A Brief History of the Culture Wars

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  • @Tom_Nicholas
    @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +653

    Support me to make more videos like this (whilst getting early access and bonus stuff) by heading to patreon.com/tomnicholas

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +40

      And, as always, thanks for watching!

    • @thisguy8106
      @thisguy8106 3 роки тому +13

      @@Tom_Nicholas thanks for all your hard work!!!!

    • @denvorsden7903
      @denvorsden7903 3 роки тому +16

      Good work. This video has a lot of good content with awesome presentation with the necessary seriousness, sensitivity and scholarship that the topic demands.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +11

      My pleasure-thanks for taking the time to watch!

    • @alexsmith2910
      @alexsmith2910 3 роки тому +4

      Subscribed and loving your content.

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 роки тому +1599

    The Battle of Pepe the frog. We lost many good men that day try to take discord hill

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +293

      Haha, I think all the "what if the culture wars was a real war lol" jokes in the introduction were the reason I had to try and save this one from demonitisation...

    • @carrion1234
      @carrion1234 3 роки тому +75

      Their sacrifice was not in vain, the enemy was forced back into the sewers where the Groypers live.

    • @dandylionsloth446
      @dandylionsloth446 3 роки тому +1

      +

    • @TheMinorityGAMER312
      @TheMinorityGAMER312 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/OKdNw8aDTsA/v-deo.html

    • @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
      @Ayy_Doll_Fiddler 3 роки тому +27

      Kekistanis are the bravest warriors I've ever seen.

  • @MrARock001
    @MrARock001 Рік тому +2000

    The biggest eye-opener for me was the realization that what they really, really, *really* don't want you to do is have any idea of what socialism really is.

    • @pafaxu3757
      @pafaxu3757 Рік тому +13

      What do you mean?

    • @noahandreasen9221
      @noahandreasen9221 Рік тому +15

      What exactly do you mean? (Just rather Said what do you believe socialism is?)

    • @banquetoftheleviathan1404
      @banquetoftheleviathan1404 Рік тому +116

      socialism is a type of food

    • @tannermcateer1463
      @tannermcateer1463 Рік тому +123

      “A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what’s going on. A psychotic is someone who’s found out what’s going on.” -Bill Burroughs

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft Рік тому +1

      really? huh, cuz all i got was "socialism is fucking retarded"

  • @TheGravelInstitute
    @TheGravelInstitute 3 роки тому +2241

    Wow! This is a masterpiece.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +399

      Thanks! Feel free to drop me a line if you ever need a British contributor!

    • @marciamakesmusic
      @marciamakesmusic 3 роки тому +9

      @Akul Rastogi you can like, not watch the whole thing

    • @abdurrazzaq2314
      @abdurrazzaq2314 3 роки тому +11

      @Akul Rastogi it has been divided already into multiple parts, i know long videos can mar comprehension, if you think this is the case watch the whole thing in multiple viewings.

    • @ohmiohwa4199
      @ohmiohwa4199 3 роки тому +38

      @The Gravel Institute
      Give this man a episode.

    • @jm5386
      @jm5386 3 роки тому +12

      It sure is, a masterpiece. Thank you.
      Divisional cultural wars reappeared under Trump, but I would suggest that they had remained throughout, and well engrained in society (especially the religious right) which had 30 years to politically organize with big dark money, indoctrination and political, institutional power. They were just waiting for a Trump.
      Very nicely done....an educational tool.

  • @SecondThought
    @SecondThought 3 роки тому +2954

    You're killing it with these recent videos! Always a great watch.

    • @lavendervonstaro4004
      @lavendervonstaro4004 3 роки тому +33

      How are you?

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +278

      Cheers JT, glad you’ve been enjoying them! Hope you’re well!

    • @Daye04
      @Daye04 3 роки тому +19

      @yezede relegen I think you might have misread, friend

    • @TRex-dd4ze
      @TRex-dd4ze 3 роки тому

      Gotta check out Pat Buchanan's The Death of the West: ua-cam.com/video/RZ5l8_TQmgA/v-deo.html

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 2 роки тому +4

      @yezede relegen not who are you, how, and to add to that description he is some sort of marxist, and criticises the US and in general is against military spending and other stuff

  • @fugitiveunknown7806
    @fugitiveunknown7806 3 роки тому +970

    *noting the lobster*
    Hey kids, remember, Ketamine is a hell of a drug.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +110

      Haha. I'm really glad someone noticed that!

    • @robbiestoly9071
      @robbiestoly9071 3 роки тому +1

      Powdered astral trip.

    • @GnuReligion
      @GnuReligion 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Q_4bp8bBNVw/v-deo.html

    • @126theman
      @126theman 3 роки тому

      How else will we stop the SSE?

    • @Palbizu
      @Palbizu 3 роки тому +10

      @@Tom_Nicholas I immediately knew exactly what you did lmao. Subtle JP jab lmao

  • @Aspensauce64
    @Aspensauce64 2 роки тому +608

    When human rights can be packaged as politics without question, whether people deserve to live with rights and dignity becomes just a matter of opinion

    • @antebagaric1970
      @antebagaric1970 Рік тому

      What ARE 'human rights'? What is the foundation of such an idea? Do animals have 'rights'? How about insects, do they have 'rights'? Plants? Microbes? Viruses? Rocks?

    • @atomictree5000
      @atomictree5000 Рік тому +3

      Too true

    • @solushyperborea
      @solushyperborea Рік тому

      yeah agreed, dont think its a good idea to have people worrying about larping like a video game character about being the wrong gender when our lands are being flooded with infinite orc immigration from ARABIA. we have bigger issues u can be a uwu transgender femboy catboy AFTER WE FIX THIS SHIT

    • @avacadomangobanana2588
      @avacadomangobanana2588 Рік тому +15

      That’s how conservatives want it.

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic Рік тому

      @@avacadomangobanana2588You sound like a radical liberal
      Theres a difference between saying “All gay people are bad” vs disagreeing with yalls wild ideas like math is racist and there are 65 genders and men can get pregnant

  • @emilymoran9152
    @emilymoran9152 3 роки тому +471

    36:38 I love how there is a protest banner stating "If you give artists freedom of expression, soon every American will want it!"...as if that is a bad thing. But I guess that bafflement reveals which side of the culture war I'm on, huh?

    • @tauronmitronion377
      @tauronmitronion377 3 роки тому +108

      I assumed that banner was sarcastic.

    • @Palbizu
      @Palbizu 3 роки тому +19

      Yeah pay a little more attention there. I thought it was bad at first and then I looked into what the picture was

    • @InternetMameluq
      @InternetMameluq 3 роки тому +2

      FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

    • @InternetMameluq
      @InternetMameluq 3 роки тому +82

      @Matthew Reichlin It still is the province of the left. The right wants freedom from expression.

    • @TheEvilCheesecake
      @TheEvilCheesecake 3 роки тому +124

      @Matthew Reichlin maybe think about which side tries to shut down legitimate criticism by shouting "are you triggered lololol" and "why are you bringing politics into this".

  • @jackvac1918
    @jackvac1918 3 роки тому +1115

    "or an interpretation of what is natural." *shows lobster
    _I see what you did there._

    • @kpadjo
      @kpadjo 3 роки тому +114

      Sorry this is really random but I have a serious phobia of lobsters and this comment gave me a heads up to close my eyes at the right moment. Just wanted to let you know you saved someone across the world a lot of anxiety. Thank you 😇

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 3 роки тому +98

      Clean your room

    • @AB-gw6uf
      @AB-gw6uf 3 роки тому +8

      Sorry, but could someone explain this joke? Don't really get it

    • @rogergalindo7318
      @rogergalindo7318 3 роки тому +111

      @@AB-gw6uf i guess is something related to a popular argument or something by Jordan Peterson, in which he argues that the social stricter of lobsters shows hierarchical order in nature. don’t quote me though, i may be wrong

    • @AB-gw6uf
      @AB-gw6uf 3 роки тому +19

      @@rogergalindo7318 Ah okay, that makes sense
      Thanks for the reply

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 роки тому +1089

    It's ironic that Tom's attempt at a balanced perspective between progressivism and conservativism is, itself, inherently progressive, because conservativism, by definition, is not a balanced perspective.

