The lid is sealed to enable you to leave fuel in the burner when your finished using it that's why the lid screws on, but like anything the tricks are learnt from using something a lot, great vid
When I go out camping with my dad he always brings the gasol burner for the Trangia stove. He only uses the alcohol burner in case something would happen to the gasol burner or if we would run out of methane. What is the best aspect of this stove is how sturdy it is when you need to use it in rough and windy conditions. In Sweden we call it a "storm kitchen" because of it's reliability. I mean sure, it wouldn't handle a literal storm, but I guess you get the point.
Never use the lid to put the burner out. You'll ruin the o-ring seal. Use the closed simmer ring. Cure your pan and pots with good lard or oil before you start cooking with them.
Hi, I cured only the pan (non-stick) but used the big pot (Duossal) right after cleaning it once with water. Why is it important to cure the pots? Do they get damaged if not done?
When I was younger I was all about boil time etc. Now, as the years have knocked the edges off my naivety I absolutely love the benifits of the Trangia system. It takes a little longer to boil but it does it silently and never, ever breaks. As a designer there is something quite special about it. I enjoy using mine everytime, whether I'm up a mountain or in my back garden.
Hi mate I use the simmer ring to put out the flame, their is a rubber o ring in the lid, might melt. Metho is the best to use, other fuels can get out of hand and smell. If you want to clean the stain of the kettle from the flame. I use white vinegar and detergent with a scourer. I like what your doing and the direction the channel is heading 👍
Scandi tips here: 27 is the smallest 1-2 person version, small and efficient. I still have mine from the early seventies.. and use the simmer ring. One preminum quality by using the alcohol system is that is can be used in heights, I have cooked at the top of Mount Kenya at 4800 meters, no problem. Try that with gas, some will lose the pressure. Add a small amount of water to avoid blackenes pots. And always remember - the first pancake is alway a mess, it goes directly down the gullet, next ones turn out better...
Hi mark, I love my trangia stove and have used for many years, I do have a couple of points to clarify for your viewers. USE only (in Australia) Methylated Spirits or Methanol as fuel, DO NOT use Shellite or Petrol (Unleaded) as these will burn too hot and melt the burner. Use a closed simmer to snuff out the flame, and there’s no problems carrying the unused fuel in the burner if the o-ring is in good order. Ramble 2016
@@badhabitz69 hi, sorry I just saw the post. In Australia I think there's only 1 manufacturer, Diggers. Around the $4 per litre is the normal price. Very easy to find.
Did a lot of snow & ice climbing as a youth before moving to AUS, Trangia Stoves were always the stove that worked. Since then I've used them a lot bicycle touring. Impervious to wind, rain or cold. Guaranteed to work, no jets to block didn't blow out. We used to leave the fuel in the burner, I never had the rubber ring leak. As Annie White said the Trangia fuel bottle works a treat. But we used to use an Optimus petrol stove most of the time. I had a small aluminum one that fitted into a rucksack which they don't make anymore and a heavy brass one in the boot of the car. You can buy a cheap Chinese copy of the Trangia but the one I bought didn't have a simmer ring. I use that one to boil water and the real one to cook on. You get used to the simmer ring. Keep practicing & we'll see you on Master Chef Mark
Nature Boy not saying you must be doing something wrong but I don't know anyone who has had a problem using a trangia in the wind. I've had my trangia set for over 35 years and never ever had a problem.
I've used trangia all over the world up mountains and in both Antarctica and Norway unlike gas it has never let me down, especially if you use the Swedish army fuel bottle and keep them close to your body.
People think they're expensive but they literally last forever, that's good value. Mine was new in the seventies, and still going strong. What's that per year lol
And they aren't that expensive - UK prices I can get the hard anodised for £80. That's a stove, two pots, a frypan and a kettle. The headline number may be higher than a cheap gas burner, but if at altitude you mainly need liquid fuel. An MSR Whisperlite alone is more than the full set. Offer put the MSR a little over £100!
You’ll get the hang of it. Have successfully made many pancakes on the Trangia. System can’t be beat for pot stability and wind resistance. Also, everything will be cool by the time you’ve eaten the food.
Useful tip for the whipper snapper, mix the metho with water, up to about 10% water, this cools the flame and makes cleaning the underside of the pots much easier. also use the Trangia fuel bottle in case you fill it back up before it has cooled you wont create a fire storm....trust me on this!!! Yes the simmer ring will loosen up, you just need to use it :) I got my Trangia about 30 years ago and it still works like brand new, you cant break these things. P.s. the big holes in the side of the base unit are to allow for an adapter for a gas burner, you can convert these to run on gas
Here in Mexico its nearly impossible to buy something like this, but i made one myself with a couple of soda cans and it really works!! how cool is that...
Got my first Trangia (One man) for my 18th birthday - I just turned 53 and it's still working! The only thing that goes on them are the O rings (About a fiver for two) and i still have one left from the pair I bought ten years ago! Make sure you keep the yellow bag because the brass onto aluminium can rot through the pan or kettle. Over the years I have bought all sorts of fancy and expensive stoves but keep going back to my Trangias (They are much cheaper in Europe). My latest buy is a converter to use it with disposable gas bottles which make life much easier but the principle is the same. Once you get used to it, the simmer ring is great - all in all a winning combination. Great vid, keep em coming!
Loved that you showed actually learning its quirks. The flame takes a while to get to full strength. They do a winter preheated for it that gets it to full pelt much faster... Makes it easier to gauge what your cooking on
Maybe a few years late but I watched your video yesterday, I too had problems lifting the simmer ring out and solved it by fitting a small nut and bolt through the rivet that it pivots on. It faces up about 10mm and makes it easy to hold with tongs or a multitool.
I personally really enjoy the Trangia. It is a very old, safe and robustly designed outdoors kitchen. Swedish military has been using it for ages. I think it's a matter of getting used to. And I definitely think pancakes is one of the hardest things to cook on it because it is so crucial to get the heat dispersal right. If you look at trangias own recepies they have things like chili con carne, lental & carrot stew, salmon casseroll etc. Efficient nutritious meals for the outdoors. in these recepies you basically fry onion, potatoes on the pan. which is a far easier task. ;)
I love my trangia. They seem expensive but they last for ever if you look after them. Not only do you get an excellent cook system you also get 2 pots a fry pan and a kettle all of which folds into a very compact space. Excellent product.
My best way of dealing with a raging hot spot in the center like that is to make small pancakes around the outside of it. 3 little palm size cakes that miss the hotspot usually works better for me than trying to battle with a big cake cooking unevenly. Its a shortcoming of the pan thickness, mostly. Your ceramic screen idea is genius.
Gday Mark, I have been using the old army model Trangia for yonks. That model has enough room to carry spare fuel bottle and a ferro rod to light it. It lights first strike every time and you don't have to search for the matches, or worry about striking a light in the rain. When you put it out, take the O-ring out of the cap before dropping it on top, you will melt the o-ring otherwise after the thing has been running a while. After it has cooled I put the O-ring back in I leave the metho in it and it just stays in there until the next time I use it, it has never been a problem.
Wiggle the lid of the simmer ring and it will losen up in the rivet. You can also help it with a few punched groves from the outside to sit more tightly.
Have used one for decades. Yes they are slightly slower than gas, but what's the hurry? isn't going outdoors about slowing down? Best thing about a Trangia is how well they cook in strong winds, even rain and snow. Love em!!
Having used both the disposable gas bottles and trangia stoves over the last 20 years, I would definitely go with the gas bottles. Lower price and much better control over the cooking process is by far the bigger advantage. I also find the gas much safer to use in terms of less burns to my hands..... 🙂
from experience since 1980, after you start using Trangia you will only use it. first no parts to lose! water boiling is fine - not a metal melted. You will eventually crush the "O" ring: easy to get parts from hardware store - buy two. be sure to have heavy duty paper towels to separate your Teflon - keeps them from storage damage. I carry a second pot lifter - me! I have made pizza on a scout outing. I eat big on hikes. love my coffee. learned from fellow youtubers tonight to add 5% water to fuel bowl to cut down soot. I have gotten away from the early sets and mainly use WESTWIND as a lightweight set up. I boil water and cook with a wind screen from heavy foil. have fun I can get you some recipes.
