The Fake Futurism of Elon Musk

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  • Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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    A video about Elon Musk and the future.
    Timestamps:
    0:00 SpaceX Mars
    01:49 Introduction
    05:35 Tesla, Ford and A Tale of Two Cars
    08:53 Futurism
    13:00 The Slow Cancellation of the Future
    17:53 Back to the Future
    21:31 Muskian Futurism for Whom?
    There's perhaps already a distinct "Elon Musk Video Essay" genre here on UA-cam. Hopefully, though, this takes a different approach to those which are already out there.
    Rather than focussing on I take a look at why Elon Musk has become such a revered figure in recent years and why so many people have embraced Elon Musk's Loop, Tesla, Hyperloop, Spacex, Mars Mission, Neuralink and other projects.
    Drawing partly on the work of Mark Fisher and Franco "Bifo" Birardi, I consider how human perceptions of the future (at least in the advanced capitalist nations) have changed over time. In particular, I'm interested in how Elon Musk's rise might be read as a response to what Birardi and Fisher refer to as the "Slow Cancellation of the Future" during the ascendency of neoliberalism (or neoliberal capitalism) in the 1970s, 80s, 90s and 2000s.
    I also argue that Elon Musk might have more than a little in common with figures in the political sphere such as Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (AOC) and "The Squad", Jeremy Corbyn etc. who have also recently sought to break from the status quo and invited us to imagine bold new futures.
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  • @Tom_Nicholas
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      @nicanornunez9787 3 роки тому +24

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    • @benbrown8682
      @benbrown8682 3 роки тому +8

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      @TornadoGeorge 3 роки тому +10

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    • @hugmonger
      @hugmonger 3 роки тому +27

      @Wicked Utopia Ummm dude is critiquing the current trend of things believe it or not that helps the future. Engaging with critique helps create more solid ideas regardless the character of the critique

    • @bchandle
      @bchandle 3 роки тому +15

      Wait you are promoting your own patreon page to make more money and using Elon to do it. What have you done other than talk about what others have done? People who cant do talk about what others have done and criticize them.
      If you are really genuine go out there and do something, instead of taking the easy route of just talking about others who actually did something and use them for your gain.
      If the planet only had more of Elon's vs people like you I wonder where the world would be.

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 2 роки тому +5397

    It’s ironic how Elon Musk is the face of Tesla because he has a lot more in common with Thomas Edison than anyone else.

    • @seri-ously8591
      @seri-ously8591 2 роки тому +532

      Just as ironic some people hailed Steve Jobs as an innovator, basically Nerd Jesus, when he was just a masterminded marketeer that was lucky enough to throw a pitch the media was willing to eat up entirely.

    • @Wtfiswhattheysay
      @Wtfiswhattheysay 2 роки тому +34

      The idea for the iPod was around since it’s first patent in 1983. Society has been programmed to worship a certain person. You can thank Jesus for this concept and more recently hulk hogan. Fuckin stupid

    • @shanabanana2675
      @shanabanana2675 2 роки тому +159

      Edison, the Ultimate Rebranding Champion lmao yesss!

    • @keithyoung7
      @keithyoung7 2 роки тому +34

      Musk was once asked - on a talk show - which of the two he most admired, and it was Edison. Unfortunately the the host did not follow up. One would assume that Musks a considers himself a promoter, not an inventor. What a wanker.

    • @rahelwijeyekoon9403
      @rahelwijeyekoon9403 2 роки тому +214

      @@keithyoung7 Honestly, it'd be more respectable if he genuinely presented himself as a promoter rather than playing into the visionary/innovator persona as that'd be more true to his actions.

  • @mathewomolo
    @mathewomolo 2 роки тому +2224

    people talk about going to Mars to escape climate calamity as if there's clean air and beautiful gardens waiting on Mars.

    • @kenji214245
      @kenji214245 2 роки тому +285

      Run away from the bordeom of bunker living on earth. And enjoy the slightly roomier undeground bunkers on Mars where the low gravity will make you forget your own obesity of boredom eating everyday. While the bliss of death slowly creeps uppon you from high radiation and varying solar weather impacts varying up the spikes on the Radiation sensor in the roof.

    • @dukenukem5768
      @dukenukem5768 2 роки тому +1

      It is like the fraudulent Viking equivalent of Musk 1000 years ago getting people to move to Greenland by saying you could grow vinyards there. Or Jim Jones, another control freak, getting people to move to Jonestown because he told them it would be Paradise. Jones town will have looked like Paradise compared with sharing a bunker with Musk on Mars.

    • @fubar12345
      @fubar12345 2 роки тому +28

      Nobody has ever talked about Mars that way. Common strawman fallacy.

    • @mathewomolo
      @mathewomolo 2 роки тому +201

      @@fubar12345 i'm being sarcastic. And if you've never heard anyone talk about escaping Earth's impending climate catastrophe, then you're not well versed on SpaceX Mars hype. Look into Musk's speeches on the 'dire' need to be multi-planetary and understand the impression it gives off.

    • @jaegrant6441
      @jaegrant6441 2 роки тому +85

      "Get the first restaurant perfect before you open your second!!" - Gordon Ramsay
      "Fucking donut!!" - Also Gordon Ramsay

  • @gabevalladares7461
    @gabevalladares7461 2 роки тому +4951

    Elon Musk is a testament to what one man can achieve when his parents own an emerald mine

    • @jaegrant6441
      @jaegrant6441 2 роки тому +385

      100% ! People praise all these entrepreneurs like they're a rags to riches story, when they actually had lots of family money and connections to help their journey.

    • @mrandersen6872
      @mrandersen6872 2 роки тому +84

      @@jaegrant6441 tell me you know nothing about elon musk without telling me you know nothing about elon musk.

    • @loomyair
      @loomyair 2 роки тому +392

      @@mrandersen6872 fool

    • @as7river
      @as7river 2 роки тому +196

      @@mrandersen6872 my understanding of what I don't know about Elon Musk is far greater than your understanding of what you know about Elon Musk. This is how I would tell you I know nothing about Elon Musk without telling you I know nothing about Elon Musk.

    • @La0bouchere
      @La0bouchere 2 роки тому +23

      @@loomyair at least fact check before you make claims.
      Erol Musk owned shares in an emerald mine that never even made money.

  • @ExBlaz3
    @ExBlaz3 2 роки тому +1082

    *"By the rich. For the rich."*
    My take on most of Elon's visions.

    • @nicholaskeenan898
      @nicholaskeenan898 Рік тому +4

      the motor vehicle the plane the internet tv's etc etc all started as for the rich!

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 Рік тому +5

      I blame Ayn Rand.

    • @listrahtes
      @listrahtes Рік тому +12

      ​@@nicholaskeenan898but look at Musk's own ideas. They are not only inefficient but basically eliminate transport for "normal" people. Loop and Hyperloop perfect examples. Musk deliberate designs with the cost of neglecting transport to middle and lower class. That's a huge difference. His ideas are also just often quite stupid and so inefficient it can never used for masses

    • @okarowarrior
      @okarowarrior Рік тому +4

      @@nicholaskeenan898 Internet's infrastructure started as a military project and the modern use of it started as a way for universite's communities to share knowledge. Way of pulling a comment out of your as

    • @nicholaskeenan898
      @nicholaskeenan898 Рік тому +1

      @@okarowarrior so your saying someone that attended the most prestigious university, in the richest County in the world isn't rich?

  • @UbeFlavoured
    @UbeFlavoured 3 роки тому +20477

    Elon Musk is the "I'm not like other girls" of capitalists.

    • @timojissink4715
      @timojissink4715 3 роки тому +197

      A capitalist would not use his money like that, nor would he accept a $0 paycheck for their work

    • @bryntendo
      @bryntendo 3 роки тому +1326

      He's like that kid in highschool who makes up sUpEr CoOl rumours about himself and how totally cool and awesome he is, but for some reason people keep believing him

    • @skimmis
      @skimmis 3 роки тому +276

      @@bryntendo because he have shown that he can delivier. This matters.

    • @rork172
      @rork172 3 роки тому +166

      The guy is not a business man, neither a ‘capitalist’, he’s a passionate engineer, physicist and innovator.

    • @sobersplash6172
      @sobersplash6172 3 роки тому +1145

      Rourke McCarron he’s literally a CEO, do you think he just sits there personally making the shit his company does

  • @jefferyjones8399
    @jefferyjones8399 2 роки тому +4191

    I believe in a future where people don’t idolize billionaires who haven’t invented anything like Musk.

    • @DoomsdayR3sistance
      @DoomsdayR3sistance 2 роки тому +235

      I immediately treat anything from a Billionaire with extreme scepticism, the only Billionaire I might give a pass too is Gabe Newell, dropping to mere scepticism instead, which is the normal stance one should take with any claim.

    • @Silent_Shadow
      @Silent_Shadow 2 роки тому +46

      @@DoomsdayR3sistance Completely agree with you.

    • @airshipflea5219
      @airshipflea5219 2 роки тому +56

      I don't think inventing or not inventing has anything to do with it. Not all billionaires have made their money by inventing. Although their practices should receive extreme scepticism, unfortunately the common man is more concerned about their outrageously lavish lifestyle.

    • @skaruts
      @skaruts 2 роки тому +33

      There will always be people idolizing cons. I mean, there's a reason what they do is called a confident-trick: they get people's confidence through appealing speech; they get people to like them, look up to them, trust them, etc, and then they get people's wealth while giving no wealth in return.

    • @PascalSWE
      @PascalSWE 2 роки тому +97

      @@airshipflea5219 No one becomes a billionaire by invention alone. Even if you invented many useful things youre unlikely to become that rich. Its better to exploit those who invent if you want to become a billionaire

  • @manualdidact
    @manualdidact 2 роки тому +1118

    If we're comparing Musk and Ford, it's worth pointing out that Ford started his company. Musk started at Tesla as an activist investor, and forced out the founder.

    • @das250250
      @das250250 Рік тому +119

      Don't forget , ford actually made more cars than anyone else,faster and better as opposed to 1% of the market.

    • @das250250
      @das250250 Рік тому +22

      I'd also bet those early Ford's probably did more or equivalent miles on a tank ..and were more affordable

    • @arfeloreed
      @arfeloreed Рік тому +32

      Those Musk Fanboys refused to believed this Lol

    • @arkoisagoodboy
      @arkoisagoodboy Рік тому

      And Ford was an open supporter of Adolf Hitler who muscled competition out of the industry. Weird how if Musk were to use paid thugs to burn down competitors' businesses, you'd be up in arms about it. But your disdain for Musk is so blind that you'd go to bat for a literal Nazi supporter who did all the things you hate as an anti-capitalist

    • @jimbarino2
      @jimbarino2 Рік тому +5

      He did start Spacex, however. Credit where due.

  • @spiritualanarchist8162
    @spiritualanarchist8162 2 роки тому +832

    How the mighty have fallen. While highspeed trains go more then 250 km an hour throughout Europe & Asia , and one can go from France to England in a tunnel under the sea, Musk fans are celebrating a man who build a taxi tunnel under Las Vegas.

