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7 reasons to pick the Yamaha THR over the Positive Grid Spark Amp
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
- 7 Reasons to pick the Yamaha THR over the Positive Grid Spark Amp
The Spark is a fantastic amp, but here's 7 things that might make you want to plunk down your loot on the Yamaha THRii.
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00:00 - intro
00:04 - native desktop apps
00:11 - multi function knobs
00:18 - portability
00:25 - demon eyes!
00:32 - record wet/dry into your DAW
00:39 - less is more!
00:47 - cabinet o'plenty!
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I like how you didn’t mention the price difference 😂 for what you get for the spark is no comparison.
yeah but it still sounds bad
@@warshipsatin8764 I’m here a year later and I can confirm it doesn’t sounds the best. Too much Base
Got the latest update? Use the equaliser pedal to fix the bass@RetroExhibitCollective
I’m so new to learning guitar that I have zero clue what this man just said
I have a Spark and zero clue of what he said other than misleading.
Make it your priority to learn these terms. I’m new to guitar too but I understood everything first watch
Don't worry about it dude, just get anything and play every single day. The rest will come.
@GTsimms Nothing he said was misleading. Everything was 100% factual. Having said that everyone should make up their own mind which amplifier they want for their own needs. Don't get too emotionally attached to your gear my friend.
“Why would I want my guitar to sound wet?”
Reason #1: sound // Reason #2: wireless - When you’re used to it, you can’t come back. The main two things to improve are : be able to select IR from a dedicated knob - select more than the 5 presets (without using the app). Then Yamaha will have the best desk amp platform - and this seems really easy to implement at hardware side. 😉
Hoping these features will be available on the next THR generation… 🙏🏻
Next video idea : 70 reasons to pick the spark over the thr😂😂
I don't think I can talk that fast!
@@cleverdood You forgot reason 8.. its double the price of the spark since we all are in #BidensAmerica folks will be willing to pay...🙄
Hurt feelings over an amp
@@1148bucknastywho said that? Go back to your soy latte and let the adults talk.
You are absolutely correct and the sales figures completely validate your comment so this isn't even a matter of opinion anymore. The Yamaha was awesome and served its purpose filling a big market gap for many years until the VOX came out and pushed it aside which I have used extensively but now the VOX is Joining the Yamaha and going the way of the dinosaurs.
I use Spark 40, Park mini and THR10II. Each have their pros and cons. I can say the same for electric guitars semi hollow vs jazz body vs Strat vs Les Paul or single coil vs P90 vs Humbucker pick up guitars. They all have their pros and cons, but you will own them depending on your mood or type of music or sound you want when you start playing.
If you could only own one? What it would be?
@@MarcoAntonioVega If I could have one portable amp it would be the Spark 40. Guitars it would be Telecaster, the guitar so easy to do repairs to and no complex wiring like a Strat or semi or jazz body guitar.
I love a Roland micro cube GX 😅
Have both. Ended up almost selling the spark after I got the Yamaha because difference in sounds was night and day. I had to keep noodling endlessly with the Spark to get the sound I wanted and still wasn’t fully happy whereas with the Yamaha it was pretty instant and I played more than having to battle to adjust levels on the amp.
I did keep the Spark because it is a better/easier recording device for an iPad.
Found the same with my spark I spend ages pissing about with it, I miss my axe fx
Ive had the old THR 10X for years now and still use it all the time. Yamaha THR is one of the best desktops out there
i would always choose yamaha over anything. however already having one and looking for additional amp with wider range (suitable for home use and small gigs) I believe spark positive grid LIVE along with THR10, and some tc electronics pedals will serve all my needs for a very long time as I'm not a pro. BTW yamaha pacifica 611 is a great asset as well.
Thank you! I feel certain with my purchase now! First things first, ima sell a bit of my gear
I own a THRII 5 and love it. I travel a lot for work and the YAMAHA THR is my constant and most important piece of equipment that I carry. Almost pulled the trigger on the spark but won’t. I am having issues with regular batteries. What batteries do you use?
