yeah, i kind of hate how theres alomst zero inventive for protecting bombers. I stopped playing war thunder when 3/4 players only played fighters and focused on dog fights in the middle of the map and left the bombers and ground strike to do their own thing. I played a match where i took down half the ground targets by myself and lost all my bombers doing it.
@@arthas640 When I play a bomber and say,"Cover me",anyone starts crying,"no I have to attack ground targets as a fighter,or they are somewhere,dogfighting and spamm,"cover me",I mean I´m not really good,but at least I understand the game.The rewards should be between 1000 and 3000.
Apparently gaijin has never played arcade in a public server. Attackers get mauled as soon as they get close to ground targets due to map design. And fix the pill box and medium tank hit boxes. I’ve had direct hit bounce numerous times.
Fighters spawn on Air They are too high, bombers died easily Fighters spawn on Airfield They are too low, can't cover the bombers You can't please everyone Gaijin
Ehm. You're not fighting only with enemy team. You're trying to dodge your team mates while they are tunnel vision on someone and doesn't even care where its going, you're trying to dodge your team mates bullets because they are trying to "steal" your kill also finishing your life. Its way too hard then RB i guess. :D
Where have you been? Fighters wont cover you. They couldn't be bothered in WT to escort bombers or attack planes. Gaijin has pretty well made that impossible anyway. No plane spawns high enough and fast enough to ever catch a bomber to escort it. In IL2. fighters cover you all the time. The problem is, WT has gone out of its way to make it so fighters cannot escort bombers, and have perpetrated this philosophy that bombers and ground attack are useless. Gaijin even went so far as to lower the rewards for bomber and attack planes to the point where it is not worth taking them out because of the ridiculous repair costs and costs of bombs, rockets and ammo. Now we have it that not even 2X1000 kg bombs dropped on a pill box will do any damage. There is no splash affect. Planes can fly right through a bombs explosion and receive no damage (So much for the "surprise" award). Nope Gaijin has pretty much destroyed anything to do with ground attack and bombers. For escorting bombers, attackers and fun doing ground attacks and close air support, play IL2 Sturmovik.
Last patch they fixed the issue with bombs rarely doing damage. Bombers and attackers are not useless, but about 3/4 matches is won by shooting down planes. The rest by destruction of ground targets/bases, but yeah, victory by plane kill is standard. Other than that i agree with you.
you can't kill a pillbox with 2 1000kg bombs... i can kill a pillbox with 2 1000 lbs bombs in rb (1 1000lbs bomb in ab) which is ~ half the size of the 1000kg bombs, and in tank rb i've killed planes and tank in the same bomb drop.
So... let's see... I actually climb to my team mates bomber and escort him... no one dares to touch it... he drops 30.000 TNTs and gets huge score and rewards... emmm... and what do I get for escorting him? Oh... and speaking of high tier bombing... you can climb your ass off in a bomber but at high tier all the fighters can get you right out from their spawn... costs of bombs are rediculus high... rewards were nerfed... repair costs are rediculus high... yeah... good luck with the bombers... I'm so happy all the devs energy is going into ships now... and tier 6 tanks... with all the problems at all the levels this game has... that's so nice... R.I.P. warthunder...
i quit playing after bombers became more and more expensive the higher tier you got while the relative rewards stayed close to the same and it took longer and longer to reach the objectives. When it take a bomber half the match to reach the right altitude, get in postion over enemy targets, and drop their bombs but it takes the enemy fighter a few minutes and they can turn you into swiss cheese it becomes really pointless, especial since theres zero incentive for your allies to protect you.
What do you get for escorting him? A greater chance of victory which means 120% rp bonus.. victory depends on PTFO in most cases, so it's in your best interest to escort that bomber, Most players don't like to teamwork as it is which makes winning games very hard
@@texturizer6224 you didn't get the point... when I escort I don't make any kills... so what good is 120% RP to me? Besides this is 2 years old comment... meta has changed... now it's dive and drop again...
I like how he said " Ask a fighter to cover you" as if war thunder players work together when flying, from personal experience, Get some friends into a squad and jump on discord or Teamspeak and work together from there even then its a terror to get into a decent formation seeing how fighters spawn on the ground and bombers spawn 2 km above them and how if a bomber spawns on the ground it takes him ages to get to a safe alt before just being mulched by enemy fire, anything else is nearly impossible and pointless to even try, Seening how most players in random battles are self centered and only caring for him or her self.
