SHEEP FARMER RANTING AFTER DOG ATTACK | Vlog 21 - Lambing 2021
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A stressful day! In this vlog my ewes and lambs are subject of a dog attack which leaves one lamb badly injured and other split up from their mothers.
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I’m 31 years old and I’m a sheep farmer from Ayrshire in South West Scotland, which is why I have such a strong accent! I was born and raised on a sheep farm watching my dad who was the shepherd.
At 18 I went away from farming to work in the city (something I still do) and at 23 (2013) I decided I wanted to do something for some extra money so I went on a sheep shearing course. The hardest thing I’ll ever do was learning to shear sheep. [shudders thinking about it]
I shore whilst on my holidays from work for 2 years and then in 2015 my dad died so I decided to get my own sheep so I could continue working with sheep as it was something I loved doing. From there it escalated quickly from my first 4 sheep in my mum’s garden to now running around 600 breeding ewes.
I shore over 15,000 sheep this season in UK and I also travel to Norway for shearing in March and September. (Covid messed it up this year)
A few years ago I bought myself a sheep pregnancy scanner and have been building up my run since then.
I watched a few farm vlogs on UA-cam and decided I could have a go and now here we are!
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I feel your pain I lost 6 lamb's in a week an the owner of the dogs denied it is his dog's, so needless to say owner lost his dogs and the dogs got a new home away from sheep. It's good to be on good terms with animal control.
We are allowed to kill dogs attacking livestock. And I have done it. And my neighbors know that if my dogs are caught chasing livestock,kill them. If they will attack yours. They will go after mine
I only had a small flock, usually less than a dozen, but I also kept a couple of nanny goats and a big Billy goat who did not like dogs one tiny little bit. He saved me a lot of grief.
Well done. You have done something that might be effective. This man is still ranting on a bout the same issue3 years later and pushing the same failed messages. Although some dog owners go to great effort to effectively train their dogs to be safe around sheep he tars all dog owners with the same brush - not giving any respect to the responsible owners. This video about training livestock avoidance using an e-collar, was available ten years ago. Promoting this could only be good for reducing sheep worrying but he refuses to engage. Probably would not get as many subscribers and views as posting emotionally charged rants.
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@@saltyc3194So who is going to pay for the damages to his flock? That lamb with the broken leg is £140 - £160 potentially. If his leg doesn’t heal he’ll die. The man has good reason to rant. Responsible dog owners would have their dog on leash.
You're not ranting! You're dead right! When i was a kid myself and my dad were mushroom picking and we found a herd that had been savaged by a pair of dogs, it was awful to this day I have nightmares about it over forty years later!
Dogs are one of the number one threats to livestock across the states and I’m sure in other parts of the world. It’s horrible.
The disaster in Far from the Madding Crowd is one of the most shocking episodes in literature.
We had cattle and goats growing up, and our neighbors had dogs that were mixed with wolves. They had already been in trouble for attcking other dogs and were supposed to be kept in a pen made of high chain link. They were kept there during the day, but on multiple occasions, they let them out during the night. They came thru our farm, attacking baby goats and calves, usually killing them. Our guard dog would let us know something was up, and we would go out looking for the goats and calves. We'd catch glimpses of the dogs/wolves and let the authorities know. Not that anything was ever done about it until we straight up told the neighbors that if we caught them on the property again, it would be the last . After that, they kept the dogs in the pen. I guess they weren't worried about the authorities actually taking action, but they knew we were serious.
country code keep dogs on a leash around live stock. I remember when i was helping out on a farm many years ago farmer had his cattle worried by a irresonsable dog owner, he had a word with her, she took no notice, = her dog was shot on sight
So sorry for the stress on the sheep AND you from the loose dogs. Hope the little lamb heals!
Thanks Melanie!! I hope so too!!
Had it too woman on the phone didn’t even know her 2 dogs had run off till she heard the BANG she walks without them now.
Thank you for the reminder that my dog and your sheep don’t mix. As a suburban dweller, I would rarely have the opportunity to have my dog loose near any farmers field. However if the opportunity arises, I will be mindful that he should never be off leash.
Venting in the moment is essential for one’s long-term well-being, so good for you for letting off steam with us. I and I’m sure many other sheep fans have broad shoulders and listening ears - as far as I’m concerned, you can vent here any time you need to! 💕
Always stressful when dogs chase sheep. Hopefully the leg mends.1 suggestion Camy. When applying the final red tape, spiral it like a "barber pole" rather than encircling the leg. Spiraling allows for expansion and reduces the likelihood that the circulation to the leg is compromised. Good luck 👍
Very good point never join both ends, it can create a tourniquet effect. Good luck wee Lammy
You’re a lot more calm than I would be. I never let my dogs off the lead if there’s even a remote chance of livestock or nesting wildlife. I’ve seen the aftermath of a dog attack and it’s horrific.
