Secrets of Icarius (AKA Flipshot) in the MOTU Classics toy line from Mattel. Space hero toy!

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  • @MistaJonz
    @MistaJonz 3 роки тому +8

    A lot of times I feel like I’m one of the few people who ABSOLUTELY loved NA He-Man. The whole aesthetic, the music, the designs...something about it spoke to me and to this day it’s still my favorite and I watch the DVD sets constantly. Flipshot was also my favorite character in the show and when the Classics figure was released I did not hesitate to grab it! I do wish we got a Classics version of the armored Skeletor still. Great video as always, Scott!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +4

      Oh it has its fans. Just not at Mattel. ;-P

    • @vermis8344
      @vermis8344 3 роки тому +1

      I don't have strong memories of it, but I do remember Skeletor being very different from his original version, including being way more chill and quippy. Strangely, I was more than okay with that.

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому +2

      @@vermis8344 Yeah, I thought the NA Skeletor was quite charismatic. He could sucker you in by being charming, then turn into a stone-cold psycho or raging monster in an eye-blink.

  • @emptycanvas79
    @emptycanvas79 3 роки тому +2

    Hit it out of the ballpark again, only you could inform us with your insight at Mattel. Thank you for bringing light to our childhood friends..!

  • @rodster6campingprepper
    @rodster6campingprepper 3 роки тому +2

    I'm so glad we got Darius and Mara. Darius along with Batros and Calix were my big wants from Classics when it came to characters that hadn't had toys before. I just wish we'd gotten the rest of NA.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah we got to as lot but their was so much more we could have done

    • @rodster6campingprepper
      @rodster6campingprepper 3 роки тому +1

      @@spectorcreative1872 Darius was a pretty central character in the UK comics so I'm glad you gave him priority over some of the others.

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому

      I think my personal Wish List for MOTUC still had over 100 items on it when the line trailed off. Crossing all available fingers for a relaunch in 2028 . . . .

    • @rodster6campingprepper
      @rodster6campingprepper 3 роки тому +1

      @@Beedo_Sookcool I mainly just want the rest of NA, General Tataran and the Horde Invaders three pack. How frustrated I was that we kept getting three packs I didn't want but never got those Horde Invaders!

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому

      @@rodster6campingprepper Yup, they were on my List, too.
      My three biggest wants were (and still are) Melaktha, Dragoon, and Kothos.

  • @sunnyshine2215
    @sunnyshine2215 3 роки тому +2

    I love new adventures and was so glad they showed up on Classics, was always fun to see how they would turn out and what parts they would use. Gutted we didn’t see Staghorn in the line though!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +3

      I so would have liked if we could have done more!

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому

      Yeah, the lack of Lizorr was the biggest disappointment for me, followed closely behind by lack of Staghorn.

    • @sunnyshine2215
      @sunnyshine2215 3 роки тому +1

      @@Beedo_Sookcool yes Lizzor! Always forgot about him and he would have been an easy one to do

  • @Canoby
    @Canoby 3 роки тому +2

    I slept on New Adventures back in the day, but looking at these designs I can't blame people for loving these guys. Cartoon characterization aside, this guy does make for a dashing looking customer

  • @Southpaw-qf4ju
    @Southpaw-qf4ju 3 роки тому +3

    I was never a fan of New Adventures. I tried to get into it with my son, but we weren't feeling it. That said, I appreciate how it fits in with Classics' continuity.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      My thoughts as well!

    • @charlespetrie5757
      @charlespetrie5757 3 роки тому

      I've not watched any of the episodes but the one good thing was him admitting his identity to his parents in the first episode before he left.

  • @SweatpantsJoeGames
    @SweatpantsJoeGames 3 роки тому +2

    I had 5 characters when I was a kid and I think I got He-Man and Slush Head in a 2 pack that came with a VHS of the first episode. To this day that’s still the only episode I’ve ever watched of this line. I don’t think it ever aired where I grew up.

