One important point about cars - physical controls are safer. After about a month, you develop a muscle memory for the control panel. With touchscreens that is impossible. One has to take his eyes off the road to actually manipulate the central dash controls.
More than muscle memory, it's the ability to kind of caress the keys for finding their exact location. Basically you recognize the key by shape, and then you can press it. Which of course on a touchscreen cannot be done
And also, no one can change where the physical button is by updating the version of software in your car. On a touchscreen? Who knows where that one setting you need is now :)
It was touchscreens in cars that made me become aware of the need for physical interfaces in our lives. Probably because driving is such an important, dangerous situation that you really notice it.
Yes! I still remember my first time driving a Tesla and on the first drive I already realized how distracting and dangerous touchscreen was. Especially on Teslas where you don't even have a speedometer visible without looking at passanger toes. Also the car going wuuwii alarm for even keeping both feet at pedals like you are supposed to be alert driver??? Then it started raining and the rain sensors were shit. I was unable to find windshield viper controls and I had to drive distracted with limited visibility trying to find controls for it. Never found it. PHYSICAL controls are important! Luckily some manufacturers like VW already admitted that removing all important physical controls as a cost saving move was a mistake and they will be spending the money on important physical controls again!
Busted. Explaination: - Gameboy advance SP was my first gameboy (bought it by saving up my own money) and I played pokemon ruby to death so I am quite attached to it - but Gameboy color is more aesthetic (and purple)
@@enricotartarotti We all forgive you. Thank you for the great content man! And 3rd gen was peak pokemon, nice to speak with someone who also probably spent weeks or months wandering if Mirage island was actually F'n real or not!
My 2 cents: does a phone need a button? no. Should a glovebox be opened from a screen that might not be anywhere near it without any means to open it directly? Also no. Some buttons can be made away with, but some shouldn't be moved and eliminates/ How do you decide which is which? you ask yourself what's more convenient. And you go button by button. If a physical button is preferable you keep it. If it's not you remove it. If it's simpler to use a physical button you keep it, if not you remove it. Simpler for the consumer that is.
Years ago, going bitmap + touch felt like "progress". Now, more and more, it looks like a lack of design mind and capabilities. "let's ship it as is, we'll fix this later".
The Nord Stage Keyboard is exactly what you are talking about, and it's my favorite keyboard that I have ever used because it is physical and digital at the same time
Give me a physical keyboard. I hate soft keyboards. I had a blackberry (powered by android) all the way up to 2020. I texted so much faster, had way fewer errors, could compose grammatically correct emails, I could even reasonably edit documents in a pinch. Soft keyboards feel like texting drunk no matter how I set it up and no I'm not in my 50s or 60s.
I was SOOOO excited to see a giant wheel at the back of CMF Phone. Oh my god a wheel that can control volume, scroll etc. It was a gimmick. I'm still mad about it
I'm a software designer, and you made the video I have wanted to make (or at least write an article about) for years-and you really nailed the argument! Thank you for speaking to my heart.
about the touch bar part: the MacBooks from 2020 and onwards were not praised that much because Apple got rid of the touch bar; it's because of the shift to their own M-series chips. The first MacBook Pro with the M1 processor (the one I'm typing on right now) still has a touch bar, the 13'' MBP with an M2 does so too. The touch bar also wasn't that universally hated, a lot of people complained about the escape-button not being physical anymore, which they changed a generation later and people took issue with the missing physical controls for brightness, etc. which is completely understandable, yet after a few months with a touch bar macbook maximum, users know exactly, where the buttons for sound and brightness are and can use the sliders that are available on the touch bar faster than the physical buttons. All in all, the touch bar obviously isn't a great new thing, but for me and probably many others, it's also not worse than the physcal buttons found on the newer MacBooks.