    • @davefrompa5334
      @davefrompa5334 2 роки тому +61

      "Conservatism, by definition, is not a balanced perspective." Really? Why is that? Because you said so?

    • @matta6088
      @matta6088 2 роки тому +285

      @@davefrompa5334 I'd figure that conservatism could be called unbalanced because it is an attitude around self-assuredness that the established way is best, giving no or shallow thought to new ideas.

    • @davefrompa5334
      @davefrompa5334 2 роки тому

      @@matta6088 Yeah? How about this? If something isn't broke, don't fix it, especially if it has a proven track record. That doesn't mean you can't make minor improvements, but you don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Most of the Left's "bold new ideas" are things that have been debunked time and time again, often at the cost of countless people's lives Example-Communism

    • @noishfanboy1141
      @noishfanboy1141 2 роки тому +49

      @@matta6088 I think conservativism Is more about rejecting new ideas and wanting to stick with what works.
      To me I don't think it's inherently imbalanced bc not all new ideas are good and therefore conservativism rejecting all of them is both good and bad depending on what the idea is and how it evens out depends on what the new ideas are in a society

    • @noishfanboy1141
      @noishfanboy1141 2 роки тому +1

      @@dirtydeeds4free553 so your saying that hes progressive but not neccescarily aligning with the typical western progressive values

  • @Jose30Yoga
    @Jose30Yoga 3 роки тому +2084

    This man deserves his phd and a much higher subscriber count

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +483

      Haha, thanks. Almost there with the first thing at least!

    • @kalebmark2908
      @kalebmark2908 3 роки тому +115

      @@Tom_Nicholas You're working on a PHD? that's sick!

    • @TempestAmethyst
      @TempestAmethyst 3 роки тому +72

      I saw this comment and realized I wasn't subscribed despite watching literally hours of this guy's content, so thanks for helping me see the light 😆

    • @jasonboakye4526
      @jasonboakye4526 3 роки тому +7

      @@TempestAmethyst same

    • @ninety1nethagawd
      @ninety1nethagawd 3 роки тому +12

      don't we all deserve comfortable wealth?

  • @tanalincia6314
    @tanalincia6314 3 роки тому +743

    I just have to say how impressed I am at your presentation skills. The creation of the content is of course wonderful but your ability to articulate your points and the flow in which you do it is astonishingly good. You just have a very natural speaking and presentation voice and demeanor that makes listening to and absorbing the material that much easier. Well done.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +65

      Thank you so much, that's very kind of you to say!

    • @tanalincia6314
      @tanalincia6314 3 роки тому +1

      @@linuswang6572 lol okay troll.

    • @TheMinorityGAMER312
      @TheMinorityGAMER312 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/OKdNw8aDTsA/v-deo.html

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 роки тому +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @Squirr3lBoy300
    @Squirr3lBoy300 2 роки тому +292

    I was wondering why you sound so much more vastly educated than the average political UA-camr and it turns out you have a PhD😳 you're very good at this content creation thing!!

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 роки тому +2

      The Right seem
      deep in the Culture-War and to be brutally honest: The Left
      seems to care less. Thats how it looks for me; for me on the Outside.
      But either side is anyway not looking enough at actual, real, not-trivial Issues.
      The Leftists (not Dem's) are just better at adressing Problems.
      Look at the Video "Obvious Solutions to Glaring Problems" by 'Some More News'.
      Be My Guest: See how different the Approach is
      and how problems are actually understood+tackled.

    • @Darticus42
      @Darticus42 Рік тому +20

      He also articulates his points very well and I think has that sort of... I forget how to describe it... slow, methodical manner of speaking that people psychologically tend to associate with thoughtful, deliberately-spoken people.

  • @sophiasuniverse2174
    @sophiasuniverse2174 3 роки тому +415

    Just offering my comment as a sacrifice to the algorithm gods. Don't mind me.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +66

      I appreciate your offering!

    • @eternalism8274
      @eternalism8274 3 роки тому +4

      .

    • @anarchisticauthoritarian228
      @anarchisticauthoritarian228 3 роки тому +6

      +1

    • @Deepishpls
      @Deepishpls 3 роки тому +5

      I think I'm gonna do the same, the algorithm must learn to love this channel

    • @SpectrumDT
      @SpectrumDT 3 роки тому +12

      LIKES FOR THE LIKE GOD
      COMMENTS FOR THE COMMENT THRONE
      In the grim darkness of the social media there is only algorithms.

  • @iamthesword1180
    @iamthesword1180 3 роки тому +668

    German Historian here: The German Kulturkampf was mainly a struggle between the Catholics and the Empire, especially the chancellor Otto von Bismarck. The main goal of Bismarck was to eliminate all church influence from the decision making processes of the state, for example by introducing the civil marriage as a new standard. In Bismarck's mind, a German should not have another major allegiance beside the nation - like for example the Pope in Rome (he called Catholics "Ultramontane" (ultramontanes), stressing their loyalty to another power on the other side of the Alps). Additionally, he hoped to weaken the Catholic party Zentrum, one of the biggest opposition parties in the Empire and a major concurrence for the Conservatives.
    This has to be seen in a wider perspective of his attempt to strengthen the interior cohesion of the young Empire, the first united German National State (founded in 1871), and to secure the power of the Kaiser. Therefore he declared organisations with transnational affiliations "Reichsfeinde" (enemies of the Empire). For the same reason, he attacked the rising Social Democrat movement with the fierce "Sozialistengesetze" (anti-socialist laws).

    • @GreMnMlin
      @GreMnMlin 3 роки тому +39

      If I recall correctly wasn't the Kulturkampf also directed at national minorities like Poles, Silesians, and Kashubians?

    • @philgwellington6036
      @philgwellington6036 3 роки тому +13

      Thank you for the additional information.

    • @iamthesword1180
      @iamthesword1180 3 роки тому +87

      @@GreMnMlin There were repressions against minorities, especially against the Polish which were seen as potential rebels after two upheavals during the 19th century, but those were not strictly part of the Kulturkampf. BUT: There were points were the two fields overlaped, because some minorities (again: especially the Polish) were mostly catholic.

    • @GreMnMlin
      @GreMnMlin 3 роки тому +16

      @@iamthesword1180 thanks for the quick response and the clarification I'd always just grouped the Kulturkampf and Polish repression together

    • @mitchgunzler3737
      @mitchgunzler3737 3 роки тому +27

      If only America’s “Culture War” were an echo of Bismarck!
      1) Bismarck was remarkable and successful in part for waging that “war” with accommodation and compromise. I know this technically happens in the following years, but German national identity was built in part on unifying institutions like national insurance, as he “attacked” Social Democrats by coopting their proposals. America’s Culture War seems to have gone in the opposite direction, with any hint of Social Democracy or compromise radically demonized.
      2) I know it’s considered rude to draw these connections, but the idea of a culture war didn’t exactly disappear after Bismarck, did it? Weren’t the kirchenkampf and other elements important later?

  • @Me-wx1mt
    @Me-wx1mt Рік тому +201

    I’m slightly concerned that this British guy is more educated on American politics than most Americans

    • @avacadomangobanana2588
      @avacadomangobanana2588 Рік тому

      Most Americans aren’t educated

    • @Spingus33
      @Spingus33 Рік тому

      I'm not even surprised, everyone in this country is so dumb lmao

    • @mattyking
      @mattyking Рік тому +58

      I mean no offence by this, but most folk around the world are more educated on American politics than a lot of Americans.
      Thought that's mostly due to the fact that US politics carries with it heavy impacts on the rest of the world, and yet we cannot vote to alter the course the US hegemonic power swings

    • @Me-wx1mt
      @Me-wx1mt Рік тому +26

      @@mattyking no offense taken, you’re speaking facts

    • @banjohero1182
      @banjohero1182 Рік тому +15

      housecats are more educated than most of us on our politics

  • @brigitte7113
    @brigitte7113 3 роки тому +184

    Great video! I'm always blown away by your ability to weave together a coherent story about large amorphous concepts!