I am old enough to remember when sheep owners advised through an ad in the papers, their sheep were being worried by dogs, and the shepherd had the power to shoot such dogs. Saw a film of a sheep worrying dog in Australia. It was very quickly cured, when put in a pen it couldn't escape from with a few tups. They gave the dog such a hammering it wouldn't go near another sheep!
In my area (Australia) it is understood that the dog involved in an attack on stock Never survives the incident. Either the owner takes immediate action , or the ranger is summoned to undertake disposal. Either way it is a loss all round - farmer loses stock and the dog owner loses their “friend” ( that they realise they never really knew).
We also have wild dogs to contend with, but that’s a whole different level.
I've got a lot of dogs, medium to large, and while I've done a lot of training with them and they grew up knowing my livestock and neighbors' livestock, they are predatory animals who love to chase animals. If they aren't with me on my land, they're on a leash because ya never know. But we still get charged (sometimes attacked) by loose dogs on walks and the owners always yell that it was a misunderstanding or that it's always been friendly. Well. I don't know your dog, and you don't know what dog your dog will run into, either. :/
I hate it when people use the defense that their dog is friendly and in their mind that justifies them running around unsupervised/off leash. Whoever/whatever the dog runs up to might NOT be friendly! They’re looking at their dog possibly getting hurt or killed if it goes up to the wrong person. Not to mention the possibility of their dog loosing its friendliness towards others in certain situations.
We're lucky in America to have an instant solution to that kinda thing. Although I do give my neighbors a very formalized three strike system.
1. Contact dog owner and notify police without letting the owner know
2. Let the owner know I've contacted the police
3. Lead, and notify the police that the problems been resolved.
Not a great way to make friends of neighbors but they've made the choice not to be friendly not me
I'm grateful not to live in the States any more.
For every "sensible" gun owner (who'd NEVER do anything wrong, honest!), there's a nutter who will, and who'll probably get away with it because he thought he was "in danger."
in the UK, farmers have every right to own guns of multiple types and calibres, but the laws are MUCH clearer here, and much more in favour of the victim, precisely because we really don't want to encourage the sort of Wild West mentality the US has.
Please don't apologise for being cross about it. Sheep are your livelihood so people should have more respect. Hope the lamb is improving. Keep up the great work, Cam
I have 2 large dogs and I never walk them off lead not just for peoples and or other animals safety but for my dogs safety as well. If my dog goes up to a stranger or a strange dog I don’t know what that person or dog could do to my dogs.
What I’ve done to let them have a bit of a farther lead, was to buy a 30 foot lead that is intended for livestock for the dogs. This way I still have control but they can explore a bit.
Maybe you can run a new fence along the hedge to lock out any sheep chasers. And a few notices ' Dogs Worrying Sheep Will Be Shot.' Makes me livid.
Agree
Everyone knows a dog worrying sheep can be shot legally.
@@conniesanchez2625 only if you are there, with a rifle, at the time!
As a retired police officer like yourself, and as a dog owner who lives in the country, I want to echo your words. Too many people turn away and don't do anything when they could. They won't even make a phone call because they 'don't want to get involved'. As for my two (small) dogs, I put them on the lead the minute I spot livestock in a field or close to the footpath. They're used to livestock being around, and they know to leave well alone, but I would never risk one of them having a mad moment. I would never forgive myself. I've 'advised' other owners to put their dogs on a lead when there is livestock around, and most of them take the hint. Those that don't get told in more forthright terms! So glad you didn't lose any of them. Keep up with the Game - you're winning!
If you spot livestock in a field that means your dogs could spot livestock as well. If you’re walking your dogs in areas where farming takes place then you should have your dogs on the lead at all times not just when you see livestock. You may come across a wayward sheep looking to lamb in a sheltered area and it would be too late to stop your dogs from reacting.
This is no consolation, but we have the same entitlement mentality of certain dog owners here in the States. If ALL dog owners would keep their dogs on a leash, we wouldn't have this problem.
Your absolutely right to be angry cammy. Those sheep are your livelihood.
I saw the title and I got so stressed for you! I grew up in the Rocky Mountains of the US on a dairy goat farm. Coyotes were not nearly as big a threat as loose or feral dogs! I'm so relieved for you that there wasn't more damage done.