Rick Timmons wow, I’m all for recipes, I camp a lot (for 40yrs steady) and love cooking in the woods after a good hike. Would love to see your recipes.
Ive got the same kit for over 6 years and still going strong, its a great unit, but the only thing you need to take into consideration is the Pot Grabber. After a while the gripper part tends to scratch up the pots so it's best to use High Temp Silicon Liquid and dip the gripper part into it to stop the scratching of your pots. The product is similar to Liquid Electrical Tape. I spose you could also use that as well. Cheers from NSW.
This is why I take a little non stick pan with me, then you don't get the problem that you are having, I have one of these also, they are brilliant little bits of kit, nice video as well mate.
Hi Mark, as others have said careful with using the lid to snuff the flame you could melt the O ring inside the lid. That O ring means you can carry the burner fully fueled it won't leak. You will really appreciate the benefit of the Trangia on one of those chilly Bendigo winters mornings when your Butane burner won't have enough vapour pressure in the can to burn properly. The Trangia runs just the same. You really don't need to pre warm it either, you may get a bit of extra soot on the pans but it's easy to clean off. They are great little cookers with a bit of practise you get the hang of how much simmer ring to use and how much water to add to the fuel to cool the flame slightly. Ray.
Got mine from a car boot sale. Paid around £5 !!! You can loosen the simmer ring lid by wriggling it about. Eventually it will get loose enough to rotate using one hand.
Opps! The fry pan has a clear plastic sheet that you are not supposed to throw away. You keep it to protect the fry pan finish after you pack up. Just like the yellow bag is kept. Also, it is recommended that you either use the Trangia fuel bottle, Vargo, or other container that gives you better flow control when you fill the burner. If you are going to compare the Trangia to other cook systems, the real utility of Trangia is not necessarily the alcohol burner. In addition to all the parts nesting together, the built-in windshield gives the Trangia a substantial advantage over other stoves. So much heat (and therefore fuel) is lost due to even the slightest wind. Most windscreens are clumsy add-on features that get in the way of your cooking. In contrast, the Trangia windscreen system is convenient and efficient. For any cook system, you have to carry a burner, fuel, windscreen, and pots/pans. The Trangia incorporates all these items in one package that is smaller/lighter than carrying everything separately. Regarding your comment that fuel for the Trangia is difficult to source on the trail, this is just not true. HEET is available at any auto parts store just as Everclear is available at any liquor store. Hardware stores in towns along the Appalachian Trail carry mineral spirits and Marine supply stores carry fuel for marine stoves. I had no problem resupplying my Trangia on the Appalachian Trail or the 2,600 mile Pacific Crest Trail. Trangia needs to focus future development on three areas: First, replacing the current simmer ring design with something more reliable and functionable in order to produce a smaller flame. I'm currently working on a DIY solution suggested by a UA-camr: I bought a second lid (not a simmer ring), remove the rubber ring, cut a very narrow slot in the middle of the lid through which is inserted a small wick from a oil lantern.Do not screw the lid down tight but leave it somewhat loose so the stove does not pressurize. I'm hoping that it will produce a small consistent flame for simmering. If I need a bit larger flame, I can pull the wick higher. Second, a heat deflector plate to insert over the burner to eliminate hot spots when using the fry pan. Lastly, many US states are banning the use of alcohol stoves because they don't have a shut-off feature and the fuel can be spilled if the stove is knocked over. A redesign of the alcohol burner to address these topics is needed if they want alcohol stoves to remain relevant in the market. Trangia and Firebox both sell a canister attachment that works well with the Trangia cook system.
When I make pancake's, I wait a little longer before flipping them. I wait til the bubbles in the middle are almost solid. Also, with that small spatula, you might try making your pancakes slightly smaller, and cooking one more of them. I must say, I watched the entire video and I enjoyed watching it.
I really liked the ceramic heat shield you used. That's a fantastic idea to regulate and diffuse the heat for cooking (vs full on for boiling water). The disk adds to the degree of control that the simmer ring can't do alone. This is the best idea I have ever seen for alcohol stove cooking. I also thought your pancakes were too large for the spatula and pan, so you should make them smaller so they turn easier, or use a larger, regular sized spatula. Basically, just match the pancakes to the tool or vice versa, for the best results. Thanks for the informative video. The disk looks homemade. Is it? If so, how did you make it?
Awesome vid again Mark. I see gauze mat came in handy again. One easy fix for ease of adjusting the simmer ring is drill out the small rivet holding the two pieces of simmer ring (choke and ring). then replace with a small loose fitting rivet or small bolt/screw with an interference nut. Don't use nylok nuts for obvious reasons. Then all it takes is moving the choke even whilst any of the pots are on top with your handle or even a stick.
the rivet on the simmer ring is a bit to tight , i played with it a while by turning it constantly , now it's worked in and easy to turn , try it ,it helps.
1. use the other side of the lid to put the flame out, no chance of ruining the o-ring doing it that way, 2. the pancakes were cooking too fast in the middle becuase you had the heat too high, i learned from experience, 3. you do amazing reviews, i thumbs up and subscribes, please continue making videos i enjoy them
hey mark the gas burner addition is sweet, takes it to a whole new level, check it out. The large hole in the base of your stove is for the gas burner hose and bottle attachment...cheers love your work
hey mark you can also get a $5 attachment off ebay for the cheaper gas cartridges like the ones you use....cheers www.gooutdoors.co.uk/trangia-trangia-camping-stove-p141015 www.ebay.com.au/itm/Picnic-Burner-Cartridge-Gas-Fuel-Canister-Stove-Cans-Adapter-Converter-Head-OZ-/132036042357?hash=item1ebdf61e75:g:iIoAAOSw-0xYU4Vw
Just remember hard anodised doesn't necessarily mean non stick. It's just less liable to scratch. The pan will still need to be seared just like a wok. Trangias are without doubt the safest of all hiking stove systems and definitely the quietist.. The Triangle is a lovely lightweight alternative.
I have the model 25 and would highly recommend it. I use it canoeing and motorcycle trips and all around camping. I only use the fry pan and the 1.75 L Pot, I put my bowls and utensils right inside the cook kit. It Cooks is fast as I can..... lol! It is very stable and works well in the Wind. Only if I was backpacking would I look for something lighter.....
James Pearson I too have the model 25... love the stability and solidness of it all. I know some say.. just make your own burner.. but those would never last me the way I pack / shove things about. The Trangia burner just takes a beating... so ..worth the pease of mind for me.
Actually, I did part of the AT a few years back, (maybe more than a few now) but I used an alcohol stove and had no problem finding Metho Alcohol (Automotive shops sell something called HEAT and it's a fuel drier, or Methylated Alcohol), Cheap and easy to carry.
Nice video man iv had one for years use it for hill walking and motorcycle trips and got the gas burner for it now as well works a treat keep yourself rubber side up man 😉👍👌
Good video! My favorite stove that I have been using for years is the MSR Dragonfly. It's small, light and compactable and easy to setup in seconds. It can use any liquid fuel you want, petrol, airplane fuel, alcohol, kerosene even starter fluid or injector cleaner. It has an adjuster knob for flame control to do simmering. Has a wide base to set pots on without fear of knocking them off. The flame looks just like a burner on a kitchen stove. Only drawback is that it can be loud when turned all the way up. Sounds like a small jet engine.
Good bit of kit the Trangia, I thought about the gas type but the idea of carrying 2 cans makes less sense, I use a 500 ml Trangia bottle to carry the meths and it is not an issue, even comes with a clever tap so you can fill the burner easier. Handy little tip in the booklet about add a little water to the meths to prevent the soot from marking the bottom of the pans. But each to his own I guess, that's why we own the best Dual sport- Adventure bike and others think they do. 👍👍👍👍👍👍 DR rules 😄😄😄
Hey Mark, with the simmer ring you can use your pot grabber to close it down. What I do is grab it by the top piece first and flip it upside down then re-grab the ring by the brass cap and you can leverage the slider on the ground or a log or whatever and you can drop it back on the burner. Or you can grab a stick and your pot grabber and hold the ring down and turn the slider with a stick. Once you do it a couple times it becomes less fiddly. I love the Trangia. I do recommend oil instead of butter though, butter burns easily and seems to make your pancakes or flapjacks burn easier. Good luck, love your videos
Simmer ring can be locked with two set screws. Drill opposing holes in the shield, and use two long screws to lock the ring from spinning before lighting. Then use your knife or a stick to move the damper about while burning. It also locks the burner from wiggling. My favorite campstove with my wife. It has a proper shaped kettle and she likes tea. I like how everything nests into a proper kit. I tend to control fry heat just as I do on a campfire. I heat the pan then pull it off to cook, then reheat the pan holding it at the tip of the blue flame. I like a crêpe pan as my camp fryer. Sturdy, thick steel, nearly flat, well seasoned.
