3 significant geopolitical signals in neighbourhood, Pakistan, China & Gen Naravane on Siachen

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • Three significant developments have taken place in the Indian neighbourhood with talks with Chinese underway. Shekhar Gupta looks at the new Pakistan National Security Policy document which moves towards progress with India & General MM Naravane's interesting comments on Siachen. In Episode 917 of #CutTheClutter, we also look at story of a mysterious line on maps of Siachen.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 844

  • @DS-oo9nc
    @DS-oo9nc 2 роки тому +96

    The moment I heard about a straight line on a map, I thought of Americans. It had to be them too, the most unimaginative mappers with their square states.

  • @actioergosum5193
    @actioergosum5193 2 роки тому +204

    With the PLA in Depsang, this could be a ploy to get IA out of the Saltoro range and leave the door open for an eventual takeover of Siachen by the PLA. Let India not repeat the same mistake as was done by vacating Kailash Range in 2021.

    • @actioergosum5193
      @actioergosum5193 2 роки тому +19

      @Xhx Ztz It's self-serving for Indian thinkers to assume that the PLA and the CPC's strategy and actions at the LAC have had any significant negative impact on China. It has not had any impact whatsoever on China's economy, global standing, etc. A strategic embrace between India and US is good to think of but on the ground the US is in no mood to send its troops and kinetic forces to help India defend the LAC. This is India's war to fight and once again, like in 1962, India's armed forces are at best able to defend but in no shape to take the battle into enemy territory.
      For India to have any chance in getting out of this quagmire, it needs to make (or threaten) swift moves westward (not northward) towards the CPEC road. That might force the PLA's attention westward and ease up pressure in Depsang. That said, I do not think the current political dispensation has even the gumption to consider that possibility.

    • @allah786pbuh2
      @allah786pbuh2 2 роки тому +11

      This India is not the Nehru-Gandhi (Chacha-Bapu) India...
      This India has oiled its shaft...

    • @ravichandra9302
      @ravichandra9302 2 роки тому +16

      No country will take interest in any battle now, as these countries are aware of how much they go back economically if they go for war.
      America will enjoy if India, China and Pakistan go to war.

    • @sandippatil6316
      @sandippatil6316 2 роки тому +15

      @Xhx Ztz China don't care about Pakistan. In 1971 India divided Pakistan. What China did in 1971? Nothing. During 1999 Kargil war? Nothing to save face of Pakistan.

    • @prasantanandi9017
      @prasantanandi9017 2 роки тому +10

      @Xhx Ztz if only PLA had balls

  • @Tryingtobringchange
    @Tryingtobringchange 2 роки тому +69

    Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
    We now have S400Nand Rafale and the balance of power has finally tilted om our side. Why give Pakistan the opportunity of time to regroup and recuperate? Since when did we start believing Pakistan? Ofcourse they want peace now that they're in no position to fight- it's just 1965 in reverse but with a minor difference- India is not the aggressor here. Nor should India be pacifist now

    • @XtremeFun
      @XtremeFun 2 роки тому +5

      If pakistan attacks with china, your s400 and rafales would go in the drain. No country can win a two front war

    • @shreyanshumishra225
      @shreyanshumishra225 2 роки тому +21

      @@XtremeFun 😂😂😂 when you believe you won every war.

    • @WhistleMaster
      @WhistleMaster 2 роки тому +12

      Agree, this is the time to break up Pakistan!

    • @harsh.mishra28
      @harsh.mishra28 2 роки тому +6

      @@XtremeFun don't kid yourself😂

    • @hamadrehman2986
      @hamadrehman2986 2 роки тому +5

      Not in position to fight? Who told you? You are looking at our economic condition and judging on that. Mind you that just two years ago, Modi tested us and we replied with a bloody nose. Imran khan being a staunch supporter of peace and want his regime to be a welfare one, is willing to avoid any sort of conflicts. That reflected in his policies in Afghanistan as well. Where he avoided to indulge in the power politics there. But it doesn't mean that capacity to fight isn't there. We have every tool in our box to deter against Indian aggression. We have deterrence at every level against you. Whether conventional or nuclear. You just did test it two years ago and we showed you that we have the capability to counter you conventionally. Don't even think of crossing the border, our tactical nukes will take care of you very well. Your S400 will be of no use, we have lots to counter that too. Showing aggression this time will only mean destruction of India from two sides. And BTW talking of economy, your economic condition isn't very good either. Your Godi media is hiding it is another thing. You will have much to lose than us. But the most worrying thing that I see is that educated people in India is calling for war against a nuclear state. Rather than go for peace and solve our problems, godi media and WhatsApp university have brainwashed Indian youth for war and Pakistan annihilation. We have been ridiculed for being brainwashed with distorted facts but the truth is that Indian youth,which more educated than ours, is more brainwashed and filled with hatred. And this sense of false superiority and overconfidence will destroy the largest democracy in the world. Lekin akhir me kahunga k kisi ghalat fehmi me na rehna India walo. Is dafa aake to dikhao pakistan tukde kardega tumara. Your Army will have to fight 20crore battlehardened people. We have seen it all.

