Can Hector Beat EVERY Class In Fire Emblem?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- I used FE Builder to make a gauntlet map to test gba fire emblem characters against every other class in the game. This installment features Hector as our champion, and we can compare his performance against Roy and Lilina, and all the future units we will test in the gauntlet.
Do you think any character will be able to beat the child? Who's got the best chance? 😅
Depends if Manakete are allowed to compete, really
I'd like to see Rutger go at it, since he's quite the boss killer in Binding Blade
@@dezel536 Speaking of. Miredy/Zeiss should have a shot too.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Lvl 20 Myrrh would destroy this challenge lol
@@briancaro196 A child for a child, equivalent exchange
C'mon, Give Ephraim his shot. He'll definitely beat the gauntlet, for he doesn't pick fights he can't win.
Maybe that's the reason he isn;t in here. He doesný pick fight he can't win.
I second this, bring in the crown prince of Renais, let him sweep the whole gauntlet.
If he can attack a whole castle with 4 guys, he'd happily take in the gauntlet solo :P
@@BadAtFireEmblem If im not mistaken he also 2 man the grado capital ( assume you go erika route)
I wonder if god Seth would sweep the gauntlet it be an interesting take
The little girl deserves a name.
My vote is Deathica.
First come first served, her name is now Deathica 🤣
@@BadAtFireEmblem I would argue for Morticia, since that is an actual name, but alas.....
my favorite part about hector is his character development, it doesn't get talked about enough honestly.
What's your favourite part of his development?
@@BadAtFireEmblem I have to say either his realization that he could've been looking in a mirror during the Linus 2 fight or his handling of his brother's death.
Agreed that’s why I love hector mode so much
@@hadoukenfighter very good way of putting it actually
Attaboy, Hector!
Ephraim is honestly the only other lord I think has a shot of clearing this. Though I'm curious to see how Lyn does as well.
This series is a lot of fun, as is everything you've been putting out! Great work!
Yeah Lyn and Hector are unbeatable as a power couple.
I think Eirika would actually do better than Lyn normally but I think the Mani Katti is better than the rapier so that run may be better.
Cheers for the support 😊 Lyn will get her chance not too far in the future, but I'm not sure she'll do great 😅
@@BadAtFireEmblem Believe!
@@BadAtFireEmblem for me big problem with the challenge is iron weapons lol they aren't at their best if both allies and enemies had say silver it'd be more true to endgame o.o
I just remembered that Guinivere is playable through fe6's trial maps so I think it would be pretty cool to see her give the gauntlet a try.
Seeing how Guinivere is a promoted sage, she would breeze through the lot. If one Regresses her however to a mage, she might look rather similar to Lilina since she is very frail physically with only higher speed to show for it. If ever a Binding Blade Remake comes out, I would love If they make Guinivere playable with her own lord class.
Very surprised to see Hector not only kill the mage with 5 res but also onerounding it instead of exploding himself
Even the classes he's supposed to struggle with, he still dominates
Epharim is the perfect next unit to run. First lance and sacred stones unit to run
Ayyy I'm in the video let's goooo
Edit: I think comparing Raven and Cormag back to back would be an interesting comparison with their equal growth rates on two of the stronger physical classes.
Aside from Hector, Ephraim is the other lord I thought would stand a chance here, and I'd really love to see him give it a shot next.
I think you should put a third and fourth column for the characters that clear it for how low they get the child unit. That would be a good way to rank the ones on that tier.
I probably won't add more columns but any units with the same score will be ordered using that system, definitely
Glad you did the wolf beil run, the weapons typically represent the characters.
ROSS! (Pre-promoted to either fighter or pirate though. I want to see my boy put in work)
:marth with his full powered falchion down the line:
"as a vulnerary, you are, replaceable. Farewell" :full heals with falchion.:
I’d love to see Gerik or Ross! I don’t think either of them would clear it but it’s be fun to see how far they can get:
Ross is MY BOY
00:18 Hey that's me!
