Inspiring Philosophy DEBUNKS the Worst Bible CONSPIRACIES

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  • @RuslanKD
    @RuslanKD  3 місяці тому +19

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  • @KingdomAlignment
    @KingdomAlignment 3 місяці тому +129

    I love that he’s trying to bring together believers and not rip each other apart. That’s such a big deal.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 2 місяці тому +2

      The concern is that he's too willing to adapt the Bible to modern cultural and scientific positions in order to do so.

    • @nuanceatnoon
      @nuanceatnoon Місяць тому

      @@christophertaylor9100it’s not a problem if it doesn’t contradict. Which it doesn’t. Look into his positions.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 Місяць тому +1

      @@nuanceatnoon It is a problem if he wants to change the Bible and interpret it simply to fit modern ideas.

    • @KOAHUNT3R
      @KOAHUNT3R 12 днів тому

      @christophertaylor9100 But IP isn't changing the Bible or interpreting it to fit modern ideas. Most of IP's views come from studying the scripture, studying the original language, studying the culture, and coming to the conclusion of how that culture during that time would have interpreted the text and its meaning. He actually performs excellent exegesis and hermeneutics, which is how we should be viewing our scriptures.

    • @christophertaylor9100
      @christophertaylor9100 12 днів тому +1

      @@KOAHUNT3R Yeah he is, when it comes to areas that modern people are unhappy with like the ages of ancient figures, or the numbers of Israelites listed in the Bible. He allegorizes them and claims they are symbolic in order to fit better with modern cultural ideas instead of you know, taking what the Bible says as its said.

  • @CoachNoahDavid
    @CoachNoahDavid 3 місяці тому +131

    12:28: “I’m not doubting scripture, I’m doubting your interpretation of scripture. You’re not a prophet.” BROTHER SAY THAT!!!! Too many new believers wanna share their “revelations” they’ve “received from the Lord” but don’t support it with scripture nor are they being discipled. Too many new believers idolize the spiritual gifts but know nothing about them because these modern churches have abandoned Jesus and have become motivational and charismatic clubs, not houses of prayer. Brothers and sisters, remove yourself from these deceptions please.

    • @Kenz_Livvv
      @Kenz_Livvv 3 місяці тому +8

      👏👏👏👏

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy 3 місяці тому +5

      Charismatic problems... 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🙄

    • @CoachNoahDavid
      @CoachNoahDavid 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MeanBeanComedy that part 💯

    • @user-followyeshua
      @user-followyeshua 3 місяці тому +3

      I agree

    • @basedsigmalifter9482
      @basedsigmalifter9482 3 місяці тому +2

      @@CoachNoahDavid This is why sola scriptura is impossible. There is no standard of interpretation.

  • @TruthSeeker_7
    @TruthSeeker_7 3 місяці тому +236

    So happy someone is doing this. Ip is perfect to respond. Can't believe this guy is going around the internet's biggest pods essentially unchallenged.

    • @GabGames-1
      @GabGames-1 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, finally someone is going to do this 🫡🔥 Been waiting for a while now .-.

    • @axiom6000
      @axiom6000 3 місяці тому +7

      Because he can’t be challenged, IP thinks about everything he does in a very particular way which makes it so that it’s very hard to debunk his views.

    • @Thebravemovement
      @Thebravemovement 3 місяці тому +9

      This guy wouldn’t last very long with Dr Jason Lisle… who is a PHD in astrophysics and can actually explain why the earth couldn’t possibly be that old and the Bible is always correct way before modern “$cience” makes a claim.

    • @axiom6000
      @axiom6000 3 місяці тому +24

      @@Thebravemovement Ah, yes, one Astrophysicist vs the vast majority of astrophysicists who disagree.

    • @Thebravemovement
      @Thebravemovement 3 місяці тому

      @@axiom6000 they are secular atheists… of course they disagree… the religion of secular atheism aka humanism.
      Also, the majority has always been wrong all throughout history. Using “everyone believes it” as “proof it must be true” is a terrible place to argue from. We just went through two of the most outrageously idiotic years of human history because “the majority” agreed that a flu was killing everyone…

  • @jonytwobyfour4
    @jonytwobyfour4 3 місяці тому +43

    Dope interview. Love when you two connect. All for the glory of God 💪🏾

  • @CoachNoahDavid
    @CoachNoahDavid 3 місяці тому +47

    “If it’s bringing you glory, I’m immediately questioning it because this is about the glory of God. It’s not about us.” AMEN BROTHER!! AMEN AMEN AMEN!!

  • @greyknight627
    @greyknight627 3 місяці тому +52

    To be fair to Mike Winger, he’s been very open for years that the apocalyptic views (pre/post Millennialism, etc.) is not his focus, nor has he delved super deep into it and is open to being convinced of other views here.

    • @Lucas-zu2es
      @Lucas-zu2es 3 місяці тому +4

      plus he said he will do a deep dive in the next 2 years i think

    • @StandOnTruth2010
      @StandOnTruth2010 3 місяці тому +7

      His video that surveyed 5 different end time views was very well laid out and easy to understand though. Based on that video, I can't wait until he does spent more of a focus on end times.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 3 місяці тому +1

      Winger saying it's not his focus is another way of saying he is clueless about the biblical position. Ppl who don't understand what the Bible teaches always of have some pseudo-Christian way of avoiding to admit that they are simply clueless. How can he call himself a pastor and not already know what God's position is? He's supposed to know these things!