Cammy, not all big dog owners are bad, I have a Great Dane and he is always on a lead if we are anywhere out in fields, I help at my mates sheep farm here in Gloucestershire and have seen the results of dog attacks, the people are the problem not always the dog, good luck with getting to 20k 👍🏻
Thanks Mitchell! No offence intended I was just ranting😅. The minority ruin it for the majority as always in life🥺
@@TheSheepGame you’ll never offend me mate, and it’s good to have a rant now and again, after that many days of lambing and tiredness how you stay so happy is a miracle, good lad keep the quality content up and that Barnet !!
He was saying big dogs were his worry, but as someone else has pointed out some breeds of small dogs can be a danger to sheep too. Here in New Zealand, more often than not, the issue comes from dogs who are let out at night to do their business and get the smell of new lambs or sheep and do their damage. Likely a dog comes home with bloody chops, they think it was lucky to catch a rabbit.
I remember a story from Herriot about an Alsatian getting in with a field of in lamb ewes. The farmer thought they had been slaughtered but it ended up they needed calcium. Fascinating story for someone like me who grew up with horses but no other farm animals.
It’s such a shame that people can’t be more respectful. I’ve had greyhounds, trust me, off the lead,,, impossible to catch. They’re sight hounds they see it they’re gone. They’ll run themselves to death. I’ve seen it happen. My daughter is having the same issue with her chickens. They stay in her yard but she just had another one mauled because the neighbors dog has run of the neighborhood. Third one I think, this time she’s calling animal control. But no one has a right to other people’s land use. It’s not your field or property, don’t allow your animal in it! No matter what kind of dog.
I wish more people would see this video and understand the damage that can happen by allowing their dogs to run off lead. Hope the little lamby heals well.👍😎
Have your daughter install a electric fence around your property. The netting is best but a couple of strands 6-8” above the ground and another around chest height of the problem dog will work. Get a good cattle rated energizer. Solid state if you can find it. Set it up and ground the shit out of it. Dog will hit those wires and guaranteed he won’t want anything to do with the place or the chickens. I have lost far too many good birds to the neighbors dogs. They all have a warning in place delivered by the sheriff’s department that I will exercise my rights to protect my livestock! They get past the fence than it’s fair game to shoot. Pepper balls ( paint gun) are a good non lethal warning shot. I don’t play when it comes to livestock and quite frankly neither do my mares who have no problem with dispatching unwanted dogs. Hell I have to watch my own carefully or they will go for him too.
Tell your daughter to not play nice! You see the dog out you take quick video/pic and call the dog in. If you catch the dog in the act of killing/maiming one of the birds she is allowed to request compensation for the loss/damages. It would surprise most to find out just how expensive a replacement hen is depending on breed and availability. Shipping isn’t cheap either and all expenses would have to be covered by the dog owner. I would rather be the Bitch with 32 live chickens than 32 dead ones!
My nephew had a small flock of which many were killed by a neighbour's dog a few years ago. He built a small fortress for them, but a fox or coyote dug under it and killed nearly the lot. Not much you can do about wild ones, though.
We were thinking of getting chickens and while I like the idea of them being free range I still would make the area safe for them .... Put up a fence! Not just neighbors dogs, but fox and mink can get them and it's really best to protect your animals as much as you can.
@@tammystoudt5137 A hawk picked up a chicken in my friend's yard! She yelled at it and startled it so that it dropped the hen, but that was a close call!
@@Patricia-zq5ug yikes! My cousin had a cocker spaniel down the road from her get carried off by an eagle. Scary! She has fences to keep the coyotes and wolves out, but not much you can do about predators from above! 😫
Sorry to hear about the sheep worrying. You aren't ranting, don't worry. At the end of the day it's your livelihood at stake. Hope the sheep are ok soon!
I am so sorry this has happened and completely understand your anger and frustration. It's so upsetting, I was dreading what you were going to find. Poor lamb probably got trampled in the rush to get away from the dog, Lizzy did a great job bandaging it up and I hope it makes a full recovery, keep us posted on how its doing please 😥
There is nothing more upsetting, frustrating and stressful than dog attacks on your sheep, and your so right about people not doing anything: they dont want to get involved! That is as bad as letting your dog off to attack the sheep! Keep an eye out over the next few nights incase those dogs return, they usually do🤬
Don't want to get involved yet Don't care if living creatures are killed or injured, phuck that.
Don’t you believe it, two small dogs can be just as bad. They hang onto the belly and harass the sheep until she dies from stress. Jack. Russels are killing machines, make no mistake.
They are the worst.