Looks like I very much underestimated Hector, still I knew that if someone could it was him, the mages did give him a lot of trouble as I expected also if he didn't have triangle advantage against the Wyvern Knight he surely would've died there but came thru with the double dodge, was pretty fun to watch.
My boi is an absolute beast 😂
I'd like to see Miledy. I think she'd get very far
THE HECOTR PIC AT THE END??
HELLOO SAILOR
Roy's our boy!(for getting murdered halfway through the challenge)
i forgot that this was about gba fire emblem, and thought to myself, that masternight lachesis would have sureley wiped the floor with everyone on this map
4:53 Hector ended the cavalier with 22 HP, the next one was the knight and although it deals 0 damage, Hector ends that combat with 17 HP. What damages him in between?
I misclicked at one point so to be fair to hector I went back to a save state a few enemies back, so he took an extra hit at some point
Funny that the Uber Spear weighs down the demon villager girl enough to only have 15 AS which isn’t enough to double Hector’s 12 Spd.
Ok, we need to see lyn and eliwood get outclassed by hector once and for all
I wanna see how much Lyn will fare, she'll either clear it or die to the first lance that hits her.
My money is on the second option 😂
Lyn has an average str of 11.6 at level 20 so she can't damage some of the tankier enemies with an Iron Sword.
The Mani Katti would definitely change things.
@@shadow_blaze2317 she's so unbelievably squishy, I don't think it even matters if she can deal damage, she still won't get very far before she's dead
Time to see how well Daddy Eliwood now, so both Parents and Child are ranked!
What about Roy with the binding blade? It WOULD let him counter two range so mages would get less chances to damage him as well
By that logic, Hector vs the Child, no healing , with Armads.
@@josephtessier9209 hell yeah, brother
@@josephtessier9209 wouldnt his speed be terrible tho? unpremoted he probably wouldnt have the con to carry armads, and take even more damage from mages.
Hector would be slowed down by 5, yeah. As for Roy, the binding blade actually only slows him down by 2
Still voting for Miledy to test her might 💪 BTW, can I suggest dropping the Vulneraries altogether and use a single stack of Elixirs? As all the tested characters would be LV 20 then most of them will have at least 25 Max HP, so it would make the healing process both less tedious and more strategic considering the coming round of combats in the next room. And finally, at the end of the day this is still RNG dependant, so reporting the average reached stage over 3 or 5 full rounds would be a little more objective than the current approach 😅. Best regards 😀
You could have saved a ton of HP by waiting and letting the axe users attack first, for a double up on the counterattacks and then the third hit on Player turn killing them (without missing like he did on the Fighter.)
I nominate sain, as every time I’ve used him he’s capped strength
Continuing to suggesr Franz. Although curious who out if the GBA cast could defeat *the child* . Maybe Athos?
Id Love to see Nino be given a shot! Prove that she is viable and reliable!
Now we gotta do all the FE7 lords: Do Lyn next.
Eliwood can be done when you want to pivot back to FE6, though you've already done Roy. Idk if Lyn has a child
OH MY GOSH THAT'S ME!?!?
new suggestion Erika and or Ephraim.
Lilina’s prf should be like the aircalibur that way we can see how she would do.
I dont know how stacked in favor of the gauntlet runners we want to make it but i do have a few suggestions.
1) in cases where the runner can defeat the enemy in three hits (and doubles), it is more optimal to let the enemy strike first, because then if you hit all three the enemy only got one chance to hit you.
2) if theres an issue about whether or not you should give the runner the chance to first strike then is there a way to set the enemy movements to 1? That was they can chase ranged attackers but you'll always be able to decide if you want first or second hit
Anyways i want to suggest Gonzales as the next runnee. Hes the only playable bandit we get so it would be nice to have him on the board early
I'm going to nominate Lowen, because he's one of the most interesting unit in the game. Is he bulky enough to win, or will his lack of offense hurts his progression?
i would love to see Erk or Nino give this a shot, personally.
As a recommendation, have the wyvern at the end drop an elixir. That way theres an even match up. I think anyone who makes it there is going to be low on health.
only problem with that is it might lead to the wyvern using it if they are low on HP, it would be better to make it drop a chest key and pick up an elixer instead.