    • @Skylerrelyks93
      @Skylerrelyks93 3 місяці тому +8

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779is this based on scripture or are you speaking from your own mind?

    • @TacoTuesday4
      @TacoTuesday4 2 місяці тому +2

      We should all have this stance with more interpretations of the Bible. Approach with humility that we are from a vastly different time and culture than when the Bible was written. We should allow more grace to others with different views that don’t matter. Views on age of the earth, when the exodus happened, how we baptize and views on end times. None of those things are part of the gospel.

  • @nsnowman
    @nsnowman 3 місяці тому +18

    By the way, you can be an Old Earth Creationist and not believe in BIG E evolution (i.e. molecules to man, slime to mammals, etc. but still believe in small e evolution i.e. adaptation and diversification within kinds), and also believe in a literally true Bible. I tend to most closely align with the Reasons to Believe creation model.

    • @nadaproblem3023
      @nadaproblem3023 3 місяці тому +1

      Sad. Adaptation is evolution.

    • @nsnowman
      @nsnowman 3 місяці тому +8

      @@nadaproblem3023 I'm not sure what is sad exactly. Yes, adaptation is one component of biological evolution. Evolution means change over time, by the way, everything changes over time, aka everything evolves. Adaptation can be observed in real time, in the past via the fossil record. However, the fossil record is woefully inadequate to explain things like the Cambrian (and other) explosion where dozens of new phyla appear in an geological instant. And the origin of life - aka abiogenesis has never been documented and there isn't even a plausible theory of how it happened. Origin of life researchers are completely stumped. So, yes, God created life with the ability to adapt to it's environment and he created species in kinds, just like the Bible says, this matches what we observe. It actually makes me happy, but if you want to be sad, more power to you!

    • @Viewer-w4w
      @Viewer-w4w 2 місяці тому +7

      @@nadaproblem3023 It’s sad that the word evolution has to be defined every single time it’s used. Adaptation does Not prove that every living thing is the product of mutations from a single cell organism.

    • @Orthosaur7532
      @Orthosaur7532 2 місяці тому +1

      And yet there is a progression in the fossil record...
      Ever found birds in the Permian, Gorillas in the Carboniferous, Velociraptors in the Devonian, and even human remains during the Cambrian period? It would seem that would happen if all species co-existed at the same time, not even mentioning the rates of radioactive decay.

  • @demo5963
    @demo5963 3 місяці тому +56

    THANK YOU HOLY GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST FOR MICHAEL JONES THE GUY IVE BEEN SCREAMING TO EVERY BROTHER TO FOLLOW IF THEY DONT WANT TO IGNORANTLY LEAVE THE FAITH BECAUSE A GUY DECLARED HIMSELF QUOTE ON QUOTE RELIABLE IN THE AREA THEY CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING IN.

    • @RuslanKD
      @RuslanKD  3 місяці тому +54

      Please turn off the caps

    • @paulspicer4481
      @paulspicer4481 3 місяці тому +20

      😂😂​@@RuslanKDcold with it

    • @lukebehrens2050
      @lukebehrens2050 3 місяці тому +30

      @@RuslanKDman’s said use your inside voice💀

    • @scratchdatoff4abog
      @scratchdatoff4abog 3 місяці тому +1

      @@RuslanKDNO

    • @glennjohn3919
      @glennjohn3919 3 місяці тому

      @@RuslanKD Please turn off the grammar policing.

  • @isaiah107
    @isaiah107 3 місяці тому +35

    It feels so weird seeing IP body, I thought he was only a floating upper torso

  • @joejohnson8656
    @joejohnson8656 3 місяці тому +14

    Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

  • @RUSAVED
    @RUSAVED 3 місяці тому +51

    Ammon Hillman literally looked like he was barely keeping the demons from bursting out of his body. Crazy!

    • @ThisisthewaySU
      @ThisisthewaySU 3 місяці тому +9

      @@RUSAVED facts! Its scary how many people ate that none sense up.

    • @TourniquetAndDeliverance
      @TourniquetAndDeliverance 3 місяці тому +7

      He had that same look that Kenneth Copeland has.

    • @user-followyeshua
      @user-followyeshua 3 місяці тому

      @@TourniquetAndDeliveranceyeah he did

    • @nadaproblem3023
      @nadaproblem3023 3 місяці тому

      ​@ThisisthewaySU nonsense huh? Are you familiar with classical Greek? Have a doctorate? Read the Septuagint much? Or is this the first time you've heard of it?

    • @RUSAVED
      @RUSAVED 3 місяці тому +5

      @nadaproblem3023 No, I can't. I also don't know exactly how to make electricity from scratch, but I know not to grab a down powerline. So many ppl have read and interpreted these things, and now this man is reading alternative meanings into the original words. You tell me where it says Jesus wrapped the boys' pennis. Nobody else has ever interpreted it like this because that's not what it means.

  • @gowest8184
    @gowest8184 3 місяці тому +16

    I need to clip the conversation about debating against skeptics and atheist because IP made an excellent point about the purpose of evil. IP is brilliant. I love his channel and yours Ruslan.

    • @shanetlogan
      @shanetlogan 3 місяці тому

      @@gowest8184 what part was that? I liked it too but forgot.

    • @gowest8184
      @gowest8184 3 місяці тому +1

      @@shanetlogan it was like at the last 10 to 15 minutes.