    • @valley_robot
      @valley_robot Рік тому +40

      What you just said , my thoughts exactly

    • @Lorre982
      @Lorre982 Рік тому +92

      "he" drilled less than 2km single one way tunnel under the desert here in Italy we are drilling the Solid Alps rock whit our Austrian friends 3 tunnels 57km each

    • @jaxonsevero1045
      @jaxonsevero1045 Рік тому +42

      American engineering never fails to impress😭

    • @ronnieradon
      @ronnieradon Рік тому +9

      IK right he could at least build something like the Lincoln Tunnel under a river but ha ha no

    • @emiliospowerballer1441
      @emiliospowerballer1441 Рік тому +29

      That goes 40 mph, without traffic

  • @djsmithe
    @djsmithe 2 роки тому +2959

    The genius of Elon Musk is he gets people to believe this BS.

    • @brainbomb.
      @brainbomb. 2 роки тому +111

      Actually that makes him the world's biggest conman.

    • @thedolphin5428
      @thedolphin5428 2 роки тому +3

      Nope. It's NOT his genius. It's merely the stupidity of his listeners. Just like all demagogues, despots, snake oil salesmen who prey on idiots, they all know there's one born every minute. No magic or mtstery or genius involved

    • @scrggddsdfd82
      @scrggddsdfd82 2 роки тому

      The foolishness of you is you get people to believe in your BS without valid argument

    • @thedolphin5428
      @thedolphin5428 2 роки тому

      @@peterbishop6163
      That's called idealist and show-off altruism. Just like well known billionaires who donate to charity (Gates), and Musk now does. Thousands of rich people are philanthropists, but you never hear about them. Why? Because their gifting is more important than their notoriety for gifting. But the real underlying motive in Musk is massive ego, a need for people to love him, notice him, praise him, and think his cockamaime ideas are "genius". So Musk gives away a few million p.a. in patent rights. Only proves he thinks his stupid ideas should be given away for free and have some futuristic benefit to mankind. He has saviour complex, pure and simple.

    • @NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000
      @NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000 2 роки тому +63

      @@googlelord1678 Which is also called con man. That's like saying Bernie Madoff was a good business man. Because his con knew how to play the market and get people to give him money.

  • @soma7891
    @soma7891 2 роки тому +2398

    "I'm a bigger fan of Edison than Telsa, because Edison brought his inventions to the market." - Elon Musk
    This sums up everything- his thinking, his approach to life; it's only about making money.

    • @jreamscape
      @jreamscape 2 роки тому +381

      @@z.z.onichi5365 Edison stole patents and called inventions his own

    • @nensikalahan
      @nensikalahan 2 роки тому +33

      @@z.z.onichi5365 Edison tried to sabotage tesla's work to be able to have a monopoly on the market. That's not the "making the technology available to the people" , that is unscrupulous capitalistic kind of behavior.

    • @richitacos
      @richitacos 2 роки тому +35

      So you prefer an anti-social genius who will keep all his cool inventions to himself instead of a visionary businessman who will find a way to bring these cool and useful things to stores for everyone to buy?

    • @vamen4706
      @vamen4706 2 роки тому +11

      @@richitacos I prefer your mom.

    • @govindraghavan9493
      @govindraghavan9493 2 роки тому +7

      @@vamen4706 so do I

  • @dr.zoidberg8666
    @dr.zoidberg8666 2 роки тому +2167

    When I was in college, I was so excited by SpaceX & Tesla. It took me several years & a lot of education to finally understand that Musk wasn't taking us towards Star Trek, he's taking us towards Blade Runner.
    Nowadays it seems insane to me that I was ever taken in.

    • @siddhantbasnet8528
      @siddhantbasnet8528 2 роки тому

      Shut up zoudberg, go back to the future.

    • @SoundsSilver
      @SoundsSilver 2 роки тому +109

      Don’t worry man, lots of people were dumb in college

    • @AndromedaD
      @AndromedaD 2 роки тому +169

      I think the idea of electric cars and expanded space travel are good things to believe in. Musk just isn't the one to get us there

    • @johnnamkeh1290
      @johnnamkeh1290 2 роки тому +18

      @Naikomi They are a little different in that they do move the conservative companies like Boeing or Porsche into different directions. Boeing's space programme or Porsche electric cars would be very different were it not for Musk.
      These companies hopefully will proceed into having an advantage over Musk in not being led by a socially dissociated billionaire but by actual shareholders. One can only hope that they may then take Musk's ideas and make them more practical.

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 2 роки тому +9

      Being able to learn is not a bad, but in some groups a rare habit.
      Congrats for making it.

  • @aidanconnor2274
    @aidanconnor2274 2 роки тому +807

    Elon Musk’s “futuristic ideas” are literally just normal things run through a filter to make them less efficient and more “futuristic”

    • @Asrashas
      @Asrashas 2 роки тому +49

      Or just old Ideas recycled.
      Iirc reusable rocket stages were already proposed by von Braun during. Not sure if during his time in National Socialist Germany or at NASA. Though von Braun did never get the chance to work on it practically. And I'm not sure if it would have been feasible with the technology back then.

    • @highlander918
      @highlander918 Рік тому +39

      The fact that Mars is his first priority when it comes to space says a lot. The moon is way more lucrative

    • @michealfreeman9714
      @michealfreeman9714 Рік тому +5

      The filter is also used to make it more profitable for the individual selling it

    • @simper4951
      @simper4951 Рік тому +6

      @@Asrashas Why is it a problem that it was an old idea, what people like about Musk is that he and his team of workers made it happen. Nobody actually belives he designs the rockets, cars, flamethrowers or neurallinks himself. It is just that he made it happen fast, while no one else seems to be making any significant progress towards the future.

    • @ooccoo6890
      @ooccoo6890 Рік тому +1

      @@simper4951 Finally!!

  • @losharclan7914
    @losharclan7914 3 роки тому +8097

    Elon is a genius, he added rgb lights to the hyperloop.

    • @RindertW
      @RindertW 3 роки тому +305

      Using the same logic as applied in computer science. RGB dop make things faster brrrr.

    • @n3rdy11
      @n3rdy11 3 роки тому +327

      Do you mean that tunnel were Tesla’s drive very slowly trough and still can’t get autopilot to work even in an highly controlled environment?

    • @Battlegris
      @Battlegris 3 роки тому +63

      Ahahahaha! And gained 100.000 zombies by doing so 😂

    • @Peramiiy
      @Peramiiy 3 роки тому +234

      @@n3rdy11 The whole point of that stupid "Loop" was to convince idiot politicians to invest in self driving cars rather than mass transit. Even then Tesla cant get autopilot to work underground in a loop system. That's pathetic if you ask me. Any politician who buy into this scheme is an idiot.

    • @PlaidZoomer
      @PlaidZoomer 3 роки тому +5

      @@Peramiiy that boring tunnel is not called the hyper loop, but it will eventually have self driving cars which will be faster than regular cars due to its safer driving. When that boring tunnel loop opens it will be mass transit so I don’t know what you’re talking about

  • @DamnZodiak
    @DamnZodiak 2 роки тому +1313

    The irony about that star trek episode is that, the person who name dropped Musk as visionary ended up being from the mirror universe, where historical figures often end up morally opposite to our "prime" universe. Pretty sure that was just an oversight (like so many others in Discovery) but still hilarious IMO.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 роки тому +174

      I can only hope that was no oversight at all.

    • @stefanbalan3405
      @stefanbalan3405 2 роки тому +26

      Finally the comment I searched for ...

    • @gaiusjuliuspleaser
      @gaiusjuliuspleaser 2 роки тому +122

      @@nobodynoone2500 Given what you've seen of Discovery and their "that's the power of math, people!" attitude, do you really think this show was even trying to be remotely critical of a charlatan like Musk? Discovery, much like Musk, pays lip service to the idea of science, without actually understanding much of it.

    • @SpectroliteDS2400
      @SpectroliteDS2400 2 роки тому +60

      @@gaiusjuliuspleaser that almost makes it even funnier in an ironic way.

    • @jeepersjava
      @jeepersjava 2 роки тому +9

      Discovery is actually so disappointing:/

  • @jotriDerSalzige
    @jotriDerSalzige Рік тому +128

    Elon Musk is treated like he's a visionary just because he watched Blade Runner and thought 'I can make this real!' without wasting a second thinking about it realistically.

  • @georges3799
    @georges3799 2 роки тому +415

    If Elon announced that he would build an interplanetary hyperloop to make space travel easier; I'm sure there would be plenty of eager fools ready to invest.

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 2 роки тому +9

      Boring a wormhole to Mars would save travel time.
      And would multrupple the Bored Company‘s stock value.

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 2 роки тому +1

      @ryckak let’s try the one way prototype with the most important man on earth.
      Back trip will be uploaded „over the air“
      Next year.

    • @aragorn1780
      @aragorn1780 Рік тому +11

      He would totally be the guy to sell earth to the Vogons to make an interspace bypass xD

    • @georges3799
      @georges3799 Рік тому +3

      @@aragorn1780
      His great grandfather on his mother's side is from Vogshpere.

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 Рік тому +3

      @@aragorn1780
      „We passed upon the stair
      We spoke of was and when
      Although I wasn't there
      He said I was his friend
      Which came as a surprise
      I spoke into his eyes
      I thought you died alone
      A long long time ago
      Oh no, not me
      We never lost control
      You're face to face
      With the man who sold the world“

  • @demongannondorf
    @demongannondorf 3 роки тому +3432

    I'm tight with an ex Tesla employee and the workplace was a nightmare. They were overworked to the point where their physical health was declining, and any time musk came through everyone walked on eggshells around him because he'd fire people at the drop of a hat

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 3 роки тому +486

      How can anybody work for such a guy? Jobs was already a prick but Musk is on a new level.

    • @discoloured3492
      @discoloured3492 3 роки тому +648

      @@paulgoogol2652 well, elon musk is indeed smart, that intelligence made his "fans" have a cult like base, it's nothing surprising, elon musk seems like a amazing guy and what not, but if you dive a bit deeper he is a demon. A magical liar, and I don't even hate his products just him.

    • @discoloured3492
      @discoloured3492 3 роки тому +205

      @James Tarantula yeah ngl if I said he wasn't as intelligent people gonna disregard everything I said tbh but indeed sir.

    • @BradPwnsU
      @BradPwnsU 3 роки тому +34

      @James Tarantula he's just the richest man in the world LOL

    • @joshuabryant9845
      @joshuabryant9845 3 роки тому +372

      @@BradPwnsU Was, until tesla stocks dropped again. Also, this has been discussed so many times already, but wealth doesn't equal intelligence

  • @gerrymcerlean8432
    @gerrymcerlean8432 2 роки тому +3809

    Elon Musk is a true genius - and I can prove it. The Las Vegas Loop looked like being a huge disappointment - 3 people in a Tesla car (with a driver) travelling at 35mph instead of the promised 16 people in an automous 'pod' driving at 150mph. But Elon turned this near failure into a huge success simply by adding some lovely LED lights. Now that's genius!

