Nio ES8 1000 km challenge
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2021
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NIO promotes mathematic skills! Just multiply or divide while you charge or drive. Better than coffee on long trips.
😂
I used to drive like that with the LEAF to have a better prediction than the GOM
just a typical Asian thing to do
thirstier than fat e-tron
25:31 the NIO is drinking 😭🥺
Your youngest fan, my son Leon 1.5 years old, especially enjoyed your conversations with Nomi! Great video as always!
Thank you Björn.
The feeling of comfort also comes from the height of the sidewalls of the tires.
With 265/45 R21 tires, the sidewalls are 119 mm high (45% of the thread width that is 265 mm).
For a Tesla model 3 with 235/45 R 18, the sidewalls are 106 mm high (45% of 235 mm), offering less comfort.
For a Tesla model 3 performance (235/35 R 20) it’s even worse because the tire profile is only 82 mm…
To complete, in general bigger wheels means more comfort because you feel less the irregularities of the road. On the other hand smaller sidewalls means less comfort because the tire is less flexible. But more stiffer for a good road handling.
When you get bigger rims on a car, you must take smaller profile to conserve the same diameter of the wheel and not get false informations of speed and distance. That is why in general people think big rims = bad comfort.
and still ES8 is one of the best cornering and handling suv's ive tested.
edit; in sport
@@haveaseatplease
That’s probably right. But I don’t say sidewalls height make it all.
Thanks Bjorn, I was looking forward to some Nio and Xpeng cars, hopefully BYD too. The ES8 looks great, very impressed.
I have watched hundreds and hundreds of car reviews and this has allowed me to compile this complete list of cars with voice command interfaces that actually work IRL:
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You feel like Polestar Google Assistant was not up to the task?
I didn't understand him asking IONITY. I feel bad for Naomi.
As always, great stuff Bjorn, you're always the first to drive newly released cars!! Please do another challenge with the ES8 (or the Nio ET7 when it arrives in Norway next year), but using the swap stations.
@@MrDKPhil they say that by the end of the year there will be around 20 swap stations
@@gechichan Wasn't it by the end of 2022 there will be around 20 swap stations?
Yes end of 2022 I think
@@MrDKPhil First swap at the end of the month
Highlight 4:45 😆😆😆
The assistant makes björn crazy 🙈😆😆
I was driving from Lomma two days ago to Ullared and three chargers were broken on three different locations. I drive Renault Zoe and it was cold with pouring rain, dark, alone and only 20km left. Manage to find one working Eon charger. But it was not fun.
From what I'm seeing battery swap will do great all over the world...
Looks like you hit 250k. Congrats on that 🎉
Great video Bjorn, It took my attention that even charging stations has problems, and wait time in Norway. I wish you talked about NIO having battery swapping alternative while waiting for the charging station, and only charging 50%-60%.
The shot starting at 20:20 is the first to do the ES8 justice. The EC6 was my first choice once the brand came to the US; however, I now think the flagship SUV has more appeal. As always, great video and commentary. Thanks
NIO is convenient in here China it's because its battery-swapping station (especially station 2.0). Like the biggest city Shanghai, it has 28 swapping stations, while Teslas here are waiting for Supers, NIOs can usually change their battery within 5-9 mins(when there is enough fully charged battery in a station). However, US has no those stations now. Personally, I would vote for the swapping- stations, cause we cannot build more super-charges in big cities now, they consumed TOO MUCH power in a local(even now, if the drivers are shared one super, the power will reduce too). Lastly, NIO is only top-rich-city-people's choice who want luxury wheels as well as an EV's License Plate(in big city like shanghai it's hard to get a gas-license-plate, usually cost more than 10 RMB). Other than that, gas vehicles or hybrid still seemed an undeniable place in US. Remember that, it's hard to go green, even ours 60% electricity coming from coal.
Oh, there’s a typo:”100,000 RMB for a gas license “😆………..
👌Nice, now we need the practicality test
Bjorn, congrats on 250k followers!
"Colgating" ... I'm now picturing the Nio brushing it's front bumper :)
😂
NIO house (membership), NIO stuff, Battery swap, battery rental......etc is the added value of this company.
This test should be retested with the new battery swap station in drammen
The consumption kWh/100km... isn't that in the graph. 29,7. 3:36 in the video
At least we got a "nein nein nein NEIN!!!", even if it was for a different reason. 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe Nomi loves trolling you.