    • @Sciences0311
      @Sciences0311 Місяць тому +1

      Actually, u dont want to use IP argument at all. Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, yea? You all act like claims of a resurrection or Balaams talking donkey in a book is not extraordinary, as if its a mundane claim like reading about someone buying a new car 😒. These claims are not equal. The bible itself is the claim not the evidence. You all still have all of your work ahead of you.

  • @kimberlyholbrook5032
    @kimberlyholbrook5032 Місяць тому +2

    With regards to prophecy, some of these alleged prophets are getting their "words" from the same spirits these mediums and psychics are hearing from.

  • @malachi5813
    @malachi5813 3 місяці тому +7

    What an Amazing conversation gentlemen! God bless both of you!

  • @answeringadventism
    @answeringadventism 3 місяці тому +52

    It’s goofy that modern evangelicalism associates calling the Blessed Mother “the Mother of God” to be distinctly Roman Catholic. Historically this was understood to be basic to orthodox Christology because it’s a statement about Jesus as well-even by classical Protestants.

    • @craigpennington4525
      @craigpennington4525 3 місяці тому +3

      Maybe Catholics take it too far, maybe Protestants don’t take it far enough. The Theotokos is the closest to God that any man is 👍🏻

    • @juqeboxmedia
      @juqeboxmedia 3 місяці тому +24

      It’s the “Mother of God” being put into a worshipful context is where the problem comes from. Praying to her, her being a so called go between Man, Jesus and God is false. Down right Blasphemous.

    • @calebadcock363
      @calebadcock363 3 місяці тому +9

      @@answeringadventism Denying that Mary is the mother of God necessarily leads to denying the divinity of Christ

    • @darkma1ice
      @darkma1ice 3 місяці тому +3

      @@calebadcock363Catholics get so carried away that it seems they say Mary birthed god the: son, father and Holy Spirit

    • @calebadcock363
      @calebadcock363 3 місяці тому +14

      @@darkma1iceIf those Catholics actually exist, they don’t know their faith. The Catholic Church condemns that view.

  • @Nick-cn2fb
    @Nick-cn2fb Місяць тому

    Man I love your page. The way you cover the word and discuss things is completely different than everything I know. Pulls me in and hooks me. Thanks man

  • @jasoncichon491
    @jasoncichon491 3 місяці тому +3

    So refreshing to listen to someone offer context when discussing the Bible. I can't stand it when either non-believers or believers cherry pick verses to support an agenda without any context framing.

  • @ChristinaBiasca
    @ChristinaBiasca Місяць тому

    This guy full on helped me to see how people who see differently are still brothers and sisters in Christ. He is amazing at his ability to bring people back to the main issue. The gospel.

  • @kamiliajohnson7430
    @kamiliajohnson7430 24 дні тому

    I go to a church where prophecy/words of knowledge are given frequently. It's all been accurate and is at times given in the context of you having to make a move and God will do it. I'm currently walking out a word I was given 10 years ago from people who didn't know me and seeing it come about has been amazing and surprising.

  • @SurtierWood
    @SurtierWood 3 місяці тому +16

    Ive watched ip and other Christian yt for a while now and everytime i seen the ancient astronaut guy pop up on my feed i knew I could easily fact check him to death with simple google searches

  • @zechariahsmith1764
    @zechariahsmith1764 3 місяці тому +4

    I have been waiting for both of you to delve into this!

  • @PaulaSays123
    @PaulaSays123 28 днів тому

    Great questions, great answers. Thank you very much.

  • @Pocketsand662
    @Pocketsand662 Місяць тому

    How did I miss this video? Love these two!

  • @wakeupnsmellthecoffee
    @wakeupnsmellthecoffee 3 місяці тому +2

    I’d like to hear IP have a conversation with Timothy Alberino about the younger dryas period. That would be a great conversation for a podcast episode

  • @BigDan21.
    @BigDan21. 3 місяці тому +3

    Sincere question.... if prophecy is conditional, then what do we do with Deuteronomy 18:22
    [22] When a prophet speaks in the name of Yahweh, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which Yahweh has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

    • @ozzysherrod2604
      @ozzysherrod2604 2 місяці тому

      @BigDan21. how does that disprove his point? For that to be true, the conditions would have to be met, and then it would not happen, so you still have to meet the conditions.

    • @BigDan21.
      @BigDan21. 2 місяці тому

      @ozzysherrod2604 No where did i say it disproves anything. As I stated, it was a sincere question, I was looking for someone of knowledge to help explain this to me.

    • @ozzysherrod2604
      @ozzysherrod2604 2 місяці тому

      @BigDan21. well, if the passage is irrelevant to the statement, meaning that is doesn't provide support or dissent. Then, the argument is unchallenged. If you want a break down of this claim I could say that you would judge by the unconditional prophecy in the case of unmet conditions and the condition prophecy after the conditions have been met and then you can determine the value of a prophet.

  • @tplunk31
    @tplunk31 3 місяці тому +1

    I haven't even watched it yet but this is what we love to see!!!! Hopefully Billy reaches out and you can debate him In person

    • @nadaproblem3023
      @nadaproblem3023 3 місяці тому

      Even if he did they wouldn't because they aren't very smart 👆

  • @MrWaves-oj9ge
    @MrWaves-oj9ge 3 місяці тому +7

    As a non-charismatic, I do believe that people can get "words of knowledge" from God that would give specific insight and guidance into someone's situation or lay something on your heart for a specific person. I/my church just doesn't consider this prophecy.
    I am more with IP, I am just highly skeptical, especial of someone that would constantly get prophecy wrong (I don't see how someone constantly getting prophecy wrong brings glory to God)

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly. Perfectly-stated, 100%.