I don't use batteries, I just have the plugin version.
Panasonic BK eneloop pro precharged, rechargeable batteries and are recommended by Yamaha. This way, you won't be buying new batteries constantly. They come in a pack of 8 which is exactly how many you need. You can find them on Amazon.
@@bettertomorrow2625 thanks
@@stratoalex You're welcome!
@@bettertomorrow2625 I’ve been using EBL batteries for about 7-8 years now. Mostly for XBox controllers but they find their way into all sorts of stuff. The AAs are 2800mAh, and they last years of constant use. A good charger like a LaCrosse is equally important to keep your batteries healthy. I’ve read tons of positives about Eneloops but only used a handful, and the EBL definitely had longer charge life.
Can I get a Santana type of sound (fat smooth tone, lots of sustain) on EITHER of these?
Depends which of his tones you want, he’s used a pretty wide variety of amps from Mesa Boogies to Deluxe Reverbs to Dumbles. You can definitely get a smooth and fat tone out of either.
When you see this I'm surpassed Boss simply didn't release their digital line with all the Sneaky amps enabled. Instead they give 3 levels of marshall style gain and two cleans, bright or fat in character. But having a Marshall followed by two versions of the same circuit in the 5150 and the SLO100 (heavily hot roded Marshall JCM800 circuits) makes them all sound like a somewhat gnarlier player over the version of the previous voice. It's a shame they couldn't incorporate a lot more of the Gt100 features. Put them in and the whole thing opens up a bunch of new doors.
The spark can do all of those things. Hook it to your pc and it works in tandem with the Bias FX 2 software for even more amp sims, also doubles as its own audio interface. And for the price… you really can’t beat the spark.
And they came out with a 140w powered cabinet compatible with the spark products for even more volume for Gigs/jams.
Pair that with the Airstep SPK for pedal control and your home jam session and on the go gig ready.
Only downside I see -
There is no onboard battery for portability like the THR.
you can use Biax FX (or any amp sim) with any amp, or external speaker. Bias Fx isn't integrated into the Spark at all, they are two separate products.
The Spark LIVE that was just released solos this Yamaha THR
The THR sounds so much better, but I can see why some people would like the spark more.
Agreed! I think folks equate “more amp sims and pedals” with “better” I rarely play my spark anymore.
Can you get a foot switch for this? I like being able to switch effects during a jam or song without having to touch my phone
Yes, I have an AIRSTEP for it. They guys there sent me one back in 2020 or so but it has never worked. The instructions said to flash the bios for the THr and I did. Then they told me not to do that so maybe I bricked it? :-)
I like both
Very good , gives you food for thought
Thanks
Can you play bass with the Yamaha ? I need an amp that can do both
They both have bass presets but I tried them.
Actually you can, but it's not the best option. The THR is more on the bright side, the lower frequencies are generally better on the Spark...but, generally speaking, if you play bass, a bass amplifier with a bigger speaker would be recommended.
I own a Spark 40 paper weight. Only place to get it repaired is Clinton, CT. Anyone know where that is? Absolutely no help from Spark.
Useful video Jason. Just checking out your channel. Always wondered what the fuss was about the THRs. This short simplifies it!! Cheers.
Glad it was helpful! I don’t even use my Spark amp anymore, I like the tone of this one better.
For point 5, how do i connect my THR to my audio interface? I dont wanna connect it straight to my PC via USB because i would still want to use my scarlett solo as an interface
You could use the headphone out, and get a 1/8 to 1/4 coupling to hook it up to your interface. Or you could mic it. Ive done both and honestly, over USB sounds really good. Obviously if you mic it you can play around more with the sound via mic type, position, room etc
Is it possible to use either of these as full out monitors connected to a pc? I mean as speakers to just listen to music through it?
Yes. The spark sounds better as a regular speaker though.
