As a white gay male who was raised Roman Catholic, I too have seen the negative, corrosive influence of religion and I gradually broke away from it over the past two decades and I am now an atheist. More black men need to set themselves free by doing like I did it so as not to raise eyebrows in their neighborhoods and communities.
@@5drtfygunjm While that is true I don't have a problem with religion or spiritual beliefs provided they do not use them to take advantage of others or discriminate against them.
Atheist Polynesians in NZ or Polynesia are equally few and far between. It's weird how the strongest adherents to the religion are those that were fairly recently predatorially converted by white missionaries. You'd think they'd have more interest in their historical culture than the white man's shitty religion.
@Purple Queen Are you really sure that you are a free thinker? Don't you feel that atheism and atheistic ideas are kind of subtlety pushed on everyone in our society? Why did you become or decide to call yourself an atheist? What kind of atheist are you exactly? What really sells you on that? Do you believe your life, body, family and the ground you walk on are all a gift or something else? If you believe they are all something else then what do you think they all are then? If you found out tomorrow that the God of the Bible is in FACT REAL how do you think you would change your life or what do you think you should do differently in this situation?
@@evolutionisbull5h1t Interesting line of questions! _Are you really sure that you are a free thinker?_ Yes. As free as one can be on this issue. _Don't you feel that atheism and atheistic ideas are kind of subtlety pushed on everyone in our society?_ No. We both know theistic views are the norm, and are the one subtly pushed as "obvious" position to take. _Why did you become or decide to call yourself an atheist?_ It started with noticing the hypocrisy inherit, within the church. Then moved on to noticing the lack of evidence of a divine creator...and the arrogance of calling other past religions "mythology". Then moved on to noticing the parallels between religion and cults...and knowing the prime motive of cults. The nail in the coffin came from the realization that religion isn't falsifiable...it's afactual. Anything that is afactual, is unreasonable, by nature. _What kind of atheist are you exactly?_ The normal kind? How many are there? _What really sells you on that?_ The lack of evidence to the contrary. _Do you believe your life, body, family and the ground you walk on are all a gift or something else?_ Depends on what you mean by “gift”. If you mean it’s special, then Yes...life is wonderful, I love my family, and we’re all fortunate to experience all this. If you mean “gift” as in “given to you by someone else...specifically a divine entity.”, then no...there’s no evidence of that. _If you found out tomorrow that the God of the Bible is in FACT REAL how do you think you would change your life or what do you think you should do differently in this situation?_ First I’d make sure the God we’re looking at, is the god of the bible. There’s around 3,000 known religions, today, and around 4,000 known gods. I’d figure out which god we were looking at, test that god on their merit, and if they pass, I’d no doubt start following that religion...which ever it was. That’s what a reasonable person would do. These are some good questions. I’d like to see your answers for them. Pretend the questions are from atheist. Ie: Are you sure you’re a free thinker? Don’t you feel *theism* and *theistic* views are subtly pushed on everyone in society?
I'm a white atheist and I agree 100% with you. Every single black person I knew at school was Christian and went to church. A lot of the white people weren't religious or identified as an atheist. I do think we need as many atheists as possible.
@@evolutionisbull5h1t I'm gonna answer the last question because I agree with that the other person said for the most part but majorly disagree with the last answer to the question. If I found out 100% that every single thing in the bible was true and that the Christian god existed with undeniable proof that could be proven and peer reviewed, I wouldn't change anything other than admitting that that god exists. I would still say that god is a worthless genocidal homophobic pro slavery freak that is undeserving of worship. If that means I go to hell then so be it. I would rather be consistent and honest with myself and my beliefs than worship a god that is okay with slavery, wiping out every human on earth because he is pissed off, being okay with stoning people, and being okay with sending people to eternal torture for finite "crimes".
