"POOR MANS" Flowmasters! CHEAP Exhaust Alternative for Crown Victoria!
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2021
- save yourself TONS OF MONEY with this exhaust setup! its way better than the original muffler delete mod because it lowers the interior droning but creats enough pressure to actually feel some HP gains while creating an even better exhaust note!
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If your car is stock Just replace the mufflers with straight pipe probably cost you $40 at a muffler shop or weld it yourself for under $20.
Thank you so much for your videos bro! I'm from Wisconsin. I just bought a 2009 p71. I'm putting new fenders on and new exhaust. New wheels and tires. Also going to check out the intake manifold thanks to you video for the knowledge
There is more to an exhaust than just loud. I am getting an exhaust fabbed up at my local muffler shop. The difference is I am going to supply all the main parts. All he has to make the tail pipes and weld Everything together.
Jones Exhaust Flowpack 1-chamber mufflers ($32 each), Walker H-Pipe mid-section ($45), exhaust tips ($45), and hangers ($30). About $350 in labor and I am all good. The parts are dirt cheap on Amazon. Don't have the money? Then buy a part of two every payday. That's what I did. Now that the freeze is over in Texas all I need is a day off to get it done.
How did it turn out?!
Imagine if the Marauders sounded like the Crown Vic at the start
What if they did the same thing with the marauder to the crown Vic imagine how loud it’d be
Marauders sound better, bigger pipes, and deeper growl.
I hate straight pipes...but that popping on deceleration sounds bad ass. Also, aren’t you worried about the axle hitting those pipes if you go over a bump too fast?
I'm sending this to my exhaust guy. Then my congressman lmao 🤣
Unfortunately we have cops in our town so mufflers are needed
I feel you my camaro has no mufflers or resonators
Lmao in Texas they don’t care
most places as long as u keep ur cats ur ok. just get a high flow muffler w dual inlets
Been watching you for a little while. And you inspire me so much saving up for a p71 now!!
I just got one last week. Definitely worth it
I’m saving to get one too we will all salute each other on the road some day 😎
Thanks for the time that you took to make the video
Thanks for this presentation! A couple questions to make sure I understand as I'm not as knowledgeable as some of you. So has anyone tried to set up a system without the original mufflers but with the resonators still in place (if equipped with resonators as I know CVPI did not have them)? I'm curious what that would sound like. On your car what you did originally (1.0, right?) was to have the exhaust system cut off after the rearmost catalytic converters, and it was good, but that you felt that the exhaust droned too much, especially when taking a longer trip like on the highway. Is that right? ---So are you saying that the 2.0 was simply adding exhaust pipe back in place of the original routing but without the mufflers (or the resonators on cars that have them) resulted in quieting down the droning, but still gave a good or even superior sound?? I also noticed that it appears the exhaust is routed below the rear axle. I routed mine above the rear axle to avoid clearance issues. Or did I misunderstand? thanks for clarifying. Wouldn't simply eliminating the mufflers alone (on dual exhaust Panther models) and putting a straight pipe in place, have a similar effect? I'm asking because i recently picked up a 2007 Town Car (mostly same chassis) and it has the resonators unlike on your CVPI.
the black vic sounds wayy better and its safer too since the fumes go all the way out...
have you thought about some "chromies" (tailpipes)like the fox body mustangs had?
ill be taking my CVLX (civillian vic) to the muffler shop to have "phase one" of the exhaust done...hopefully tuesday...
she wont be loud after phase one...but when she goes back for phase two shes comin outta there sounding saweeeet!
I have yet to hear straight pipes that actually sound good…to me. Of course, it’s all a matter of opinion. To me, straight pipes on almost any vehicle are just loud. And to me, there’s a difference between loud exhaust and good sounding exhaust. To sound “good”, I think most of us like something louder than stock. But to just be loud doesn’t cut it. There are a lot of cheap, relatively loud mufflers out there. Everybody makes a cheap Flowmaster knock-off. Even down to the ten series (LOUD). And Dynomax Race Bullets are cheap too.
