Thanks for everyone pointing out it has touch support. It would seem the EU market or at least this Spanish localised version I got does NOT have touch support. And yes I did check it was one of the first things I did. Windows shows no hardware device issues or driver issues. WIndows also shows no touch or pen support as per device manager and Windows/System/About tab. So if you can get one with touch awesome! That's one Con of the list, thanks for watching and reading! 😃
Hey, Great content btw, just wanted to point out some things that you may missed when using Manjaro, The wifi and bluetooth seem to be working since on clicking the network icon lists "available networks" that lists all available wifi networks to choose from. Bluetooth also seems to be working on manjaro its just disabled, clicking the bluetooth icon should reveal an option to enable it. The display driver may need to be switched in manjaro settings. From my understanding in the case of linux display drivers for amd socs and wifi,bluetooth drivers first arrive on linux and then only on windows.
@@Techtabletsinitially aoostar confirmed will be launch in Oct. However they said will delayed and no confirm date yet. They also reveal a crazy project which is 6 bay NAS using 8845HS . It might have oculink too I cant attach their mobo board design here
Sorry for this once i skipped to the benchmark before the full video chris 😂 And wow it's good, can't wait for the 20+ cu models to come (esp for mini pc)
Very interesting and power efficient new amd chip, looking forward seeing it in a not restricted and very expensive asus body. Thank you for the very detailed reviews, much more detailed than many others
Same here would be better to quote SDR brightness like some brands do this and for example the Honor Magicbook Pro 16. It was SDR and brighter than they quote.
Great video as always, thanks for sharing. Interesting that there's no touch enabled on your sample. Other reviews mention this feature as a plus, perhaps it's a regional thing? Or it was just simply broken 😁
These results are amazing :D Are you sure that in this laptop the maximum CPU power limit is constans 28W? Have you checked how Package Power changes during load? Maybe CPU works initially with higher power for a few minutes. Does CPU not exceed 28W at all and does not drop power during the entire load? (I know that this is the official TDP, but in reality each laptop model has different power limits)
@@Techtablets so these are really great results! In CB R23 at constant 28W Ryzen 9 7940HS has about 12.5k, and Core Ultra 155/185 11k. So this is a huge increase in efficiency/watt. BTW. I wonder how efficiency correlates with power. Did you check at 15W or 45W (with max fan and bottom panel removed)? :D
The good: Single core performance was excellent, improved battery life, full X86 app support, and good ports. The bad: overhyped the battery life, multi-core performance was not as great as expected, video editing is still ok, and the TDP was nurfed a bit.
Spot on your summary! Yes I expected from the 4 more cores to see that multicore score up to at least 15k Geekbench 6, but maybe power limited I hope to test it soon at 45W or 54W.
Thanks so much for another great review. Can you hear the fans at all when doing simple tasks (web browsing, Word etc)? I'm curious if it is possible to ever have the fans not firing up at all? Thank you
@@TechtabletsHey Chris. I used your link to go to an international page and which gave me an option to go to the US Asus page. On that page it does not mention touch screen. But if I independently search the exact model, I found Bestbuy and Asus pages both mention touchscreen. Another reviewer's site also mention that. Check with Asus support. Perhaps you got a defective item. With touchscreen, my score already has gone up.
@@JoeL-xk6bo 😅Um nope mine doesn't. So first thing is I checked hardware device manager no issues, no touch or pen support also stated clearly in Windows System About info. My Spanish unit must be different to the US models which have touch! 110% I have no touch support and no hardware or driver issue that might have caused it to not work.
@@hawkins55 It would seem EU models or my Spanish localised version don't have touch BUT it seems US Models do. I do know how to spot a touchscreen on a laptop, no hardware device touch issues showing. All drivers in order and even Windows System, About states: No touch or Pen support. So rather silly ASUS gave some regions touchscreens and others not. 🤦♂
Have been using wifi7 since it released. When it is working it is stupid fast. Great review, it seems that there are some very large differences between the US model and yours. According to the spec the US should have a touch screen. I would love if asus added the option to tdp up if you have it docked.
Excellent view on this new release from ASUS. I've been looking at the aSUS Zenbook S 16 as one consideration for upgrade, but now your very thorough and informative video has me thinking differently. for similar reasons you present, the minus factors (for me) are: * lack of a touchscreen * maximum bright of only a bit over 300 nits vs the stated specification of 500+ nits * lack of keyboard language choice (as can be done by Apple and Dell) * Only 1 SSD slot * RAM soldered. To clarify, I am up in age (but still spunky 😉). A touch screen useful for my eyesight when I want to pinch to zoom in on articles in my news feeds without having to use glasses. Relatedly, higher nits equates to higher brightness / contrast viewing text. The keyboard issue is because I live in Japan. ASUS does not offer Keyboard options as do Apple and Dell. I can work with a Japanese keyboard (I know Japanese) but prefer not to for reasons of relocated keys '@', '+' etc. So, I either need to order from the U.S. or deal with the local JP keyboards. Of course I reckon I could use an English BT keyboard, but, convenience. Two SSD slots is ideal fir video production work for storage and sufficient space. A second SSD with 4%B and the first SSD with 1TB for OS, Apps with 'breathing room' to spare. I would prefer 64GB RAM especially if all soldered down, but 32GB would be minimally acceptable. In consideration of my preferences, would you have an alternate model to recommend be it ASUS, Lenovo, Dell (don't like their cursoe key integration)) that might have the specs I seek?, 16" touch, 64GB RAM (or 16, 32 upgradeable), dual SSD slots, similarly large track pad. and preferably to stick with an AMD? Also Thunderbolt 4 ports is a must for external devices, TB4 hub/dock, PD, etc. AMD's USB4 ports though will suffice as I have a Minisforum UM790M which has 7840HS / 780M graphics and USB4 ports. Externatl connectivity is not a problem. I am looking to upgrade the mobility side of computing. Cheers, Jerry, Tokyo.