  • @MohanKumar-pv4zu
    @MohanKumar-pv4zu 2 роки тому +85

    Simple logic, Pakistan economy is in bad shape,hence want to be strong on economy and then wage a war against India.

    • @MohammedShafiq-id5ov
      @MohammedShafiq-id5ov 2 роки тому +9

      Pakistan economy is recovering well and pak has fought india in situation when its economy was worser pak knows its objectives so India shouldn't be mistaken

    • @adityapandey4415
      @adityapandey4415 2 роки тому +25

      @@MohammedShafiq-id5ov abe jao be 3rd grade failed state. Hum hai toh tum ho, tumse ham nhi.

    • @shouryasanjeev9284
      @shouryasanjeev9284 2 роки тому +21

      @@MohammedShafiq-id5ov
      Gas crisis
      Debt crisis
      Terrorists getting out of hand(lost double the men as India last year)
      Urea crisis
      IMF controls where your country spends money
      Sada bahaar fatf membership to mil hi gayi hai
      Gdp per capita is half that of India with 4 times the poverty rate

    • @MohammedShafiq-id5ov
      @MohammedShafiq-id5ov 2 роки тому +3

      @@shriharikulkarni2305 lol you dont understand pakistanis they pull these manouveres to manipulate even independent reports are showing that pakistan economy will stabilise within a few years infact pak is forecast to grow substantially this year

    • @MohanKumar-pv4zu
      @MohanKumar-pv4zu 2 роки тому +4

      @@MohammedShafiq-id5ov All the best

  • @rishabhsarda7205
    @rishabhsarda7205 2 роки тому +23

    Of the hundreds of episodes I've seen of CTC, this is one of the most interesting and informative. Kudos to Col. Bull Kumar. Truly a story worth informing the youth of the country.

  • @IndroneelMukerji
    @IndroneelMukerji 2 роки тому +92

    Never ever underestimate the capacity of those who have civilisational, implacable hate to harm us. Our best interests is to have a stable buffer(s) between India and Afghanistan.

    • @mailtorajrao
      @mailtorajrao 2 роки тому +3

      One might argue that an unstable Pakistan, not sure of their footing is the better situation...

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому +24

      Nope...broken and weak Pakistan is the best neighbor we can have

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому +20

      @Ismail Khan we don't believe in peace offerings from an ideologically driven state . Frogs who live inside a well find birds strange.

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому +14

      @Ismail Khan yes 32 in last 7 years out of Muslim population of 30 crore. And most of them happened in Assam Bangladesh border for cow smuggling which are livelihood for poor cattle farmers

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому +12

      @Ismail Khanwhat is RSS ideology btw? You lot Equate RSS with Taliban and Isis.. this is the level of your knowledge about RSS. So give me a break ffs

  • @capspi2376
    @capspi2376 2 роки тому +103

    Shekhar sir, it was such an informative CTC. Hope to hear more historical stories on our borders and our oceans in the future CTCs. As always, master of story telling! Please bring us more such stories :) Love from Bangalore!

    • @allah786pbuh2
      @allah786pbuh2 2 роки тому +5

      YES a good story teller... Before sleep I see his videos... I get a good sound sleep...

    • @usa8302
      @usa8302 2 роки тому +2

      @@allah786pbuh2 , Ola Who UkbabyBer.

  • @IndroneelMukerji
    @IndroneelMukerji 2 роки тому +30

    First off : Re. Pak’s NSP : Balderdash - 100 years of no ‘hostility’; trade with India. India should have policies geared to screw them economically. Always.

    • @farida4133
      @farida4133 2 роки тому +1

      Lol that security policy is not worth a toilet paper...that no hostility joke should not be taken seriously. They are liars

    • @bharatbhushan4243
      @bharatbhushan4243 2 роки тому +1

      Good gestures should be returned with good gestures. If they extend the hand of friendship, we should hug them. If they point their guns at us, we should erase them.