  • @WiiMan25
    @WiiMan25 3 роки тому +2

    I've only seen maybe two episodes of NA in my entire life, but I always thought this guy's space suit looked cool. And with that little backstory on his design originating with Major Matt Mason and Big Jim, I have so much more respect for Flicarius over here. Lucky that he's one of the easier Classics figures to find relatively cheap.
    In my head, or in my personal canon really, his real name is Icarius (as on the bio), but "Flipshot" was his attempt at a superhero-style codename. He kept trying to get his friends to call him that like he was a superhero, and they eventually gave in just to shut him up about it.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah the NA stuff doesn't go for that much on the secondary market

  • @williamthompson5504
    @williamthompson5504 3 роки тому +1

    I just got Galactic Skeletor on bbts for $20. At first I got it mainly for the extra Faker head. However, I LOVE the Skeletor now. Already ordered He-Ro 2. Scott, you did a bang up job on MOTUC. I wish I had bought Scareglow, but I was trying to keep JLU going. Optik is a badass figure and so “toyetic “.

  • @bonebreakingaction6815
    @bonebreakingaction6815 3 роки тому

    Never seen that big jim " trap jaw" blew my mind. I love this channel. I don't have any MOTU I got to many other collections eating my wallet so this channel helps me get a little He- Man fix.

  • @samuelmeasa9283
    @samuelmeasa9283 3 роки тому +2

    Never saw an episode when it first aired. It came on while I was in school and my sisters had a preference for Lassie on Nickelodeon.

  • @captainjacksparrow8490
    @captainjacksparrow8490 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you tons! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @manicmike3952
    @manicmike3952 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the vid as always and what a trip. I have him in my watch list in eBay... lol

  • @rodster6campingprepper
    @rodster6campingprepper 3 роки тому +1

    I always just thought of Icarius as his real name and Flipshot as his superhero/code name.

  • @MadDragon-lb7qg
    @MadDragon-lb7qg 3 роки тому +2

    I thought he looked like Val as soon as I saw him!!!!

  • @JeffTheFutureJaros
    @JeffTheFutureJaros 3 роки тому +1

    I actually had every figure, & the ship that my Dad got me for xmas that year, thinking the line would takeoff, unfortunately I wasn't too into them myself compared to the original line, & it faded out quickly. Great Vid as usual Guru.

  • @JurassicRod
    @JurassicRod 3 роки тому +1

    NA is a far better series than it gets credit for. It was just such a departure from the Filmation series. But as a little side adventure before returning to Eternia and the classic characters it's a really interesting corner of the Masters universe with an interesting bunch of characters. I wish we'd gotten them all in classics.

  • @korydoe4813
    @korydoe4813 3 роки тому +3

    I really wish we could have gotten at least figures of all the characters that were made in the vintage run of this line. I'm great full for what we got but there were about 12 more figures we needed to get the whole roster

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +3

      That was the plan, but the new team wasn't interested in keeping it going

  • @robdrabkowski2708
    @robdrabkowski2708 3 роки тому +1

    I'm hoping that Masterverse will address the NA guys we didn't get in Classics!
    I noticed something interesting about that picture you showed of Captain Lazer. It's the same body that Mattel ended up using for the vintage 12 inch Cylon Centurion figure, only they added the removable chrome chest plate, the new head, and a new clear barrel on the light-up pistol hand! Now that's recycling!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      As for Masterverse, here are my thoughts: ua-cam.com/video/CpKaNJ_HPTQ/v-deo.html

  • @redcomet_622
    @redcomet_622 3 роки тому

    I saw him at a Big Lots years ago. Didnt pick him up as I didn't know who the hell he was, but I did recognize the MOTUC branding

  • @gerrysabron
    @gerrysabron 3 роки тому +1

    have this figure, don't know him, but he's cool looking, got two more of these during the BL sale to build an air force unit..nice information on character, thanks.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah he is one of those figures that really gets away with just looking cool

    • @gerrysabron
      @gerrysabron 3 роки тому +1

      @@spectorcreative1872 what i like more you all did in matty was giving them alternate head sculpts, so it was great to have a little army of them flanking Randor, Adam or Man at arms

  • @rodrickadamginsburg8960
    @rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 роки тому +1

    I am really glad I went back and gave it a 2nd chance!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      Meaning Flipshot or the channel?