Oh I live 5 miles off the Appalachian Trail in America. There are supply points about every days walk usually within a mile or three (5km) off the trail, but you are right. High proof alcohol for your stove is a much a problem as buying butane. However you can get a lot more BTU of heat (days of use) in a bottle of liquid fuel as in the same size can of butane. Weight is higher though.
Hi Mark. You should season your pans with oil until it smoked then wipe out. Then pour salt and bring to heat. Then wipe out. Avoid washing, if it is washed for reason of cooking other dish’s, just season again, makes it nonstick for pancakes and crepes, hope this helps, Martin Brown (chef)
Very enjoyable video. I have had my Trangier for years and take it four wheel driving and dinghy cruising. Simply a great, well built and bullet proof bit of kit. I carry a spare o ring and also some of that non slip cloth they sell in camping stores to pack all the bits together. I simply cut it to size and it protects everything. I like the idea of the diffuser. I will be sourcing one as soon as possible. I just use metho with 10% water to reduce carbon on the bottom of everything.
20:30 Trangia won't thank me for this but there is a way, take the simmer ring, open fully then bend the point where it hinges on the rivet one way or the other very gently. This will tighten or loosen the movement of the cover, I have mine set to have no resistance, then a tap or push with the leatherman gives me plenty of quick adjustment. Happy trails dude.
Hi mate. The placcy bag is vital to stop corrosion to the ally from the brass burner. Never ever store when even slightly damp either - always dry properly otherwise corrosion will happen :( I have had mine for about 30 years now and it is still the best camp stove I have used. Best addition is a gas converter to use to be a bit faster or when it is really cold otherwise the meths burner is just great. No worries about storing some meths in the burner so long as the O ring is good. Add a teaspoon of water to the almost full burner of meths to cut down on the soot produced. Keep up the good work buddy!
Thanks Mark, IMO one of your best videos yet. I've been using a Trangia burner for about 6 years on or off (I also use wood burners, gas stoves as well as cooking over camp fires) and it is a case of 'horses for courses'. Using a meths stove does take 'practise' and will get easier/ more efficient as you 'learn' more. The 'singed eyebrows' moment with the gas burner was 'classic Mark' PMSL!! Keep it up mate you're doing brilliantly. - Just a couple of pointers when using the Trangia - Don't use the lid to snuff it out (rubber O ring) use the simmer ring. On cold nights sleep with the burner full of meths in your sleeping bag to keep the meths warm - much faster time to bloom in the morning. Oh and try not to run the burner dry, it isn't good for the burner and can lead to cracks (I've always carried mine full of meths and it has never leaked). Once you get use to simmer ring you can put it onto the burner without removing the windshield, and yes the simmer ring will loosed up with use so you can push it closed with a stick - Cheers Steve
That's the reason I never cook pancakes whilst camping . . . on any type of cookware! But put bacon in that frypan and it's a different story ☺You can easily pour unused fuel back into a small wide neck Nalgene bottle, just pour slowly and steadily. Once you get used to the simmer ring it's great, a few more cooks should see you right. You also didn't mention the main reason I love Trangia cooking, the silence . . . gas burners can be very intrusive in nature . . . brewing up or cooking in peace and quiet shouldn't be underestimated, especially if you're solo. Glad you like it, once you get used to them they really are hard to beat and why they have so many fans. Reliable, simple, versatile and pretty much bomb proof, but any part is easily replaced should you damage it. Folks hand Trangia sets onto their children. Thanks for sharing, really love your videos, always informative and honest as well as amusing. The perfect balance.
Love my Trangia! You can burn Heet (the fuel additive in the yellow bottle) and can find it at pretty much any gas station. The bottles it comes in are cheap and they don't leak. The coolest thing about using alcohol instead of white gas or regular gas is that alcohol doesn't stink like bloody hell when you spill it. It evaporates quickly and doesn't leave a flammable oily residue behind. You also don't have to buy special fuel bottles, although Trangia makes a cool one. As long as you test the bottle for compatibility with alcohol you should be fine. I wish they would make the cook set and windscreen components out of titanium to lighten the kit up a bit more. There are other options for alcohol cook sets but Trangia has been doing it for years. I love that screen you put on it. Where can I buy one? It's funny that you talk about cold weather use as it's one of the challenges with alcohol systems. There are ways to make it work but extreme cold is had on alcohol burners.
Put a little slurp of water in the metho stops all the blackness on the pots. The little white spoon you get with a rice cooker makes a great spatula. Cut a bit off the handle so it fits inside.
I know I'm only 3 years later to this video but I have some advice if you haven't worked it out already. For pancakes, close that sooner ring down to a bit more than half for pancakes. The windscreens collect hear like crazy and you'd think it's gone nuclear. Also, use oil with your butter, it's way more effective. Don't be so impatient, bro! It should take about 10 minutes per side on that thing. These are great kits and I use it everywhere at about 4/5 times a month. Ditch that screen. You won't need it if you close the simmer time down.
Great video and its great to see such a natural take on the stove. I use nothing else when out camping and my traingia has never let me down. It does take a little practice but once you have it cracked it is a fantastically efficient cooking system. Backpacking I use the burner and a simple stand and that gets me everything I want while your review system is more for the camping site style of camping. Methylated spirit with a 10% water mix will reduce the sooting up of any utensil. Thanks again...
I use a non stick hard anodized skillet and have no problems cooking pan cakes with the trangia stove without the simmer ring. Maybe because the skillet is thicker metal.
You should try to use gas burner with Trangia. Its cleaner and you get more control. And if you planning to use it in longer trips . A multi fuel burner is the way to go.
Hi Mark, Thanks for a great review. I am a big fan of the Trangia kit. I have been using a Trangia burner for ages, though have never had the whole cook system. I do plan to buy the same one very soon, the 27-8, it will suit my needs well. I have a few comments, firstly if you use the screw lid to snuff the flame you are slightly damaging the O'ring each time. Better to use the closed simmer ring to snuff the flame. I think it's better to keep your burner empty when you are not using it, I kept some meths in the burner for a while and the O'ring got 'sticky'. Then one day I opened up the burner, lit it, without paying attention, and then noticed thick black smoke. The 'sticky' O'ring stuck to the burner and was burning. So I had to buy a new O'ring. Secondly yes the simmer ring is fiddly, however, yes, it will loosen up over time. If you have some of the 'spring' type cooking tongs in your cook kit it is easy to hold the simmer ring base with tongs and use a bit of stick, a knife, whatever, to move the simmer plate. If you have a problem with soot, add a small amount of water to your meths, the trangia website says no more than 15% water, though I would not go more than 10%. Easier for my head to calculate, and I don't think there is any more benefit. Thank you again for another great video. Best wishes. Tony M.
Thanks for a nice video, I’m learning how to get better at using the Trangia as well, the comments about how to fix the mistakes were useful and so were the tips, except for some rude keyboard warriors in the comments, I found this very helpful. Thanks
I used a couple of dog food tins for my burner on last years border run - worked fine (august/cold). 200 bucks is a lot for a couple of pots and a tin grabber. Google "supercat stove" make your own burner and shield/simmer ring then hit up the op shop for some pots and wotnot that work. Break down the alcohol down into little "pop top" juice bottles that the kids like saves carting a litre around. thanks for the vid, quality viewing as always.
You can get the adapter for about $8 on eBay. Easier to use than metho. Standard criteria for all camping equipment. Must be able to to be used, setup, in the dark when pissed with no dramas. Cheers Steve.