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +17

      Thanks Brigitte, that's really kind of you to say! I'm really glad you liked it!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 роки тому

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @IrrationalExuberance
    @IrrationalExuberance 3 роки тому +479

    The main thing I find annoying is the “feedback loop” that shows up. You have reactionaries going one way, then you have overly vigilant progressives trying to seek out the secret reactionaries, then you have annoying “both sides” people. I feel like most of my time these days is trying to convince people I’m not in an “enemy camp” just because I get uncomfortable feeling pressured to select and follow a specific social script which is a big fat red flag for everyone now. It feels like everyone is constantly reacting to reactions against reactions ad infinitum and gets super higher order very fast

    • @MrJack1992
      @MrJack1992 3 роки тому +39

      In short it's like this in the 1950s the Orthodox norm was at its peak. The ideal american society of company men with a stay at home wife and 2-5 kids white picket fence and ideal suburban neighborhood was the goal. By the 1960s it was being challenged by the 70s it was considered dead if not for the rise of neo conservative movements by the 80s/90s neoconservatives rebuilt america in their 50s image albeit with token representation of minorities and females. however by l the early 2010s the Orthodox norm lost massive ground. Trump meanwhile has rekickstarted a sense of neo American nationalism. Many progressives seek to undo some of the most fundamental ideals such as marriage, hetrosexuality, monogamy and etc...
      The progressive camp is finding itself initially In charge in most of the major cultural institutions. While the Orthodox camp is on the outside. Progressives seeking to root out reactionaries at any cost has created serious fault lines in their traditional bases.

    • @englishsteve1465
      @englishsteve1465 3 роки тому +65

      Ah, the "overly vigilant progressive" long have I railed against them ! (in my head of course) - Not because I'm not progressive, but because too often what they do is just score a farcical own goal, handing on a platter an opportunity for mockery to the right and more right leaning media. SJW's and the like really do need to learn how to pick their battles, see the bigger picture.

    • @katerynaufymtseva5073
      @katerynaufymtseva5073 3 роки тому +58

      Being associated with a big group of people because of your beliefs is always a headache. You can't present your opinions or thoughts without some people putting a label on you, so that they can disregard your views and not engage with your ideas. "Oh, you a feminist, ha ha", "Oh, so you're a socialist now" etc.

    • @skycastrum5803
      @skycastrum5803 3 роки тому +17

      @@katerynaufymtseva5073 The purity testing sort of encourages that way of thinking. If a group goes out of its way to kick out anyone not in line, it’s reasonable to assume people who seem attached to the group share the same mould.

    • @katerynaufymtseva5073
      @katerynaufymtseva5073 3 роки тому +15

      @@skycastrum5803 what do you mean by "purity testing"?
      I don't think, you can kick a person out of, say, feminism, for example, can you? The group is not that well defined and tight - it might seem that way from the outside, but there are always people with multiple different opinions.

  • @tomj3352
    @tomj3352 3 роки тому +101

    Hi Tom, great video - I really enjoyed it! In your introduction you seem to suggest that the two camps described by Hunter are opposed because they have different cultures, but in my reading of the book the reason that they are embroiled in this battle is because they share the *same* culture. American culture is not only the field of battle for the conflict, but the prize for winning too. The different players in culture wars are (as you very aptly outlined) defined by their opposing appeals to moral authority, not by their different modes/uses of culture necessarily. I feel like I may be preaching to the choir here, as you clearly have a very strong command of this theory, but perhaps a clearer definition of what we're talking about when we say 'culture' might make this point clearer in the video? To this end, you might enjoy Thomas C. Holt's work 'Marking: Race, Race-making, and the Writing of History' . Thanks again for the video, it was extremely well thought out and articulated!

  • @oxherder9061
    @oxherder9061 3 роки тому +185

    Honestly, over the last few years this channel went from making me go “kinda meh” to being one of my favourites. Keep it up. Love it ❤️

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +48

      Haha, I'll take that as a compliment! Really glad you've been enjoying some of my stuff!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 роки тому +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @jimmymagma8374
    @jimmymagma8374 3 роки тому +195

    first off im only on the introduction so far. when you were talking about the culture war idea being created around religion at first i instantly thought ireland. we've had such a rocky past with catholics and protestants, both through the famine, through land ownership, and through the troubles. that just hit me.
    other than that i really enjoy all your videos and im enjoying this one :) btw you have a very nice smile

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +49

      Yeah, the “culture war” metaphor essentially tried to transpose those kinds of conflicts into contemporary politics. That’s a really interesting parallel to draw!

    • @shizachan8421
      @shizachan8421 Рік тому +1

      Isn't the issue in ireland more one of the protestantic demographic traditionally being associated with the english colonizer class?

  • @avedic
    @avedic 3 роки тому +157

    A Brief History of the Culture Wars
    or
    Why Simpletons Find Nuance within Reality to be Frightening

  • @gorillaguerillaDK
    @gorillaguerillaDK 3 роки тому +329

    I’m a Culture Wars Veteran
    ESPECIALLY the War on Christmas

    • @te1327
      @te1327 3 роки тому +63

      I honestly love the war on Christmas meme. Shame some people think it's a real thing

    • @te1327
      @te1327 3 роки тому +71

      @@nickmoser7785 It never was. And how exactly did leftist jews turn the holiday secular in the 1950s?

    • @ecoRfan
      @ecoRfan 3 роки тому +37

      @Katrina S December 25 was Saturnalia in the Pagan days. Christ was probably born in the spring.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +30

      I lost family at the Battle of the Baggage Claim.
      The Redcoats came in on three Airbuses, yet we prevailed.
      God bless America!

    • @l_ndonmusic
      @l_ndonmusic 3 роки тому +44

      @@nickmoser7785
      Of course... blame everything on the Jews... you’re not original lmao.

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq
    @MrOuija-rr8kq 3 роки тому +129

    As a veteran of the war on Christmas, Thank You!

    • @beefflow
      @beefflow 3 роки тому +5

      ✊✊✊✊✊

    • @Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo
      @Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo Рік тому +5

      Oh God that must have been cringe to deal with.
      Lemme guess someone got butthurt when a cashier said "Happy Holidays" or "Happy/Merry Non-Xmas holiday here" instead of "Merry Xmas?"

    • @rustomkanishka
      @rustomkanishka 2 місяці тому +3

      It should have always been Saturnalia! Heathen!

  • @richardpodnar5039
    @richardpodnar5039 3 роки тому +82

    The thoroughness of this presentation is mind-boggling. Not a dull moment at all.

  • @ZiggyZ3
    @ZiggyZ3 3 роки тому +105

    You peaked my interest when you talked about how some can see everything as political. That’s something they taught in my poli sci classes. I like framing things that are “political” as things that people need to discuss/ change and things being “a-political” as things that can’t change or should be considered neutral. It can feel very gaslighty when people disagree on what’s political or get upset about “making something political” because it’s a way of avoiding important issues.

    • @JohnRayner5
      @JohnRayner5 3 роки тому +44

      The problem with that philosophy is that it’s very easy to see certain things as a-political when they don’t personally affect you. If you get right down to it, everything is inherently political- everything that affects people is a matter of politics, because the people in power have a direct impact on how policies and laws impact YOU, personally. Sometimes they have a positive impact and sometimes a negative. It isn’t fair to say that because you don’t feel particularly strong about a certain subject doesn’t mean that others might have a more personal investment.

    • @InternetMameluq
      @InternetMameluq 3 роки тому +21

      '“a-political” as things that can’t change or should be considered neutral.'
      Nothing ever fits into that category.

    • @cashnelson2306
      @cashnelson2306 3 роки тому +3

      piqued*

    • @chev3569
      @chev3569 3 роки тому

      @@InternetMameluq Climate change?

    • @roberte.andrews4621
      @roberte.andrews4621 3 роки тому +6

      Politics arose from aspects of the human mind, for better or worse. Unfortunately, much of politics is emotional and irrational. Social scientists deal with facts learned about human behavior. Our ancient hunter/gatherer ancestors dealt with life and death situations frequently and our reptilian brain is hard-wired for fight or flight response patterns. this explains why we still have so many wars and domestic discord. Older societies have come to grips with this human failing and have evolved methods to avoid physical conflicts.