Cut down on hypocrisy and give IL-2 it's 4 containers of 48 HEAT ПТАБ 2.5-1.5 bomblets? Oh, wait, that one is probably reserved to become premium later on:D
so far I've been playing this game for about a year and in my entire bloody career I only have had 12 strangers escort me, I think that war thunders tutorial should include escorting bombers so that people with fighters are more likely to escort bombers because nowadays you need to rush to your bombing site say bombs away and get shot down by a high flying bf-109, or if you're lucky you can get away with all the bases destroyed but I've only had that a couple of times as well.
5:50 My longest Arcade Match lasted 30 minutes and I won by taking the Airfeild out and the 4 bases on my own without escort (I was at 20000 feet) and I got 14k sl for the Airfeild kill and won.
One solution to the Ground Strike problem: rework Fighters into Interceptors and Escorts. Like in real life, fighters would intercept or escort the bombers to targets and back. Interceptors get something like 1.5x rewards for a bomber kill, Escorts get about 2x rewards for killing Interceptors but lose points for their assigned bomber dying. That way, it’s more realistic and fun for bomber players.
I hate when you have played War Thunder so much and switch to another game that has tanks in them and you think "Does this RPG really penetrate that tank?"
how to use a bomber in tank rb 1. spawn 2. get shot at by everything in the air and on the ground before u can even get high enough alt 3. get shot down and return to hanger
Not to mention anything under 500lbs does seem to do anything anymore. like if you drop it 1m away from a tank it doesn't kill it but in ground battles thats over kill. MAKE YOU BOMBS CONSTANT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BOMB MORE PRECISELY IN AIR BATTLES THAN GROUND BATTLES AT THE SAME TARGET WITH THE SAME BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with how focused fighers are on dog fighting and as piss poor as the bombs are I jsut end up taking a medium or heavy bomber and using it like a tactical bomber. I've done dive bombing with heavy bombers and simply carpet bombed entire armored columns and half the time everyone doesnt even notice.
i actually do that sort fo stuff alot, fighter are too concered with dog fighting to notice. kind of sad that i can use a heavy bomber as a dive bomber and carpet bomb an entire armored column.
You need to do something with bombers: they are really too easy targets because nobody protect them. I suggest to improve the damage caused by bombers gunners or to reward who protect a bomber
or increase gunner accuracy because they have the aim of a storm trooper i norm get attacked as i am about to drop bombs and if i have to manually use my gunners in order for them to hit anything than i cant drop bombs and if i dont control them then i die and cant drop bombs her in lies the problem
As an arcade player, also see what planes your enemies have. Big thing is to avoid Japanese aircraft, or extend if your first strike on them doesn't kill them (low BR mainly, I'm not to jets yet)
How about dynamic BR when equipping bomb onto fighters, most of those have skewed BR because of this. Make an option that lower the BR before the match if you choose not to have bombs available in-game.
I honestly am more efficient playing in Ground Realistic Battles as a CAS... And it feels right, somehow. But hey, this video isn't about this. Somehow this video makes me play Air Realistic more often. IDK why.
The premise of trying to fight while carrying bombs (ex: P-47) is right, IF you try that. Most of the time I bomb then dogfight or, if enemy plane is too close, I ditch my bombs and engage the plane. RARELY will I try to shoot other aircraft (usually medium bombers or low-maneuverability planes) while carrying my bomb load.
My personal advice if your bombing a stationary location like for example a base set a timer delay then drop bombs and run to protection of your fighters
Look for team mates being tailed by red, just casually fly past like yer on a different mission, then circle around behind the 3 reds who are cutting your team mate ap art, and make the kill. Many times your able to disrupt the enemy by popping off a few rounds between them... Ok, time to go play...
