@@Aliens1337 Its cos unlike dota league punishes micro mistakes much more than macro mistakes. That's why you have macro idiots at pro scenes everywhere. They got there by being macro idiots. League is about micro.
I was lightheaded for a few hours during the entirity of this series due to how intense it was. If a fan feels this way I can't imagine how it must feel for them to represent their entire country while the whole world is watching them. Really makes you appreciate your team even more.
Hey lil bro I know the game is intense but you need know that this ain’t Olympics or World Cup. They only represent their region and not country, and you need to know only a small portion of the world, mostly young people watches league.
@@jasonou2123 By the way you speak I know you spent most of your daily life revolving around caedrel and his streams so I just want you to know that the world is big and is full of different cultures that you might not even have an idea that going pro in league is a legit career move in the east.
Every southkorean knows faker. League is like a notional sport there. The football team even honored deft worlds win with a poster at the footbal worldcup. Esport actually has respect there and doesnt get trashed on for 'making my kid agressive'.
@@JackAntony1 that’s not what it get trashed on for. It’s that most American males that play r fucking freaks, including myself😭. B/c the ppl who play r weird it’s not popular here. If u notice faker is like a chill motherfucker he’s not strange
At 44:30 into the fight, I was disappointed that nobody seemed to notice the amazing moves pulled off by 369. He successfully prevented Faker and Zeus from entering the fight by using Everfrost, and then used his ultimate move to not only push them away but also to knock Kindred back towards his team. He even tricked Kindred into wasting his up time with a stopwatch. In my opinion, these were MVP plays by 369, but unfortunately, people are only talking about Kanavi and Knight. It's a pity that 369 isn't getting the recognition he deserves.
Plently of times both team have micro actions that not a lot of people have seen. Similar things have happend in the teamfights that won T1's games. These 10 players are the best of the best.
LCK and LPL really is the Gods of League. No one played Bad, they were really in Sync. Micro and Macro gameplays are awesome. No messy plays. Trades were always ready
T1 draft was quite bad in the games they lost. Why do they keep forcing Nautilus mid over and over again? If it doesnt work for the 2nd time, why even risk it for the 3rd time? Unless they have an IQ of 20 then i can understand that but otherwise wtf?
@@alexyou3233 Just because you pick a control mage, doesnt mean you need to win midlane. Are you silver or below? picking Ahri, Lissandra, and Annie is centered around 5v5. Its not about winning your lane. Just a dumb silver elo who doesnt know a thing about league, what did i even expect most youtube trolls are gold below who thinks they understand the game so much lol bye
@@jaycool2502 well jdg also lost ban/picks in certain matches because they wasn't able to establish proper tier lists for champs. They gave jinx with ksante, naut and gave maokai with trist and rakan against jinx.
@@coleson2760 T1 looked way stronger in the last meet up, but GenG is the better prepping team I think. Especially with the input they got from T1 losing here, I think it'll be quite exciting.
JDG's coach is just miles ahead, Homme asked for 369 to join when he performed poorly, and Homme turned him into one of the best toplaners in the world, the guy carried JDG last year like Marin carrying SKT in 2015. Homme also asked Knight to join and made him a better team player, he was flamed so hard when he was in TES for his awful international performance, now he's the best midlaner at MSI. I would love to see Homme train more players who has potential.
Agreed. Homme ran circles around Bengi this series. It wasn’t even close. He also coached Ruler on how to have more offensive positioning when he gets an opportunity to cook.
@@MrDespisedIcon Homme is Korean. Dunno why he chooses to stay in China (he doesn't even speak Chinese even though he's lived there for 8 years!), since Korea has money to pay coaches due to franchising, but I'm not complaining.
I mean if that was his idea, then he is super dumb. Who the fuck picks a champ that he lost already 2 times for the 3rd time? I dont even play a champ that i lost once in a solo queue in one day, yet this pro player couldnt even think that simple
It's just the last baron with faker hooking into a 4v5 that's a complete throw even faker realize it after he hooked the enemy that he just threw the game
@@fenrael3021 My brudder in christ, what sane person would choose kindred against Annie and Wukong. Good luck finding a good time to press that Ult when they engage on you.
@@Zenthio no, Zeus have a thing with "chocking in finals" but they can just put him in tanks and he will do well, high pressure games have prove to be too much for zeus, wich is sad, he is the best top laner in a season, but during play off he slowly perform worse and worse until t1 reach finals and he just dissapear. He should look for help with a psycologist.
@@namamora1190 he was saying since Saturday it‘s all finals cuz this is upper bracket “finals” as well, and you’re going off on zeus‘ performance in playoffs? Like what are you on about??
Pretty excited for the rematch in worlds this weekend. Rewatched this to get a feel for the pick'ems but I have no idea who has the edge, this series was way closer than I had remembered
Jdg was clearly the better team today. Faker on nautilus looked very meek. In the last draft I would have prioritized rakan since keria on that champ can solo carry a fight which jdg also noticed and banned him on blue side. T1 doesn't seem to be able to spot their strengths in these close series.