Trying to Light an alcohol burner in the Antarctic is going to be incredibly difficult You're right about time when you're camping ....I take mine and set it up and start boiling water and while that's going I then set up my tent.... when I'm finished with my tent and my sleeping bag arrangement ...I come back and the water is just about boiling Once you have snuffed out the burner let it cool for 10 minutes or so while you're eating supper then once it's cool you can replace the lid with the O-ring seal and your fuel will be contained for your next meal
Hey if nobody told you yet you want to use the snuffing ring to extinguish the flame not the cap because the cap has an o-ring that can melt other than that great video thx
Thats pretty good going considering the pan is so light weight and is not non stick. I guess if you could get the non stick version if you were worried about food sticking. But then you lose the robustness. Good video.
Started like 90years ago and still the best seling alcohol stove, and as a nature lover i think you need to ask your self where do you fuel come from. Gas is most likely from drilling or fragging but alcohol can come from alot of things but non as toxic as gas
Great video as ever Mark. Check out the Trangia Gas Burner or Multi-Fuel kit. Gives you all the convenience of gas canister fuel and the Trangia stove combined.
Have used a Trangia 27 hiking and motorbike travelling for more than ten years. Not all the bells and whistles but with a decent fuel storage bottle (Trangia is good) they are bulletproof. Just don't knock over a burning stove...
You can just put the lid on and close it tight after it's cooled down. You don't have to pour out there extra fuel. The lid has an O ring and the Trangia is designed to hold fuel for transport.
In the alcohol stove videos I have seen, they only use a small amount of fuel, so the center yellow flame does not happen, and only the blue ring of flame occurs. I suspect the results would be better that way. BTW, wait until the batter sets on the top before you flip.
I know the frying pan came with a round sheet of plastic, keep that it protects the non stick. I cut one out of a flexible cutting board, and then I have a cutting board too.
Mate you can leave the fuel in and screw the top down, it as a rubber seal inside so you don't have to pore out the meths. Only use the simmer lid to snuff it out.
Glad you did a review on this item. Now I can see that it is just way too fiddly to bother with (and too expensive). I like to do motorcycle camping trips, like you do, and I've found that it's very hard to beat the convenience of a gas bottle and burner! But, I also like the little wood burners too.
Making pancakes is not that easy, you need a lot of butter and a fresh 'dough'. Even in the kitchen :) Third time was a success! I'm impressed! Thanks for another great video.
I tested with my cheap knockoff the other day, and it took 15ml to cook 1 cup of 8 degree celsius (46 degree Farenheit) water. So to make things easy, i put a big 20ml syringe in the kettle together with the burner and the handle. That way i dont need to pay too much attention to it, and know that it is done cooking when it has burnt out. Although... I did this test inside, and if im outside in windy conditions, it will use more fuel (my cooking system is not as nice as that Trangia set, so wind will affect it a lot more)... I gotta get a real Trangia...
Purchased the gas burner for my trangia it is awsome. You can use an adapter to use the cheap butane cans directly to the trangia then use the propane canister if it is under zero as straight butane will freeze up hope this helps enjoy. Cheers Steve.
Considering the challenge with flame size how would you compare this stove setup with the little fire box stoves you've tested? But I'm with you, the convenience and adjustment of a gas stove is hard to beat.
Solution: the heat is way too high. You must reduce the heat (simmer ring). Once the heat is lowered, don’t mess with the cakes; let them cook. A lower heat will stop the surface of the pancakes from burning AND cook the inside of the cakes. Good luck and happy eating...
I'm able to use the lid to save the fuel in the trangia. I never dump it. Only put the fire out with the simmer ring. save the lid from heat because of the rubber seal which keeps it from leaking.
10 % water in the meth sorts out the soot. (Old Swedish trick.The steam blocks the soot - try it!) The price is a bit steep but only like 25% higher than in Sweden directly from Trangia..(which is not the cheapest outlet..)
Watching a real flame rather than a gas burn is decent. A bit primeavaI maybe. I think what your trying to get across is the simplicity of it. No moving parts to go wrong, easy to see how much fuel you have left plus you still see people using trangia stuff they bought 50yrs ago!! I treated myself to this set recently and it really is the best & simplest cookset out their. I use a mini version of it if I'm going mountain hiking or just lightweight and will use this set for normal camp operations for better cooking potential. I don't bother to wait for the flame to start, just light it and bung the kettle on. It's a shame to waste the heat in the meantime.
Andy's East Coast Adventures the mini is great for solo camping and if you want to bring something bigger just in case, it fits perfectly inside the Zebra billy pot will extra room for utensils etc, I include my Firebox Nano inside and an extra Trangia, all neatly packed inside the Zebra, one vessel, lots of options.
Although I like my anodized liter pots for most things, I'd leave my hard anodized fry pan home and take my non-stick pan. I've read you can season them like a cast iron skillet but it didn't seem to work for me. I may try again some day. Personally, if frying pancakes, I'd get the flame much lower and be prepared to (if necessary) hold the pan up and perhaps make a circular motion to heat the bottom of the pan more evenly. I'd let the top start to set a bit more. Enough that it's less likely to tear while flipping. (If the bottom is starting to burn before it's firm enough to flip, you've got too much heat.) And if using anodized, I might even consider adding a bit more oil before or while flipping to avoid flipping the top onto a dry surface. (Although I could probably get by with it with my non-stick.) I've heard the anodized called "non-stick" but... you won't hear it from me. :) Also, to me at least (I'm a tightwad), fuel is expensive and heavy. I'd never light the burner and let it heat up or whatever. When I light the burner, I start making use of the heat. I've been using an Evernew titanium burner with a modified Trangia simmer ring. Nothing wrong with the Trangia burner though. You can carry fuel in it. And save the unburned fuel in it. So that partly justifies the weight. Especially if you don't need to carry extra fuel. (Like an overnighter.) I use denatured alcohol but I think most backpackers in the USA buy the yellow bottles of "Heet" because it's sold at just about every gas station. Personally, I think the Trangia is elegant and simple. I love to cook on it, or even to just heat water. I'm not a gram weenie so don't have a problem with the weight. Hiking alone, my only problem with it is the bulk.
Great stoves... got given mine at 16 years old. I'm 41 now and it's still as good as new!!!!
The lid is sealed to enable you to leave fuel in the burner when your finished using it that's why the lid screws on, but like anything the tricks are learnt from using something a lot, great vid
When I go out camping with my dad he always brings the gasol burner for the Trangia stove. He only uses the alcohol burner in case something would happen to the gasol burner or if we would run out of methane.
What is the best aspect of this stove is how sturdy it is when you need to use it in rough and windy conditions. In Sweden we call it a "storm kitchen" because of it's reliability. I mean sure, it wouldn't handle a literal storm, but I guess you get the point.
Never use the lid to put the burner out. You'll ruin the o-ring seal. Use the closed simmer ring.
Cure your pan and pots with good lard or oil before you start cooking with them.
Hi, I cured only the pan (non-stick) but used the big pot (Duossal) right after cleaning it once with water. Why is it important to cure the pots? Do they get damaged if not done?
@@lartschtube the natural chemicals in the food stuff will seal the surface changing the way it functions
@@stephendehart lol cure a non stick pan lol
@@andersnrregren9087 never use non-stick pans or pots that coating comes off in the food and is a known carcinogen.
@@stephendehart i dont use non stick but i mean you can not cure or seson a non stick
When I was younger I was all about boil time etc. Now, as the years have knocked the edges off my naivety I absolutely love the benifits of the Trangia system. It takes a little longer to boil but it does it silently and never, ever breaks. As a designer there is something quite special about it. I enjoy using mine everytime, whether I'm up a mountain or in my back garden.
Hi mate I use the simmer ring to put out the flame, their is a rubber o ring in the lid, might melt. Metho is the best to use, other fuels can get out of hand and smell.
If you want to clean the stain of the kettle from the flame. I use white vinegar and detergent with a scourer.
I like what your doing and the direction the channel is heading 👍
They recommend adding 10% water to the meths which stops it blacking the pots.
Your putting out the flame it's not going to melt if your not an idiot and leave it there to melt.
@@AndysEastCoastAdventures Denatured alcohol, and yellow bottle heet fuel makes no soot. :)
The first time I saw one of these kits was in Antarctica in late 1984.