“Escort your bombers”, by the time you get to their altitude he’s already 25Km Out And “Naval Fighters” which are bassicly just Fighters already have killed 75% of your bombers
WT always call upon its real ness, but in real life, people in bombers could walk around and repair parts of the plane, also, fighter aircraft shouldn’t spawn 2 feet higher than bombers. I tried playing bombers in tier 2 and lost 200,000 silver eagles even though I bombed 2 bases to their full extent, also, there should be more of a reward for escorting bombers than just “bomber rescuer”, because my friends will spend half the match just climbing to help escort me as I slowly run out of fuel, and by the time I reach the enemy bases all my friends are dead or to damaged to fight, while im getting half the enemy team destroying my B-17 because all the enemy’s are in the dead zone somehow, I enjoy the game but it should be more fair for bomber pilots and the people who are nice enough to actually escort bombers
Oh and could you please add a penalty for shooting at already dead players, because I’ve lost so many crew members to people shooting at me even though I am spiraling out of control and pose no threat to them
please bring us the arcade maps and the Ground strike mode for realistic battles these maps are way more interesting because of the hills and multi targets etc.
Hey War Thunder Dev team when you gonna fix the BR on matchmaking? I can't play german tree anymore, because the king tiger is a WWII tank and evry other nation at the same BR have cold war tank. Make german tree Great Again!!!
Notice at 1:37 how easilly a vehicle can be spotted on ground (this is AI) from the smoke produced, in random battles can run around compleetly undetected, this is rediculus guys, fix it plz.
You don’t play close air support in air arcade but I you want to play attack aircraft and bombers do it in air rb. I have found the community in air rb to communicate and sometimes cover you.
I must say i see you had some right intentions, and half of the tips you mentioned in this video are actually good, but everything related to bombers mentioned in this video is WRONG!
PS. Trying to escort bombers in AB is kinda a horrible idea, cus you either die trying to defend them and then leave them without escort, or they die because they get killed by an approaching enemy fighter literally before you could aim at it.
Sorry I'm a bit late to the party guys as I had stopped playing War Thunder exactly for this reason (plus the maddening repair costs). However, if any of you bombardiers are interested, the is a really simple and practical solution for bombers to get guaranteed cover. If you're interested, you're welcome to join this squadron and see the difference: warthunder.com/en/community/claninfo/Long-Range%20Fighter%20Escort facebook.com/CoverMe.WT Squadron nick is [COVER]
I pretty much instantly went with Realistic mode. Arcade made it too casual-like and there is no stealth element to the game, which removes a lot of fun.
It depends on how you play, such as diving into a furball and netting a kill or 3 and then dying, *or* climbing, for example, and then stallfighting/rope a doping/ boom and zooming
You should actually do a ground striking in rb, with all these changes to rockets and bombs and no virtual bombsite anymore. Also hope you lose that cold soon.
Can you please make the challenger tank 9.3 BR Britain the real thing like the same exact thing but in a game and era on the sides and front as my dad served in one
I know this video is a year old but: Funny how they made a ground attack video on arcade battles and not realistic, it's like they know that bombers and attackers are less useful in that mode.
"Drive those pesky fighters away from your bombers operational altitude" No one ever took that advice. Me personally, I never appear in my heavy bomber above 2000ft after taking off from the field. It rather surprisingly works and I find I more often get a fighter escort.
@@an2939 I've started flying high again with certain bombers as of this new update. I mostly play British bombers and for example their Lancasters work better on the deck while the Shackleton works better in a diving base run from bomber altitude and the likes of some of the others you need to climb. It's situational and depends on the plane.
Wish there were better game modes. Not too into the whole spwn points thing... just want to fly my planes !! Custom battles are no fun either. Help us !!
La France est déjà présente. Pour L'Italie ça devrait pas tarder j'imagine vu que Gaijin avait dit avant la fin de l'année comme pour les forces navales.
When sooo Xbox players have the ability to squad up with pc players? Also can Xbox players squad up with other Xbox players? (Very few people play warthunder on the Xbox) also I’ve noticed an issue it could possibly be at my end, but occasionally I meet players in battle who have mics, but I hook up my mic and they can’t seem to hear me, any tips ? Thanks
@@dustinsmith8812 it's all good man, so, if you go to the war thunder page on your Xbox (there's a tab for it) and go to the muliplayer tab on the warthunder page, it will show what's called "looking for group" posts, people post these who are trying to squad up. Xbox has it for every game. You can post one yourself too.
Rewards for escorting bombers and playing them should be higher.