  • @konchoktsephal6273
    @konchoktsephal6273 2 роки тому +29

    Nubra valleys is cross the way towards to Siachen glaciers. It is a strategically important located to India territory .we know being a Ladakh we have always helps to army

  • @maharaaja
    @maharaaja 2 роки тому +21

    Operation meghdoot in 1984 that saw India occupy siachen wasn't really a " soldier to soldier" combat, but more of a case of India outmanoeuvering Pakistan in occupying the heights based on intelligence inputs that the Pakistanis were shopping for high altitude winter wear for their soldiers,..As for the security policy that rules out hostilities with India for a hundred years, well, it needs to be taken not just with a pinch of salt, but needs a visit to the salt pan.... For Pakistan has a history of going back on its commitments, whether on its founder's promise of an honorable status to its minorities with respect for all religions, or in Musharrafs commitment of " not allowing their territory for subversive activities" against India... Looks like Pakistan recognises its in deep trouble economically and it's buying time .. Finally, the whole concept of mutual withdrawal from Siachen is funny, coz there is no Pakistan army in siachen, they are well below the Saltoro ridge...In my personal view, India should never withdraw from the region because it provides strategic access to Shaksgam valley occupied by China and karakoram pass, not to mention DBO.

    • @maharaaja
      @maharaaja 2 роки тому +2

      @Shivan Shivan Operation meghdoot was in 1984... The event you are narrating was in 1987 (Operation Rajiv) if I'm not mistaken. It was one of the failed Pakistani attempts to capture Siachen..

    • @maquacr7014
      @maquacr7014 2 роки тому +1

      @Shivan Shivan Stop changing the goal posts. India has an altitude advantage. Same reason why Indian millitary kept getting beaten up during Kargill war before bombing all Pakistani positions using air force.

    • @maquacr7014
      @maquacr7014 2 роки тому +1

      @Shivan Shivan It is true. From mid March to late May, your forces kept getting beaten up. Situation changed after India re-occupied Tiger hill courtesy of attacking Pakistani positions from air.

    • @maquacr7014
      @maquacr7014 2 роки тому +1

      @Shivan Shivan I don't care about Pakistani millotary one bit. Nice try.

  • @sumitbhattacharya7917
    @sumitbhattacharya7917 2 роки тому +9

    If only Geography and History were taught like this in our classes. Great presentation!!!

  • @catchjyoti
    @catchjyoti 2 роки тому +15

    Thanks to Amit Paul for the research into finding out that how the straight line was added. And to Bull Kumar for securing it for us. And to you for letting us know about this piece of history

  • @anwarsaeed3731
    @anwarsaeed3731 2 роки тому +4

    There should be no war between India and Pakistan or between India and China live like Canada America and Mexico life is not for hate love each other no matter who you are

  • @0810Sunil
    @0810Sunil 2 роки тому +67

    Excellent! Master story teller.👌
    Hard to believe Pakistan. They may want peace today but the moment economy recovers even a bit, they will start talking jihad.

    • @hamadrehman2986
      @hamadrehman2986 2 роки тому +2

      InshaAllah

    • @allah786pbuh2
      @allah786pbuh2 2 роки тому +1

      SG can only tell stories and he is good at that...

    • @allah786pbuh2
      @allah786pbuh2 2 роки тому +2

      Pakistan's economy is going to hit rock bottom... Amen

    • @koumei1709
      @koumei1709 2 роки тому +1

      @@hamadrehman2986 . So allah doesnt want peace you accepted lol

    • @narasimumr.1531
      @narasimumr.1531 2 роки тому

      If Pak wants peace with India, they jolly well can. First condition: leave POK voluntarily and completely taking along with you your radicalised population. Then peace will prevail.

  • @adityagupta101
    @adityagupta101 2 роки тому +6

    Nice to see acknowledgement of Col Bull Kumar - legendary mountaineer and great son of India.

  • @Himarius
    @Himarius 2 роки тому +24

    I don’t know but somehow the National Security Policy of Pakistan seems to have the Chinese imprint all over it - buy your time when you are weak, build your economic muscle even if it entails temporary economic cooperation with your rivals and once you have economic parity or an advantage, then reassert yourself with full force - Hmmm….

    • @saurabhshankar.24
      @saurabhshankar.24 2 роки тому +2

      Bang Onn.

    • @MohammedShafiq-id5ov
      @MohammedShafiq-id5ov 2 роки тому +1

      Indeed it does pak will have economic stability within a few years reports already indicate that our economy will recover this year CPEC has slowed due to COVID however this year it will flourish moreover Pakistan has some deals with russians and Afghans with central asian countries so pak in concluding these agreements and india cannot evacuate 900,000 indian troops from IOK and pak knows once it's ready it will take Kashmir this is inevitable

    • @MSav1988
      @MSav1988 2 роки тому +1

      @@MohammedShafiq-id5ov it will take decades of high growth for Pakistan to have economic and industrial parity with India.That is assuming India doesn’t grow above 5% for all that time 🤔

    • @MohammedShafiq-id5ov
      @MohammedShafiq-id5ov 2 роки тому +1

      @@MSav1988 it doesn't need economic parity with india all it needs is stable economics which it is on course of achieving