  • @reveranttangent1771
    @reveranttangent1771 3 роки тому +31

    My american foreignness is showing through as I find the idea of calling a Brit a Europhile as weird as calling an American a westaboo.

    • @brassen
      @brassen 3 роки тому +6

      Hey, thanks! New word of the day for me, 'westaboo' 😅 (actually I'm thinking about how to use it in Brazil, it's likely that our president is a major case of westaboo)

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 3 роки тому +1

      @@brassen you're welcome

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 3 роки тому +2

      @@brassen anyway, when I made the comment, I had forgotten the "thinking x is superior" part of the definition.

    • @brassen
      @brassen 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@reveranttangent1771 Yes, I understand. We've always had this kind of "cultural war" down here, people would usually use terms like "Disney-zombie", "Stockholm-syndrome", "mutt-syndrome" (poor mutts)... whereas we on the left are just called "communists" 🤣

    • @reveranttangent1771
      @reveranttangent1771 3 роки тому +1

      @@brassen hmm, not pleased to realize how widespread and common certain problems are.

  • @StNick119
    @StNick119 3 роки тому +35

    I need to mull the content of this video over in my head for a while to get all I can out of it, but I already feel like I've gained a new perspective on the "culture wars", and more importantly a new way of sharing my perspective. Your works are excellent Tom, thank you.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Рік тому +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @snakesnoteyes
    @snakesnoteyes 3 роки тому +113

    Round Earth and heliocentricism as not being political, must be nice in the UK

    • @IkeOkerekeNews
      @IkeOkerekeNews 3 роки тому +5

      What are you even saying?

    • @joehill4094
      @joehill4094 3 роки тому +6

      you do realize that Flat earthers are not a large group of people, and of that small group of people, not all of them live in the US, right?

    • @joehill4094
      @joehill4094 3 роки тому +2

      @@neothepenguin1257 did I say most live outside of the US? What are you trying to argue?

    • @neothepenguin1257
      @neothepenguin1257 3 роки тому +8

      @@joehill4094 what are YOU arguing. I’m correcting you

    • @triadia7059
      @triadia7059 3 роки тому +2

      @@joehill4094 why would any non-majority amount of flat earthers not in America influence how the topic exists in America? Your argument is much better focusing on the size of flat earthers period, or even better to focus on their ability to change the material world through state or nonstate means (or generally their lack thereof).
      The danger is generally the presuppositions flat earthers hold anyway, as those ultimately lead to a material force shifting for the rest of the population.

  • @WereInHell
    @WereInHell 3 роки тому +128

    Do you EVER miss?!?!

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +38

      I keep trying but people keep saying the stuff is good anyway...

    • @TheMinorityGAMER312
      @TheMinorityGAMER312 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/OKdNw8aDTsA/v-deo.html

    • @marcschaeffer1584
      @marcschaeffer1584 3 роки тому +1

      Every time. He is very interesting though...

    • @totallynotacommie335
      @totallynotacommie335 3 роки тому +1

      @@marcschaeffer1584 what do you mean "everytime"?

    • @marcschaeffer1584
      @marcschaeffer1584 3 роки тому

      @@totallynotacommie335 he is a philosopher and a thinker, and I have the greatest respect for that. He just happens to be wrong most of the time. I watch all his content, because it is interesting, but I agree with very little, and yes I understand what he says too.

  • @darrylbradshaw216
    @darrylbradshaw216 3 місяці тому +5

    "They got you fighting a culture war instead of the ongoing class war"

  • @victorvatari8333
    @victorvatari8333 Рік тому +5

    My favorite culture? Mentally checking out of shit like this

    • @Noneofyourbyisness
      @Noneofyourbyisness Рік тому +4

      Because you’re weak. It’s that simple.

    • @avacadomangobanana2588
      @avacadomangobanana2588 Рік тому +4

      Because you’re not affected or persecuted by these issues. So you’re privileged enough to not HAVE to deal with them. Others cannot simply “ignore it”

    • @victorvatari8333
      @victorvatari8333 Рік тому +1

      @avacadomangobanana2588 ??? Why assuming it like, I don't think it's great poltics gets things done both for and against us. And being mentally checked out is a band aid, not a fix

  • @yarlodek5842
    @yarlodek5842 2 роки тому +6

    The culture war is the most exhausting thing on this fucking planet. I beg of people, just stop taking things so goddamn seriously, get the fuck off of twitter.

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 2 роки тому +181

    Early 2000-2010s culture wars were still, at least in the US, still VERY much a thing (I say this as someone who was much more involved with them then)
    In this era, though, it was the left who was more on the offensive. You had people challenging the narrative provided by those in power around the war on terror and the prism act. You had leftists concerned, rightly so in hindsight, about the right's moves to fascism and authoritarianism. You had groups like the Dixie Chicks getting a pushback for saying they disapproved of the actions of the president, and the American Idiot album by Green Day born out of a lot of the frustrations born of the right's control of the culture. The culture war didn't go quiet, the terms on which it was being fought, and which side held more power had just been different than it was in other eras you're discussing.

    • @jasonbolding3481
      @jasonbolding3481 2 роки тому +18

      I think you are over looking things though about who was on the offensive. President canidate Bush ran both his campaigns on a federal amendment to outlaw same sex marriage for instance

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 2 роки тому +27

      @@jasonbolding3481 that's very fair. Defense of Marriage act absolutely emboldened a lot of the culture war hate on the right. I can even remember my parent's church at the time had sermons from the pulpit telling people to vote to ban same sex marriage when it came up for a vote in the state too (which shows that ministers have been emboldened for decades or longer to do political speech from the pulpit without any consequences to their tax exempt status)

    • @user-rn3rn6nl3h
      @user-rn3rn6nl3h Рік тому

      The "right" has not been in power since the 80s. Bush is a liberal that ran as a republican. All the Republicans of the 90-00 support the left currently.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 Рік тому +14

      @@user-rn3rn6nl3h if you think that Bush was a liberal, then you, my friend, are very very far right. If anything most of the left started moving more to the right after Clinton and his embrace of neo liberalism while groups like the Tea Party and now MAGA are pulling Republicans even further to the right. The reason they seem to be very similar is not becase the conservatives got more liberal, it's because liberals got more conservative.

    • @user-rn3rn6nl3h
      @user-rn3rn6nl3h Рік тому

      @@anthonydelfino6171 bush currently supports the democrats, he helped them campaign.

  • @jacobwhalley7026
    @jacobwhalley7026 3 роки тому +37

    These longer formats suit your style, a documentary sized space frees you up for a more comprehensive take on a subject, I love the theatre in this episode, the change in tone and attack really keep my attention, something I noticed in the "myth of a free press" video too. A labour of love, fair play mate really, enjoying your output!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Рік тому

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @freelease
    @freelease 3 роки тому +20

    I really like the pacing of this video.
    Breaking up the rather heavy chapters with (a little) lighter history to not overwhelm the listener/viewer.
    Great video. Clear audio, nice cuts smooth writing.
    Well done!

  • @MasterJuru
    @MasterJuru 3 роки тому +18

    14:12 you know you've made it in life when ur bold and dignified enough to eat Pringles out of a glass bowl

  • @HannibalHanslaughter
    @HannibalHanslaughter 3 роки тому +70

    The opening is killing me

  • @richardbritten492
    @richardbritten492 2 роки тому +4

    Ben Shapiro "...funded by liberal elites!"
    Me "So who is funding you then?"
    Ben Shapiro "...erm...WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!"

  • @underdude93
    @underdude93 3 роки тому +120

    This is awesome! I shared this with my dad who is on the “other” side. I enjoyed that you don’t attack but explain.

    • @luismoralesacevedo3100
      @luismoralesacevedo3100 3 роки тому +13

      Is your dad a gamer?

