This takes me back, these were the first servers I worked on. They served us for years running file servers and Lotus Notes servers. I remember investigating slow down on one server only to find that a colleague had enabled a pretty intensive screen saver!
I remember hearing a story about scientists scanning old computers with X-rays to see through the different layers. This was for computer from the 70’s and 80’s. Surprisingly we have little info on how a lot of the older stuff was made and how it works. For every successful business that made computers, there were 10 that failed and their knowledge went with it. A lot of the people who worked on and designed the first generations of computers are dying off. Glad some people are looking at what came before.
People would look at images or copy fabrication masks to try and copy/reverse engineer processor design (USSR, China, etc). I think you are wrong on having little info on how older stuff works. It isn't that old and hobbyist are still recreating old CPU designs (NuXT, Commander X16, AltairKit, many 6502s from a breadboard, etc). Documentation was great back then and a home micro would come with a book teaching you how to program it. I am in my early 40s and know the computer in the video inside/out from when I was a young sysadmin in the Military. I would like to hope I am not dying off.
There was a PowerEdge 4200 at my first job out of college in 2008. Dual PII server. It belonged to the US Navy as part of a contract. They actually sent someone out to package it on a pallet and sent a truck to pick it up in 2009 as it was no longer needed for the contract (replaced with a PowerEdge 2550 they also owned) and they had it slated to go into production elsewhere.
@@lelandclayton5462 I think the ballbarings are going out on those fans hence the noise :-/. I would look to see if there are modern replacements if I were him
I still have two of these in my garage! They were fully functional on Windows 2000 the last time I booted them years ago. Maybe I'll try turning them on one day! :)
@@RuruFIN It is a handsome case even all these years later. I'm partial to my carbide 500R - been using it a long time or I'd probably have gotten a 740.
@@Dreadnorth7734 exactly what I thought.. the 1996(beige) equivalent to jarry's 2012 rig (barnacles nerdgasm) it does look like a caselabs case though! I agree
I had an old Data General server of the same era, and it was quite a beast, much like this Dell! I don't recall the exact model, but It could take 4 CPUs (it was populated with two 200MHz 512k cache Pentium Pros when I got it), had 256MB of ECC RAM, as well as two IBM 4GB drives. It also had a remote management card, much like Dell's DRAC, or Compaq's "Lights Out" card. I attempted to resurrect it, but realized it was next to impossible. Didn't have any of the original utility software, and parts are especially hard to find. (To upgrade it, I needed more drives and caddies, and VRMs/heatsinks to be able to fully populate the CPU slots.) Ended up parting it out after the drives failed. (This particular server had insanely high hours on it, after all.) At least one of those Pentium Pros I salvaged, along with four of the RAM sticks, ended up being used to resurrect an old Gateway 2000 G6-200 board I found on eBay for $20.
Oh the memories.....i was building those Pentium Pro machines when they were new! As soon as MMX came along the PPro was useless....takes me wayyyy back!
Windows NT was a piece of rock literally. After 95 which I had to reinstall every month(!), NT survived two years without a re-installation. A separate dos process in each console window was an awesome feature.
I love you man this kind of stuff is exactly what needs to be preserved and saved from the dumps I have tried in my life to preserve technology and different things that I and passionate about my life is very hard and I don't have the money and resources to do it you're doing amazing work PS please be careful with those old power supplies you should try taking them to somebody who really knows what they're doing and have them thoroughly examined and or refurbished
I ran three of the Dell PowerEdge 4200 for many, many years. They were very good systems. The only drawback was the stupid SCSI disk trays, that used an "in between" adapter between the disk and the back plane.
Dell PowerEdge are still great to this day, and are my go-to when it's time to build a new server. They're unstoppable tanks that will just keep working for years. Decades, even.
Neat, I have one of these style beasts with quad Slot 2 Xeon, 3 PSUs, and 1GB of EDO. It's an oddball and can make for a solid end table. MSRP could have easily been $10,000 in the 90s.