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому

      @@MohammedShafiq-id5ov 😂😂😂😂

  • @sharabhpachory9810
    @sharabhpachory9810 2 роки тому +11

    In the initial part of the show, you say, perhaps inadvertently, that the Indian Army occupied the Siachin heights in 1994. It was actually 1984 (as you aver later). Can cause confusion amongst the uninitiated. Perhaps a slip of the tongue.
    A good, enlightening episode. I had the privilege of serving a full tenure in winters as a Captain on the Northern Glacier more than 30 years back. Went right upto Indira Col!
    Thanks

  • @kennyan8203
    @kennyan8203 2 роки тому +5

    Kudos to all very intelligent and hardworking people working in embassies to make this happen. War is never a answer. 🇮🇳❤️

  • @samyvik2888
    @samyvik2888 2 роки тому +13

    good to know that 'pakistan has a policy' - we must be naive to believe that they mean what they disclose. their army's survival depends on raising war cries with India.
    Anyways, India should stop covering Pakistan and comparing India with them. Just move on and look ahead - just deal with them when they mess with us.

    • @drsalmantoosy4055
      @drsalmantoosy4055 2 роки тому +2

      Tera media pqgal hai jo har waqat pak ko le kar laga rehta hai.....jaan choro hamaree

  • @WhatsInAName222
    @WhatsInAName222 2 роки тому +52

    Outstanding presentation. I highly recommend “White As the Shroud: India, Pakistan and War on the Frontiers of Kashmir” by Myra Macdonald. It gets into a lot of detail about the Siachen conflict and provides perspectives from India and Pakistan.

  • @hariommaheshwari606
    @hariommaheshwari606 2 роки тому +3

    Indian China policy like Kashmir policy has been flattered since beginning. Let India recognise Tibbet as independent nation. What happens then. It will set China. Our border dispute with China is due to our lack of granting recognition to Tibbet

  • @bhushantotla8120
    @bhushantotla8120 2 роки тому +1

    By when can we expect a follow up video on this? Curious for the phenomenal detailed work.

  • @anurag5877
    @anurag5877 2 роки тому +13

    I am not a hawk about pakistan india peace process but when the documents say it doesn't want hostility with india for next 100 years I can smell I'll intention.

  • @hemantbhagwat4843
    @hemantbhagwat4843 2 роки тому +17

    Excellent explanation. One important addition to the information- Indian RAW agent in London informed Delhi that Pakistan is buying 2500 high altitude sets for its brigade located at Skardu. Army int put two and two together and planned its op for Siachen and Saltoro and timed it to perfection. Incidentally Mushraff was the Bdr Cdr of this Bde. I have also one complaint- no talk on Siachen can be complete without mentioning Sub Bana Singh's leadership in physically beating Pak army in their endeavor.

  • @ARG2892
    @ARG2892 2 роки тому +6

    I believe that we shouldn't leave our territories unguarded by agreeing in an agreement with Pakistan & China. History shows that Pakistan never uphold their commitments which led to the kargil war. China on the other hand never uphold the international laws which is visible in the east china sea region. Leaving places like Siachen de militarized would provide them opportunity to recapture it and India would lose the entire state of jammu kashmir and ladakh. We should have a militarize presence on our borders with assuring the neighbors that conditions won't escalate tension from our end unless being challenged.
    It took time and lives sacrificed of our brave army for us to be in a position of strength in our borders and we shouldn't vacate it.

    • @faisalmaqbool2793
      @faisalmaqbool2793 2 роки тому +1

      I will second your opinion. We should not leave our current positions until one crushes the other for ever.

    • @qamarkhan1405
      @qamarkhan1405 2 роки тому +1

      And India upholds her commitments. One commitment was about plebiscite in OCCUPIED KASHMIR. This commitment was made by Pandit Javahir Lal Nehru in the UN.
      Great leader and great nation!!!

    • @maquacr7014
      @maquacr7014 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine talking about backstabbing and never mentioning Indian support to Mukti Bahini in 1971

  • @ashishsawant81
    @ashishsawant81 2 роки тому +7

    Intresting trivia about Siachen keep up the good work makes me not to miss any episodes of CTC

  • @ranjitkamath2417
    @ranjitkamath2417 2 роки тому +9

    1984 not 1994 as you mentioned

  • @balrajparmar5824
    @balrajparmar5824 2 роки тому +5

    This was a brilliant episode with very interesting information. Thanks Shekhar!!

  • @arunagarwal4574
    @arunagarwal4574 2 роки тому +2

    Unless india is 10 times stronger economically and militarily ,we must not lower our guard

  • @duarahbikram
    @duarahbikram 2 роки тому +1

    My Dad was part of the team that Col Kumar lead. He would never disclose all details about it until he wrote an article last year. Unfortunately he passed away in 2021. Will make sure my children and there children also remember his brave deeds.

