"Hellborn" makes it sound like he was originally planned for the Chaos faction but got switched over to the Nightmare Council without anyone going back to revisit that skill.
I'm using him on forerunner as third deployment in my single target arena team. The retaliation works well and the vulnerability allows Valyeria and Silas to finish the job quickly. Paired with the right healer he could be more damaging than Ardea. For me his kit is ultimately "tanky fighter" - can survive a big hit and will then hit enemy hard (ideally killing them), giving you time to heal him back up again. Some fighters in the game can't take a big hit while he can. Also in arena having him take the hits is allowing me to use valeryia's ult. more often without fear of her dying. (I can DM you a link to an arena run with him). I really want him to he reworked to be HP scaling and Rork has shown they can do that effectively
@@genpotrait2274 yea of course. point wasnt that magmus is so end game meta arena option but that he is a viable option in normal gameplay for certain players
That passive always sounded upside down, lol. As much as he helped me out a lot early on when I got him (didn't get an Abomination till 9 months in), that base ATK is wasted. He's one of the very old heroes that they've refused to rework because there's really no incentive to rework heroes that a lot of people have compared to brand new heroes
I think the hell born passive was designed to protect him from getting one shotted. Results wise it’s probably worse in practice but I don’t hate the idea of it
Not only is he a mid-tier hero, but his design is a clone of Ajax (minus the dragon). Just compare them side by side and you can see the same model. Their armor and horned helmet are the same except for the colors and few lava effect here and there on Magmus's armor. . Seems like the dev are getting lazy
Wouldn't the physical vulnerability be a nice addition to something like a nightmare GB team? Also thinking maybe a wailing skull instead of that exclusive with his insanely high scaling attack may be better? I agree he seems confused, but perhaps he's a hidden GB gem?
Countless banners have passed and I have yet to get an elowyn on 2 different accounts. Need her asap thanks for the video I think I’ll hit the 1+1 for her or Sadie or something that will actually progress my gear raids.
First of all, thanks for the guide Fasti! Much appreciated. Secondly, I'm so bummed he's not that great. Every ounce of my being is telling me to summon for him because I love his design and aesthetic, but I'm at the point of the game where I need better heroes/gear to progress into further content. He would literally not be able to help my account. :( How do we explain this to Moonton that they're so close, but yet so far on giving us what we want? Sigh.
Wouldnt he also make more sense as a chaotic+infernal unit or at least be a bit better for like solca/twin synergy or with the self damage theme of the chaos faction ? I think it’s such a sad waste cuz he looked so cool and i looked forward to getting him. Was hoping he‘d be like a wrath on roids from his looks.
Relatively new player here - I just pulled this guy today (and the last epic I needed for Abomination, as it happens). A little disappointed he's not a bit better :(
he has aoe but st debuff, he has high atk but low mulitplier, he has a handsome face but a nightmare, and his hellborn............I was thinking if they switch the affect, like high HP for dmg increase and low hp for dmg reduction, he will be really good in some places
I’ve got about 350 summons and they are def not going towards this lol. Hoping for a nice banner and hopefully I’ll have around 500 by that point so you can summon them for me
Do you ever help on personal accounts? I've been struggling to crack GR 1-2-3 lvl19 and up for so long. It's keeping me from the gear I really need to progress the game.
left side. and I havent seen ronaldo's vid yet but ardea is a great choice. also for stage 6, you need magic there as well so it isn't a simple as just inserting one hero
Need some help people don’t know who to invest in just pulled my A2 aracha I have arrogance and Uriden Valkyre and valeriya who should I be investing in cheers ❤❤
I'm ok with not every new hero being ground breaking. However, instead of just making some heroes clearly very powerful, and others very "mid," it would be great it was more about making heroes that are OVERALL "mid" as far as how much content they are good in, BUT who are excellent in some niche content, or who bring some kind of unique ability that allows for some interesting strategies to counter specific problems. For example, if this guy had a passive that gave out shields to any nearby units that can not be healed, then he'd be an interesting part of a ground based AOE team as he'd enable heroes like Cerberus and Atrox to stay up longer, or he could be used to help Valeriya alive while she's ulting.