    • @rodrickadamginsburg8960
      @rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 роки тому +1

      @@spectorcreative1872 New Adventures of He-man.... I got into it when they released the series on DVD in brick set. I remember seeing the toys as a kid at TRU, Macy’s, and so forth and thinking what the heck is this? But when it came to DVD, it was about time I gave it a chance and was glad I did. I just recently rewatched it colinceidently. Loved the toy from the get go and the same with your channel. With our shared heritage I have even greater appreciation for our “ancestral” ;) blend of humor....

  • @Beedo_Sookcool
    @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому

    Great video! Thank you! Naming Icarius after his biggest fan -- well, that was just excellent.
    I got three NA figures when I was a kid (Optikk, and the He-Man / Slushhead 2-Pack), but I just didn't take to the new line. They looked nothing like the original MOTU in size or style, so I gave up on them. But bring them into the 21st Century and get the Four Horsemen Studios to sculpt them so they'll fit in with the rest of the MOTU Classics? Yes, please! And you can add my name to the list of people disappointed by not getting the entire NA roster produced.

  • @darkwoods1954
    @darkwoods1954 3 роки тому +1

    Still gutted we didn't get all the Galactic Guardians and Mutants.

  • @andrewgrant2990
    @andrewgrant2990 3 роки тому +1

    It is so amazing how so much is connected to He-Man! Now how do I go about getting a 6 Degrees of MoTu game made? Thanks for bringing such interesting things to light. Also, it's nice to see some respect given to some black sheep from time to time- shows respect & care for the overall brand!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      In Classics everything gets turn

    • @andrewgrant2990
      @andrewgrant2990 3 роки тому

      @@spectorcreative1872 Well now that you mention it, any real insight why 1 shot characters get toys, but Evil Lynn's reoccurring disguise from the original cartoom didn't?

  • @vermis8344
    @vermis8344 3 роки тому

    8:44 "Don't look, Marion! Shut your eyes! Whatever you do, don't look at it!"

  • @aesopfrogox4310
    @aesopfrogox4310 3 роки тому

    You guys did awesomely on this line. Lizorr, or is it Lizzor ( ? ) , is the only one not yet made that I’d buy the crap out of 😃

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      If only we could have gotten to him. We went with Karatii instead

  • @AintNobodyAtAll
    @AintNobodyAtAll 3 роки тому +1

    Ever notice there's a lot of _az names? Saz, Gaz, Kaz... Anyway, outside of Palace Guards, I probably have more Icarius figures that any other. I bought many copies of him to take parts from and make Galactic Protector-style nameless army men. Even if you don't love the character or the source material, he's just an undeniably cool looking figure. He has the retro-future thing going too, with those Jetsons-style ridges around his shoulders. He looks like he could be an in-universe superhero in the Fallout series of computer games.

  • @JeffTheFutureJaros
    @JeffTheFutureJaros 3 роки тому

    I'd love to have some of these Big Jim figures in box, but I bet they are worth a small fortune by now.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      Ehh, Big Jim is only popular in Mexico now

    • @JeffTheFutureJaros
      @JeffTheFutureJaros 3 роки тому

      @@spectorcreative1872 hmm, i'll have to actually get on ebay & check it out then!

  • @JeffTheFutureJaros
    @JeffTheFutureJaros 3 роки тому

    Tuskador has to be my favorite looking character out of the New Adventures line.