Gurfmanj it’s actually lineman are at more risk for cte than any other position. Also it’s no guarantee, I’d say most post nfl players don’t have cte at least sever cte. Obviously there’s a risk to it but I think it’s being blown a tiny bit out of proportion
Awesome interview... I'm always sad that my mom isn't alive, to see people finally able to openly question the inconsistencies of religions, without being demonized for it... I remember both my grandmothers sneaking us to church for the full effect of the indoctrination... I didn't break loose until I was 50.
Wow! You became an atheist at 50? Kudos to you. Most people are incapable of making that intellectual leap so late in life. 🤗 I was 14 when religion stopped making sense. There were no answers there, only more questions.
I can relate to Arian as I grew up in Atlanta and I was a Methodist but I lost my faith while I was in college. I played football at the University of Alabama , and as Arian said , Christianity is a big part of many of the players' lives. It's tough to come out as an Atheist or nonbeliever as you are judged an outcast .
Arian Foster is great! I liked him as a player, but never knew how fucking smart he was. If y’all haven’t seen him already on the Joe Rogan podcast go check it out!
Yes, thank you Arian Foster for saying what you said about players at the end of games thanking god. I’ve always asked why they say that for? For example, I see that at the end of Super Bowls the mvps and or other players will thank god. I’m like so god wanted you guys to win and not the other team? Why can’t the players give themselves credit for their abilities instead of giving credit to god? God didn’t put the work in for them to be at where they are successfully. God has nothing to do with a damn thing. God did not create humans, humans created god
When we win, god made them lose and made us win. But when we lose, god pulls his greatest trick, convincing our team that he never existed... and poof, he's gone, like Keyser Soze.
Pat: David, today you'll be talking to Arian Foster. He's a famous football player. David: Great. As you know, Pat, foosball is very popular in Argentina, and my family considered me quite good at it.
Foster is/was my favorite player. Loved his running style sure, but I really liked how intellectual he was off the field. I still remember when he was asked if he was a democrat or republican and he replied something like "I dont join gangs". Great stuff
I just subbed to AF and his channel Now What. Being an atheist from TN or the south in general isn't easy. I also played football my whole life and even in college, everything he said was true about the relationship between football and Christianity.
@@Joker26Dabeast Yeah I thought you were talking about making America great again via policy like we saw with FDR instead of with a campaign slogan, my bad.
First, great interview; but, the Superbowl doesn't have the most viewership in the world (~110m). In fact, the FIFA World Cup's total viewership was in the Billions....thats with a 'B', b.
I immediately liked that guy (though as a European I don't have any contact with the American Rugby variant ;) ): Calling out the "advertisement" nation that the US is, being very clear and level-minded about that religious nonsense aaaand being a synth player ...
The hierarchy Mr. Foster is talking about is not even about being a "good producer." It's about stress hormone balances and pheromones. It's a natural trophic pyramid, an ape dominance hierarchy that has nothing to do with competence, cognitive capacity, imagination or intelligence. And it is what almost everything we've done is built on. Natural slop. The *artificial* things we've done are the result of: imagination, intelligence, cognitive capacity, empathy, etc. We engineer solutions to our problems with these tools. Not with natural dominance hierarchies. The natural way will give us nothing more than the same old mistakes, over and over again, ad nauseum, until extinction.
Historicity...love it. Didn't google it. I like it regardless of accuracy, so I dont want to spoil anything by knowing one way or the other. I like liking it regardless.
Will check out his channal but Get this guy back! His journey is powerful! And maybe you, David could be a guest on his show! And discuss your views on religion.
Payton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Dan Marino, Steve Young, Joe Montana, etc. Tom Brady is not physically in stature, arm talent, knowledge etc better than any of those qb's. While im not downplaying that he is in fact Elite, but if you put any of those qb's in his place with Belicheck the success would have been the same. Tom Brady on Marino's Dolphins doesnt win any superbowls.
We all prayed before games but not practices, most of which was fake. I live in a very religious area though. I am also old enough that when I was a kid we also had prayer in 2nd grade. It ended after that grade though.