Yes they are aggressive and can cause a lot of damage. 12 bore is best! They just won’t stay still long enough for the .223
No, leads are best. Jacks are fantastic ratters. Mine are brilliant but there is no way I’d have the hooligans off the lead!
Yes! A terrier can be a fantastic working dog when appropriately trained and given the right outlet, they're great for killing rats as it's what they were bred for. But take the same hunting instincts and bottle them up inside a dog who isn't given the appropriate outlet with owners who don't understand and you have disaster.
@@packofspartans2934 leashes don't malfunction or run out of batteries. They are also legal everywhere. If you knew much you would know shock collars aren't even legal everywhere. Fact is that leashes are better, period.
Lost 9 lambs the first day I put my ewes out. Was black and white jack Russel. All my neighbours had trouble too.
It’s the worst thing because its out of your control. Thieving is getting bad too. We have to look out for each other.
Heart breaking.
It happened to me last year and theifing stole 70 blackface ewes
You are being unreasonable - unreasonably calm. How you can do that day after day and remain this calm is beyond me. My dogs are trained to actively avoid livestock and I still put them on the lead if I am in known proximity of sheep.
Dogs are never the same once they start chasing livestock. I don't put up with it and never will. Doesn't matter if its the calves or the sheep.
People these days think all dogs are "cute" little house hounds. My aunt used to say "she won't bite ye". Right! I have a suggestion for dealing with this problem but I'm a American.
Grate vid cammy. Our grazing committee have recently put signs on all the gates going into common grazing telling people to keep there dogs on a lead and to call the police if they see dogs worrying sheep. They where download from the national sheep association might be worth having a look at them.
Sadly it's the irresponsible and ignorant dog owners who cause the problems, and no signs would make them put their dogs on leads.
@@hectorskmetija3015 I agree they cause part of the problem however many members of the public have no idea what there dogs can do so these signs at least educated them and the majority of these folk do respects the signs potentially avoiding an incident. However some refuse to be thought
@@davidnicolson6443 Here in America we just tend to shoot the dogs. Sad thing when it happens, but when they're messing with your livelihood... :\
Our neighbour's jack russell dug under our fence & tore one of our pet chicken's apart, injured the second & terrified the third. Our 3 son's and us were heartbroken. Couldn't see wee animals hurt so got a travel cot, brought the injured one and her chum into the house until she was nursed back to strength. You need a rant. Perfectly acceptable. Love your vlogs...congrats on your upcoming arrival! Hugs to you both from Northern Ireland.
We had a great way of taking care of dogs that use to go after livestock here, I won't say how but you all know what I mean. Poor baby injured because of ignorant people, Liz you did a bang up job of wrapping practice for when the babe comes along.
A donkey is a great help.
Dogs can drive the donkey and the sheep gets a chance to break away. We were in a block and 3 flocks of sheep neighbouring each other and ours were the only group not damaged and we were the only group with a donkey. Sorry that you have to deal with that. Keep up the great work
I have a little dog and if she was off leash, she would for sure chase sheep. I live in town and have a small backyard she still manages to catch rabbits and birds. However she is never off leash on her walks . Your situation would upset me as well. I d be out in that field with a shotgun.
Am totally with you on dogs. Mine always comes back when she’s called but as she’s not been raised with other animals than dogs I wouldn’t risk her being loose around them. We have an extendable lead so she gets extra length and can do all the things dogs do but wouldn’t be able to cause any harm. Look forward to seeing updates on that little lamb x
Ooowww I have people walking everywhere through the hill parks.. Not even sticking to the paths 🙈 and I get so many lambs mismothered during the weekend.. 😱 Glad the weather is bad this weekend! Nobody around 😂👌 greeeeeaaat!
My grannies neighbors dogs kept killing her lambs and she warned them time and time again and they didn't give a crap. So one day she shot both of them with a 12 bore and took them to there door, don't think that ever talked again but they lurnt a lesson
I saw a movie where a big dog went nuts and drove a whole flock of sheep over a cliff. That image, from over 60 years ago, has never left my mind. I won’t go near that movie again.
Absolutely agree about dog license you should be able to show some knowledge before owning a dog, To many owners ignorant and think there dog just wants to play not that it's absolutely terrifying the sheep.
Ok, ya got me, I just subscribed! I watch my Canadian sheep farmer, Sandi Brock of Sheepishly Me and the Hoof GP but I love a Scottish Afro!🤣🤣🤣💕🇨🇦
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke.
That’s the proper one 😅! Cheers!
That applies throughout the world and all subjects. C’mon, people, when you see wrongdoing, grow some cajones.
