Thanks, Joe. I know I asked you how to do this years ago and there was not a simple answer. But the worst part is that I couldn't find a comprehensive tutorial on it anywhere, including on THEIR website. It was kind of flying with no wings. So, this is MUCH appreciated. Now, since my "new" computer is 2.5 years old, I don't have the software anymore and will have to find it.
Hi, I am wanting to use the new stand alone Capture one app that allows you to tether to an Ipad. After saving my tethered captures how can I use my X Rite colour checker to ensure accurate colours. A brief explanation would be most appreciated, thank you.
through a TIFF workaround... Capture One is being slow AF to support DNG. Rawterapee supports DNG and is free... Don't even get me started on the 10 year old thread trying to get Capture One to fix the bug in their keystoning tool. I gave up on Capture One. I wanted to like it but man they really dropped the ball.
34:45 In fact, if you hold ''Shift'' while clicking on the ''Open Image'' button, it changes to ''Open Object'' and it opens as a ''Smart Object''. That way, you can always go back into Camera Raw and make changes to the settings (by right-clicking on the layer and choose Edit Contents).
Thank you for the video. If you want to use creative profiles in Lr, such as Adobe or Camera profiles, I guess the color checker would be of no use. Am I correct?
Hi joe I don't see any color checker passport on my preset. Pls. Help me how to install plug ins. I just bought Adobe photoshop lightroom 6. Thank you and have a great shoot.
That is a great video. Thanks. I have however experienced that the x-rite camera profile is crushing details in reds & oranges (saturated colours become over saturated). Have you ever experienced that? I had to redo an entire studio flower arrangements shoot using Adobe standard profile to retain the details in flower petals
yep! I see this on my canon 90D colorchecker profile, very noticable with skintones. From experiementing, I prefer the LrC 'adobe color' profile, using the 'warmest' colourchecker swatch. And for my studio work where I need to match colors including natural dyes, the key part is getting the white balance/exposure - which does seem more accurate with the white swatch (I always thought grey worked better!) and I can rely on the existing adobe color profile! LOL. soo, the color checker is an expensive white card to me!
SRGB to lab? Think you need to change labs. So you are working in ProPhoto & then stripping all color info by converting to SRGB for the lab? Why? Do you not have the CMYK profile of the lab so you can at least soft proof?
I have Lightroom 5 with the ColorChecker Passport installed. The problem I have is when I go to export with preset, put in my information and select ok I get the message, The profile could not be created. Any suggestions
Hi again, I worked out you use a raw file. but now that I have saved the file and restarted when I select the file I made the colour turned black so I turned the dile back to adobe standard . why dosnt it show the colour do you know?
Great video! I hate how adobe moves stuff around. I don't use LR much, and took me a while to figure out where you change profiles has changed. It's now at the top of the development panel in basic, not down near calibration. Not X-Rite's problem, only stating it here in case anyone else runs into this.
prima uitleg, met achtergrond informatie van het waarom [sorry i am Dutch] with little help of google translate: good explanations, background information on why
Hi Newell, For video and drone use, we would recommend the ColorChecker Passport Video. It has targets which are specific for Video use. You can see more information on the Passport Video here: calibrite.com/product/colorchecker-passport-video/ Thank you
Why would they disappear? Do you mean in the JPEG or TIFF file, or in the RAW File? They're not applied directly to the RAW, so yes they would disappear as they're applied in post processing. They are already applied to the converted RAW file so, then you get the setting applied directly to the file.
You don't need profiles for everything. I can understand why the South West would be different from New York State (which I _would_ do) but for most things it's not necessary. Pretty much everything else can be fixed with white balance. That includes seasonal variations due to the angle of the sun. I would apply the profile first and then correct with white balance. I do this every day.
+TheThirdMan After creating a color profile and applying that profile to your images, do you need to keep that profile in LightRoom in order to keep the color corrections? After several shoots wouldn't your profiles start to build up in Lightroom and get a little confusing to organize?
Gil B You do but you only have to do it once or twice. This is my point. You don't need a profile for everything. You need one for daylight (summer) and daylight (winter) as well as one for tungsten and one for flash. If you travel overseas a profile would help too. That's about it. Everything else is easily corrected with white balance which doesn't have to be kept as a profile. Profiling just calibrates the camera. White balance sorts out the colorimetry of the light. You just take a shot of your white balance card or grey card and correct for all in ACR. If you have scenes shot in sunlight and in shade, you just take a white balance for each one of them. Profiling is very useful but doesn't have to be done very often. Just correct your daily variations with white balance. By the way; don't spend big on a white balance card. Just get a cheap one. They work just as well. Paying $50 for a brand name is just crazy. Better yet, use the one on the colorchecker.
