The typhon class is equipped with all necessary kinds of stations including several repair bays and crew quarters and the equivalent of the Galaxy class 10 forward. The typhon class is also heavily armed as well as armored the builders incorporated turrets into the design to open up the hull even further for even more craft and necessary equipment. it has 2 forward and 2 aft torpedo tubes, a total of 12 high power phaser emitter turrets, and some of the heaviest shielding available for it's time. In books there's hints and rumors (non canon) that a fleet of them are being kept hidden and updated with the latest tech as a last chance measure.
The carrier should be the size, if not slightly larger, of the Excalibur class. Take a look at our carriers today, they are the largest vessels we have. They need to carry all the supplies for said pilots and fighters let alone crew. You would need a ton of energy for heavy shielding and massive replicators for parts. Not to mention transporter bays to beam back ejected pilots. This requires multiple warp cores. Also, fighters don't only need pilots. Each craft would have to have it's own engineers and the quarters to house them. At that size, USS Typhon could also house many, many fighters as well as supplies for the fleet itself. It would take on the role of a 'mother ship' protected by it's *hundreds* of fighters, whilst 'father ships/capital ships' like the Excalibur, absorb and dish out as much as they can. In addition to all that, you could also be a warp capable dry dock (that has the power and room) for defiant class ships with enough medical bays and staff for your crew and pilot complement, as well as a large portion of the fleets crew compliment. If smaller ships in the fleet meet their demise, they could aim their escape pods at the USS Typhon's massive hangar bays. I know you've worked out the scale, but it is way, way to small in my mind. When I think of carrier, I think of massive.
Lets not forget, the scale of the ship has already been set and you guys are right on. As i remember, in the first cinematic, Typhon was ferried in by Enterprise E. Wonderful game!!
OK guys...both Samuel and myself both thought it was the Typhoon class not the Typhon class, that why we mispronounce it through the episode. Samuel had done up the renders and we just jumped into the Mission Briefing. If it had been a fully research regular episode that would have been caught. Sorry for the confusion!!
While I agree, there´s no way this isn´t TAC focused rather than SCI focused like the Jupiter was. I´d be great if they made this into a regular C-store ship and added some new fed fighters as both combat pets and shuttlecraft.
i highly doubt Activision or perfectworld would allow this ship to be brought into the game wich is a shame i would also love to fly a Valkyrie class fighters
You keep bringing up the registry numbers and debating about their use. I remember from Stats class we were talking about registry numbers on tanks and using a statistical trick to figure out how many tanks the enemy had based on the registry numbers visible on the field one is able to estimate total ship strength. I think if I remember correctly the U.S. saw how effective this was in troop resource management that they started using registry numbers that had nothing to do with total number of units produced. basically jumping the numbers up higher than they should be to give the illusion of having more tanks or more ships than were actually existing thus causing enemy generals to hold off offensives due to thinking they did not have enough equipment or troops to win. not sure if this could be a reason for the registry numbers seemingly jumping up or down at random.
Question to commander Cockings. You described the meticulous process of how you worked out the size of Typhoon class carrier (good work, by the way). One of the steps was determining the size of the Valkyrie class fighter. You said that the true size of this fighter differs from all other sources, but you did not say the exact length. So - how big Valkyrie class fighter really is?
This is a ship I'd love to see Eaglemoss tackle (and definitely the fighters, as well). A few things: I think all the "fortress mode" concept was dumped during development. I don't recall the ship ever pulling modules in or anyone even referencing it. There are two missions where you man a turret instead of piloting a fighter, but I don't think the model did anything special or transformy. Also, considering it gets deployed to its theater of operations by the Enterprise, I always took that as a sign that it wasn't meant to travel fast or far (or either). It is more ship than station, and it does travel from place to place in the game, but I took that to be on a mostly local scale (because otherwise, why would it need another ship to deploy it).
Star Trek Invasion was in development for NUON DVD players but unfortunately it was canned since the NUON itself didn't take off. Not heard of any code surviving but it would have played like the PS1 build with much improved graphics.
Having played Invasion and watched the reimagined BSG, the Typhon has always felt like Starfleet's Battlestar to me - right down to the Greek name. I mean, aside from the looks *and* the phaser turrets, Valkyries instead of Vipers, Runabouts instead of Raptors.
Based on doing this one I think it would be awesome if you did the Jupiter class carrier from STO next! Based on the design here it seems the prefect one to contrast and compare.
It doesn't look like it really belongs in the Federation fleet. But at the same time, that's part of what makes it work. It's a really cool design that adds something new to play with.