I just have to say i don't really think his passive is bad. I think it's meant for tanking one strong hit (while the dmg reduction is up), then hit hard (well... that's the potential problem here) with retribution and get healed back up for the dmg reduction. I do not think it's reversed or unintuitive. For me the idea is solid. I just think his numbers should be a little more "entertaining" for him to be good for certain content (e.g. void rift). But please let me know if i get it wrong here :)
Yes I just really disagree with this. Will only be harder for him to get healed up when he is taking damage without increased reductions. Point of a tank is to be full of hp and solid
@@fastidious_gg I do not think he works too well. His stats are not good enough for it. I just like the general idea of that kit. Or more like the idea behind it.
I was gonna toss a few 10 pulls to see if I get lucky, but after seeing Zelus as his banner mate and seeing his kit better explained, I'll pass. Probably get him as an off-banner the next time I pull anyways 😂
I feel like everything from now up to anniversary is a guaranteed skip with the exception of certain new Lords like Iovar but it’s not even the same resources. He looks so damn cool but Zelus is the banner mate… this banner feels unacceptable without Zelus buffs.
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I'll stick with my free abomination and save my summons for 1-year anniversary. And yes, Edith is totally trash and of course i pulled her instead of Khamet because that is how it was supposed to be. The epic tanks in her faction are better than her.
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"Hellborn" makes it sound like he was originally planned for the Chaos faction but got switched over to the Nightmare Council without anyone going back to revisit that skill.
accurate
Hey I got quoted (from my work account oops). Glad my comment clarified your thoughts a bit!
Does lunacy visor actually allow him to block 5 targets? The last line of it has always confused me.
do not know why it wouldn't
Not only are they diluting the lego pool the are diluting exclusive artifacts pool
I'm using him on forerunner as third deployment in my single target arena team. The retaliation works well and the vulnerability allows Valyeria and Silas to finish the job quickly. Paired with the right healer he could be more damaging than Ardea.
For me his kit is ultimately "tanky fighter" - can survive a big hit and will then hit enemy hard (ideally killing them), giving you time to heal him back up again. Some fighters in the game can't take a big hit while he can. Also in arena having him take the hits is allowing me to use valeryia's ult. more often without fear of her dying. (I can DM you a link to an arena run with him).
I really want him to he reworked to be HP scaling and Rork has shown they can do that effectively
Sounds a solid use case
Do you not run wrath ? I use him to "tank" so i can ult with valeriya, plus lord bonus
@@hayded1 I run torodor lead so I'm getting bonus damage from retaliation strikes, bonus damage from leader skill, bonus damage from wailing skull.
Current global apex/high overlord meta is hard, praetus, valderon. Doubt he can do anything
@@genpotrait2274 yea of course. point wasnt that magmus is so end game meta arena option but that he is a viable option in normal gameplay for certain players
That passive always sounded upside down, lol. As much as he helped me out a lot early on when I got him (didn't get an Abomination till 9 months in), that base ATK is wasted.
He's one of the very old heroes that they've refused to rework because there's really no incentive to rework heroes that a lot of people have compared to brand new heroes
100%
Im on pity and i really should put it into the double leggo but he just looks so badass and thats exactly what i want for a champ😭
Yes I should’ve mentioned it in the vid. Look wise he is awesome
Please we needed more nightmare fighters..
Looking forward to the limited hero review!
I'll still take sun wukong tho lmao
Staying true to saving for guaranteed lego
Can you make videos about which 20 artifacts to max upgrade and 20 hero to max skills. So I can plan my upgrade better.
I think the hell born passive was designed to protect him from getting one shotted. Results wise it’s probably worse in practice but I don’t hate the idea of it
Thx for the review! Pulled this guy lately & 6-stared him, cause some called him a stronger Wrath... disappointing!
who called him that?!
Ingame champion ranking. Being a relatively new player I sometimes need advice, regarding the champs quality & how to equip.
If his Ult was more like Cerberus' ult and could land further away and hit more targets it would be more useful.
Not only is he a mid-tier hero, but his design is a clone of Ajax (minus the dragon). Just compare them side by side and you can see the same model. Their armor and horned helmet are the same except for the colors and few lava effect here and there on Magmus's armor. . Seems like the dev are getting lazy
Wouldn't the physical vulnerability be a nice addition to something like a nightmare GB team? Also thinking maybe a wailing skull instead of that exclusive with his insanely high scaling attack may be better?
