Surely Three Houses’ choice is Ferdinand. Firstly, he needs an Armor requirement. This can only be taught by Alois and Gilbert. Alois is absent on Chapters 5 & 10 and Gilbert is only available starting Chapter 5 and is absent on 10. Byleth also can’t train Armor in a battle unless he is in the Armored Knight Intermediate class. And on top of ALL that, Ferdinand’s B support is only unlocked post-timeskip. This means that A. Byleth cannot lower his recruit requirement more and B. Ferdinand cannot join another house automatically like other units can normally can do with a Byleth B support
Exactly this. On my run of Blue Lions, my first run, I got EVERYBODY... except Ferdinand von Aegir. Dorothea was so upset when we had to kill poor Ferdie because he locks his freaking A Support behind the time skip and he wants freaking Heavy Armor. :P
Would it not be Jeritza since he's technically the only unit you obtain by going Crimson flower and that is arguably harder than just getting your stats up by a certain point in the game
Counterpoint, FE12 Wolf, especially on Lunatic. You need to rush to the village to recruit Roshea, rush him to recruit Vyland, get Vyland to recruit Sedgar, and put Sedgar under fire to recruit Wolf, all in a map with very dangerous reinforcements and enemy placements.
On my first playthrough of Three Houses, I grinded like crazy and got EVERYONE. Except for one. One single character who I ended up being forced to kill because I could not get an A support with him and he wants HEAVY ARMOR and I freaking HATE Heavy Armor. "We killed Ferdie! Don't you remember Ferdie, professor?" Like come on. There's no legitimate option other than Ferdinand von Aegir.
Other dishonorable mentions I can think of: Matthis (FE3/12): Requires you to run a big lap around the map to recruit Julian so he can talk to Matthis. Rutger (FE6): Two words: AMBUSH SPAWNS. Teodor (FE7): Bending the rules a bit to make a point, since you don't actually recruit him, but let's be real, did anyone unlock 19xx without a guide? Karel/Harken (FE7): A mutually-exclusive pair found in an already bizarre chapter. Depending on which version of Pale Flower of Darkness you get, the condition is either based on how many promoted units you kill or how many doors you open. Ymir (FE11): Shadow Dragon’s paralogues (not counting 24x) require you to have killed of several of your units to play, and Ymir is the worst offender of this gimmick, joining in Chapter 20x when most players would already have several units in their army to kill off. Anna (FEW): Bonus character with several complicated requirements to unlock. I don’t remember exactly what they were, but she’s supposed to be the last unit you get. Ferdinand (FE16): Other people already brought him up, but Ferdinand has the harshest requirements of all of the students to recruit in Three Houses. Amusingly, Three Hopes makes him completely unrecruitable outside of the Black Eagles route. Leonie (FEW:TH SB): While the option to persuade her shows up no matter what, she won’t join you if you killed Jeralt earlier.
To be fair, most people are going to go out of the way to get Julian since he's required for the best ending to save Lena. Also you can cut through the center if you don't care about Mathis dieing (he pretty much will if you cut through the center since he sucks) Its more difficult due to the powerful wyvern riders and balista, but its heck of alot faster and less tedious.
I would actually bring up recruiting Hilda in 3 houses, since you have only a single chapter window to do so. She is only available to recruit in chapter 11, no sooner Also for fates conquest, Ignatius would probably be the hardest. Same logic behind Shiro, do the chapter to late and he'll die on turn 2 due to being ridiculously under leveled, surrounded by powerful enemies, on the far side of the map
For three houses I believe another character should be thrown in the ring since we are using the Serenes stat requirements, using those I believe Hilda is the hardest character to unlock as she is not only unable to acquire a B support which heavily reduces recruitment requirements, requires a C rank in axes which you are only gonna grind for if you really want Wyvern lord, but she is also the only character in the game to require 30 in a stat in order to unlock, in this case Charm. This is even ignoring Black Eagles in which the only chance you have to recruit her is the little interem period between the route split and the time skip since you can't even recruit her on CF.