The registry number would logically follow the number of ships built but I will agree that number we see on Star Trek do not appear to follow this pattern properly. Each ship having its own number means that it can not be simply based on a design number because that would mean all ship built to a given design would have the same number and they clearly do not. It becomes clear this is simply a spot the writers have chosen to not try for any sort of consistency and maybe they just wish us to get the idea that Star Fleet has a lot of ships. There is a explanation for the high Registry numbers even if it does not explain why so many ships seem to have low numbers with out indication they are reusing the number (such as 1701-A -B -C -D) after high number ships have appeared. You might note that even shuttle get the registry numbers with out any thing to separate their number out from the Capital ships. This means that Star Fleet might have a large number of Shuttle but very few Capital ships. Modern Navies follow the practice of categorizing each type of ship and then giving it a number,( SSN is a Submarine nuclear Fast Attack. SSBN is a Submarine Nuclear Ballistic Missile, CVN is Carrier Aircraft Nuclear, CGN Cruiser Guided missile Nuclear and so forth.)which would have worked in Star Trek except that both Gene Roddenberry and Matt Jeffries came from the Army Air corp which meant they numbered them the way planes get numbered which is based on the country (N for USA) and the Radio call sign. www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/aircraft_nnumber_history/
This is a very interesting vessel, I do enjoy my Federation Jupiter-Class Carrier in Star Trek Online so I welcome other carrier designs. Perhaps we will see the Typhon-Class in STO someday.
Wow, that size chart is nuts. I thought for sure it was almost sovergn size, super cool to hear you explain how you got it (using the bsg guy is brilliant). The side profile does help with the sizing, that cutscene still is really impressive for the time.
I remember playing a Star Trek game on PS2. about this ship but at the time it wasn't warp capable. Worf was in charge and the Enterprise E carried the Typhoon on her belly. It was a
In the cutszene at the beginning of the game the captain talks about the ship being heavily equipped with wwepons as well, talking cannons and stuff. :)
I don't know why it took him 2 hours to figure out the scale, if you watch the intro of the game, the Sovereign class carries it under before deploying it, which seems odd, since it has its own warp engines, but perhaps it has a lower speed.
This is super cool... I never played the Playstation game, so was completely unfamiliar with this until pictures started showing up on the Trekyards Facebook awhile back. The question I have is this- how exactly do the warp engines work? The middle of the ship completely blocks the engines, as far as I can tell. Correct me if I'm wrong but from the front the engines can't be seen at all. I can envision something like the Delta Flyer where they extend outward for warp travel, and hug close to the ship for battle. I know different ships have broken the rules of starship design in various ways... but that's a bit extreme
Been holding out for this one for ages! I know you guys did fighters recently, but is there any hope in the specific fightercraft getting their own episodes?
For fanon fighters... I always liked Phoenix class by ClamitySI, and the valkyrie by auctor lucan For fanon combat runabouts... always liked Warhammer by Euderion For fanon gub boats or gun ships... both the Oslo class by Ryan Dening and Xenon class by unknown come to mind.
one thing i love about this ship is how many fighters you can field in STO, you get the two hangers, but with the mastery trait it allows for an additional 6 squads resulting in 36 fighters in space. i went into an elite TFO with it and was holding my own with just the fighters. also the fortress mode firing off all 8 phaser turret cannons is a beautiful sight to see.
@@forzafan92 just wish i had the zen to buy the bundle but i haven't even been playing for a full year yet so it's going to take along time to save up the zen
I think Voyagers Nacelles can be cranked into place manually and left up if they have to be. But there is some suggestion the internal redirect the plasma into the impulse engines - if they do they if the'd be stuck with thrusters and warp only or thrusters and impluse only. But it's a matter of detail to argue over I guess. Also perhaps that carrier has baffled engines which is why they can't be seen usually so it can sneak in then swarm it's target with fighters and slink off again out of weapons range of a counter strike. Also are Impulse engines not a major was of getting torpedo lock ? There is also a suggestion that there is a sublight function possible in some warp engines and such ships don't have impulse engines at all - but that they are terrible at rapid movement as a result. (example being something like some Vulcan ships).
1) Would love to see a version that's closer to the original sketch! Someone get on that. 2) Am I crazy or would it look even more bad-ass flipped upside-down? 3) The reduction in length in the "fortress" mode is bananas. As cool as it LOOKS for the whole ship to compress like that, wouldn't it have been more practical to just have sizable blast doors that cover that gap in the middle?
Was going to say this is too small to house sufficient fighters, however it only carries 26 of them according to the intro so i guess it could work. It's the slightly smaller size than a Nimitz carrier which can hold around 60, however 26 fighters is pretty small.