  • @Josef_Stylin
    @Josef_Stylin 3 місяці тому +1

    This was so insightful, and proved my point that you can learn from the Bible but you cant always learn about the Bible from the Bible

  • @youngwibbiflame
    @youngwibbiflame 3 місяці тому +1

    I love this guy he reassures me when I had questions about the faith may God bless him

  • @sobyntahondi
    @sobyntahondi 3 місяці тому +1

    Ruslan this episode was awesome .Thank you

  • @ThemCoversMB
    @ThemCoversMB 2 місяці тому

    It's good to hv these conversations.

  • @CoachNoahDavid
    @CoachNoahDavid 3 місяці тому +6

    Bro really pulled out Siri as his source 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @hanaymoraz
    @hanaymoraz 3 місяці тому +11

    I’ve been praying for MONTHS for Christian creators cover Billy Carson he’s leading so many people to hell. I pray to that he comes to God. I hope everyone here comes into agreement with me and pray for Billy and his followers to come to Christ

    • @nadaproblem3023
      @nadaproblem3023 3 місяці тому +1

      Lol "Hell". I'm sure you'll waste your life worrying about this fictitious nonsense. Good choice 👍

    • @PeterBoggs
      @PeterBoggs 2 місяці тому +7

      @@nadaproblem3023 I don't want to hear anything about "wasting your life" from a guy who created an asmr playlist with 516 videos on it.

  • @connorbennett1517
    @connorbennett1517 2 місяці тому +3

    7:37 Genesis 2 says nothing about the rivers wrapping around the whole Earth.

    • @WordOfYah
      @WordOfYah 2 місяці тому +3

      “Flows around the whole land of Cush” haven’t ever heard of an actual river doing that. Not everything is so hyper-literal.

  • @Crimsonlupus
    @Crimsonlupus 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for bringing IP on, he’s one of the few voices of reason on Christian apologetics that doesn’t feel compelled to be restrained by fundamentalists or conspiracy theorists.

  • @KennethTonseth
    @KennethTonseth 3 місяці тому +1

    Ruslan this was a good interview thank you! Would love it if you could talk to Mike Winger and see if he will come in for a talk.

  • @nathanielalderson9111
    @nathanielalderson9111 3 місяці тому +1

    Inversely, I know evil and demons exist, because people *I* know have revealed information to me that they should not know.
    "Evil" prophecy is also a valid tactic that the Enemy uses to convince people of his perspective.
    God speaks about this in Duet 13 and what to do, and how to recognise.

  • @choustoun1
    @choustoun1 3 місяці тому +7

    Ammon Hillman must have gone to the Charles T. Russel school of Greek translation.😆

  • @TheSpider-hs4jo
    @TheSpider-hs4jo 2 місяці тому

    Woa, Mike Jones/IP, awesome collab!

  • @BigDan21.
    @BigDan21. 3 місяці тому +1

    The one thing that I can not make sense of when I.P. speaks of conditonal prophecies is... since one of Jesus' conditions is for the whole world, to hear the gospel. How was it EVER going to be even remotely possible for the whole world to have heard the Gosple by the 1st or even 2nd century? I mean, Europeans didn't come to North America until 1492. How could Jesus make this a condition of his return and scripture be interpreted that Jesus did mean it was even possible his return to occurred in 1st or 2nd century?

  • @corporaltroll4271
    @corporaltroll4271 2 місяці тому

    IPs response to Billy Carson was particularly amazing

  • @snowyteddy
    @snowyteddy 3 місяці тому +1

    Yesss!!! Answering Hillman. Thank you Rus! For addressing true champ and thank you Inspire! True soldiers of God!
    FYI Dannys show is looking for someone to debate hillman. But I would not even bother with that absolutele disgust of a human

  • @deshon3523
    @deshon3523 27 днів тому

    I need a pen and notebook while listening to IP.

  • @John-ky9so
    @John-ky9so 2 місяці тому +1

    Ip is a great man. He truly helps bring glory to god and our world to christ

  • @Truthcarriers
    @Truthcarriers 2 місяці тому

    Great conversation

  • @Gabe-lj9fo
    @Gabe-lj9fo 3 місяці тому +4

    Remember. Michael’s views are based on HIS interpretation of the Bible and what it says. Which isn’t unanimously agreed upon world wide.

    • @freedomclub2285
      @freedomclub2285 3 місяці тому

      But his interpretation is based in facts and research. It's not just "I think or I want it to say this" He grounds his interpretation on the research of experts.

    • @Gabe-lj9fo
      @Gabe-lj9fo 3 місяці тому

      @@freedomclub2285 That’s a straw man argument because so does billy. Even michael quotes mark smith as some scholars agree with billy and others

    • @freedomclub2285
      @freedomclub2285 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Gabe-lj9fo It's not a strawman but I do have to say I was rather wrong. You brought up a good point. It's not always clear what's wrong or right because many experts as you said agree or disagree with eacother. But I do have to say that there are some positions that have better facts supporting them.
      Like the notion of the Gospels beinmg anonymous. The evidence for that is not very good and the arguments against it wholly debunk that idea. So it's always good to compare positions.