Funny thing about Jehovah's witnesses. I, as an igtheist, would have those 1-2 hour conversations with them. They came 3 times. That 3rd time, I explicitly stated that I am an atheist. Odd, they haven't been back since. Got a free version of their bible out of it, though.
Good to hear him acknowledge agnosticism is illogical.. however so is atheism! Praying for Arian to believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth as his personal Lord and Savior. Jesus said “whoever believes in me HAS eternal life.” John 6:47 God loves you, Arian
Why ask his opinion on whether the Patriots are "special"? Fivethirtyeight has already done the work for you with math. fivethirtyeight.com/features/theres-really-never-been-an-nfl-dynasty-like-the-patriots/
People can believe whatever they want to believe in but it suck brothers go that route however, i don't believe that he really studied look through the religion particular the Bible i feel like he rational on not believing based off some actions of churches or what we can churchanity. Pray brother see things differently later in life.
Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive. Most atheists are agnostic atheists. I haven't come across any atheist who says that he or she "knows" there is no God. Similarly, many theists are agnostic theists and don't claim that they "know" there is a God. They just believe it to be true.
god is the opposite of religion. religion has confused everything. look at all the great religious leaders of our country and the world. calling yourself atheist does not lessen your obligation and opportunity to be a giving empathetic person. i remain a believer and i pray but it does not make me religious. i wholly accept anyone's atheism but am not immune to the unrepentant terrible actions of any individual, believer or non-believer. there's some pretty horrible religious people in the world. there are some pretty horrible atheists with a lot of intellect and success - and a lot of hate in their hearts.
Black atheists, especially in America are few and far between. Good to hear from a rational and reasoned brother.
As a white gay male who was raised Roman Catholic, I too have seen the negative, corrosive influence of religion and I gradually broke away from it over the past two decades and I am now an atheist. More black men need to set themselves free by doing like I did it so as not to raise eyebrows in their neighborhoods and communities.
@@5drtfygunjm While that is true I don't have a problem with religion or spiritual beliefs provided they do not use them to take advantage of others or discriminate against them.
Atheist Polynesians in NZ or Polynesia are equally few and far between. It's weird how the strongest adherents to the religion are those that were fairly recently predatorially converted by white missionaries. You'd think they'd have more interest in their historical culture than the white man's shitty religion.
Wassup another black atheist here lol
@@SimerDown yo
I'm a black atheist and it's great to see another black atheist. We need more black free thinkers.
@Purple Queen
Are you really sure that you are a free thinker? Don't you feel that atheism and atheistic ideas are kind of subtlety pushed on everyone in our society? Why did you become or decide to call yourself an atheist? What kind of atheist are you exactly? What really sells you on that?
Do you believe your life, body, family and the ground you walk on are all a gift or something else? If you believe they are all something else then what do you think they all are then?
If you found out tomorrow that the God of the Bible is in FACT REAL how do you think you would change your life or what do you think you should do differently in this situation?
Black atheist over here too! Love it!
@@evolutionisbull5h1t Interesting line of questions!
_Are you really sure that you are a free thinker?_
Yes. As free as one can be on this issue.
_Don't you feel that atheism and atheistic ideas are kind of subtlety pushed on everyone in our society?_
No. We both know theistic views are the norm, and are the one subtly pushed as "obvious" position to take.
_Why did you become or decide to call yourself an atheist?_
It started with noticing the hypocrisy inherit, within the church. Then moved on to noticing the lack of evidence of a divine creator...and the arrogance of calling other past religions "mythology". Then moved on to noticing the parallels between religion and cults...and knowing the prime motive of cults. The nail in the coffin came from the realization that religion isn't falsifiable...it's afactual. Anything that is afactual, is unreasonable, by nature.
_What kind of atheist are you exactly?_
The normal kind? How many are there?
_What really sells you on that?_
The lack of evidence to the contrary.