Lots of advantages ; not the least is fuel safety
Scandi tips here: 27 is the smallest 1-2 person version, small and efficient. I still have mine from the early seventies.. and use the simmer ring. One preminum quality by using the alcohol system is that is can be used in heights, I have cooked at the top of Mount Kenya at 4800 meters, no problem. Try that with gas, some will lose the pressure. Add a small amount of water to avoid blackenes pots.
And always remember - the first pancake is alway a mess, it goes directly down the gullet, next ones turn out better...
Hi mark,
I love my trangia stove and have used for many years, I do have a couple of points to clarify for your viewers.
USE only (in Australia) Methylated Spirits or Methanol as fuel, DO NOT use Shellite or Petrol (Unleaded) as these will burn too hot and melt the burner.
Use a closed simmer to snuff out the flame, and there’s no problems carrying the unused fuel in the burner if the o-ring is in good order.
Ramble 2016
Hi Peter. Any particular brand or type of Methylated Spirits to use here in Australia?? Cheers
@@badhabitz69 hi, sorry I just saw the post. In Australia I think there's only 1 manufacturer, Diggers. Around the $4 per litre is the normal price. Very easy to find.
Did a lot of snow & ice climbing as a youth before moving to AUS, Trangia Stoves were always the stove that worked. Since then I've used them a lot bicycle touring. Impervious to wind, rain or cold. Guaranteed to work, no jets to block didn't blow out. We used to leave the fuel in the burner, I never had the rubber ring leak. As Annie White said the Trangia fuel bottle works a treat. But we used to use an Optimus petrol stove most of the time. I had a small aluminum one that fitted into a rucksack which they don't make anymore and a heavy brass one in the boot of the car.
You can buy a cheap Chinese copy of the Trangia but the one I bought didn't have a simmer ring. I use that one to boil water and the real one to cook on. You get used to the simmer ring.
Keep practicing & we'll see you on Master Chef Mark
Nature Boy not saying you must be doing something wrong but I don't know anyone who has had a problem using a trangia in the wind. I've had my trangia set for over 35 years and never ever had a problem.
Nature Boy being windproof is like the entire point of a trangia lol
I've used trangia all over the world up mountains and in both Antarctica and Norway unlike gas it has never let me down, especially if you use the Swedish army fuel bottle and keep them close to your body.
Nature Boy How wrong can you be , the trangia is totaly windproof !!!!!! you are doing sure something wrong .
People think they're expensive but they literally last forever, that's good value. Mine was new in the seventies, and still going strong. What's that per year lol
And they aren't that expensive - UK prices I can get the hard anodised for £80. That's a stove, two pots, a frypan and a kettle. The headline number may be higher than a cheap gas burner, but if at altitude you mainly need liquid fuel. An MSR Whisperlite alone is more than the full set. Offer put the MSR a little over £100!
You’ll get the hang of it. Have successfully made many pancakes on the Trangia. System can’t be beat for pot stability and wind resistance. Also, everything will be cool by the time you’ve eaten the food.
Useful tip for the whipper snapper, mix the metho with water, up to about 10% water, this cools the flame and makes cleaning the underside of the pots much easier. also use the Trangia fuel bottle in case you fill it back up before it has cooled you wont create a fire storm....trust me on this!!!
Yes the simmer ring will loosen up, you just need to use it :)
I got my Trangia about 30 years ago and it still works like brand new, you cant break these things.
P.s. the big holes in the side of the base unit are to allow for an adapter for a gas burner, you can convert these to run on gas
Bevan Bear yep, add about a bottle cap of water and it reduces the soot to almost nothing's
Here in Mexico its nearly impossible to buy something like this, but i made one myself with a couple of soda cans and it really works!! how cool is that...
Got my first Trangia (One man) for my 18th birthday - I just turned 53 and it's still working! The only thing that goes on them are the O rings (About a fiver for two) and i still have one left from the pair I bought ten years ago! Make sure you keep the yellow bag because the brass onto aluminium can rot through the pan or kettle. Over the years I have bought all sorts of fancy and expensive stoves but keep going back to my Trangias (They are much cheaper in Europe). My latest buy is a converter to use it with disposable gas bottles which make life much easier but the principle is the same. Once you get used to it, the simmer ring is great - all in all a winning combination. Great vid, keep em coming!
I’ve had my Trangia for 27years and is my favourite stove. Brilliant thought out kit. Very funny video
Had my Trangia since 1984
Fits in Pania with 1600 mil metho tank no problem
Loved that you showed actually learning its quirks. The flame takes a while to get to full strength. They do a winter preheated for it that gets it to full pelt much faster... Makes it easier to gauge what your cooking on
You're awesome. Nothing beats a little honesty! Thanks for posting this.
I have a 27 Duossal ( aluminum/ stainless steel) model and I’m very happy with it.
you can't beat good old Trangia stoves, i had one about 30 years ago and it looks like its never changed over the years. i wish i still had it.
Maybe a few years late but I watched your video yesterday, I too had problems lifting the simmer ring out and solved it by fitting a small nut and bolt through the rivet that it pivots on. It faces up about 10mm and makes it easy to hold with tongs or a multitool.
I personally really enjoy the Trangia. It is a very old, safe and robustly designed outdoors kitchen. Swedish military has been using it for ages. I think it's a matter of getting used to. And I definitely think pancakes is one of the hardest things to cook on it because it is so crucial to get the heat dispersal right. If you look at trangias own recepies they have things like chili con carne, lental & carrot stew, salmon casseroll etc. Efficient nutritious meals for the outdoors. in these recepies you basically fry onion, potatoes on the pan. which is a far easier task. ;)
I love my trangia. They seem expensive but they last for ever if you look after them. Not only do you get an excellent cook system you also get 2 pots a fry pan and a kettle all of which folds into a very compact space. Excellent product.
My best way of dealing with a raging hot spot in the center like that is to make small pancakes around the outside of it. 3 little palm size cakes that miss the hotspot usually works better for me than trying to battle with a big cake cooking unevenly. Its a shortcoming of the pan thickness, mostly.
Your ceramic screen idea is genius.
Good to see a video of trials and tribulations. Would be interested to see a follow up how you get on with the stove now.
Gday Mark, I have been using the old army model Trangia for yonks. That model has enough room to carry spare fuel bottle and a ferro rod to light it. It lights first strike every time and you don't have to search for the matches, or worry about striking a light in the rain. When you put it out, take the O-ring out of the cap before dropping it on top, you will melt the o-ring otherwise after the thing has been running a while. After it has cooled I put the O-ring back in I leave the metho in it and it just stays in there until the next time I use it, it has never been a problem.
Wiggle the lid of the simmer ring and it will losen up in the rivet. You can also help it with a few punched groves from the outside to sit more tightly.
Have used one for decades. Yes they are slightly slower than gas, but what's the hurry? isn't going outdoors about slowing down? Best thing about a Trangia is how well they cook in strong winds, even rain and snow. Love em!!
Barry Lyon you are so right, what’s the hurry when you have the beauty of nature around you.
Having used both the disposable gas bottles and trangia stoves over the last 20 years, I would definitely go with the gas bottles. Lower price and much better control over the cooking process is by far the bigger advantage. I also find the gas much safer to use in terms of less burns to my hands..... 🙂
you can find gas burner for trangia stoves,best of both world.
from experience since 1980, after you start using Trangia you will only use it. first no parts to lose! water boiling is fine - not a metal melted. You will eventually crush the "O" ring: easy to get parts from hardware store - buy two. be sure to have heavy duty paper towels to separate your Teflon - keeps them from storage damage. I carry a second pot lifter - me! I have made pizza on a scout outing. I eat big on hikes. love my coffee. learned from fellow youtubers tonight to add 5% water to fuel bowl to cut down soot. I have gotten away from the early sets and mainly use WESTWIND as a lightweight set up. I boil water and cook with a wind screen from heavy foil. have fun I can get you some recipes.
Rick Timmons wow, I’m all for recipes, I camp a lot (for 40yrs steady) and love cooking in the woods after a good hike. Would love to see your recipes.
Great review. I agree with your idea that 2 and a half minutes means bugger all in the grand scheme of things. Especially while camping.