It did say on the screen 'say number X' and he just said 4, but still funny 😁
Nice test ! Unfortunately we don’t have Nio in France yet…. When will you be testing the Kia EV6, I can’t wait for the 1000km with this car 😉
Kudos to Ionity Maintenace Team
"Several balls poking me" - crakcs me up :D
2 Balls
Double sausage will help lol
It seems that Nio needs to work a lot on their software, especially Nomi. I saw a few Nio videos from China and Nomi didn't fail once even when the Chinese accent was very strong. They just need to improve their English version (also the english voice is much worst imo)
It works well for me.
@@MrDKPhil yeah, and I can :)
Sir u need to be Chinese to validate that claim. I can tell u for sure their AI is not as smart as they claim. Don't believe the few videos u see in China.
@@RichardPeterShon dude. I am chinese
Just an OTA update to have perfect SW
No kwh when charging is annoying. Hopefully a software update will fix that. Thx Bjørn (“poked by many balls” - I love your style 😄)
No car shows kWh, but you probably mean kW.
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Im pretty sure the cruise control on my ex work van would also cut the speed at 100mph, if i switched the radar and auto collision warning off the cruise control will pass 100mph no problem. Maybe that's what the neo needs to have is a mode where it will leave it upto the driver and turn off all vehicle inhibitions.
Please do not forget about Battery swapping which will change the whole game in Norway and beyond. GO NIO ~!!!!!!!
Just a reminder that ES8 was launched June 2018 in china and is built on the 1.0 platform. Platform 2.0 will be released with the ET7 :)
so why they took so long to bring it to Norway then? Why they did not updated at least something to make it less thirsty? We will see with ET7 tests, but I would be glad to be surprised with really efficient chinese car
@@apocrypth there are 2 versions of ES8 in China, this is the newest one, already more efficient than the first one
You gotta love the user interface ....... face the face ...... (anyway they will learn and improve fast)
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I love that little robot :D
Like an R2D2 in an X-Wing :D
Huge fan of NoMi she Will learn better english with time🙌🏾
Am I the only one who finds this thing a bit creepy?
Tamagotchi!!!😁
Now that's a proper replacement for a GM Suburban.
18:40 Also they are Cheaper then Ionity with no deal. :D and the Strömstad Ionity Chargers is under Mainenence fronm 13/10 till Friday 15/10. so they migth be All fuctioning to the weekend.
22:46 E-dog enters the chat.
Nomi makes that car feel very friendly :-)
Even if that system is not the smartest ;-)
Hey Björn, who does pay your charging cost b.t.w.? Do you get a charging card from the Car Manufacturers for free?
Watching EV UA-cam channels gives me the impression that the Ionity chargers are quite unreliable TBH.
They are. Recently I used few in Denmark and Germany. Very often they are too slow or broken.
yep thats because they are, even Herber Diess as BOSS of VW group complained about those... so it is not a coincidence that Bjorn sees so often broken Ionity chargers...
why are they constantly broken anyway?
In every video I watch only 2-3 out of 5 work
@@fredericoduvel3092 Because Ionity doesn't care. This company was created because some traditional car makers felt they had to build it. Ionity is not their core business.
Helpline is so poor. When I called it in Denmark as 3 out of 4 chargers didn't work (frozen or black screens) , the lady said that in her system all of them work fine.
Fastned is much better.
5:38 C'mon Bjorn, it clearly says "say number 1 or number 2". If you would've said "number 4" it would've been successful I think.
I can say "1" or "2" no problem. And even when I said "number 4", it doesn't work.
@@bjornnyland Wow, thanks for the quick clarification. Seems to really be an error then
@@teofilol2666 they need to update their european server...
@@abraxastulammo9940 haha! 4 is really considered an unlucky number in china (it sounds like "death"). In my building you have floor 1, 2, 3, 3A, 5...
You also just click on 4 on the screen, super easy. You don’t have to use Nomi at for everything all the time, screen and buttons are pretty handy as well
Very nice car, I don't know why EU doesn't make something similar. Electric SUV - beautiful.
Left side is always the wrong side.
If you park sideways to a curb side charger, it will be on the opposite side of the car.
Unless you are in a left side driving country.