    • @Gustoberg
      @Gustoberg 2 роки тому +116

      his innovations are just WOW chef's kiss

    • @iKingRPG
      @iKingRPG 2 роки тому +18

      The "pods" will come eventually, but Tesla has to actually make them first.
      The people who say the cars are a disappointment and that they should've used trains and rails that can carry 1,000 people, are either just really dumb, or missing context.
      The tunnel is 1 mile long, it's just meant to quickly get people across the convention center. Small vehicles make much more sense

    • @birdrocket
      @birdrocket 2 роки тому +329

      @@iKingRPG then why not build a traditional people mover? Steel wheels on rails is more efficient and requires much less maintenance. Level boarding means faster load/unload times and better accessibility. Incredibly simple to automate.
      And beyond that, the Loop was marketed to the City of Las Vegas _as_ a mass transit system, eventually connecting the entire strip and beyond. The City has actually entered a contract with The Boring Company to create a “mass transit” system now, and it has exclusivity, meaning no other transit agency can expand until the Loop finishes or flops.

    • @johntheux9238
      @johntheux9238 2 роки тому +8

      It's a success. In fact the 29 miles extension was just approved.

    • @johntheux9238
      @johntheux9238 2 роки тому +6

      @@LeafTheWitch Well, this extension was proposed 2 years ago and since they exceeded their 4400 people per hour goal in a test on May the 25th it's not a surprise...

  • @Eric-ye5yz
    @Eric-ye5yz Рік тому +83

    I first lost respect for Elon Musk when he said he was going to build a small submarine to rescue the football team trapped in a cave in Thailand. He expected them to wait while he grandstanded to get hero status.

    • @dylanschmidt9056
      @dylanschmidt9056 Рік тому +1

      And called one of divers helping with the rescue effort a pedophile.

    • @JCDenton3
      @JCDenton3 Рік тому +1

      And called the actual hero who organized and led a team to rescue the boys, a pedophile simply because he politely refused the worthless submarine that would never have made it past the sharp bend in the cave that was causing so many problems.

    • @LuizAlexPhoenix
      @LuizAlexPhoenix Рік тому +35

      Then he called actual volunteers pedophiles for trying to save kids.

    • @maggiee639
      @maggiee639 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I remember that and thinking how weird it was

    • @Elliot_97
      @Elliot_97 Місяць тому

      He asked the Thai authorities on the ground there if such a thing might be useful, and they told him that it would and to proceed with development. Nobody waited around for it.
      His behaviour after the fact was shameful, however.

  • @mrnigl1
    @mrnigl1 2 роки тому +135

    I was a Musk fan. Years ago. After looking at him more closely i realized hes nothing more than a snake oil salesman. He sells hopes and dreams that will never come true.

    • @apex107lrp
      @apex107lrp Рік тому

      ...or they do come close to his claims, but the price is way higher...or the price is close but the product falls short of the claims. Either way, he's half full of sh$t.

  • @twistedbunny
    @twistedbunny 3 роки тому +5125

    lol it's comforting finding people who don't buy into all the BS, i started to think i was losing it

    • @fsdfgasgfisd
      @fsdfgasgfisd 3 роки тому +126

      Same here

    • @COMBLOCVZ58
      @COMBLOCVZ58 3 роки тому +309

      Hyperloop is probably the most absurd

    • @imold5363
      @imold5363 3 роки тому +17

      Same hete

    • @Joso997
      @Joso997 3 роки тому +74

      Thunderfoot

    • @user-ls7pt2fd9l
      @user-ls7pt2fd9l 3 роки тому +41

      Iam curios why would you call call musk ideas and projects BS ?

  • @lebrigand4115
    @lebrigand4115 2 роки тому +2570

    Making electric cars cool in the eye of the public isn't even Musk's idea. It was the idea of the two founders of Tesla.

    • @WillOfFir
      @WillOfFir 2 роки тому +281

      that car that elon musk sent to space belonged to one of the founders.. founder was supposed to get it originally, but somehow elon managed to steal it from him

    • @JeyAnirudhJekka
      @JeyAnirudhJekka 2 роки тому +76

      What y'all don't realise is that without elon entering tesla and making investments in it's initial stages, the company wouldn't even exist today. Elon saved tesla from getting bankrupt. Go look at it's history.

    • @lebrigand4115
      @lebrigand4115 2 роки тому +480

      @@JeyAnirudhJekka So you admit he's not a visionary, he's just a dude that injected cash in Tesla. Nobody disputes that.

    • @JeyAnirudhJekka
      @JeyAnirudhJekka 2 роки тому +75

      @@lebrigand4115 if he wanted to make money, why would he invest in a failing company that too especially in a time where electric cars were mocked at? There were so many other easier ways he could have made money other than investing into a startup whose future was looking bleak at that time? Why would he take such a risk?

    • @JeyAnirudhJekka
      @JeyAnirudhJekka 2 роки тому +39

      @@lebrigand4115 and about the visionary thing, he's already visionary enough for me for making reusable space rockets which revolutionised the space industry. Only because of him now almost all private companies are pushing towards reusable rockets which can make space travel sustainable.

  • @737e7dhs4
    @737e7dhs4 Рік тому +33

    By what I have understood, most people think his main Objective is removing the line between rich and poor but in reality he is just making it broader

  • @marcuscarana9240
    @marcuscarana9240 2 роки тому +421

    Elon Musk is indeed very skillful, very intelligent and a genius not as a scientist or an engineer but as a conman. Being able to fool so many people into believing your lies is something that is actually very difficult to do but Musk has perfected it. He was able to paint himself as this technology saint that would guide humanity into evolution despite the fact 99 percent of the work was done by unrecognised workers.

    • @hydrohasspoken6227
      @hydrohasspoken6227 Рік тому

      You are underestimating idiots. How many of those people he comvinces are intelligent people?

    • @wizardtim8573
      @wizardtim8573 Рік тому +11

      Eh?
      All you have to do to get a lot of people to believe your lies is tell MORE than a lot of people those lies.
      This isn't rocket science, this is basic psychology 101. If you tell a thousand people that there are Martians on Mars, chances are you're going to convince a few hundred that there actually ARE Martians on Mars.
      Some dude said the world was Flat. Guess where this example is going.

    • @cloudymccloud00
      @cloudymccloud00 Рік тому +5

      I don't think he's a liar at all. He seems to really believe his own BS.

    • @loripower7819
      @loripower7819 Рік тому +3

      Do you have any proof of his skills, intelligence and genius? Have you heard him speak?

    • @arkoisagoodboy
      @arkoisagoodboy Рік тому +1

      You're using technology he invented right now.

  • @ceezmad1
    @ceezmad1 2 роки тому +440

    I agree about the loop, people criticize it as inefficient compared to trains, but people ignore that is a marketing scheme for his cars and keeps important people away from us, the unwashed masses.

    • @StNick119
      @StNick119 2 роки тому +24

      I believe he said this at some point himself, saying that he hated public transport and that having to spend time in enclosed spaces with strangers should be undesirable to everyone.

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 2 роки тому +36

      @@StNick119 Yes, and he got called out for it. *"In cities, [Felon Musk's] hatred of sharing space with strangers is a luxury (or pathology) that only the rich can afford. Letting him design cities is the essence of elite projection."*

    • @TheoTattaglia
      @TheoTattaglia 2 роки тому +12

      If you own a car manufacturer you can't be mad at traffic. Wanting most of the cars in traffic to be manufactured by your company makes way more sense. All he did was make it obvious, to the ones who didn't know, that quality public transportation is superior.

    • @williansouza8724
      @williansouza8724 Рік тому +3

      nevermind that the tunnels are actually terribly dangerous in case of an accident. if one tesla’s battery pack catches on fire down there it’s game over for everyone.

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 Рік тому +1

      You also need to look at the rebuttals the Musk fans give trying to point out how much cheaper it is than metro. That kind of points out that saving the rich money is more important than providing service to the poor.
      I never thought having trains be commercial made sense. They are a public service to allow for people to meet and for the poor to work away from home and visit places. A good public transportation system should be government ran and funded as an indirect service to the poor. If some middle and rich people use it, that's good for the climate but it's main purpose should be for the poor.
      Musk's argument that in a train you could get robbed is actually why we should have trains. So that the rich can't so easily isolate themselves from the pain they inflict on the poor.

  • @OlivierGabin
    @OlivierGabin 2 роки тому +1697

    "The Loop is not a mass transportation system, but a transportation system for the elite, to separate them from the vulgus pecum" (I rewrite it slightly but I keep the idea) - Excellent definition.
    And you see this in every projects he made : designed for an elite, not a masse... This decryption key of Musk behaviour is highly pertinent, thanks a lot to formulate it.

    • @lucabrandalesi1265
      @lucabrandalesi1265 2 роки тому +146

      Not only: he focuses on private and single transportation, which is not the solution to climate change. He wants to move containers with single, battery powered pods, which will create massive pollution and more poverty in places where they mine lithium, while freight trains exist already.
      Also, his family got rich with apartheid. It's enough for me to not like him

    • @GeneralLiuofBoston1911
      @GeneralLiuofBoston1911 2 роки тому +75

      @@lucabrandalesi1265 I will say it again and again. *inhales* WE NEED ELECTRIFIED HEAVY AND LIGHT RAIL NOT BATTERY POWERED HYPERLOOP PODS *exhales*
      If we keep using such an idea like his "personalized" whatever and designing it to entice the type of kids who stream on twitch. RGB lighting, boxy vehicle design, and the feeling to travel "in style".
      His plans do not put the interest of the common people like his Space X program or whatever rocket plan to shoot people to their destination "in just 30 minutes"*
      *travel time does not include refueling, security checks, travel by boat to his ocean platforms, boarding the boat, security check at the boat, departing the boat, boarding the rocket, and departing the rocket.
      We have the means to transport mass amounts of people with electric vehicles (electric trains, which have existed for over 100 years). We know it works, it is widely used, and uses much less amounts of batteries or rocket fuel that Elon Musk plans to use.

    • @mrinank8494
      @mrinank8494 2 роки тому +10

      We'll all these usually lead to a lot of innovation along the way. A lot of innovation came from the first space race, including asthma inhalers. Battery technology meant for cars can also be used for storage in the future, which would remove one of the major limitations of renewable energy. He's just answering a demand, because American transport is Anyway highly personalized. Everyone already owns a car. No one says cars are designed for the elite. Sure, there are a bunch of problems with lack of mass transportation, but that's the governments fault. Musk is simply responding to demand for better private transportation.

    • @minidreschi2
      @minidreschi2 2 роки тому +19

      I just don't understand how can he call himself socialist? Is he giving something "back"? Doing something i don't know?

    • @lucabrandalesi1265
      @lucabrandalesi1265 2 роки тому +46

      @@minidreschi2 no he's not. He's trying to appeal to young people who are trying to understand what socialism is and make them new clients for his rich people's toys

  • @esdraslopez4658
    @esdraslopez4658 2 роки тому +254

    So many people equate Elon Musk with a real life Tony Stark, but the truth is while both are man babies, Tony Stark actually invented stuff.

    • @doctorwholover1012
      @doctorwholover1012 Рік тому +32

      Musk is all bark no bite, at least the fictional character Tony Stark has some goddamn bite

    • @Skrenja
      @Skrenja Рік тому +1

      Tony Stark is a “man baby.” Uh, how exactly?

