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Fly Tying: Utah Killer Bug
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2013
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In this fly tying tutorial, I wanted to share a fly given to me by my buddy Tom, the Utah Killer Bug. This fly is a modified and easier version of Frank Sawyer's Killer Bug. The Utah Killer Bug can represent a myriad of insects depending on how you tie it. From the crane fly larva to scud, this pattern tied in a nondescript color seems to simply look like a bug (especially when it's wet!). There are a couple variations shown at the end, plus you can always make this pattern into a soft hackle, which can then touch on the caddis spectrum. The Utah Killer Bug, created by the Tenkara Guides, is a keeper in my box, and belongs in yours, too. Tom, thanks for sharing this pattern!
As of October 2019, the material I now use for this fly is Semperfli Chadwick's 477 Substitute. The material is able to be spun tighter, creating a more naturally-ribbed body. You can find the material: competitiveang...
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Well done Tim. As you know, the UKB is a variation of Frank Sawyer's original. What many of your viewers may not is the original Killer Bug was tied with Chadwick 477 which hasn't been available for many years. The price of a single card of this wool commands big bucks and a gun safe in the house! There has been a lot of attempts at recreating the exact coloration and a few companies have came extremely close. Two that come to immediate mind is Jamieson and Semperfli
Thanks for taking a moment to comment and the original yarn is nearly reaching mythic proportions! The history of the pattern is really unique and one that I enjoy learning about. I don't know if you've seen this, but here's Frank Sawyer tying a Pheasant Tail: ua-cam.com/video/416Os9V84n8/v-deo.html Thanks again! Tim
A blast from the past but I'm tying these tonight for a buddy that found this pattern somewhere online and wants a bunch for his fly box. Thanks for the video my friend! Great tip for keeping the wire in place too! 👊👊
The Utah Killer Bug was developed by the Tenkara Guides LLC in Salt Lake and is a variation of the Killer Bug by Frank Sawyer as interpreted by Chris Steward of Tenkarabum.com who reintroduced it using the Shetland-Spendrift yarn.
I am pleased that someone gave Frank Sawyer a mention.
The tenkara guides video is good, but the guy is too zoomed out and have trouble seeing exactly what he's doing.
Thanks, Tim forgot a lot over the years but you are bringing me back.
Glad to help, Gary, and this is a fun one! I also have it tied in a jig: ua-cam.com/video/DHKk7UBLFAc/v-deo.html Enjoy! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Tim, I went to WVU, played football there. The Nittany Lions used to beat the hell out of us every year!! I really like Penn State; I've always said that if I ever had a son who was good enough to play college football, I would want him to play for joe Paterno. but Rip Engel was the coach when I was there! Thanks for the videos!
I have been tying that fly for years and use a black head .A really good Killer. Thanks.
The black head sounds great, Bill...I'll try it! Thanks, and happy holidays. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Looks a lot like a scud. Tied in grey with red thread head works great in the Ozarks
No affiliation, besides being a thrilled repeat customer, but I make the trek from PA to Eld' Bros every summer! Ok, so we vacation in Maine every summer, so that helps... but Eldridge Brothers is an excellent, well-stocked shop! Plus, there is a sweets / chocolate shop in the left hand side of the same building, to keep the better half happy while you spend all of your bank account on tying supplies! Well stocked shop, highly recommended - if you're ever in their neck of the woods stop by.
Awesome, Pete, and great to know. Plus...a place to buy chocolate close by??? Who wouldn't want to go! Happy new year, buddy. Tim
Thanks for the video. I use the stiffer Keiryu rods and I used a UKB and a UKB with a hotspot on the Jordan River in Michigan last weekend. Drifted the whole pool without a hotspot and got one. Drifted the same pool with the hotspot and got four. YMMV but it's hotspots for me from now on. ;)
+Bozzel Ha ha, very great information, and definitely what makes fishing fun! Thanks for sharing your experience with us, and I hope to hear from you on more of my videos. Tim
The dubbing color and kind is totally up to you. Personally I use an olive or gray color, and for brand I have no preference.
Gotcha; thanks!
Love this fly! Worked Great on Bluegill also! Thank You!
You got it, Mike; thanks for the comments! I'm glad it worked for you, and especially glad that it worked on bluegills, too. TC
Very nicely done Tim, I like these variations of a great pattern, I was lucky enough to score a skein of the Shetland Spindrift Oyster #290 yarn a while back. Will give these a variation a try. The Killer Bug pattern is also a great SM and panfish pattern too.
Mike
Thanks, Mike; I need to purchase a skein of that material @ some point. Tom sent me a bit, but I'm running out quickly! Tim
If interested I got my from here www.yarnbarn.com/yarn/colorcard.asp?partNo=KY-JAM-SSSP#.UP3IHfJfLXg
I found that the Sand yarn, #183 is also pretty close to the original if you can't get the Oyster.