  • @superjoe7
    @superjoe7 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Scott possible new video topic, what is exactly the fine line with happy accidents with regards to likeness rights. What would have happened for example if the 4HM decided to sculpt flipshot with a bill murray looking head or for fun sake at the time to make a head that could’ve reminded you of Dolph Lunderin or would that have been too close a connection to the property to raise way too many red flags. Does this mean any potential celeb face can be made as a happy accident if that person has zero connection to a property?

  • @owenwildish331
    @owenwildish331 3 роки тому

    'New Adventures' is so underrated & Skeletor was an awesome character in this, I think the problem with the cartoon was that it really didn't transition from the Filmation series with the original 'MOTU' characters looking a bit too different from their 'Filmation' look (especially) in the first episode, thus it didn't feel like it a 'proper' continuation (this may have been a similar factor with the 'New Adventures' toys, being a smaller scale to the 'MOTU' toys). I also feel it was such a shame that when they rebooted (and then cancelled) the 'MOTU' series in 2000-2005, that they didn't eventually continue into their version of the 'New Adventures' era as part of the reboot series and have that transition between eras, I wonder what that would've looked like if they did..?

  • @robertwishin2868
    @robertwishin2868 3 роки тому +1

    There is no way the Horsemen didn't know that was Val Kilmer when they sculpted him.

  • @nicksavia3581
    @nicksavia3581 3 роки тому

    Gah! I had a yard sale purchased Captain Laser as a kid in the late 80s, early 90s. I loved that thing but I always wondered what it actually was.

  • @gentrybridgeman5801
    @gentrybridgeman5801 3 роки тому

    Scott! You are still dangerous, but you can be my wingman anytime!

  • @Razalonjrt1
    @Razalonjrt1 3 роки тому +1

    I would like to see an updated version of New Adventures maybe then Skeletor will not look so comical maybe more like his Classic Toy, Intersting thing taking a toy line idea and reusing it over and over again saves on new ideas Never really understood his Name the Flipshot was ok but did not understand Icarius.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      Icarius was used in Europe because Flipshot is an english word.

  • @RetroActionUK
    @RetroActionUK 3 роки тому

    Flipshot should be one of The Centurions. “They’re smaller.” But hey at least they got rid of the rubber joints!

  • @ScareglowSkull
    @ScareglowSkull 3 роки тому

    Wow I didn’t know this guy was a comic relief. My first contact with NA was a friend who bought a He-Man figure in Europe around 1996. Otherwise it was almost non existent in Argentina

  • @MrColuber
    @MrColuber 3 роки тому +2

    If Icarius is going to be made to look like Val Kilmer, you could at least include a CD of Nick Rivers' greatest hits, from Skeet Surfing to Spend this Night With Me. And a Nigel in a cow suit to serve as his foe.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +2

      Clearly a missed opportunity

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому

      Cripes, "Top Secret!" There's a movie you don't hear talked about very often! I think the only reason I know about it was because my buddy Chris brought it to my attention. And THAT was only because my real name is . . . >sigh< . . . Nigel. Having said that, "Top Secret!" followed by "Brain Donors" -- the world's greatest double-feature for side-splittingly hilarious ballet comedy!

  • @rodrickadamginsburg8960
    @rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 роки тому +1

    13K 🍾🎊

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +2

      Crazy! Your support is always appreciated Rodrick

    • @rodrickadamginsburg8960
      @rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 роки тому +1

      @@spectorcreative1872 My pleasure and your acknowledgment of it is equally appreciated! Us Mensch’s have to stick together O:)

  • @woolicane
    @woolicane 3 роки тому

    I always wondered if there was any influence on flipshot from ace mccloud from centurions. I know that toyline was kenner, so unlikely there was much designer crossover, but they are similar in design I think

  • @tmthor
    @tmthor 3 роки тому

    I am surprised there was not a classics Big Jim line to go with the Masters since many things came From there

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      I kinda was too! We did try for Major Matt!
      ua-cam.com/video/V9S7bT-xlj8/v-deo.html

  • @geechie-don7157
    @geechie-don7157 3 роки тому

    New Adventures grew on me. Initially, upon seeing it, it had the same effect as when they killed Optimus Prime! But something about that Skeletor really peaked my interest.

