Where Are the Droids We're Looking For? Star Wars, Hasbro, and Stan Solo
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Michael wonders about Hasbro's Retro Collection and its lack of core characters - the droids C-3PO and R2-D2, and what collectors can do about it.
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When you mentioned Disney wanting to distance themselves, it only just occured to me that Leia was made a slave on Tatooine, like her father before her (and saved by a Jedi who came to bargain)
Not a slave, but an unpaid intern dancer.
Those R2-D2's look alot better than Hasbro. Stan Solo is doing great work
Customs usually will
Exclusives are a thing that really needs to die, it is always a mess.
I don’t mind exclusives as long as they’re not ones of key characters or they’re based on less well known versions of them like a Origins Disco Skeletor.
@@rayvenkman2087
I thought you were going to say disco Vader for a second there.
Deep down inside people love elitism in ANY form and the ones guarding the door know this. "I have this and you don't, so I am better than you" end of story.
I applaud this man’s efforts and his quality. Amazing work.
They look better than Hasbro (both card and figure) and they're easier to get. I'm all in on the Stan Solo figures.
Stan Solo has basically been able to continue the Kenner Star Wars line. It is like he went back in time to a parallel universe where these figures were made and brought them to us. I love them, I have 5 of his custom droids and I plan to get them all. It's awesome.
I really like your direct and honest approach to expressing your point of view. You aren't afraid to say what most of us are actually thinking. I appreciate how informative and fact-based your videos are. You give credit where credit is due....and I love your museum-curated toy collection. Keep up the great work Michael.
Great Video my friend. I always enjoy your perspective.
What's even more frustrating is that the new Vintage Collection Mando, if I'm not mistaken, has a Vac-Metal helmet. Of course it's only available on the Amazon version, and not the regular retail release. Hasbro in a nutshell.
I hope the irony that without the droids the line is “soulless” is not lost on anyone.
What's even more crazy is that fact that the VERY first characters on the first Star Wars in 1977 was the two droids 3PO and R2 and in every final end scenes you always see both the DROIDS on screen in the background in the original trilogy. And Hasbro is not doing jack on these two for there retro line WHY!?!
I think Kennedys lucas film just dislikes artooo and threepio in general given that the only notable thing they did were just used as glorified plot devices in the sequels (it's even more egregious when you consider that the reason george put them in the prequels was because he wanted to be like the "red book" from lotor in that the saga was artroo recollecting it all to the whills
@@retro_morgan9208 I've started to assume that many things got dropped in the sequels probably down to money, rather than creative choice.
I think Lucas probably gets an extra 0.25% (or whatever) of the profits if specific names are used/licensed. Hence there are so many BB8 toys, because more of the cash goes directly to Bad Robot LF and Disney. "Rey's lightsaber" being a good example.
They wanted to, but there's a relatively new exec over at Hasbro that's been in charge of the Star Wars Retro line. I think his name is Wuhan or something like that.
Early this June I got the next Star Wars Retro Collection Action Figure Set with the second half of the Kenner FIRST 12 figures include C-3PO, R2-D2, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Death Squad Commander, Jawa and Tusken Raider. Wonder if Michael will ever talk about how they chrome the droids.
But that Kylie Minogue shirt tho 😍🤩
I was going to mention that. Couldn’t tell who it was and my FIRST thought was Michael had a shirt made of the TaeBo partner Billy Blanks has in the new Geico commercial and I thought, “no, it CAN’T be.”
Maybe the CEO of Hasbro is the same guy that used to work in the Cantina on Tatooine? "We don't serve their kind here."
So true Michael. The fans do the best work👍 And as always , great video topic
Dude, I love Double Deckers!!! You have good taste!
Always two there are; the crispy cereal, and the soft nougat
Im not a toy collector or even a huge Star Wars fan but I love how passionate the fans and Michael are about this stuff. Keeps me coming back.
Im glad i own a legacy collection chrome C3PO, he was one of my first star wars figures and hes amazing, he also comes with the Ewok throne
Picked up R2 and 3PO carded after watching yours and Analog Toys reviews. Wow, these figures did not disappoint. Even grabbed the Luke stormtrooper carded. First class service from Chris and even replied to my message. Perfect addition to my study zone.