I'm pretty sure in Star Trek : Invasion itself the fighter launch bays were on the side of the ship... Also, it didn't have phaser strips, but actually had turrets (there were a couple of missions where you took control of one of the turrets) On a final note, in the cutscene at the start of the game, you also see the Enterprise E dropping off the Typhon on location - and the Typhon is almost the same length as the Sovereign class Enterprise as well.
Information to this video, in the game it has a video of a sovereign class ship delivering the ship to the battlefield has commander worf take charge and goes into action
I would have loved to have seen this on tv in the Dominion War. A combat task force with a Typhoon class with Akira, Defiant or Sabre classes as escorts. Now thats alot of firepower not a force to mess with.
See I never thought the Typhon was that huge - actually rewatching the intro cinematic and seeing it compared to the E-E, I kinda feel your chart may have it a little oversizwd! :D
If the entire center of the craft is the hanger, it would not be that difficult to imagine all the various extensions just collapsing back into that space. And as the fighters etc would then be in storage mode they would not need that much space.
It would deploy its fighters well away from action then recovery would be at a different place from deployment of fighters. It would work like a carrier group. This ships a platform for fueling repairs ,launch ,recovery.
Nice job detailing this and determining its scale! I know that there might be some disappointment about its scale, but I'm a fan of more reasonably scaled ships. Plus, should remember that in a time of war, the ability to make truly colossal ships would be rather limited, plus the warp technology for a system to get it around about as quickly as other ships. I'm thinking that very large ships larger than the Galaxy class are implied to exist, but that they are non military and slow.
I am liking this ship! It's a good concept and a neat design! Thank you for doing this one! I thought it might have appeared in TNG or DS9, now i'm gonna look it up! ;) And share the link on my wall!
I see these being carried by Sovereign-class vessels into a warzone to be dropped off in a Blitz-Krieg-style offensive. While it is capable of operating independently, it is the only reason why I could see it docking the USS Enterprise-E.
Here's a thought for the Captain and Commander; do you that this class if ship would be retrofitted so that it could be a mining ship? When I first saw this I thought; stick a shuttlecock on the front and paint it red... USS Red Dwarf NCC 1988. But in all seriousness, could this also be used as a mining vessel?
So pleased to see this, as I loved Star Trek: Invasion on the ol' PS1! Even more happy that Captain Foley explained away one of my major bugbears with the design (being the warp nacelles not being visible from one another) - shame about the bussards being hidden from the front view though. Also just found this longplay of ST:Invasion. ua-cam.com/video/tVKeMITH7gg/v-deo.html The main introduction and some facts about the ship are explained within the first three minutes.
I'm actually friends with the guy who made the Valkyrie class. I wasn't very happy when he used the name of one of my designs, cause now I have to assume that my Valkyrie will be destroyed at one point, and replaced with his. And the Valkyrie is one of my earliest designs (and one of my designs most endeared to me, speaking of which, I think she is due for a redesign)! I just like his design too much for me to not include her in-universe!
I always thought that the Enterprise was giving the Typhoon a speed boost… yes the Typhoon could get to warp but if they needed to be in place fast they would need a tow ship to get to the hot zone faster…
I think you got it too small, did you talk to the designer? It has twice the volume of the Intrepid, so you have the hangar bays right, but what about the pilot and maintenance crew quarters for the fighters?
hmm i'd say the huge warp core was needed to not only power the ship but refuel the fighters, possibly even have the power have a larger fabrication facility on board to replicate fighter parts and replace lost craft... and from what I remember of the game, during fortress mode it shows the lack of phaser strips was due to the fact the ship had retractable pulse phaser cannons that extend out of the hull, which are then manned by an officer (I think you man one of the cannons while fighting a borg cube) if you have a dozen such cannon turrets behind panels in the hull... each manned and firing independently within its own arc, the punch it would have...eeeeesh no wonder its called fortress mode, and makes the need for a huge warp core all the more vital.