Well said Cammy it's not the dog but the owners responsibility don't know how many times I've had this argument with owners who just don't care !! It does make livestock owners very frustrated !! And rightly so lambing is a stressful time without anything else to have to deal with, great vlogs these have been, hope the lamb heels up and that hair of yours is progressing nicely ha ha 😉😉
It's not hard to watch your dog's if you can't stop them chasing sheep and lambs then you should keep them on a lead , I hope everything is ok
a fellow here in our area lost 101 ewes that were heavy in lamb in the hot weather in June to a gang of neighborhood dogs. I can't imagine how he managed to build his flock back up. We are allowed to shoot them if we catch them in the act which includes if they are even in the same field because of worrying.
Hi from Australia xx I came across your site by accident ( so glad I did ) I love your accent x I used to live in Scotland had a smallholding near Turriff many moons ago ( I am Welsh ) my heart goes out to you about those damn unruly dogs xx when they take their dogs near where there are sheep PUT A MUZZLE ON THE DOG.
Hope the little lamb makes a good recovery 🐑
I absolutely LOVE your personality. I came over from Sandi's channel and I HOOKED on your and her channel.
BTW Thank you for brushing the dirt off the face after you threw us in the floor ..HAHAHAA Kidding.
Thank you for sharing and the education.
Your friend and new sub from NC, USA
Love the way you stand up for your sheep babies.. People should know better. That is a HUGE problem in America even w leash laws. Good to see you taking a stand!!
I don’t know if you have them there but you could set up a game camera in that area, they snap a pic if anything moves! You would aim it away from the sheep, towards where you think the predators are coming from! I would be outraged too, I am anxious around dogs in general but, so many dog owners don’t care what a nuisance they can be to others. You deserve a rant!
I always kept my dog on a leash, it just seems so much safer for everyone.
Thank you.
Exactly!
Cam, you have every right to vent so don't apologise (you can "baa" out the bad words in editing), your viewers understand and we support you in your endeavour to make sheep raising viable. I've watched the video and read all the comments -- I'm angry and disgusted as well and I'm aware it could have been so much worse. I agree that monitoring cameras might help BUT $$. how about a large sign (the size of a door)at both ends of the path stating 'dog owners will be held financially responsible for damages/death of lambs/ewes from off leash pets' and if you have a lamb's carcass to pin to each sign -- I'm sure THAT will drive the message home. Darling Lizzie is a godsend and worth her weight in gold! keep lil lambie-kins safe and here's hoping for a safe weekend (ps: I'll make a comment on the hair rake next time)
Hope the wee lamb gets better soon🙏 people need to be more aware of the damage their dogs can do luckily we never had an attack yet thank god
We had a jack russell mate, I wouldn’t have trusted him anywhere near a sheep,
Great that you knew your dog Chris and were aware of the dangers around sheep 👍
Canada here. So sorry about the sheep chase. Glad no Ewes went down from the chase. Son and wife live on her parents dairy farm up north where they have Coyote, Wolves and Bears on the farm. They were quite surprised one day to look out the window to see that their favourite cow was chasing a coyote out of the fields. Turned the tables on them.
There was a case of a bear trying to get a calf out of a herd of cows in the PNW. Two Momma cows persuaded that bear to should run for its life, those two worked it over real good.
I agree 100 percent! I have 2 big dogs but I never let mine run loose ANYWHERE!!! The dumbest sentence on earth starts with “ my dog won’t” because yes your dog will !
Thank you! I’ve read two comments from people saying pretty much that very thing. One said she puts the lead on when she sees livestock, and the other said her two terriers have been raised around sheep so she only uses a lead during lambing. The stupidity is astounding.
Not ranting...venting rage yes and that's allowed...I do hope that the wee lamb's leg heals well.
Did you see the Scottish farmer, guy over at Dunblane lost over 40 lmbs with the weather last weekend, obviously been very cold weather up country. That one hell of a thing to face in the morning.
I'm with you on this subject, but people know in my area they'll only be one ending if i spot a dog in with the sheep.
@@23766612 i know, many people don't realise the time we put in to raise and make sure the sheep are healthy and well fed, and of course the financial side.
I think cammy mentioned it, it's down to pure ignorance.
Hi Cammy, love your videos and totally understand your fury regarding dogs chasing your sheep. I am a fellow sheep fan from N Ireland and have experienced the same problem. Keep the videos coming. 🐑
Thanks Poppy
I used to have a sheltie who loved all animals, he was born on a small holding that had sheep and horses. He adored sheep and horses, I also made a point of having him socialised with animals. I still kept him on a lead around sheep etc. Although I knew he wouldn't chase them, if anything he would try to heard them .