However, I can’t argue with the low cost of cutting off your mufflers.
Different strokes!
…BTW…Crown Vics rule! I’ve had two…so far…
What do you think about doing the same to a 1995 Vic LX? Would it be worth it for mine?
Routing the pipes under the axles got me so confused
YEP. It's a BAD idea.
He's not going to be able to drop the gas tank I'm fucking believable
I ordered 2 glass packs last night. Will be putting them on my 09 p71 Soon as they come in
Where’s the vid
What's the sound difference between the single exhaust muffler delete on the marquis vs a muffler delete on a dual exhaust marquis?
How can I budget build my single exhaust 05 grand marquis to dual exhaust w/o the CEL staying on?
Just delete 2 rear cats and mufflers. Have 2 front cats and just straight pipe. Cost you next to nothin and it sounds best
This guy is costing people money, you don't have to cut off your whole exhaust to straight pipe it. Also the factory exhaust is stainless, the replacement pipes will rust out after a few years. And you don't have to straight pipe it add flowmaster or glasspacks whatever you want to it.
My local muffler guy also advised me against cutting replacing the stock exhaust since he said stock is almost indestructible and should last a very long time.
It sounds and looks great
2.0. The white Vic sounds like crap lol
Both pretty loud for this old guy but I like it when you young guys do it. My setup gonna be custom cause I’m probably going 3” and I want an h-pipe.
3 inch won't go over the rear end.. 2 1/4 is about all you can go over it without rubbing. I have 2 1/4 over the rear end going to 2.5 tailpipes with 4 inch tips
Forget the 3" exhaust pipes !!
You will NOT increase the exhaust flow -- instead you will lose low-end torque, due to the larger pipes stopping the "scavenging effect" of the smaller diameter tubing.
The original factory duals on the Panthers was 1 and 7/8ths inches in pipe diameter. They kept the pipe diameters small in order to get the scavenging effect, which helps low-end torque and fuel economy.
The famous 95 MERC runs all 4 Cats, Walker H-Pipe; 2" x 21" Magnaflow Glasspax; Walker Tailpipes; Superior Slant-Cut Tips.
Sound is smooth and powerful, with NO DRONING !
@@SlikLizrd thank you for your thoughts. Only reason I was thinkin 3” exhaust is because I am rebuilding and supercharging my 4.6. I will probably just order the Stainless Works 2 1/2” exhaust because it’s easy. I’m hoping to be around 450 wheel hp.
@@canadianmarauder1923 2.5 " duals sounds PERFECT for your objective of 450 hp.
You going with Shorty Headers !??
@@SlikLizrd Stainless Works long tube headers. Bought them a couple years ago.
EDIT i did cut the tips off and put my single chambwrs on and it sounds amazing. I bought my vic with true straight pipes, no cats at all. It's so obnoxiously loud it's the first straight piped car I've owned that's too loud for me. And it wouldn't be that bad but I can't STAND the sound from the murauder tips on it. They gotta come off. I think I'll cut them off and put mufflers in their place so it is closer to how the newer mustang exhausts are routed.
The black one sound like an old pickup truck and the white one sounds like it's revving on 6 cylinders.
2.0 👍 Looks like it might be the answer for the pathetic single exhaust on my LX.
I have a 03 grand marquis. I am looking into Installing some aftermarket exhaust if I get catbacks or axelbacks do I need to tune my car? Can someone help.
I don’t if it was the camera but I like it better when you did the side pipes.( older vid )
“Sounds just like a NASCAR... stock car”
😂 nice save, the comment section would’ve turned into a warzone with grammar police
Alright how do I get the tips like the black Vic I have the original exhaust set up on my 05 p71 but want the tips done
Sounds great but under the axle? I couldn’t do it and feel safe. I’m in the city where that’s a bad idea. But it does sound good.