Mike
Perfect; thanks, Mike!
Just this morning ordered a ball Of Shetland Spindrift to tie up some of these. I did see another tier state that he uses pink thread because it shows through the wool when it gets wet and enhances the colour. I'll try both methods and let the fish decide! Thanks Tim!
Thanks for the comment, David, and I hope all is well. There are lots of websites that go into details regarding this pattern and the original Killer Bug...it's nearly overwhelming. Let me know what the fish think, as that is the most critical criticism that matters! Tim
I've just watched a video of Oliver Edwards tying the original and then fishing it on the Hampshire Avon. He used the original Chadwick's 477 and what surprised me most was how much the colour changed when it got wet! Looking forward to the experiment!
Thanks for the email, and you'll have to let me know how your experiment goes. Do you have a source for that Chadwick? I don't know of any in the States...
I get it direct from the Shetland company in Scotland, Tim. I'll email you the link.
Tim, just been to study this again as my friend asked me to tie him some flies for the grayling fishing this winter. This is regarded more as a grayling fly in the UK. Do you have grayling in the US?
Also, after doing a bit of research discovered a similar grayling fly called a Dove Bug, which is basically 2 colours of seal's fur dubbing with a wire rib. Have you ever come across this pattern?
Also just realised that I made a mistake in the post above - you were asking about Chadwick's 477 and I thought you were asking about Shetland Spindrift. Sorry, my mistake. Chadwick's 477 is difficult to source these days. There are guys on eBay selling it for £5 a yard on eBay! Rarer than hens' teeth, I'm afraid! Regards from the UK.
I tie something very similar using "Sparkle Yarn" and a brown marabou head. I think it represents a caddis larvae. It is a killer in Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado also. The fly should maybe be renamed Rocky Mountain Killer Bug?
That sounds really nice, Frank! How do you tie the marabou head in, as I'd love to try tying some for Pennsylvania (which it will then be renamed the PA Killer Bug!). ;-) Tim
I use the method for tying the marabou head from LaFontain's Sparkle Pupa fly. Take a few strands of marabou and wrap one or two turns like you would wrap a hackle. The marabou serves 2 purposes. It gives the contrast of a head darker than the body. The marabou barbs move in a lifelike manner, maybe simulating caddis larvae legs? I tie the fly in sizes 10 to 14. It seems to work best before and during a hatch but the larvae are always there.
Looks something like Frank Sawyers killer bug minus of course the tying with copper wire. There is also a different yarn which is not made anymore, but I have used the yarn you are using for this one and tied with copper wire. I think that one is so effective because of the color that bleeds through from the color of the wire. Once it is wet it looks more pink. Anyway, I sent you a private message because this is not the forum. All the best to you and your wife for a happy holiday season. Sean
This is just like Sawyer's Killer Bug, with the different yarn and lack of copper wire. Tom will tie this with copper wire (typically pink) occasionally, but this color minus the wire matches our scuds perfectly. It seems like there aren't a lot of places to get this exact match of yarn, thus I'd be interested in finding a similar brand (if one exists). All the best to you and yours during this Christmas season! Tim
Looks like a ribbed Walt's worm. I like it. Thanks for the great video Tim.
You got it, Tom, and it definitely has that feel. Thanks for the kind words! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Tim, you mentioned that you're from Pa, Wondering if we've met...Spring Creek in State College, Fishing Creek in Benton, Little Lehigh- Allentown,Bowmans creek , Lehigh River near White Haven,.Broadhead Creek & McMichaels near Tannersville or my homewater Harveys Creek near Dallas, Pa.? Bob
rewolfe333 Good question, Bob, and I have fished Spring and the Little J quite a bit over the years. Tim
Great video! I mainly use tenkara for trout in streams and this is one of the most celebrated and deadliest flies used among American tenkara anglers. It looks super buggy in the water and sinks fast, esp with the wire-weighted version shown in this video. I've tied this in several colors and they all look great. And yes, the red thread looks great, though I'm sure pink looks even better. I recommend using a Mustad C49S hook, looks amazing and has a good gape.
I'd like to see how you tied in the pink hot spot using the glo brite. Any tips y'all can give? Floss is new for me and my current experiences have been rather frustrating, though it looks like glo brite is different from other kinds of floss.