I didn’t know there were such opposing voices to repro stuff. That’s a shame. If only there was a toy maker that had the official license that could do something.
In the mean time, thanks to the fans that are doing great work and making nostalgia accessible :)
Fantastic review Michael. Chris has really worked his nuts off, and done an incredible job. The absolute hilarity of a humble, hardworking, honest chap from the North-East of England, consistently embarrassing a corporation the size of Hasbro...
Whereabouts in the North East? That's my neck of the woods
@@theflyingninja1 Saltburn. I was amused because I used to live in Loftus.
Thank you for the content you provide in these difficult times. My family and I have been searching for C3po and R2D2 for so long. It is the childhood memories that keep us going these days. I purchased them from Stan Solo today! I cant wait to show my children. I have the originals but they are not in good quality. I had wished Hasbro would release them. Now I don’t have to worry any more. Thanks again for all that you do! For Christmas I picked up some playmobile toys for my niece and nephew the scooby doo sets. They are awesome and toys I did not have as a kid to play with as I watched my favorite episodes. Thank goodness for playmobile!!
The Stan Solo figures absolutely rule. The quality is incredible
Great take on these figures. Thanks for holding the line
Very informative and interesting as always - top job!
R2 & c3po were the favourite toys of my sister and I when the first film came out. I think their somewhere in the loft, but in a 'very played' condition. The 70's toys were great, we had amazing battles with the star wars figures against the micronaughts. Those good old days when life was so simple.
I love the way you blast modern toy companies and their odd business practices. I am a modern collector and it is very frustrating that every desirable requires hoops, ladders, and other obstacles to find and acquire. It is bizarre.
Michael, this was a great video featuring Kylie and Princess Leia in her slave outfit!
Oh, and your observations on the Star Wars figures, were spot on.
Fans are still doing the best work!
Have you considered connecting with the Spector Creative channel? He's someone who worked the DC Classics and Matty Collector line for Mattel and might be able to answer some of the "Why are they doing this insanity" questions we have.
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Please do more of these. they bring peace to my weary soul.
Great video, those figures look incredible. I see more custom fan made toy purchases in my future.
Great video today! I will be ordering some of the Stan Solo stuff. Very nice 👍🏻
Great video about a subject I cannot wrap my head around as well. Stan Solo's figures are fantastic and I have two of his R2's in my collection as well. But thanks to this video I now understand why my Yavin R2's dome was different to the original Kenner R2...I didn't realise he had used the pop up lightsaber dome as the basis of his solid dome version...so light bulb moment...lol. And after watching this video I thought to myself that I should get another one from Stan Solo...so straight over to Etsy I went. When the fans do the best work you have to support them!
@1:44 -- Heh -- Potato Head Solo! I had one of these. That guy always looked more like Ham Salad from Hardware Wars!
Amazing work done by Stan Solo i will be buying some in the future
Love your videos guys, the best on YT!
Great vid! I have many stansolo figures already, in fact one just arrived yesterday! Nothing better than getting new “vintage” Star Wars figures!!!
I collect 6” and I love mandalorian, but I don’t know anyone that wants retro versions of those figures. That is only my opinion. Great video!
Same here, I think a one off 2 pack of Mando and Grogu would of worked well but I really can't see anyone wanting many of the rest
I'm looking forward to seeing The Mandalorian "vintage" figures. They look fun. Probably won't see a single one on a store shelf, though.
Same. It's cool to finally have toys based on new characters I actually like. Doesn't feel like they're being pushed on me as it did with the sequel trilogy new character figures. There's some amount of demand there in this case. It's nice to have the same old faithful characters done many times in different ways, but new stuff is what keeps things fresh. New stuff you like and want anyway. Gonna be honest, and I might catch some shit for this, but at this point in time I'd rather have Mando figures than more OT droid variants.
Glad your an
anglophile Michael - I'm British and love the RetroBlasting channel & all your videos :)
7:51 "markedly different enough that anti-repro people can't get their pants in a wad"
I wish I shared your optimism on the subject
Very good points about Hasbro.