And that difference would be much smaller if you added a tealight to make the alcohol burn better.
Ive got the same kit for over 6 years and still going strong, its a great unit, but the only thing you need to take into consideration is the Pot Grabber. After a while the gripper part tends to scratch up the pots so it's best to use High Temp Silicon Liquid and dip the gripper part into it to stop the scratching of your pots. The product is similar to Liquid Electrical Tape. I spose you could also use that as well. Cheers from NSW.
AussieCamperman the nonstick still going strong?
Great review and i have learnt one very important thing: Invest in a small non stick pan before my motorcycle trip next year. Thank you
My thoughts exactly.
This is why I take a little non stick pan with me, then you don't get the problem that you are having, I have one of these also, they are brilliant little bits of kit, nice video as well mate.
Hi Mark, as others have said careful with using the lid to snuff the flame you could melt the O ring inside the lid. That O ring means you can carry the burner fully fueled it won't leak. You will really appreciate the benefit of the Trangia on one of those chilly Bendigo winters mornings when your Butane burner won't have enough vapour pressure in the can to burn properly. The Trangia runs just the same. You really don't need to pre warm it either, you may get a bit of extra soot on the pans but it's easy to clean off. They are great little cookers with a bit of practise you get the hang of how much simmer ring to use and how much water to add to the fuel to cool the flame slightly.
Ray.
Got mine from a car boot sale. Paid around £5 !!! You can loosen the simmer ring lid by wriggling it about. Eventually it will get loose enough to rotate using one hand.
you can use de panholder to pick the simmer ring off the flame and open or close it when it's hot
Opps! The fry pan has a clear plastic sheet that you are not supposed to throw away. You keep it to protect the fry pan finish after you pack up. Just like the yellow bag is kept. Also, it is recommended that you either use the Trangia fuel bottle, Vargo, or other container that gives you better flow control when you fill the burner.
If you are going to compare the Trangia to other cook systems, the real utility of Trangia is not necessarily the alcohol burner. In addition to all the parts nesting together, the built-in windshield gives the Trangia a substantial advantage over other stoves. So much heat (and therefore fuel) is lost due to even the slightest wind. Most windscreens are clumsy add-on features that get in the way of your cooking. In contrast, the Trangia windscreen system is convenient and efficient. For any cook system, you have to carry a burner, fuel, windscreen, and pots/pans. The Trangia incorporates all these items in one package that is smaller/lighter than carrying everything separately.
Regarding your comment that fuel for the Trangia is difficult to source on the trail, this is just not true. HEET is available at any auto parts store just as Everclear is available at any liquor store. Hardware stores in towns along the Appalachian Trail carry mineral spirits and Marine supply stores carry fuel for marine stoves. I had no problem resupplying my Trangia on the Appalachian Trail or the 2,600 mile Pacific Crest Trail.
Trangia needs to focus future development on three areas:
First, replacing the current simmer ring design with something more reliable and functionable in order to produce a smaller flame. I'm currently working on a DIY solution suggested by a UA-camr: I bought a second lid (not a simmer ring), remove the rubber ring, cut a very narrow slot in the middle of the lid through which is inserted a small wick from a oil lantern.Do not screw the lid down tight but leave it somewhat loose so the stove does not pressurize. I'm hoping that it will produce a small consistent flame for simmering. If I need a bit larger flame, I can pull the wick higher.
Second, a heat deflector plate to insert over the burner to eliminate hot spots when using the fry pan.
Lastly, many US states are banning the use of alcohol stoves because they don't have a shut-off feature and the fuel can be spilled if the stove is knocked over. A redesign of the alcohol burner to address these topics is needed if they want alcohol stoves to remain relevant in the market. Trangia and Firebox both sell a canister attachment that works well with the Trangia cook system.
When I make pancake's, I wait a little longer before flipping them. I wait til the bubbles in the middle are almost solid. Also, with that small spatula, you might try making your pancakes slightly smaller, and cooking one more of them. I must say, I watched the entire video and I enjoyed watching it.
Good Onya mate and good idea! :-)
I love the way you Aussies speak. Good Onya too mate. Pardon my trying to sound Australian. Thanks for your reply.
Eric Coovert Eric. It’s ‘pancakes’ (plural), not ‘pancake’s’ (that’s possessive).
I really liked the ceramic heat shield you used. That's a fantastic idea to regulate and diffuse the heat for cooking (vs full on for boiling water). The disk adds to the degree of control that the simmer ring can't do alone. This is the best idea I have ever seen for alcohol stove cooking.
I also thought your pancakes were too large for the spatula and pan, so you should make them smaller so they turn easier, or use a larger, regular sized spatula. Basically, just match the pancakes to the tool or vice versa, for the best results.
Thanks for the informative video. The disk looks homemade. Is it? If so, how did you make it?
Awesome vid again Mark. I see gauze mat came in handy again. One easy fix for ease of adjusting the simmer ring is drill out the small rivet holding the two pieces of simmer ring (choke and ring). then replace with a small loose fitting rivet or small bolt/screw with an interference nut. Don't use nylok nuts for obvious reasons. Then all it takes is moving the choke even whilst any of the pots are on top with your handle or even a stick.
Another is to make the two items fit together one way with a ding in the side, stops it sliding around.
the rivet on the simmer ring is a bit to tight , i played with it a while by turning it constantly , now it's worked in and easy to turn , try it ,it helps.
1. use the other side of the lid to put the flame out, no chance of ruining the o-ring doing it that way, 2. the pancakes were cooking too fast in the middle becuase you had the heat too high, i learned from experience, 3. you do amazing reviews, i thumbs up and subscribes, please continue making videos i enjoy them
hey mark the gas burner addition is sweet, takes it to a whole new level, check it out. The large hole in the base of your stove is for the gas burner hose and bottle attachment...cheers love your work
hey mark you can also get a $5 attachment off ebay for the cheaper gas cartridges like the ones you use....cheers
www.gooutdoors.co.uk/trangia-trangia-camping-stove-p141015
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Picnic-Burner-Cartridge-Gas-Fuel-Canister-Stove-Cans-Adapter-Converter-Head-OZ-/132036042357?hash=item1ebdf61e75:g:iIoAAOSw-0xYU4Vw
No worries mate! Thanks :-)
Thanks Kent for that info... looks great! :-)
Just remember hard anodised doesn't necessarily mean non stick. It's just less liable to scratch. The pan will still need to be seared just like a wok. Trangias are without doubt the safest of all hiking stove systems and definitely the quietist.. The Triangle is a lovely lightweight alternative.
I have the model 25 and would highly recommend it. I use it canoeing and motorcycle trips and all around camping. I only use the fry pan and the 1.75 L Pot, I put my bowls and utensils right inside the cook kit. It Cooks is fast as I can..... lol! It is very stable and works well in the Wind. Only if I was backpacking would I look for something lighter.....
James Pearson I too have the model 25... love the stability and solidness of it all.
I know some say.. just make your own burner.. but those would never last me the way I pack / shove things about. The Trangia burner just takes a beating... so ..worth the pease of mind for me.
Actually, I did part of the AT a few years back, (maybe more than a few now) but I used an alcohol stove and had no problem finding Metho Alcohol (Automotive shops sell something called HEAT and it's a fuel drier, or Methylated Alcohol), Cheap and easy to carry.
Nice video man iv had one for years use it for hill walking and motorcycle trips and got the gas burner for it now as well works a treat keep yourself rubber side up man 😉👍👌
Thanks for doing this and showing all the mistakes. That is super helpful. I'm off to watch your tips video about this stove. Cheers!
Good video! My favorite stove that I have been using for years is the MSR Dragonfly. It's small, light and compactable and easy to setup in seconds. It can use any liquid fuel you want, petrol, airplane fuel, alcohol, kerosene even starter fluid or injector cleaner. It has an adjuster knob for flame control to do simmering. Has a wide base to set pots on without fear of knocking them off. The flame looks just like a burner on a kitchen stove. Only drawback is that it can be loud when turned all the way up. Sounds like a small jet engine.
Good bit of kit the Trangia, I thought about the gas type but the idea of carrying 2 cans makes less sense, I use a 500 ml Trangia bottle to carry the meths and it is not an issue, even comes with a clever tap so you can fill the burner easier.