Can you include opinions about how hot it gets when used heavily/moderate (for this laptop and future ones)? I had a Lenovo Slim laptop once and it always got scorching hot at the bottom, being impossible to place it on my lap when I was video editing.
I showed the internal thermals and also talked about when pushed very hard it will hit 48 degrees just about the keyboard quite toasty! And the underside to around 45 degrees when gaming and exporting video so hot but within limits. It's above the keyboard that was the hottest part.
Will this suffice as a main video editing laptop? I'm using DaVinci Resolve and thought about getting a MacBook Pro M2-Pro as the M-chips are optimized for DaVinci, but I would much rather stick with windows
Yoo! Just a tip, the Linux support for the wireless card works fine. The mt76 module has been in the Kernel since 6.7 you just gonna load it. I am running that same chipset (MT7925) right now fine. It's honestly so much easier to target Ubuntu if you want to establish baseline Linux support ootb. I'd have spoken about the NPU more in that regard!
Thank you for reviewing this, I'd like a computer which to use outside, play, read, use otherwise. I have learnt it needs at least 600 nits. At this moment Apple MacBooks seem to be the only ones that have the nits they tell. Now I have Steam Deck led, fun to play outside in the sun even. web use is little slower than with a computer.
Thank you for highlighting the TDP; it was very important and shows that this device is not particularly exciting for gamers. I hope there will be other devices that utilize a higher TDP and thus better exploit the performance of the 370.
It's not listed in the specs but there might be an ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts the screen brightness and might have caused the max brightness to be measured lower than what is claimed.
Thanks as always I'm afraid that there's a thermal reason that it's capped at 28W Now I don't know If I'll pick up the Rog Ally X or wait around September to see new (campaigns from indiegogo I believe) handhelds with this chip
THsoe handhelds will be great because we get more performance of less wattage. But yes hitting 94-95 degrees is in this thin laptop is what limits them using 45W but let's see what the ASUS ProArt 16 can do I think it's set to 45W.
Absolutely, i'm curious to see your next ProArt review and what this chip can do with software optimization in the future Thanks for your honest thoughts 🙌
Forget this ship and buy rog ally X. 25w turbo : 3032 time spy graphics. And no this is performance mode at 28w. You have also 55w mode: 3671 graphics 10 300 Cpu
I like the dust filters. Nice touch. I like the lack of touch screen. All the smudging and meh. Why just one min of video rendering? Is your video one min long? I don't get it. I realize you might be busy, but one min? Why not a full video like this one? See how it really does under actual workload and not a one min clip. Anyway, good video, I am glad you mention the lower TDP which most likely hurt performance of the chip. Not many mention it. Thanks for the review.
@@Techtablets 8GB or more. But it seems there's no official support for iGPUs or integrated NPUs. Even official support for non nVidia discrete video cards for it is lagging way behind.
@@sixclawsif amd rocm supports it then yes.. rocm only officially supports a small handful of chipsets without messing with setting environment variables and things like that.. the new chip looks powerful though so hopefully amd gives it the support it deserves
@@sixclaws i use rocm with 8gb amd igpu and while its fast for general AI tasks, it still takes about 10 minutes to generate a picture of a cat :p .. i think this more of a rocm + software support issue than the chipset itself.. nvidia cuda has much more better support and amd has not caught up yet
Hi! From the processor standpoint, how does it compare to an intel i9 13900H in the asus zenbook pro 14? I was interested in this specific model. Who is faster between the two? I'm mainly interested in multitasking, having lots of tabs open at the same time, using tradingview, possibly connecting an additional monitor... no gaming, just multitasking and trading. I don't know if this use is more related to single core or multi core, if you could aknowledge me about it I would be grateful 🤣 Thanks and good week!
Okay so if you edit video a lot and use Adobe Premier Pro the Lunar Lake isa bit faster. But if you plan to game a little then the 890M in the HX 370 is much better!
@@Techtablets Thanks for the kind response. Are the heating issues in Zenbook S16 a cause for worry. I am going to use the laptop for work, movies, and moderate football gaming.
07:37 Here in Europe it is advertised with a touch function in the Asus online shop. Touch OLED including make-up mirror😂 Why Asus, why not with anti reflective Corning Gorilla Glass with DX?? (like in the galaxy book 4 pro)
Hi, I don't get the difference between this one at 1999$ and the vivobook with the same specs at 1599$? Does anyone knows ? For 1999, shouldn't be better to go for a lenovo 7i with i9 14900hx and 4070? Maybe my questions are dumb but I'm really lost. Coming from a desktop with ryzen 5 3600 and 3060ti and looking for a portable solution for Adobe suite and music production without any lag. Not considering Apple because of compatibility and impossible to crack some softwares. Regards
Eu Spanish version has no touch and pen support. Others are possibly just quoting Asus brightness figures I’m measuring it with my Spyder X Pro playing HDR content I get 352 notifications ta full brightness on power. It is what it is that’s my reading or you prefer I just say 550 nits without checking?
@@Techtablets The other reviewer also used the Spyder X Pro and got 499 nits. Could that be related to the HDR setting? I have no idea which mode is supposed to score higher. It's concerning how different these laptop specs are coming out in reviews considering how locked down they are. I mean you can't even choose the RAM or SSD size. I would have thought that since Asus send you the laptop they would have included a note about the touch & digitizer considering everyone else is saying it's there. I mean you don't just review these for the Spanish market do you?
@@Techtablets The Spanish website states that the S16 does have a touchscreen btw. For me in Sweden is states it does not mention it and the store specifically stays that it does not have a touch screen. Erghh, I guess I will have to email them...
This cpu performs as well as a r5 7600 but uses a fraction of the power. I think more reviewers should add in low end to mid tier desktop models when making benchmark comparison. Also, on the US site the laptop models have touchscreens.
Just looking again at the offical website defiantly no stylus with my mode reviewed which is the EU model. Maybe you saw the ProArt 16 video that has the stylus and touch support?
lookslike your sample is a bit bugged, or is it all the drivers, but I saw much better result of this exact ( probably only one type of reviewed ) Strix laptop today... Edit: also touch display working on others...