    • @freedomclub2285
      @freedomclub2285 3 місяці тому

      @@Gabe-lj9fo And some experts are more credible than others. For example Michael S. Heiser is more credible than John M. Allegro

    • @Gabe-lj9fo
      @Gabe-lj9fo 3 місяці тому +1

      @@freedomclub2285 I can agree that some scholars are more credible but only to a certain degree. You also have to factor in that biblical scholars tend to lean towards evidence supporting the Bible rather than being open minded about some of the more ambiguous passages and verses. Along with the arbitrary dating of some ancient texts that argue against the Bible

  • @justinjustin4605
    @justinjustin4605 3 місяці тому +2

    the main issue is how you can have death before the fall while holding to a old earth

    • @rover9806
      @rover9806 3 місяці тому

      Old earth creationists believe that there was death before the fall. Think about it this way: What is the purpose of a tree of life if there was no death, and God guarded it after the fall so Adam could not eat from it? Would He make something so useless? Answer is probably not.. I think Inspiring Philosophy covers it in his Genesis 1-11 series but im not sure. God bless

    • @nadaproblem3023
      @nadaproblem3023 3 місяці тому +1

      What a bunch of nonsense and wasted time you spend obsessing over misinterpreted, hand-me-down fairy tales.

    • @chrishenrico4576
      @chrishenrico4576 Місяць тому +1

      Death was introduced in the fall. Hence God's salvation plan. It was a test and we failed. It's plain in text. And we see tests all throughout the bible from who God appoints to lead His people until we get to Jesus where he does not fail.

  • @danthemanbardo
    @danthemanbardo 2 місяці тому

    I had a guy give me a word of knowledge that was word for word. Sentences that were playing in my mind for over a week but I had not told anyone this kind of thing is real

  • @HokageFlete
    @HokageFlete 3 місяці тому +27

    God made Adam and Eve fully grown adults. So say the first 30 mins they were on earth they appeared to be old when in reality they were only 30 mins old. So could God make the earth “appear” to look old when it’s not? Yeah
    Petrified trees also ties into YEC. Along with the question for OEC: Was there death before the fall?

    • @Brityf
      @Brityf 3 місяці тому +2

      Right. There is just not enough data that can't be explained by YEC and not enough data that disputes the Bible. I wasnt raised Christian. I believed this when HS showed me God was real but I hadn't received the HS. I was trying to fit the Bible into my pagan views. When I was born again, there was a point God revealed this to me. And honestly, with all the other things He had worked in me, this was the easiest thing for me to receive because I knew His power and i had confidence in Him as the sustainer

    • @craigpennington4525
      @craigpennington4525 3 місяці тому +3

      There was death, that’s why there was the tree of life 👍🏻 I’m still a YEC though😂

    • @CoachNoahDavid
      @CoachNoahDavid 3 місяці тому +3

      EXACTLY!! I was JUST teaching some other brothers this same exact concept yesterday! Those who support the theory of evolution…if God brought into existence a man already aged, then why wouldn’t he be able to do that to the world when he created it? It’s not a hard concept to understand if you already understand how God created Adam.

    • @HokageFlete
      @HokageFlete 3 місяці тому +3

      @@CoachNoahDavid Yup 🫡

    • @CoachNoahDavid
      @CoachNoahDavid 3 місяці тому +2

      @@HokageFlete God bless you Kakashi 🙏🏼

  • @AlValentyn
    @AlValentyn 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic video. Love IP videos and insights. Keep up the good work folks.

  • @brianboudrot7055
    @brianboudrot7055 3 місяці тому +2

    Fundamentalists weren't always young earth and there are still some who believe in an old earth or gap theory. The Scofield Bibles popularized it. It wasn't until the 1960s when Creation Research Institute was founded that things changed. Now there a number of young earth organizations not just them and answers in genesis.

    • @darkma1ice
      @darkma1ice 3 місяці тому

      Young earth created old

  • @kstarbar
    @kstarbar 3 місяці тому +1

    Loved this one, thanks guys!

  • @theencouragingcommunity7485
    @theencouragingcommunity7485 3 місяці тому +3

    *I uploaded a video called "Silly Carson Rant" where i touched on a few things that no one i know of has pointed out about Silly Carson*. Blessings !! Shalomie Homies !! 🧡

  • @FaithfulFireRadio
    @FaithfulFireRadio Місяць тому +9

    If the flood was localized then why would God tell Noah to build an Ark? Just tell him to move lol. Doesn't make any sense.

    • @jeremiahbooth2680
      @jeremiahbooth2680 Місяць тому +2

      It makes sense if it was world wide

    • @nickmartin6116
      @nickmartin6116 Місяць тому +2

      @@FaithfulFireRadio It makes sense even if the flood was localized for noah to build an ark, given that this allowed time for others to turn from sin, and since the flood was so large even if it wasnt worldwide the only way to get away was to float.
      Just some thoughts, not trying to seem combative or anything.

    • @roosterqmoney
      @roosterqmoney Місяць тому

      It's possible the world was much much much smaller in Noah's time. God is powerful. He can make earth bigger.

    • @nickmartin6116
      @nickmartin6116 Місяць тому

      @@roosterqmoney Just because he can doesn't mean he did, there isn't any good evidence for that claim, its just a feeling.

    • @eliwoods5683
      @eliwoods5683 21 день тому

      @@nickmartin6116a world wide flood would indicate a change of poles which is very unlikely since they were only in the ark a little over a year and and pole shifting takes a VERY long time lol

  • @gregariousguru
    @gregariousguru Місяць тому

    It's so disturbing the level that these haters take to try and pervert the gospels.