Handy little tip in the booklet about add a little water to the meths to prevent the soot from marking the bottom of the pans.
But each to his own I guess, that's why we own the best Dual sport- Adventure bike and others think they do.
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DR rules 😄😄😄
Hey Mark, with the simmer ring you can use your pot grabber to close it down. What I do is grab it by the top piece first and flip it upside down then re-grab the ring by the brass cap and you can leverage the slider on the ground or a log or whatever and you can drop it back on the burner. Or you can grab a stick and your pot grabber and hold the ring down and turn the slider with a stick. Once you do it a couple times it becomes less fiddly. I love the Trangia. I do recommend oil instead of butter though, butter burns easily and seems to make your pancakes or flapjacks burn easier. Good luck, love your videos
Simmer ring can be locked with two set screws.
Drill opposing holes in the shield, and use two long screws to lock the ring from spinning before lighting. Then use your knife or a stick to move the damper about while burning. It also locks the burner from wiggling.
My favorite campstove with my wife. It has a proper shaped kettle and she likes tea. I like how everything nests into a proper kit.
I tend to control fry heat just as I do on a campfire. I heat the pan then pull it off to cook, then reheat the pan holding it at the tip of the blue flame. I like a crêpe pan as my camp fryer. Sturdy, thick steel, nearly flat, well seasoned.
Oh I live 5 miles off the Appalachian Trail in America. There are supply points about every days walk usually within a mile or three (5km) off the trail, but you are right. High proof alcohol for your stove is a much a problem as buying butane. However you can get a lot more BTU of heat (days of use) in a bottle of liquid fuel as in the same size can of butane. Weight is higher though.
Hahaha watching you stuff up the pancakes was bloody hilarious ...keep up the fantastic work👍
Hi Mark. You should season your pans with oil until it smoked then wipe out. Then pour salt and bring to heat. Then wipe out. Avoid washing, if it is washed for reason of cooking other dish’s, just season again, makes it nonstick for pancakes and crepes, hope this helps, Martin Brown (chef)
Very enjoyable video. I have had my Trangier for years and take it four wheel driving and dinghy cruising. Simply a great, well built and bullet proof bit of kit. I carry a spare o ring and also some of that non slip cloth they sell in camping stores to pack all the bits together. I simply cut it to size and it protects everything. I like the idea of the diffuser. I will be sourcing one as soon as possible. I just use metho with 10% water to reduce carbon on the bottom of everything.
20:30 Trangia won't thank me for this but there is a way, take the simmer ring, open fully then bend the point where it hinges on the rivet one way or the other very gently. This will tighten or loosen the movement of the cover, I have mine set to have no resistance, then a tap or push with the leatherman gives me plenty of quick adjustment. Happy trails dude.
Hi mate.
The placcy bag is vital to stop corrosion to the ally from the brass burner. Never ever store when even slightly damp either - always dry properly otherwise corrosion will happen :(
I have had mine for about 30 years now and it is still the best camp stove I have used.
Best addition is a gas converter to use to be a bit faster or when it is really cold otherwise the meths burner is just great.
No worries about storing some meths in the burner so long as the O ring is good.
Add a teaspoon of water to the almost full burner of meths to cut down on the soot produced.
Keep up the good work buddy!
Thanks Mark, IMO one of your best videos yet. I've been using a Trangia burner for about 6 years on or off (I also use wood burners, gas stoves as well as cooking over camp fires) and it is a case of 'horses for courses'. Using a meths stove does take 'practise' and will get easier/ more efficient as you 'learn' more. The 'singed eyebrows' moment with the gas burner was 'classic Mark' PMSL!! Keep it up mate you're doing brilliantly. - Just a couple of pointers when using the Trangia - Don't use the lid to snuff it out (rubber O ring) use the simmer ring. On cold nights sleep with the burner full of meths in your sleeping bag to keep the meths warm - much faster time to bloom in the morning. Oh and try not to run the burner dry, it isn't good for the burner and can lead to cracks (I've always carried mine full of meths and it has never leaked). Once you get use to simmer ring you can put it onto the burner without removing the windshield, and yes the simmer ring will loosed up with use so you can push it closed with a stick - Cheers Steve
That's the reason I never cook pancakes whilst camping . . . on any type of cookware! But put bacon in that frypan and it's a different story ☺You can easily pour unused fuel back into a small wide neck Nalgene bottle, just pour slowly and steadily. Once you get used to the simmer ring it's great, a few more cooks should see you right. You also didn't mention the main reason I love Trangia cooking, the silence . . . gas burners can be very intrusive in nature . . . brewing up or cooking in peace and quiet shouldn't be underestimated, especially if you're solo.
Glad you like it, once you get used to them they really are hard to beat and why they have so many fans. Reliable, simple, versatile and pretty much bomb proof, but any part is easily replaced should you damage it. Folks hand Trangia sets onto their children.
Thanks for sharing, really love your videos, always informative and honest as well as amusing. The perfect balance.
Love my Trangia! You can burn Heet (the fuel additive in the yellow bottle) and can find it at pretty much any gas station. The bottles it comes in are cheap and they don't leak. The coolest thing about using alcohol instead of white gas or regular gas is that alcohol doesn't stink like bloody hell when you spill it. It evaporates quickly and doesn't leave a flammable oily residue behind. You also don't have to buy special fuel bottles, although Trangia makes a cool one. As long as you test the bottle for compatibility with alcohol you should be fine. I wish they would make the cook set and windscreen components out of titanium to lighten the kit up a bit more. There are other options for alcohol cook sets but Trangia has been doing it for years.
I love that screen you put on it. Where can I buy one?
It's funny that you talk about cold weather use as it's one of the challenges with alcohol systems. There are ways to make it work but extreme cold is had on alcohol burners.
You can get them online!
I think Aluminium is actually lighter than Titanium.
Put a little slurp of water in the metho stops all the blackness on the pots. The little white spoon you get with a rice cooker makes a great spatula. Cut a bit off the handle so it fits inside.
Most easy to understand and comprehensive review of a Tranagia alc stove I've seen :)
Thanks heaps mate and I appreciate the comment! :-)
I know I'm only 3 years later to this video but I have some advice if you haven't worked it out already. For pancakes, close that sooner ring down to a bit more than half for pancakes. The windscreens collect hear like crazy and you'd think it's gone nuclear. Also, use oil with your butter, it's way more effective. Don't be so impatient, bro! It should take about 10 minutes per side on that thing. These are great kits and I use it everywhere at about 4/5 times a month. Ditch that screen. You won't need it if you close the simmer time down.
Great video and its great to see such a natural take on the stove. I use nothing else when out camping and my traingia has never let me down. It does take a little practice but once you have it cracked it is a fantastically efficient cooking system. Backpacking I use the burner and a simple stand and that gets me everything I want while your review system is more for the camping site style of camping. Methylated spirit with a 10% water mix will reduce the sooting up of any utensil. Thanks again...
Trangia is my Go To kit. Imho well worth the investment. YES.. a very stable unit. Good in windy situations.too.
I use a non stick hard anodized skillet and have no problems cooking pan cakes with the trangia stove without the simmer ring. Maybe because the skillet is thicker metal.
You should try to use gas burner with Trangia. Its cleaner and you get more control. And if you planning to use it in longer trips . A multi fuel burner is the way to go.
I loved this video and thanks 🙏 for the info .I will put a ceramic tile with 5 holes to spread the fire.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for a great review. I am a big fan of the Trangia kit. I have been using a Trangia burner for ages, though have never had the whole cook system. I do plan to buy the same one very soon, the 27-8, it will suit my needs well.
I have a few comments,
firstly if you use the screw lid to snuff the flame you are slightly damaging the O'ring each time. Better to use the closed simmer ring to snuff the flame.
I think it's better to keep your burner empty when you are not using it, I kept some meths in the burner for a while and the O'ring got 'sticky'. Then one day I opened up the burner, lit it, without paying attention, and then noticed thick black smoke. The 'sticky' O'ring stuck to the burner and was burning. So I had to buy a new O'ring.
Secondly yes the simmer ring is fiddly, however, yes, it will loosen up over time. If you have some of the 'spring' type cooking tongs in your cook kit it is easy to hold the simmer ring base with tongs and use a bit of stick, a knife, whatever, to move the simmer plate.