Let It be nice
Yeah I think all rewards for teamwork or rescuer should be majorly buffed
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yeah, i kind of hate how theres alomst zero inventive for protecting bombers. I stopped playing war thunder when 3/4 players only played fighters and focused on dog fights in the middle of the map and left the bombers and ground strike to do their own thing. I played a match where i took down half the ground targets by myself and lost all my bombers doing it.
@@arthas640 When I play a bomber and say,"Cover me",anyone starts crying,"no I have to attack ground targets as a fighter,or they are somewhere,dogfighting and spamm,"cover me",I mean I´m not really good,but at least I understand the game.The rewards should be between 1000 and 3000.
Apparently gaijin has never played arcade in a public server. Attackers get mauled as soon as they get close to ground targets due to map design. And fix the pill box and medium tank hit boxes. I’ve had direct hit bounce numerous times.
that's why i play strike fighters and dive bomber with actual weapons
i often play medium bombers for this very reason, you can drop 2 bombs for 1 target if you need.
I usually use attack aircraft like the ju-87 stuka, never had a serious problem except with agile fighters
Fighters spawn on Air
They are too high, bombers died easily
Fighters spawn on Airfield
They are too low, can't cover the bombers
You can't please everyone Gaijin
Asking Teammates for cover?! Most players are not that kind.
Definitely, that's a rare thing to come across
i've tried to be a bomber escort in planes and i simply cannot catch up lots of the time
I beg to differ
Most players are nice enough to help you
But the new players are the one that is being completely oblivious
the problem is, there isn't any form of reward to playing as bomber escort...
@@mikeyh984 the thing is there is no such thing as Bomber Escort
There are Heavy Fighters, they are the closest thing to a Bomber Escort
Ehm. You're not fighting only with enemy team. You're trying to dodge your team mates while they are tunnel vision on someone and doesn't even care where its going, you're trying to dodge your team mates bullets because they are trying to "steal" your kill also finishing your life. Its way too hard then RB i guess. :D
rarely had this issue
That's only really an issue if you fly like a plonker and dive into a furball, hoping to out turn everything there, including teammates
Where have you been? Fighters wont cover you. They couldn't be bothered in WT to escort bombers or attack planes. Gaijin has pretty well made that impossible anyway. No plane spawns high enough and fast enough to ever catch a bomber to escort it. In IL2. fighters cover you all the time. The problem is, WT has gone out of its way to make it so fighters cannot escort bombers, and have perpetrated this philosophy that bombers and ground attack are useless. Gaijin even went so far as to lower the rewards for bomber and attack planes to the point where it is not worth taking them out because of the ridiculous repair costs and costs of bombs, rockets and ammo. Now we have it that not even 2X1000 kg bombs dropped on a pill box will do any damage. There is no splash affect. Planes can fly right through a bombs explosion and receive no damage (So much for the "surprise" award). Nope Gaijin has pretty much destroyed anything to do with ground attack and bombers. For escorting bombers, attackers and fun doing ground attacks and close air support, play IL2 Sturmovik.
i dont see anything true exept for playing on the IL-2
Last patch they fixed the issue with bombs rarely doing damage.
Bombers and attackers are not useless, but about 3/4 matches is won by shooting down planes. The rest by destruction of ground targets/bases, but yeah, victory by plane kill is standard.
Other than that i agree with you.
U are the best! Because u are the first who can say this to war thunder. Thanks
IL2 was grear, but only a few players.
you can't kill a pillbox with 2 1000kg bombs... i can kill a pillbox with 2 1000 lbs bombs in rb (1 1000lbs bomb in ab) which is ~ half the size of the 1000kg bombs, and in tank rb i've killed planes and tank in the same bomb drop.
How to play CAS in Arcade: You don't.
yeah, you kind of do...
Until a 8.8 flak truck obliterates your teammates, yes you don't CAS.
Well you can but use attackers and do NOT be too fast
So... let's see... I actually climb to my team mates bomber and escort him... no one dares to touch it... he drops 30.000 TNTs and gets huge score and rewards... emmm... and what do I get for escorting him?
Oh... and speaking of high tier bombing... you can climb your ass off in a bomber but at high tier all the fighters can get you right out from their spawn... costs of bombs are rediculus high... rewards were nerfed... repair costs are rediculus high... yeah... good luck with the bombers...