    • @esdraslopez4658
      @esdraslopez4658 Рік тому +1

      @@doctorwholover1012 thats what Im saying

    • @esdraslopez4658
      @esdraslopez4658 Рік тому +12

      @@Skrenja Iron Man 2, nuff said

    • @mr.perfectcell1887
      @mr.perfectcell1887 Рік тому +1

      Now now, Musk DID set up his charging stations as the primary source of power for electric cars, then patent just the shape of his ports so no other cars could use his stations, to hurt other electric car companies. Wait a minute...

  • @judithbradford9130
    @judithbradford9130 Рік тому +56

    finally, I hear someone else hit exactly the same point I have been making about Musk since he announced his hyperloop idiocy. he's never fantasized solutions to social problems; everything he presents AS such are really the world's richest man dreaming up ways to solve his own personal pet peeves, from having to be delayed by traffic to his social network of preference being moderated according to imperatives other than his preference.

  • @paulmarchano7238
    @paulmarchano7238 3 роки тому +1726

    People need to be critical thinkers and take the good and bad of these so called “inspirational idols”. Many just want to eat whatever smells good without asking what’s actually in the food.

    • @joshmarshall7610
      @joshmarshall7610 3 роки тому +69

      But that's the problem really, isn't it? Current society, and more importantly, the younger generations have seemingly lost the ability to be critical thinkers, they devour anything put in front of them, whether it's good or bad. The amount of idiotic "news" handed out on social media and even mainstream media, is taken as fact, without any question

    • @paulmarchano7238
      @paulmarchano7238 3 роки тому +15

      @@joshmarshall7610 I concur wholeheartedly.

    • @claynorth964
      @claynorth964 3 роки тому +105

      @@joshmarshall7610 this might be a shocker but, people have ALWAYS been that stupid; its in our nature.

    • @thegoodsmaster
      @thegoodsmaster 3 роки тому +10

      @@johnbiscuit8272 he gets tax breaks no other company gets. our government see and economic incentive to build electric car. "the red scare" in chinas 3 large EV manufactures pushing tesla out of china. so they will orchestrate geopolitical moves to ensure musk has the supplies to remain dominant. like overthrowing countries that have rare minerals essential to batteries. the same way we disrupt central america and the middle east for oil for gas production.
      so hes technically spending our money through under the table agreement for more materials for manufacturing supplies and to boost tesla share price. hell nancy pelosi sold some stock option when biden made his go EV initiative

    • @whatwhale5888
      @whatwhale5888 3 роки тому +46

      @@joshmarshall7610 lol ok boomer. The younger generation isnt the ones you should be worried about when it comes to critical thinking skills. Gen z and millennials arent the ones out there legit believing bill gates is microchipping us with the vaccine or whatever

  • @zarfmouse
    @zarfmouse 3 роки тому +1088

    Discovery Season 1 Spoilers: Let's not overlook that the Star Trek character who cited Musk as a hero later turns out to be an evil doppelganger from a universe where human culture glorifies cruelty, competition, and treachery.

    • @JewTube001
      @JewTube001 3 роки тому +105

      it's really fitting for lorca to bring up musk and the way he did it.

    • @khadijakenneth5107
      @khadijakenneth5107 3 роки тому +74

      Oh my God, I didn't even realize! Man, that's clever of the writers. Well spotted

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 3 роки тому +24

      @@khadijakenneth5107 or might be just unintended part, as The STDs writer answered a question on why there is paraplegic crew member on discovery with dumber answer that paraplegic is part of identity pride.

    • @jonkomatsu8192
      @jonkomatsu8192 3 роки тому +9

      Perhaps the alien meant Jeff Bezos, but got his Earth history mixed up. Hah! 😏

    • @Ireallywouldrathernot
      @Ireallywouldrathernot 3 роки тому +7

      Frankly, they should have known on the spot something was wrong with that guy.

  • @lenareuti9063
    @lenareuti9063 Рік тому +36

    I once read a statement saying " the future is already here. Its just not evenly distributed" and that works quite well for this video too imo

  • @harpermcalpineblack8573
    @harpermcalpineblack8573 Рік тому +22

    The reason Musk's ideas resonate with people is because his vision is pure adolescent science fiction. Sci-fi movies sold us a future. Anyone raised on sci-fi movies, or Star trek etc., will think the trajectory of history is with Musk. I'm not surprised he has a big fan base.

  • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
    @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 3 роки тому +1655

    around 21:25 "Young people seem to want to believe in the future again", odd thought, but I have to wonder if it is that we believe in the future or that we so thoroughly don't believe in the present that we feel a need to cling on to something else. I don't know if anyone else agrees or disagrees but it seems interesting to question whether millenials and younger people are so much pro-future as anti-present?

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +318

      I think that's a really good point. I definitely agree that the emergent belief in the future amongst younger people comes to some extent from a massive sense of disenfranchisement in the present. I guess I kinda argued that in my Millennial Socialism video (although I made that so long ago now that I can't quite remember what the argument of that video was!).

    • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
      @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 3 роки тому +98

      @@Tom_Nicholas lol forgetting stuff you did, I can relate to that with some of the papers and classes I've taken.

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +170

      Haha, I've been editing my PhD recently and the amount of times I've gone back to a chapter and been like "oh wow, yeah, I forgot about this bit" is ridiculous.

    •  3 роки тому +11

      You've just put me on a spiral, mate

    • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
      @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 3 роки тому +8

      @ You have no idea how happy it makes me to do that to people

  • @MidnightIam
    @MidnightIam 3 роки тому +2247

    When master and slave both pray to the same God, someone's prayer isn't getting answered

    • @STAR-RADIANCE
      @STAR-RADIANCE 3 роки тому +23

      Unless that God doesn’t have respect for so-called human status.

    • @sirkiz1181
      @sirkiz1181 3 роки тому +183

      @@STAR-RADIANCE I don’t think you understood what he said

    • @STAR-RADIANCE
      @STAR-RADIANCE 3 роки тому +13

      @@sirkiz1181 yeah I understand the statement.
      I also understand that God doesn’t respect human status. God can answer both prayers.
      He will answer based upon their motives.

    • @sirkiz1181
      @sirkiz1181 3 роки тому +204

      @@STAR-RADIANCE You still don’t understand what Op said. His point is that slave wouldn’t be a slave if God was answering his prayers

    • @STAR-RADIANCE
      @STAR-RADIANCE 3 роки тому +21

      @@sirkiz1181 yeah I understand. What you don’t understand is that anyone who prays to God needs to repent, slave and master alike, before God is going to hear their prayer.
      God does not distinguish between the two the same way we do. The slave may remain a slave until God says otherwise.
      The point is that God’s ways are not our ways.

  • @neku2741
    @neku2741 2 роки тому +56

    Elon's idea of change always involved himself making a lot of money.

  • @GameDevNerd
    @GameDevNerd Рік тому +81

    Elon Musk's "futurism" is really just bits and pieces of stuff he saw in old Science Channel documentaries and claims he's gonna do. I see it all the time where the media credits him with some lofty idea like having brain-computer interfaces or a Mars colony and I actually saw the same ideas on a Science Channel documentary 10 or 20 years ago. Elon just has a similar taste for documentaries to mine, but I never tried to take credit for the ideas to impress the more ignorant majority of our society ... in retrospect, I should have!

    • @blocksource4192
      @blocksource4192 Рік тому +2

      Same retrospect here, why should I and my family run businesses legally? We should all just lie about our profits, functionality, etc and sell broken company to rich men!

  • @blank4181
    @blank4181 2 роки тому +87

    "Elon musks utopia is not Startrek. It's Bladerunner." -Adam Something

    • @Skrenja
      @Skrenja Рік тому

      I like that quote but Adam Something is a tool.

  • @petergreene4428
    @petergreene4428 3 роки тому +1633

    A real missed opportunity not naming your character for this one “Major Tom”...great video (as always)

    • @averyjackblack7420
      @averyjackblack7420 3 роки тому +16

      Lol for real 😹

    • @noahzemp3105
      @noahzemp3105 3 роки тому +9

      I was just listening the when i clicked on this video 🤯

    • @itstrbo
      @itstrbo 3 роки тому +21

      Ostensibly "Tom" was Major Tom's last name ...its not common to refer to military members by rank and first name

    • @john-paulhunt9798
      @john-paulhunt9798 3 роки тому +3

      @@averyjackblack7420 mmm. Nods watching music video once.

    • @averyjackblack7420
      @averyjackblack7420 3 роки тому +1

      @@john-paulhunt9798 🌹✨

  • @nothinglastsforever0000
    @nothinglastsforever0000 Рік тому +27

    This aged like a fine wine

    • @MichaelJones-wj4mo
      @MichaelJones-wj4mo 11 місяців тому

      Crazy to think that now Musk has intentionally and publicly sided with conservative thought. It’s interesting that this political changeover happened as he became the richest man on the planet. He likes the status quo quite a lot

  • @evertonc1448
    @evertonc1448 2 роки тому +343

    *Musk is good at making himself look smart in front of ignorant people.*
    I think one of the eye openers for me to fully see Musk for what he is was when he decided to be into cryptocurrencies and became a Blockchain specialist in a couple months: his revolutionary solution to Blockchain transaction prices and speed? Increase the block size.
    He said this in 2021, that was proved to not work 7 years ago by actual Blockchain software engineers in the Bitcoin foundation and was actually practically tried by the Bitcoin Cash fork.

    • @homevalueglass3809
      @homevalueglass3809 2 роки тому +26

      Yeah and pumping doge coin? I'm surprised Elon hasn't made his own cryptocurrency yet and move beyond POW but perhaps he doesn't feel like getting sued by the SEC.

    • @Chance57
      @Chance57 2 роки тому +23

      Elon Musk is the Jordan Peterson of tech bros? Makes sense. The Venn diagram of their acolytes is nearly a perfect circle.

    • @deedee7780
      @deedee7780 2 роки тому +9

      @@Chance57 Can you explain what you mean by Elon is the Jordan Peterson of tech bros? I personally think they're both charlatans.

    • @pm6127
      @pm6127 2 роки тому

      @@deedee7780 both have a cult following especially the incel types.

    • @toufikhb253
      @toufikhb253 Рік тому +1

      @@deedee7780 in what way is a jp a charlatan ? What does he sell tho?

  • @ragalyiakos
    @ragalyiakos 2 роки тому +363

    I was so invested in your recap of 20th and 21st century attitudes towards the future, that I was I completely shocked when you brought up Musk again, and then realized "Oh yeah, this video was about Elon Musk, I forgot!"

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 роки тому +18

      It deserves its own video TBH. The "cancelling of the future" happens every few decades as governments legislate an "engineering Freeze" of sorts to figure out how to rule others in the new landscape.

    • @murraymadness4674
      @murraymadness4674 2 роки тому +4

      Agree, the first half was interesting, have not heard that interpretation of history, but it makes sense, glad to have watched it. The rest I stopped watching it half way through.
      Must is just another billionaire and tesla is just another car company. The Roadster days it was something great. Then Musk took over and made it unspecial.

    • @onedwinone
      @onedwinone 2 роки тому +1

      Sounds somebody who loves to voice his own thoughts ,or what hes been trained to think at college.

    • @benm3382
      @benm3382 2 роки тому +4

      @@murraymadness4674 well you should have watched the rest because you obviously have no idea what he was about to say. His main point is that Musk excites people because he openly thinks about the future, but that people should be more aware of the fact that Musks plans for the future involve helping the elite few survive against the many.