I agree he seems confused, but perhaps he's a hidden GB gem?
yea good for bosses but his damage is quite weak in general, let alone single target
Countless banners have passed and I have yet to get an elowyn on 2 different accounts. Need her asap thanks for the video I think I’ll hit the 1+1 for her or Sadie or something that will actually progress my gear raids.
First of all, thanks for the guide Fasti! Much appreciated.
Secondly, I'm so bummed he's not that great. Every ounce of my being is telling me to summon for him because I love his design and aesthetic, but I'm at the point of the game where I need better heroes/gear to progress into further content. He would literally not be able to help my account. :(
How do we explain this to Moonton that they're so close, but yet so far on giving us what we want? Sigh.
Wouldnt he also make more sense as a chaotic+infernal unit or at least be a bit better for like solca/twin synergy or with the self damage theme of the chaos faction ? I think it’s such a sad waste cuz he looked so cool and i looked forward to getting him. Was hoping he‘d be like a wrath on roids from his looks.
He seems like a Nightmare version of Cerberus that can be healed. Or at least that’s what it looks like to me. Could you do a comparison?
Cerberus has a wider range and higher multipliers on the ground effect I think.
His kit is a mozaic of partially implemented playstyles
Hey fasti. How often will you update the tier list on the website for new heros?
once a month. next update is next week
He needs duel faction with chaotic for that passive to be good
truth
Relatively new player here - I just pulled this guy today (and the last epic I needed for Abomination, as it happens). A little disappointed he's not a bit better :(
he has aoe but st debuff, he has high atk but low mulitplier, he has a handsome face but a nightmare, and his hellborn............I was thinking if they switch the affect, like high HP for dmg increase and low hp for dmg reduction, he will be really good in some places
Yup yup and yup
New heroes that need a rework before they're even released is generally not a good omen.
Yeah its mainly because they are very old in comparison to most heroes
Pool dilution only serves to benefit moontons pockets
So true!
@@WorGuideswhat do you mean they’re very old? It hasn’t even been released yet 🤔
@@felipefariast there is a seperate server called the forerunner server magmus existed ever since global launch back in july last year
I’ve got about 350 summons and they are def not going towards this lol. Hoping for a nice banner and hopefully I’ll have around 500 by that point so you can summon them for me
So how fast after Queen of Roses goes on test server can we have an eval to determine if we should drop 250 summons for her? :D
Isn't Magmus a reskinned Ajax?
So they took skillwise chaos unit, visually infernal units and made it into nightmare unit XD
Do you ever help on personal accounts? I've been struggling to crack GR 1-2-3 lvl19 and up for so long. It's keeping me from the gear I really need to progress the game.
every single day. but it is only available for purchase. details on my discord server, link in the description
Arrogance is Already A5 I think his A4 adds rage regen per attack already
haha yes
@@fastidious_gg thought you've missed it
Haha we continue to save for the Rose Queen .... Btw what happened to Helga or whatever her name was 😅
Is he the only choice for the right side in stage 6 in gear dungeon 2 ?
left side. and I havent seen ronaldo's vid yet but ardea is a great choice. also for stage 6, you need magic there as well so it isn't a simple as just inserting one hero
Midmus still better than nothing?? Thanks for the info!
What stats got ur abomination? Full dps or tanky?
I'm on day 4 , should I build him or wait for abomination?
r u still playing? abom is always gonna be better than this piece of shit legendary
What sense does it make to have a character like this with the kit he has and does absolutely no burning damage???
Bro I think Magmus is the one riding Ajax. Just got both of them and I thought they're kind of similar.
ajax IS the man riding the dragon, not the dragon.
@@fastidious_gg you're right. But similarities in design is kinda sus to me.
@@kayeen8078 fair shout for sure. maybe they are in the same family or army or something
I really need hollow so of course I will get.gim...100%
I kinda want him just because he looks cool, I'm not a huge meta follower personally
He does look awesome
Need some help people don’t know who to invest in just pulled my A2 aracha I have arrogance and Uriden Valkyre and valeriya who should I be investing in cheers ❤❤
Arrogance then valk then valeriya then uredin then aracha
He has a cool name, if nothing else.
Also really looks badass
Can we please get some more DHSG content. Asking for a friend.
new vid tomorrow
@@fastidious_gg can’t wait. I was going crazy checking your channel for updates to see what you did with your 216 summon and anymore tips.