I'm so happy all the devs energy is going into ships now... and tier 6 tanks... with all the problems at all the levels this game has... that's so nice... R.I.P. warthunder...
i quit playing after bombers became more and more expensive the higher tier you got while the relative rewards stayed close to the same and it took longer and longer to reach the objectives. When it take a bomber half the match to reach the right altitude, get in postion over enemy targets, and drop their bombs but it takes the enemy fighter a few minutes and they can turn you into swiss cheese it becomes really pointless, especial since theres zero incentive for your allies to protect you.
2 years later, ships still look bloody atrocious and play bloody atrocious compared to World of Warships (don't bite more than you can chew....)
What do you get for escorting him? A greater chance of victory which means 120% rp bonus.. victory depends on PTFO in most cases, so it's in your best interest to escort that bomber, Most players don't like to teamwork as it is which makes winning games very hard
@@texturizer6224 you didn't get the point... when I escort I don't make any kills... so what good is 120% RP to me? Besides this is 2 years old comment... meta has changed... now it's dive and drop again...
Kinda hard to be good in low br arcade since BF109's are better in every way than you...
Nah u just bad
You have to outfly them, most 109 pilots just dive into a furball and net a kill or 3 before dying and are easy to predict
@@Reyeoux if enemy's using 109s don't get spit from friendlys because I fly that plane that who i would go after
@@Reyeoux and if they don't and you're about equal skill, then you're fucked. Your point?
I like how he said " Ask a fighter to cover you" as if war thunder players work together when flying, from personal experience, Get some friends into a squad and jump on discord or Teamspeak and work together from there even then its a terror to get into a decent formation seeing how fighters spawn on the ground and bombers spawn 2 km above them and how if a bomber spawns on the ground it takes him ages to get to a safe alt before just being mulched by enemy fire, anything else is nearly impossible and pointless to even try, Seening how most players in random battles are self centered and only caring for him or her self.
Cut down on hypocrisy and give IL-2 it's 4 containers of 48 HEAT ПТАБ 2.5-1.5 bomblets? Oh, wait, that one is probably reserved to become premium later on:D
Can I have I link to look at them just for shits and gigs pls
Still no Lancaster with a 10 ton grand slam bomb
How to get better: Realistic Battles
1. Get a plane with high climb rate
2. Fly into space
3. ???
4. profit
Olli Laine the 3 is oil
you cant..
@@ollilaine6763 then you don't earn lions or XP. So go ahead
You boom and zoom from high altitudes.
so far I've been playing this game for about a year and in my entire bloody career I only have had 12 strangers escort me, I think that war thunders tutorial should include escorting bombers so that people with fighters are more likely to escort bombers because nowadays you need to rush to your bombing site say bombs away and get shot down by a high flying bf-109, or if you're lucky you can get away with all the bases destroyed but I've only had that a couple of times as well.
5:50 My longest Arcade Match lasted 30 minutes and I won by taking the Airfeild out and the 4 bases on my own without escort (I was at 20000 feet) and I got 14k sl for the Airfeild kill and won.
"Dont go near the ground targets"
Me: Laughs in dive bomber
One solution to the Ground Strike problem: rework Fighters into Interceptors and Escorts. Like in real life, fighters would intercept or escort the bombers to targets and back. Interceptors get something like 1.5x rewards for a bomber kill, Escorts get about 2x rewards for killing Interceptors but lose points for their assigned bomber dying. That way, it’s more realistic and fun for bomber players.
How to Get Better: A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y
It's almost harvesting season so Bannerlord When!
0:11 "you probably never had any problems with those"
me, a new player: *heavy breathing*
Map surface: Imma bout to end this man's whole career
I hate when you have played War Thunder so much and switch to another game that has tanks in them and you think "Does this RPG really penetrate that tank?"
how to use a bomber in tank rb
1. spawn
2. get shot at by everything in the air and on the ground before u can even get high enough alt
3. get shot down and return to hanger
Not to mention anything under 500lbs does seem to do anything anymore. like if you drop it 1m away from a tank it doesn't kill it but in ground battles thats over kill. MAKE YOU BOMBS CONSTANT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BOMB MORE PRECISELY IN AIR BATTLES THAN GROUND BATTLES AT THE SAME TARGET WITH THE SAME BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with how focused fighers are on dog fighting and as piss poor as the bombs are I jsut end up taking a medium or heavy bomber and using it like a tactical bomber. I've done dive bombing with heavy bombers and simply carpet bombed entire armored columns and half the time everyone doesnt even notice.