Definatly no touch with this Spanish market unit I have. Windows clearly states No pen or touch support. Drivers are all fine no issues but glad all other markets get the touch support.
@@Techtablets Well I liked ur review very much it was a deep as well as easy to understand.....can you make a video of this device with the snapdragon based laptops and any Intel ultra based laptops so we can get a clear picture of where does this device stands in terms of performance. thank you
These are ultrabooks, premium for sure, but not gaming or pro machines so 32GB is probably overkill for the majority and a second drive is not essential as it would be for gaming or pro work. The Pro Art (pro ASUS machines) reviews will come next week and they are the ones that will hopefully have more RAM and storage options maybe including a good dGPU.
@@andyH_England Yes and they would want people to jump into the more expensive models for that option. But still it would have been a nice bonus to have that spare SSD slot. I'll have my ProArt 16 review next week, this laptop seems to check all boxes! 4k OLED, RTX 4070, HX 370 better cooling etc etc
@@Techtablets I am software engineer and afraid of burnin because I use a lot static content on screen 8 hours per day. It pisses me off that all premium laptops now have OLED
I have a different panel in this Spanish version. Also Notebookchecks unit has no touch like mine. Playing back HDR video measure with my Spyder X Pro I got 352 nits with it plugged in and max brightness. I’m just reporting my finding here.
@@Techtablets Understand that you are reporting what you have, however you are implying they don't have touchscreens and the Nits are lower than others have reported, that's all. Only thing I can think is the 16gb version doesn't have touch and the 32gb does.
My deal breaker with this is the lack of a second SSD slot and the lackluster port selection. Should've had 1 more USB-A and 1 more USB-C with a 2nd M.2 slot. No matter however slim you make it, its still a 16 inch machine....
Good for overall use not for gaming of course it's like the discrete rx560x from 2017. Power limit is very important as you mentioned for GPU performance...needs better cooling flow for more power from gpu....but intel and Snapdragon integrated gpus are better, let me know if you can make a video or a comment??
Will this laptop (the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 With Radeon 890M Model) be able to handle architecture and design 3d modelling and 3d rendering software such as AutoCAD, 3D Studio Max, Lumion? Has anyone tried and how were the results?
The Honor magicbook pro 16 I just reviewed gets it in SDR. Matebook X Pro the same and running hdr video I didn’t measure anywhere near 550 or over 350 bits with my Spyder x pro.
I tired it today and unfortunately it’s not supported yet the slider can be set but nothing actually takes yet. Maybe soon but really the laptop hasn’t the thermal headroom for it.
Yes more kitten in other videos! But honestly reviews I always include my cats I have Vera who has been my star for about 12 years now as the model for camera samples.
@@Techtablets oh I know. I've seen some quite a few time. But kittens! I don't remember having seen that one 😍 Unfortunate for the tool. We will get less thermally limited laptop soon-ish, so we can wait to test the 890M properly. ;)
8 hours for battery life with light use??? Is it just me or does that seem extremely low? I see all those X elite laptops claiming up to "26 hours," and even some other reviewers saying "16 hours" for this zenbook s16. Who's right?
Guh yes THIS in a mini pc with 60+W of power plus 96 GB ddr5 plus a pcie5 nvme plus a 4080/12GB or whatever eating 150W would be LOTS of power in a tiny tiny thing :>
for the price they are asking we can buy zenbook duo for productivity or a gaming laptop with dedicated graphics the price really doesn't justify the improved battery life and slight bump in performance and the saddest part is intel will also follow up with same if not even more starting price 😢
Okay well because I'm use to it with my laptops if they have glass screens it's normally got touch. But according to many seems other markets have the touch support.
Yes, the Snapdragon was the first to release an AI laptop and everybody got excited but of course first does not mean it will be the best of 2024. I expect the M4 and Intel to beat the X Elite and by the end of the year it will be the worst! Not that there is anything really to push it at the moment, but it does show how powerful a billion-dollar marketing budget has as people gloated about their new X Elite AI capabilities.
@@andyH_Englandyah, it seems like the wiser option is to wait and see how their tech evolves.. for now amd seems to have hit the sweet spot between intel and arm
Not quite depends on the region look at my version. HX 370 with and no touch .I think it must be the other way around HX 365 you get touch. HX 370 non touch.
Looks like these S16 review models are NOT the same. You said no touchscreen. At least 4 other reviewers said and showed touchscreen on their S16. Two of them also showed the stylus working and included with S16 purchase! Another thing is you measured 352 NITS brightness on the screen, another you tuber measured 392 nits, a third one 422 nits, AND The Tech Chap measured: 495 NITS IN SDR and 793 NITS IN HDR! So which specs are the REAL ones?! Which are representative of the model we can buy?! IT IS REALLY NOT THE SAME IF YOU GET 352 NITS AND NO TOUCHSCREEN OR 793 NITS WITH TOUCHSCREEN AND STYLUS FOR THE SAME MONEY!
Region differences it seems. My version is the Spanish model with a downgraded brightness non-touch panel BUT the HX 370. I see some reviewers got the HX 365 with the 880M and not 890M very odd the mix and match of chipset and screens used. Of course I didn't know this until I watched others reviews published and the comments from people saying I was wrong it has touch and is over 550 nits bright the screen. But not mine.
@@TechtabletsI got a German version of the HX 370. It has touch but no stylus in the box. However, there are no Studio Effects! Nothing in the camera setting nor in the quick settings. So blurring background etc does not work. Obviously Asus support is not responding.
Also no touch devices listed in device manager, Windows system about info panel states: Pen and touch - No Pen or touch input is available for this display.
etaprime's laptop seems to have touch and came with stylus too plus different charger. if asus does the same crap as previous models its no wonder the quality of the laptop. EU models have lower quality than US ones
Asus screwed an excellent device coz of their affection with intel in India. Had it been ryzen 7 or 9 processor in India this would have been one of the top selling device. In India they selling only with intel chipset.
