhoshekhTheNotCat
    @KhoshekhTheNotCat 2 місяці тому +1

    The hints that DMA is Owen: His accent shifting, touching the back of his head to check his mask, singing the beginning of Torture Tango behind Curt's ear in what he *knows* is his sensitive spot, as established scene one

  • @MegatronGriffin1984
    @MegatronGriffin1984 7 місяців тому +3

    Shout out to Joey for making all these quick changes every time Curt has gay panic

  • @Orange-tf3bf
    @Orange-tf3bf 3 роки тому +17

    Bold of you to assume I need convincing.

  • @weesalikesmilktea4829
    @weesalikesmilktea4829 3 роки тому +12

    SHIT WAIT OWEN *DOES* SAY KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE AAHH BRAND NEW LAYER BRAND NEW LAYER
    7:06 HOLY SHIIIIIT

  • @bell._05
    @bell._05 3 роки тому +7

    The fact that Mrs. Mega wasn’t featured is treason

  • @mathildehanaut1908
    @mathildehanaut1908 3 роки тому +15

    I love the use of Metatheater at 10:00 ( a common technique within Shakespeare's work)

  • @thewoodlandcryptid
    @thewoodlandcryptid 2 роки тому +8

    gotta love the super heterosexual choreography at the beginning

  • @lillianditomasso4241
    @lillianditomasso4241 3 роки тому +16

    I'm watching this compilation again and now I'm going to get up, close my door, get some props/costumes from my closet, and perform a one-woman production of Spies are Forever.

  • @rrrrogahtaylah2636
    @rrrrogahtaylah2636 3 роки тому +6

    MARY KATE AND CURT MEGA ARE BOTH SO INCREDIBLY ATTRACTIVE I'M D Y I N G

  • @justastarkidfangirl7115
    @justastarkidfangirl7115 3 роки тому +18

    omg Mae I DID NOT need convincing you that spies is the best thing ever....
    however omgggg it is the best thing ever I'm crying...like, I'm crying, tears...ah this video is amazinggg there's so much I never noticed it hurts even more now

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +2

      I KNOW YOU DIDN’T IT JUST NEEDED REINFORCING

  • @6idiotslover2711
    @6idiotslover2711 3 роки тому +8

    The vocals>>

  • @meaganpower4175
    @meaganpower4175 3 роки тому +10

    This-this is amazing! I didn’t need convincing already knowing it, but I definitely did need this video. Because this musical is beautiful and amazing and absolutely WRECKS me everytime I watch it.
    Also something that no one points out but kills me everytime is Curts face during Coldest goodbye reprise. He’s so sad, poor baby! Like I’m trying to focus on Joey’s amazing voice but I’m always crying over Curts sadness. Just the acting during entire scene is just....*chefs kiss

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +1

      tin can brothers absolutely smashed this musical it’s phenomenal!!!

  • @Riobjection
    @Riobjection 3 місяці тому +1

    I KNOW THIS VIDEO IS 3 YEARS OLD BUT. the way owen says ''i remember'' during that last scene he has with curt breaks me like holy shit things couldve been so different if only, but it will never be anything more than an if

    • @Riobjection
      @Riobjection 3 місяці тому

      they drive me insane i think about them all the time

  • @TaliMonaghanmusic
    @TaliMonaghanmusic 3 роки тому +11

    Tatiana is TCB's natasha romanoff

  • @ThatDudeWithBoobs
    @ThatDudeWithBoobs 3 роки тому +4

    5:02
    I'm telling you, I sobbed when I first saw this, and even more so after watching it a second time...

  • @galaxias_falls1749
    @galaxias_falls1749 3 роки тому +7

    11:03 OWEN NO YOU DIDNT-

    • @river2980
      @river2980 2 місяці тому +1

      I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO POINT THAT OUT

  • @noastevenson6917
    @noastevenson6917 3 роки тому +2

    I just randomly came across this and oh my God I cannot die with out seeing the full thing.😧

  • @bellagsilva762
    @bellagsilva762 3 роки тому +3

    once again i'm sobbing because saf

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +1

      one of the main reasons as to why i cry a lot of the time

  • @comfortableshark8936
    @comfortableshark8936 3 роки тому +6

    *cries* Saf is truly the best musical

  • @veros_alec2967
    @veros_alec2967 7 місяців тому +1

    The saddest lovers to enemies story

  • @mushroom_king2600
    @mushroom_king2600 2 місяці тому

    6:28
    Curt:doesn't even matter that i killed my best friend!
    Said "best friend" stood behind him in disguise holding a machete about to kill him

  • @ashlynnheller8400
    @ashlynnheller8400 3 роки тому +2

    When I say I would kill to be in this show. Even if it was in a morw traditional ensemble role.

  • @erinrosser6717
    @erinrosser6717 3 роки тому +1

    0.01 seconds in and I'm convinced

  • @nsbsbsbshssb1341
    @nsbsbsbshssb1341 3 роки тому

    i loved this video!

  • @bookwormgirl000
    @bookwormgirl000 3 роки тому

    thank you for this

  • @hayleigh7354
    @hayleigh7354 3 роки тому +2

    pls I don’t need to be convinced

  • @laurensmith7942
    @laurensmith7942 3 роки тому +5

    undoubtedly amazing work, but y'all are too easily impressed for me :)))

    • @aquarifilm3364
      @aquarifilm3364  3 роки тому +3

      i do have extremely low standards for most things but this is still outstanding hehehe

  • @hatchetfieldboatingsociety4146
    @hatchetfieldboatingsociety4146 2 роки тому +2

    this is an outrage that there isn't any of cynthia's scene/j

  • @thatonegirlwithamustache2758
    @thatonegirlwithamustache2758 3 роки тому +1

    no one needed to convince me. I already know

  • @quinn2091
    @quinn2091 3 роки тому +1

    On the contrary my good fellow saf fan, Owen is the only one who gets to make that joke, we all know gays use humor to cope

  • @dr.zespert
    @dr.zespert 3 роки тому

    link in the description????

  • @thekingofratz801
    @thekingofratz801 3 роки тому +1

    i didnt need any convincing.

  • @hisirdouxcasperan9074
    @hisirdouxcasperan9074 2 роки тому

    I don't need convincing, but ok

  • @starbird6
    @starbird6 3 роки тому +2

    this video is pointless. i already believe saf is the best musical in existence :))))))))

  • @lostisfound5130
    @lostisfound5130 6 місяців тому

    0:00 and I'm already convinced, you bring a really compelling argument to the table 🫡