I played this game on PlayStation 1 war was the captain of the ship which had some voice dialing on it there's also kept in the card was transferred to give command of this carrier is called a typhoon class carrier was the Prototype it was an emergency so work was given command and the Heart the character you played was the Federation pilot and you Rose in rank and you got better since the first ship you got was called the valkyrie Clash and was told the story about the Valkyries being a female warriors that escorted The Souls of the Dead to Valhalla and when North mythology it was a good game I like that cause I like Space Fighter games I love Space Fighter Nick 1 things I regret about being only console gamer because all the good Space Fighter games most of them are on PC like Star Citizen Elite dangerous I'm glad Star Trek Online finally come to a Playstation 4 cuz I ain't got to produce and Star Trek game in years Los get started tracking them are played with a PlayStation 2 it was a Star Trek Legacy you're starting something with a nail and now I know they had this one game that was on 360 I'd only played a little better and it only played a little bit of it I thought about rear-ended by not trying to play it again cuz I still got my 360 I forget what it's called I'll play with you the way you start out with archer writing like I thought the ship's handle really slowly and it was almost like he would give orders but it just the ship had a little sluggish and I just kept playing that game with the ship almost sounded like a father it was a small it's horrible small version is shipping and handling for my father
While the overall size might be correct, given that it only holds 28 fighters, the fan rendering of the deck layout was done by somebody who has no clue of the infrastructure requirements for a 'carrier' class vessel, e.g. servicing, ordinance handling, mission prep, launch - recovery management. At the minimum, there should be space allocated for three 'double' decks in the central third of the hull for all the above mention tasks.
Not all Starfleet officers are pilots, presumably. Can you imagine being an engineer and being told, "OK, get in the fighter." Plus a fighter is more likely to be shot down in a battle, rather than ignored like an escape pod.
Speaking of which, I hope in some iteration of Star Trek we get to see something like a flight crew (think Chief Tyrol of BSG). The shuttlebay has always seemed too clean to me.
trekky0623 in the books of the new Star Trek it's said the floors are somehow "Hydro static" it somehow stops dirt from accumulating, just don't ask me where it gose
Yeah... No! Looks like they mothballed a naff Husnock ship or a squashed Pralor vessel lol! And the bussard collectors are too close! Where's the deflector? Also if Star Fleet were to build these they would need Transporters to pick up the free floating evacuation team members! Captain made me laugh though with his disappointment with the size of it lol!
Calamity Si has made really great model I'm surprised you didn't use it as a reference source. Your not using the resources that are right in front of you. .
I see ships like this ans want to put the engines on struts in the corners to get line of sight. That would give 4 different "Fields" between the engines.
And now coming to Star Trek Online apparently.
The typhon class is equipped with all necessary kinds of stations including several repair bays and crew quarters and the equivalent of the Galaxy class 10 forward. The typhon class is also heavily armed as well as armored the builders incorporated turrets into the design to open up the hull even further for even more craft and necessary equipment. it has 2 forward and 2 aft torpedo tubes, a total of 12 high power phaser emitter turrets, and some of the heaviest shielding available for it's time. In books there's hints and rumors (non canon) that a fleet of them are being kept hidden and updated with the latest tech as a last chance measure.
The carrier should be the size, if not slightly larger, of the Excalibur class. Take a look at our carriers today, they are the largest vessels we have. They need to carry all the supplies for said pilots and fighters let alone crew. You would need a ton of energy for heavy shielding and massive replicators for parts. Not to mention transporter bays to beam back ejected pilots. This requires multiple warp cores. Also, fighters don't only need pilots. Each craft would have to have it's own engineers and the quarters to house them. At that size, USS Typhon could also house many, many fighters as well as supplies for the fleet itself. It would take on the role of a 'mother ship' protected by it's *hundreds* of fighters, whilst 'father ships/capital ships' like the Excalibur, absorb and dish out as much as they can. In addition to all that, you could also be a warp capable dry dock (that has the power and room) for defiant class ships with enough medical bays and staff for your crew and pilot complement, as well as a large portion of the fleets crew compliment. If smaller ships in the fleet meet their demise, they could aim their escape pods at the USS Typhon's massive hangar bays. I know you've worked out the scale, but it is way, way to small in my mind. When I think of carrier, I think of massive.
Lets not forget, the scale of the ship has already been set and you guys are right on. As i remember, in the first cinematic, Typhon was ferried in by Enterprise E. Wonderful game!!
OK guys...both Samuel and myself both thought it was the Typhoon class not the Typhon class, that why we mispronounce it through the episode. Samuel had done up the renders and we just jumped into the Mission Briefing. If it had been a fully research regular episode that would have been caught. Sorry for the confusion!!
Trekyards did not have torpedo turrets thought that was pretty cool
Trekyards I thought it was Typhoon as well.
No worries guys, it's not like you called by a complete different name 🖖😊
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I think I would've liked this in STO rather than the current Jupiter class carrier.
Same
While I agree, there´s no way this isn´t TAC focused rather than SCI focused like the Jupiter was. I´d be great if they made this into a regular C-store ship and added some new fed fighters as both combat pets and shuttlecraft.
Most regular carriers are sci focused, the Jupiter was simply known as "carrier" in admiralty.
i highly doubt Activision or perfectworld would allow this ship to be brought into the game wich is a shame i would also love to fly a Valkyrie class fighters
Agfuckingreed
I remember this ship very well. Loved the game and the ships design. Was a glorious thing indeed.