_Do you believe your life, body, family and the ground you walk on are all a gift or something else?_
Depends on what you mean by “gift”. If you mean it’s special, then Yes...life is wonderful, I love my family, and we’re all fortunate to experience all this. If you mean “gift” as in “given to you by someone else...specifically a divine entity.”, then no...there’s no evidence of that.
_If you found out tomorrow that the God of the Bible is in FACT REAL how do you think you would change your life or what do you think you should do differently in this situation?_
First I’d make sure the God we’re looking at, is the god of the bible. There’s around 3,000 known religions, today, and around 4,000 known gods. I’d figure out which god we were looking at, test that god on their merit, and if they pass, I’d no doubt start following that religion...which ever it was. That’s what a reasonable person would do.
These are some good questions. I’d like to see your answers for them. Pretend the questions are from atheist. Ie: Are you sure you’re a free thinker? Don’t you feel *theism* and *theistic* views are subtly pushed on everyone in society?
I'm a white atheist and I agree 100% with you. Every single black person I knew at school was Christian and went to church. A lot of the white people weren't religious or identified as an atheist. I do think we need as many atheists as possible.
@@evolutionisbull5h1t I'm gonna answer the last question because I agree with that the other person said for the most part but majorly disagree with the last answer to the question.
If I found out 100% that every single thing in the bible was true and that the Christian god existed with undeniable proof that could be proven and peer reviewed, I wouldn't change anything other than admitting that that god exists. I would still say that god is a worthless genocidal homophobic pro slavery freak that is undeserving of worship. If that means I go to hell then so be it. I would rather be consistent and honest with myself and my beliefs than worship a god that is okay with slavery, wiping out every human on earth because he is pissed off, being okay with stoning people, and being okay with sending people to eternal torture for finite "crimes".
I like Arian Foster's candid and honesty with answering David's question. His arguments are also well thought out.
All the while assuredly suffering from CTE. The degree might not be as much but a running back in the NFL will have some.
Gurfmanj it’s actually lineman are at more risk for cte than any other position. Also it’s no guarantee, I’d say most post nfl players don’t have cte at least sever cte. Obviously there’s a risk to it but I think it’s being blown a tiny bit out of proportion
He’s a Virgo lol
Someone please pass Foster a glass of water.
if he coughs one more time i'm gonna see phlegm
14:00 he starts talking about Religion and Christianity
From a fellow black atheist, respect.
What a great interview. Well spoken and a perspective I hadn't thought of.
Kudos to Arian Foster for taking a sound atheistic position rather than accept the flimsy metaphysical supposition within monotheistic religions.
fantastic interview
A very smart man! USA have to still a free religious country!
Awesome interview... I'm always sad that my mom isn't alive, to see people finally able to openly question the inconsistencies of religions, without being demonized for it... I remember both my grandmothers sneaking us to church for the full effect of the indoctrination... I didn't break loose until I was 50.
Wow! You became an atheist at 50? Kudos to you. Most people are incapable of making that intellectual leap so late in life. 🤗
I was 14 when religion stopped making sense. There were no answers there, only more questions.
I can relate to Arian as I grew up in Atlanta and I was a Methodist but I lost my faith while I was in college. I played football at the University of Alabama , and as Arian said , Christianity is a big part of many of the players' lives. It's tough to come out as an Atheist or nonbeliever as you are judged an outcast .
Kudos for being honest in a situation where most would just follow along :)
What a smart and level-headed guy Arian is. Love this interview
Love this interview!
David great hearing u talk football only 1 minute in already fasinated big NFL fan here
Great interview man:)
Arian Foster is great! I liked him as a player, but never knew how fucking smart he was. If y’all haven’t seen him already on the Joe Rogan podcast go check it out!