  • @tonygoodkind7858
    @tonygoodkind7858 2 місяці тому +1

    _"Genesis is not a science book, because science hadn't been invented yet,"_ he casually said about a book he feels was inspired by a literal all-knowing god who simply could've communicated clearly (and in a way that surprised everyone with its accuracy).
    Meanwhile what book did we instead end up with? One with exactly as many mistakes as we'd expect of ancient people writing a myth.

    • @Orthosaur7532
      @Orthosaur7532 2 місяці тому

      It would have been pointless to be a scientific document.

    • @tonygoodkind7858
      @tonygoodkind7858 2 місяці тому

      @@Orthosaur7532 Are you arguing that clear communication would be pointless? Do you understand your religion has *eternal punishment* on the line for non-believers and that the *Staggeringly Imperfect* way the Bible is communicated results in tons of non-believers? How can that not matter to you, that people are being doomed for eternity?
      You calling it "pointless" is basically you saying you don't care about those people who will experience eternal punishment as a direct result of this horrible communication.

  • @MeanBeanComedy
    @MeanBeanComedy 3 місяці тому +1

    Ruslan, you should have the other Michael Jones on, Garand Thumb! He's a Christian, and would love to talk about his faith on a different platform! 😎👍🏻

  • @DanzigDevilock
    @DanzigDevilock 2 місяці тому

    So much highlights in this episode!

  • @araenasanchez
    @araenasanchez 3 місяці тому +6

    We absolutely have no idea how long Adam and Eve were in the garden. It’s quite possible they were there for millions of years. God also gave the first commandment for them to be fruitful and multiply. Not obeying this commandment would’ve been a sin.

    • @Brityf
      @Brityf 3 місяці тому +1

      You think Adam's age was based on when he was removed from the garden and not his creation?

    • @WiscoRaider
      @WiscoRaider 3 місяці тому +1

      The Bible says Adam was 930 years old when he died

    • @jjnn2
      @jjnn2 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@WiscoRaiderMikey boy in the video has his own video where he explains that the ages of Adam and his descendants were more than likely symbolic, to give them more honor, as (apparently) was the custom.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 3 місяці тому +2

      @@jjnn2 They were not "symbolic". God very plainly told the both of them that they would die on the day they ate from the tree of human reasoning. And considering what the Bible says about a thousand yrs being like a day to God, that is exactly what happened. Adam died in just under 1000 yrs.

    • @jjnn2
      @jjnn2 3 місяці тому +3

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779 So then "a day" is a metaphor for, or symbolic of, a 1000 years.

  • @coptimal
    @coptimal 3 місяці тому

    26:30: Here was the verse you were talking about: 1 Corinthians 13:9: For we know in part and we prophesy in part.

  • @UncleScorch
    @UncleScorch Місяць тому

    Late to the party here - but I’m so thankful for this and glad to know that I’m not alone in my view of the universe/earth not being young. For anyone interested, Dr. Hugh Ross from Reasons to Believe is an excellent reference as well for an old earth creation scenario. Thank you Jesus for amazing men such as in this video and elsewhere.

  • @Bigchickens
    @Bigchickens 3 місяці тому +1

    24:18 even RTS teaches that prophesy isn’t just predicting the future

  • @ryanhopwood1148
    @ryanhopwood1148 3 місяці тому

    Its Called Word of Knowledge. When god downloads information about someone so you lift them up.

  • @JunkieDave
    @JunkieDave 2 місяці тому

    If we are including evolution in the conversation, how would Pangea affect the scriptures that talk about the rivers around the Earth? Very interesting conversation though. God bless the both of y’all 💪🏼💯❤️💎

    • @Orthosaur7532
      @Orthosaur7532 2 місяці тому

      Pretty sure the four rivers flowing from Eden would NOT exist.

  • @zr7699
    @zr7699 2 місяці тому

    I bet we find out one way or another that those rivers did rap around the entire earth, maybe underground for a large part of it.

    • @Orthosaur7532
      @Orthosaur7532 2 місяці тому

      I don't think so, plate tectonics would destroy that almost immediately (say, a millenium, give or take).

  • @Carreknow
    @Carreknow 3 місяці тому +1

    Such an interesting view on prophecy. I can honestly say I have always seen prophesy as fatalistic, if it’s prophecy then God will do it. The conditional variable is serious and now I have something else to track as I read the word. 😅

    • @Carreknow
      @Carreknow 3 місяці тому +2

      Many have prophesied over me. I look in the mirror and think maybe this isn’t going to happen but it’s not because of the Lord. Much of what was said over Ruslan I can relate. He is still at work in me though so it’s all in his time as well.

    • @Rocko1II
      @Rocko1II 3 місяці тому +2

      If it's conditional it should be said. In Bible where it's conditional they say," if you then..."

  • @christianwright6714
    @christianwright6714 3 місяці тому +1

    I humbly disagree with the guests view on prophesy. Nineveh, the wicked city, was destroyed by their repentance. They were reborn as Nineveh the Repented. When I became a Christian the old me died. The old me was destroyed. It is fair to infer that the conditionality of the Jonah prophesy was "You destroy the wickedness or I will."
    The prophesy was fulfilled.