  • @NARAYAN1964
    @NARAYAN1964 2 роки тому +10

    There is news that the Pak National Security policy says that all normalization of relations with India would not happen with a Govt headed by Modi? Is this true and have you skipped this on purpose?

    • @shouryasanjeev9284
      @shouryasanjeev9284 2 роки тому +5

      Good.
      What do we have to gain from normalisation of ties?
      Their economy is crashing, people are literally starving under double digit inflation and they're stuck in circular debt.
      Besides normalisation of ties to madarsa graduates means look neutral on the surface and fund "peacefuls" under the table.

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому

      @@shouryasanjeev9284 Modi normalise Kar Dega agar Pak se Offer Aya to... Wokes ki validation ke liye Kuch v karega modi

    • @pharaohakhneton9553
      @pharaohakhneton9553 2 роки тому

      India's foreign policy ,like foreign policy of any democratic countries,do not always depend on individuals unlike in autocratic or authoritarian regimes ,where decisions rest on whimsical individuals at the top ruling the country. So why drag Modi in the picture.Natiinal security policy and foreign relations are dynamic in nature and constant adjustments are done on the basis of changing geo-political conditions. I claim no expertise on the subject ,which is far too complex. I say this as a matter of common-sense.

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 роки тому

      @@pharaohakhneton9553 India is ruled by one man Modi.. whole BJP is just one man show

  • @rahulgoel623
    @rahulgoel623 2 роки тому +9

    We had similar situations in the past and yet the chinese still invaded in ladakh,
    Pakistani army isnt the most trustworthy and india has the capability and finance to keep siachen even if an agreement is made to accept siachen in indias possesion it doesnt finalise kashmir nor protect against the pakistani army trying another kargil...

    • @priyanshupandey2670
      @priyanshupandey2670 2 роки тому +2

      @Ismail Khan thik h bhaiya hum darte h apne bahaduri se kya kar liya

    • @jayati6693
      @jayati6693 2 роки тому +1

      @@priyanshupandey2670 they surrendered lol that too 93k.

    • @AmanYadav-vq1wn
      @AmanYadav-vq1wn 2 роки тому

      @Ismail Khan u think that we believe our hawkish media, no never, we trust on the army officers and journalists like shekhar sir

  • @6492800006
    @6492800006 2 роки тому +3

    It was good research and explanation. All credit goes Col. Kumar and indian military for their brave action.

  • @poras1513
    @poras1513 2 роки тому +5

    *I thoroughly Enjoyed the video and I really appreciate your work.*
    🙏🏻

  • @sainigagan5
    @sainigagan5 2 роки тому +5

    Sir, knowing these deceiving neighbors they could just be disarming us with their rhetoric only to launch a two side war (eventually).

  • @TheBakor
    @TheBakor 2 роки тому +5

    6:39 AAP ad in between (spot fixing), well played Gupta, Kitna milla

  • @mahamir9401
    @mahamir9401 2 роки тому +4

    Being eco-friendly, we should stop arming its glaciers, as a wise man once said even 'if we are told there is gold under its surface'

  • @aspmusic5904
    @aspmusic5904 2 роки тому +2

    One of the best episodes of the 900 odd that you have presented, Shekharji 🙂. Kudos!

  • @commonindian3997
    @commonindian3997 2 роки тому +6

    Will Pakistan exist for next 100 years ?

    • @saimamanzoor1151
      @saimamanzoor1151 2 роки тому

      Pakistan has been made to exist.
      Do not live in fool paradise. We are here till judgement day.

  • @sushant80
    @sushant80 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Shekhar Gupta for simplified explanation of such complex issues

  • @shekhar6267
    @shekhar6267 2 роки тому +9

    I am never trusting Pakistani we have already seen what India did after Atal Ji Visit and then what happen after Modi Lahore visit.😲

  • @AbdulMalik-gj6br
    @AbdulMalik-gj6br 2 роки тому +1

    Shekhar sir it was interesting analysis respect from pakistan

  • @vinaymaheshwari3074
    @vinaymaheshwari3074 2 роки тому +1

    Good Analysis

  • @shudhanshushekharsingh
    @shudhanshushekharsingh 2 роки тому +2

    was waiting to hear shekhar sir's view on this. glad to see its already here.

  • @allansimoes8338
    @allansimoes8338 2 роки тому +1

    In my medicals at India House,in Liverpool the Doctor kept hitting my Knees hard with a hammer and said ,
    When Our boys come to your country you mistreat them.
    Do you know the " Free India Army.
    It was 1975 and I had never heard of the Free India Army.
    Allan.

  • @puggleski6097
    @puggleski6097 2 роки тому +6

    China's pincer of Arunachal and Kashmir, along with the black bishop in Sri Lanka on the Indian Ocean diagonals seems to be working. We are now looking at large troop deployments, increasing military expenses, lowered exports, expensive imports, and clipped geopolitical influence ( esp after Afghanistan ).
    Two steps forward, one step back. This round goes to China.