Yes, thank you Arian Foster for saying what you said about players at the end of games thanking god. I’ve always asked why they say that for? For example, I see that at the end of Super Bowls the mvps and or other players will thank god. I’m like so god wanted you guys to win and not the other team? Why can’t the players give themselves credit for their abilities instead of giving credit to god? God didn’t put the work in for them to be at where they are successfully. God has nothing to do with a damn thing. God did not create humans, humans created god
When we win, god made them lose and made us win.
But when we lose, god pulls his greatest trick, convincing our team that he never existed... and poof, he's gone, like Keyser Soze.
Pat: David, today you'll be talking to Arian Foster. He's a famous football player.
David: Great. As you know, Pat, foosball is very popular in Argentina, and my family considered me quite good at it.
Winning is easily our tradition, David. We all know this. I’m from New Hampshire, okay, we see our squad win all the time!
It’s ALL religions!
Atheism is unstoppable!
Religion is an archaic, toxic cancer to modern society.
@@robertpreskop4425 yeah religion is garbage, but so is AIU
Had no idea he was doing this kind of thing. What a world where David pakman and Arian Foster talk politics and sports.
Arian is now my favorite football player.
World Cup and Champions League have more viewers than the Super Bowl. Worldwide.
Foster is/was my favorite player. Loved his running style sure, but I really liked how intellectual he was off the field. I still remember when he was asked if he was a democrat or republican and he replied something like "I dont join gangs". Great stuff
Arian is a cool dude, been enjoying his podcast quite a bit! ✌🏼❤️♾
"If you all goin on a swimming trip or something like that, im there." 😂😂😂
I just subbed to AF and his channel Now What. Being an atheist from TN or the south in general isn't easy. I also played football my whole life and even in college, everything he said was true about the relationship between football and Christianity.
Was never into football, but this guy seems super down to earth and really cool.
Ayyy ABQ represent. This was a great interview!
love this guy. helped me win my first ever fantasy championship
Last time I was this early America was actually good
Yup MAGA
@@Joker26Dabeast Glad to see people supporting Sanders and his ideas to actually make America great agian. We need a new FDR not some child.
@@Foozie3moons you got that from "MAGA"?
@@Foozie3moons what I meant by MAGA was we need to reduce the reach of the federal government greatly and put more power back into the states.
@@Joker26Dabeast Yeah I thought you were talking about making America great again via policy like we saw with FDR instead of with a campaign slogan, my bad.
First, great interview; but, the Superbowl doesn't have the most viewership in the world (~110m). In fact, the FIFA World Cup's total viewership was in the Billions....thats with a 'B', b.
Good interview
I immediately liked that guy (though as a European I don't have any contact with the American Rugby variant ;) ): Calling out the "advertisement" nation that the US is, being very clear and level-minded about that religious nonsense aaaand being a synth player ...
If Brady knelt people would take the cause seriously. Kaepernick kneels and people ignore the cause
The hierarchy Mr. Foster is talking about is not even about being a "good producer."
It's about stress hormone balances and pheromones. It's a natural trophic pyramid, an ape dominance hierarchy that has nothing to do with competence, cognitive capacity, imagination or intelligence. And it is what almost everything we've done is built on.
Natural slop.
The *artificial* things we've done are the result of: imagination, intelligence, cognitive capacity, empathy, etc. We engineer solutions to our problems with these tools. Not with natural dominance hierarchies. The natural way will give us nothing more than the same old mistakes, over and over again, ad nauseum, until extinction.
Historicity...love it. Didn't google it. I like it regardless of accuracy, so I dont want to spoil anything by knowing one way or the other. I like liking it regardless.
Like Foster even more after seeing this... liked him as a player, now respect him more for his views
Saw him on pka, great time.
Oh shit I had no idea Arian Foster had a UA-cam channel, insta sub
Cool dude...Respect
Just subbed to Arian's channel. 👍
Good for Arian Foster. He realized religion tells you what to think, and Atheism shows you how to think.
David, you should try to get John Urschel on the line for an interview.
Correction: the world Cup is the most watched event in the world.