If you have a problem with soot, add a small amount of water to your meths, the trangia website says no more than 15% water, though I would not go more than 10%. Easier for my head to calculate, and I don't think there is any more benefit.
Thank you again for another great video. Best wishes.
Tony M.
Thanks for a nice video, I’m learning how to get better at using the Trangia as well, the comments about how to fix the mistakes were useful and so were the tips, except for some rude keyboard warriors in the comments, I found this very helpful. Thanks
I used a couple of dog food tins for my burner on last years border run - worked fine (august/cold). 200 bucks is a lot for a couple of pots and a tin grabber. Google "supercat stove" make your own burner and shield/simmer ring then hit up the op shop for some pots and wotnot that work. Break down the alcohol down into little "pop top" juice bottles that the kids like saves carting a litre around.
thanks for the vid, quality viewing as always.
You can get the adapter for about $8 on eBay. Easier to use than metho. Standard criteria for all camping equipment. Must be able to to be used, setup, in the dark when pissed with no dramas. Cheers Steve.
Trying to Light an alcohol burner in the Antarctic is going to be incredibly difficult
You're right about time when you're camping ....I take mine and set it up and start boiling water and while that's going I then set up my tent.... when I'm finished with my tent and my sleeping bag arrangement ...I come back and the water is just about boiling
Once you have snuffed out the burner let it cool for 10 minutes or so while you're eating supper then once it's cool you can replace the lid with the O-ring seal and your fuel will be contained for your next meal
those kettles are great. I have two that are anodized (optimus). Love them
Hey if nobody told you yet you want to use the snuffing ring to extinguish the flame not the cap because the cap has an o-ring that can melt other than that great video thx
+Dan Moreno Yeah they have mate, but thanks! :-)
Thats pretty good going considering the pan is so light weight and is not non stick. I guess if you could get the non stick version if you were worried about food sticking. But then you lose the robustness. Good video.
Started like 90years ago and still the best seling alcohol stove, and as a nature lover i think you need to ask your self where do you fuel come from. Gas is most likely from drilling or fragging but alcohol can come from alot of things but non as toxic as gas
Great video as ever Mark. Check out the Trangia Gas Burner or Multi-Fuel kit. Gives you all the convenience of gas canister fuel and the Trangia stove combined.
use the close the lid to save the fuel in the burner for next break ;)
Have used a Trangia 27 hiking and motorbike travelling for more than ten years. Not all the bells and whistles but with a decent fuel storage bottle (Trangia is good) they are bulletproof. Just don't knock over a burning stove...
+Matthew Broad Great Stuff mate and LOL... will try not to! :-)
You can just put the lid on and close it tight after it's cooled down. You don't have to pour out there extra fuel. The lid has an O ring and the Trangia is designed to hold fuel for transport.
In the alcohol stove videos I have seen, they only use a small amount of fuel, so the center yellow flame does not happen, and only the blue ring of flame occurs. I suspect the results would be better that way. BTW, wait until the batter sets on the top before you flip.
I know the frying pan came with a round sheet of plastic, keep that it protects the non stick. I cut one out of a flexible cutting board, and then I have a cutting board too.
Mate you can leave the fuel in and screw the top down, it as a rubber seal inside so you don't have to pore out the meths. Only use the simmer lid to snuff it out.
It's not buggered mate your roughing it love the reviews and all your vids bro keep em coming 👍
Glad you did a review on this item. Now I can see that it is just way too fiddly to bother with (and too expensive).
I like to do motorcycle camping trips, like you do, and I've found that it's very hard to beat the convenience of a gas bottle and burner!
But, I also like the little wood burners too.
Making pancakes is not that easy, you need a lot of butter and a fresh 'dough'. Even in the kitchen :) Third time was a success! I'm impressed!
Thanks for another great video.
I tested with my cheap knockoff the other day, and it took 15ml to cook 1 cup of 8 degree celsius (46 degree Farenheit) water. So to make things easy, i put a big 20ml syringe in the kettle together with the burner and the handle. That way i dont need to pay too much attention to it, and know that it is done cooking when it has burnt out. Although... I did this test inside, and if im outside in windy conditions, it will use more fuel (my cooking system is not as nice as that Trangia set, so wind will affect it a lot more)... I gotta get a real Trangia...
Purchased the gas burner for my trangia it is awsome. You can use an adapter to use the cheap butane cans directly to the trangia then use the propane canister if it is under zero as straight butane will freeze up hope this helps enjoy. Cheers Steve.
Considering the challenge with flame size how would you compare this stove setup with the little fire box stoves you've tested? But I'm with you, the convenience and adjustment of a gas stove is hard to beat.
Cleaner and easier than a firebox! But I do like the firebox :-)
Biker Bits I have both, if I run out of alcohol or Heet, I can always find twigs.
you dont need to empty the stove bro, put it out with simmer ring and the cap has a seal in it so you can keep fuel in the stove. nice vid as always
Thanks for this review ..really helped me ...I purchased the 27-2ul and I love it.
Solution: the heat is way too high. You must reduce the heat (simmer ring). Once the heat is lowered, don’t mess with the cakes; let them cook. A lower heat will stop the surface of the pancakes from burning AND cook the inside of the cakes. Good luck and happy eating...
Just bought the set!! Love ur vid m8. Thanx
I'm able to use the lid to save the fuel in the trangia. I never dump it. Only put the fire out with the simmer ring. save the lid from heat because of the rubber seal which keeps it from leaking.
Nice review. I will go to buy a non stick fry pan with HA pot. 👍
Absolutely loved your review :-) Big thanks for taking the time &effort to share*
10 % water in the meth sorts out the soot. (Old Swedish trick.The steam blocks the soot - try it!) The price is a bit steep but only like 25% higher than in Sweden directly from Trangia..(which is not the cheapest outlet..)
Watching a real flame rather than a gas burn is decent. A bit primeavaI maybe. I think what your trying to get across is the simplicity of it. No moving parts to go wrong, easy to see how much fuel you have left plus you still see people using trangia stuff they bought 50yrs ago!! I treated myself to this set recently and it really is the best & simplest cookset out their. I use a mini version of it if I'm going mountain hiking or just lightweight and will use this set for normal camp operations for better cooking potential. I don't bother to wait for the flame to start, just light it and bung the kettle on. It's a shame to waste the heat in the meantime.
Andy's East Coast Adventures the mini is great for solo camping and if you want to bring something bigger just in case, it fits perfectly inside the Zebra billy pot will extra room for utensils etc, I include my Firebox Nano inside and an extra Trangia, all neatly packed inside the Zebra, one vessel, lots of options.
Great Review Mark And Thanks For Sharing My Friend!
Although I like my anodized liter pots for most things, I'd leave my hard anodized fry pan home and take my non-stick pan.
I've read you can season them like a cast iron skillet but it didn't seem to work for me. I may try again some day.
Personally, if frying pancakes, I'd get the flame much lower and be prepared to (if necessary) hold the pan up and perhaps make a circular motion to heat the bottom of the pan more evenly.
I'd let the top start to set a bit more. Enough that it's less likely to tear while flipping. (If the bottom is starting to burn before it's firm enough to flip, you've got too much heat.)
And if using anodized, I might even consider adding a bit more oil before or while flipping to avoid flipping the top onto a dry surface. (Although I could probably get by with it with my non-stick.)
I've heard the anodized called "non-stick" but... you won't hear it from me. :)
Also, to me at least (I'm a tightwad), fuel is expensive and heavy. I'd never light the burner and let it heat up or whatever. When I light the burner, I start making use of the heat.
I've been using an Evernew titanium burner with a modified Trangia simmer ring.
Nothing wrong with the Trangia burner though. You can carry fuel in it. And save the unburned fuel in it. So that partly justifies the weight. Especially if you don't need to carry extra fuel. (Like an overnighter.)
I use denatured alcohol but I think most backpackers in the USA buy the yellow bottles of "Heet" because it's sold at just about every gas station.
Personally, I think the Trangia is elegant and simple. I love to cook on it, or even to just heat water. I'm not a gram weenie so don't have a problem with the weight. Hiking alone, my only problem with it is the bulk.