    • @paulryan2128
      @paulryan2128 2 роки тому +2

      @@onedwinone So go on ... what more do you have to say?

  • @porters.5811
    @porters.5811 3 роки тому +2081

    I think a more accurate title might be: "The Deceptive Futurism of Elon Musk"

    • @nishantak911
      @nishantak911 3 роки тому +26

      fake is more alliterative

    • @rafaeterna1081
      @rafaeterna1081 2 роки тому +8

      @@peskypigeonxlet's be honest, his opinion doesn't matter to you vice versa lol

    • @gcburns4
      @gcburns4 2 роки тому +15

      I'd disagree with it. I do think Musk seeks legend and legacy status, but I do not think he is an elitist at all. I think he is far less driven by money than most near his level. He has consistently pushed for industry wide change, government change, and more competition in the sake of making technology more affordable. Even with respect to the intro to this video, Musk has commented at length and even structured the Starship program to make Mars as accessible to all as possible. (he thinks it can eventually be like 150k) . I generally think he is very open and honest and views himself in very human ways.. but he absolutely wants the world to never forget his name. For the record, I do not think there will be any colony on Mars in pretty much anyone's lifetime. Hurdles are massive and unseen. A scientific outpost in a decade or so would be cool though.

    • @Anonymous-vr6ph
      @Anonymous-vr6ph 2 роки тому +12

      For me Elon Musk is one of the only humans on this planet (that I know) who is really trying to change something. Even if for me above all counts, that he tries with all means to escape the extinction of our species. This he tries by founding a company whereby he wants to send people to Mars. And even if I could now explain how this helps mankind, I am not here because of that. Because even if he runs a company like almost every other capitalist, he tries with this company something that no one else does. I would bet on governmental institutions (like NASA) but they are absolutely not relevant anymore (This is supported by the fact that mankind has not been on the moon for about 50 years). And of course now again people can come and argue that we should not look at the sky but on the ground of the facts. However, I would strongly recommend them to deal with our future and the possibility of space exploration. Period.

    • @zico739
      @zico739 2 роки тому +4

      No, “fake” is the best word to go with.

  • @jasontiscione1741
    @jasontiscione1741 2 роки тому +75

    Elon is trying to back out of his ill-timed Twitter deal by pretending they kept their trolls a secret from him. He’s the type of guy who proposes marriage, and then takes it back once he gets off the plane and meets you in person.

    • @BlurNZ
      @BlurNZ 2 роки тому +2

      Given we all know he goes for anime cat girls, I can only assume you catfished him sir!
      I'm sorry, you just set that up so well...

    • @Helperbot-2000
      @Helperbot-2000 Рік тому

      its just like i thought myself it was, a pr stunt

    • @kalebjones9973
      @kalebjones9973 Рік тому +1

      I mean they literally weren't transparent with how many bot accounts there was. Not as many users as advertised=less value

    • @jasontiscione1741
      @jasontiscione1741 Рік тому +3

      @@kalebjones9973 So you're saying once he kicks the bots off the site becomes MORE valuable! Getting rid of bots was one of his stated reasons for entering the contract. The type of contract he signed makes representations by Twitter not actionable. He has to prove that these undisclosed bots will put Twitter out of business no matter what he does.

    • @kennethhwang3425
      @kennethhwang3425 Рік тому +2

      @@jasontiscione1741 Also, getting rid of bots has always been and will always be a Sisyphean task.

  • @Deondre_Clark
    @Deondre_Clark Рік тому +26

    Seeing this is 2 years old makes it that much more amazing. Waaaaay too many sane people were drinking that Musk kool-aid back then. Great video!

    • @nah9585
      @nah9585 5 місяців тому

      3 years and oddly more relevant...

  • @bryberkson491
    @bryberkson491 3 роки тому +147

    Musk fans often say "Well, I trust him because he's successful." As well as being a big ass fallacy, it is exhausting

    • @mock15halo
      @mock15halo 3 роки тому +11

      I don't recall seeing "Well, I trust him because he's successful." being a comment that's made often. Do I trust Bezos because he's successful? Do I trust Stalin because he was successful (when it comes to gaining power)? No. I more-so often hear people trusting him because he's decided to do things with his money that has advanced mankind in certain sectors when he easily could have cashed out his shares when stocks peaked or made some boring fucking company that gave nothing back to the world.

    • @Sednas
      @Sednas 3 роки тому +6

      Strawman fallacy, nobody ever said that genius.

    • @Daniela-pr7rz
      @Daniela-pr7rz 3 роки тому +7

      @@mock15halo People trust him, or more likely, pay attention to him because he has a history of having targets that are considered unlikely to succeed and he reached some of them against all odds. That can be exciting to witness or at least entertaining.

    • @420raulduke
      @420raulduke 2 роки тому +5

      Literally saw this argument here in the comments.

    • @SiriusMined
      @SiriusMined 2 роки тому +1

      Well said "he's duped a lot of other people, so I'll be duped too!"

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 3 роки тому +1206

    as someone who studies engineering the more i learn about the field any admiration i had for musk is quickly lost.

    • @alphaomega6023
      @alphaomega6023 3 роки тому +18

      Why?

    • @hellNo116
      @hellNo116 3 роки тому +555

      @@alphaomega6023 he just speak out of his ass on many subjects he has no firm knowledge on. he overworks my fellow engineers and acts like their achievements are his. he wasn't even the original owner of tesla. he happened to be the one to popularise it. also his motive of space exploration are not purely scientific so if left unchecked by the scientific community could result in situations that ppl end up fighting of ownership over mars and maybe even access to findings.

    • @GG-jn9fx
      @GG-jn9fx 3 роки тому +317

      Exact same thing happened to me lol you begin to realize real innovation is done through insane amounts of cross discipline collaboration.

    • @GG-jn9fx
      @GG-jn9fx 3 роки тому +275

      @@alphaomega6023 for me, the thought of someone marketing himself as this prophet like inventor is no different then one of those ig stock market gurus. Real innovation takes a lot of teamwork and it’s slow as shit (Not saying we should stop innovating).

    • @hellNo116
      @hellNo116 3 роки тому +137

      @@GG-jn9fx that ^.
      it is so annoying that we have many times be forced to reinvent the wheel.
      they are so many problems solved but are not published and are in the libraries of some companies.

  • @theblacklapinou
    @theblacklapinou 2 роки тому +18

    I totally agree with you. Doesn’t need an engineering degree to see the major flaws in a popular application of muks’s « dreams », the funny thing is ; because he’s playing it so « down to earth, like any other nerds dude », it never occurred to me that the plans never intended to be applied to « lower class » people. Like, I knew it could never be given to the masses, but this video made me realize it never was the plan. It’s so obvious now.

  • @ketrakrelek2347
    @ketrakrelek2347 3 роки тому +328

    as a civil engineer i've always rolled my eyes at the hyperloop for being super inefficient (similarly for his idea to use excavated soil to make earth bricks, it's not that simple! 😅) but you pointing out that we shouldn't assume his schemes are actually for everyone/the public totally makes the inefficiencies make sense. anyway thanks for another great explanation of theory, this science phd student really appreciates the clear but not patronising introductions to ideas :)

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 3 роки тому +6

      Which hyperloop idea? The pressurised pipe or, subways, but for cars?

    • @unknownsoldier452
      @unknownsoldier452 3 роки тому +8

      @@bri1085 Don't bother, these people could not tell the difference even if you presented them with the schematics.

    • @mattheworegan5371
      @mattheworegan5371 3 роки тому +42

      You can really teel who Musk is when his response to affordable housing is "yeah, the proles can have my dirt"

    • @akzebraminer5679
      @akzebraminer5679 3 роки тому +16

      I don’t think hyperloop would work, Elon Musk isn’t even working on it himself.

    • @brianleonard6598
      @brianleonard6598 3 роки тому +40

      @@unknownsoldier452 Found the Musk fanboy

  • @jrg2866
    @jrg2866 3 роки тому +1351

    TL;DW: Anyone who says they can save the world with the power of *product* isn't saving you, they're selling to you.

    • @askzeidler-due7975
      @askzeidler-due7975 3 роки тому +65

      please tell me when elon musk claimed to be saving the world? i mean really, it isn't him that's claiming to be saving the world, its his fans. he has both negative and positive aspects, everybody does. i mean sure you can say that he has done moral things. but you cannot deny that he has greatly aided the advancement of space technology, electric cars, batteries, solar panels, etc. he is not a saint, but he is not the devil either.

    • @jrg2866
      @jrg2866 3 роки тому +47

      @@TheNastyTank The only input consumers can give is "how much money would I pay for this." With clever advertising, you can make your consumer base pay way more for a product that barely does anything.
      For example, you could make car owners think that travelling in a massive underground road network will avert the climate catastrophe, when in reality, it's much better to take a bus or a train.

    • @jrg2866
      @jrg2866 3 роки тому +24

      @@TheNastyTank Public transit systems have to be developed by local governments, not companies. Nearly all of their funding comes from taxpayers, not ticket fares, and because of our government's hesitation to spend, they're falling apart across the country.
      And at any rate, transportation doesn't account for most carbon emissions. While it does account for 28% of US emissions, there's still electricity production, agriculture, and more. www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
      Keeping track of all of the power companies, food companies, and problematic industries is extremely difficult at best. Any plan that relies on a majority of people doing that will fail.

    • @jrg2866
      @jrg2866 3 роки тому +48

      @@TheNastyTank I support public transit because I live in the most densely populated city in the country, and I need to use it to get anywhere. There's no comparison shopping and no marketing, save for notices announcing plans to renovate stations. Subways and buses aren't products marketed to us, they're basic infrastructure cities need to function, like roads.
      You seem to think that I'm arguing that the concept of marketing is evil, and I'm not; I'm saying that ads can be misleading. Marketing for products ranging from electric cars to bottled water constantly greenwash to make you think that you're helping the environment by giving them money, but you aren't.

    • @lordchipmonk1
      @lordchipmonk1 3 роки тому +5

      The two are not mutually exclusive. Just as someone giving you something for no cost does not always benefit you.

  • @LunarPenguin42
    @LunarPenguin42 2 роки тому +32

    amazing how its possible to talk about ford without mentioning the horrific labour conditions he put his workers in

    • @Trouble_Bubble36
      @Trouble_Bubble36 Рік тому +6

      If you saw the title of the video, you would realize it’s not about Henry Ford.

    • @oddfellowone
      @oddfellowone Рік тому

      Musk is trying to do the same thing, firing those who criticize or unionize. If you want to see manipulation, look at Solar City, a company that Tesla didn’t want, but forced the sale, which he legally should have had nothing to do with so he could transfer hundreds of millions to his cousins at SC. In two years SC was dead.

    • @rjmendlein
      @rjmendlein Рік тому +6

      AND Musk seems to appreciate and model that aspect of Ford. I cannot imagine being a Musk employee when he regularly berates them and breaks most labor laws.

    • @bethanychatman9531
      @bethanychatman9531 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Trouble_Bubble36 WOW, way to miss the point.