Very true on the M1 gen macs, however from online sentiment (and reviews of the 1st gen M1 MPros) the majority of people (myself included) prefer the physical buttons
@@enricotartarotti For the brightness and volume controls I really miss the sliders the touch bar offered. Most people treated those as buttons (even DankPods complained about it) but they're modal and will switch to a slider if you keep them pressed! The 13" M1 with a touch bar but also a physical escape key was a perfect setup for me. 14" M1 now though, my wife gets to enjoy touching the bar. 🙂
Touch bar would be a piece of art if it didn’t replace function keys, because touch bar hide brightness function and other functions when there’s something else to show, which is my problem with them
one of my best (recent) computer purchase was a 7 button macropad from aliexpress, 7 extra buttons on my desk that I can customise to do exactly what I want all my audio is controlled with physical knobs and it's infinitely more reliable than handling volume through software just make my life way easier and more convenient
5:58 I love that you mentioned that becouse that's something that acually happened, some game cards had extra buttons or other features on them, first one that comes to my mind was guitar hero one that doubles as a controller, but there were other gimmicks too
I grew up with psp, android tablet and an old laptop until I got smartphone and proper more powerful laptop I could play games on, so I guess that's why I prefer physical keyboard or controller laying on my lap, but digital interface strictly touch friendly. Damn, I need to buy 2 in 1 laptop to try something
Good point, the UI develops beyond an interface. The pinch-for-zoom feature is just part of a digital image. Good userInterfaces work without looking at them. E.g. swiping, pinching, double and triple tap, nfc tags built in smartphone holders, voice commands.
The audio in the beginning of the video is poorly mixed and it was REALLY distracting, so much so that I am leaving a comment which I almost never do. Love you Enrico.
There should be a distinction between having buttons and being task-dedicated (i.e. an appliance). I don't like, for example, phones, which could do anything really but the OS is too dumb. And I actually want a real keyboard on my phone.
Screens get 100% of the front facr now, not because a software-defined input system is better, but because these devices have changed from primarily being tools, to primarily being media consumption (and advertising) consoles.
strange how military devices like mfd 'multi function displays' offered a good compromise for decades by giving you context sensitive buttons around a multi purpose screen. haptics are much underutilized and underdeveloped nowadays. i litmus test for me is: can i operate something without looking or one handed. not that i am disabled, but considering these things it makes for a better product in the end.
I have a microwave oven that comes with a color LCD and a touchscreen, but also with physical buttons like Start and Cancel. By design it always start by using the physical button, after setting timer or choosing preset from the touchscreen.
Remember, when 5 years ago everyone were thinking that the future where replace physical buttons with touch areas, or using the terms that tech used solid state buttons, even if the public were against it. And when everyone thought apple were preparing a sealed iPhone without ports or buttons, only using wireless charging and solid state buttons. And I think apple were really thinking about it but because they now can't, because EU obligating USB-C, Apple decided to go all in holes and buttons.
That was an amazing video And yeah the end hook is surely something to talk about Hey if you can provide the links research articles it would be wonderful Love from India ✌🏻
as marc andreessen stated 2011 already: "software is eating the world" nobody owns a calculator, but students, who are going to write an exam and are not allowed to use their calculator on the smartphone.. xD
To be honest both are nice. Watching picture on Ipad feels fluid and tactile but so does using keyboard on computer feels more better than digital swipe typing or predicted. Mechanical keyboard is a different thing , I don't even game on them but I'm addicted to typing. I start , can't stop. So yeah physical buttons release dopamine a lot , something , deeply satisfying about real buttons.
I miss the days where you don't have to park at a random highway to interact with the infotainment because it is a driving hazard. I regret selling my old car with physical buttons and a dial. Those things were MORE helpful when driving.
Watching this reminded me of Ren and Stimpy episode "Space Madness" with the big red "history eraser button." ua-cam.com/video/GvDCgR_9-fE/v-deo.html Yeah I don't think I could resist that big red shiny button either.
You are on track when asking about probably being wrong when we believe a knob is preferred just because we were raised in a tactile interaction realm with tech... In my experience with Mechanical Keyboards and that WOW moment a "pixelennial" (TM) gets in contact with them says: - There is no doubt we are going back -. And I bet it will be literally brutal, as any fashion trend is.. at least in the beginning, as such - back to basics - trend wave usually is... So I think there will not only be buttons and knobs but exceptionally satisfying feedback joy BUTTONS and KNOBS, not a single one without encoder clicks! and SLIDERS... and so on.. never to the point as Glarses' keyboard jacket, NO! .. so, yes, the darn guy is right! but don't tell him.. he might not know it (being part of a revolution) and raise like an amateurly poured cheap beer in a mediocrely cooled thick glass! Oh! and don't mention the words "oversized keyboard" in his presence... EVER! Good job man!
Questo video è buonissimo! Grazie mille per il tuo contenuto. Con amore da Israele. Secondo me il feedback tattile è molto importante per il nostro tech di essere comodo.
that was because it was an AI chatbot, the reviews actually said the physical design is fine. It was designed by the company that designed Playdate and made the musical keyboard at 9:00
One important point about cars - physical controls are safer. After about a month, you develop a muscle memory for the control panel. With touchscreens that is impossible. One has to take his eyes off the road to actually manipulate the central dash controls.