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 3 роки тому +49

      There are subtle attacks. He clearly is sympathetic to the "progressive" side because he frames everything as the "orthodoxy" side being dishonest in their motives while not doing so to the "progressive" side. He asserts that every action the progressive side does is for the betterment of society while the actions taken by the orthodox side are to maintain an iron grip on society.

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 3 роки тому +9

      @Anirban Chakrabarti Do you always assume the worst in people who disagree with you?

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 3 роки тому +15

      @Anirban Chakrabarti Then there can be no discussion. If you believe your political opponents are insincere then there is no point debating them, and if you can't change minds with words, there is no other recourse than violence.

    • @cowboycurtis4944
      @cowboycurtis4944 3 роки тому +11

      @Anirban Chakrabarti I could say the same thing about progressives but I know arguing with you will not accomplish anything. I don't want to commit violence against my political opponents because the instigation of political violence is an illegitimate means of solving disputes.
      Your worldview is that of a fanatic and ultimately such a worldview will cause more misery than it alleviates.

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic 3 роки тому +124

    Anytime people try break society into opposing camps, they are trying to sel you something and the person setting up the dichotomy probably owns both products.
    Edward vs Jacob, Team Fruity vs Team Coco, etc.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +11

      Haha, what's Team Fruity vs Team Coco? I think I'm too old to get this reference...

    • @dstinnettmusic
      @dstinnettmusic 3 роки тому +21

      @@Tom_Nicholas a dumb marketing gimmick that the cereal maker Post tried with Fuity pebbles and Coco pebbles at the height of the ”team x vs team y” marketing trend.
      Oh, another example is ”Left Twix vs Right Twix”, if you are at all familiar with American chocolate brands.
      Edit: Post is apparently still pushing the ”team” angle, I just am not their target demographic I guess.

    • @bgs2004
      @bgs2004 3 роки тому +8

      And you think class isn't part of that?

    • @dwc1964
      @dwc1964 3 роки тому +3

      I remember when it was Frankenberry vs Count Chocula (I'm old)

    • @Holobrine
      @Holobrine 3 роки тому +5

      Let’s not forget Team Cap vs Team Iron Man

  • @codemiesterbeats
    @codemiesterbeats 2 роки тому +3

    It is just sort of our nature... if not somewhat biological.
    One cave man family thinks they should take their butt flaps off and run through the snow because they hope it will invite warm weather.
    The other cave man family says "you crazy bastard you'll freeze to death and then we won't be able to hunt enough meat to live through the winter"
    (all in ooga boogas of course)
    Individuals are not that simple but when you look at humanity as a whole you have the "try something different" crowd and the "why not do what works" crowd.
    Neither is necessarily "wrong" although one might come to the conclusion that "doing what works" might have a slight advantage over changing things (especially too fast or drastic)
    Sort of like genetic mutations
    We might try something new and gain some very useful ability or attribute... or we might not see the forest for the trees and really set ourselves back.

  • @alexhurt7919
    @alexhurt7919 3 роки тому +34

    Nobody ever wants to talk about who won the great meme war of 2016.

    • @hes_alive
      @hes_alive 3 роки тому +3

      It was a short lived revolution because there were no intellectuals and no real leadership.

    • @alexhurt7919
      @alexhurt7919 3 роки тому +5

      @@hes_alive there were plenty of intellectuals, but you're right there was no leadership. Honestly I feel like that's going to be a perpetual problem as time goes on. Every modern movement lacks adequate leadership even the "legitimate" ones.

    • @Willowtree82
      @Willowtree82 3 роки тому +3

      @@hes_alive that always happens with real grassroots movements. It's hard for regular people to defeat the system when censorship exists. This is why censorship is the hill we die on. Always fight censorship, always hate elites

    • @alanreed3584
      @alanreed3584 3 роки тому

      pyrrhic victory

    • @fluffynator6222
      @fluffynator6222 3 роки тому

      The what now?

  • @olliestephenson1795
    @olliestephenson1795 3 роки тому +28

    "An interpretation of what is natural" - cuts to lobster. I see you 👀

  • @thesoupin8or673
    @thesoupin8or673 2 роки тому +3

    At 44:55, that author says that from the 2000s until Trump, the culture war had died down. I wasn't old enough or online enough to know anything about politics then, but weren't gay marriage, post-9/11 Islamophobia, and Obama just kinda existing pretty big deals at the time?

  • @phangkuanhoong7967
    @phangkuanhoong7967 3 роки тому +60

    the idea that history is not political, is ludicrous.

    • @revoltman-needsmoreclickbait
      @revoltman-needsmoreclickbait 3 роки тому +1

      by definition history is EVERYTHING that has happened in the past such as when you:
      walked the dog
      went to work
      ate lunch
      slept
      slightly tilted forward while sitting in a chair
      winked
      knocked on wood
      ect.

    • @phangkuanhoong7967
      @phangkuanhoong7967 3 роки тому +13

      @@revoltman-needsmoreclickbait nope. that's not what history means, at all.

    • @otter_25
      @otter_25 3 роки тому +6

      @@revoltman-needsmoreclickbait the ones writing/taking note or promoting it can manipulate the meaning of events or cover the fact that things even happened at all, and therefore make history support their own claims or dislodge the opponents'. example: literally any propaganda film

    • @flaviomolina7165
      @flaviomolina7165 3 роки тому +1

      @@revoltman-needsmoreclickbait we re talking about history in the academic sense of the word, not the layman usage of it
      your history is reflected by your perception, and people have different perceptions of events, leading to arguments over the reality

  • @contadesativada5199
    @contadesativada5199 3 роки тому +14

    You are so eloquent and smart and precious that I’d bake you a cake

  • @DesignerOfManyThings
    @DesignerOfManyThings 3 роки тому +21

    holy cow! This was my first video I saw and I'm blown away with how high the production quality is and how underrated this channel is. Great work, great job explaining everything, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I look forward to seeing more!

  • @Sarah-fe9jo
    @Sarah-fe9jo 3 роки тому +50

    This is such a clear and comprehensive video, thank you so much! As a high school student and a relatively new leftist, your videos really enrich my analysis of our society and my understanding of theory

    • @JoeMama-bj9jw
      @JoeMama-bj9jw Рік тому +2

      xanderhaul and conure, unlike vaush and hasan, are pretty good on what they post. while the other two feel ok as a 101 intro-ish course on leftism

  • @imapotato8649
    @imapotato8649 Рік тому +4

    Not me getting a prager u ad on this video 😭😭😭

  • @appleislander8536
    @appleislander8536 3 роки тому +27

    Where both sides simultaneously believe that their victory is inevitable, and that the other side is always at the gates...

  • @coreywilliams5357
    @coreywilliams5357 3 роки тому +43

    This was an excellent watch. Going to have to watch it again more closely, like I do with many of your videos. This morning, I thought that the culture wars were manufactured divisions of the working class. Now I'm not so sure.
    Thanks Tom

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +12

      Thanks, glad to have provoked some thinking!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 роки тому

      I thought this might be important information to share with you guys. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @leon46295
    @leon46295 Рік тому +6

    I saw the thumbnail and thought "guy put in the effort to wear a costume. Ill take a look"

  • @cbbcbb6803
    @cbbcbb6803 Рік тому +4

    The culture wars in America started when the "pilgrims", and others from Europe, immigrated to the new world and decided that Europeans had the right to cancel every "new world" culture. So, they immediately set about doing just that.

  • @rosellavaughn5394
    @rosellavaughn5394 3 роки тому +45

    your videos are my newest intellectual obsession. making origami while listening to educational content is my passion, so thanks for being an accompanying part of it, and i hope u continue to make such quality content.

  • @mediaproductionfilms3665
    @mediaproductionfilms3665 3 роки тому +20

    I was about to watch a TV series. that can wait

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +8

      That's very kind (and maybe a little optimistic about how good the video is, haha).

    • @amraaji9158
      @amraaji9158 3 роки тому +2

      It really is dude..

  • @yelenaantipova3964
    @yelenaantipova3964 3 роки тому +20

    16:56 "interpretation of what is natural" *shows lobster footage*
    I see what you did there

  • @MadsBoldingMusic
    @MadsBoldingMusic 3 роки тому +57

    Hillary Clinton enters the room...
    Pat Buchanan: "Radical feminism!!!"
    I don't think I need to explain why that's absurd.