Hi I purchased a spyderpro5 calibrator and with it came a color checker passport. but never came with any software. the company said you have to download it from the website. so I did but when I have my picture of the color checker I go into export and then in the DNG Profile Name I entered a name and then select export and it comes up with a message 'unsupported image file format 1-2.jpg'. do you have any idea why that happens? appreciate your feed back.
Thank you for this very nice video. I'm a real estate photographer in Connecticut.I frequently take images and rooms that are painted different colors and have different color temperature light bulbs throughout. Do I shoot the card the color card for each room?
I would shoot the gray card in each room. If you have mixed lighting, shoot it to make the part you want to be neutral more neutral. Then if you have an incandescent in a corner it will look orange but your whole shot won't be changed just to deal with one light.
Hi, I clicked an image of the color checker & went to File>ColorCheckerPassport>Export & this is the error I get: The Profile Could Not be created An unknown error has occurred. If restarting the application does not fix this problem contact technical support. For further information please click on the Learn More button I use a Mac with OS Catalina 10.15.4 and Lr classic 9.2.1 Can someone help me? Best!
I am taking photos to make an profile and when my camera meter is at 0, I am getting signs of clipping. This is happening in full sun and in full shade. Should I be underexposing the photos to make sure I'm not loosing information and shoot with the meter at 0?
So I am a wedding photographer that uses two cameras and have the ColorChecker. I am a little confused on how to use this is my work flow. At this point, it has mostly just sat in my bag. The issues is that I work in many different rooms that will have different lights, to match I may gel my lights to keep everything tungsten or whatever, I also use 4 to 6 lenses typically per wedding. Realistically, if I am shooting by the window where the bride is getting ready then move more into the room for Dad to come in, then move to a new location for portraits, followed by the groom getting ready .... I will have dozens of calibrations per wedding. Do I therefore need to create different color profiles for each shooting location with any lens that I am currently using? Do I have to save each profile permanently to the computer? From a workflow perspective this seems a bit of a nightmare.
You may propably colorcheck just 1-2 locations. Or have an assistant around, showing once in a while (every other room) the color checker and have a lot of calibrated combinations. i dont think however its the perfect solution for any fast changing situation. (reportage, weddings, etc)
honestly? f this colorchecker whitebalance bullsh. do you like warm tones? go for warm tones. you like greenish tones? go for it. as Long as you dont produce Commercial work, you wont Need reproducable Colors
Shoot generic profiles under daylight with no reflections and a cloudless sky. Then use those for your wedding if you like the look. If you have time use the gray card to nail white balance. The dress is probably good enough, though, and if you are shooting raw you can adjust white balance later.
OK, Joe...I'm almost a believer, but help me understand how handle this situation and if the Passport system would help: I take a lot of panoramas of sunsets. My guess is, I would need to take a shot of Passport before I attempt my first pano set. But if I hold the Passport up, it will be in the shadows if it's facing the sunset. So...do I take the picture of the Passport in the shadows, or turn my back to the sunset and take the Passport image that way, with it lit by the sunset? Or would it make a difference? I'm guessing it would, but I can't be sure. Secondly, sunsets change quickly, so how often (if at all, should I re-shoot the Passport for a reference image for the next series of panos? Clearly, the light changes dramatically as we go from the golden hour (or before it) to the blue hour (or beyond that). How would you handle this situation?
You would use a profile you created in midday sunlight. If you would create a profile during sunrise it would neutralize the golden light out you got up so early for :-)
The best option would be to make a dual illuminate profile that includes the coolest shadow and the warmest tone in the scene. Then you'll have to decide where to set your white balance. But the dual illuminate profile will take care of the issue of multiple light sources with regard to the profile.
You said the order of white balance and color profile doesn't matter but at 45:00 you're saying to have a perfect white balance before applying the color profile...so which is it!?????? I'm exhausted trying to figure this OUT!!!
Must you set your camera to a fixed white balance or is it OK to use auto white balance when shooting under similar lighting situations with the same profile?
For fixed scenes, custom white balance is best. For dynamic I'd shoot auto and take a picture of the card under any tricky lighting to use later as reference.
For some reason After loading the software I cant see anything in lightroom under file/export with preset/colorchecker passport. Colorchecker passport is not showing anywhere.. Any idea what Am I doing wrong?
after using color checker passport for some time i collect a high number of profiles - some of them i want to get rid. how can i delete them without loosing the specific adjustments of my photos in the catalog using these delted color checker password profiles? thx for your help.
ok, I get an error msg that ColorChecker cannot detect the crop marks....whatever that means. I cropped the image to totally fill the screen. Nothing. Msg says to use the desktop version of ColorChecker. I did that too. Same error msg.