@@kendalgraves4598 I already have the next two vids filmed. One tomorrow and one Sunday or Monday
I'm ok with not every new hero being ground breaking. However, instead of just making some heroes clearly very powerful, and others very "mid," it would be great it was more about making heroes that are OVERALL "mid" as far as how much content they are good in, BUT who are excellent in some niche content, or who bring some kind of unique ability that allows for some interesting strategies to counter specific problems. For example, if this guy had a passive that gave out shields to any nearby units that can not be healed, then he'd be an interesting part of a ground based AOE team as he'd enable heroes like Cerberus and Atrox to stay up longer, or he could be used to help Valeriya alive while she's ulting.
Counterintuitive indeed. Whoever designed his kit and whoever okayed it I really wonder what they were thinking lol
“He’s not ‘good’ but at least he’s not Azhor.” And here I am pulling Magmus and Azhor on a 1+1 😭
Lol, that's funny. I was litterly looking at wallets this morning
Ayyy it’s a sign
Only reason i will do a couple 10 pulls is for hollow… dont have her
I just have to say i don't really think his passive is bad. I think it's meant for tanking one strong hit (while the dmg reduction is up), then hit hard (well... that's the potential problem here) with retribution and get healed back up for the dmg reduction. I do not think it's reversed or unintuitive. For me the idea is solid. I just think his numbers should be a little more "entertaining" for him to be good for certain content (e.g. void rift).
But please let me know if i get it wrong here :)
Yes I just really disagree with this. Will only be harder for him to get healed up when he is taking damage without increased reductions. Point of a tank is to be full of hp and solid
@@fastidious_gg I do not think he works too well. His stats are not good enough for it. I just like the general idea of that kit. Or more like the idea behind it.
I was gonna toss a few 10 pulls to see if I get lucky, but after seeing Zelus as his banner mate and seeing his kit better explained, I'll pass. Probably get him as an off-banner the next time I pull anyways 😂
lmao too real
I feel like everything from now up to anniversary is a guaranteed skip with the exception of certain new Lords like Iovar but it’s not even the same resources. He looks so damn cool but Zelus is the banner mate… this banner feels unacceptable without Zelus buffs.
Wal3rus “Dude fell off Ajax!”
He should have stayed sat on Ajax.
😂😂
You know a hero isn't good if not at least a couple of content creators make a video about how he's 'breaking the game' or at least a 'must-have'. 😂
because he isn't any of that
I saw it in a video of Ronaldogadza
nice one
Pro tip for everyone!! No shit. Reset Nisalt, regardless if you want him or not. Just rebuild him if wanted, and get the points for Corridor of Glory for free! It works. Just did it. You are welcome 🤗
no doubt - was gonna mention this tomorrow. great tip tobber
@@fastidious_gg #starstruck 😂 thanks Mate 🙌🏼
So 1 + 1 and move on?
basically unless u need hollow. vid on sys will be tomorrow
Yeah
Another dilution to the lego pool. Getting very close to quitting
I feel like alot of new Legendery heroas should just be epic heroes, it sort of destroys the beauty about legenderys
😮
i know
thanks for the guide, its a easy skip for me :D
Good Guy Moonton: fights powercreep by refusing to release heroes that are any better than what we've already had in the game for a year.
I think I'll pass on this banner. I hardly use Zelus and really don't need another Nightmare fighter.
If all heroes were amazing, then everyone would consider most/all heros average
I think your commenter meant counter-intuitive lol
Meh. I'm keeping my powder dry for The Queen of Roses!
same here
"Testidious test server" 💀
yes
I'll stick with my free abomination and save my summons for 1-year anniversary. And yes, Edith is totally trash and of course i pulled her instead of Khamet because that is how it was supposed to be. The epic tanks in her faction are better than her.
Soon moonton will release a tank mm 😂
More like Midmus
feels correct
Hi🤡
hello
This a real demonic game every character has horns looking like devil's everywhere wth going on with this game creator?
Trash, complete money grab. But you put a stop to that, lol
U biggest sellout on yt i seen from wor to wallets,
stingytidious
Wtf dude ? Let bro make a living ffs 🤨🤦🏻♂️
This game HAS GOT to start making HP and Defense damage scaling hero. Having 90% of the hero’s needing the exact same gear is getting so damn old.
they them they just are super weak