@@MrMariosonicman ooh, good point!
And here I thought he'd be fighting special classes like the Magic Seal, Dark Druid and Fire Dragon toward the end.
It's just standard classes, that'd have to a separate special video 😅
pretty sure no standard class can beat the fire dragon 1v1
iirc he has like 120 health and hits for consistent 40 damage that can not miss and ignores defence, he kills every playable character in two hits.
i feel like a promoted version of this gauntlet with both the character and the enemys promoted lv 20 after the pref weapon run would be a great addition to this series
I will include promoted units, I'm just not sure what the best way to do it is yet
@@BadAtFireEmblem fair take your time
This is my first time watching so idk if you know this already but to fix the bugged ranged animations go to:
Advanced Editor -> Magic animations
And there you can assign any animation you want to the weapon, which by default is assigned to "None" (you might need to do a data expansion if it's not on the table)
You can also go directly to your weapon and click "edit magic animations" which will redirect you to the same menu
Hope this helps!
Febuilder advice is always appreciated because there's some weird stuff and I don't understand a lot of it.
But in this case I don't know what happened because the first video I did on Roy had the animations work normally 🤷♂️
@@BadAtFireEmblem Well, then that's weird. Did you change the weapon ID or something?
If not, I once had a similar problem with Gorgons, their animations suddenly stopped working just like in the video and the only way I managed to fix it was by using the function Febuilder has to compare the rom with a backup, and start replacing things until it got fixed. I never even knew why that specific byte was a problem lol
So if the problem persists, try using that. But in my experience the worst thing this bug can do is avoid triggering death quotes, so it doesn't matter much for the battles themselves
@@elnchou I'm not sure tbh. Sometimes febuilder is weird, sometimes it's my faults, sometimes I have no idea which one it is :P
@@BadAtFireEmblem Yeah, that's how it is sometimes, I'm not an expert either, just talking about what I've seen in some months of messing around with the thing haha
as long as it works we'll just have to accept it (and it may be like fire emblem itself in that sense...)
But nice video, I also want to see how Ephraim does eventually hehe
I mean that's just Hector things, dude is a sassy tank
I'd personally like to see Nino, Marisa with Shamshir, and Sue go at this with the caveat of getting to attack first like in this video.
Nice. I don't think anyone was surprised by this :-D
My vote is Raven. He helped carry my most recent run of FE7 and am curious how well he would do.
If not Raven, then I'd have to vote Lucius since I've never had a bad Lucius in all my FE7 runs.
Upvoting all Ross comments.
ROSS IS MY BOY
I am curious to see how you handle pre promotes, like if you will average their levels down and how you go about that. That and since everyone is unpromoted its a shame characters like l'arachel can't be done. I do love this series though, Ive been a sucker for the GBA era of Fe since I played it years ago. My goofy request is still Gonzales or Dozla. Gotta love goofy axe units. I hope your channel keeps growing and finds success!
Thanks a lot, appreciate it :) I haven't decided exactly how to do prepromotes yet, I'll work it out at some point 😅
one thing to note is that Roy's rapier in the Binding Blade actually isn't effective against nomads, though I'm not sure whether that would change the rankings much lol
It also has lower might I think, but hey ho 🤷♂️
For the enemies that reach you on the turn the door is opened, you could place some walls to slow them down, the map would look a bit messy and ugly but would make it way more fair
Not sure how FE builder works, but would it be possible to set enemies to be stationary even when player is in range? Sort of like how bosses in games usually do? That would make it so the player can always chose if they want to first strike or enemy phase.
Bow units are free then
@@xa447 Hmm... True. Same goes with melee units if you have a ranged weapon. Perhaps then equip the characters with a 2-ranged weapon too, such as javelin and handaxes, with the caveat that you have to use the weapon that an enemy can counter-strike.
While it’d be fun to keep going with lords, I’m curious about how a unit with multiple available weapons would run the gauntlet.
For that reason, I nominate Sain!