Can’t wait to watch this later. Seems like a better buy than snapdragon. Want to know the battery life comparison. And also waiting for lunar lake, hope it’s a better chip from intel than 13,14 gen desktop chip that has no fix.
Better battery life form the Snapdragon but this has much better graphics performance. Lunar Lakes very promising and we will find out soon enough! Thanks for watching.
Just watched it. Kinda disappointing for 28w and lower than 500 nits, tandom oled would be nice, if that can get about 1000 nits HDR. X elite and X plus seems to be the value buy for general work, this does better in games, definitely waiting for the next legion go with strix point, or some mini pc with this.
Thanks for everyone pointing out it has touch support. It would seem the EU market or at least this Spanish localised version I got does NOT have touch support. And yes I did check it was one of the first things I did. Windows shows no hardware device issues or driver issues. WIndows also shows no touch or pen support as per device manager and Windows/System/About tab. So if you can get one with touch awesome! That's one Con of the list, thanks for watching and reading! 😃
Hey, Great content btw, just wanted to point out some things that you may missed when using Manjaro, The wifi and bluetooth seem to be working since on clicking the network icon lists "available networks" that lists all available wifi networks to choose from. Bluetooth also seems to be working on manjaro its just disabled, clicking the bluetooth icon should reveal an option to enable it. The display driver may need to be switched in manjaro settings. From my understanding in the case of linux display drivers for amd socs and wifi,bluetooth drivers first arrive on linux and then only on windows.
Oh dear silly mistake, yes it would seem I missed that running on barely any sleep sorry about that.
Dear does it support thunderbolt for external gpu?
eGPU yes!
@@Techtablets thanks
How can a techtablets video be better? With a kitten. Great work once again Chris
Ah yes little snow jumped up when I was filming so I had to use that! Thanks for watching.
Amazing video once again. Great to see a real review.
I appreciate that and just seen your real review which is the best on UA-cam.
Thank you for including a Linux section in your review! As a Linux user, I genuinely appreciate it!
My pleasure!
Great content keep it up as always Chris Sir
Much appreciated
thanks for taking the time to test Linux support!
You’re welcome
Best Review Ever! I appreciate the sample usage examples in this video!!
i could not wait for Mini PC with Strix Point now !
bigger size, better room for temperature and higher power for better performance
Hopefully end of the year but likely Q1 2025.
@@Techtabletsinitially aoostar confirmed will be launch in Oct. However they said will delayed and no confirm date yet.
They also reveal a crazy project which is 6 bay NAS using 8845HS . It might have oculink too
I cant attach their mobo board design here
Beelink SER9 On sale now on Amazon and other retailers.
The coming wave of mini PC's with that chip are going to be mind blowing seeing as they will have the cooling to run ballz to the wall.
They will be great for sure.
Sorry for this once i skipped to the benchmark before the full video chris 😂
And wow it's good, can't wait for the 20+ cu models to come (esp for mini pc)
No worries it's a super long video so much to cover. But same can't wait to see these chips in a Mini PC and gaming handheld.
Thank you for sharing with us this new AMD series
More to come!
Very interesting and power efficient new amd chip, looking forward seeing it in a not restricted and very expensive asus body. Thank you for the very detailed reviews, much more detailed than many others
Thanks. Yes I hope to see it running at least 45W in the ProArt 16 I should have next week.
The 550 nits is HDR so SDR will be a lot lower. I wish they would not mislead people by quoting HDR as 99% of the time we are watching SDR.
Same here would be better to quote SDR brightness like some brands do this and for example the Honor Magicbook Pro 16. It was SDR and brighter than they quote.
thanks for the linux test!
You're the best for trying linux on these devices!
You’re welcome.
Great video as always, thanks for sharing. Interesting that there's no touch enabled on your sample. Other reviews mention this feature as a plus, perhaps it's a regional thing? Or it was just simply broken 😁
Regional. And they have the HX 365 with 880M I got the HX 370 with 890M.
Does it also come with the cat 😂
Mine did! 😂😂
These results are amazing :D
Are you sure that in this laptop the maximum CPU power limit is constans 28W? Have you checked how Package Power changes during load? Maybe CPU works initially with higher power for a few minutes. Does CPU not exceed 28W at all and does not drop power during the entire load? (I know that this is the official TDP, but in reality each laptop model has different power limits)
Yes max 28W according to HWINFO, CPUz and ASUS themselves.
@@Techtablets so these are really great results! In CB R23 at constant 28W Ryzen 9 7940HS has about 12.5k, and Core Ultra 155/185 11k. So this is a huge increase in efficiency/watt.
BTW. I wonder how efficiency correlates with power. Did you check at 15W or 45W (with max fan and bottom panel removed)? :D
The good: Single core performance was excellent, improved battery life, full X86 app support, and good ports.
The bad: overhyped the battery life, multi-core performance was not as great as expected, video editing is still ok, and the TDP was nurfed a bit.
Spot on your summary! Yes I expected from the 4 more cores to see that multicore score up to at least 15k Geekbench 6, but maybe power limited I hope to test it soon at 45W or 54W.
Thanks so much for another great review. Can you hear the fans at all when doing simple tasks (web browsing, Word etc)? I'm curious if it is possible to ever have the fans not firing up at all? Thank you
550 nits is the rated *peak* only brightness and only in HDR mode.
Great review. Once again ASUS has built a great laptop. Wish for a touch screen.
YEs they only thing off with it is no tocuhscreen I would love to have seen that and a spare M.2 Pcie 4.0 slot.
it has a touch screen, this guy's is either broken or he cannot troubleshoot it.
@@TechtabletsHey Chris. I used your link to go to an international page and which gave me an option to go to the US Asus page. On that page it does not mention touch screen. But if I independently search the exact model, I found Bestbuy and Asus pages both mention touchscreen. Another reviewer's site also mention that. Check with Asus support. Perhaps you got a defective item. With touchscreen, my score already has gone up.