Pekne spracovane video :) Z prizvuku mi bolo hned jasne, ze budes Cech, a nazov stroja PREROV1 mi to len potvrdil. (a mimochodom prave som sa subscribeol)
I had one of these, well kinda. Back in 2000 I got ahold of the Case and Power Supply. Gutted the Power Supply and popped in the guts from a Rosewill 350Watt Power Supply. Had a AMD K6-2 system in it then upgraded to a Athlon 64 when it first came out. Would of kept the case and probably still be using it but couldn't take it when I moved out and my mother lost the house a year later leaving my huge pile of Retro Computer parts behind. Of course at this time no one was into Retro Computing.
Nice video. I remember this server. Back in the second half of 1990s, I used the PowerEdge 2200 to host around 15 web sites. It was for all the schools in a municipality.
That is one big beast. The sound when you powered on the Dell might be hard on the ears for some, but i found it quite pleasant as it drowned out the ringing in my ears from my tinnitus. Thanks for sharing, and i look forward to seeing this beast in action with the second CPU working. In the meantime, could you benchmark the the system with one CPU in action and then benchmark again when you get the second CPU working and compare the scores??
Hola amigo, buenas tardes; vi tu video y te agradezco por mostrarnos como eran los servidores de aquellos tiempos. yo soy autodidacta de la informática y siempre quise saber como eran esos servidores por dentro; gracias por tu video.
When your IO card needs it's own RISC CPU...interesting that the dev team for that processor eventually went on to work on the Pentium Pro which is also in your system. Cool rig. On boot it sounds like a jet spinning up it's engines. Great old sound.
I used to see a lot of those i960 CPUs in parts bins in the late 90s early 2000s. Lots of dumbasses stripping super expensive SCSI cards for parts not knowing their true worths.
I see a lot of comments on modern silent fan upgrades. I never worked with Dell in those days. I was a Compaq-guy. But anyway, silent machines are nice, but this is a server. The fans are very powerful, probably monitored and very much needed. I have seen some really big servers with fans that no modern gaming machine could be compared with.
@@michaelsasylum I think the bigger change will be base block speeds over core counts. as it'll be cheaper to manufacture, alongside that there's really a practical limit to how many cores you can utilize.
Wow, rare Pentium PRO PC Server but still function at 2019? You are a legend. I still have one kind of CPU, Pentium PRO 200 Mhz from my first server, but only the CPU, all the peripheral already died.
I have the PII version of this one… been in the family since new. Ran my dad’s business from 1998ish to 2003. Then was stored until around 2012 when we moved it to my house where it has sat ever since… I need to get it going again
Now I remember how noisy it was the first SCSI driver I had, it was a Fujitsu u160 18gb: the noise was so loud I had headache after 5 minutes! :) Thanks God they improved the noise in u320 drives :) but now with SSD we complain about fans noise but that's another story :)
whaaat. this comment is totally ridiculous. this DELL PowerEdge 4100's one of two power supply is rated something about 700W. you can install two of them there. so it is absolute peak for the system to drain 1400w from socket. but this specific system drains not more than 300w I suppose. 2x PPro180 = 32w+32w, ~5 scsi HDDs 20-30w each, plus ~50w system board and peripherals... we have 264w, which can be rounded to 300w. the modern era brought us heaters. first - CPUs, next - graphics cards. and today graphics card consumes 75% of system power, and produces 75% of heat. this whole PC consumes something like ONE mid-ranged graphics card of 2019. i am sorry, but i will put it blunt like that.
If you do ever get one please don't throw away the stuff that you would tear out from the inside give it to one of these guys like this so that it can be saved and reserved
I have a custom gaming pc I built that has a case looking exactly like this, its the corsair carbide air 540 cube and it is AMAZING for low thermals! Perfect for overclocking!
"It took me some time to get a 2nd one"... Then shows box full of CPU's, you are a legend.
And the second cpu doesnt even work. LOL
:-)))) Yep from 50 pieces you will get:
45x 200MHz/256
4x 200MHz/512
1x 180Mhz/256
RETRO don't play no shit!
LOL!!!!