  • @thisismyhandle1111
    @thisismyhandle1111 3 місяці тому +4

    Guys we need to start converting Israel

    • @demarpowell2654
      @demarpowell2654 3 місяці тому

      😂

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy 3 місяці тому +2

      Hahahahaha!!! 😆😆😝
      Good luck! We've been trying for 2,000 years! The good news is "Israel" is now the Church.

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 3 місяці тому +1

      That's not up to you. Paul stated in Romans that God has committed all of Israel to unbelief. It is NOT in His plans for them to be converted before Christ returns. The idea that they have to be converted now just shows that ppl don't study their bibles like they should. The Prophets show God saying that will be done during the Millennium. " _No man_ can come to Me unless the Father draws Him". Those are Christ's words in Jhn 6:44,65.

    • @RolandoMartinez-bp1ox
      @RolandoMartinez-bp1ox 2 місяці тому

      ​@MeanBeanComed no, Israel is Israel.

  • @michaelolz
    @michaelolz Місяць тому

    I’m not a Calvinist. However, I am a Kleinist. (I’m sorry. I’ve kept that one to myself for a while now and it’s just time. Love you, bros.)

  • @Dygyareth
    @Dygyareth 3 місяці тому

    I encourage all to read and study 1 Corinthians 15 in regards to the resurrection.

  • @JuanRodriguez-p2z
    @JuanRodriguez-p2z 2 місяці тому

    40:19 James in Spanish is actually Santiago but I get it as does everyone else 😂😂

  • @BrianTorres-u1o
    @BrianTorres-u1o 2 місяці тому

    Great podcast 👏

  • @paleokitten
    @paleokitten 3 місяці тому +1

    The Bible says that God rested in the 7th day, but it never mentioned the end of the 7th day. We're still in the 7th day as God is no longer creating. There's nothing unbiblical about an old Earth philosophy. Regardless, our faith in in Jesus a our Savior, not in the age of the Earth. Praise God that we're saved through Jesus

    • @abkbofficial
      @abkbofficial 3 місяці тому

      There also nothing unbiblical about a young earth. Its actually highly supported in the bible when dive into the layers of certain books and chapters. God does not make mistakes, this isn't a conspiracy its simply a biblical truth.

  • @El.Matamoros.
    @El.Matamoros. 2 місяці тому +1

    This needs time stamps

  • @fullchurchahead6849
    @fullchurchahead6849 21 день тому

    I am at the 36 minute mark so you guys may cover this verse when discussing prophecy, but I wanted to put it here just in case I forget to ask.
    How do you reconcile Deut. 18:22? To me it seems like the test to see if a prophet is false or not is if they say something and it does not come true then it did not come from God. This verse doesn't seem to give room for the idea that their culture understood that all prophecies were conditional. If that were the case, then if it did not come true, wouldn't they just know that God retracted? Instead Moses tells them that it did not come from God.

  • @melchysomba9690
    @melchysomba9690 3 місяці тому +4

    Happy to see IP on this channel again!!!

  • @GeekyGeckoCreations
    @GeekyGeckoCreations 3 місяці тому +2

    For old earth to work, death would have had to come before sin correct? However we are told sin and death entered the world thru Adam's sin. So what is your explanation for how to reconcile this?

    • @RuslanKD
      @RuslanKD  3 місяці тому +4

      What kinda death?

    • @GeekyGeckoCreations
      @GeekyGeckoCreations 3 місяці тому +4

      @@RuslanKD Ok so the defense for an old earth is that physical death was in the world already but spiritual death was not until Adam fell? Hello Ruslan BTW big fan! :D

    • @rockstarburne
      @rockstarburne 3 місяці тому +1

      @@GeekyGeckoCreations The claim is usually that there was animal death but not human death. but according to darwinian evolution. we came from the animals, so in what sense would we have not died also? obviously i dont think evolution would refute God even if i did beleive in evolution, but i just dont see how you can reconcile it, with the story of genesis

    • @RuslanKD
      @RuslanKD  3 місяці тому +1

      @GeekyGeckoCreations yeah I think that’s an argument I’ve heard. Specifically with Adam and Eve being the first people too. Even though there seems to be creatures on the earth after Cain gets cast. I’m saying this is the position. I think you should explore Mike’s debates. And thank you for the comment and being respectful.

    • @MeanBeanComedy
      @MeanBeanComedy 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@GeekyGeckoCreations Yes, spiritual death entered into the world of humans. It's a separation from God.

  • @knightfall4011
    @knightfall4011 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing your wisdom. ❤

  • @SugarBooger10
    @SugarBooger10 3 місяці тому +2

    Luv this thank you 🙏

  • @charlesking9120
    @charlesking9120 Місяць тому

    Why not require a conditional prophet to specify what the condition is. Then at least we can make a proper judgement of it. Also, am I wrongly remembering how serious false prophecies were in the OT? Wasn't prophetic failure justification for rejecting an alleged 'Word of the Lord' from said prophet?

  • @CallMeFil
    @CallMeFil Місяць тому

    You’re forgetting the fact that these holidays are not glorifying God

  • @bakhop
    @bakhop 2 місяці тому

    Jesus told Caiphas that he would not see him until he said blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. He said it to confirm that every tongue confess and every knee shall bow, not that Jewish people have to acknowledge Jesus before the Parousia, that's just misunderstanding how Jesus was doing what he did during his ordeal, speaking the truth and confirming who he is.

  • @Rocko1II
    @Rocko1II 3 місяці тому +1

    With pangea there may have been rivers across whole super continent.