+Warren Zerr I had that problem. It was because I had photographed the passport in landscape. If you rotate your image so that it is in portrait orientation it should work.
Use the gray card for white balance. The RGBCMY row can be masked off and used with the Vectorscope to correct colors (though be warned, the saturations won't line up so don't worry about that).
How to delete the profile created in Adobe Lightroom with the plugin? I created one. But that photo which is used to create the profile is with some shadow on the ColorChecker Passport, so I think that will not be accurate. I want to delete and create a new one.
I found it. PC **You must set up your folder options to View Hidden Folders to be able to navigate to these paths. • Vista - [root drive, typically C:]\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
Go to www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/d/dng-profilemanager-software . Select PC or Mac, download and install. Then you can see all the profiles you have created, rename or delete.
When I choose export as preset and Colorchecker passport it does not ask me to name it. It just begins to create a profile. Then it prompts me to restart Lightroom. I do, and under camera calibration it simply says "profile". When I try to create a another profile it says "the following file already exists" so I can't create more than one profile. Help?
Ive spent all day trying to figure it out. customer service just directs you back to the unhelpful website. try to find help in a Vedic they just keep mentioning how easy to use the product is. outrage
Neil Snape I dont know what u mean by " controlled lighting " if u mean a setup of tools of soft boxes, flashes, and stuff then no I dont have that kind of "controlled lighting " I only have a Ring Light, and I try to photoshot as much as possible on day time so my source of lightening would be sun light. and by the way my lense is 50 mm. do u think its still useful for sun light as a source of light near the window ? cause I really cant afford an expensive setup. thank u so much
No modern monitor is limited to sRGB. Profile it (i1Display Pro or similar) and you'll be able to get the most out of it. You won't be able to see all of ProPhoto but will see beyond sRGB most likely. Adobe Lightroom is also using ProPhoto with a different gamma behind the scenes.
The ColorChecker Passport Photo offers you an unparalleled tool to attain full color control and customized creative enhancement from image capture to post-processing and is an essential component to attaining a 100% color-managed workflow. Each scientifically measured color patch is painted on and every pixel of the white balance card is 100% spectrally neutral. Shooting Raw provides greater flexibility to color-adjust images based on how a particular camera captures color. A calibrated Raw workflow minimizes color differences between cameras and lenses, adapts for mixed lighting, and makes it possible to color match across different scenes. ColorChecker Passport Photo makes the camera calibration experience fast and easy. You’ll have greater capability to edit color because you’re starting with a consistent foundation. Plus, you’ll be able to take advantage of your Raw processing software to automatically apply your profiles to a large number of images. The ColorChecker Passport Photo includes WHITE BALANCE TARGET. Starting with an accurate white balance ensures the colors you capture are true and provides a point of reference for post-shoot editing. The ColorChecker White Balance target is a spectrally flat target that provides a neutral reference point across different lighting conditions that you encounter during a photo shoot. Since the target reflects light equally across the visible spectrum, creating an in-camera custom white balance can properly compensate for varying lighting enabling the user to Eliminate color casts, Improve the color preview on your camera’s display so your histograms are more reliable and Make post production color editing faster and easier by eliminating the need to neutralize each image individually. CREATIVE ENHANCEMENT TARGET - The Enhancement Target provides a higher level of color creativity and control to your workflow. The Enhancement target includes four rows of color patches designed for image editing with just the click of an eyedropper. Whether it’s a studio shot, a colorful landscape or a multiple scene photo event, you can extend the power of your photo editing software in virtually any Raw processing software. CLASSIC TARGET - Photographing the industry standard ColorChecker Classic is an important step in attaining consistent, predictable color at capture. The ColorChecker Passport Photo includes a travel-sized version of the Classic 24 patch target. When combined with camera calibration software you can produce DNG profiles of your camera’s response to scene lighting to get consistent, predictable and repeatable results from image to image and camera to camera. Professional photographers rely on the ColorChecker to ensure color accuracy when editing their files and takes the guess work out of making sure their prints will match what they captured.
That's a great money-making, corporatized response right there. The reality is these days, on almost any camera available on the market, you can take a white balance in-camera, on location, under any light. You can even (on most cameras) edit the curve before or after taking a reading. Hauling a color checker is a bit superfluous. And honestly, 47 minutes to explain this is a little over the top.