If you enjoyed Invasion, the same studio had previously done the Colony Wars trilogy of games. Really worth checking out.
You keep bringing up the registry numbers and debating about their use. I remember from Stats class we were talking about registry numbers on tanks and using a statistical trick to figure out how many tanks the enemy had based on the registry numbers visible on the field one is able to estimate total ship strength. I think if I remember correctly the U.S. saw how effective this was in troop resource management that they started using registry numbers that had nothing to do with total number of units produced. basically jumping the numbers up higher than they should be to give the illusion of having more tanks or more ships than were actually existing thus causing enemy generals to hold off offensives due to thinking they did not have enough equipment or troops to win. not sure if this could be a reason for the registry numbers seemingly jumping up or down at random.
The answer for "What if the Battlestar Galactica and the Enterprise D had a baby ?"
Been there done that it is the CT’s midway
Sorry tcs
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Another series that died when Mark Hammel was killed off.
Question to commander Cockings. You described the meticulous process of how you worked out the size of Typhoon class carrier (good work, by the way). One of the steps was determining the size of the Valkyrie class fighter. You said that the true size of this fighter differs from all other sources, but you did not say the exact length. So - how big Valkyrie class fighter really is?
This is now one of my favorite Federation ships. It's the only carrier I've seen so far!
This is a ship I'd love to see Eaglemoss tackle (and definitely the fighters, as well).
A few things: I think all the "fortress mode" concept was dumped during development. I don't recall the ship ever pulling modules in or anyone even referencing it. There are two missions where you man a turret instead of piloting a fighter, but I don't think the model did anything special or transformy.
Also, considering it gets deployed to its theater of operations by the Enterprise, I always took that as a sign that it wasn't meant to travel fast or far (or either). It is more ship than station, and it does travel from place to place in the game, but I took that to be on a mostly local scale (because otherwise, why would it need another ship to deploy it).
Star Trek Invasion was in development for NUON DVD players but unfortunately it was canned since the NUON itself didn't take off. Not heard of any code surviving but it would have played like the PS1 build with much improved graphics.
Having played Invasion and watched the reimagined BSG, the Typhon has always felt like Starfleet's Battlestar to me - right down to the Greek name.
I mean, aside from the looks *and* the phaser turrets, Valkyries instead of Vipers, Runabouts instead of Raptors.
Based on doing this one I think it would be awesome if you did the Jupiter class carrier from STO next! Based on the design here it seems the prefect one to contrast and compare.
Yeah, would love to hear what they think of that one. Those black window domes are really an interesting design.
It doesn't look like it really belongs in the Federation fleet. But at the same time, that's part of what makes it work. It's a really cool design that adds something new to play with.
The registry number would logically follow the number of ships built but I will agree that number we see on Star Trek do not appear to follow this pattern properly. Each ship having its own number means that it can not be simply based on a design number because that would mean all ship built to a given design would have the same number and they clearly do not. It becomes clear this is simply a spot the writers have chosen to not try for any sort of consistency and maybe they just wish us to get the idea that Star Fleet has a lot of ships. There is a explanation for the high Registry numbers even if it does not explain why so many ships seem to have low numbers with out indication they are reusing the number (such as 1701-A -B -C -D) after high number ships have appeared. You might note that even shuttle get the registry numbers with out any thing to separate their number out from the Capital ships. This means that Star Fleet might have a large number of Shuttle but very few Capital ships. Modern Navies follow the practice of categorizing each type of ship and then giving it a number,( SSN is a Submarine nuclear Fast Attack. SSBN is a Submarine Nuclear Ballistic Missile, CVN is Carrier Aircraft Nuclear, CGN Cruiser Guided missile Nuclear and so forth.)which would have worked in Star Trek except that both Gene Roddenberry and Matt Jeffries came from the Army Air corp which meant they numbered them the way planes get numbered which is based on the country (N for USA) and the Radio call sign. www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/aircraft_nnumber_history/
This is a very interesting vessel, I do enjoy my Federation Jupiter-Class Carrier in Star Trek Online so I welcome other carrier designs. Perhaps we will see the Typhon-Class in STO someday.
Wow, that size chart is nuts. I thought for sure it was almost sovergn size, super cool to hear you explain how you got it (using the bsg guy is brilliant). The side profile does help with the sizing, that cutscene still is really impressive for the time.
Great game, cool ship. Really like it in the Armada 3 mod!