  • @steverrobbins10
    @steverrobbins10 5 місяців тому +5

    I love that you made this before Elon bought twitter and demonstrated publicly the ... divergence ... between his words and his actions.

  • @idsbraam
    @idsbraam 3 роки тому +676

    'A real life tony stark'
    Aaannnddd Musk makes weapon delivery systems now.

    • @MotoGoato
      @MotoGoato 3 роки тому +21

      I'm wondering where his flying weaponised robotic wearable suit is ......

    • @chadmueller9135
      @chadmueller9135 3 роки тому +24

      @@MotoGoato that would actually be a badass invention. His Teslas sure aren't.

    • @poisondamage2182
      @poisondamage2182 3 роки тому +90

      @@MotoGoato musk is pre iron man tony stark, the one that thinks war-profiteering is good actually

    • @koreboredom4302
      @koreboredom4302 3 роки тому +18

      @@poisondamage2182 is it too late to call up some middle eastern terrorists?

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 3 роки тому +4

      You mean his workers are...

  • @G0DofRock
    @G0DofRock 3 роки тому +2156

    Elon Musk wants to build roads at the bottom of the ocean...
    Fanboys: "WOW that's sooo ambitious..."
    -_-

    • @G0DofRock
      @G0DofRock 3 роки тому +291

      I remember just a few years ago how 'insane' it was to think that there was still water on Mars...
      Now Elon Musk suggests living there, on a planet with no atmosphere or conditions to survive...
      And this is somehow going to be an escape from Earth once climate-change has dealt catastrophic effects.
      You do realize that the planet will still be habitable and we will for the most part have breathable air?
      This Mars bullshit, Hyperloop, it's all just one big Theranos project that they are keeping hush-hush about, and will continue to downplay the lack of progress so that he can reach unfathomable wealth via investors (which he has done) so that he can retreat into his series of underground bunkers on THIS planet once shit hits the fan.

    • @yb7607
      @yb7607 3 роки тому +5

      Exactly!

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 3 роки тому +44

      Call them fanbots instead. Bots will be bots.

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 3 роки тому +26

      @@G0DofRock Yup probably even 50 years after climate change kicked in (say 2050) and after a global nuclear war, earth may be more habitable.

    • @fisharepeopletoo9653
      @fisharepeopletoo9653 3 роки тому +82

      @@G0DofRock I think you've missed the point of the Mars trip a bit. Elon has said multiple times why he thinks it's important to get off Earth, and never once was it, "Our planet is fucked, lol." I'm not his biggest fan either, but the idea that we should get off Earth is based on the idea of ANY apocalyptic event, which is statistically inevitable to happen at some point. If we have people living off of planet Earth, and it's wiped out by a disease, or by an asteroid, or yes even catastrophic backlash from climate change, the human species would survive. That's his whole idea, and to reduce it down to him saying we should abandon Earth is just quite simply a strawman, and no argument that Elon has voiced.

  • @O1OO1O1
    @O1OO1O1 Рік тому +21

    Careful, Elon may ban you on Twitter for criticising him here 2 years ago

    • @ssb9054
      @ssb9054 8 місяців тому

      That happens in socialist countries, if you outshine or criticize the local party member, you will be taken out.

  • @justicebeske5704
    @justicebeske5704 2 роки тому +87

    Thank you, I'm so glad people are finally starting to see threw his fake image he puts on. I am so tired of people making excuses for him and treating him like iron man

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 2 роки тому +5

      He is an (cast) iron man.
      Brittle, cold and (in between) a bit heavy.

    • @sutapasbhattacharya9471
      @sutapasbhattacharya9471 2 роки тому +2

      through [not threw - which is past tense for throw]

    • @williamgurney4226
      @williamgurney4226 Рік тому

      @@sutapasbhattacharya9471 Caused me pain too 😂

  • @nonemongo
    @nonemongo 2 роки тому +858

    I really hope musk's mars colony will become a thing. Imagine the horror in people's eyes when they arrive at mars and find they've joined a dictatorship lol

    • @pbxn-3rdx-85percent
      @pbxn-3rdx-85percent 2 роки тому +173

      The dictatorship will just be a minor thing. They'll be running out of food and cannibalism will be a necessity on Mars. Let's give Musk's fanboys a nice farewell. 😂😄

    • @leo.nordmann
      @leo.nordmann 2 роки тому +63

      This really reminds me of the show "Snowpiercer".

    • @RealHardR
      @RealHardR 2 роки тому +28

      @@leo.nordmann hell yeah good movie

    • @murdelabop
      @murdelabop 2 роки тому +67

      Most of them will be Musk fanbois. They'll think living in a city-state ruled by Elon is just great. At least at first.

    • @jamesboulger8705
      @jamesboulger8705 2 роки тому

      @@leo.nordmann More like Total Recall. In the film, it is clear the government of Mars is a corporate one, with totalitarian control over the population.

  • @TheLinkinc
    @TheLinkinc 3 роки тому +697

    Tom, escaping the effects of the climate crisis to Mars is like avoiding drowning in a puddle by jumping into the ocean...

    • @mizutofu
      @mizutofu 3 роки тому +7

      the real climate crisis will only be caused by the eruption of a supervolcano

    • @kedrednael
      @kedrednael 3 роки тому +1

      @@mizutofu Or nuclear war

    • @nuuuuuut
      @nuuuuuut 3 роки тому +137

      @@mizutofu We're already in a "real climate crisis"...

    • @mizutofu
      @mizutofu 3 роки тому

      @@nuuuuuut so why is no one preparing for supervolcano?

    • @nuuuuuut
      @nuuuuuut 3 роки тому +67

      @@mizutofu There's really no way to prepare for that or predict it.

  • @keremmorgul367
    @keremmorgul367 Рік тому +14

    Can’t believe I can watch such high quality content on UA-cam. Thanks a lot to everyone involved in the production.

  • @slunderchuster4273
    @slunderchuster4273 Рік тому +8

    In terms of character, he is just a male version of Elizabeth Holmes. More people oughta realize that

  • @Dan-ud8hz
    @Dan-ud8hz 3 роки тому +1700

    "In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face."
    Diogenes

    • @transvestosaurus878
      @transvestosaurus878 3 роки тому +32

      2400 year old 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @planets9102
      @planets9102 3 роки тому +18

      @Jeff Jeff A man of culture I see.

    • @user-pq9gy3fq1q
      @user-pq9gy3fq1q 3 роки тому +24

      I really don't get Diogenes, sure, he was a homeless savage that spits philosophy in to the rich, but he's also a homeless savage that spits philosophy into the rich and basically anyone else.

    • @Invizive
      @Invizive 3 роки тому +21

      Diogenes was talking about people who lived worse than modern average low class. He was against any posessions and favoured "canine" way of living that meant total ridicule of any comfort in life - in some ways he was more egoistic than people he criticized.

    • @appleslover
      @appleslover 3 роки тому +6

      @@Just_Pele can I ask you something, what is the west ? What are the boundaries of the "west" ?
      Which countries are "western" ?
      I ask because the term is being used and misused to the point it lost it's meaning just like how "first world" changed from a political noun to a financial/social adjective

  • @DesignerDave
    @DesignerDave 3 роки тому +411

    I'm so glad Ramsay Bolton was able to rehabilitate his image on UA-cam.

    • @gwencere9383
      @gwencere9383 3 роки тому +2

      That's so mean trdftgkuhikikh

    • @DesignerDave
      @DesignerDave 3 роки тому +3

      @@gwencere9383 I meant it in the nicest way possible. ;)
      And I enjoyed the video.

    • @gwencere9383
      @gwencere9383 3 роки тому

      @@DesignerDave I know lol, my comment was a joke :)

    • @altobonifacio8936
      @altobonifacio8936 3 роки тому

      @@gwencere9383 it was a nice joke not so offensive

    • @gwencere9383
      @gwencere9383 3 роки тому

      @@altobonifacio8936 dude I know I was also joking

  • @akuakkk1908
    @akuakkk1908 2 роки тому +8

    I love this channel. No dunking for the sake of feeling superior but rather just present arguments.

  • @alexandersimpson3638
    @alexandersimpson3638 2 роки тому +41

    A modern day living breathing sound bite devoid of any substance, a plagiarist, snake oil salesman..He’s woke but isn’t, he’s a capitalist but claims not to be.. He promises everything but constantly disappoints, breaks deadlines and simply strides onward with an equally loyal fan base…

  • @worker-wf2em
    @worker-wf2em 2 роки тому +110

    I think it could also be a lot simpler in that Musk continually makes these grandiose promises to keep his stock value in a perpetual state of over-inflation

  • @felipebs01
    @felipebs01 3 роки тому +681

    Came to see a video about Elon Musk and got a masterclass in politics and economy. We don't see great content like this everyday. With youtube filled with misguided and fake information this is precious!

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +47

      Thanks Felipe, glad you liked it!

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому +1

      @@Tom_Nicholas Musk is a divine being incarnating in a man.
      You, a cockroach fart.

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому

      @@Tom_Nicholas
      Hes half joking.
      Marx wasnt telling intellectually honest human intelligence about genetics being the culprit.
      Its funny because Ashkenazi play by the same plumage. IQ is easy to select for unlike unpredictable capabilities: the frontal lobe, which our hebrew pals definitely gave up some brains.
      The future is ethical stabilization of the genome exception being the liabilities, like a national park might. Musk is literally just on a level you completely underestimate because you take his words at face value. But integrity is irrelevant, its viewership that counts right?

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому

      @@Tom_Nicholas
      ua-cam.com/video/hIiu0NWuCoU/v-deo.html
      @ 07:32
      What would be the point of Communism if we made the instinct for deception for political social gain extinct with genetic engineering?
      If we are lightyears across space as a civilization, how do we preserve being human? Random mutation does not stop unless you act. You might as well be seeding the galaxy with alien competitors across cosmic timescales.
      Musk literally cant hold people's hand because they are legitimately too stupid to understand, so he trolls. Your content is garbage.

    • @remasteredretropcgames3312
      @remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому

      @@Tom_Nicholas
      Lets see you pull a jordan peterson and remove the comments even if they have achieved thousands of likes by the time i have something eye catching to say.

  • @diegoandres2499
    @diegoandres2499 Рік тому +6

    this aged like wine

  • @fredrik3685
    @fredrik3685 Рік тому +11

    I think every "invention ' by Elon could already be found in futuristic comic books.

  • @synthiandrakon
    @synthiandrakon 3 роки тому +215

    I think what demonstrates most clearly that musk isn't doing what he does because he cares about the environment was Tesla's repeated refusal to adopt a universal charging port for their cars. Or how there is basically no way to get a Tesla fixed without going directly to the company. It feels like they just really want some form of monopoly

    • @donflamingo795
      @donflamingo795 3 роки тому +43

      Basically Apple

    • @goldendemise3165
      @goldendemise3165 2 роки тому +1

      Oh so how many mechanics shop can properly fixed an electric car..... Please tell me, and if something goes wrong on the road Tesla will get blasted by the media.

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 2 роки тому +16

      Yep, pretty much Tesla hates the "right to repair" and they are trying very hard to lobby with lawmakers to ensure that no one can modify, or repair a car except for the company themselves

    • @pranavpatil1362
      @pranavpatil1362 2 роки тому +8

      he can't, he doesn't have proper knowledge about manufacturing, car gaints such as BMW, mercedes and many more are rolling out their EVs and they know how to sell them unlike musk.