  • @venomfu007
    @venomfu007 2 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed the episode very much!

  • @casperjoshi
    @casperjoshi 2 роки тому +3

    Government of India would be foolish to see any good intentions in these developments.

  • @meera1034
    @meera1034 2 роки тому +2

    This is a really good episode with detailed information. Thank you SG.

  • @vijaymuppala7372
    @vijaymuppala7372 2 роки тому

    Tnx

  • @naziakiran5698
    @naziakiran5698 2 роки тому +1

    Great effort sir👍👍👍keep it up

  • @abhrendushekharchowdhury403
    @abhrendushekharchowdhury403 2 роки тому

    Marvelous Analysis thnx ~~

  • @sanjeevtandon4029
    @sanjeevtandon4029 2 роки тому

    Sir, I m Dr. Sanjeev Tandon. I have been listening to all ur reviews. Ur details are highly reseaeched and informative. Kudos to ur efforts... God Bless Indian Leadership...n INDIA atlarge.

  • @aseemjain1760
    @aseemjain1760 2 роки тому +3

    You can deal with a tough enemy but not an unscrupulous enemy. They just want to buy time to do something about their economy. We did them another favour by declaring cease fire on LOC - they were able to redirect their forces to afgan border to support taliban. When will Indian leaders learn- the time to strike the enemy is when he is down and not when he is strong- let’s stop this Prithviraj mentality and get real.

    • @aseemjain1760
      @aseemjain1760 2 роки тому +1

      All we need to do at this time is to mobilise similar to what we had done after parliament attacks. Their economy will collapse on its own- do we have the gumption or do we want to keep losing Indian lives. Do Indian lives not matter? Every day you see coffins coming home.

  • @prakharterrific
    @prakharterrific 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! Simply awesome sir! I can bet that a vast majority of people in India dont know about this. What a clear explanation by you. Thanks a lot :)

  • @hll4017
    @hll4017 2 роки тому +3

    Was it a slip of tongue on your part to say that "Pakistan has to decide about their hostility with China ". Pakistan - and hostile to China?

  • @savithakl7577
    @savithakl7577 2 роки тому +8

    Pakistan is putting up a facade for FATF. Pak will never forgive India for Bangladesh creation. In any case China is the front for Pak. After Kailash range vacation by our Army to China, we should never make this same mistake. Economic collapse in pak is making pak govt to mend fence, but Army will not agree with politicians.

  • @TheSoLuna2
    @TheSoLuna2 2 роки тому

    Excellent episode!

  • @harisundar8698
    @harisundar8698 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant explanation of complex border areas. The ease with which you explain events and its history 🙏. Thanks again SG and print.

  • @santoshk9053
    @santoshk9053 2 роки тому +2

    Really detailed and erudite deep dive on a complex problem!! 👌 👍👏

  • @akaj188
    @akaj188 2 роки тому

    Brilliant analysis by Gupta Sir - one India's best commentators on India - Pakistan relations .

  • @oy1561
    @oy1561 2 роки тому +4

    Let us not give respite to those who use peace to reload their weapons .. they wanted a fight to the finish let's give it to them

    • @hamadrehman2986
      @hamadrehman2986 2 роки тому

      Kar k to dekh lo. Lekin pehle hug k ana. Oh sorry i forgot. Ap k pas to shochale hi nahi he. Abhinandan bhi aya tha idhar. Train ki patri dekh li thi jahaz uthar diya hugne k liay. Hum pir le gaye washroom dikhaya usko k betha idhar hug thay hain log. Dekh k hairan reh gaya bichara

  • @tanujsingh2350
    @tanujsingh2350 2 роки тому +3

    SG at his best again, don't die anytime soon man 😭

  • @vinod.19
    @vinod.19 2 роки тому +2

    1000 years war and 1000 cuts. Bhutto Sr. and Jr. were gone in 10 years. So much for Ghazwa-e-Hind. Soon they would know IMF-e-Pak.

  • @vishaljena5863
    @vishaljena5863 2 роки тому +12

    -- What an informative session.....! Among this hullabaloo of communal politics and hate propaganda, this session taught me something integral to India's geography and the perils Indian Army went through to defend our territory...
    Thank you, Shekhar Sir.

  • @amittaneja9658
    @amittaneja9658 2 роки тому +1

    Pakistan is buying time, Cannot be trusted. No other army in the world has the tenacity and grit to have maintained a permanent base in Siachen for this long. A well researched and well presented episode.

  • @Deveshi.A.
    @Deveshi.A. 2 роки тому

    Great analysis

  • @suryavenkatesan9998
    @suryavenkatesan9998 2 роки тому +9

    I can't even imagine what the strategic planners in the military and mea echelons must be going through. China, Pakistan and India, this is the 'Great game' of our times. I wish we come out of it unscathed.