Do Artillery only!
I just felt like adding this. Yes while the point of air battles is to destroy/capture the objectives, the majority of the fun is in crazy dogfights.
Better plan, b-17 flying at 300 ft for tank and billbox removal
i actually do that sort fo stuff alot, fighter are too concered with dog fighting to notice. kind of sad that i can use a heavy bomber as a dive bomber and carpet bomb an entire armored column.
You need to do something with bombers: they are really too easy targets because nobody protect them. I suggest to improve the damage caused by bombers gunners or to reward who protect a bomber
or increase gunner accuracy because they have the aim of a storm trooper i norm get attacked as i am about to drop bombs and if i have to manually use my gunners in order for them to hit anything than i cant drop bombs and if i dont control them then i die and cant drop bombs her in lies the problem
and make a certain amount of planes each game be able to spawn near a bomber. Something like that.
@@bullshitdepartment like a squadmate or things like that
@@an2939 ye
"Just do it. Do it a lot."
_Yeah I'd be broke far before that there mate._
yeah, thats the idea behind pay to win games. you either turn into cannon fodder for the pay to win crowd or you go broke winning.
4:43 double messerschmitt bf-109😳
maybe give more incentive to fighters to actually cover attackers and bombers, especially in RB where we are exceedingly vulnerable
As an arcade player, also see what planes your enemies have. Big thing is to avoid Japanese aircraft, or extend if your first strike on them doesn't kill them (low BR mainly, I'm not to jets yet)
If your a fighter and you get over an enemy base and don’t see any allied bombers there then don’t be surprised
No one care about bombers they really dont
How about dynamic BR when equipping bomb onto fighters, most of those have skewed BR because of this.
Make an option that lower the BR before the match if you choose not to have bombs available in-game.
I thought about this too, only for Tanks who get HEATFS. They become nearly OP thanks to them (Like M103)
6:38 *"Thats a lotta damage"*
I honestly am more efficient playing in Ground Realistic Battles as a CAS... And it feels right, somehow.
But hey, this video isn't about this.
Somehow this video makes me play Air Realistic more often. IDK why.
air rb as ground attack is fun in a strike fighter, like the typhoon mk1b
I've once made 36 ground kills with the rockets of the Hurricane mkIIB
the best show for me in a while
The premise of trying to fight while carrying bombs (ex: P-47) is right, IF you try that. Most of the time I bomb then dogfight or, if enemy plane is too close, I ditch my bombs and engage the plane. RARELY will I try to shoot other aircraft (usually medium bombers or low-maneuverability planes) while carrying my bomb load.
When he said get a fighter or two to cover you I laughed
This narrator is pretty great. I'll have to watch more videos to see if he shows up again.
My personal advice if your bombing a stationary location like for example a base set a timer delay then drop bombs and run to protection of your fighters
Look for team mates being tailed by red, just casually fly past like yer on a different mission, then circle around behind the 3 reds who are cutting your team mate ap art, and make the kill.
Many times your able to disrupt the enemy by popping off a few rounds between them...
Ok, time to go play...
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“Escort your bombers”, by the time you get to their altitude he’s already 25Km Out And “Naval Fighters” which are bassicly just Fighters already have killed 75% of your bombers
#ArtilleryOnly
NO! NOT HERE!
Fok off mate :)
yessss yessss
Cro Games we have the same strategy (except I don't play air arcade too often)
@@jacksonschumacher175 more
well, maybe if you gain something scorting a bomber it will be easier for them, like a medal for each target a bomber takes while you scort it
I mostly play German dive bombers and focus on flak guns(AAA) and it is pretty good for taking about them and most other targets around them
WT always call upon its real ness, but in real life, people in bombers could walk around and repair parts of the plane, also, fighter aircraft shouldn’t spawn 2 feet higher than bombers. I tried playing bombers in tier 2 and lost 200,000 silver eagles even though I bombed 2 bases to their full extent, also, there should be more of a reward for escorting bombers than just “bomber rescuer”, because my friends will spend half the match just climbing to help escort me as I slowly run out of fuel, and by the time I reach the enemy bases all my friends are dead or to damaged to fight, while im getting half the enemy team destroying my B-17 because all the enemy’s are in the dead zone somehow, I enjoy the game but it should be more fair for bomber pilots and the people who are nice enough to actually escort bombers
Oh and could you please add a penalty for shooting at already dead players, because I’ve lost so many crew members to people shooting at me even though I am spiraling out of control and pose no threat to them
please bring us the arcade maps and the Ground strike mode for realistic battles these maps are way more interesting because of the hills and multi targets etc.