I thought it would be larger but this is very believable. thanks guys
if i remember correctly in the game it came out of warp with an sovereign class ship attached to its under side
I remember playing a Star Trek game on PS2. about this ship but at the time it wasn't warp capable. Worf was in charge and the Enterprise E carried the Typhoon on her belly. It was a
In the cutszene at the beginning of the game the captain talks about the ship being heavily equipped with wwepons as well, talking cannons and stuff. :)
There would be a bridge to pilot the ship, CIC (Combat Information Center) for tactical decisions, launch & recovery of fighters.
I liked how you found out the size of the Typhon Class, but I would like to know the size of the Valkyrie Class starfighter.
I don't know why it took him 2 hours to figure out the scale, if you watch the intro of the game, the Sovereign class carries it under before deploying it, which seems odd, since it has its own warp engines, but perhaps it has a lower speed.
After two years from asking... finally a carrier!
This is a very attractive vessel. suitable as a long range carrier.
Attractive?! ??? To each their own I guess. 🤷♂️
This is super cool... I never played the Playstation game, so was completely unfamiliar with this until pictures started showing up on the Trekyards Facebook awhile back. The question I have is this- how exactly do the warp engines work? The middle of the ship completely blocks the engines, as far as I can tell. Correct me if I'm wrong but from the front the engines can't be seen at all. I can envision something like the Delta Flyer where they extend outward for warp travel, and hug close to the ship for battle. I know different ships have broken the rules of starship design in various ways... but that's a bit extreme
Been holding out for this one for ages! I know you guys did fighters recently, but is there any hope in the specific fightercraft getting their own episodes?
Of course
For fanon fighters... I always liked Phoenix class by ClamitySI, and the
valkyrie by auctor lucan
For fanon combat runabouts... always liked Warhammer by Euderion
For fanon gub boats or gun ships... both the Oslo class by Ryan Dening and Xenon class by unknown come to mind.
one thing i love about this ship is how many fighters you can field in STO, you get the two hangers, but with the mastery trait it allows for an additional 6 squads resulting in 36 fighters in space. i went into an elite TFO with it and was holding my own with just the fighters. also the fortress mode firing off all 8 phaser turret cannons is a beautiful sight to see.
guess I'm not the only one from STO who cam to watch trekyard look at the new ships to the game
@@shogunoni7102 right, but i bought the bundle and wanted to see what they thought too
@@forzafan92 just wish i had the zen to buy the bundle but i haven't even been playing for a full year yet so it's going to take along time to save up the zen
@@shogunoni7102 well the bundle will go away soon, but the ships will always be there, at 3000 zen a piece, 30 dollars each
great video as always....but where was that captains yacht captain Foley referred to.....
I think Voyagers Nacelles can be cranked into place manually and left up if they have to be. But there is some suggestion the internal redirect the plasma into the impulse engines - if they do they if the'd be stuck with thrusters and warp only or thrusters and impluse only.
But it's a matter of detail to argue over I guess.
Also perhaps that carrier has baffled engines which is why they can't be seen usually so it can sneak in then swarm it's target with fighters and slink off again out of weapons range of a counter strike.
Also are Impulse engines not a major was of getting torpedo lock ?
There is also a suggestion that there is a sublight function possible in some warp engines and such ships don't have impulse engines at all - but that they are terrible at rapid movement as a result. (example being something like some Vulcan ships).
1) Would love to see a version that's closer to the original sketch! Someone get on that.
2) Am I crazy or would it look even more bad-ass flipped upside-down?
3) The reduction in length in the "fortress" mode is bananas. As cool as it LOOKS for the whole ship to compress like that, wouldn't it have been more practical to just have sizable blast doors that cover that gap in the middle?
It's the Galactica of Star Trek :D
Was going to say this is too small to house sufficient fighters, however it only carries 26 of them according to the intro so i guess it could work. It's the slightly smaller size than a Nimitz carrier which can hold around 60, however 26 fighters is pretty small.
I also remember playing this on my PS when it came out.
Those concept sketches look like the Kushan Heavy Cruiser from Homeworld.
Looks more like an escort, or light carrier. Nebula or Galaxy might actually be capable of being a "full" carrier. Good work, Cmdr.
I'm Gorn to go out on a limb here and say that this looks like what I envision a Gorn ship to look like perhaps with fed colors! Hsssisssiissiisss! :)
We have so many large alien ships in STO... But the biggest fed ship is the Jupiter. This would fix that. It's such a sexy ship.
oh man there's no telling how many hours I spent on this game. awesome review!
Now that it's in STO, the devs apparently agree with your assessment on the Typhon's size
I'm pretty sure in Star Trek : Invasion itself the fighter launch bays were on the side of the ship...