I can't stand it when dog owners are so irresponsible.
Good points there, a lot of these dogs from the town have never seen sheep and mostly just think its a game with chasing them.
I'm so sorry Cammie, irrespinsible dog owners are a problem....and often those same dogs are left off at shelters when they start getting into trouble. A well trained dog is a much happier dog.
How frustrating! Especially combined with your other perennial problem of farming rented ground, you can't even invest in better fencing or other mitigations. Glad the damage was minimal, at least. Hope that lamb heals up quickly.
That’s it! Can’t justify the big expense on rented ground. It would be near a km of fencing also! There are signs up but nobody heeds them.
Loved the video and can see the passion in you when talking about sheep worrying.
Completely get that as I've been trough it myself and lost sheep and it still tears at my heart.
However I strongly disagree about your statement that big dogs are the problem or more off a problem, small dogs can do so much damage, have you seen a small terrier like dog after a sheep, the speed the ability to change direction the sheep stand no chance, and the nature off how small dogs bite, generally they bite over and over again, even if the sheep survives the attack they offence surcum to infection all these bites introduce.
It shouldn't be a big dog small dog debate.
Keep all dogs big or small around live stock as the instinct is as strong in small as it is in big.
I've had so many folk saying he's only little what harm can he do?
Answer is lots.
"He's only little, what harm can he do?" is the mentality that 'allows' people to neglect their responsibility to socialise and discipline small dogs. In my experience, small dogs are far more likely to be aggressive than big dogs, because owners of big dogs usually understand the damage their dog could do if not brought up right.
Never underestimate the power of a large audience I hope everybody's is ok people will start talking about the attack on your sheep and maybe people will start watching your sheep out of curiosity who knows? If I lived there I would.
My son was 10 years when he got his first pair (Dorset/Panama) of 4H lambs here in the US. Someone's two, 150#, pet dogs jumped the fence. Killed 1 and the other barely alive hiding. He slept in a tent and sent our German shepherd dog after them the next 3 nights. He raised the remaining lamb gently through all infections. Hauled buckets of water through 2 feet of snow and spent time with her in the barn in -10°F so she wouldn't give up. (Minus 40° he locked chickens in with her for companions.) He couldn't show her, sell her, breed her. Eventually she went to the butcher.
My son became a US Marine and did humanitarian tours in Central America. Marines protect those that can't do it themselves.
So proud of all farm folks!
I used to live next to a farm with sheep, cattle, and pigs. I walked my dogs on the pathways and the farmer granted me permission to use a big, disused field to exercise the dogs. I was only a child, but I always kept my dogs on their leads, and I always cleaned up after them, my dogs were genuinely well behaved though, like they didn't react to the farm animals, no barking, lunging attacks or any kind of trouble from my dogs. I was always respectful and kept them leashed, despite them being good, friendly dogs. The farmer was cool with us, he entrusted us to roam around on his land, he didn't just let anyone use his land. If my dogs were problematic, I'd have never taken them near farmland with livestock, even if they're slashed seeing as aggressive, barking dogs stress out animals like sheep. My dogs had absolutely no reaction to other animals, like they didn't even try to 'play' with livestock because they knew it wasn't allowed. J
I'm sorry people haven't respected your land or livestock
I've trained many dogs over the years to fit in with my small farm. Ranging from retired greyhounds, rescue dogs ( including hunting breeds) and Dobermans. All been successfully trained to be unsupervised with free flying canaries in the house to chickens, rabbits, Rheas and sheep. My current one year old doby is my only failure, I can not trust and will never be able to trust unsupervised with my sheep, due to bad breeding has bad personality traits! But more to the point even though previous dogs I would trust 100% with my creatures, they don't recognize other people's chickens, sheep ect as something to respect. So yes please put your dogs on leads, you might think your little pup would never hurt another animal! But once the chase starts the damage is being done.
My mum's dog yanked out of her hands (so he's still on the lead and has run off with it on) and went to chase sheep that were in a field with a walking path through it which doesn't normally have any animals in it. He'd been on farms before which is how we know he's scared of cows and usually also sheep (his fear of farm animals is why the farmer put him up for adoption), but on this occasion he changed completely and decided to chase. My other half caught him and pinned him down, and since then the things we've changed is
1) change where he's walked to somewhere that's further away from fields,
2) drive up before the walk to see if there's sheep in any of the fields that are near by just in case, and modify the route if necessary
3) full walking harness, not just a collar so he's easier to control if he does get excited again.