You can get B support with Hilda and still recruit her on SS. It may take a bit of resetting but you 100% can get her pre timeskip. Also Charm is one of Byleth's best stats since they get a guaranteed +1 every month, assuming you do tea time correctly. Compare that to CF Alois who has only 1 chapter to be recruited before he goes away or OOH Ferdinand who requires a D in Heavy Armor.
@ ok the B rank definitely makes it easier, but you’re much more likely to get 8 dex for C+ support OOH Ferdie, also Alois is the only guy you can train axes from so it takes even longer to get the required ranks then armor. You’ll likely spend more time going for Hilda than Ferdie due to the combo of support and axe grinding, which in my mind constitutes harder for 3H standards.
The translation of Thraccia 776 i played even gave a little help with the Knights and their relatives. It was not much easier though. I only allowed myself to use save states out of frustration on two chapters and this was one of those.
Nah we're not done talking about Xavier yet bro, come back for a sec: The real enemy here is the AI that can and will chokepoint itself into a stalemate preventing anyone from moving. Map is horrible for no valid reason
beating Seigberts chapter is more difficult than rescue warping Shiro. I also think church route Hilda is the most difficult to recruit since she's locked out until Edelgard betrays you
For FE3 I would dare say that Samson is harder than Sheena, Sheena will stay still on her throne but Samson will move to attack you and potentially even block the way since I’m 90% sure the door is in his aggro range.
I am not watching this for spoiler reasons, playing Fe4 at the moment, but having the very first non-forced recruitment in that game be the incredibly obtuse process of getting chased by Ayra while Benny Hill is playing, seizing the castle and talking to her all with Sigurd made me really scared that all of the recruitments would be like that.
I know everyone likes to pick on Xavier and Hannibal for having obtuse recruitments for just okay units in return but I really don’t think they’re as tedious and disappointing as Karla Like the game asks the player to use a bad unit the entire game to get a worse unit for the last chapter
In Fe9, with Ike you can use the magic card. The only problem is to make he moves. In Fe8, over stephan, I found Ilyana really difficult to recruit in hard difficulty. Haar, and Astrid for the same reason as larachel
Hannibal's recruitment is hard on paper, but he's pretty easy to cheese. If all of his soldiers are dead, he'll head back towards his castle to get more, and if you just place a unit on the gate of the castle without seizing it, he'll just stand next to them and not do anything. Sure, it doesn't deal with all the wyverns, but without Hannibal and his guys causing problems they're pretty easy to deal with; you can seize Luthecia and recruit Charlot with just Seliph and Ares (or any other decently strong unit tbh), so holding out against Travant's squad isn't that difficult when you have your entire army minus Seliph, his helper, and whoever's blocking Hannibal to do it with.
I really wish they stopped making most recruitments automatic in modern FE. I love the wacky recruitments, secrets and replacement units from the older games, so it's kinda sad to see them abandon them for the most part.
Surely 3H is Hilda, right? She’s the only retainer unit you can recruit outside of her rout, BUT not at all on crimson flower, and only for one chapter in Silver Snow.
Lindon is not really an obscure unit but the community treats him like one; he almost never appears on tier lists or balance discussions because I think most players kill him and move on thinking he's a miniboss or something.
Initially I did plan to mention a few characters from each game and Shinon would've been talked about, but I wanted to keep the video kind of short so I decided to only choose one from each game.
I say silver snow Hilda might be the hardest because you cant recruit her in through most of the BE playthough and is only truly available is if you pick the silver snow route and available for 1 chapter and you need a b rank with her then she can be recruited
Ignatius is also in the same situation if you do his paralogue to late. Since he's the same under leveled green unit who starts on the far side of the map and is quickly swarmed by enemies who will absolutely one round him if you go into this chapter to late.