Also, it didn't have phaser strips, but actually had turrets (there were a couple of missions where you took control of one of the turrets)
On a final note, in the cutscene at the start of the game, you also see the Enterprise E dropping off the Typhon on location - and the Typhon is almost the same length as the Sovereign class Enterprise as well.
good one guys..👍
Information to this video, in the game it has a video of a sovereign class ship delivering the ship to the battlefield has commander worf take charge and goes into action
First thing that came to mind looking at it: A spaceflight-capable hippo.
I would have loved to have seen this on tv in the Dominion War. A combat task force with a Typhoon class with Akira, Defiant or Sabre classes as escorts. Now thats alot of firepower not a force to mess with.
Played this when it came out. Not a bad little game
Sweet! A flying oven mitt!
See I never thought the Typhon was that huge - actually rewatching the intro cinematic and seeing it compared to the E-E, I kinda feel your chart may have it a little oversizwd! :D
Well I say that, since its got doors and needs to be scaled to the fighters, its more the intro cinematic has it a little undersized.
20:52 you say "there's no escape pods" but you can clearly see dark grey triangular ones around the centre.
If the entire center of the craft is the hanger, it would not be that difficult to imagine all the various extensions just collapsing back into that space. And as the fighters etc would then be in storage mode they would not need that much space.
It would deploy its fighters well away from action then recovery would be at a different place from deployment of fighters. It would work like a carrier group. This ships a platform for fueling repairs ,launch ,recovery.
_Man_ why did you guys ever get rid of this _awesome_ intro!? Bring it back for Christmas! 😄
Nice job detailing this and determining its scale! I know that there might be some disappointment about its scale, but I'm a fan of more reasonably scaled ships. Plus, should remember that in a time of war, the ability to make truly colossal ships would be rather limited, plus the warp technology for a system to get it around about as quickly as other ships. I'm thinking that very large ships larger than the Galaxy class are implied to exist, but that they are non military and slow.
It is now in the game Star Trek Online, and it has a Death Blossom attack.
I am liking this ship! It's a good concept and a neat design! Thank you for doing this one! I thought it might have appeared in TNG or DS9, now i'm gonna look it up! ;) And share the link on my wall!
I see these being carried by Sovereign-class vessels into a warzone to be dropped off in a Blitz-Krieg-style offensive. While it is capable of operating independently, it is the only reason why I could see it docking the USS Enterprise-E.
Here's a thought for the Captain and Commander; do you that this class if ship would be retrofitted so that it could be a mining ship? When I first saw this I thought; stick a shuttlecock on the front and paint it red... USS Red Dwarf NCC 1988.
But in all seriousness, could this also be used as a mining vessel?
They can launch fighters out of the side as there are launch tubes when not in fortress mode
So pleased to see this, as I loved Star Trek: Invasion on the ol' PS1! Even more happy that Captain Foley explained away one of my major bugbears with the design (being the warp nacelles not being visible from one another) - shame about the bussards being hidden from the front view though.
Also just found this longplay of ST:Invasion. ua-cam.com/video/tVKeMITH7gg/v-deo.html The main introduction and some facts about the ship are explained within the first three minutes.
I seen somewhere that it stored 2 defiant class ships as well. Cant remember where though.
I'm actually friends with the guy who made the Valkyrie class. I wasn't very happy when he used the name of one of my designs, cause now I have to assume that my Valkyrie will be destroyed at one point, and replaced with his. And the Valkyrie is one of my earliest designs (and one of my designs most endeared to me, speaking of which, I think she is due for a redesign)!
I just like his design too much for me to not include her in-universe!
I always thought that the Enterprise was giving the Typhoon a speed boost… yes the Typhoon could get to warp but if they needed to be in place fast they would need a tow ship to get to the hot zone faster…
the 1 in sto has the hangers on the side and yes thay just added the ship to startrek online
Samuel I agree with you it does work its just a box lol but it was kool
The Constellation-class of starship could all so have been used as a Fighter carrier.
I think you got it too small, did you talk to the designer? It has twice the volume of the Intrepid, so you have the hangar bays right, but what about the pilot and maintenance crew quarters for the fighters?
So based on the Length you said, what would you say the other dimension were?
Maybe if we think of it more like an escort carrier the size of the ship may make more sense.
hmm i'd say the huge warp core was needed to not only power the ship but refuel the fighters, possibly even have the power have a larger fabrication facility on board to replicate fighter parts and replace lost craft... and from what I remember of the game, during fortress mode it shows the lack of phaser strips was due to the fact the ship had retractable pulse phaser cannons that extend out of the hull, which are then manned by an officer (I think you man one of the cannons while fighting a borg cube) if you have a dozen such cannon turrets behind panels in the hull... each manned and firing independently within its own arc, the punch it would have...eeeeesh no wonder its called fortress mode, and makes the need for a huge warp core all the more vital.