@@JoeL-xk6bo 😅Um nope mine doesn't. So first thing is I checked hardware device manager no issues, no touch or pen support also stated clearly in Windows System About info. My Spanish unit must be different to the US models which have touch! 110% I have no touch support and no hardware or driver issue that might have caused it to not work.
@@hawkins55 It would seem EU models or my Spanish localised version don't have touch BUT it seems US Models do. I do know how to spot a touchscreen on a laptop, no hardware device touch issues showing. All drivers in order and even Windows System, About states: No touch or Pen support. So rather silly ASUS gave some regions touchscreens and others not. 🤦♂
how to compare it with the Snapdragon X-Elite version, which better ?
this amd outperforms the snapdragon x elite at the moment for AI performance
Great review thanks ❤
Thanks for watching!
Have been using wifi7 since it released. When it is working it is stupid fast. Great review, it seems that there are some very large differences between the US model and yours. According to the spec the US should have a touch screen. I would love if asus added the option to tdp up if you have it docked.
Excellent view on this new release from ASUS. I've been looking at the aSUS Zenbook S 16 as one consideration for upgrade, but now your very thorough and informative video has me thinking differently. for similar reasons you present, the minus factors (for me) are:
* lack of a touchscreen
* maximum bright of only a bit over 300 nits vs the stated specification of 500+ nits
* lack of keyboard language choice (as can be done by Apple and Dell)
* Only 1 SSD slot
* RAM soldered.
To clarify, I am up in age (but still spunky 😉). A touch screen useful for my eyesight when I want to pinch to zoom in on articles in my news feeds without having to use glasses. Relatedly, higher nits equates to higher brightness / contrast viewing text.
The keyboard issue is because I live in Japan. ASUS does not offer Keyboard options as do Apple and Dell. I can work with a Japanese keyboard (I know Japanese) but prefer not to for reasons of relocated keys '@', '+' etc. So, I either need to order from the U.S. or deal with the local JP keyboards. Of course I reckon I could use an English BT keyboard, but, convenience.
Two SSD slots is ideal fir video production work for storage and sufficient space. A second SSD with 4%B and the first SSD with 1TB for OS, Apps with 'breathing room' to spare.
I would prefer 64GB RAM especially if all soldered down, but 32GB would be minimally acceptable.
In consideration of my preferences, would you have an alternate model to recommend be it ASUS, Lenovo, Dell (don't like their cursoe key integration)) that might have the specs I seek?, 16" touch, 64GB RAM (or 16, 32 upgradeable), dual SSD slots, similarly large track pad. and preferably to stick with an AMD? Also Thunderbolt 4 ports is a must for external devices, TB4 hub/dock, PD, etc. AMD's USB4 ports though will suffice as I have a Minisforum UM790M which has 7840HS / 780M graphics and USB4 ports. Externatl connectivity is not a problem. I am looking to upgrade the mobility side of computing. Cheers, Jerry, Tokyo.
Can you include opinions about how hot it gets when used heavily/moderate (for this laptop and future ones)? I had a Lenovo Slim laptop once and it always got scorching hot at the bottom, being impossible to place it on my lap when I was video editing.
I showed the internal thermals and also talked about when pushed very hard it will hit 48 degrees just about the keyboard quite toasty! And the underside to around 45 degrees when gaming and exporting video so hot but within limits. It's above the keyboard that was the hottest part.
Will this suffice as a main video editing laptop? I'm using DaVinci Resolve and thought about getting a MacBook Pro M2-Pro as the M-chips are optimized for DaVinci, but I would much rather stick with windows
I’ve been using it with Premier Pro and editing 4k videos no issues.
@@Techtablets did you edit bigger and more demanding projects as well? In the Video the timeline was very simple
Yoo! Just a tip, the Linux support for the wireless card works fine. The mt76 module has been in the Kernel since 6.7 you just gonna load it. I am running that same chipset (MT7925) right now fine. It's honestly so much easier to target Ubuntu if you want to establish baseline Linux support ootb. I'd have spoken about the NPU more in that regard!
Thanks yes the wifi card will work. I like Manjaro myself so stick with that one.
Hate when any company lies about brightness and other important things. Nice notebook with not nice price, nice review, thanks!
Thank you for reviewing this, I'd like a computer which to use outside, play, read, use otherwise. I have learnt it needs at least 600 nits. At this moment Apple MacBooks seem to be the only ones that have the nits they tell. Now I have Steam Deck led, fun to play outside in the sun even. web use is little slower than with a computer.
Thank you for highlighting the TDP; it was very important and shows that this device is not particularly exciting for gamers. I hope there will be other devices that utilize a higher TDP and thus better exploit the performance of the 370.
For a dedicated but portable editing workstation of 4K footage, would this be a great device or should I pay more for the Proart P16?
It's not listed in the specs but there might be an ambient light sensor that automatically adjusts the screen brightness and might have caused the max brightness to be measured lower than what is claimed.
Thanks as always
I'm afraid that there's a thermal reason that it's capped at 28W
Now I don't know If I'll pick up the Rog Ally X or wait around September to see new (campaigns from indiegogo I believe) handhelds with this chip
THsoe handhelds will be great because we get more performance of less wattage. But yes hitting 94-95 degrees is in this thin laptop is what limits them using 45W but let's see what the ASUS ProArt 16 can do I think it's set to 45W.
I'll defiantly be buying the Ally X but same as me not sure if I should for a HX 370 handheld.
Absolutely, i'm curious to see your next ProArt review and what this chip can do with software optimization in the future
Thanks for your honest thoughts 🙌
@@Evenmixer Next week! Thansk so much for watching.
Forget this ship and buy rog ally X. 25w turbo : 3032 time spy graphics. And no this is performance mode at 28w. You have also 55w mode: 3671 graphics 10 300 Cpu
I like the dust filters. Nice touch.
I like the lack of touch screen. All the smudging and meh.