Hi Matthew, and I appreciate the kind words. Yes, this fly is a killer! The Glo-Brite can be tricky, and I use it on a bobbin, like other threads. My favorite bobbin: amzn.to/3gfx97s Definitely try it in a few colors, and here is another method for a hot spot that works real well: ua-cam.com/video/-OxdqrJBJ4s/v-deo.html Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You do a great job instructing. Thanks for your videos
You're welcome, John, and thanks for such kind words. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
We developed this fly to be an easier version of Frank's Sawyer's killer bug. Plus, it's more effective! We originally purchased the yarn from our local yarn shop in Salt Lake City called Blazing Needles. They ship all around the country.
We use it as a crane fly, scud, or just a random piece of protein floating down the river.
TenkaraGuides.com
This is definitely a great one; thanks for the comments! TC
I just stumbled on to this tutorial. I’ve caught more fish on this fly than any other in my arsenal. I learned about it when I had Tenkara Guides teach me how to fish Tenkara about 5 or 6 years ago. I have love both, the fly and Tenkara ever since. Thanks guys! By the way, I got my picture in the local paper while buying the yarn at Blazing Needles. They were doing a segment on unusual local Salt Lake City retail shops. I have not run out of the yarn since then.
How about sow bug rainbow. Looks a like this material. Great video thanks
Hi Wayne, and the fly you're referencing is dubbed, which is a slightly different technique than this one. Different fly, same concept...no wonder fish love them both! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa Thanks for getting back. I was just referring to the color similarity.
Nice kind of like Walt's worms I heard tons in PA, cased Caddis I'm going to try some in upstate New York
Exactly, and here's a video on a Walt Worm (and Walt Young is a REALLY cool dude!): ua-cam.com/video/-OxdqrJBJ4s/v-deo.html Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Very cool, Tim! Kind'a reminds me of Paul Berger's "Honey Bug".
Thanks, Phil, and it does have a similar look, though the feel is quite different. Both patterns work well, though, and will always have a spot in my box! Tim
Excellent! Where can you purchase that yarn? I've never seen it before.
philfly66 Phil, the yarn is called Jamieson's Shetland Spindrift, with the color: Oyster. You can simply do a Google search to find a dealer near you (or contact Jamieson's who can refer you to one). I believe some fly shops may carry it, but I am unaware of them. Hope this helps! Tim
Thanks Tim!
hey Tim...this is a slick fly i will create for my fly box....
+CWO4D Absolutely, Denver! The recommended material works really well, though don't be afraid to try it with other materials you can twist. I have found it to be very successful on spring creeks, thus would try fishing it on those types of waterways first. Tim
Very very good!
+Enrique Santiago Thank you, and I'm glad you enjoyed it! This is a great pattern, and I recommend you trying it (and don't be afraid to modify it slightly with other body materials). Tim
A better substitute for the Chadwicks 477 is Berroco Ultra Alpaca Fine Yarn - color 1214. It is spot on wet and dry. Nothing else is even close.
I won't doubt it, Bob; it sounds like you've tried quite a few substitutions! ;-) Tim
Yup, all the ones commonly known and a few that aren't as well know
good luck finding it
Where do you find Berroco Ultra Alpaca Fine Yarn - color 1214?
Tim you mentioned in the description tying in a soft hackle? Is there a video with the soft hackle in it? Thanks
Anthony, I don't have a Utah Killer Bug video featuring a hackle, but here is a general idea of what I'm referring to: ua-cam.com/video/6utRbz70eEk/v-deo.html Thanks for checking, and I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Love Edredge Bros!!!!
Eldredge Bros.
They're great! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Schuylkill county watching here bud great video
Thanks, Patrick, and glad you're watching! Hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Great fly.
Thanks, Russell, and I just wonder how tall I look in this video?!? ;-) It was GREAT talking at the show and hope to run into you again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
if i could use only one fly the rest of my life it would be a crane fly larvae..just stupid how well this ball of yarn works..i tie my hotspot in the rear..and it seems to me the hotspot version always works a bit better..so much easier to apply lead with a bobbin..i also use the same yarn and i put a few feet of it on an empty thread spool and use a bobbin,,makes it easy to apply and twist the yarn..have you ever put on your lead over a thread base? it will not move and makes life easier..a few tricks ive learned in my 30 years as a tyer.i also have spit the yarn in half and then you can whip finish or just half hitch the yarn and not even use thread..happy tying.