  • @d0veta1l0
    @d0veta1l0 2 роки тому +3

    This is the usual trick used by Pak military. The Pak General will say they want peace but behind the scenes they have done whatever is possible to sabotage the relationship. in recent times only Musharraf had shown some intent after his Kargil misadventure. We have had hard time resolving Sir Creek dispute, which is a low hanging fruit. Thank you SG for the report.

  • @masoodhassan7520
    @masoodhassan7520 2 роки тому +2

    India has never been trustworthy but Pakistan was naive enough to trusted India. India & Pakistan were committed to respect LoC as per Simla Agreement but India violated it and illegally occupied Siachin glacier in 1984. Tit fir tat, Pakistan caught India by neck at Kargil in 1999. There is a mountain of mistrust between 2 arch rivals. Can India & Pakistan live in peace? It depends on India. There is public opinion in Pakistan that since India never reconciled with the creation of Pakistan & it didn’t miss an opportunity in 1971 to disintegrate Pakistan therefore india will not miss any opportunity to further harm Pakistan in coming days. Pakistan always look towards China to safeguard her national independence. India’s huge amount of sophisticated weapons around the world has forced Pakistan to depend on its nuclear weapons as primary source of its 1st defence. Unfortunately India’s expansionist ambitions pushed it for so called cold start doctrine. As a smaller & weaker neighbor Pakistan takes such moves very seriously. Indian planners really don’t know that they will push their smaller & 10 times smaller enemy in a corner it will certainly react & react strongly. In my opinion India lives on Pakistan’s mercy it is not the other way around. Many Pakistanis ask this question to Indian leaders…was this a big price to held fair & free plebiscite in Kashmir in 1947 instead of grabbing it on gunpoint? So what if Kashmiri had voted for Pakistan. Both countries could have lived in peace like America and Canada as dreamed by Jinnah. But India’s dilemma was (and is) that it’s leadership from Nehru to Modi didn’t grow up. They always had (and have) small mentality. If India can’t solve Kashmir disputed with Pakistan peacefully it shows that it can play its role as a regional power. Remember Shallow Nehru rejected Pakistan’s offer of joint defence against China in 1962 India’s debacle. Rather taking it seriously Nehru made fun of it. It is never too late india should have big heart to move from its “atoot ang” mantra and offer Pakistan olive branch. Without solving Kashmir dispute there can be no peace. Isn’t Kashmir ambition is too big for india to live in war & conflict with Pakistan? Think of it!

  • @sushilindoria
    @sushilindoria 2 роки тому +3

    Stretegic shift in PAK polity? NO. Its most likely tactical retreat to handle the economical crisis there. India must not fall for it. We must keep the heat up on them. We have to convincingly make them accept the status of Kashmir before we stop or accept any PAK pep talk.

  • @brisingr12
    @brisingr12 2 роки тому +3

    @9:08 modi, putin, xi -- happy, appearing happy, visibly embarrassed 😂

  • @himanshunimbas1
    @himanshunimbas1 2 роки тому +10

    Brilliant CTC SG ji ! Your analysis of our neighbours is always top notch. Congratulations to your team also

    • @allah786pbuh2
      @allah786pbuh2 2 роки тому

      Bottom Notch... If you CTC SG, you would get the facts on the ground..

  • @manoranjan4311
    @manoranjan4311 2 роки тому

    Gupta sir ...from where you're getting that yellow sheets

  • @tamsolutions6377
    @tamsolutions6377 2 роки тому

    Gold class journalism.

  • @AminulIslam-pe5ye
    @AminulIslam-pe5ye 2 роки тому

    Sir which laptop you are using ?

  • @dipchatterjee6107
    @dipchatterjee6107 2 роки тому

    Wow this is amazing piece of history on Siachen ! Hats off Shekhar ji 🙏🏻

  • @mr.jyotilal2054
    @mr.jyotilal2054 2 роки тому +2

    love you sir for providing informatic information

  • @frontfacingflash
    @frontfacingflash 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video as always, very informative and entertaining!
    Suggestion: please use mouse pointers when using explanatory graphics such as maps etc.

  • @ravikumarmistry
    @ravikumarmistry 2 роки тому +4

    5 year plan talkin about next 100 years 😁

  • @sudarshansrini
    @sudarshansrini 2 роки тому

    Great info

  • @shadabqureshi6283
    @shadabqureshi6283 2 роки тому

    If Amit Paul reading this....buddy your doing exceptional and fascinating work.🙌❣️Great video.