Good interview but I wish you would've touched on the concussion and CTE issues with the NFL
That's a whole other 20 minute video. And one I look forward to, if ever given the chance to watch.
You should check out Joe Rogan's interview with Arian Foster on UA-cam...I recall him talking about CTE in depth.
World cup soccer most watched sporting event. Not even close
Will check out his channal but Get this guy back! His journey is powerful! And maybe you, David could be a guest on his show! And discuss your views on religion.
Oops you were on! Gonna check it outd
Payton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Dan Marino, Steve Young, Joe Montana, etc. Tom Brady is not physically in stature, arm talent, knowledge etc better than any of those qb's. While im not downplaying that he is in fact Elite, but if you put any of those qb's in his place with Belicheck the success would have been the same. Tom Brady on Marino's Dolphins doesnt win any superbowls.
Great interview, but someone get this man a water
I should listen to Arians podcast because there aren’t many people that are friends with David Pakman and Desus & Mero.
We all prayed before games but not practices, most of which was fake. I live in a very religious area though. I am also old enough that when I was a kid we also had prayer in 2nd grade. It ended after that grade though.
No players will kneel before the Super Bowl
Think David forgot to link it. Here's Arian channel: ua-cam.com/channels/AB03M7mYqGLyxPHbmE0wYw.html
Arian Foster is an impressive human being, and I believe he is Vegan, Pat!
Funny thing about Jehovah's witnesses. I, as an igtheist, would have those 1-2 hour conversations with them. They came 3 times. That 3rd time, I explicitly stated that I am an atheist. Odd, they haven't been back since. Got a free version of their bible out of it, though.
He a cool dude!
Good to hear him acknowledge agnosticism is illogical.. however so is atheism!
Praying for Arian to believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth as his personal Lord and Savior.
Jesus said “whoever believes in me HAS eternal life.” John 6:47
God loves you, Arian
Yessir
This is interesting
Why ask his opinion on whether the Patriots are "special"? Fivethirtyeight has already done the work for you with math. fivethirtyeight.com/features/theres-really-never-been-an-nfl-dynasty-like-the-patriots/
Most watched game? Real Football World Cup final says Hi! between 6 to ten times more. For the rest good interview.
Soccer is gay.
@@bobbymalone3983 so you can relate then.. Lol
Cool dude, but he's way wrong about belechick. The patriots don't have a consistently top ranked D and O line because of Tom Brady
People can believe whatever they want to believe in but it suck brothers go that route however, i don't believe that he really studied look through the religion particular the Bible i feel like he rational on not believing based off some actions of churches or what we can churchanity. Pray brother see things differently later in life.
F the Plantation Bowl and their ''Owners''
Not your best interview guest....
What's wrong?
That why his career fell off
Logic, out!
Agnostic>Atheist
Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.
Most atheists are agnostic atheists. I haven't come across any atheist who says that he or she "knows" there is no God. Similarly, many theists are agnostic theists and don't claim that they "know" there is a God. They just believe it to be true.
This 100%.
god is the opposite of religion. religion has confused everything. look at all the great religious leaders of our country and the world. calling yourself atheist does not lessen your obligation and opportunity to be a giving empathetic person. i remain a believer and i pray but it does not make me religious. i wholly accept anyone's atheism but am not immune to the unrepentant terrible actions of any individual, believer or non-believer. there's some pretty horrible religious people in the world. there are some pretty horrible atheists with a lot of intellect and success - and a lot of hate in their hearts.
@AATHEISTU you are obviously MUCH smarter than me. i appreciate you not being too horrible to me about it - i've certainly gotten far worse
@AATHEISTU appreciate the follow up - thinking is good! be well.
Arian who?
His name is in the title to this video, idiot.
Arian God king
Justin Moore ...he was good at The University of Tennessee.
@@bundeswehr7676 also led the nfl in rushing once or twice
Nation
First dislike let's go
LMAO "I guess You just prayed harder..?" I about sprayed my drink! LOL Love it