Yes. But it's such a nice saying. “... which is on the right side which is the wrong side, it should've been on the left side, which is the right side” 😁
@@abraxastulammo9940 The right back works well in tight garages. But sucks with a charging station in front. Nose chargers work pretty well in most situations... Why is there no f.cking standard?!
Nope. Right side is the wrong side and the left side is the right side. Trust me.
What a beautiful car!
Bjorn, what do you think about the MG ZS updates?
seem pretty positive overall. The Germans are very quiet indeed, especially EQC and E tron, two of the most quiet cars on the market today probably only surpassed by Rolls Royce. Not exactly sure which part of the software that you did not quite like. But the car is frankly a bit old in the EV world since developement first started back in 2016 ish, so the hardware isn't the latest and the greatest.
How do you pay for the electric over there. And do different stations have different prices for electricity like they do for gas stations?
Did NIO include an abacus to do other calculations? What a cool feature NOMI is. Too bad it doesn't work.
colgating (tooth paste?), you meant coldgating, I figure ;-) Looking forward to the Banana box test on the ES8! Really a shame that it doesn't charge faster than 125kW!
This will be interesting when you can replace the battery like nio in china
the Hongqi E-HS9 seems big, check it out?
Ok,but this car is very huge and on the other side if the big advantage of Nio cars become a real swapping battery station,then final score must be much better.
@@larsradtke4097 Price of one swapping station in China is something about 250.000 USD, four stails is probably something about milion euro here in Europe plus 60 battery depleted inside cost near the milion more...In total probably two milion euro for one functional swapping station...We will see is the Nio have enough money to make network across main highways or wil be focused at the city area.
@@larsradtke4097 That's it. I don't think the battery swap will really become a thing, in Europe at least.
@@davidsommen1324 Tesla developed battery swap long time ago and showed it, afaik they even opened it in Cali for the customers, but they quickly figured out that there is no demand for this service and discontinued the idea completely.
@@ora10053 I don't think that lack of demand was the reason for Tesla decision. Nio swapping stations are quite popular. Beside the costs, I think the main problem in adopting swapping is that it forces to use one size of battery frame for all of your cars present and future. That's why Nio cars are all huge...
How is fast charging compared to normal 95 costwise? Is it still less expensive?
It's even thirstier than FAT e-tron *lol* . I'd totally go see Björn does Stand-up comedy :D
Nio EL7 is coming to norway for test driving and deliveries in a few weeks. will you be testing?
Guys, wait for his battery swap video! 100kwh in 5 mins😁
Nomi
“999”
Hahaha , thanks for sharing
Nice large car, but I think it should a bit more areodynamic.
This is only the first English version NIO has, the Chinese version is far better, nothing to worry, it will be updated via OTA in no time.
GOOD JOB RESPECT MORROCO
Do the headlights have active shadowing?
Why are chargers often out of order? Fuel pumps usually work all of the time
I can't wait for the ET5 to come out. I was seriously considering getting a Model 3, but the ET5 seems like a much better option.
There aren't any driving tests yet of course, so I'm very curious how it's going to perform. Do you think it's bad to get the first iteration? I mean they improved a lot on the Model 3 2021.
"four" - no, meanwhile on the screen: "you can say "number 1" or "number 2" to choose an option" :)
Just saying "4" actually works. Randomly.
HI Bjorn. I enjoy your video and your detailed spreadsheet. Would you be add different chemistry types to your table eg the MIC Model 3 LFP etc? It would be interesting to see if there is any correlation between the time and battery chemistry.
i would say, there is not much correlation, because its more about thermal management of the battery, then how it is internally configured (serial-paralel groups)... that gives more to the max power and max charging speed than chemistry I would say.
As soon as you guys get battery swap stations NIO will be #1 EV company in Europe. And not only in Europe but in whole world.
Your battery will be fully charged in 3 minutes while other car owners such as Xpeng, Volvo, Audi, Volkswagen, BMW, Tesla whatever will wait in the line for those broken charges to charge their batteries for 30 minutes.
Fabulous!i
I think Bjørn forgot hongqi e-hs9 soon arriving at Norway! Maybe he should check on that car too! Is like we're huge !