Love it! Those are great questions on why they are not in the reteo collection. I guess they think they would not make money, but in reality, they would definitely be in demand if they gave it a chance. I guess Hasbro are scared. I'm not sure why, which was the point of this video. Great content 👍
I think you need to do a joint episode with Spector Creative. That guy has knowledge!
Just my thought. He will most likely share some good insight. May not like the answer, but it is probably as close to the truth as anyone
Absolutely, I love his channel. Makes you realize that there are human beings behind this faceless corporate entity. In many cases these are people who have tremendous passion for their work, but budgets and other nuts and bolts issues don't allow for them to please every person while also trying to turn a profit. It's also enlightening to learn from him how little adult collectors actually matter in the overall scheme of things. That fact sheds a lot of light onto some of the decisions we don't immediately understand. He's provided more knowledge about production and distribution than I've gotten from any other single source.
Spector creation did a vid about vac metalization and what it is and why some modern figures can't have it
It's sad, but the only way I've ever seen a fandom based business actually worry about really satisfying their fans is when they have a terrible financial year.
Games Workshop came in way under expected earnings during a booming economy and shortly thereafter the old CEO was canned, and over the next five years we saw a big slate of new games, community outreach, and a radical change in atttitude.
The NFL lost 10% of its viewership season-to-season and they brought back touchdown celebrations after thinking it over for all of a hot minute. Literally decades of entrenched thinking on that topic thrown out in little more than an instant by the same old men who came up with it in the first place the second they realized ratings were nose-diving right as billion dollar TV contracts were soon coming to an end.
These management types don't remember their job is to satisfy customers in exchange for money until the situation becomes critical, and this will never change.
the fans and and some 3rd party toy makers are doing a better job than the hasbrows and the mattel's
I think the one thing anti-repro people tend to forget (or deny), technicalities like legal ownership aside, is that Hasbro is not Kenner. No matter how hard they can try they'll never be Kenner. That was a company that had some great innovations that modern-day Hasbro just can't measure up to. Small companies like Smith Lord and Stan Solo just get it.
Never thought I'd hear you use the word "chuffed". This Brit approves 👍
Great job as always, Mike!
Thanks for sharing this information!
I 100% agree! 3PO with removable limbs and R2 sensorscope were my first two figures, and the Retro Collection needs some version of these Droids!!
"How many versions of Darth Vader you can buy"
*one week later Hasbro's Black Series reveals are Kenner versions of a Jawa, Obi Wan and Greedo*
#800: Thumbs up to the Kylie shirt. Now I want to have a collection of Roison Murphy shirts. Thanks, Michael.
You nailed it right on the head Michael....the reason i stopped collecting Transgormers (and collecting as a whole) is im sick to death of all the Optimus Primes out there,be it offical or 3rd party.
Just to try it I ordered some Double Decker candy bars from Amazon. Great video!
I bought a few of Stan Solo's droids. 0-0-0 is on it's way now because I love Doctor Aphra. I did pre-order the Mandalorian figures because they looked kind of fun in that style.
Thank you so much for this vlog. I've been asking the same question. Where are the droids? I'm so glad to hear that other people are wondering where are R2 and 3PO? Thanks to Stan Solo they're back but Kenner needs to release them in the retro collection. Thank you so much for bringing this up and may the force be with you.
"Chuffed"! I love it when you use "British". Could you maybe one day do a video of your memories of your time here?
This has always bugged me about the Retro Collection! These were my first two action figures as a kid and are still my favorite characters of all time (especially R2!) and I collect these 2 in every line I can. I was horribly disappointed they werent in the initial Retro line, but at the time thought theyd be in the next 6 soon after to finish the “first 12” as I was naive that Hasbro would do the first 12 surely, and the vac metallizaton was probably the delay blame. Then a year and we got the Empire 6(7, ya know what I mean) and no droids! I finally got a Stan Solo shiny new lightsaber R2 in the vintage card bubble to keep with my retro figs as I just couldnt handle not having R2 represented. It’s annoying in a major way. My fear was that -if vac metalizing *is* the reason - they’d wait and release the lame-o Droids line versions which are just plastic, no chrome dome, no gold sheen. Please Hasbro, stop being cheap and stupid and release them, and do R2 in his Sensorscope version which is the best R2 and most versatile for all scenes and dioramas! Or do a combo Sensorscope/Lightsaber pop up, 3rd leg version but dont pack it with a stupid game unless you include Empire 3PO with his cargo net as a 2 pack. The game thing sucks, how about you stop that as the games are a waste of trees.