More than muscle memory, it's the ability to kind of caress the keys for finding their exact location. Basically you recognize the key by shape, and then you can press it. Which of course on a touchscreen cannot be done
And also, no one can change where the physical button is by updating the version of software in your car. On a touchscreen? Who knows where that one setting you need is now :)
It was touchscreens in cars that made me become aware of the need for physical interfaces in our lives. Probably because driving is such an important, dangerous situation that you really notice it.
Yes! I still remember my first time driving a Tesla and on the first drive I already realized how distracting and dangerous touchscreen was. Especially on Teslas where you don't even have a speedometer visible without looking at passanger toes. Also the car going wuuwii alarm for even keeping both feet at pedals like you are supposed to be alert driver??? Then it started raining and the rain sensors were shit. I was unable to find windshield viper controls and I had to drive distracted with limited visibility trying to find controls for it. Never found it. PHYSICAL controls are important! Luckily some manufacturers like VW already admitted that removing all important physical controls as a cost saving move was a mistake and they will be spending the money on important physical controls again!
I must be unusual in that I much prefer the touch screen to physical buttons. The the ipad and the Tesla are my favourite tech
Bring back physical tech. Not against apps or anything, but tactile devices are a different experience altogether.
Even when I clicked the like on this comment, and my tactic engine vibrated it made me think me that
All fine until you get people complaining "it could have been an app"
Pressing a physical button is satisfying in a way that pressing a digital button isn't.
@@Lilleh__ One big reason why mechanical keyboards made a comeback and people are ready to pay a huge price to use it.
most underated channel right now. Intereseting as fuck stuff in each and every video
Appreciate it! 🙏
Are we all going to ignore the fact the thumbnail shows a gameboy advance game playing on a gameboy colour? What savagery is this?
This is the observation that gives me faith.
Enrico is Tartar-over.
Busted.
Explaination:
- Gameboy advance SP was my first gameboy (bought it by saving up my own money) and I played pokemon ruby to death so I am quite attached to it
- but Gameboy color is more aesthetic (and purple)
@@enricotartarotti We all forgive you. Thank you for the great content man! And 3rd gen was peak pokemon, nice to speak with someone who also probably spent weeks or months wandering if Mirage island was actually F'n real or not!
@@enricotartarottiOké, leuk.
Because there needs to be balance between touch and physical. I want a qwerty keyboard for phone so much
My 2 cents: does a phone need a button? no. Should a glovebox be opened from a screen that might not be anywhere near it without any means to open it directly? Also no. Some buttons can be made away with, but some shouldn't be moved and eliminates/ How do you decide which is which? you ask yourself what's more convenient. And you go button by button. If a physical button is preferable you keep it. If it's not you remove it. If it's simpler to use a physical button you keep it, if not you remove it. Simpler for the consumer that is.
Your videos are amazing bro.
I can see the hard work you put into them and I just want to say thank you and keep on going.
You got this!
Years ago, going bitmap + touch felt like "progress". Now, more and more, it looks like a lack of design mind and capabilities. "let's ship it as is, we'll fix this later".
i love buttons and switched back to an Flip Phone (but with Android)
The Nord Stage Keyboard is exactly what you are talking about, and it's my favorite keyboard that I have ever used because it is physical and digital at the same time
Give me a physical keyboard. I hate soft keyboards. I had a blackberry (powered by android) all the way up to 2020. I texted so much faster, had way fewer errors, could compose grammatically correct emails, I could even reasonably edit documents in a pinch. Soft keyboards feel like texting drunk no matter how I set it up and no I'm not in my 50s or 60s.
Loved it! One of the best videos you made recently 😊
I was SOOOO excited to see a giant wheel at the back of CMF Phone. Oh my god a wheel that can control volume, scroll etc. It was a gimmick. I'm still mad about it
GOOD. I REALLY hope this trend continues both with hardware and software. Reject minimalism. Embrace detail and skeuomorphism.
I was showing a lad at work my 30 year old 'special interest' mags; he loved them.