@@RETROHardware so, this motherboard handles 2 x 200Mhz processors?
This takes me back, these were the first servers I worked on. They served us for years running file servers and Lotus Notes servers. I remember investigating slow down on one server only to find that a colleague had enabled a pretty intensive screen saver!
yeah : allways disable the 3d screen saver
Why I cringe when I see people destroying rare CPUs for 5 bucks of gold.
n/a n/a rare I’ve got about 30 Pentium pro cpus in my shed
@@jamezxh Thanks for hoarding them all
@@thedude1574 hah yeah bought them for 5 bucks each about 10 years ago from a computer wrecker
they better collect street garbage, it's more profitable
Coz you know the art behind them
I remember hearing a story about scientists scanning old computers with X-rays to see through the different layers. This was for computer from the 70’s and 80’s. Surprisingly we have little info on how a lot of the older stuff was made and how it works. For every successful business that made computers, there were 10 that failed and their knowledge went with it. A lot of the people who worked on and designed the first generations of computers are dying off. Glad some people are looking at what came before.
People would look at images or copy fabrication masks to try and copy/reverse engineer processor design (USSR, China, etc). I think you are wrong on having little info on how older stuff works. It isn't that old and hobbyist are still recreating old CPU designs (NuXT, Commander X16, AltairKit, many 6502s from a breadboard, etc). Documentation was great back then and a home micro would come with a book teaching you how to program it.
I am in my early 40s and know the computer in the video inside/out from when I was a young sysadmin in the Military. I would like to hope I am not dying off.
Russian FSB still make x ray pictures of the electronic boards to find hardware backdoors.
There was a PowerEdge 4200 at my first job out of college in 2008. Dual PII server. It belonged to the US Navy as part of a contract. They actually sent someone out to package it on a pallet and sent a truck to pick it up in 2009 as it was no longer needed for the contract (replaced with a PowerEdge 2550 they also owned) and they had it slated to go into production elsewhere.
The 4200 uses the Pentium II instead of Pentium Pro. (The 2200 is the single-CPU version)
That noise is haunting. It reminds me of the quantum bigfoot drives.
Reminds me of the Seagate ST-225, Had two of them in a 386 once. Sounded like a jet the whole time.
@@lelandclayton5462 I think the ballbarings are going out on those fans hence the noise :-/. I would look to see if there are modern replacements if I were him
Still have my Quantum Bigfoot in a closet somewhere. Need to power it up to check whether it still works.
@@chrwl007 could you imagine how scary it would sound with ssd's running in it then the fan noise would be the most noticeable thing about it instead
That noise is awesome. I adore SCSI.
Wow, I haven't seen a Conner HDD in decades. What a trip down nostalgia road.
"who in the right mind would really need more than one core" -my dad a really long time ago, man times have changed
I Remeber my own words: "who's gonna need flash memory when we have dvds!?". It was max 16mb back then.
@@vadymvv haha I like how you just thought nah increase in capacity is not gonna happen :P
@@NonsensicalSpudz i mean, that memory was very expensive back than.
@@vadymvv everything always gets cheaper or you get something that is better
And then there're intel with 16 cores
I still have two of these in my garage! They were fully functional on Windows 2000 the last time I booted them years ago. Maybe I'll try turning them on one day! :)
Like 20 years later, Corsair puts a window on the side panel, sprinkles in some RGB and calls it a day.
yep lol 0:30
It’s looks more case labs 🦆
As a Carbide 740 Air owner I must admit that you're having a point there. :D
@@RuruFIN It is a handsome case even all these years later. I'm partial to my carbide 500R - been using it a long time or I'd probably have gotten a 740.
@@Dreadnorth7734 exactly what I thought.. the 1996(beige) equivalent to jarry's 2012 rig (barnacles nerdgasm) it does look like a caselabs case though! I agree
I had an old Data General server of the same era, and it was quite a beast, much like this Dell! I don't recall the exact model, but It could take 4 CPUs (it was populated with two 200MHz 512k cache Pentium Pros when I got it), had 256MB of ECC RAM, as well as two IBM 4GB drives. It also had a remote management card, much like Dell's DRAC, or Compaq's "Lights Out" card.