Excellent comments, termite122 ; I really appreciate them. Do you mind sharing what you use for a hotspot? Also, I used to move lead over thread, but really haven't had a need to do so. Movement is not really my primary concern; I like to ensure that the lead is not seen through the material, hence the buildup of thread on certain patterns. BTW....such a great idea to just use yarn minus any thread, which will work great on small patterns. Thanks again! TC
tim i usually have used a dubbed hot spot on my unweighted flies and a globrite floss hot spot on weighted flies just so i could tell the difference when chosing a fly..ive gone to basically just thread hot spots now using globrite floss number 5 as my primary choice..i have noticed at times the fish do prefer the hotspot in the rear as opposed to the front..which i find facinating but absolutely true..
my comment about the lead applied over a thread base just makes it much easier to break the ends as it doesnt move when wrapped on a thread base..
have u ever used uni stretch to cover your lead and build your underbodies? amazing stuff..i tie alot of fully dressed atlantic salmon flies and the uni stretch has been a life saver eliminating 5000 wraps of thread for a very smooth and very easy to achieve underbody..especially when im tying a lot of display flies with all floss bodies that the slightest imperfection of the underbody will show..
termite122 I haven't used the UNI Stretch yet in that application, but really like it. Great idea for that, and I'm definitely going to check it out. Tim
Simple is always good, funny how we can complicate everything even though simple older patterns still work.
That is so true, Kerry...thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim
Quick question, have you ever heard of a dk scud? Looks just like this but you use dubbing instead.
I have not heard of that scud; what kind/color dubbing does it call for? Thanks...TC
Where do you find the Jamison's Shetland Spindrift Oyster #290?
Hi, Gregory, and there is a link in the description of this video. If that is sold out, then I recommend a Google search for it. Shoot me an email if you need more help: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for checking! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
nice shirt Tim , and great fly
Ha ha, thanks, Mark! TC
Here is where I source the yarn for this fly: www.paradisefibers.com/products/jamiesons-shetland-spindrift-yarn-oyster-290#readmore
Thanks, Robert, and as of October 2019, the material I now use for this fly is: competitiveangler.com/shop/body-materials/wool-yarn/semperfli-chadwick-477-substitute-wool/ I made the change because it allows me to spin the yarn tigher, creating a much more naturally-ribbed body. If you have the chance to get some, lmk what you think. Thanks again for sharing. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
This looks like Frank's killer bug one of best fly's ever
It's a very similar pattern, though with a different material. Good eye! TC
i like in state college
It's a river killer！！！
No doubt about that, it's a fly that continues to produce! Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
It would appear several viewers have raised concerns, regarding the origins of this pattern in the "Comments" section. That said, I'd like to invite viewers to review the Tenkara Guides comment below (Utah Killer Bug/Tenkara Guides). , and to the video (ua-cam.com/video/Yd_quJxzSI4/v-deo.html) ERiK posted two years prior. Not only because I live in Salt Lake City, but also because I believe in giving credit where credit is due. Don't get me wrong. This is a great pattern, and I do enjoy seeing variations, but each time I watch your video, it bothers me that you mention your buddy, "Tom" a dozen times, but not Frank Sawyer, the creator of the original Killer Bug or Tenkara Guides, who spent many hours updating the original to the Utah Killer Bug.
+troutbum61 I appreciate you taking a moment to comment, and the fly shown in the video is the Utah Killer Bug, a modified and easier version of Frank Sawyer's Killer Bug. In the video, credit was given to my friend Tom for introducing me to the pattern and its variations (also encouraging me to share it with others, something not so common in fly fishing and fly tying). Many have posted its origins in this "Comments" section, whereas I also mention those in the "Description" of the video. I'm sorry you have to mute the video, but glad you're at least watching it. ;-) If there is a misunderstanding regarding credit given, I apologize for not making that clear. Thanks ago for revising your comment, Dave, and I appreciate you posting the link. Tim
it looks kinda like a wax worm.
Now that you say that, it does, Josh! Not that I've ever used wax worms... ;-) Thanks for taking a moment to comment, and I hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Tim Cammisa I feed my bearded dragon wax worms and he loves them they are like candy to my bearded dragon if I'm not mistaken wax worms are high in fat so it's no wonder why trout like them crappie also love wax worms and fly larvae aka maggots. I enjoy your videos and have been watching a lot of them in the last few days keep them up great job
I never looked at it that way, but great catch on this pattern. Thanks for the kind words and for letting me know about the other videos. Tim
I wonder what percentage of fly tyers in America have used that same pattern coffee cup within the last week?
Ha ha, that's a great question!
I just wondered since I had. They were a gift from my wife while we were dating. On a serious note, do you have any tips for getting revenue out of fly tying? I started wholesaling at the age of ten, but left it behind more than twenty years ago. Is it even feasible to do for profit anymore?
To be honest, I rarely sell flies, thus I would recommend checking out a forum, such as flytyingforum.com, to ask others. If you are considering selling a local pattern to a fly shop in your area, it may be profitable, but something you'll have to work out with them.
By "cress bug/scud" are you saying they are the same thing or are you saying it works for both? Because cress bugs and scuds are two different bugs.
Hi Kelly, thanks for checking. This pattern tends to be one that's imitative of many insects, including caddisflies, cress bugs, scuds, and others. Hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com/