Couldn't have said it better. Idk why they kept Naut prio for faker when he was this lackluster. Naut is so one dimensional, go in and that's it, no exits. Also those 2 games of Oner Kindred, I will have nightmares after that.
instead on forcing naut mid as much as they did, they should have just focused more on giving faker a playmaking champ that also deals damage, naut is very good for picking enemies but they could not find and damage to kill one person even after getting a good hook, that's how ruler was able to steamroll them. he had so much space to auto them without getting any pressure of dying
Na man, Jdg was not clearly the better Team. This series was close as fuck. Every single game could have gone either way, with crazy plays and moments for both sides. These two teams are hella equal imo. Maybe we can get some clarity in the finals (if T1 make it, which I think they do).
3 games lost with Naut mid but i bet T1 still think Naut mid would be good, wouldnt even be surprised if they picked it again. They just doesnt learn, you might think after T1 losing 2 times with it that they wouldnt pick it again, surprise surprise they did it again. Stupidity and stubborness goes hand in hand
@@esense9602 Its not good against JDG or GenG caliber of a team. You can pick it against NA or EU teams, it would be a good champ against them. But not against JDG or GENG. They never even picked Nautilus once against GenG series coz they already know it wouldnt work. But to think that they picked it against JDG is mind blowing
I think T1 should try to put Oner on Lee and put Faker on Galio. Knight loves his mages, and Faker on Galio is a treat to watch. Both also fit into the engage/peel/damage pick two comp that these teams are running right now. They either need to mix things up or perfect their drafting for this meta.
in game 5, I think (for me) that's the perfect timing for Zeus to Pick Sylas or Faker's Liss if they want to punish Ruler and Knight. Idk what T1 thinking in the drafting phase, why they still go with naut
Zeus gwen is okay but they should have pick liss there especially with Maokai as their jung... just think of the dmg those two can done especially with gwen and aphe as ur main carry...but t1 says "nope we are gonna get Naut where we lose 2x already"
Same stuff that happened vs drx in finals last year when they had a clear angle to pick Zeus' Yone and preferred to pick the bloody Viktor for Faker instead
Im such a Faker fanboy but man he got gapped hard in two of their losses and kinda solo lost them the game 5 at nash ... oner also kinda invisible what is this kindred pick twice man?? GET FAKER OFF NAUTILUS NOW BENGI!!!!
I'm not play League anymore but honestly I love the current patches so much. There're so many flexible champs and that makes the game much more interesting.
Not sure if the fight in game 4 (at 43:55), could have been saved by Oner's kindred ult. Noticed it was not used and maybe could have been to keep Gumayusi and Kiera up a bit longer for Faker and Zeus to get there as well as dish more dmg. Hard to say. All in all great games.
Faker was going for the Hail Mary on Jinx, but she stopped to auto-attack the ward twice there... They didn't have vision because of the sweeper, and he assumed the rest of the squad kept moving forward.
as a T1 fan im glad they got humbled before finals. now that they’re in the losers bracket they can’t be complacent nor sloppy if they want a chance at a rematch.
Could anyone explain the Kindred pick, Nautilus pick and the Wu not getting banned? They were way better in the games when all of the 3 criterias were met. I didnt really understand the reason behind it. Plus is T1 out or can they still win the finals?
I've watched LoL since S2 and have always supported the West. However, after seeing the gap this year and this series...just give me the top 4 LPL and LCK teams. Give the West its own mini-tournament, b/c they aren't even playing the same game.
Yea, I honestly wouldn't mind cutting all the western teams out of international events and giving them their own little participation trophy MSI. The competition would be a lot better and more fun to watch if the 4 wasted slots in LEC/LCS went to LPL/LCK instead. Maybe the western participation MSI can allocate 2 western slots to the real MSI while the east get 6 slots?
Laning phase is okay, C9/G2 were able to pull a couple great lead in early game tbh. The macro is where the West sucks. The coaching/teamfight gap is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy larger than the soloskill.
@@DD-gt9qe The problem is that the macro advantage is still only a part of the issue. While Eastern teams can gain gold advantages with it, the real gap is in teamfighting after all. You just don't see the same amount of awareness in the West. The quality of flank plays, tank spacing and ADC manuevers are just on another level in the East.
The fact that its possible for a team to end after winning a single teamfight without baron buff while the enemy t2 tower is up is ridiculous. Im hoping for some tower buffs after this MSI because the fact that it happened twice this series is worrying for the future of pro league.
it's just a huge coincidence that it happened twice you need to fight near mid have a wave and a clean ace you're usually not going 5-0 in an even game
that zeus flank was huge in game 5 he could've gone in sooner and guma prolly should've held his ult longer or used it sooner but still good game good series
Lol Zeus saves t1 most of the time. Sometimes he dies sure, but he always comeback and does most dmg in teamfights. They usually leave Zeus alone and gank mid and bot a lot. T1 lost, Zeus going earlier wouldn't have saved them, hard coping. Naut played sealed the deal, t1 gambles on picking up knight or ruler but lost.