    • @antiroman458
      @antiroman458 3 роки тому +3

      The true absurdity is that you probably do.

    • @MadsBoldingMusic
      @MadsBoldingMusic 3 роки тому

      @@antiroman458 It's funny 'cause it's true.

    • @spdfatomicstructure
      @spdfatomicstructure 3 роки тому

      Replace Buchanan with Trump

    • @ghostf6321
      @ghostf6321 2 роки тому

      I mean to a lot of people in the country, that is what they think.

  • @girrlbyker
    @girrlbyker 3 роки тому +21

    Great stuff, well laid out 😊. I would argue though that sitting in the park on a sunny day, whether in the shade or not *has* a political aspect. Parks are public spaces, often free in our societies. But the value of free public land is constantly contested, making such spaces contingent. In Turkey for example, Gezi Park was the focus of defiance against urban gentrification and ultimately authoritarian oppression. In Apartheid South Africa, parks were often off-limits to non-white people. Also to have time to lie in a park, is the result of union activity to ensure days off. It's still an indication of your degree of economic freedom to be able to choose how to structure one's time. The strength of the sun's rays has increased with gaps in the ozone layer, caused by relentless emissions, making sitting too long in open sunlight more dangerous than it may have been a few decades earlier. Being able to read to, to have access to free public education is a privilege not all in the world enjoy. Many political things going on even in that simple activity. 😉

  • @dewayneweaver5782
    @dewayneweaver5782 2 роки тому +2

    When Hillary Clinton started blaming her own failure to find national popularly on a cartoon frog

    • @dhayes907
      @dhayes907 Рік тому

      Yeah, the democratic party is so out of touch. Shoving the popular candidate to the side in favor of Hillary really stank of entitlement. If they don't regret that, they are not long for this world.

  • @Blaineworld
    @Blaineworld 2 роки тому +7

    How could one possibly think social norms are always good?

    • @spraynard9529
      @spraynard9529 2 роки тому +5

      Because I was raised to believe in the social norms. And if I believe in something that turns out to be wrong, that means I was wrong. And I can’t be wrong, because I’m smart. Also change is scary.
      Something along those lines, I’d imagine.

    • @ThePkmnMaster54
      @ThePkmnMaster54 2 роки тому +5

      I don't know anyone who thinks they irl. But I've met many people irl who believed all social norms should be destroyed. They're both weird concepts.

    • @spraynard9529
      @spraynard9529 2 роки тому +2

      @@ThePkmnMaster54 I think the point is more along the lines of people who rely on appeals to tradition to make an argument.
      I.e. “gay people shouldn’t be accepted because we previously didn’t accept them”. That’s a fallacious argument because it assumes that something is good if it is considered normal or traditional.
      I also find it hard to believe that you’ve encountered people in the world who believe in dismantling every single cultural norm.

  • @15inches77
    @15inches77 3 роки тому +19

    "or an interpretation of what is natural"
    shows lobster
    cough jordan peterson cough

  • @CiroqLee
    @CiroqLee 2 роки тому +2

    That’s an aw-fully hot co-ffee pot
    Should you sort by newest?
    *Probably not*

  • @evelienheerens2879
    @evelienheerens2879 Рік тому +3

    It's no coincidence that the early 2000s and 2010s saw a lul in this whole mess. A little thing called 9-11 happened and the vision of unity was embraced by the media.
    This is where the 'culture wars' get framed and kept alive in the minds of the masses. It's not that there was no counter movement in those days, I marched with those back in those days myself. I protested wars and was part of anti-societal subcultures. The biggest difference is that the media wasn't interested in selling our stories to the world for views back in those days.
    The biggest upheavels in these so-called culture wars happened whenever the media made it a point to talk about them.
    The rise of the internet has at least partially democratized this. So the struggle between left and right can stay in at least some segments of the societal platform, even if the news isn't paying attention.
    Dividing us so we can't unite and eat the rich has always been the main reason the conservatives get lied to and told that we're the problem, we're nothing but degenerates coming to bring about the downfall of propriety and decency.
    All the while, the rich are the ones actually sucking the life out of our existence.
    The culture war, in my mind, is the class war, rebranded by the media to keep the proletariat divided. And it works. All they have to do is convince the people who still kind of get to enjoy life under the system, that they should hate us for threatening their happiness, and convince a small percentage of the downtrodden, that it's all actually the fault of minorities. Works great. Revolution cancelled.

  • @Teag_Brohman15
    @Teag_Brohman15 3 роки тому +63

    The Endless Culture Wars:
    regardless of what side you're on
    you'll definitely get offended

    • @LukeTansiongco
      @LukeTansiongco 3 роки тому +5

      This. Fucking based

    • @TheGringuish12
      @TheGringuish12 3 роки тому +2

      Plot twist: coming to this point is offensive to all of us in the first place 😅

    • @omnitroph1501
      @omnitroph1501 3 роки тому

      Not necessarily.

    • @walterclements3164
      @walterclements3164 2 роки тому

      Can you tell me what right wing people apparently find offensive? Because I don't think you're using that word properly.

    • @Teag_Brohman15
      @Teag_Brohman15 2 роки тому +8

      @@walterclements3164 Gonzo wearing a dress, gender neutral gingerbread men, anything feminists say, same sex cartoon duck couples, gay characters in children's movies, Joe Biden being president.
      I'd go on but the list would be a mile and a half long.

  • @mooseboose656
    @mooseboose656 Рік тому +2

    I knew just from the thumbnail the comment section was gonna be war

  • @marcantoinelab12321
    @marcantoinelab12321 2 роки тому +5

    "The left can't meme!"
    The right can't read

    • @alexrexaros9837
      @alexrexaros9837 2 роки тому

      And apparently you can only use the memes they create.
      Holy shit stop this tribalist bullshit for real.

  • @vitorgross9254
    @vitorgross9254 3 роки тому +55

    I'm building a collective of film industry workers here in Brazil aimed at battling the neoliberal "common sense" atmosphere we live in today. This video just spoke to so many things I had in mind... thank you again for the excellent work!

    • @azuregriffin1116
      @azuregriffin1116 3 роки тому +2

      boa sorte!

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 роки тому

      I thought this might be important information to share with you. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics. I thought that you and your fellow film industry workers are successful in resisting neoliberal atmosphere that you are in right now. Blessings to you.

  • @StupStups
    @StupStups 2 роки тому +2

    This was good but the last section was a bit daft for me. The idea that the working class should, or could, unite and takeover reminds me how young and relatively naïve you are.

  • @asmaaaroosi7087
    @asmaaaroosi7087 3 роки тому +63

    The topic of culture wars is portrayed differently in my country than how it is in western countries. As for me (a person who lives in a non western country) it’s more related to colonialism and cultural erasure and appropriation (which is still related to class in so many ways)

    • @ExkupidsMom
      @ExkupidsMom 3 роки тому +19

      From the US here, progressive leftist: Our right wing politicians do not in any way acknowledge the harm of colonization, and even most of the "left" ignore it. However, when you get into the truly progressive fringes, there is ever-increasing awareness and attempts to acknowledge, make amends, and reparations. Real change will be a long time away, I'm afraid.

    • @DeepfriedNutz
      @DeepfriedNutz 3 роки тому +19

      @@ExkupidsMom Sounds like you're describing the radical left of the modern western world. Extremism and radical activism turn people into modern day witch hunters. The other extreme is the far-right, they're quite good at feeding eachother hatred.

    • @ExkupidsMom
      @ExkupidsMom 3 роки тому +10

      @@DeepfriedNutz Absolutely. That's why you see caravans of antifa liberals running Trump campaign vehicles off the road, carrying fascistic signs like the swastika, and shooting into crowds of people who disagree with them. Disgusting.