Sorry if this seems stupid.. I don’t understand if this is an amp head or a a straight up amp.. does it have a speaker? Do I just plug it in and connect my guitar, and play?
no worries! it is a full guitar amp people call a 'practice amp'. Just plug and play!
I'm a long term patient, and one of the most valuable things I ever learned as a patient, and I think this applies to just about all of life, is never to be afraid to ask what I was pretty sure would be stupid questions. Maybe 2/3 of the time they have been stupid questions, but there's that one out of three when I see that look of fascination in a doctor's eyes.
Really classy, first rate people respect people who ask questions.
Eisenhower used to insist on interviewing all State and Defense Departments potential appointees. He delighted in asking them about what Evan Thomas, in his book, "Ike's Bluff," called "almost absurd situations." If the candidate, however good his credentials, snickered, and said something like, "Oh, Mr President, you and I both know that almost certainly would never happen!" Eisenhower wouldn't have nearly as much interest in hiring him as he would a guy who might not have the paper credentials, but who was fascinated by Eisenhower's idea, thought it over, then gave an intelligent answer.
There's a lesson for life in that kind of thing.
Which one sound better?
I prefer my THR over the Spark. I think it’s more clear while the Spark is meatier and more muddy sounding.
Thr5 or the spark mini, which is more suitable for the type of videos I make ?
The Spark will give you more versatility in sounds and FX. I’m not sure if the THR5 has USB but the Spark mini does.
@@cleverdood Thanks 👍
I have both. Never touch the Yamaha since I got the Spark.
I have a spark mini and 40 myself and it’s so good, Yamaha one just can’t compare with spark
@@andytang2089 yupp I gotta agree. Spark is the king of practice amps!
@@andytang2089 i had the complete opposite experience. Ever since i got the thr I wondered why i was even excited about the spark
same for me. I use the THR more because I like the tone better. That said, the Spark beats it hands down on versatility.
I'm in the market, please help.. can you list the advantages the spark has over the Yamaha
I‘ve had the Spark for 3 years now. It’s past it’s warranty and cuts in and out. It’s very frustrating and unreliable now.
I plan to pick one of these up. I
#8 the spark is alot cheaper?
The THR 10 II here in Canada is $399 and the Spark is $389, but frequently on sale for $349.
And what are the prices of the two? I have a thr10x(the old green model) and it sounds way better. I was playing in a GC and plugged into one out of curiosity. It sounded very synthetic.
I have both. The best combination is running the spark through the auxiliary input on the THR 😊 Best of both worlds...but entirely uneconomical
Positive Grid boxers knockout all competitors in all category they fight: from lightweight (spark go) to heavyweight...
But price tho
Forgot to mention the difference in price. Which is MASSIVE
App scores 2.3 on Apple because it’s constantly cutting out for no reason which makes it pointless so,almost everything here doesn’t count
I replaced my THR with the Spark because the clean sounds on the THR were very poor.
The Yamaha is very basic. But if you look online they are more expensive second hand than a new spark. I have both, when it comes to recording the comparison is night and day. Plus you have a plethora of compatible software, bias etc
It seem like you cant use it as much for learning
definitely doesn't have the stuff the Spark has for learning, but I find Ultimate Guitar.com and others learning sites better than what's built into the Spark.
@@cleverdood oh okay thanks i will check that out
Meh. Yamaha isn’t loud enough in my opinion to use it to jam with when teaching lessons, the speaker is also too weak, it cuts out when a playback and distorted guitar goes through it. Bluetooth connectivity is also better on the Spark and the Spark is also more intuitive and less expensive.
Is this Rob Chappers‘ unknown cousin? 🧐
For #2. The Spark has 4 presets that don't need an app to control. I sold my THR30 in favor of a Spark.
The THR has 5 preset buttons on the top of the amp as well...no app needed to control or change them.
@@cleverdood I know I owned it. But the point you were making is that you need an app with the spark.
@@Smart-Alex you don't need the app for the THR to change reverb/echo/or effect settings. The effect multi-function knobs let you pick phaser/flanger/chorus/tremolo and their intensity with the knob. The echo/verb knob lets you do the same. If you want to change verb/effect/delay pedals with the Spark, you have to use the app.