Good job Michael. Love you and Melinda. And the cat. Lol.
I love seeing your videos on these reissues, it's the only way I get to see them lol! I've ONLY seen the Death Star game round these parts. 🧐
Of all the criticisms one could throw at you, disingenuousness isn't one of them. You're obviously passionate about your chosen hobby and it comes through in every video you've made. Always enjoy your content.
‘Chuffed’, haha from the UK
Seriously though, Stan Solo’s figs are just great - that Yavin 3PO is even more beautiful in hand, I was surprised how much I loved it
These are cool! And great point about why are the droids missing? Hasbro is doing what Disney demands. And the current demand right now is to pump out as much Baby Yoda as they possibly can. If you look at the majority of new Star Wars merchandise it’s ALL Baby Yoda. We just found a cool website (google “desert octopus”) where you can get cool retro Kenner figures as 3D models for 3D printing. The droids are there and plenty more, highly recommend everyone check it out. And yes Michael, the fans are still doing the best work. Great video as always!
When I was 6 (1985), I used to have R2 D2 and C3 P0 in my pocket, in my school. They were leftovers of my big brother but I love them! Your video just triggered my memories in a very happy way. And I want to know too, why Hasbro avoid the Droids?
THE FANS ARE DOING THE BEST WORK!!!!!!!!
Man these are amazing! But they're so expensive! I really would like to buy some carded ones, but managing my budget for them is really hard.
My take away is that Mike hit the nail on the head. Alot of these big toy companies are just refreshing the same popular characters over and over. Gotta have Snake Eyes, but no telling if were getting Quick Kick or Jinx. Roll out Retro Mando but no Shadows of the Empire.
This just hurts me. Because C3PO and R2D2 are my favorite characters in all of these films. We need these figures.
Great vid as always. It would not surprise me if they released the droids as a 2 pack limited edition and charged £30/$30.
At least we'd get them I suppose.
I wish the R2-G4 was glow in the dark. It looks like it should to me. That’s just me, always a sucker for glow in the dark gimmicks
Yes! "Fans are doing the best work!"
I must say they are nice figures. I recently got a chance to see some of these figures that a friend has.
Now in all honesty, I don't have a passion for anything Star Wars. I was a small child when Return of the Jedi came out. I have seen all of the movies, but I am not into it. With that confession,
I really do love and appreciate the passion that fans have put into their creations. To think of the amazing results these fans have done, I am just blown away. I just can't wait for fans to do more franchises besides Star Wars and GIJOE.
My character in Starwars galaxies was named Kenner.
I’m def gonna buy this r2d2 and 3po because I don’t want to handle my originals and they are so beautiful
Those mock ups at 7:44 are fantastic. Those are really the only other ones I want. Just those two.
FANS ARE DOING THE BEST WORK!
I'm chuffed tou made an awesome video and yes I'm from the UK lol. No really why is c-3po and R2-D2 not in the retro collection. I'm amazed, as like you said they should be. All the very best buddy 😁
Happy to see that a 50 year old dude like me isn’t the only guy interested In any and all retro toys of my youth . High Marks for this channel .
I had no idea they made a retro collection tarkin. I obviously knew about the mothma one since it came in a six pack, but not him. That's good. Honestly my only real issue with these 3rd party vintage remakes is how expensive they usually are. I've heard that the retro collection isn't as good as the competition, and from owning both a retro collection yak face as well as a reproduction I can confirm that, but man the price of like 15-20 dollars is way nicer than a slightly more faithful but 50 dollar one. My favorite example has to be the cancelled droids second line, like I do have love in my heart for characters like Kleb Zellock and Gaff for how much of a mysterious anomaly they were as a kid, but not enough love to pay 80 dollars each. Stan Solo comes close to a reasonable price, but still at cheapest they're around 30 which is still too much.