I love the cackling sound and I'd like some more information bro all you showed was the cut and compression not the how too
I like the white one how it sounded
It needs a muffler to clean that blatty popping sound up. It doesnt sound tuned. It sounds like it has s miss. Summit mufflers are 30 a piece and you butt clamp them in for like 75 bux.
What size piping do you have on it?
I got that same hat from Walmart brother very cool 😎
I'm weird. I like quiet. At my job. I do a lot of idling and slow creep patrol. This is in my own 1998 P71.
A another client I get to use the company 2011 P7B black and white. Both are very quiet and sneaky.
Plus, my wife also drives our P71 and after listening to some of your videos she laid the law down and said no to any muffler adjustments.
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I have a 98 and it’s so stealthily quiet! I love that!
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I thought you had them coming out the sides on this car....also do you even have cats in the equation for this set up? Just for emissions states
That with the rear cats removed?
Where exactly did you cut the pipe. Get more specific please
I mean not perfect but gets the job done opening that v8. I have a lt1 gotta say those ford 4.6s sound like a beast.
mine has a muffler delete and an h-pipe delete and ppl turn their heads whenever i pass em, but since i dont have tint its hard to tell if they do or not but some do 👀
Do you still have the cats on?
Defiantly PoorMans 2.0 100% when I heard the 1st one I’m sitting here like ok ok 👌🏾then you revved the 2.0 I’m like yeah no doubt 😂
do you still have the cats and resonator on? or is it completely straight pipes ?!
cats still on
I like yours videos
Don’t like either, definitely don’t like raspy exhaust.
How can I get around the fire suppression system?
true dual right?
all day
Where can I buy this
i’m looking to do the black vic exhaust to mine. (2.0) did u take out the h-pipe and just run 2 pipes? and is the size of the pipes just the stock size?
yes just 2 straight pipes the same size and diameter as the stock ones
@@MrRandomReviews thanks man. best sounding crown vic exhaust i’ve bet heard👍🏼
Cool ! The tips stick out too far though. Shorten them a bit. What i would do anyway, and nicer tips.
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My grand marquis has stock cats, aftermarket H pipe and fleet farm tips off the H. Everything is cut out and it costed me $75. And it's loud asf
Planning on doing same lol! u mean like a walker h pipe then clamp some tips where it ends? did u notice a hp gain i cut off the muffler in my single exhaust and i noticed a slight bit more get up
Is that just a muffler delete or did you have the cats deleted too?
muffler
Still sounds tuff.
2.0 is definitely hands down better lol
Is that a straight 2" pipe all the way? Or did you go bigger?
2 all the way
Worst sounding Crown Vic I’ve ever heard. You’d be better off replacing the mufflers and leaving the factory H-pipe.
2.0 sounds better but I would get a ticket in my state for having that on my vic.
Sounds like someone is farting for a long time while driving😂😂😂😂
i saw poor mans and i clicked :)
The white one sounds haunting
Is that done right without setting off the check engine light
no CEL
@@MrRandomReviews hell yeah
Just a random question, but where did you get that D.A.R.E. decal?
theres a girl on instagram that makes them @615_rebecca just hit her up
Definitely needs some nice chrome tips from a junkyard car or something other than that 👍👍
Or just get a buffer wheel and polish the tips yourself
Interesting video. Yes, you can save some money by doing most of the work yourself, but why would you run the tubes under the axle? Sooner or later the tubes will be bent or crushed by the axle when you go over a bump or a dip and, "back to the shop!" The black Vic sounds good! I think you might shorten the tips a a bit though, because if you happen to be backing up to a wall and forget how long they are, "CRUNCH! Your friends (white) car should have the pipes routed to the edge of the body though, so he doesn't risk carbon monoxide poisoning.
It depends on what day of the week it is 😂
2.0 best sound
The 2.0 sounds better and looks better 😉 too.