For some reason I can’t respawn in ground arcade more than 3 times, & why can we equip aircraft in our ground presets when we play arcade
I'm pretty sure he wanted to say "victory will be ours" but no references are allowed
Thanks for telling gajin!
hey do you mind reviving high tier planes first and then make a guide
@Tzeentch for starters make the bombers useful,fix sparks and fix the map rotation
@Tzeentch well...i can't argue with that
GAIJN! we must talk.., we need some higher spawn areas but i guess its possible to get a good fighter up to altitude but that takes ages
Artillery Only Artillery Only Artillery Only
@@skyguard155 Lolololololol
Hey War Thunder Dev team when you gonna fix the BR on matchmaking? I can't play german tree anymore, because the king tiger is a WWII tank and evry other nation at the same BR have cold war tank. Make german tree Great Again!!!
I Believe i had a game that lasted 3 minutes cuz my teamates only went for kills and not ground targets and i lost
Mines went for ground targets but we were overwhelmed
Why do 4 bases do nothing but 5 tanks killed wins the game
Me in a bomber: types in chat ” can someone cover me
Team: No thats so unnecessary
Me after 4 mins: Dead
RB OR AB?
Make flying within .5km of a bomber give SL based on time spent in vicinity. there problem fixed with escorting.
here is what I do 1. go to airstrips 2. take out planes after bombing and bomb again once I have it again 3. when fighting take out bombers 4. repeat
Notice at 1:37 how easilly a vehicle can be spotted on ground (this is AI) from the smoke produced, in random battles can run around compleetly undetected, this is rediculus guys, fix it plz.
1:52 real footage of spitfire (British) firing at b24 (American)
You don’t play close air support in air arcade but I you want to play attack aircraft and bombers do it in air rb. I have found the community in air rb to communicate and sometimes cover you.
Asking your random teammates for cover is like asking a hippopotamus to write the script of a new blockbuster movie, it just isn’t happening.
The problem with PS4 is no one cares about the ground targets and go for aircraft kills instead and no one cares about team work especially on arcade
What’s teamwork
Meanwhile: arcade fighter pilots be like. "Time to spawn kill the enemy"
but... in WT the fighter dont cover you and allied bombers steal the base you selected
You got to the base and it's already destroyed
Artillery Only needs to stop, its getting old
5:03 When there is 3 other Ju 288s on the team
just add a spawn for fighters at 4000m in the air,gaijicles,plz fix
I must say i see you had some right intentions, and half of the tips you mentioned in this video are actually good, but everything related to bombers mentioned in this video is WRONG!
PS. Trying to escort bombers in AB is kinda a horrible idea, cus you either die trying to defend them and then leave them without escort, or they die because they get killed by an approaching enemy fighter literally before you could aim at it.
roses are red
your energy is high
the only problem is
my opponment watched this too many times
Is this a reupload?Warthunder Explain im now using the hurricanes with rocket now im so hard to use flaps because the speed
Can you explain why only one break off?
@@kzytproduction3931 cuz you fly too fast to use your flaps....
Dont fly brits if you really want to use flaps
Wait, is this a thing in Arcade?
I thought they break only in Realistic and Simulator (I learned that the hard way)
@@AndrewVasirov ground strike in ab doesnt require any actual skill
Sorry I'm a bit late to the party guys as I had stopped playing War Thunder exactly for this reason (plus the maddening repair costs). However, if any of you bombardiers are interested, the is a really simple and practical solution for bombers to get guaranteed cover. If you're interested, you're welcome to join this squadron and see the difference:
warthunder.com/en/community/claninfo/Long-Range%20Fighter%20Escort
facebook.com/CoverMe.WT
Squadron nick is [COVER]
Been playing this since 2014. How to get better at bombing?...squad with us.
i watch all your videos but i can't play the game as i don't have anything to play it on 😂 but i asked for a computer for my birthday
I pretty much instantly went with Realistic mode. Arcade made it too casual-like and there is no stealth element to the game, which removes a lot of fun.