Why just one min of video rendering? Is your video one min long? I don't get it. I realize you might be busy, but one min? Why not a full video like this one? See how it really does under actual workload and not a one min clip.
Anyway, good video, I am glad you mention the lower TDP which most likely hurt performance of the chip. Not many mention it.
Thanks for the review.
Since it's possible to assign more RAM to the iGPU. Does this means there's a chance this could run an offline version of Stable Diffusion?
I think so. How much would it need?
@@Techtablets 8GB or more. But it seems there's no official support for iGPUs or integrated NPUs. Even official support for non nVidia discrete video cards for it is lagging way behind.
@@sixclawsif amd rocm supports it then yes.. rocm only officially supports a small handful of chipsets without messing with setting environment variables and things like that.. the new chip looks powerful though so hopefully amd gives it the support it deserves
@@sixclaws i use rocm with 8gb amd igpu and while its fast for general AI tasks, it still takes about 10 minutes to generate a picture of a cat :p .. i think this more of a rocm + software support issue than the chipset itself.. nvidia cuda has much more better support and amd has not caught up yet
the SKU inconsistency is strange. Here in the netherlands theres only a ryzen 365 sku, btw does it get hot on the lap?
Hi!
From the processor standpoint, how does it compare to an intel i9 13900H in the asus zenbook pro 14?
I was interested in this specific model.
Who is faster between the two?
I'm mainly interested in multitasking, having lots of tabs open at the same time, using tradingview, possibly connecting an additional monitor... no gaming, just multitasking and trading.
I don't know if this use is more related to single core or multi core, if you could aknowledge me about it I would be grateful 🤣
Thanks and good week!
Fast single core and far superior intergrated GPU. It would get it over the 13900H model
@@Techtabletsthank you very much! 🙂
Just a question for whoever own this laptop and play Diablo 4….how is the igpu doing?fps?
Great review of a great laptop! I think these are the ones to get, at least until Intel's Lunar Lake releases a a few months.
Same and let's see what Lunar Lake can do.
hi! will i be able to install regular games, for example fortnite? or only those adapted to this processor?
Yes it will I stall and run
This Zenbook S16 HX370 or the Zenbook S14 Intel Lunar Lake? Both are priced similar in our market.
Help me decide.
Okay so if you edit video a lot and use Adobe Premier Pro the Lunar Lake isa bit faster. But if you plan to game a little then the 890M in the HX 370 is much better!
@@Techtablets Thanks for the kind response. Are the heating issues in Zenbook S16 a cause for worry. I am going to use the laptop for work, movies, and moderate football gaming.
First time I heard a Zenbook S 16 not being touchscreen. Defective unit may be?
No Spain doesn’t get the touchscreen
may I ask, is the touchpad haptic or does it just click at the bottom ?
This or the hp spectre x360 14-inch? Is the upgrade in cpu worth it? I’m a software engineering student
I think it is I would get this.
Review the OnePlus pad 2. More about it's gaming performance and emulation please
Hi they didn’t send me one and if I buy it by the time I get it, it will not be worth it.
@@Techtablets ok man cool
07:37 Here in Europe it is advertised with a touch function in the Asus online shop. Touch OLED including make-up mirror😂 Why Asus, why not with anti reflective Corning Gorilla Glass with DX?? (like in the galaxy book 4 pro)
Interesting mine does not have touch, Spain only? Yes that glass would be nice.
@@Techtablets just seen on the asus website only the hx370 version comes with touch oled.
The eGPU will work with this machine?
Yes it will.
Can the screen open up to 180 degrees?
No I show it towards the end it's about 150 degrees.
I see very little advantages over say a 8945hs particularly if that machine has a dedicated GPU.
Well if it has a dedicated GPU it should be more powerful (RTX 4050/4060 etc)
@@Techtablets8945 HS + 4050/4060? Definitely, without a shadow of a doubt.
Hi, I don't get the difference between this one at 1999$ and the vivobook with the same specs at 1599$? Does anyone knows ?
For 1999, shouldn't be better to go for a lenovo 7i with i9 14900hx and 4070? Maybe my questions are dumb but I'm really lost.
Coming from a desktop with ryzen 5 3600 and 3060ti and looking for a portable solution for Adobe suite and music production without any lag. Not considering Apple because of compatibility and impossible to crack some softwares.
Regards
Can you make the comparison between amd ryzen ai 370 vs m3 pro in term of performance, video export and games fps
I would if someone would send me a Macbook Pro with M3 Pro sure! But I'm not buying one just for one video
Weird that other people are saying it is a touch screen with digitizer support. Also weird that others are getting around 500 nits brightness
Eu Spanish version has no touch and pen support. Others are possibly just quoting Asus brightness figures I’m measuring it with my Spyder X Pro playing HDR content I get 352 notifications ta full brightness on power. It is what it is that’s my reading or you prefer I just say 550 nits without checking?
@@Techtablets The other reviewer also used the Spyder X Pro and got 499 nits. Could that be related to the HDR setting? I have no idea which mode is supposed to score higher. It's concerning how different these laptop specs are coming out in reviews considering how locked down they are. I mean you can't even choose the RAM or SSD size. I would have thought that since Asus send you the laptop they would have included a note about the touch & digitizer considering everyone else is saying it's there. I mean you don't just review these for the Spanish market do you?
@@Techtablets The Spanish website states that the S16 does have a touchscreen btw. For me in Sweden is states it does not mention it and the store specifically stays that it does not have a touch screen. Erghh, I guess I will have to email them...
This cpu performs as well as a r5 7600 but uses a fraction of the power. I think more reviewers should add in low end to mid tier desktop models when making benchmark comparison. Also, on the US site the laptop models have touchscreens.
Yes some great power for the wattage. Unfortunately no U processors on hand and now I have to return this tomorrow.
Nice battery life,the zen 5c cores in the chip compete well with 13,14 th gen intel chips on battery life(light use)..
thats not saying much....