I attempted to resurrect it, but realized it was next to impossible. Didn't have any of the original utility software, and parts are especially hard to find. (To upgrade it, I needed more drives and caddies, and VRMs/heatsinks to be able to fully populate the CPU slots.) Ended up parting it out after the drives failed. (This particular server had insanely high hours on it, after all.) At least one of those Pentium Pros I salvaged, along with four of the RAM sticks, ended up being used to resurrect an old Gateway 2000 G6-200 board I found on eBay for $20.
Ahhh old Barracuda's from back when Seagate Enterprise drives were something to covet.
Oh the memories.....i was building those Pentium Pro machines when they were new! As soon as MMX came along the PPro was useless....takes me wayyyy back!
13:45 "Of course all attempts failed"
Windows. Windows never changes...
Wonder if linux would boot and consume both CPU's
I remember doing this, back in the days... bleh. (edit: though, being successful)
...
Also, had dual pp200's running ubuntu as a test
Windows NT was a piece of rock literally. After 95 which I had to reinstall every month(!), NT survived two years without a re-installation. A separate dos process in each console window was an awesome feature.
I love you man this kind of stuff is exactly what needs to be preserved and saved from the dumps I have tried in my life to preserve technology and different things that I and passionate about my life is very hard and I don't have the money and resources to do it you're doing amazing work
PS please be careful with those old power supplies you should try taking them to somebody who really knows what they're doing and have them thoroughly examined and or refurbished
I ran three of the Dell PowerEdge 4200 for many, many years. They were very good systems. The only drawback was the stupid SCSI disk trays, that used an "in between" adapter between the disk and the back plane.
Dell PowerEdge are still great to this day, and are my go-to when it's time to build a new server. They're unstoppable tanks that will just keep working for years. Decades, even.
0:14 that misaligned "Pentium Pro" sticker is ruining everything
Weirdly, this video reminded me that today is the day to vacuum my place.
That absolute UNIT! That shutdown noise is the spookiest thing heard this month so far.
You know... that case actually SCREAMS for a sleeper build. If I ever come across a broken one of these, I'll build one inside.
seeing the NT 4.0 device manager brought back some memories.
Not all of them pleasant.
Neat, I have one of these style beasts with quad Slot 2 Xeon, 3 PSUs, and 1GB of EDO. It's an oddball and can make for a solid end table. MSRP could have easily been $10,000 in the 90s.
I like the porn music playing in the background.
every music is porn music if you want :d
Porn is on the screen too, only computer kind.
@Maurth Maurtheson It taps back!
Pekne spracovane video :) Z prizvuku mi bolo hned jasne, ze budes Cech, a nazov stroja PREROV1 mi to len potvrdil. (a mimochodom prave som sa subscribeol)
Prerov, tam jsem casto prestupoval na vlak z Ostravy :-D
imagine getting a fully speced out machine back when this was new
I had one of these, well kinda. Back in 2000 I got ahold of the Case and Power Supply. Gutted the Power Supply and popped in the guts from a Rosewill 350Watt Power Supply. Had a AMD K6-2 system in it then upgraded to a Athlon 64 when it first came out. Would of kept the case and probably still be using it but couldn't take it when I moved out and my mother lost the house a year later leaving my huge pile of Retro Computer parts behind. Of course at this time no one was into Retro Computing.
looks like a old version of my workstation!
great machine to build in a monster pc!
love the classic looks!
great work Man! Absolutely stunning effort and passion. Keep up the awesome work. You bring back the golden times of PC era. 🙂
I had similar a long time back there not light in weight .. easily break your spine with them .. bit of nostalgia again
Nice video. I remember this server.