It depends on how you play, such as diving into a furball and netting a kill or 3 and then dying, *or* climbing, for example, and then stallfighting/rope a doping/ boom and zooming
Looks like April fools came early....
Even if I have friendly fighters, sometimes people ram me as a last ditch effort
Im gonna die anyway ill just ram u
How to get better at CAS in Arcade: Don't play as German
german have some good cas planes
Or america now... hvars and M8’s are practically useless now
@@Nimori Yeah the only rockets that can somewhat kill tanks are:
1:Tiny ivan
2: rs 132
3:tiny tim
4:s5k
5:rp3
4:
Are they only Fw 190's?
i use bombs not rockets, a German CAS is fine for me
How it Feels to play War Thunder?
HA! Fighters escorting bomber is WT? IN ARCADE? When has that ever happened?
@@Joe-nq6hy then lose the game cuz ur enemy ate all of ur bases
In realistic battles do you regain maneuverability in a fighter after dropping your load?
After this video I can imagine all the Ace fighter pilots waiting for the new bomber pilots, to be easy targets.
Which is the best bomb nation?
You should actually do a ground striking in rb, with all these changes to rockets and bombs and no virtual bombsite anymore. Also hope you lose that cold soon.
Change the spawning system by making fighters spawn higher. Also, make pillboxes much weaker, they are too strong.
Will we Xbox players get to use custom skins with in the next few updates if so this would be so cool ?
War Thunder is like a teacher that deliberately make the Task harder but also tells the Students how to beat every single one of them
What if they plane on your team don’t come to support you?
Can you please make the challenger tank 9.3 BR Britain the real thing like the same exact thing but in a game and era on the sides and front as my dad served in one
you mean add the chally mk3/4... the mk2 didn't have era
I know this video is a year old but: Funny how they made a ground attack video on arcade battles and not realistic, it's like they know that bombers and attackers are less useful in that mode.
Is this a reupload?
"Drive those pesky fighters away from your bombers operational altitude"
No one ever took that advice.
Me personally, I never appear in my heavy bomber above 2000ft after taking off from the field. It rather surprisingly works and I find I more often get a fighter escort.
Me:sees an enemy fighter:rush to his base
i made it to the base dropped my bombs and then died
i lost that match cuz no bomber
@@an2939 I've started flying high again with certain bombers as of this new update.
I mostly play British bombers and for example their Lancasters work better on the deck while the Shackleton works better in a diving base run from bomber altitude and the likes of some of the others you need to climb.
It's situational and depends on the plane.
Wish there were better game modes. Not too into the whole spwn points thing... just want to fly my planes !! Custom battles are no fun either. Help us !!
How do you join combined battles, asking for a friend...
A quand la représentation de la France et de l'Italie ?
La France est déjà présente. Pour L'Italie ça devrait pas tarder j'imagine vu que Gaijin avait dit avant la fin de l'année comme pour les forces navales.
D'accord je regarderai tout sa
When sooo Xbox players have the ability to squad up with pc players? Also can Xbox players squad up with other Xbox players? (Very few people play warthunder on the Xbox) also I’ve noticed an issue it could possibly be at my end, but occasionally I meet players in battle who have mics, but I hook up my mic and they can’t seem to hear me, any tips ? Thanks
Yeah Xbox players can squad up, look at the LFG page from your Xbox
Cancer Sauce I’m sorry I’m rather new to Xbox in generall, what is LFG and thank you, I just don’t know anybody who wants to play warthunder on xbox
@@dustinsmith8812 it's all good man, so, if you go to the war thunder page on your Xbox (there's a tab for it) and go to the muliplayer tab on the warthunder page, it will show what's called "looking for group" posts, people post these who are trying to squad up. Xbox has it for every game. You can post one yourself too.
Cancer Sauce ohhhh thanks!
This is Banes cousin... im convinced.
If my team is desperate like 1 enemy tank and 1 friendly tank usually i just kamikaze to the target
Artillery only?