Cadbury Crunchies are my favorite. My brother-in-law is from Ireland and would send me care packages from Ireland with various goodies. Fell in love with Crunchies.
I love Crunchies, too. They taste great, but for me, it's the texture - the difference in mouth feel between the chocolate, and the honeycomb, as you bite into one.
Hey man, at $50 a pop for a loose Stan Solo figure, it ain’t totally cheap, but worth every penny, IMO. I am thrilled to be able to finally own some of the final 17 figs without paying an arm and a leg. Just got an Amanaman and Yak Face and couldn’t be happier. Amazing that someone is making these with such accuracy.
Michael is a wordsmith & call's it as it is! Not a truer word spoken than what this man say's.👏👏👏 Cheers👍🏻🍻
Total no brainer that C3P0 and R2 should be in the retro collection.. Stan Solo's droids are fantastic, love the Hoth R2's...
I have *never* cared about a C3PO figure, and don't really care about an R2 at this late date. But I have to say, those two figures look amazing, and I'd happily display them.
First of all, you make wonderful videos, both entertaining and educational so thank you. I am a newcomer (only started last month) and discovering so many things over the past few weeks. One of them being, I can't get a separate Hasbro retro R2-D2. Sadly, I am unable to purchase a Stan Solo variant as they are sold out. And Hasbro only made a 6 figure box which was not shipped to the EU. I contacted our local Hasbro office and even they cannot help us. Very strange that Hasbro keeps re-issueing certain figures almost in overlapping / overwhelming quantity while not simply making what so many crave: the old Kenner style R2-D2 and C-3PO. Please Stan Solo, can you help us (again)? You're our only hope.
Thanks for sharing!!!!👍👏👏👏👏‼️
Your videos are one of a kind,
If I had to describe your videos I would call them Spock like, very logical.
Something I would like to see Stan Solo do is a ESB/ROTJ acurite Boba Fett, as the original is exellent (and my favorite figure) and the mold is exellent, it is however based on the prototype armour (Hense the red and yellow gauntlets) so it would be nice to see a proper movie version by Stan
"Fans are doing the best work." Hence why The Mandalorian is doing so well......................it's made by fans.
Yep. Jon Favreau and Dave filoni are big fans of star wars.
Funny how it's "fans" making the Mandalorian but "Disney" making the movies. It's making both.
The mandalorian is a tv show about nothing.
@@blackRXrider And yet it's vastly more entertaining than those movies that are about "Something."
Once again you've hit the nail on the head pointing out the glaring shortcomings of Hasbro Star Wars. It's also notable that the ESB retro line is still missing in action. You can't buy those figures at retail anywhere! You can still buy the first wave of retro figures at retail online, but no frickin' ESB line... WTF? I'm ordering a Stan Solo C-3PO right away. Also where is Obi wan Kenobi in the retro line... seriously, but now we have retro Mandalorian figures on the way. I'm not following the logic here.
Well said, Michael.
I so agree with your views on Amazing Fan made figures :)
I'm enjoying my retro collection r2d2 and c3p0 right now, and my amazing mon mothma 😊
agree too with storm and thunderbird exclusive. i was waiting for them since toybiz marvel legend 2ne wave...2003.
There's another guy on etsy selling torso stickers for the 3PO figures. And they're great and really make those vintage 3POs complete
Stan Solo Creations has just released a Vintage style Slave Leia for pre-order on Etsy.
ooo that is a nice R2-G4... I too like the colors, seems kinda artdeco to me.
I definitely feel like the ROTJ wave will focus on the final battles with Endor Leia and Han, Jedi Knight Luke, wicket, Emperor, and Biker scout. Makes sense with what they’ve put out before.
BRO!!!!! I want your T-shirt 👋😻👍
I buy from Stan Solo. Love his products. I've ordered a few times and every time has been great. 5 star company.
Hopefully you do a video about the early 90's Toybiz Marvel figures. That line held up real well and they look awesome 30 years later.
"Boooom" xD LOL
Asking the real questions right here lol. I’m dying to get these retro carded. The Empire wave was pretty hard to find.