  • @ginodescalzi6476
    @ginodescalzi6476 3 роки тому

    Hi, I´m a new follower. I would like to suggest two topics:
    One about 3.75" figures (I used to collect the Marvel Universe line and G.I.Joe) there are not so many well articulated figures on that scale nowadays.
    And other about international action figures distribution (because finding adult collectors action figures outside the U.S is not so easy, specially the exclusives).
    Greetings from Perú.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      I'm pretty much wrapped with videos on the DCUC eaves, but I can certainly do a video about the details you mentioned. As for international, see here and let me know if more is needed and I can do a follow up: ua-cam.com/video/HwTHhKZOvoE/v-deo.html

  • @hardact2follow663
    @hardact2follow663 3 роки тому

    That Astros Big Jim figure, looks a lot like Man-E-Faces from MOTU.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      Big Jim had A LOT to do with the visuals for MOTU: ua-cam.com/video/g4W1r_TAs5M/v-deo.html

  • @uliwitness
    @uliwitness 3 роки тому

    I loved Icarius despite not being aware of the new TV show at all (maybe it didn't air here?). The reason I wanted the figure was that he looked like Major Hawk Masterson from Captain Power.
    Funnily, I look at the New Adventures figures today and find them clunky and ugly. OTOH the Classics figures look like I remembered them. So, great work on that front!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      Getting all of the figure under one universal look was so important

  • @nocaster5120
    @nocaster5120 3 роки тому

    The backpack on mine never sits straight, always a little crooked. Any ideas for a fix?

  • @rolandkatsuragi
    @rolandkatsuragi 3 роки тому +1

    So in a way, the designs are like Oroborous with how "iterative" things can be?

  • @johnwhiteside4698
    @johnwhiteside4698 3 роки тому

    Jesus I'm glad you said Val Kilmer

  • @FunKorpseZombiePops
    @FunKorpseZombiePops 3 роки тому +2

    That would have been cool, get the rights to make some of the ones never made, and make those now. Lol
    Who is the eyeball guy?

    • @markmichel3855
      @markmichel3855 3 роки тому

      Diaboleun Mods Optik

    • @Beedo_Sookcool
      @Beedo_Sookcool 3 роки тому +1

      Optikk, one of only three NA figures I owned as a kid (the others being He-Man and Slushhead from a special promotional 2-Pack). The original was nifty because it had a wheel on his back you could turn to make his eyeball look around.

    • @FunKorpseZombiePops
      @FunKorpseZombiePops 3 роки тому

      @@markmichel3855 cool thanks for the answer

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      If only we had the resources.

    • @FunKorpseZombiePops
      @FunKorpseZombiePops 3 роки тому +1

      @@spectorcreative1872 yeah lol
      A room full of 3D printers also

  • @inazumanfrash
    @inazumanfrash 3 роки тому

    I feel like if New Adventures was a spin off or its own thing or (maybe in the same universe as Bravestarr instead?) maybe it would have done better? At least the roleplay toys for it did okay and Optikk got to be in MOTUC.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      Hey in hind sight you never know. But as you noted, it did have it's "hits"

  • @JeffTheFutureJaros
    @JeffTheFutureJaros 3 роки тому

    The face they sculpted for this figure looks like Val Kilmer, just an observation.

  • @episodenull
    @episodenull 3 роки тому

    The MOTU version may look like Val Kilmer, but I've always thought the original headsculpt looked like Al Gore.

  • @bobastu
    @bobastu 3 роки тому

    A doll?!? 😱😱😱😱😱 Big Jim were totally action figures!!! Icarius is a cooler name.