Ngl, kinda forgot how decent Hector's speed was lol. Lad was definitely made for this kind of challenge.
He's surprisingly zoomy. Got that Sonic energy
@@BadAtFireEmblemcomes free with the blue hair
Ultimately the strongest character in Fire Emblem, is the embodiment of Child Soldiers.
The uber spear is to stat caps what Tiamat is to bounded accuracy.
Funny thing I wanna bring up - though the fe7 rapier has a higher base Mt than the fe6 rapier roy normally has (7 to 5), it actually does less damage to effective targets due to fe7 only using double effectiveness vs fe6 having triple effectiveness. It may be better against most normal enemies, but against cavs and armors, the weaker rapier is more effective.
That is interesting. I ran this in fe8 though, and I think fe8 has triple effectiveness
@@BadAtFireEmblem ah, I had assumed it was fe7 since nomads were there
@@isuckatgaming1873 I ported them into fe8 specially :)
I vote Ephraim or Ross! Maybe make Ross level 10 in his first promoted class, or make him level 20 as Super Trainee
ROSS IS MY BOY
0:17 Hey look I appear there!, amazing video, Hector just destroyed everyone lol
What about one with Ephraim or Dorcas?
My FE8 main man Joshua I expect will be an interesting one to do someday.
I'd like to see Lyn try this out. She gets walled by the Armor Knight in her Iron run, but I'm curious what the Mani Katti would do for her
Oswin or Gilliam would be cool to see
I wanna see either geese or dart, I wanna see the pirates
Rutger with and without hard mode bonuses. He can best the child
Legault would be an interesting one. Usually has close to max skill and speed and around 12 atk.
I'd like to see Lyn do this. I'm predicting she'd do terribly, but I'd still like to see it.
If you double an enemy and kill the in three hits, it’s better to enemy phase them and then player phase them instead of vice versa. It can stop you from facing one more attack
Yeah I was paying more attention to commentating than how I was playing lol
Hah eat that Rick52's gamefaqs guide from 2004 that rates Lilina a 10/10 and Hector a 9/10 (And Wendy a 9/10 L O L)
The sacred texts!
Instead of a D tier item...Would it make sense for the item drop to be up to your discretion? Basically, you deciding whether a weapon or healing will help the unit get further, and giving that to the unit before the Myrmidon.
i'd like to see some of the so-termed 'OP' units' runs to see if they can actually kill the child, maybe rutger or milady
I'm curious how well Lyn would do. She's not known for being very good, but maybe she can surprise us with some lucky dodges or crits.
I know you're looking at base classes, but I would love to see how far base Seth would get and maybe compare it to Marcus.
Lyn is very squishy so it'd be interesting to see how far she gets.
I'll definitely do promoted units at some point but I haven't worked out how to implement it yet :)
My favorite lord finally!
Ephraim! Because I like his animations
I’d be curious if Lilina’s “perf weapon” would be forblaze. I’m pretty sure mage Lilina can’t use it, but still might be cool to see how she does with it. It may be nice to have the higher Mt weapon but also could be worse if it weighs her down too much
Potentially funny option is to bring in Kelik of TLP fame, with his Prf run being Flamberge. Of course since he’s not an actual character, it’d be for memes, maybe April Fool’s, but he’s broken enough to maybe even deal with the Uber Spear, though probably not.
That... does sound like a fun april fools video - basically a real video in terms of content, with the joke being that it's a ROMhack character running the gauntlet.
I'll definitely do non-gba vanilla characters at some point, but I probably won't do romhack characters (possibly a dedicated stream for them though eventually?)
I think it might be better to let the units be attacked first. If the unit kills in 2 attacks its the same as if they attack first, and if they kill in 3 hits, they take 1 less hit. It should, in theory, allow them to go even further. Going first only helps if they ohko.
Bro forgot to set Javelin ranged Animations for the Uber Spear
Bro all the animations went to shit in this video 🤣
I think Joshua's got this, even the uber spear civilian. He'll crit every single one
Heather, that lad absolutely carried in my run. I wanna see if he has a chance in this.