I'm a software designer, and you made the video I have wanted to make (or at least write an article about) for years-and you really nailed the argument! Thank you for speaking to my heart.
about the touch bar part: the MacBooks from 2020 and onwards were not praised that much because Apple got rid of the touch bar; it's because of the shift to their own M-series chips. The first MacBook Pro with the M1 processor (the one I'm typing on right now) still has a touch bar, the 13'' MBP with an M2 does so too. The touch bar also wasn't that universally hated, a lot of people complained about the escape-button not being physical anymore, which they changed a generation later and people took issue with the missing physical controls for brightness, etc. which is completely understandable, yet after a few months with a touch bar macbook maximum, users know exactly, where the buttons for sound and brightness are and can use the sliders that are available on the touch bar faster than the physical buttons. All in all, the touch bar obviously isn't a great new thing, but for me and probably many others, it's also not worse than the physcal buttons found on the newer MacBooks.
Very true on the M1 gen macs, however from online sentiment (and reviews of the 1st gen M1 MPros) the majority of people (myself included) prefer the physical buttons
@@enricotartarotti For the brightness and volume controls I really miss the sliders the touch bar offered. Most people treated those as buttons (even DankPods complained about it) but they're modal and will switch to a slider if you keep them pressed! The 13" M1 with a touch bar but also a physical escape key was a perfect setup for me. 14" M1 now though, my wife gets to enjoy touching the bar. 🙂
Touch bar would be a piece of art if it didn’t replace function keys, because touch bar hide brightness function and other functions when there’s something else to show, which is my problem with them
one of my best (recent) computer purchase was a 7 button macropad from aliexpress, 7 extra buttons on my desk that I can customise to do exactly what I want
all my audio is controlled with physical knobs and it's infinitely more reliable than handling volume through software
just make my life way easier and more convenient
5:58 I love that you mentioned that becouse that's something that acually happened, some game cards had extra buttons or other features on them, first one that comes to my mind was guitar hero one that doubles as a controller, but there were other gimmicks too
This is a really great video ♥
man, every time, the videos here feature of exactly what I'm thinking about. Something not so actionable, but more introspective
Your videos are so creatively written. You always find a way to find topics that are a treat for curious minds.
My boy delivers video after video 👏splendid!
It seems unbelievable that a 152k sub channel is able to produce such well edited, well presented, well articulated vids. Va bene Enrico, Va bene. 🤝🏻
This is such an underrated channel.
I grew up with psp, android tablet and an old laptop until I got smartphone and proper more powerful laptop I could play games on, so I guess that's why I prefer physical keyboard or controller laying on my lap, but digital interface strictly touch friendly. Damn, I need to buy 2 in 1 laptop to try something
me trying to zoom on a real photo: 💀🤔💀
Good point, the UI develops beyond an interface. The pinch-for-zoom feature is just part of a digital image. Good userInterfaces work without looking at them. E.g. swiping, pinching, double and triple tap, nfc tags built in smartphone holders, voice commands.
I am extremely agree with you and i understand your point. What i don't understand is your excesive use of chromatic aberratin
Super underrated channel! Shocked you don't have more subs! Keep it up!
The audio in the beginning of the video is poorly mixed and it was REALLY distracting, so much so that I am leaving a comment which I almost never do. Love you Enrico.
boohoo?
Have you tried not being that autistic?
Sperg alert
huh
I didn't mind it, at least with headphones on
8:36 and 9:35 are the best examples of crossing new tech with traditional and tactile interfaces
MAKE TECH PHYSICAL AGAIN 🗣🔥
There should be a distinction between having buttons and being task-dedicated (i.e. an appliance). I don't like, for example, phones, which could do anything really but the OS is too dumb. And I actually want a real keyboard on my phone.
Screens get 100% of the front facr now, not because a software-defined input system is better, but because these devices have changed from primarily being tools, to primarily being media consumption (and advertising) consoles.
strange how military devices like mfd 'multi function displays' offered a good compromise for decades by giving you context sensitive buttons around a multi purpose screen. haptics are much underutilized and underdeveloped nowadays. i litmus test for me is: can i operate something without looking or one handed. not that i am disabled, but considering these things it makes for a better product in the end.
Convenient and cheaper, but I wish buttons came back, specially in cars
I’m using iPhone SE 2020 just for having Home button…
I have a microwave oven that comes with a color LCD and a touchscreen, but also with physical buttons like Start and Cancel. By design it always start by using the physical button, after setting timer or choosing preset from the touchscreen.
With XR/AR, the physical world can became digitally interactive, making controllers unnecessary (or making everything a controller)
Remember, when 5 years ago everyone were thinking that the future where replace physical buttons with touch areas, or using the terms that tech used solid state buttons, even if the public were against it. And when everyone thought apple were preparing a sealed iPhone without ports or buttons, only using wireless charging and solid state buttons. And I think apple were really thinking about it but because they now can't, because EU obligating USB-C, Apple decided to go all in holes and buttons.