The hardest character in BS Fire Emblem to recruit is Frost: you need to wait about 32 minutes of in-game time for him to join automatically. Yeah not hard, BSFE doesn't have hard recruits in the slightest. Most units join at the start, while three of them join after a specific time in the map; Frost just takes the longest to get. I guess you could also argue he's pretty easy to kill if you don't know better (though when this came out it was packaged with an opening and voice lines that would lean you towards not kiling him), though he's not a free kill cause he's very fast with only a thunder tome, and he runs away from your units if you get near, though you could kill him if you catch up and chip enough (he's fragile ofc since he's a bishop), you've got three fliers on that map after all. Meanwhile you have a weaker squad on the map where you get Malice and Dice; Navarre is your best combat unit at the start, but Malice is literally just better than him statistically, and Dice's devil axe could cause issues.
No hate, but the 3h section is a travesty. No mention of how easy it is to bypass these requirements with a B support, and no mention of the two students who don't get B support until after the timeskip. Not to mention, none of the 3 you mentioned are particularly difficult, with Dorothea and Felix being all but free.
Yeah 3H is the one I was most unsure about as I don't usually bother to recruit characters from outside of the house I choose. But, a lot of other comments are mentioning Ferdinand and Hilda and I would agree with them on that.
Surely Three Houses’ choice is Ferdinand. Firstly, he needs an Armor requirement. This can only be taught by Alois and Gilbert. Alois is absent on Chapters 5 & 10 and Gilbert is only available starting Chapter 5 and is absent on 10. Byleth also can’t train Armor in a battle unless he is in the Armored Knight Intermediate class. And on top of ALL that, Ferdinand’s B support is only unlocked post-timeskip. This means that A. Byleth cannot lower his recruit requirement more and B. Ferdinand cannot join another house automatically like other units can normally can do with a Byleth B support
Exactly this. On my run of Blue Lions, my first run, I got EVERYBODY... except Ferdinand von Aegir. Dorothea was so upset when we had to kill poor Ferdie because he locks his freaking A Support behind the time skip and he wants freaking Heavy Armor. :P
Would it not be Jeritza since he's technically the only unit you obtain by going Crimson flower and that is arguably harder than just getting your stats up by a certain point in the game
@@noishhater9138 He’s not a difficult unit to recruit. He joins your party automatically
@luminary6818 yeah after reading the other comments I agree that Ferdinand is probably harder
Ngl I thought you meant Sylvain and this was gonna be an elaborate joke of some kind.
Counterpoint, FE12 Wolf, especially on Lunatic. You need to rush to the village to recruit Roshea, rush him to recruit Vyland, get Vyland to recruit Sedgar, and put Sedgar under fire to recruit Wolf, all in a map with very dangerous reinforcements and enemy placements.
Also the fact that Roshea, Vyland, and Sedgar all suck in FE 12. So they are at serious risk of outright dying before they can do the recruit chain
I ended up getting Felix without even trying on my first playthough because Byleth naturally got the ranks in Sword and points in Speed.
On my first playthrough of Three Houses, I grinded like crazy and got EVERYONE. Except for one. One single character who I ended up being forced to kill because I could not get an A support with him and he wants HEAVY ARMOR and I freaking HATE Heavy Armor.
"We killed Ferdie! Don't you remember Ferdie, professor?"
Like come on. There's no legitimate option other than Ferdinand von Aegir.
You're right in regard to these requirements. But i never thought in FE12, you would get to recruit Michalis, one of the bosses in the previous game.
I mean you already got Camus, who is also a boss in the previous game so adding Michalis isn't *that* weird
Other dishonorable mentions I can think of:
Matthis (FE3/12): Requires you to run a big lap around the map to recruit Julian so he can talk to Matthis.
Rutger (FE6): Two words: AMBUSH SPAWNS.
Teodor (FE7): Bending the rules a bit to make a point, since you don't actually recruit him, but let's be real, did anyone unlock 19xx without a guide?
Karel/Harken (FE7): A mutually-exclusive pair found in an already bizarre chapter. Depending on which version of Pale Flower of Darkness you get, the condition is either based on how many promoted units you kill or how many doors you open.
Ymir (FE11): Shadow Dragon’s paralogues (not counting 24x) require you to have killed of several of your units to play, and Ymir is the worst offender of this gimmick, joining in Chapter 20x when most players would already have several units in their army to kill off.