Nope
after battery swap station finish, then give another review, you will feel huge different experience
22:59 yep it is green, the dog is charging too
How many times you charges during 1000km challenge, and how long take you trip
Maybe a stupid question but what is the reason so many chargers are often broken? I see it all the time for Ionity, ABB chargers etc. This doesnt look good and needs to be addressed imo. Imagine you go to the gas station and 3/5 stalls are broken... Does this happen to Teslas Superchargers aswell? havent heard about it at least. /Potential EV owner.
You have to say number four!!!!
Awesome !
I wish Nio come to Indonesia 😇
you can say "number 1" or "number 2" to choose an option. "four" , "four" "number four" would do it?
It's a dumb AI period.
Borjn was talking to his grandma. I wonder how many Nomi died so far in road rage.
Just saying "4" actually works. Randomly.
hi, how do you add windshield washer fluid in this car
They should add the calculation results in due course as we do expect these in Europe. Does it have ota update capability?
Yes it does
In that case it will very likely be added by popular request sooner or later.
Hejsan Björn...
Har en fråga till dig angående Nio es8..
När tror du att denna es8 kommer till sverige??
1000-tack i förskott...
Toni ..
Thats almost a BUS :D
Circle K Furuset
The most unknown yet known fast charger in Norway
It’s a cool car, but damn it’s thirsty. Wow
"I went for double sausage today."
that's what she said
Left-hand wheel rims need to be made for this car. They only work on the other side.
ถนนเรียบมากครับ😁😁
Like a ninjaaa
For what it's worth, nomi works much better in Chinese from what I've seen
So your saying nomi is racists 😂. Just kidding
@@eliudm472 just illiterate for now
Ridiculously big
Bloody hell! That’s expensive fuel in that petrol station!!!!
French Hot Dogs ftw!!
Here we go
I wonder how quick with battery swap stations?
3-6 minutes
If they want to really successful in Europe, I think they should bump up that charging speed. I mean what's the use of such a huge (expensive and heavy) battery if the car is thirsty and still charges rather slow.
When battery swap opens, forget about charging...
@@Alberto-xw8vx I don't think there will ever be enough battery swap stations that cover the whole of Europe (or the world for that matter). I want to travel in the South of Spain, Italy, Greece, on the islands in the Mediterranean sea. I would be really surprised if they would provide swap stations every 50-100km in those places (making large detours defeats the purpose). On the other hand, CCS chargers are way less expensive and can be used by all modern EVs. They can be put anywhere. I mean battery swap is OK on huge motorway corridors. But in Europe, I don't see it replacing charging at all.
Yeah but 1.000km time is very close to Mercedes Eqc that people still buy... Average charging speed can matter more then peak... 125kw is plenty, just need to be consistent...
@@DG-uv3zw True but Mercedes has the advantage of being a known and premium European brand, whereas NIO still has everything to prove, especially in a European context. I would have no problem buying a Chinese car if it really is as good and cheaper, or the same price and better, than the European competition. I do think they are going in the right direction, I just think the combination of the fact that the battery is so huge and still the car charges rather slowly and is thirsty, could be a bit of a disappointment. They might still fix it though - I see no reason why it could not just charge at higher power at low SoC.
@@davidsommen1324 Yes but can Mercedes swap and rent batteries? Replace them in the future with better tech? Nope... Nio has different customers and that`s fine...
Bjorn, why are there so many broken chargers? It is a very bad look for EV's future.
I'm sorry Bjørn, I can't let you do that
5:18 I guess you should say "number 4" not "4" :-)
Yeap, even the screen displays that you should say 'number 4'. Small issue, but could be easily fixed OTA update
I can say "1" or "2" and it works. And if I recall correctly, even saying "number 4" doesn't work.
Came here to say this :)
"Fortunately we have e.On chargers over here"
- Something you´ll never hear from a german EV driver hahaha
"eOff"
@@nolibtard6023 this
My god the Voice Control is horrible. If you built in such a feature it needs to work. Especially such basic things. I hope they fix that.
Is it possible that cooler box had so negative impact on power consumption in this test, that the power consumption overall rise enormous?
No
You should say "number 4", as shown on the screen to navigate to ionity?
Just "4" actually works. Randomly.
@@bjornnyland OK, thx for your answer
Do you have a website or place where all your excel sheets are available? Like for banana boxes, this 1000km test etc etc? Great video as always ❤️
No, but he shares the Google doc in every video description with all the information you'd like.
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