That was an amazing video
And yeah the end hook is surely something to talk about
Hey if you can provide the links research articles it would be wonderful
Love from India ✌🏻
I will always be angry with the the switch from buttons to screens on the car dashboards.
Its just not it IMO.
Yore simply one of the best channels on YT
Awesome video and channel! Subscibed straight away!
I think the intro musical beats overpower your voice btw
Cool video
Nice video
For f*cks sake Sony, give us an Xperia play 2
as marc andreessen stated 2011 already: "software is eating the world"
nobody owns a calculator, but students, who are going to write an exam and are not allowed to use their calculator on the smartphone.. xD
AYYEE SHOUT OUT TO THE DROOP SNOOT PLANE!!!
(the concord)
"Replaced atoms with pixels" pixels are made of atoms bro dont piss me off
👍
yes physically in a final product but they are not inherent to the conceptual idea of a pixel the same way they are in a physical object
Absolute banger of a thumbnail
No buttons, no ergonomy.
6:15 should have played the vasuce theme
io sono sempre stato un amante delle tastiere fisiche, ho tenuto il blackbarry finché ho potuto prima di switchare ad iPhone
iPod 5th Gen was the perfect balance of digital and physical
To be honest both are nice. Watching picture on Ipad feels fluid and tactile but so does using keyboard on computer feels more better than digital swipe typing or predicted. Mechanical keyboard is a different thing , I don't even game on them but I'm addicted to typing. I start , can't stop. So yeah physical buttons release dopamine a lot , something , deeply satisfying about real buttons.
I still use a MacBook with the Touch Bar. I am really sad they went away from it
"What Happened To Physical Tech?"
Nothing. I'm using a Steam deck OLED
I miss the days where you don't have to park at a random highway to interact with the infotainment because it is a driving hazard. I regret selling my old car with physical buttons and a dial. Those things were MORE helpful when driving.
Watching this reminded me of Ren and Stimpy episode "Space Madness" with the big red "history eraser button."
ua-cam.com/video/GvDCgR_9-fE/v-deo.html
Yeah I don't think I could resist that big red shiny button either.
I like this guy.
I always wish all Android phones would have shoulder buttons for gaming
6:15 occasione sprecatissima di far partire il tema di Vsauce! 😭😆
Interesting.. is it the same for children that were born in 2015+, when we already had touchscreens everywhere
You are on track when asking about probably being wrong when we believe a knob is preferred just because we were raised in a tactile interaction realm with tech...
In my experience with Mechanical Keyboards and that WOW moment a "pixelennial" (TM) gets in contact with them says:
- There is no doubt we are going back -. And I bet it will be literally brutal, as any fashion trend is.. at least in the beginning, as such - back to basics - trend wave usually is... So I think there will not only be buttons and knobs but exceptionally satisfying feedback joy BUTTONS and KNOBS, not a single one without encoder clicks! and SLIDERS... and so on.. never to the point as Glarses' keyboard jacket, NO! .. so, yes, the darn guy is right! but don't tell him.. he might not know it (being part of a revolution) and raise like an amateurly poured cheap beer in a mediocrely cooled thick glass!
Oh! and don't mention the words "oversized keyboard" in his presence... EVER!
Good job man!
so TUI is the future :)
Not better, never better
Belle le immagini del piccolo Enrico.
Questo video è buonissimo!
Grazie mille per il tuo contenuto.
Con amore da Israele.
Secondo me il feedback tattile è molto importante per il nostro tech di essere comodo.
Bring back the headphone jack than.. 🤔
Hi, keyboard enthusiast here, I like buttons. Nice video tho
give me more buttons
I wish i had a gameboy but im broke so the emulator is my only option
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The Touch Bar was so great. I hate the function keys
think so too, it was amazing idea and implementation. just additionally and not replacing the function keys
@@dmtr404 YES EXACTLY
@@dmtr404 every person who wanted the function keys could enable it in the settings anyway
It looked like there was enough space for a row of half-size function keys and esc/del, AND the touch bar. But they never did it.
Where is your hat?
Modular Synthesizer.
🫠
real buttons are just more satifying.
Hey I can create your thumbnail with more appealing and click-worthy. Give me a chance.....
rabbit r1 is new physical tech and everyone hated it
That was because it was overpriced and barely usable, not because it was a single purpose physical device.
that was because it was an AI chatbot, the reviews actually said the physical design is fine. It was designed by the company that designed Playdate and made the musical keyboard at 9:00
lazy vid