Do you mean Heath? Or have I missed a recruitable character for 15 years? 🤣
@@BadAtFireEmblem Aye I mean Heath, I was let's say sleep deprived at the time I was making this comment. WHOOPS.
@@toxictalon74 uh oh, sleep deprivation, very dangerous
Show us how truly Rutger does in this set up.
BRING IN MY BOY EPHRAIM! If anyone can take the child it's him.
Next with Myrrh would be nice
I think non GBA lords would be interesting eventually. Ike, and Sigurd and Seliph come to mind
I can definitely do some of those eventually, it'll just depend what resources are available
Considering Gonzalez's whole stick is critting(and being one of the only recruitable Brigands in the series), i dont think hed do amazing, but i think hed make a good candidate to run the gauntlet.
Also...For characters without a Prf...how about making their "Prf" run the best weapon their class can equip?
I'd like to see Seth or Marcus test their claim to best jagen
Will there be a video for promoted units eventually? Would love to see Binding Blade Roy, or units like promoted Rutger/Dieck with Durandal/Armads, etc.
That said, Rutger or Dieck next! Ooh, Gonzalez!
I definitely want to do a few of the vanilla promoted units, but I don't know how best to implement them. Levelling them down the promoted level 1? Unpromoting them to level 20 base? Who knows. But probably not legendary weapons, I'll save them for a different series at some point
I want to see Knight Amelia give it a shot.
I'd suggest doing another non-lord first so they can be spaced out a bit. Something like a wyvern knight or bow user might be fun? Cormag or Rath I'd say.
I really want to see Marcus!
Oh this is a fun concept. Do Canas next
Swords NAa. I loved to see the one and only Spear Lord Ephraim give it a go and defeat the gauntlet
If you ever do promoted units, I'd like to see how well an average lvl 20 Jaffar would do.
Could you do Deke or Rutger next? I feel like they would do really well
The bonus round with Roy made me so sad because in FE6 the rapier has the same might than an iron sword and the extra 2 might that the rapier would eventually get would really help him in his early game.
Yeah big time, Roy needs any help he can get in fe6
Unsure if anything but a level 20 Melady or Rutger with HM bonuses would clear the child. But we will see. I don't think any normal mode character would clear that, assuming unpromoted of course.
What about Canas with his prf Luna? (It’s essentially his PRF, the only other dark magic user in FE7 is Athos)
By that logic every single dark tome is also his prf
Whilst I've seen the most recent, I literally just don't know where Hector places, I'm gonna say... a modest 13ish? I kinda want to say 15, but the heart says 13, so yeah, I've totally forgotten how his run goes, on the table from the most recent installment (Lyn when I am typing this out)... but that's my guess.
Also, you mentioned porting in characters from other games in the future and whilst I am unsure what you can do in terms of porting him into GBA, I'd eventually love to see 20/20 Ike w/ Aether FE9 Ike to make it even simpler, since it's literally the next game in line with this engine, well, I'm not saying it's a 1:1 because I know it isn't. My reasons are as follows: my favorite non-GBA "Lord"
Character, I main him in Smash Bros, yes I know he's in a weird place, IDC, been reppin' him since Brawl. My final reason is because, well, I've played FE9 too much, like only FE game that comes close to the number of runs in FE9 is FE8, which is my first game! So, like, major bias on my end, but Ranger Ike is imho, the coolest looking outfit any "Lord" wears, second place is like... Ephraim.
Hector best non customizable/ multi-class lord (Awakening/Fates ie)
Yes. Hector does it. I havent watched the video YET but he counters just about everything if you give him the right weapons. Lyndis can pass as well, given she has a light brand and her Mani Katti, but she cant defeat the dragon sadly :(
That uber spear is doubly effective than it normally is, 20 in every stat is crazy. The highest is +14 to resistance
Hector is indeed a beast.
And yeah the mega uber spear is meant to be op, I think myrrh is the only unit that might kill her
I would absolutely love to see Ross!
Hector, despite him not being confident against mages and their ilk, performed well against them
Hector should have more confidence in his abilities!