Thank you. I'm confused about one thing. I read that even if you can't continually take a shot of the color checker it's better to use any profile created with a certain lens than none at all. So, I took a shot of the color checker at golden hour one night and then throughout my sunset photos I used my fold up grey card (which is easier for me since I need someone to hold my color checker) to keep getting the correct white balance. So my white balance looked great in my photos, but I then applied the color checker from that lens (taken at golden hour) and it automatically changed my white balance and it looked awful. I changed the white balance back to what I shot in camera but then the colors all looked really weird. What do I do in a case like this? If you could answer me I'd really appreciate it. I contacted customer service and was told to read the manual, but I can't find the answer and am spending a lot of time trying to find the answer in videos. Thank you!
To create a generic profile I would shoot with your camera and chosen lens at midday on a cloudless day and get the card totally illuminated by sunlight (but angle so no parts are glaring). Save that as your generic profile and note which lens it was. For sunset photos just set white balance to daylight.
rsmith02 thank you!! So, take that profile & apply the profile to my raw sunset photos & just set as daylight white balance? Will they still look warm? Hmm...
I live in Goshen, and just stumbled upon your video, because I just invested in the X-rite i1 color calibrator and it came with the ColorChecker. Great video, and would love to meet up sometime. Search me on Facebook or the web under the same name. I'm a professional photographer and filmmaker. Thanks for the informative video, Joe.
if your monitor does not produce the color space you are selecting then you are doing more harm than good...so if you want to work on adobe rgb for example, you need your monitor to fully support that.
Not really true. Lightroom has used ProPhoto's gamut since 2006 despite none of us having a monitor able to support that. Profile the monitor and it will work well enough.
Hello, very useful video. I was thinking of buying the Capture One for my Sony, do you know if you can use the colochecker in that software as well? Thanks
I'm using a PC, and when I do the File - Export With Preset, then select 'Color Checker Passport', Lightroom is not allowing me to name the profile. It simply creates the profile, with the generic name "Profile" in the 'Profile' section of the 'Camera Calibration' tab. Can anyone help me with how to name the profile?
fatfro1 it is working properly now, but what I had to do before it started working properly was to use the ColorChecker Passport software to make the profile, and then it worked fine.
Thanks for this video! I know how to use my colour checker passport correctly now....
Thank you for the detailed tutorial.
Any idea when/if X-Rite will recognize Affinity Photo
Thanks, Joe. I know I asked you how to do this years ago and there was not a simple answer. But the worst part is that I couldn't find a comprehensive tutorial on it anywhere, including on THEIR website. It was kind of flying with no wings. So, this is MUCH appreciated. Now, since my "new" computer is 2.5 years old, I don't have the software anymore and will have to find it.
I like that you say the name of the person in front of the camera. Instead of saying "the model" or "the assistant" =)
Great informative video btw
Excellent tutorial!
Thanks, Fred!
Hi,
I am wanting to use the new stand alone Capture one app that allows you to tether to an Ipad.
After saving my tethered captures how can I use my X Rite colour checker to ensure accurate colours.
A brief explanation would be most appreciated, thank you.
this helped me out a lot, great video keep it up
It's supported by Capture One now!!!
through a TIFF workaround... Capture One is being slow AF to support DNG. Rawterapee supports DNG and is free... Don't even get me started on the 10 year old thread trying to get Capture One to fix the bug in their keystoning tool. I gave up on Capture One. I wanted to like it but man they really dropped the ball.
I am always confused as to why anyone would click thumbs down on such a helpful video. Nice job for explaining these details.
Because using one of these for landscape images is just goofy.
When we use the white balance card does it need to fill the frame! I can't get zoomed in enough. Thanks!
34:45 In fact, if you hold ''Shift'' while clicking on the ''Open Image'' button, it changes to ''Open Object'' and it opens as a ''Smart Object''.
That way, you can always go back into Camera Raw and make changes to the settings (by right-clicking on the layer and choose Edit Contents).
I have problems with the red colors,using Xrite color checker passport always my red turns very red-magenta ???
How do I choose the correct white patch for my imge?
Hi! When you click the colour checker with the camera, is the White Balance of camera on AUTO mode?
Isn't the white balance target too small to fill the camera frame, making anything else seen beyond the edges
also the WB standard ?
Joe, thanks for the great video.
Can this be done also with the Color Checker Classic that comes with the X-Rite Display Profiling products??
Can i use the video passport color checker to do the same ?
Thank you for the video. If you want to use creative profiles in Lr, such as Adobe or Camera profiles, I guess the color checker would be of no use. Am I correct?
We pronounce Warwick “Worrick” here over the pond. Quite funny hearing you call your hometown “War-wick” 😆
Hi joe I don't see any color checker passport on my preset. Pls. Help me how to install plug ins. I just bought Adobe photoshop lightroom 6. Thank you and have a great shoot.