  • @ScareglowSkull
    @ScareglowSkull 3 роки тому

    What’s the deal with the Iceman look?? was that a confirmed reference by the 4H??

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      No, they even said it caught them by surprise when they saw it as a toy

  • @Dented_Battle_Armor
    @Dented_Battle_Armor 3 роки тому

    Tuskador video up next!

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +1

      I am doing the videos in figure release order, so he is a little way off

  • @Calaburst
    @Calaburst 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Scott, I'm almost caught up with these classics videos, but I just saw something that might blow your mind, check out Eddie Del Rio's reimagining of MOTU, it's mostly vehicles, but I hope he does more characters as well. The web address is eddiedelrio.com. Take is easy, and keep 'em coming!

  • @danieljeyn9847
    @danieljeyn9847 3 роки тому +1

    There is something wildly mundane about a fisherman action figure?

  • @crimsonvampyre602
    @crimsonvampyre602 3 роки тому

    Zero percent chance of it being coincidence that he looked like Val Kilmer from Top Gun

  • @dignerds
    @dignerds 3 роки тому

    Isn't Eternia in space any way ?

  • @Tim85-y2q
    @Tim85-y2q 3 роки тому +1

    The fact that you weren't able to get to all the NA figures is my one disappointment with Classics. Being born in 85, most of my vintage MOTU figures were hand me downs, so NA is where my memories are as far as buying He-Man figures in the store.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      I do wish we could have kept the line going long enough to do this!

  • @extremesegaa9239
    @extremesegaa9239 3 роки тому

    Sadly all new vids posted tonight don't appeal to me , pixel dan toy bro now this. Give ya a like anyway

  • @wolf-pz4mx
    @wolf-pz4mx Рік тому

    You should of did spinwit

  • @omma911
    @omma911 3 роки тому +1

    I think I was too young when it first aired to really appreciate it, in other words, I didn't like it at all and I've already moved on to Bravestarr ;)

  • @sunnyfrisch
    @sunnyfrisch 3 роки тому

    I can‘t see how/why names like Insyzor work in German. Actually they don‘t. Tuskador or Sagitar would have been fine.

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому

      Hey I wasn't there running the original line, but I did try to use as many of the names as we could!

    • @sunnyfrisch
      @sunnyfrisch 3 роки тому

      @@spectorcreative1872 I meant solely the vintage line, not the classics line. I know that was not your responsibility. Regarding classics I am only disappointed that you did not make a He-Slave figure. ua-cam.com/video/S6vx-OIyuUc/v-deo.html

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 3 роки тому

    Yeah. A figure would have been better served on a real MotU character.

  • @OptimusMonk01
    @OptimusMonk01 3 роки тому

    Ripoff of Ace McCloud

  • @frankpetersen6624
    @frankpetersen6624 3 роки тому

    I hate NA figures! I’d love to take them and throw them in a fireplace! Terrible. Who’s dumb idea was it to incorporate them in the classics line!?

    • @superjoe7
      @superjoe7 3 роки тому +2

      If you don’t want them I’ll pay the shipping and take them off your hands 😁

    • @spectorcreative1872
      @spectorcreative1872  3 роки тому +2

      I will own that dumb idea all the way to my collection!

    • @frankpetersen6624
      @frankpetersen6624 3 роки тому

      @@spectorcreative1872 Oh they’re just terrible. Please tell me you weren’t a fan of that horrendous series? When I was young I couldn’t get past episode one. As an adult it was that much harder to watch! Queen Marlena with BLUE hair? Our luck, the classics line will be revived and we’ll get a blue haired queen Marlena!

    • @frankpetersen6624
      @frankpetersen6624 3 роки тому

      @@superjoe7 well, when I go through them one day, I will definitely be selling them in one big light . All brand new in their boxes on eBay. I should have gotten rid of this worthless trash long ago!