    • @synthiandrakon
      @synthiandrakon 2 роки тому +27

      @@goldendemise3165 electric cars are relatively simple machines in fact they are less complicated than gas powered cars, it's not impossible for shops figure out how do fix them

  • @FatManJackson
    @FatManJackson 3 роки тому +788

    For someone who claims or wants to appear as to represent TESLA with his company, he idolizes EDISON too much. This should already make you think about the person he really is.

    • @loneranger4282
      @loneranger4282 3 роки тому +6

      lmfao

    • @user-gd4ty2nq3u
      @user-gd4ty2nq3u 3 роки тому +6

      elaborate what you believe he is by idolizing edison

    • @FatManJackson
      @FatManJackson 3 роки тому +151

      @@user-gd4ty2nq3u someone who loves attention and approval. Someone who values marketing more than innovating. Someone who likes money more than helping humanity.

    • @N1tr063nFr05trhym3
      @N1tr063nFr05trhym3 3 роки тому +2

      Tesla freak vibes

    • @FatManJackson
      @FatManJackson 3 роки тому +100

      @@N1tr063nFr05trhym3 Tesla freak? No, I am just someone who admires REAL innovators, not people who pose as such. Who knows if Musk really knows ANYTHING about what his company is doing? He could even just be studying a script and then presenting it to us. I am not saying this is true, but he definitely cares more about the way he presents himself to the world than a true, unmentioned scientist.

  • @Antagon666
    @Antagon666 3 місяці тому +3

    I admire how Musk built Hyperloop all over the world and went to Mars in 2022.

  • @ireallygotnothing
    @ireallygotnothing Рік тому +3

    All i ever cared about when it came to musk was spacex. Finally, i thought, we can return to space and begin the long arduous process of building shit on the moon.
    And then the man said he's aiming for mars without going for the moon first like an actual madman.

  • @ailblentyn
    @ailblentyn 3 роки тому +389

    On the idea of the future... As a member of GenX, I would say that growing up in the Cold War involved a lot of dread of the future. We were told by adults again and again that we were all going to die in WW3.

    • @alpha6549
      @alpha6549 3 роки тому +31

      I think it’s necessary to have an optimistic view on the future otherwise it will be no force to drive you forward
      But making it some spiritualistic belief in the future is too much.

    • @breatheasy2693
      @breatheasy2693 3 роки тому

      That's just you

    • @jacobgarcia7617
      @jacobgarcia7617 3 роки тому +15

      I mean we still could.

    • @Jules_73
      @Jules_73 3 роки тому +4

      ​@Jo As a gen Xer the discussion in school was about the next ice age and how it would devastate modern life. Same issue with a different name

    • @Ireallywouldrathernot
      @Ireallywouldrathernot 3 роки тому +13

      I mean sure, it *might* not be WWIII. At this point there's such a variety of ways we could kill ourselves, chances are we'll all die of some fascinating mixture of them.

  • @mohebbi71
    @mohebbi71 3 роки тому +514

    I’m a little bummed you didn’t call it Musk-ular Futurism

    • @korawega6293
      @korawega6293 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah it was right there man

    • @Groovebot3k
      @Groovebot3k 3 роки тому +20

      Musk-ular Futurism is actually perfect as a satirical dig, in my opinion, because for all the talk of Musk as being RL Tony Stark I've always thought of him as RL Lex Luthor.

    • @Pencil0fDoom
      @Pencil0fDoom 3 роки тому +1

      arash mohebbi or Muskular Distophy.

    • @Pencil0fDoom
      @Pencil0fDoom 3 роки тому +6

      Groovebot 3000 when he let slip about the cut-to-the-chase Martian terraforming strategy of NUKING THE POLES on the red planet, I recall someone nervously kidding that he might actually be a Super-Villain. Made a lot of sense, really.

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 3 роки тому +1

      @@Pencil0fDoom How does that make you a super villain? Is not like anyone lives on Mars.

  • @MikiCab1
    @MikiCab1 Рік тому +3

    This video has aged well

  • @anthonyrobertson2011
    @anthonyrobertson2011 Рік тому +9

    I realized not to pay attention to Musk when he kept making so many claims his company would do X in a few months or in a couple of years. These time windows kept passing and no news about his new breakthroughs. I realized at the very least, add 5 or 10, even 30 years sometimes, to his claim they would have said new technology. He made a huge claim on Joe Rogan that something ground breaking would be announced within six month. So impressing Joe that he mentioned it on a few other shows the next few months. That was three/four years ago and nothing was ever announced.

    • @illbeV
      @illbeV Рік тому

      Well, a product of his did literally break the ground: Starship

  • @mishat5405
    @mishat5405 3 роки тому +435

    As a biology student, the idea that we could terraform Mars if we can’t fix Earth just makes my blood boil

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +114

      Haha, to be fair, I have this thing where, when I get a certain way through a project, I get really frustrated with it and want to just move on to the next thing. This is basically the same but with planets...

    • @lijenamacka
      @lijenamacka 3 роки тому +2

      @@Tom_Nicholas haha :)

    • @Scofield229
      @Scofield229 3 роки тому +41

      As a Medical student, the fact that Elon is using Tesla(motors and sustainable energy) to move the population away the burning of fossil fuels and filling the atmosphere with CO2, makes me smile.

    • @chairmanofrussia
      @chairmanofrussia 3 роки тому +52

      Scofield229 well, I’d have to see more tesla models that are as affordable as other electric alternatives, like the volt, and I’d like to see the emissions of the manufacturing process (from the mining of the materials to the rolling off of the factory floor), before I can truly smile, but I’m inclined to agree.

    • @akira28shima32
      @akira28shima32 3 роки тому +13

      Yeah, good one. Your blood boil because people dare to dream or think differently from your perception of truth!!??People only recently accepted microbes cause disease!!

  • @nottsoserious
    @nottsoserious 2 роки тому +569

    "Marx was a capitalist"
    Elon, you smoked too much weed lmao

    • @thelostguitar5196
      @thelostguitar5196 2 роки тому +62

      Elon knows it is cool to say shocking and glib things on the internet, whether they're true, maybe true, not true... Hell, it's just fun. So why not? Say Marx was a capitalist and watch people react. Another morning in Elon's life. To me, he seems like a pretty weird dude. God bless. But weird as all hell.

    • @goutamboppana961
      @goutamboppana961 2 роки тому

      XD

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 2 роки тому +14

      ​@@thelostguitar5196 It's even worse...because if confronted about it Musk would say something like "Haven't you heard of State Capitalism" like if that was the intent of his previous comment....I might be giving him too much credit.
      Also, that is not weirdness, that's a pathology.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 роки тому +8

      Marx died poor, after being kept alive by donations most of his life. He was a shit capitalist if he was one. But in a way, Marx's version of communism actually *requires* capitalism to exist elsewhere in the world, to determine the ever-changing values of goods.

    • @aicy5170
      @aicy5170 2 роки тому +27

      @@nobodynoone2500 ... communist here (Vietnamese) and you are so so wrong lmao

  • @hanzhu8389
    @hanzhu8389 Рік тому +8

    Imagine all the masses fleeing to Mars with Mr. Musk to escape WW3 or the zombie apocalypse or space alien invasion just to perish immediately the moment they land due to a Martian disease.

  • @squireson
    @squireson 7 місяців тому +1

    Henry Ford's contribution was in applying mass manufacturing concepts to a much more complex machine than they had been applied to previously. There was a significant amount of work put into rearranging peoples efforts in a way that we take for granted today. Ford was deeply involve in managing this process and updating it. Musk has bragged about not 'really being into' running his companies.
    The Teslas were stylistically cool before Musk invested in Tesla and kicked out it's founder.

  • @bigsmoke9228
    @bigsmoke9228 3 роки тому +864

    We can coup whoever we want
    -Elon Musk

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +218

      Oh god, I had to do a bit of a dive into his Twitter feed for this and it really is something, isn't it?

    • @bigsmoke9228
      @bigsmoke9228 3 роки тому +149

      @@Tom_Nicholas yeah, it's something alright. Something I'd expect to hear from some movie villain or a cartoon caricature of an evil businessman or something.

    • @jonc67uk
      @jonc67uk 3 роки тому +80

      Elon gets his ultra right 'christian' government, Morales gets the boot & the people get to die in the streets from lack of response & medical care from the new government. What an asshole. Just for fucking batteries they could have paid for.

    • @perryholmes4602
      @perryholmes4602 3 роки тому +53

      I’m a fan of Musk and I can tell you he is very sarcastic. Tesla gets its lithium from Australia. Many people who dislike him (take your pick for the reason why) spread misinformation constantly about him. Imagine getting accused of conducting a coup in a foreign country what would your reaction be? I’d be annoyed too personally. People just don’t tell the truth about things anymore or they don’t even look for the truth themselves and unfortunately it’s getting worse.

    • @bigsmoke9228
      @bigsmoke9228 3 роки тому +141

      @@perryholmes4602 right. Guys still a total ghoul no matter how much wholesome big chungus 100 reddit karma shite he says. Just ask the workers that tried to unionize and his covid19 denial so he could get his stock options during said quarter. And if I were him I'd vehemently deny said allegations instead of saying something sarcastic. I mean sorry even if it's not true its garbage PR and optics at least.

  • @myreply1714
    @myreply1714 2 роки тому +173

    Well, Elon Musk isn't the first to have the idea of underground roads. Underground roads were planned even by H!tler in his "Germania project".

    • @jamesboulger8705
      @jamesboulger8705 2 роки тому +20

      Is Musk's next project to deflood the Mediterranean?

    • @davitdavid7165
      @davitdavid7165 2 роки тому

      Did you also see his visions of the reichstag? Dude was not cool, but his meth filled head had ideas....

    • @comdrive3865
      @comdrive3865 2 роки тому +3

      hail capitalism

    • @matsab7930
      @matsab7930 2 роки тому +1

      Interesting historical tidbit but not exactly relevant. Hitler was a big proponent of investing in infrastructure in general; that doesn't mean investing in infrastructure brings you in any way in line with Hitler.

    • @myreply1714
      @myreply1714 2 роки тому +1

      @@matsab7930 I didn't intent to be relevant. I just wanted to make a little pun.

  • @lyrajaded
    @lyrajaded 9 місяців тому +3

    After the 3 years of Musk’s persistent lack of quality of his products, garbage handling of twitter, and the possibility that his hyper loop was purely pitched to take money away from public transportation, this video hits different.

  • @federicoleoncini
    @federicoleoncini 2 роки тому +4

    Aged like a fine wine

  • @DnCtopher
    @DnCtopher 2 роки тому +74

    Muskian Futurism means to prefix existing tech with the word “hyper”, slap on a massive touch screen, and RGB lights. Lots of RGB lights

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 2 роки тому

      Still better than the design for any hardware for gamers.