@@cleverdood There are mod, delay, reverb knobs on the Spark too. I just found the Spark better all-around sounding, and especially better with the app if you want to fiddle. I sold the THR.
@@Smart-Alex Again, if you want to change the TYPE of effect or verb/delay, you have to use the Spark app. Those knobs only control the intensity of the effect. If you had a phaser pedal setup in the Spark chain and wanted a flanger, you'd have to use the app. With the THR you don't need the app to do that. That's the point of #2.
Except almost all those things you can do on a spark as well.. lol.. wtf.. guess those knobs on the top of a spark are for looks
You can't change the effect types on the Spark with the knobs. All that's on the APP which has to constantly be re-paired with the amp. I love my Spark when it works, but I can't always count on that. It went brick last week, but fortunately after many hours of repeated attempted firmware updates, watching endless tutorials and looking for fixes on reddit, attempted factory resets, etc. I finally got Positive Grid to email me a program that brought it back from the dead. With the time and energy I put into just this most recent episode of trying to solve the Spark riddle, I could have bought a new Spark...but for SOME reason, I didn't!
I never tried both of them honestly. What you mentioned two inputs doesn’t make sense because you need 2 outputs in order to go in two inputs in an audio interface to record those wet & dry tracks.
As an Audio Enginneer and a guitar player since my childhood I’m really disappointed about those advices.
At the same time I know that, postive grid are made to practice and easy to use. Its confortable and easy to play. Plug & Play just need to use a phone or just use the footswitch which is made for.
Also I have a PRS 25th anniversary. However i will not use it as an rehearsal guitar. For that any other guitar manufacturer is good for. I also see that you have one in the back. Everything has a reason how and why it should be used. Considering as a rehearsal pratice at home, the positive grid wins.
P.S. Sorry for my English it‘s only my 4th language
When connected over USB it carries the wet and dry signal on inputs 1 and 2 so you can record both to two separate tracks simultaneously.
Positive grid’s model is based on it being a portable amp. That’s why it’s tethered to your phone..
Yeah that's really cool and all but thing is, I don't have a computer (Nobody asked)
Spark is so much better
Also cost twice as much
The Spark is $379 in Canada, the THRii is $429. I bought mine for $349 at a local shop before prices started going nuts.
You can waste hours and hours tweaking and playing different presets. But if you want to actually play, plug your guitar into a simple tube amp and go.
Marshall sounded much better to me
The Spark costs $200 less.
Seven unconvincing reasons….Thanks! Decision made! 😂
You might have mentioned that the THR costs twice as much as the Spark.
@@joemonroe1106 in Canada, the THR is $399 in the Spark is $379.
u dont need a phone to change effects on spark either
The THR let’s you change the effect type and intensity as well as reverb and delay types and intensity from the knobs. You can only change the intensity of the FX on the Spark. If you want to change from chorus to flanger on the Spark, you’d have to use the app. You can do that with the multi-function knobs on the THR.
Did you get educated on that kadenzachar? Or have you figured out some magical hack to change effect types without the app on a connected device?
No base 😤
Awesome why you talk so fast???😂😂😂
Nothing about the sound........
hard pass on the Yamaha. It sounds like a butt.
Is it wrong that I heard Peter Griffin’s voice when I read that? 😸
But the point of using your phone is so you don’t have to get a bunk ass computer application
There’s only a 1300$ difference
Bro made the most obvious paid sponsorship video, please dont go for the thr the spark is clear
Wrong. I bought this with my own loot. Use your brain, Yamaha wouldn’t sponsor a channel with < 5000 subs…
@@cleverdood well ur either paid or u cant set ur mind on smthg because one vid ur recommending the thr and one vid ur recommending the spark
No android or iPhone app😢😮 Yamaha great product but Yamaha is behind with the times just like Fender.....this is 2023 come on...