To create a profile in Adobe Camera Raw before I export as DNG does it matter if my profile is Adobe Standard or Adobe Color or Adobe Neutral etc?
That is a great video. Thanks. I have however experienced that the x-rite camera profile is crushing details in reds & oranges (saturated colours become over saturated). Have you ever experienced that? I had to redo an entire studio flower arrangements shoot using Adobe standard profile to retain the details in flower petals
yep! I see this on my canon 90D colorchecker profile, very noticable with skintones. From experiementing, I prefer the LrC 'adobe color' profile, using the 'warmest' colourchecker swatch. And for my studio work where I need to match colors including natural dyes, the key part is getting the white balance/exposure - which does seem more accurate with the white swatch (I always thought grey worked better!) and I can rely on the existing adobe color profile! LOL. soo, the color checker is an expensive white card to me!
How often should profiles be created?
SRGB to lab? Think you need to change labs. So you are working in ProPhoto & then stripping all color info by converting to SRGB for the lab? Why? Do you not have the CMYK profile of the lab so you can at least soft proof?
I have Lightroom 5 with the ColorChecker Passport installed. The problem I have is when I go to export with preset, put in my information and select ok I get the message, The profile could not be created. Any suggestions
if im using flash, when i take the image of the color checker, does the flash need to trigger?
Yes, if using flash in the final image, you should use flash in the color checker shot.
do you still need to calibrate the screen regularly?
YEs for SURE. All monitors drift over time.
Is this available for video?
How does the interface change with Lr 9.3? The videos here are old
Hi again, I worked out you use a raw file. but now that I have saved the file and restarted when I select the file I made the colour turned black so I turned the dile back to adobe standard . why dosnt it show the colour do you know?
Great video! I hate how adobe moves stuff around. I don't use LR much, and took me a while to figure out where you change profiles has changed. It's now at the top of the development panel in basic, not down near calibration. Not X-Rite's problem, only stating it here in case anyone else runs into this.
Many thanks for the video Joe. Do you find x-rite useful with product photography? Particularly silver/gold jewelry?
prima uitleg, met achtergrond informatie van het waarom [sorry i am Dutch] with little help of google translate: good explanations, background information on why
Dear Joe,
Can I also use this for my videos and drone?
Regards Newell
Hi Newell,
For video and drone use, we would recommend the ColorChecker Passport Video. It has targets which are specific for Video use.
You can see more information on the Passport Video here:
calibrite.com/product/colorchecker-passport-video/
Thank you
If you delete a profile after you have applied the color correction two images will those color corrections also disappear?
Why would they disappear? Do you mean in the JPEG or TIFF file, or in the RAW File?
They're not applied directly to the RAW, so yes they would disappear as they're applied in post processing.
They are already applied to the converted RAW file so, then you get the setting applied directly to the file.
hey there, very interesting video. Do i need an extra profile for ND shots or can i use the normal daylight / sunlight profile ??? thx.
Can and how could I use this color checker on luminar app by skylum?
I like the metaphor
Great video. Thank you.
You don't need profiles for everything. I can understand why the South West would be different from New York State (which I _would_ do) but for most things it's not necessary. Pretty much everything else can be fixed with white balance. That includes seasonal variations due to the angle of the sun. I would apply the profile first and then correct with white balance. I do this every day.
+TheThirdMan After creating a color profile and applying that profile to your images, do you need to keep that profile in LightRoom in order to keep the color corrections? After several shoots wouldn't your profiles start to build up in Lightroom and get a little confusing to organize?
Gil B You do but you only have to do it once or twice. This is my point. You don't need a profile for everything. You need one for daylight (summer) and daylight (winter) as well as one for tungsten and one for flash. If you travel overseas a profile would help too. That's about it. Everything else is easily corrected with white balance which doesn't have to be kept as a profile. Profiling just calibrates the camera. White balance sorts out the colorimetry of the light. You just take a shot of your white balance card or grey card and correct for all in ACR. If you have scenes shot in sunlight and in shade, you just take a white balance for each one of them.
Profiling is very useful but doesn't have to be done very often. Just correct your daily variations with white balance. By the way; don't spend big on a white balance card. Just get a cheap one. They work just as well. Paying $50 for a brand name is just crazy. Better yet, use the one on the colorchecker.
Question: do you or how do you save the custom camera profile settings to the Raw file?
Do you need a CD drive to use this?
What do you mean there's no standard for red? What about sRGB color standard?
Does not work with Lightroom CC 2015.10 Build 1111918 Camera Raw 9.10 :(((
Great video, BTW...