Should have just bought or put your old tail pipes on lol
Drop it 3am we dont wanna wait
I'm saving up for a new p71
i cut the rear cats off my 05 p71 and i put glass pack on my car and now i cant get the check engine light out after changing the o2 censors what do u recommend for it
Should have left the cats on and just did away w the muffler's. The cats have 02 sensors. Maybe you cut the wires on it and that's why the light is staying on. Good luck
@@therepublicoftexas7068 naw didn't cut the wires to the o2 sensors
I changed out the o2 sensors
The car had four cats on it
I cut the rear two cats off
The front two had the o2 sensors didn't touch those
@@therepublicoftexas7068 there r four cats on the car
The front two have the o2 sensors In them
The rear cats didn't
The front ones have 2 o2 sensors in each of them
@@geraldnulischjr damn my 09 p71 only has 2
One or both of your front cats may be hollow. Sometimes, they will just break up and blow out. Mine doesn't have any cats. It have the 2 front O2 sensors like normal. The back O2 sensors have spark plugs non foulers. Drilled holes into the pipe, welded a pair of non foulers in, drilled out a second pair so the O2 sensors would screw in, then screwed them into the ones in the pipes. No check engine light since. It has been about 2 years.
Anyone know a muffler shop in the Atlanta metro area??? 😔
Muffler King on Moreland
@@wibigboi64 my guy!!!
Hey so I have a 2008 grand marquis. Is this really just a straight pipe? Or is there more to it. I hope you can respond cuz I really wanna do this to mine.
just straight pipe..still has all 4 cats...just no mufflers
@@MrRandomReviews damn that's a crazy sound regardless of muffs
@@MrRandomReviews this will pass emissions? I'm assuming so since a muff isn't part of the smog system
@@madeulook5872 In most states, the emissions inspection involves checking to see if all Catalytic Converters are in place. Nobody seems to care if mufflers are present.
I have run cars with no mufflers through the Maricopa County (Arizona) smog check on several occasions -- no problem.
The cars in this video are BOTH too loud, especially the "2.0" -- the DRONING will kill ya !!
@@SlikLizrd well the sad part is since this comment my marquis was totalled due to tire issues. And I was forced to not repair them .
I honestly think the first iteration of the poor man's muffler sounded better. The more growly sound instead of the slapping sound works better. The new one claps a little too much I would almost throw a cherry bomb on each pipe to try and get rid of the raspiness.
Thats Illegal ,?? In texas
Definitely not the one to popularize cutting off mufflers
2.0 sound better I have flow masters on mines but I want stock
Will the 98 throttle body spacer work on a 2004 Crown Victoria p71.
yes but then you need a throttle cable adapter because it moves forward or back an inch or two...its a bit more of a pain on 04 and under vics
Do you have any videos on the 04 on how to pep it up
Thanks
I did it on my 04. Didn't know better and started the car, VROOM! Scared the bejezus out of me. Then I looked at all the left over parts and figured those brackets were for something. Now it's nice and responsive. I was worried that maybe they might get loose over time but it's been over a year and everything still tight
Definitely 2.0!
2.0 sounds great with the rumble pops
I need some videos from the inside.
way more quiet man...especially highway crusing its barely noticable
I know that muffler shop in Dickson
That is an insult to poor people everywhere.
The black 1
The black car sounds much better.
By by gas
The black cv
Resonator tips.
My ears can't take it on the video
Sounds like a x pipe
I need that on my mercury grand marquis. 👍👍🔥🔥🔥
I ran 2.5 inch thrush weldeds on mine. Really nice sound.
It droned a bit at 35mph but only because it was dumped at the axle.
Muffiler 2.0
I have a 2008 vic that uses gas or propane that I am selling
If that was legal in California... Need a muffler to pass smog...
That doesn't sound great.
Sounds like a yee yee truck im glad i never dont that
That's sounds like more like cheap scape exhaust
the reaper vic is sick af! i like it! i need to drive that one too lol. you know my fav was the killer whale! but the reaper vic...she's definitely growing on me more and more! Damn 3:19!!! WOW!!!
2.0 sounds much better to me bro
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black one sounds better