Back in the second half of 1990s, I used the PowerEdge 2200 to host around 15 web sites. It was for all the schools in a municipality.
that's some heavy duty retro pc going on. you can now create some Quake maps w Qoole ;) or other 3d rendering or CAD
Heavy ... yes I think +/- 35kg. In next days ... my hands are 10cm longer than usual :-)
That is one big beast. The sound when you powered on the Dell might be hard on the ears for some, but i found it quite pleasant as it drowned out the ringing in my ears from my tinnitus. Thanks for sharing, and i look forward to seeing this beast in action with the second CPU working. In the meantime, could you benchmark the the system with one CPU in action and then benchmark again when you get the second CPU working and compare the scores??
Very cool!! Congratulations on this rarity! I love old machines! I am technical and I love informatics! s2
She's a beauty! I'd love to just mess about with it and see what I could run on it.
Another great videos boss man.
I like how you use your hand to hold the CPU in when locking it. Pentium pro brings back some memories. Nice videos just discovered you
I always enjoy your videos, they relax me.
Hola amigo, buenas tardes; vi tu video y te agradezco por mostrarnos como eran los servidores de aquellos tiempos. yo soy autodidacta de la informática y siempre quise saber como eran esos servidores por dentro; gracias por tu video.
This brings back memories. I almost forgot 3Com used to make Ethernet controllers
Remember UNC?
It would make a great sleeper PC. Imaging how much modern hardware and cooling could fit in the case.
It would require so much modification that it wouldn't be worth it man..
It's not an ATX board in there..
Cases were purpose built on many systems back then...
@@fadingbeleifs Somehow, I think that anyone who was determined enough to use this case would be able to mod it.
@@ozpin8329 It´s not even a hard mod.
absolute mad lad
I love this video
Not so fast but works fine :-)
Your box of Pentium Pros is glorious. much love for the channel
I like Dell Computer mechanical design. It is very well engineered, a place for everything and everything in its place.
Amazing to think that the power of this one huge machine can be condensed into a tiny box nowadays
A budget Wear OS smartwatch puts that machine to shame now lol.
Wow, fully modular PSU back there is really impressive
When your IO card needs it's own RISC CPU...interesting that the dev team for that processor eventually went on to work on the Pentium Pro which is also in your system. Cool rig.
On boot it sounds like a jet spinning up it's engines. Great old sound.
Most RAID cards have a dedicated RISC processor.
I used to see a lot of those i960 CPUs in parts bins in the late 90s early 2000s. Lots of dumbasses stripping super expensive SCSI cards for parts not knowing their true worths.
Just spotted my 4X NEC CD-ROM drive in your lovely server. :)
one of the coolest pc cases ever made
You need to check your HAL, Bro, and reinstall it if your HAL is for Uniprocessor PC.
Oor you have a string NUMPROCS=1 in your boot.ini
How does it perform? Did you ever do anything with it beyond this setup demo?
I see a lot of comments on modern silent fan upgrades. I never worked with Dell in those days. I was a Compaq-guy. But anyway, silent machines are nice, but this is a server. The fans are very powerful, probably monitored and very much needed. I have seen some really big servers with fans that no modern gaming machine could be compared with.
That screw in power supply is great
I used to work in a meat market, and that thing sounds like the bandsaw I used to use.
I love the sound of those old hdds
I love the sound she makes when she powers down!
UncannyFox yep that was sweet
In about 20 years, could you do a Threadripper build?
Comments be like "LOL, you only had 32 cores back then, how did you dinosaurs survive."
@@michaelsasylum I think the bigger change will be base block speeds over core counts. as it'll be cheaper to manufacture, alongside that there's really a practical limit to how many cores you can utilize.
Those hard rives sound so good!
Nice resto! I would love a case like the that with a modern motherboard and hard drive drives.
And now we have computers with multiple cpus on one chip! How far we have come.
Almost looks like a Sun Microsystems case❤❤
Bite your tongue, Sun cases back then were a work of industrial art.
hola amigo , me encantra tus videos de esas pc retro . saludos desde bs as .
Please post more server stuff really love this content
Nice video. I waiting for more!!
This is your daily dose of Recommendation
Past time server
Man! What a BEAST! Love it!
Should've played some 1996 era techno music to go along with the theme. Oh well... Missed opportunity.
4:40.