Anna (FEW): Bonus character with several complicated requirements to unlock. I don’t remember exactly what they were, but she’s supposed to be the last unit you get.
Ferdinand (FE16): Other people already brought him up, but Ferdinand has the harshest requirements of all of the students to recruit in Three Houses. Amusingly, Three Hopes makes him completely unrecruitable outside of the Black Eagles route.
Leonie (FEW:TH SB): While the option to persuade her shows up no matter what, she won’t join you if you killed Jeralt earlier.
To be fair, most people are going to go out of the way to get Julian since he's required for the best ending to save Lena. Also you can cut through the center if you don't care about Mathis dieing (he pretty much will if you cut through the center since he sucks)
Its more difficult due to the powerful wyvern riders and balista, but its heck of alot faster and less tedious.
I would actually bring up recruiting Hilda in 3 houses, since you have only a single chapter window to do so. She is only available to recruit in chapter 11, no sooner
Also for fates conquest, Ignatius would probably be the hardest. Same logic behind Shiro, do the chapter to late and he'll die on turn 2 due to being ridiculously under leveled, surrounded by powerful enemies, on the far side of the map
I agree, but this is only for the Black Eagles. For Blue Lions, she's available sooner.
@@artificialaceattorney6822 for non BE routes, it's Ferdinand for sure
I remember only recruiting Lysithea on my first playthrough. Maybe Leonie...
For three houses I believe another character should be thrown in the ring since we are using the Serenes stat requirements, using those I believe Hilda is the hardest character to unlock as she is not only unable to acquire a B support which heavily reduces recruitment requirements, requires a C rank in axes which you are only gonna grind for if you really want Wyvern lord, but she is also the only character in the game to require 30 in a stat in order to unlock, in this case Charm. This is even ignoring Black Eagles in which the only chance you have to recruit her is the little interem period between the route split and the time skip since you can't even recruit her on CF.
You can get B support with Hilda and still recruit her on SS. It may take a bit of resetting but you 100% can get her pre timeskip.
Also Charm is one of Byleth's best stats since they get a guaranteed +1 every month, assuming you do tea time correctly.
Compare that to CF Alois who has only 1 chapter to be recruited before he goes away or OOH Ferdinand who requires a D in Heavy Armor.
@ ok the B rank definitely makes it easier, but you’re much more likely to get 8 dex for C+ support OOH Ferdie, also Alois is the only guy you can train axes from so it takes even longer to get the required ranks then armor. You’ll likely spend more time going for Hilda than Ferdie due to the combo of support and axe grinding, which in my mind constitutes harder for 3H standards.
The translation of Thraccia 776 i played even gave a little help with the Knights and their relatives. It was not much easier though. I only allowed myself to use save states out of frustration on two chapters and this was one of those.
Nah we're not done talking about Xavier yet bro, come back for a sec:
The real enemy here is the AI that can and will chokepoint itself into a stalemate preventing anyone from moving.
Map is horrible for no valid reason
beating Seigberts chapter is more difficult than rescue warping Shiro. I also think church route Hilda is the most difficult to recruit since she's locked out until Edelgard betrays you
For FE6 should be Echidna who can die on her first turn.
Never forget Karla or how annoying it is to recruit Tiny
Just wondering, like really really wondering,
how easy was it for you to recruit Ferdinand when he demands heavy armor?!🤯
I hope Xavier becomes a GHB in Heroes so we can immortalize his recruitmant into history
For FE3 I would dare say that Samson is harder than Sheena, Sheena will stay still on her throne but Samson will move to attack you and potentially even block the way since I’m 90% sure the door is in his aggro range.
I am not watching this for spoiler reasons, playing Fe4 at the moment, but having the very first non-forced recruitment in that game be the incredibly obtuse process of getting chased by Ayra while Benny Hill is playing, seizing the castle and talking to her all with Sigurd made me really scared that all of the recruitments would be like that.
Society if Karel joined a few levels lower:
For Awakening i was actually thinking Gangrel. He's VERY aggressive, and you have to talk to him with Chrom three times just to recruit him.