    • @q-petebassin2557
      @q-petebassin2557 2 місяці тому

      Yea but Pangea would have been before smt hominid species were on earth. The “entire earth” is definitely metaphorical in genesis

  • @888_vav
    @888_vav 18 днів тому

    Biblical Prophecy may be a reoccurring psychological process and just deviates based on cultural / environmental and other variables but holds the same fundamental archetype undertones individually nd collectively. This is how jesus recognized his situation on past literature with past and current prophetic text. This is also why there seems to be OT and NT prophecy is unfolding currently.
    Regardless of past history and the intitial intent on the scriptures its possible the writers unconsciously wrote to be valid over millennia while recording past consciously at the time.

  • @reziinho1414
    @reziinho1414 3 місяці тому

    Around the 40th minute mark IP goes on about children rebelling because other kids celebrate these non-biblical holidays and so “God is against fun”. Good thing Jesus came to bring truth not fun, and He said the way is narrow for a reason. We should not go with the world if it means going against God. If a Christian family in the pagan Roman Empire saw all the others having “fun” should they be compelled to join in? +God outlined festivals which he cherishes in the Bible itself so he’s wrong in saying fundamentalist Christianity has “no holidays”.

    • @BibleThumper94
      @BibleThumper94 3 місяці тому

      Where does it say holidays are bad

  • @JB-ww8jh
    @JB-ww8jh Місяць тому

    I’m a young earth creationist but I don’t think it’s something you have to believe to be saved. It’s not a major issue

  • @poik247
    @poik247 3 місяці тому +4

    You’re covering a lot of things in the last interview you had with Micheal….

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 2 місяці тому

    One clarification. Gish gallop isn't a fallacy. It's merely a rhetorical technique. It's viewed as weak argumentation (which it is as it tends to do away with any substantiation). But you can be making 10 formally logical, albeit weak, un-fallacious arguments.
    Great interview nonetheless.

  • @BigDan21.
    @BigDan21. 3 місяці тому

    I heard this recently and would love to hear others' opinions on it... what about God creating something ( earth, man) with age already built in. For example if Adam was created as a man, he passed the whole infant stage, yet would be 1 day old and a dulky grown man at.

  • @mcfarvo
    @mcfarvo 2 місяці тому

    Mike Jones 🎶 🎵 he's got a [king] that's far too strong 💪

  • @larrywells5908
    @larrywells5908 3 місяці тому +1

    I could never figure out how people were just blindly believe someone like Jordan Maxwell or or how people get tripped up saying the Red Sea and the Reed Sea I just love it how we forget that the Hebrews back then did not speak American English and in the Greek I'm sure that red and reed aren't as closely spelled and pronounced as they may be in English I'm just saying and that's not the only thing they do that way please do not mistake the English language and how words can sound similar and believe that happened in the Greek are Aramaic please English is not the universal language throughout time in history!

    • @nadaproblem3023
      @nadaproblem3023 3 місяці тому +1

      These people can't process simple academic facts like this. Their beliefs prevent them from doing so.

    • @user-JJJJJJJJJ
      @user-JJJJJJJJJ 2 місяці тому +1

      @larrywells5908 totally. Sun and son is another one some folk, particularly those immersed in various occult teachings, like to try and say is the real truth lost to the unenlightened.

    • @larrywells5908
      @larrywells5908 2 місяці тому

      @@user-JJJJJJJJJ in the past I've been swept up in those kind of things also but I was never going to quit at that point I was still going to look into it check it out follow up on stuff the scary part is a lot of people won't do that they will instead forget everything the man said the only part they retain is the doubt that he planted in their head

  • @davidtmartinjr
    @davidtmartinjr 3 місяці тому +3

    The goat is back

  • @johnherrerap
    @johnherrerap 28 днів тому

    Baptism is kind of a big deal actually…. Other than that solid

  • @traviscrooks7038
    @traviscrooks7038 3 місяці тому

    Law of extremes, fundamentalist that explain their views to their kids and don’t just spew rules are the issue not fundamentalist .Humans tend to see one problem from either side of the aisle and run to one extreme or another and write everything off in between , humans never have balanced views only staunch stances .

  • @TheChivalrousChickenTender
    @TheChivalrousChickenTender 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m still waiting on… Moorrree Fish 🐟

  • @joshuawoodin
    @joshuawoodin 3 місяці тому

    IP is so awesome, personally my favorite philosopher in the 21st century is David Wood, but lately he has been going to hard on Mike Winger, and William Lane Craig is one of the greatest philosophers of our day. But no one, i repeat NO ONE is better at debunking theological conspiracy theories like all holidays are pagan, and the best defender of children against sick people like that daniel guy, my goodness do we see why islams pattern of conduct has been harmful for the last 1,400 years ?

  • @ShooterReview
    @ShooterReview 3 місяці тому

    So costums and passing out candy came from the Catholic church and has nothing to do with pagan celebrations? Interesting.

  • @brentfurbee6863
    @brentfurbee6863 2 місяці тому

    Look, I get it wanting all to come to salvation, but according to Jesus's words, it'll be like the days of Noah, which will be a bad time for all. I hope He comes today, but we can speculate all day about when and how and never truly know. Overall, it's a good convo.

  • @shanetlogan
    @shanetlogan Місяць тому

    Brad Lea was insufferable to watch. I was impressed by IP's patience during that interview.