    • @suckieduckie
      @suckieduckie 3 роки тому +12

      @@ExkupidsMom Once people talk about reperations that's mostly when the argument goes off the cliff. There is no way to regulate it and to decide how for back we go. I'm Dutch for example so from a colonial perspective we should pay reparations to Suriname and Indonesia. But no one is saying we should get reparations for the Germans bombing the shit out of our country, no one is saying we should go back to the Dutch rebellion of 1568-1648 and demand money from Spain. 1% of all males trace their DNA back to Genghis Khan. That's a shitload of child support that Mongolia has to pay back.
      I think the way forward for the west is not to be self loathing or to throw money at corrupt governments in developing countries, but instead invest in the techonology and infrastructure needed to raise them up. Easier said than done obviously.

    • @ExkupidsMom
      @ExkupidsMom 3 роки тому

      @@suckieduckie On a global level it is complicated, for sure, but even then, I wouldn't say the problem is insoluble, just complicated. If I confine the scope of reparations specifically to my country. From there, I can draw a number of reasonable boundaries, it's just a matter of choosing one. Is there one that will make everyone happy? Not a chance. We can't even, as a country, wholeheartedly say that fascism is bad, apparently... but I digress. So let's pretend I've decided that we will pay reparations only to descendents of enslaved people, stolen by us. Many people cannot document their ancestry, but we can institute DNA testing and do the best job we possibly can of collecting DNA from known slave burial grounds, etc, and use both documents and DNA as means of identifying those to whom we owe reparations. Or we could give reparations to every black American, because racism continues to limit their health, wealth, opportunities, and life-span to this day. Or... The world will never be fair unless we dump everyasset we have into a huge basket and reapportion everything. But that shouldn't stop us from doing the best we can at every turn.

  • @ecoRfan
    @ecoRfan 3 роки тому +12

    Culture Wars: when policy isn’t sexy enough

  • @horrorhabit8421
    @horrorhabit8421 2 роки тому +4

    Yeah, I was there during the 4 Chan-Scientology war back in '08. It was a bloodbath. I barely got out alive.

    • @guyferrari8124
      @guyferrari8124 2 роки тому +3

      Man I miss the days when 4chan still did big stuff like that

  • @jeiaz
    @jeiaz 3 роки тому +43

    This was so much worth my time that I'm gonna spend another hour just looking at a blank wall.

    • @hindigente
      @hindigente 3 роки тому +5

      This is such a great hyperbole, I'll constantly use it.

    • @jeiaz
      @jeiaz 3 роки тому

      @Ivan Seems like you understood my message backwards

    • @bacul165
      @bacul165 3 роки тому

      Agreed - think I might need this hour to work through some things I learned...

  • @Marco_Onyxheart
    @Marco_Onyxheart 3 роки тому +9

    In a way, I do think everything is political. Or rather, everything has been made political. Often by right-wingers. The idea that climate change is real or that vaccins do not contain RFID chips (which is physically impossible) is inherently political. Even gravity is politicised, as evidenced by flat earth videos which argue that gravity is caused by the earth-disc's acceleration through space.

    • @charliegreen1737
      @charliegreen1737 3 роки тому +2

      I wouldn't call discussions about the idea of a flat Earth 'politicised' so much as just scientists trying their best to dismiss the claims of a few idiots who have gathered an unreasonable amount of attention.

  • @dande5009
    @dande5009 3 роки тому +11

    Had this in my watch later for a couple of weeks. Was waiting for the right time to watch. A great breakdown of something that is often heard but not always understood.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu 2 роки тому

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @aj-zi6vi
    @aj-zi6vi 3 роки тому +12

    I love the production value on your videos!

  • @majorfallacy5926
    @majorfallacy5926 3 роки тому +7

    Is it just me or does his intonation sound a bit pretentious? Like the content is good but it feels like a theatre kid reciting an ancient greek debate rather than making their own argument

    • @occasionalfan-content4771
      @occasionalfan-content4771 3 роки тому +5

      I think it may just be you

    • @dustinthewind357
      @dustinthewind357 3 роки тому

      @@occasionalfan-content4771 no, I agree.

    • @Viperzka
      @Viperzka 3 роки тому +1

      He has an accent, I believe it's British. Americans have been conditioned to hear British accents as self-important and condescending. You'll find a similar effect if you listen to someone talk on an intelligent topic with a strong southern accent. There of course we are conditioned to find the southern (especially Appalachian) accent to be unintelligent.

    • @majorfallacy5926
      @majorfallacy5926 3 роки тому +1

      @@Viperzka I'm not American though, I learned British English (although I speak German English :p)

  • @insane_troll
    @insane_troll 2 роки тому +2

    7:50 - "a more technocratic liberal idealist mode of politics in which people disinterestedly review the relevant facts and analysis and come to a decision over what the most favourable solution to any problem is through an allegedly pure logical lens."
    Wait a minute, I like the sound of that one. Why can't we do that?

  • @jasonwhite2028
    @jasonwhite2028 Рік тому +53

    This is what i wish mainstream media was more like, you have a way of not foregoing your ideals and thoughts but still representing the topic in such an unbiased and fair way, i especially enjoy how you explore the historical aspects of the subjects you cover. The fact that you can remain very factually based in such a nuanced and almost emotionally led dilemma is quite remarkable, you also touch on some rather "rabbit hole" (for lack of a better word) points very tastefully without falling into the endless possibilities of speculation; for example pointing out most people are mostly moderate in the direction they politically lean and have much more convergence in issues than the mainstream media conveys. I personally cant avoid the unlimited questions and speculations of such profound notions which is why i like your on point and concise videos so much, you are obviously very smart and very educated and i would like to thank you for using your knowledge, ability to research and put together such fair and entertaining content.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Рік тому +2

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @odinsboss117
    @odinsboss117 3 роки тому +12

    This was excellent! You asked really good questions, and clearly put a substantial amount of work into this and it really shows. Thanks for making it, it was fascinating to see how consistent we humans can be with how we divide ourselves. I recall learning somewhere you could have found similar conservative and reform factions dividing the senate floors of the Roman republic more than 2000 years ago.

    • @Servitor-lx1bu
      @Servitor-lx1bu Рік тому +1

      I thought this might be important information to share. 35% of all ocean microplastics come from clothing, mostly polyester, acrylic, and nylon. This is largely due to clothes made of these materials being washed, which causes the clothes to quickly erode, sending microplastics into the water system and eventually the sea. Ocean Hero is a great search engine that we can use to help clean up larger plastics before they disintegrate into microplastics.

  • @zandnerd
    @zandnerd 2 роки тому +2

    What you say about progressivism and orthodoxy is true but I think you may have ignored whats happened in areas where progressivism has become the new orthodox. Particularly UC Berkeley the epicentre of it all

  • @musicalfringe
    @musicalfringe 2 роки тому +4

    Tom, I think your characterisation of the two sides is a little biased here. On the progressive side, you describe very well the positive vision of the classic liberal in a way I agree with (because that's basically what I am).
    Meanwhile, on the reactionary side, you imply a naturalistic fallacy (i.e. "evolution set it up this way so it's automatically the Right Thing™") where the sophisticated position is nothing more than a recognition that our traditions came from somewhere and we shouldn't destroy them without proper understanding (see Chesterton's Fence).
    It's the utopian urge to unthinkingly tear down stuff we don't understand, based on an overreliance on uncritical compassion-based emotional reasoning, that gives sophisticated reactionaries pause. I'm temperamentally liberal and always have been, and I still despise simplistic social conservatism, but I've now matured past that to see the frightening irrationality of rabid emotion-based progressivism. Despite that, I dare say that many reactionaries, like me, would be open to a RATIONAL discussion of how to improve things. It's just that such discussion is increasingly impossible to find in a sea of sensationalism.

    • @julius43461
      @julius43461 2 роки тому +4

      Stop calling yourself reactionary first. Those who he calls progressive are exactly the opposite of that. Just wanting any change is not really progress, just like me blowing up my broken car isn't making any progress towards fixing it. As an atheist progressive I refuse to call them that, as their actions aren't doing anything to improve the society. They are reviving old grudges, making everything more racial and divided, censoring reasonable speech and taking a piss on people who died centuries ago. Those things describe the true regressives.