    • @xlChronos
      @xlChronos 2 роки тому +5

      @@Carewolf ironically the RGB trend in gaming is slowly declining.
      Gamers nowadays usually go for more simplistic looks

    • @BlazingKhioneus
      @BlazingKhioneus 2 роки тому

      Dont forget deconstructing economy of scale by breaking down everything into pods purely for the aesthetic of futurism despite having everything broken down to individuals murders the supposed futuristic efficiency

  • @giuliam7737
    @giuliam7737 3 роки тому +500

    The moment thatcher appeared on the screen my computer shut down and dude same

    • @dystopiaahoy
      @dystopiaahoy 3 роки тому +25

      She used ideology the way other women use a strap-on.

    • @arkavi
      @arkavi 3 роки тому +33

      Do you think Margaret Thatcher has girl power?

    • @RogerBarraud
      @RogerBarraud 3 роки тому +10

      She makes my digestive system shut down... sometimes even reverse... or accelerate wildly.
      YMMV :-/

    • @osmundkettleback5815
      @osmundkettleback5815 3 роки тому +39

      @@arkavi Do you think she effectively utilized girl power in funnelling money to illegal paramilitary death squads in Northern Ireland?

    • @arkavi
      @arkavi 3 роки тому +8

      @@osmundkettleback5815 I don't know about that!

  • @BlazingKhioneus
    @BlazingKhioneus 2 роки тому +5

    The way you describe the tale of 2 cars makes me think of how the original gameboy became an uproarious success simply by being cheap and sustainable compared to all other gaming handhelds at the time. Sure, the sega gamegear had color screen and a backlight while the gameboy had an unlit, monochrome screen, but it was cheaper upfront due to this cheaper construction and it only ate 4 AAs in 4 hours of playtime as opposed to the gamegear gobbling up 6 AAs in probably half an hour. Nintendo didnt do anything revolutionary on the face of what they did, but when you place it next to the competition, it was revolutionary.

  • @artificercreator
    @artificercreator Рік тому +3

    Woa! The chapter: The slow cancellation of the future is Amazingly well researched, thank you so much!

  • @SidGaming10
    @SidGaming10 3 роки тому +174

    Here's two bits on Elon Musk. If he says, I will deliver a product in 2 years, the actual timeline is 5 to 7 years.

    • @CrossoverManiac
      @CrossoverManiac 3 роки тому +29

      At least Elon delivers. How many decades has NASA promised to take the whole of humanity to the stars and still NASA's astronaut core is an exclusive club for the chosen few. Once Starship is flying, Elon will take more people into space in a decade than NASA did in six decades.

    • @SidGaming10
      @SidGaming10 3 роки тому +5

      @@CrossoverManiac it is true, I am simply stating a fact.

    • @adanactnomew7085
      @adanactnomew7085 3 роки тому +45

      @@CrossoverManiac Still waiting on hyperloop lmao.

    • @blazegeorge6688
      @blazegeorge6688 3 роки тому

      @@adanactnomew7085 Musk haven't promised he will deliver a hyperloop system. He just gave the idea.

    • @akshaydevmurari8191
      @akshaydevmurari8191 2 роки тому +25

      @@blazegeorge6688 idea of hyoerloop existed before musk

  • @durnel2001
    @durnel2001 3 роки тому +1791

    A true modern day Thomas Edison.

    • @fds7476
      @fds7476 3 роки тому +140

      In every conceivable way.

    • @kerrybuns5892
      @kerrybuns5892 2 роки тому +138

      He said that’s his idol

    • @GatileoGatilei
      @GatileoGatilei 2 роки тому +40

      @@kerrybuns5892 lol

    • @marilynlucas5128
      @marilynlucas5128 2 роки тому +153

      He stole from Tesla again! This time he Jacked his name and made everyone associate him to a true Genius.

    • @viieswkit
      @viieswkit 2 роки тому +45

      Where's our Nikola Tesla?

  • @AJHadley
    @AJHadley Рік тому +3

    I'm getting more and more convinced that Musk read Atlas Shrugged as a teenager and decided he wanted to become John Galt.

  • @rustyshackleford735
    @rustyshackleford735 2 роки тому +4

    This video illustrates why solarpunk is useful as a means of art, media and aspiration.

  • @TheManWithTheFlan
    @TheManWithTheFlan 3 роки тому +513

    WRT Elon Musk being mentioned in Star Trek: Discovery, and this is a SPOILER,
    Captain Lorca, the character referring to Musk as a pioneer is from an evil mirror universe ruled by a fascist human supremacist space empire. So honestly I take it as a huge hint at where he turns out to be from.

    • @_zurr
      @_zurr 3 роки тому +51

      That is amazing and hilarious!

    • @dalathar
      @dalathar 3 роки тому +29

      besides utopian future was depicted in star trek TNG, but dicovery?... sorry but i ll remain in TNG universe all day long

    • @dystopiaahoy
      @dystopiaahoy 3 роки тому

      They added that as a nice twist, but the 'good' Elon would also have existed in 'our' universe. Only the evil ones bothered mentioning him though...lol. Elon was in at least one episode of Star Trek as a tech.

    • @ARGHouse504
      @ARGHouse504 3 роки тому +8

      Elon Reeves Musk, Terran Emperor of the early 21st century.

    • @mireillecopin6183
      @mireillecopin6183 3 роки тому +5

      Reminds me of when I watched Venom, I joked that Life Foundation could be compared to Space X.
      Plus I've always thought that if you just put Musk as a character in a movie, there's no way he would be anything else than the villain.

  • @wordsofdv
    @wordsofdv 2 роки тому +280

    23:37 "[Musk] evidently has a deep understanding of Marx's work"
    That was so subtle and so sharp. It killed me. I'm typing this comment from the morgue. Just too good.

    • @luisfelipebayardomelgoza4104
      @luisfelipebayardomelgoza4104 2 роки тому +8

      I'm a bit ignorant, do you mind explaining?, I did notice what he said, but couldn't really comprehend what he meant.

    • @wordsofdv
      @wordsofdv 2 роки тому +49

      @@luisfelipebayardomelgoza4104 Pure sarcasm. "Evidently" is the keyword here. The evidence says Musk has no idea what he's talking about.

    • @luisfelipebayardomelgoza4104
      @luisfelipebayardomelgoza4104 2 роки тому +12

      @@wordsofdv Thanks a lot.

    • @wordsofdv
      @wordsofdv 2 роки тому +7

      @@luisfelipebayardomelgoza4104 You're most welcome!

    • @wordsofdv
      @wordsofdv 2 роки тому +25

      @@rrrk-gm1tr it's a joke by Tom.
      Elon has never expressed any understanding of Marx except that weird line about "he was a capitalist because he wrote a book (Capital) about it."

  • @LorettaBangBang
    @LorettaBangBang Рік тому +2

    "Move fast and break things"
    "... What for?"
    "Doesn't matter"

    • @congratulationsmerry6386
      @congratulationsmerry6386 Рік тому

      What for? Money and attention to subdtitute the attention his father never gave to him

  • @southstar9931
    @southstar9931 Рік тому +1

    One of the first people to call out elons BS. Well done sir

  • @TalpaTulpa
    @TalpaTulpa Рік тому +12

    This aged very well

  • @stewartcohen-jones2949
    @stewartcohen-jones2949 2 роки тому +186

    He’s a self mythologist. Very aware of the clickbait soundbite and how fast the virus of his verbatim spreads. As long as Tesla is a 6 thoughts of separation away in your mind , all is well .

    • @adamsawyer1763
      @adamsawyer1763 2 роки тому +1

      Meanwhile on planet earth we're up a metric fuckton of $$$$ on our TSLA holdings, but you go on enjoying distancing yourself from the company 😂🤣

    • @stewartcohen-jones2949
      @stewartcohen-jones2949 2 роки тому +2

      The only way to escape Elon is go and live on Mars……Oh hold on a minute……. Rats , there’s no escape.

    • @adamsawyer1763
      @adamsawyer1763 2 роки тому +1

      @@stewartcohen-jones2949 it's alright, Elon wants to die on Mars, all you have to do is wait and he'll leave.

    • @leonavis
      @leonavis 2 роки тому +5

      @@adamsawyer1763 The US is so heavily in debt that it's just a matter of time until the Dollar crashes.
      What that'll mean one can only guess. We live in a time where there's so much money in circulation that a virtual concept of a coin is worth over $50k, because people have so much money that they start spending it on nothing at all. Especially the US-American stock-market is completely detached from what those companies are actually worth compared internationally. The US-$ is only still kinda stable because it's the most traded currency in the world; but even that doesn't compensate for the gruesome decisions made in the US over the last few decades.
      Enjoy your $$$$.

    • @JABelms
      @JABelms 2 роки тому

      @@adamsawyer1763 Your TSLA holdings are not the only investments bro. My NVDA stocks will 100% smash yours because I've been investing since the 2000s, you only invest when Musk rats tell you to lol

  • @aalex100
    @aalex100 3 роки тому +281

    The thing is, futurism began as a progressive aesthetic and later became political by affiliating with revolutionary movements. Nowadays it's once again depoliticized and reduced to mere aesthetics, because none of these 'futuristic projects' are about overcoming the social and economic problems we're facing today, and *the future* isn't just having weird-looking electrocars, you know.
    As for Corbyn and AOC/Sanders, it's really weird to see how very basic center-left politics are nowadays perceived as a radical thought after years of neoliberal stagnation and I'm having mixed feelings about it. Of course, it's a preferred alternative to the rising far-right, but like every other social democracy it just doesn't have any real futuristic programme, it all just comes to making the existing stuff more egalitarian.

    • @SpoopySquid
      @SpoopySquid 3 роки тому +60

      Reminds me how cyberpunk started out as a scathing critique of capitalism but has since been coopted and is now mostly just "cool cyber-arms and neon"

    • @Tom_Nicholas
      @Tom_Nicholas  3 роки тому +56

      Futurism actually became affiliated with Italian Fascism so it wasn't that great in its political aspect... You're right though, I think, in your suggestion that the future has become aestheticised. This is also something that Mark Fisher talks about in his book Ghosts of My Life. He discusses the way in which, in the 20th century, a "futuristic sound" meant a kind of music that you hadn't heard before but, by the 21st, a "futuristic sound" simply meant a specific kind of "spacey" sound (he describes it as having become like a font).

    • @bigbootyhoochy
      @bigbootyhoochy 3 роки тому

      watch brown girl begins

    • @aalex100
      @aalex100 3 роки тому +10

      ​@@Tom_Nicholas Well, I was thinking about Russian futurism primarily, but it may just be a very different tradition. As for Italy, the political theory of the time was... messed up as early fascism was posing as 'alternative' revolution. I haven't done any significant research on this topic, but I just came across this Manifesto of Futurist Political Party and it's written in a spirit of 'socialism corrupted by nationalism'. Of course, the party soon became a part of fascist one and we all know where it went.
      it.wikisource.org/wiki/Manifesto_del_Partito_Politico_Futurista_Italiano

    • @firstlast-sm6hx
      @firstlast-sm6hx 3 роки тому +5

      @@Tom_Nicholas Right, if you read the writings of Mussolini he specifically positions Fascism as a revolutionary and futuristic movement. Futurism can largely be seen as a worship of the machine, and man's duty to serve that end - philosophically fascism fits right in there.

  • @frankfilippelli
    @frankfilippelli 2 роки тому +3

    This video was incredible. Well done!