Hi I purchased a spyderpro5 calibrator and with it came a color checker passport. but never came with any software. the company said you have to download it from the website. so I did but when I have my picture of the color checker I go into export and then in the DNG Profile Name I entered a name and then select export and it comes up with a message 'unsupported image file format 1-2.jpg'. do you have any idea why that happens? appreciate your feed back.
Are you shooting jpegs? You need DNG raw files. Adobe has a DNG converter (free) to help you.
Thank you for this very nice video. I'm a real estate photographer in Connecticut.I frequently take images and rooms that are painted different colors and have different color temperature light bulbs throughout. Do I shoot the card the color card for each room?
I would shoot the gray card in each room. If you have mixed lighting, shoot it to make the part you want to be neutral more neutral. Then if you have an incandescent in a corner it will look orange but your whole shot won't be changed just to deal with one light.
Hi,
I clicked an image of the color checker & went to File>ColorCheckerPassport>Export & this is the error I get:
The Profile Could Not be created
An unknown error has occurred. If restarting the application does not fix this problem contact technical support. For further information please click on the Learn More button
I use a Mac with OS Catalina 10.15.4 and Lr classic 9.2.1
Can someone help me?
Best!
You must be using a raw image. Is it possible you're trying to create a profile from a processed image? a JPEG or TIFF?
I am taking photos to make an profile and when my camera meter is at 0, I am getting signs of clipping. This is happening in full sun and in full shade. Should I be underexposing the photos to make sure I'm not loosing information and shoot with the meter at 0?
Use the histogram on your camera. Not the meter. The white mountain graph on the histogram should not touch the right corner to avoid clipping.
So I am a wedding photographer that uses two cameras and have the ColorChecker. I am a little confused on how to use this is my work flow. At this point, it has mostly just sat in my bag. The issues is that I work in many different rooms that will have different lights, to match I may gel my lights to keep everything tungsten or whatever, I also use 4 to 6 lenses typically per wedding. Realistically, if I am shooting by the window where the bride is getting ready then move more into the room for Dad to come in, then move to a new location for portraits, followed by the groom getting ready .... I will have dozens of calibrations per wedding. Do I therefore need to create different color profiles for each shooting location with any lens that I am currently using? Do I have to save each profile permanently to the computer? From a workflow perspective this seems a bit of a nightmare.
You may propably colorcheck just 1-2 locations. Or have an assistant around, showing once in a while (every other room) the color checker and have a lot of calibrated combinations.
i dont think however its the perfect solution for any fast changing situation. (reportage, weddings, etc)
honestly? f this colorchecker whitebalance bullsh. do you like warm tones? go for warm tones. you like greenish tones? go for it. as Long as you dont produce Commercial work, you wont Need reproducable Colors
Shoot generic profiles under daylight with no reflections and a cloudless sky. Then use those for your wedding if you like the look. If you have time use the gray card to nail white balance. The dress is probably good enough, though, and if you are shooting raw you can adjust white balance later.
I need a tutorial about ONLY using it with JPG's.
My cam doesn't shoot RAW.
OK, Joe...I'm almost a believer, but help me understand how handle this situation and if the Passport system would help:
I take a lot of panoramas of sunsets. My guess is, I would need to take a shot of Passport before I attempt my first pano set. But if I hold the Passport up, it will be in the shadows if it's facing the sunset. So...do I take the picture of the Passport in the shadows, or turn my back to the sunset and take the Passport image that way, with it lit by the sunset? Or would it make a difference? I'm guessing it would, but I can't be sure. Secondly, sunsets change quickly, so how often (if at all, should I re-shoot the Passport for a reference image for the next series of panos? Clearly, the light changes dramatically as we go from the golden hour (or before it) to the blue hour (or beyond that). How would you handle this situation?
You would use a profile you created in midday sunlight. If you would create a profile during sunrise it would neutralize the golden light out you got up so early for :-)
The best option would be to make a dual illuminate profile that includes the coolest shadow and the warmest tone in the scene. Then you'll have to decide where to set your white balance. But the dual illuminate profile will take care of the issue of multiple light sources with regard to the profile.
You said the order of white balance and color profile doesn't matter but at 45:00 you're saying to have a perfect white balance before applying the color profile...so which is it!?????? I'm exhausted trying to figure this OUT!!!
In Lightroom/ACR, the order is irrelevant. It's hard to judge colors on something not white balanced, though.
Must you set your camera to a fixed white balance or is it OK to use auto white balance when shooting under similar lighting situations with the same profile?
Setting a custom white balance will always give you much better results compared to auto white balance.
For fixed scenes, custom white balance is best. For dynamic I'd shoot auto and take a picture of the card under any tricky lighting to use later as reference.