贊!😍 保持得真完美;
中央處理器都拿來做鑰匙圈了!
You should install some 120mm fans infront it looks like it has the right holes
Yep this was original cooling 3x 120mm fans + big heatsinks without fans.
I have a spare PSU for that system just sitting around, shoot me a PM and we can work something out. LOVE DUAL P-PRO!
Líbí se mi, jak hezky zacházíš s takhle starou technikou 😉 Je mi sice 16, ale tvoje videa mám fakt rád.
I supported one of thee for a vet lab back in 2002.
Yo trabajé con este servidor cuando recien terminé Teleko... good times
Never thought I'd say this about a Dell but that thing is amazing
Amazing. Thanks for sharing it with us...
Wow, rare Pentium PRO PC Server but still function at 2019? You are a legend.
I still have one kind of CPU, Pentium PRO 200 Mhz from my first server, but only the CPU, all the peripheral already died.
nice ,,,takes me back to good old days
I have the PII version of this one… been in the family since new. Ran my dad’s business from 1998ish to 2003. Then was stored until around 2012 when we moved it to my house where it has sat ever since… I need to get it going again
Super. Ja ma compaq z 4 procesorami PPRO tylko 3 vrm mam i czekam na 4 :-)
What a beautiful machine. I looks and sounds amazing, one CPU or otherwise. Thank you for this. 👍👍
This makes me want to get my Quad Pentium II Xeon system back up and running again...
Now I remember how noisy it was the first SCSI driver I had, it was a Fujitsu u160 18gb: the noise was so loud I had headache after 5 minutes! :) Thanks God they improved the noise in u320 drives :) but now with SSD we complain about fans noise but that's another story :)
4:00 min Amazing barracuda
back in the days, this server was so damn expensive !!! good times passed so quick ... i was a kid when this server was new.
個人用(7:29)
圧巻のHDD同時起動音。縦に並んだいくつものインジケーターランプの明滅は
俺たちがイメージする、まさに「コンピュータ」の姿。
I miss Windows NT. I have found memories of it while in the NAVY. It just worked. I don't even remember a time that it ever crashed or Blue screened.
Oww, I love old things!
I'ma simple man. I see your video, I click ;).
that is a beautiful desktop ,amazing to see ,thanks for sharing this video.
When computers second function was as an office heater
whaaat. this comment is totally ridiculous. this DELL PowerEdge 4100's one of two power supply is rated something about 700W. you can install two of them there. so it is absolute peak for the system to drain 1400w from socket. but this specific system drains not more than 300w I suppose. 2x PPro180 = 32w+32w, ~5 scsi HDDs 20-30w each, plus ~50w system board and peripherals... we have 264w, which can be rounded to 300w.
the modern era brought us heaters. first - CPUs, next - graphics cards. and today graphics card consumes 75% of system power, and produces 75% of heat.
this whole PC consumes something like ONE mid-ranged graphics card of 2019.
i am sorry, but i will put it blunt like that.
Es una delicia con solo verlo. +like
Amazing those capacitors haven't bulged a bit.
Server grade stuff, Dell doesn't joke around when it comes to that.
Damn nostalgia kicking in, now I want a modern lunchbox portable.
Ten spin-up HDD je neskutecnej ... :-) Jak jste se k tomu zelezu vubec dostal ? To uz se tak casto dneska nevidi :-) Diky
Toto je byvaly firemni server. Behem let se to nejak posbiralo :-)
That is a really neat case, id throw my computer in it.
If you do ever get one please don't throw away the stuff that you would tear out from the inside give it to one of these guys like this so that it can be saved and reserved
Noisy, but I like that sound of starting SCSI drives!
YES! There is nothing better than sound of Retro hard drive spin up! haha kids dont know what theyre missing nowadays
The sound of ps4 after 4 years in use
Now this is a nuclear reactor sound.
Pěkný video🙂/Nice video🙂
I have a custom gaming pc I built that has a case looking exactly like this, its the corsair carbide air 540 cube and it is AMAZING for low thermals! Perfect for overclocking!