He's never let off the lead anyway because he's terrified of other dogs and runs and hides from them, but we just make sure that if he's walked by anybody else that they know not to let him off.
There's things you can do to be responsible with dogs, especially if you know you're going to be near livestock. There's no excuse to let your dog off near fields with animals in for a start, and if your dog ever has tried to chase small animals like cats, squirrels, birds etc or moving things like bicycle or car wheels, you should know they can't be trusted near livestock and should change both your route and how you secure your dog during walks
Same here in Ireland, it's not the dogs fault but unfortunately you can't shoot the owner's
Some people put a donkey or a lama with a flock because they protect their flock.
typically used to prevent from foxes but people should have control of there dogs in the countryside it shouldn't be up to the farmer to sort thr issue of another person's dog
Big dogs will tare a donkey and such apart. Seen plenty. Best option is electric , full fencing into ground, livestock guardian dogs.
I've watched the opening a couple times and cannot stop laughing. 😂 So sorry bout the dog worry how frustrating. Hope to see an update on the lil lamb with the splint. ❤
I have a jrt x and a staffy, (16 month pup)
They have both been around sheep since young. I live in rural Lincolnshire, lots of sheep around, so they're trained around them to avoid the issue of not being able to recall them. Despite that, during lambing times they stay on the lead.
Do you even know what terrier means? It means ‘to ground’ as in a terrier goes after anything on the ground. Once they lock on to the chase there is no stopping them. I speak from experience as I have 3 staffies. I can’t imagine how you think it’s okay to walk your dogs without a lead during non-lambing times. There are still lambs in the fields year round.
I do live in a town and I do have 2 big dogs due to break-ins being quite common in my area. But as a responsible dog owner I keep my dogs on the lead. Specially during spring and summer time. Not only because of farmers usually having babies at that time but also wildlife having babies and I do not want my dogs to cause harm out of their playfulness.
"playfulness"
I saw the comment about keeping companion animals like donkeys. They are very good guard animals but in some places you do have to put up warning signs because they don’t discriminate between stray people and stray dogs. Companion dogs work for some people. I love the idea of llamas and have seen that work very effectively.
Cammie am so sorry to hear about this. Have had neighbors dogs get in with my sheep and did a fair amount of chasing. Fleeces showed the stress and I took the time to make the barn area secure, so at least my ewes could be safe.
Hi Cammy I understand your frustration. I had a wolf attac just yesterday at 7 Pm. 3 days ago the same happened to a friend of mine. Both of our livestocks are situated 300 mts by town. A very serius problem! Bye bye form Italy
One of my other shepherd friends lost half of her flock to a pack of domestic dogs last July. She lives and has her flock in the city. Who knew that there were packs of dogs ion town. Also I don’t know what they call them in Scotland, but here in the USA we call them pool noodles. They work great as a splint for lambs. You cut them to the exact length that you need and then slice it up both sides so you can fit it around the injury. Then just wrap it with vet wrap tape. Works great. Good luck with the dogs.
I’m so sorry. This is not a rant this is a PSA! And THANK YOU for sayin this ! As a trainer I’ve had to explain to clients that “you don’t know your dog” it doesn’t always go down well and some had chosen not to work with me because of that. But oh well.. OMG I had to explain having your dog “experience” animals is not fun to livestock when your dog is lunging barking, straining on the leash. Then I have to explain that even it’s on “public land” in USA the rancher lease the land and they have the first right and please if you a fence don’t go through it especially when it says “animal grazing!!” You’d be surprise what I have to explain to clients that it should be common sense and I really don’t mind and I’m happy to educate as long as they are receptive.
Unfortunately common sense doesn’t come to everyone! Good on you for training the correct way
Absolutely you have a right to RANT and this is the perfect place for some support from us when you talk it out gets it out of your system sending you lots of love and hope any of your nearby subscribers share this video around your area for information for your neighbors ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I really do feel for you, Cameron, about dogs chasing your sheep. People really do need to watch their dogs. I agree with you about people not wanting to get involved as if you’d been notified last night you may have been able to stop it sooner and avoid damage. Good luck and take care.
Thanks Barbara, hope you are well.
I so glad you have expressed your outrage. There are too many stupid big dog owners! They should keep their dog on a leash!🦌💌
oh, Cammy, you put a smile on my face!🦌💌❤️🐑🇨🇦🙏
The Hoof GP sent me, love your content.I have 3 big dog's, the owner's are at fault. My dog's are in a fenced yard or on a leash. Owner's are the problem.
Thanks for coming to have a look at the channel Robin, sounds like you are a smart dog owner.