For some reason After loading the software I cant see anything in lightroom under file/export with preset/colorchecker passport. Colorchecker passport is not showing anywhere.. Any idea what Am I doing wrong?
I'm having the same exact problem. Maybe is a problem with the LR version we are using...
If shooting bracketed shots, do you need to add a profile for each exposure or can you merge all images and then add a profile? Thank you.
You should make the profile for the most properly exposed one
Could this be used for video too?
after using color checker passport for some time i collect a high number of profiles - some of them i want to get rid. how can i delete them without loosing the specific adjustments of my photos in the catalog using these delted color checker password profiles? thx for your help.
+Stephan Strauss Make sure your photos are taken in RAW
Look in your Camera profile folder on a PC. I can't for the life of me find it on a mac.
the software didn't work with high mega pixel camera such as Sony A7RII and Nikon 850.
tom nguyen yes it does! Says a d 850 owner......me!
ok, I get an error msg that ColorChecker cannot detect the crop marks....whatever that means. I cropped the image to totally fill the screen. Nothing. Msg says to use the desktop version of ColorChecker. I did that too. Same error msg.
are you sure you are using raw fine to a creat profile?
+Warren Zerr I had that problem. It was because I had photographed the passport in landscape. If you rotate your image so that it is in portrait orientation it should work.
Thank you. what fixed it for me... I had it upside down. when I shot CC upright, it worked like a charm. I will try portrait too.
Can you do a video about how you can use the ccp for video?
Use the gray card for white balance. The RGBCMY row can be masked off and used with the Vectorscope to correct colors (though be warned, the saturations won't line up so don't worry about that).
How to delete the profile created in Adobe Lightroom with the plugin? I created one. But that photo which is used to create the profile is with some shadow on the ColorChecker Passport, so I think that will not be accurate. I want to delete and create a new one.
I found it.
PC **You must set up your folder options to View Hidden Folders to be able to navigate to these paths.
• Vista - [root drive, typically
C:]\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
Go to www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/d/dng-profilemanager-software . Select PC or Mac, download and install. Then you can see all the profiles you have created, rename or delete.
DNG Profile Manager software.
When I choose export as preset and Colorchecker passport it does not ask me to name it. It just begins to create a profile. Then it prompts me to restart Lightroom. I do, and under camera calibration it simply says "profile". When I try to create a another profile it says "the following file already exists" so I can't create more than one profile. Help?
fatfro1 Facing the same problem. Did the workaround with the standalone version...
Go to www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/d/dng-profilemanager-software . Select PC or Mac, download and install, fixes problem.
Ive spent all day trying to figure it out. customer service just directs you back to the unhelpful website.
try to find help in a Vedic they just keep mentioning how easy to use the product is. outrage
Do is still need to do White Balance after applying Color Checker Passport profile?
Best to set custom white balance first then take a shot of the colorchecker for the color profile.
that will only create a colour corrected preview yet will not change ing profile creation
X-Rite Photo is it usefull for shooting makeup models?
If you have controlled lighting and want to minimise the color deviances of a make up color then yes very useful.
Neil Snape I dont know what u mean by " controlled lighting " if u mean a setup of tools of soft boxes, flashes, and stuff then no I dont have that kind of "controlled lighting " I only have a Ring Light, and I try to photoshot as much as possible on day time so my source of lightening would be sun light. and by the way my lense is 50 mm. do u think its still useful for sun light as a source of light near the window ? cause I really cant afford an expensive setup. thank u so much
37:53 What if my monitor only supports srgb ?
Do I even benefit from the Prophoto Color space?
No modern monitor is limited to sRGB. Profile it (i1Display Pro or similar) and you'll be able to get the most out of it. You won't be able to see all of ProPhoto but will see beyond sRGB most likely. Adobe Lightroom is also using ProPhoto with a different gamma behind the scenes.
@@rsmith02 thanks
Why is the X-Rite ColorChecker Passport so expensive?