  • @ivihari
    @ivihari 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent piece 👍very interesting

  • @ramakrishnaht7166
    @ramakrishnaht7166 2 роки тому +2

    Unbelievable deep news research . Too Good to watch. Best news video I have ever seen. #news #Indo Pakistan #siachen glacier 👌👍👏

  • @pritesh0117
    @pritesh0117 2 роки тому +4

    I will take everything that Pakistani establishment say with a grain of salt!

  • @reemag24
    @reemag24 2 роки тому

    This is sooo interesting! thank you @Shekhar Sir and @The Print!

  • @asgharmalik6587
    @asgharmalik6587 2 роки тому

    Good analysis

  • @shreedhar55
    @shreedhar55 2 роки тому +3

    There was an Article On Siachen in National Geographic in 2020 , where the drawing of straight line by American cartographer is stated. The Arti also writers visited Siachen from Pakistan side, Indian Authorities declined permission ( Rightly so ) . It’s detailed one with photos , maps.
    Rajeev Palsule

    • @amitkpaul
      @amitkpaul 2 роки тому

      March 2020 by Freddie Wilkinson....I have credited him in my original piece..Do read my book Meghdoot The Beginning of the Coldest War if you are interested in Siachen

  • @zaffazad4040
    @zaffazad4040 2 роки тому +1

    Regarding India, they are not looking at maintaining NSP for five years; you will find everybody on the same page for the next fifteen years. The Pakistanis will never settle with the current border presence as a permanent control line or demilitarization. India stealthy and wrongfully climbed on heights and captured the Siachen glacier. India wants China to go back from Galwan but does not want o to vacate Siachen? What kind of hypocrisy is that? Gen. Nirvana's talk about Siachen is because the Indian military is under pressure to face China in the Ladakh area. Pakistan's economy is not doing good for sure, but their military spending is less than US$20billion a year. It does not matter how bad their economy is; they will ensure that their military has enough resources to challenge Indians from Sri Creek to Siachen. So, the prudent thing for India and its policymakers is to have some sense and make friendly policies for its neighbours, China and Pakistan. US$3trillion economy would not buy peace for India, only treating its neighbours with dignity, respect and accepting their rights on their territory may ensure stability, a simple principle. The purchase of Rafaels and S400s is a patchwork, not the solution to the challenges the Indian military and its people may face in the foreseeable future.

  • @lakshminarayananrmk
    @lakshminarayananrmk 2 роки тому

    Brilliance is the right word for this kind of journalism.. Amit paul and Shekar sir..👍🏽

  • @ipushkarjoshi22
    @ipushkarjoshi22 2 роки тому +2

    Even Shekar Gupta sir couldn't avoid grinning while summarizing "Pakistan doesn't want hostilities with India for 100 yrs".. 😁😅😝

    • @koumei1709
      @koumei1709 2 роки тому

      @Xhx Ztz . You will only understand once u loose a loved one.

    • @ipushkarjoshi22
      @ipushkarjoshi22 2 роки тому

      @@koumei1709 well my grandfather was serving as a Captain and was posted in Baramulla during 1971 war and my cousin brother is presently in IMA I know what loss is.. what I ment by my statement was that Pakistan's such comments cannot be taken seriously..

  • @AnujYadav-qn4jd
    @AnujYadav-qn4jd 2 роки тому

    Brilliant as usual. Very informative, excellent narration.

  • @msnageshrao
    @msnageshrao 2 роки тому

    Excellent analysis sir, thank you

  • @soundar4270
    @soundar4270 2 роки тому +1

    If Pakistan declares 100 years piece with India, let them say. India should not care about the statement.
    Pakistan banned trading with India after abrogation of Article 370. Now they are importing at higher cost.
    Let them pay higher

  • @rajivjain8000
    @rajivjain8000 2 роки тому +1

    Great to know about Pakistan policy. Indian policy must remain tight till we get back POK & after that only we can be at peace. We must appreciate current regime for handling the situation so swiftly & tilting the position in India's favour.

    • @khalistanifreedomfighter3056
      @khalistanifreedomfighter3056 2 роки тому

      Teri bharat mata ko cheer dain gai beta agr azad kashmir per nazar rakhi to hum abhi taak indian illegally occupied jammu kashmir nhi bhoolay hain undhbhakat

  • @pravingandhi4468
    @pravingandhi4468 2 роки тому

    I love how Shekharji explains complicated to issues

  • @dhreetee3
    @dhreetee3 2 роки тому +1

    @Shekhar It is sad that you made another factual error at 11:53 minutes into the video, by saying "1994" instead of 1984 as the year when India captured Siachen Glacier.

  • @adityasharma2k
    @adityasharma2k 2 роки тому

    Gupta ji 🙏

  • @dhreetee3
    @dhreetee3 2 роки тому

    @SekharGupta what do you mean "continuing hostility with China" at 7:20 in the video?
    Did you mean "continuing hostility with India"?