Strange, the unpacking video by Asus shows that it has pen support, so it should also have touch support.
Odd! Maybe different region or model with touch and pen. But mine has no touch support at all.
Just looking again at the offical website defiantly no stylus with my mode reviewed which is the EU model. Maybe you saw the ProArt 16 video that has the stylus and touch support?
@@Techtablets Possibly. Notebookcheck's machine also doesn't have touch.
@@torpedospurs Oka yso US/CA model ahs the HX 365 and touch support so that explains it.
im a bit dissapointed about the ram config...
theres no 64,96GB ram config for more demanding AI usage
I had hoped for at least 64GB config but 32GB only for now.
lookslike your sample is a bit bugged, or is it all the drivers, but I saw much better result of this exact ( probably only one type of reviewed ) Strix laptop today...
Edit: also touch display working on others...
Definatly no touch with this Spanish market unit I have. Windows clearly states No pen or touch support. Drivers are all fine no issues but glad all other markets get the touch support.
Hey it does have touch support... I just saw in another video?
Not my version but yes the US/CA version has touch and pen support.
@@Techtablets Well I liked ur review very much it was a deep as well as easy to understand.....can you make a video of this device with the snapdragon based laptops and any Intel ultra based laptops so we can get a clear picture of where does this device stands in terms of performance. thank you
32 GB is probably enough but I don't understand why no 2nd M2 2280 free space in those laptops. That's one of the reasons I did order a 8845hs mini pc
32GB for most people will be good but I would still love to see a 64GB model and yes another 2280 M.2 slot would have made it almost perfect!
These are ultrabooks, premium for sure, but not gaming or pro machines so 32GB is probably overkill for the majority and a second drive is not essential as it would be for gaming or pro work. The Pro Art (pro ASUS machines) reviews will come next week and they are the ones that will hopefully have more RAM and storage options maybe including a good dGPU.
@@andyH_England Yes and they would want people to jump into the more expensive models for that option. But still it would have been a nice bonus to have that spare SSD slot. I'll have my ProArt 16 review next week, this laptop seems to check all boxes! 4k OLED, RTX 4070, HX 370 better cooling etc etc
@@Techtablets Yes, they have to differentiate pro from ultrabooks for a balanced business model. Frustrating as that is, it is understandable.
From the view of the internals they used up a lot of space for those six speakers. Yes I too would rather have worse speakers and a second SSD slot.
dream laptop: this without oled screen and with Airjet for cooling
You don’t like OLED screens?
@@Techtablets I am software engineer and afraid of burnin because I use a lot static content on screen 8 hours per day. It pisses me off that all premium laptops now have OLED
I thought other reviews have a touch screen and measured 490 nits on Max brightness. Aussie version on JB HiFi is touch screen on specs.
I have a different panel in this Spanish version. Also Notebookchecks unit has no touch like mine. Playing back HDR video measure with my Spyder X Pro I got 352 nits with it plugged in and max brightness. I’m just reporting my finding here.
@@Techtablets Understand that you are reporting what you have, however you are implying they don't have touchscreens and the Nits are lower than others have reported, that's all.
Only thing I can think is the 16gb version doesn't have touch and the 32gb does.
My deal breaker with this is the lack of a second SSD slot and the lackluster port selection. Should've had 1 more USB-A and 1 more USB-C with a 2nd M.2 slot. No matter however slim you make it, its still a 16 inch machine....
Good for overall use not for gaming of course it's like the discrete rx560x from 2017. Power limit is very important as you mentioned for GPU performance...needs better cooling flow for more power from gpu....but intel and Snapdragon integrated gpus are better, let me know if you can make a video or a comment??
drivers will give the igpu better performance later on
I'm sure it will get better but impressive for 28W
Will this laptop (the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 With Radeon 890M Model) be able to handle architecture and design 3d modelling and 3d rendering software such as AutoCAD, 3D Studio Max, Lumion? Has anyone tried and how were the results?
Thx for Linux part.
You're welcome!
Other reviews are saying this does come with a touchscreen... I'm confused.
So some EU models don’t have the touchscreen and pen support. US/CA models do. And it seems they have the HX 365 not the HX 370 my unit has.
Is it intel evo certified?
Weird, some reviews of the same model have touch support, others not.... A driver issue?
Regional differences and they had the HX 365 I got the HX 370.
Probably will wait for Mini PC with higher TDP and larger fan
This chip in a mini pc will be awesome with 60w
By the way: you get 500 nits brightness only in HDR mode like with most other notebooks.
The Honor magicbook pro 16 I just reviewed gets it in SDR. Matebook X Pro the same and running hdr video I didn’t measure anywhere near 550 or over 350 bits with my Spyder x pro.
it has touchscreen model too with pen
Yes but not my unit sadly, or not the EU model.
13:30 would UXTU be able to push it above 28W?
PS. The kitten drew me in. More kittens!
I tired it today and unfortunately it’s not supported yet the slider can be set but nothing actually takes yet. Maybe soon but really the laptop hasn’t the thermal headroom for it.
Yes more kitten in other videos! But honestly reviews I always include my cats I have Vera who has been my star for about 12 years now as the model for camera samples.
@@Techtablets oh I know. I've seen some quite a few time. But kittens! I don't remember having seen that one 😍
Unfortunate for the tool. We will get less thermally limited laptop soon-ish, so we can wait to test the 890M properly. ;)
890m comparable with RTX 2050. Interesting
I can't wait to see what it can do at 45W or 54W.
@@Techtablets From what I have seen, 54w is expected to hover around 4.2k for the timespy graphics score. I could be wrong though.
@@Techtablets I cannot wait for Strix Halo.
If it is 4.2 graphics score for Timespy that is impressive. Hopefully intel lunar lake coming Q3 is even better but I doubt it.
8 hours for battery life with light use??? Is it just me or does that seem extremely low? I see all those X elite laptops claiming up to "26 hours," and even some other reviewers saying "16 hours" for this zenbook s16.
Who's right?