It looks like BSG and Star Trek had a romance ;)
they did and they called it midway
I played this game on PlayStation 1 war was the captain of the ship which had some voice dialing on it there's also kept in the card was transferred to give command of this carrier is called a typhoon class carrier was the Prototype it was an emergency so work was given command and the Heart the character you played was the Federation pilot and you Rose in rank and you got better since the first ship you got was called the valkyrie Clash and was told the story about the Valkyries being a female warriors that escorted The Souls of the Dead to Valhalla and when North mythology it was a good game I like that cause I like Space Fighter games I love Space Fighter Nick 1 things I regret about being only console gamer because all the good Space Fighter games most of them are on PC like Star Citizen Elite dangerous I'm glad Star Trek Online finally come to a Playstation 4 cuz I ain't got to produce and Star Trek game in years Los get started tracking them are played with a PlayStation 2 it was a Star Trek Legacy you're starting something with a nail and now I know they had this one game that was on 360 I'd only played a little better and it only played a little bit of it I thought about rear-ended by not trying to play it again cuz I still got my 360 I forget what it's called I'll play with you the way you start out with archer writing like I thought the ship's handle really slowly and it was almost like he would give orders but it just the ship had a little sluggish and I just kept playing that game with the ship almost sounded like a father it was a small it's horrible small version is shipping and handling for my father
While the overall size might be correct, given that it only holds 28 fighters, the fan rendering of the deck layout was done by somebody who has no clue of the infrastructure requirements for a 'carrier' class vessel, e.g. servicing, ordinance handling, mission prep, launch - recovery management.
At the minimum, there should be space allocated for three 'double' decks in the central third of the hull for all the above mention tasks.
Why would the Typhoon need escape pods? It has a very large number of fighters and I would assume shuttle craft
Not all Starfleet officers are pilots, presumably. Can you imagine being an engineer and being told, "OK, get in the fighter." Plus a fighter is more likely to be shot down in a battle, rather than ignored like an escape pod.
For every fighter you need an engineer and support crew.
Speaking of which, I hope in some iteration of Star Trek we get to see something like a flight crew (think Chief Tyrol of BSG). The shuttlebay has always seemed too clean to me.
trekky0623 in the books of the new Star Trek it's said the floors are somehow "Hydro static" it somehow stops dirt from accumulating, just don't ask me where it gose
Dawn Spooner same reason why aircraft carriers have life rafts.
So, how does one go about finding the Lightwave mesh for this ship?
Just out of curiosity, why didn't you guys discuss and show the fighters that the carrier launches. Seems an odd oversight...
How many fighters? How many fighters make a squadron?
what i can remember of the game worf was the captain.
in the game, the Typhon was carried in on the belly of the Enterprise.
fingers crossed the new xbox backcompatability works for this game *I have the original xbox gam
I ask you this Captain Foley, what if the doors on the regular Cruisers fail huh? Didn’t think about that did you?
just imagine this ship in star trek online game
I Played Star Trek Invasion on My PS1 I loved The Typhon The First Time I Saw it
The scale needs to be way larger to accommodate fighter, auxiliary, support craft, equipment and cargo. Then the crew and specialized departments.
I like it, should have called it the USS Armadillo.
Everyone who's called themselves building this ship and 'wrecking' the ship, by 'sticking' two additional warp nacelles on it!
Yeah... No! Looks like they mothballed a naff Husnock ship or a squashed Pralor vessel lol! And the bussard collectors are too close! Where's the deflector? Also if Star Fleet were to build these they would need Transporters to pick up the free floating evacuation team members! Captain made me laugh though with his disappointment with the size of it lol!
Calamity Si has made really great model I'm surprised you didn't use it as a reference source. Your not using the resources that are right in front of you. .
The Typhon might appear small, but she's really capacious!
And the Valkyrie fan-made supercarrier with SIX nacelles is one gorgeous behemoth, too.
I have seen that one it's pretty cool.
how many fighters did it carry again
its literally Battlestar Galactica but Starfleet. look at its shape, even the warp nacelles look like the Galactica's thrusters.
I wish this was cannon on the shows the federation could have really used a ship like the typhoon during the dominion war the game was kool
It's not Typhoon Class. Typhoon is spelled with two Os. It's Typhon, named after the mythical father of all monsters.
I see ships like this ans want to put the engines on struts in the corners to get line of sight. That would give 4 different "Fields" between the engines.
on thing if shields are in synch couldnt potentially shuttlles and larger ships dock potentially with shields up?
you guys should do the white star from Babylon5 and the Andromeda from the show