I know everyone likes to pick on Xavier and Hannibal for having obtuse recruitments for just okay units in return but I really don’t think they’re as tedious and disappointing as Karla
Like the game asks the player to use a bad unit the entire game to get a worse unit for the last chapter
Xavier is probably one of the only times i said fuck it and didnt recruit him. I know hes basically a machine gun but it was so annoying lmao
In Fe9, with Ike you can use the magic card. The only problem is to make he moves.
In Fe8, over stephan, I found Ilyana really difficult to recruit in hard difficulty. Haar, and Astrid for the same reason as larachel
Hannibal's recruitment is hard on paper, but he's pretty easy to cheese. If all of his soldiers are dead, he'll head back towards his castle to get more, and if you just place a unit on the gate of the castle without seizing it, he'll just stand next to them and not do anything. Sure, it doesn't deal with all the wyverns, but without Hannibal and his guys causing problems they're pretty easy to deal with; you can seize Luthecia and recruit Charlot with just Seliph and Ares (or any other decently strong unit tbh), so holding out against Travant's squad isn't that difficult when you have your entire army minus Seliph, his helper, and whoever's blocking Hannibal to do it with.
If Revelations was added, I would say Scarlett for the same reason as Kaze.
i dunno bout you but I didn't even realise Nomah was someone you could recruit in Echoes and went through the whole game without him
I really wish they stopped making most recruitments automatic in modern FE.
I love the wacky recruitments, secrets and replacement units from the older games, so it's kinda sad to see them abandon them for the most part.
Surely 3H is Hilda, right? She’s the only retainer unit you can recruit outside of her rout, BUT not at all on crimson flower, and only for one chapter in Silver Snow.
Lindon is not really an obscure unit but the community treats him like one; he almost never appears on tier lists or balance discussions because I think most players kill him and move on thinking he's a miniboss or something.
Feel like the re-recruitment of Shinon deserved a mention here in FE9.
Initially I did plan to mention a few characters from each game and Shinon would've been talked about, but I wanted to keep the video kind of short so I decided to only choose one from each game.
I say silver snow Hilda might be the hardest because you cant recruit her in through most of the BE playthough and is only truly available is if you pick the silver snow route and available for 1 chapter and you need a b rank with her then she can be recruited
I completely forgot Shiro was such a pain to recruit
Ignatius is also in the same situation if you do his paralogue to late. Since he's the same under leveled green unit who starts on the far side of the map and is quickly swarmed by enemies who will absolutely one round him if you go into this chapter to late.
I would've thought Hilda was the hardest fe16 recruitment.
The hardest character in BS Fire Emblem to recruit is Frost: you need to wait about 32 minutes of in-game time for him to join automatically.
Yeah not hard, BSFE doesn't have hard recruits in the slightest. Most units join at the start, while three of them join after a specific time in the map; Frost just takes the longest to get.
I guess you could also argue he's pretty easy to kill if you don't know better (though when this came out it was packaged with an opening and voice lines that would lean you towards not kiling him), though he's not a free kill cause he's very fast with only a thunder tome, and he runs away from your units if you get near, though you could kill him if you catch up and chip enough (he's fragile ofc since he's a bishop), you've got three fliers on that map after all. Meanwhile you have a weaker squad on the map where you get Malice and Dice; Navarre is your best combat unit at the start, but Malice is literally just better than him statistically, and Dice's devil axe could cause issues.
I think the dude from FE10 is also exclusive to new game plus. I know I couldn't recruit him my first playthrough but maybe that was user error
Yes, you need to start a new game from a cleared file, I forgot to mention that.
No I'd say thea or klein for fe6 since they may not even move.
No hate, but the 3h section is a travesty. No mention of how easy it is to bypass these requirements with a B support, and no mention of the two students who don't get B support until after the timeskip. Not to mention, none of the 3 you mentioned are particularly difficult, with Dorothea and Felix being all but free.
Yeah 3H is the one I was most unsure about as I don't usually bother to recruit characters from outside of the house I choose. But, a lot of other comments are mentioning Ferdinand and Hilda and I would agree with them on that.