The ColorChecker Passport Photo offers you an unparalleled tool to attain full color control and customized creative enhancement from image capture to post-processing and is an essential component to attaining a 100% color-managed workflow. Each scientifically measured color patch is painted on and every pixel of the white balance card is 100% spectrally neutral. Shooting Raw provides greater flexibility to color-adjust images based on how a particular camera captures color. A calibrated Raw workflow minimizes color differences between cameras and lenses, adapts for mixed lighting, and makes it possible to color match across different scenes. ColorChecker Passport Photo makes the camera calibration experience fast and easy. You’ll have greater capability to edit color because you’re starting with a consistent foundation. Plus, you’ll be able to take advantage of your Raw processing software to automatically apply your profiles to a large number of images. The ColorChecker Passport Photo includes WHITE BALANCE TARGET. Starting with an accurate white balance ensures the colors you capture are true and provides a point of reference for post-shoot editing. The ColorChecker White Balance target is a spectrally flat target that provides a neutral reference point across different lighting conditions that you encounter during a photo shoot. Since the target reflects light equally across the visible spectrum, creating an in-camera custom white balance can properly compensate for varying lighting enabling the user to Eliminate color casts, Improve the color preview on your camera’s display so your histograms are more reliable and Make post production color editing faster and easier by eliminating the need to neutralize each image individually. CREATIVE ENHANCEMENT TARGET - The Enhancement Target provides a higher level of color creativity and control to your workflow. The Enhancement target includes four rows of color patches designed for image editing with just the click of an eyedropper. Whether it’s a studio shot, a colorful landscape or a multiple scene photo event, you can extend the power of your photo editing software in virtually any Raw processing software. CLASSIC TARGET - Photographing the industry standard ColorChecker Classic is an important step in attaining consistent, predictable color at capture. The ColorChecker Passport Photo includes a travel-sized version of the Classic 24 patch target. When combined with camera calibration software you can produce DNG profiles of your camera’s response to scene lighting to get consistent, predictable and repeatable results from image to image and camera to camera. Professional photographers rely on the ColorChecker to ensure color accuracy when editing their files and takes the guess work out of making sure their prints will match what they captured.
That's a great money-making, corporatized response right there. The reality is these days, on almost any camera available on the market, you can take a white balance in-camera, on location, under any light. You can even (on most cameras) edit the curve before or after taking a reading. Hauling a color checker is a bit superfluous. And honestly, 47 minutes to explain this is a little over the top.
Thank you. I'm confused about one thing. I read that even if you can't continually take a shot of the color checker it's better to use any profile created with a certain lens than none at all. So, I took a shot of the color checker at golden hour one night and then throughout my sunset photos I used my fold up grey card (which is easier for me since I need someone to hold my color checker) to keep getting the correct white balance. So my white balance looked great in my photos, but I then applied the color checker from that lens (taken at golden hour) and it automatically changed my white balance and it looked awful. I changed the white balance back to what I shot in camera but then the colors all looked really weird. What do I do in a case like this? If you could answer me I'd really appreciate it. I contacted customer service and was told to read the manual, but I can't find the answer and am spending a lot of time trying to find the answer in videos. Thank you!
To create a generic profile I would shoot with your camera and chosen lens at midday on a cloudless day and get the card totally illuminated by sunlight (but angle so no parts are glaring). Save that as your generic profile and note which lens it was.
For sunset photos just set white balance to daylight.
rsmith02 thank you!! So, take that profile & apply the profile to my raw sunset photos & just set as daylight white balance? Will they still look warm? Hmm...
@@melissahall7009 Yes, exactly. The light will look as it was relative to daylight (in this case, warm)
@@rsmith02 cool, i'll try it. thank you!
@@melissahall7009 how did that work out?
I live in Goshen, and just stumbled upon your video, because I just invested in the X-rite i1 color calibrator and it came with the ColorChecker. Great video, and would love to meet up sometime. Search me on Facebook or the web under the same name. I'm a professional photographer and filmmaker. Thanks for the informative video, Joe.
if your monitor does not produce the color space you are selecting then you are doing more harm than good...so if you want to work on adobe rgb for example, you need your monitor to fully support that.
Not really true. Lightroom has used ProPhoto's gamut since 2006 despite none of us having a monitor able to support that. Profile the monitor and it will work well enough.
Hello, very useful video. I was thinking of buying the Capture One for my Sony, do you know if you can use the colochecker in that software as well? Thanks
It's a very different ICC-based workflow I read.
Why do you call poor Megan crazy-- she's FUN!
I'm using a PC, and when I do the File - Export With Preset, then select 'Color Checker Passport', Lightroom is not allowing me to name the profile. It simply creates the profile, with the generic name "Profile" in the 'Profile' section of the 'Camera Calibration' tab. Can anyone help me with how to name the profile?
I'm getting the same thing. Have you figured it out?
fatfro1 it is working properly now, but what I had to do before it started working properly was to use the ColorChecker Passport software to make the profile, and then it worked fine.
So it is working for you in Lightroom now?
fatfro1 it is now, yes.
Thank you I appreciate it.
Using this for landscapes is just goofy.
48 minutes to teach how to use that? tsk
I guess if you were colour blind it would give confidence in presenting your images
Dude. Drink something and stop clearing your throat.