That's maddening so sorry hope that little lamb does ok
This helped open my eyes about what it means to have a trained dog. I have a little corgi (he a runt and small for his breed) BUT he is a herding dog breed and I would NEVER let him off the lead round life stock, let alone in a wild looking area!
I have had a bad experience at a dog park where an owner had his husky-intact was going crazy/aggressive with other dogs and I was scared for my dogs life- “oh he is only playing” it took TWO BUFF MEN to hold back the dog- the dogs instincts kicked in and his hormones amplified it! Guy was SO proud of his dog having his “man-hood” and was a “real dog” then man up and became a REAL DOG OWNER!!
I had a problem with a neighbors hunting dogs once. They move into a cottage near the fields I had. They ripped up a few sheep and killed lambs. I knew it was them but couldn't prove it.
One of my ewes had it's ears ripped off and it's back end malled trying to protect her lamb. There was not a mark on it. Such a good mom.
Most people walk their dogs at the same time of day in the same place. Maybe they need to meet an angry sheep farmer.
Poor little lamb. I hope he heals quickly. I understand your frustration & anger at people that let their dogs off leash. Its hard for me because I live in Canada to understand having public walking paths that go through private property. I have heard there are maps with the walking paths listed . I hope you have no more trouble with your sheep. Have a good weekend!!
Gold Shaw Farms just posted a video. Much different situation as the dogs were off lead to hunt raccoons. And the owner didn’t care to get off his private land or control the dogs. At least he didn’t lose any of his flocks. It’s so disrespectful when others can’t take a little a responsibility and decency for other people.
I'm so sorry for your sheep! I hope the little lamb makes a full recovery! Don't be sorry for ranting! You have every right too! Here in the US lots of places have leash laws for this reason. Your dog can or will be put down if it attacks people or livestock. Owners are then fined but if the attack was severe enough the owner can go to jail. Irresponsible dog owners get my blood up too! I think a license is a great idea!
The laws aren't maybe as strict here or not enforced to well, people don't actually have the fear that their dog will be shot if it is caught worrying sheep.
I just found your channel recently, its quickly turned into one of my very favourite UA-cam channels! I'm not a farmer, I don't have sheep, but I've farming in my heritage including sheep and have tremendous respect for the job you do. Also its hysterical to see if I can decipher what your saying when you get really excited!! Best to you and the family!
I think we're all worked up with you! Hopefully that's an end to it.😐
Did the mismothered lambs get sorted out? Lizzie did a great job splinting that little blacky's leg. I hope he heals up quickly.
Best wishes.
Information: Course a water running along the distance that will be pasture for sheep and wider than what I saw on that land of course water, would be better. Perhaps you will need that runs water in the future, maybe you will extend plastic pipes that operate with the process of distillation or sprinkler in places where there is no grass, so that weeds can be grown, God willing.
Love how much indepth caring you have for your birthing ewes and the newborn lambs. Everyone saved is profit instead of loss
We had much the same problems with wild running dogs, most often in packs.
Neighbors that let their dogs run loose.
We had to use high powered rifles and leg traps the loses became so high.
Dogs would go on a killing rampage, little eating, just blood lust killing.
Also had a severe coyote problem.
Foxes must be hard on your lambs?
Oh Cammy. Im sorry for the little black lambs injury. But now we'll have to give him a name... for reference sake on future videos...How's about EBONY? ('Black' in english .. not sure what it means in the Scottish language?)
Years ago we had friends that had a farm and they had a flock of goats. Some city folk decided to come visit with an unleashed german shepherd in the back of their pickup. The dog was out of the pick up and savaged two goats before it could be stopped, one so badly it had to be put down. After that they had a sign on the front gate saying no dogs.
Invest in some guard donkeys or llamas. They'll have a heart-to-heart or hoof-to-head with dogs.
I've had large and small dogs. Currently a 12lb. chihuahua mix. The first day I adopted her she slipped her collar (which they put on her too loose) and chased deer into the woods. I had a 3 legged Silky Terrier (also 12lbs) that loved chasing deer out of the yard. They all chase prey that runs away. The 3 legged terrier was adopted from a couple who let him get out of their fenced yard and chase cars so he got hit and lost his leg. NO DOG should be off leash on someone elses property. We had shock collars on our past dogs. They stayed loose only with us in the yard to play and run. A good fitting harness and leash is best control for dogs so not to damage their throats.
Cam cam you're the man, if you can't do it, no one can!!!🤟👍💥
I feel for you. My partner is a sheep farmer and I'm sick to death of loose dogs. People are so ignorant and I agree stricter laws need to be passed to remedy incidents like this. So sorry.