Does it have any heating issues
Thermals are covered in my review it gets warm. There is some throttling but normal and like other laptops. Overall very good.
It's not touch panel ? All other videos i saw about this laptop had touch panel and i am seeing ine without first time in this channel
Eu version I have has no touch. Us models shave it and other regions …
Thank you for Linux testing!!
Guh yes THIS in a mini pc with 60+W of power plus 96 GB ddr5 plus a pcie5 nvme plus a 4080/12GB or whatever eating 150W would be LOTS of power in a tiny tiny thing :>
for the price they are asking we can buy zenbook duo for productivity or a gaming laptop with dedicated graphics
the price really doesn't justify the improved battery life and slight bump in performance
and the saddest part is intel will also follow up with same if not even more starting price 😢
also at $1700 we expect better intel wireless cards instead of buggy mediatech one
I'm sure the Intel version would be yes the same if not more.
So far no issues with the Mediatek card but I'm only using Wifi 6E with it no Wifi 7 router just yet when they come done in price.
Who wants touch support . No thanks, that’s a pro
Okay well because I'm use to it with my laptops if they have glass screens it's normally got touch. But according to many seems other markets have the touch support.
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@@christianr.5868 This is an UltraBook, we do not want touch.
touch matrix adds weight, guess they had a 1.5kg goal
The US Version has(TOUCH DISPLAY).
rare laptop
PC + copilot on this laptop integrated?
Yes it has that just didn't cover it as I have in other videos. I wanted to focus more on the new chipset and laptop as a whole package.
so this thing has higher tops than the snapdragon?
It does yes, the total tops is 80 and 50 from jus the NPU.
Yes, the Snapdragon was the first to release an AI laptop and everybody got excited but of course first does not mean it will be the best of 2024. I expect the M4 and Intel to beat the X Elite and by the end of the year it will be the worst! Not that there is anything really to push it at the moment, but it does show how powerful a billion-dollar marketing budget has as people gloated about their new X Elite AI capabilities.
@@andyH_England They will be trading blows on who is the "top" dog with TOPs for while. But for now this is it until yes maybe the M4 or Lunar Lake?
@@Techtablets thank you for the reply.. amds new offerings are impressive
@@andyH_Englandyah, it seems like the wiser option is to wait and see how their tech evolves.. for now amd seems to have hit the sweet spot between intel and arm
Not sure how 8-9h battery in light test is a pro thing
Maybe just
i order mine with touch screen
Great my ES/EU version has no touch which is odd but most regions have the touch support.
Why MacBooks when gaming are not loud ?? Playing world of warcraft, something emulated etc. why their fans do not kick off?
They are Arm chips and they run much cooler than these x86/x64 chips do.
Sorry but 8 hours under light browsing it’s not enough
It's no ARM chip sadly.
In other reviews under the same conditions it's only 1h behind X Elite when it comes to web surfing.
only the version with AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 Processor comes with TOUCH. If you want touch dont buy the cheaper model with AMD Ryzen AI 9 365
Not quite depends on the region look at my version. HX 370 with and no touch .I think it must be the other way around HX 365 you get touch. HX 370 non touch.
@@Techtabletsi think its purely regional differences. My wife's has touch screen with asus pen included. And its HX370. For Malaysia.
thats suppose to be touchscreen
It is but not with this EU model.
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No one needs a touch screen. It is not practical at all. Instead, it increases the weight and has screen door effects.
US models have touch support.
Looks like these S16 review models are NOT the same. You said no touchscreen. At least 4 other reviewers said and showed touchscreen on their S16. Two of them also showed the stylus working and included with S16 purchase!
Another thing is you measured 352 NITS brightness on the screen, another you tuber measured 392 nits, a third one 422 nits, AND The Tech Chap measured: 495 NITS IN SDR and 793 NITS IN HDR!
So which specs are the REAL ones?! Which are representative of the model we can buy?!
IT IS REALLY NOT THE SAME IF YOU GET 352 NITS AND NO TOUCHSCREEN OR 793 NITS WITH TOUCHSCREEN AND STYLUS FOR THE SAME MONEY!
Region differences it seems. My version is the Spanish model with a downgraded brightness non-touch panel BUT the HX 370. I see some reviewers got the HX 365 with the 880M and not 890M very odd the mix and match of chipset and screens used. Of course I didn't know this until I watched others reviews published and the comments from people saying I was wrong it has touch and is over 550 nits bright the screen. But not mine.
@@TechtabletsI got a German version of the HX 370. It has touch but no stylus in the box. However, there are no Studio Effects! Nothing in the camera setting nor in the quick settings. So blurring background etc does not work.
Obviously Asus support is not responding.
No touch? All other influencers have touch
Seems the Spanish one doesn't get it, you see me touching the screen and nothing happens if other models have it then great one less con!
@@Techtablets weird indeed
Also no touch devices listed in device manager, Windows system about info panel states: Pen and touch - No Pen or touch input is available for this display.
etaprime's laptop seems to have touch and came with stylus too plus different charger. if asus does the same crap as previous models its no wonder the quality of the laptop. EU models have lower quality than US ones
500nitt is hdr peak brightness.
Missing full size keyboard is a huge huge drawback
Asus screwed an excellent device coz of their affection with intel in India. Had it been ryzen 7 or 9 processor in India this would have been one of the top selling device. In India they selling only with intel chipset.
Can’t wait to watch this later. Seems like a better buy than snapdragon. Want to know the battery life comparison.
And also waiting for lunar lake, hope it’s a better chip from intel than 13,14 gen desktop chip that has no fix.
Better battery life form the Snapdragon but this has much better graphics performance. Lunar Lakes very promising and we will find out soon enough! Thanks for watching.
Just watched it. Kinda disappointing for 28w and lower than 500 nits, tandom oled would be nice, if that can get about 1000 nits HDR.
X elite and X plus seems to be the value buy for general work, this does better in games, definitely waiting for the next legion go with strix point, or some mini pc with this.