    • @musicalfringe
      @musicalfringe 2 роки тому

      @@julius43461 Well said!

    • @HeavyMetalorRockfan9
      @HeavyMetalorRockfan9 2 роки тому +3

      Agreed, all of his videos are like this though. They all have characterizations of 'progressives' in progressives own terms, as being open-minded, critical thinking people who just want to challenge the status quo to make things better. And right wingers are people who at best just dont understand or at worst are actively seeking to oppress others. At the same time they almost always present the right wing as far more unified and powerful than it is, despite him saying in the beginning of the video that unity is farcical.
      Indeed all of his videos scream academic hyperreality to me, and they're caked in "I'm making a neutral academic argument, but I'm also a left winger, and I declared there's no such thing as a neutral argument so this is the best you're going to get anyway" coupled with smugness and condescension. It makes them painful to listen to even if you agree with the ideas because it insults the intelligence of the audience (look at all the people in the comments saying this is better and more clear than a uni degree)
      I see this same shit every day reading academic papers in political science.

    • @musicalfringe
      @musicalfringe 2 роки тому +1

      @@HeavyMetalorRockfan9 Well said. Good to know there are others like me out there.

    • @DeezN1892
      @DeezN1892 2 роки тому +3

      @@HeavyMetalorRockfan9 there isn’t anything ‘condescending’ about this video. At all. You just feel attacked

  • @BRAUSA
    @BRAUSA 3 роки тому +30

    I am definitely not on the right and am extremely put off by wokeness, identity politics and CRT

    • @charliesummers5623
      @charliesummers5623 3 роки тому +7

      just know that the extremely stupid and annoying faucets of it are straw men. each of those has their merits but it's easy to see why one would be put off by them when all you see is the repetition of the extremely ridiculous examples people like to bring up.

    • @tbhon
      @tbhon 3 роки тому +12

      Critical race theory is just a form of critical analysis. It's a tool to view works of media or the world with, like postmodernism or feminist critical theory. The corporate training programs and that pamphlet from the Smithsonian are their own beasts and an entire school of thought shouldn't be banned because cynical corporate heads made some cringe woke training.

    • @epsteingaming
      @epsteingaming 3 роки тому +12

      @@tbhon nobody's banning the school of thought, they just stopped it from being taught in government so our tax money doesn't have to pay for it

    • @tbhon
      @tbhon 3 роки тому +2

      @@epsteingaming Trump advocated for it vaguely to stop being taught because it's unamerican, he was heavily implying it should not be taught in schools

    • @epsteingaming
      @epsteingaming 3 роки тому +10

      ​@@tbhon public schools are also paid for by tax money so I don't see the issue in stopping it from being taught there. And if you look at the specifics of what he banned, it certainly was not any training pertaining to racial sensitivity, just teaching that any person inherently inferior or racist or sexist because of their race or sex, or that America is an irredeemably racist or sexist country www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-combating-race-sex-stereotyping/

  • @FaceD0wnDagon
    @FaceD0wnDagon 2 роки тому +4

    I think I've figured out the part about this video I don't like: The idea that the "status quo" is the totem pole around which the culture war is fought. I don't think that's the case, it's only close enough to the actual case to be easily mistaken for it.
    I think the actual culture war is between objectivism and relativism. The status quo is only supported or fought against insofar as it adheres to one of those positions.

    • @StupStups
      @StupStups 2 роки тому

      Interesting point. In some contexts I consider 'the right' to be those preferring incremental political change, while 'the left' prefer wholesale (sometimes revolutionary) change. As an approximate characterisation, that looks a bit like fighting around the status quo.
      It doesn't look to me like objectivism vs relativism, could you expand on that?
      Both sides appear to have strong ideological underpinnings in some way or other.

    • @FaceD0wnDagon
      @FaceD0wnDagon 2 роки тому

      @@StupStups I don't know if I could explain it if it's not already something you have observed. Look at how the left and right treat history, for example. Is it a detached description of things that happened, or is it a narrative means to an end? What about morality? Which side is saying that it's unfair to impose our moral systems on others? Etc...

  • @knightrider585
    @knightrider585 3 роки тому +9

    Funny you use the example of sitting in a park as an example of something inherently "non-political" when exactly such an action has been made illegal at various times and places over the last year.

  • @lyadmilo
    @lyadmilo 3 роки тому +22

    Jordan Peterson callout in the lobster cut away :)

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +4

      Haha, I wasn't sure if anyone would notice this...

    • @coreywilliams5357
      @coreywilliams5357 3 роки тому +1

      I thought it was hilarious

    • @HeedlessDullahan
      @HeedlessDullahan 3 роки тому

      Can someone please explain this joke to me, for a friend.

    • @fugitiveunknown7806
      @fugitiveunknown7806 3 роки тому +6

      @@HeedlessDullahan Jordan Peterson made a point that was akin to heirarchies are good because lobsters.
      It sounds stupid out of context, but it was actually brilliant because herp derp tumpity tum tum.

    • @fugitiveunknown7806
      @fugitiveunknown7806 3 роки тому +2

      @@HeedlessDullahan ua-cam.com/video/5ZOkxuNbsXU/v-deo.html

  • @davynhainstock7503
    @davynhainstock7503 3 роки тому +2

    Wait a minute ur saying that the media is fanning the flames ...no wat

  • @MrMuel1205
    @MrMuel1205 3 роки тому +6

    Wow! First video of yours I've seen. Fantastic. Loved the presentation, the research and structure of the video. Now time to delve into your other videos.

  • @brookebradford8189
    @brookebradford8189 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks!

  • @thelordgamer8707
    @thelordgamer8707 2 роки тому +5

    while as a conservative. I disagreed with most of your points. I am still going to give it a like, because no matter the creators political beliefs I can still see when lots of effort and work was put into a there thesis! (it was also more thought provoking then most progressive socialist slog out there on the internet)👍

  • @Night_Bacon
    @Night_Bacon 3 роки тому +5

    And straight after your vid, an advert from the Farage advertising his latest grift, Freedom & Fortune. Seamless......

  • @dieucondorimperial2509
    @dieucondorimperial2509 2 роки тому +3

    Faith, Flag and Family ? In France, we had a very similar motto, Travail Famille Patrie ( Work Family Nation )… Used by our collaborative government established in Vichy under the Nazis rule between 1940 and 1944.

  • @Make_Boxing_Great_Again
    @Make_Boxing_Great_Again 2 роки тому +2

    The culture wars is more about perceived discrimination, identity groups, and personal freedoms such as freedom of speech.

  • @kateoneill6176
    @kateoneill6176 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks Tom, another engaging video that has left me a bit despondant about the future of the human race.

  • @marksilla8276
    @marksilla8276 3 роки тому +6

    I can't imagine it took 2020, for me to find your channel. At least this year wasn't a complete waste.

  • @boredom5132
    @boredom5132 Рік тому +2

    Despite being slightly right leaning I find channels like yours refreshing. I may not agree with every bit of the overview you provide, I found this very interesting.

  • @ryancier
    @ryancier 3 роки тому +6

    Politics is just what countries do in-between War.

    • @minimalbstolerance8113
      @minimalbstolerance8113 3 роки тому +1

      "War is the continuation of politics by violent means, and politics is the continuation of war by non-violent means." -Mao Zedong

  • @Commanber
    @Commanber 3 роки тому +5

    I've just started Society of the Spectacle because of your videos on it and now I see The Spectacle everywhere.

  • @-erikros-
    @-erikros- 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! Your park example is political in the sense that a public park is a public space and not everyone might feel we need those. Perhaps it could be a private space where you could sit and read, but only after paying a small entrance fee, for the upkeep of the park. Perhaps a bit far fetched, but clearly, both space and resources are allocated to the existence and upkeep of the park. So you assuming you are free to enjoy that park, is a consequence of someone making the conscious effort to create those parks. A lot of London parks used to be hunting grounds for the royal family, who to this day own the land.

  • @noahcasey369
    @noahcasey369 3 роки тому +9

    44:44 Gamergate was in 2014... Trump didnt single handedly bring the culture war back