@@stealthytrapper2328 Gwen was fine. Keria should've played Naut, that way he can go in together with Zeus and Oner. Zeus seems to be the only one finding a way to the backline, that's what made it seem bad but he was def doing work, the only one I should say.
lol, anyone blaming kindred pick in game 4 didnt watch the game i guess. The first blood wouldve completely changed the game but Oner got massively outplayed by Kanavi.
I think they're mad because T1 haters are flaming them for not being the best in the world tho. I keep seeing comments calling Faker trash or washed up or shitting on Zeus or Oner. But its crazy when you consider that they are literally playing a series to decide who is crowned "best in the world" for now. Like sure, they're doing things that are stupid and making misplays but they are also the second best time in the world playing their biggest competition who is first. This team has gone so far yet people still shit on them if they don't match up to expectations all the time. Also sure, there are deranged T1 "fans" that are braindead and shit on their own team for not winning, but that's a different story. Most fans are probably sad to see their team miss the mark by an inch and want them to be the best. But that's just my opinion
@@harveyboi3917 Quite the opposite lol. Most of those flames you're talking about are just a reaction from T1 fans trolling every single LPL stream or co-stream. You guys are quite literally the most toxic out of all the English speaking fan bases. You'll be in regular season LPL and see random T1 fans spamming Tencent memes.
@@damiester1 I’m going to be honest I’ve never seen any of what you’re mentioning. Also, most toxic fans?? How can that be the case when the whole community comes together to shit on the games Goat when he makes a bad play? Sure there are too many T1 fans that are toxic but when all the toxic fans of every community comes together to flame faker, it looks like he has more haters than fans
The nautilius pick by Faker is the definition of insanity. Also I am not a pro player but I think towers should have more health (also nerf jinx passive ffs)
Jinx is perfectly fine. She has no escape other than galeforce and requires insane positioning. Most people can't make her work at all but Ruler is just on a different level. His spacing and positioning is nuts
@@blondymonk1535 He would have lost that game with any other champ. Faker is donezo my bro, the retirement home is waiting for him with open arms. Watch as he gets gapped by Chovy and sololoses T1 the LB final
Now were down of one of the banger series,now that Jdg vs t1 is finished, we're gonna see a GenG vs BLG next and tomorrow is gonna be T1 vs who's gonna win that series The lower bracket is coming to an end in sunday it's going to be a redemption match.
Man just imagine if T1 didnt get stubborn by forcing Nautilus mid angle over and over again. Its just very stupid and stubborn. The moment you lost with a champ and a strat 2 times surely you wouldnt repeat it right? But guess what they picked it again when its game 5. I wont even be surprised by T1 opens up a Nautilus mid again when they face GenG again, Its something to expect from them since they are stubborn and doesnt learn from their mistakes.
Call me delusional, I'm a fan of T1 for 8 years now, but if Bengi or Faker or whoever decides the drafts get their shit together, they would've won JDG, not easily but they'll win. The coaching staff needs a complete rehaul, idc if Bengi is a legend of the game or whatever, but he needs to go if T1 don't win any titles this year. I wouldn't blame Keria if he decides leave T1 after this year, he deserves a better team than this bullshit, dude has to carry every game and his teammates are subpar almost every game, I genuinely feel bad for him, Zeus too in this series, he was doing so well until that Naut decided to hook everything in front of him. It's so fcking hard being a T1 supporter after 2017 I swear.
There is League of Legends, then there is Pro Scene in LoL, then there is the high level in pro scene in LoL, then there is this series.
Beautifully said
In Brazil, we call this League of Legends 2
@@cometsands fuck you might need to add na to that too, we struggling out here
High level pro-scene = Random 4v5 engage at Baron pit. Then lose the fight, lose baron and lose the game.
Sounds just like my soloQ game.
@@Aliens1337 Its cos unlike dota league punishes micro mistakes much more than macro mistakes. That's why you have macro idiots at pro scenes everywhere. They got there by being macro idiots. League is about micro.
I was lightheaded for a few hours during the entirity of this series due to how intense it was. If a fan feels this way I can't imagine how it must feel for them to represent their entire country while the whole world is watching them. Really makes you appreciate your team even more.
Hey lil bro I know the game is intense but you need know that this ain’t Olympics or World Cup. They only represent their region and not country, and you need to know only a small portion of the world, mostly young people watches league.
@@jasonou2123 By the way you speak I know you spent most of your daily life revolving around caedrel and his streams so I just want you to know that the world is big and is full of different cultures that you might not even have an idea that going pro in league is a legit career move in the east.
@@jasonou2123you're right, this isnt the olympics, people care more about league than the olympics
Every southkorean knows faker. League is like a notional sport there. The football team even honored deft worlds win with a poster at the footbal worldcup. Esport actually has respect there and doesnt get trashed on for 'making my kid agressive'.
@@JackAntony1 that’s not what it get trashed on for. It’s that most American males that play r fucking freaks, including myself😭. B/c the ppl who play r weird it’s not popular here. If u notice faker is like a chill motherfucker he’s not strange
At 44:30 into the fight, I was disappointed that nobody seemed to notice the amazing moves pulled off by 369. He successfully prevented Faker and Zeus from entering the fight by using Everfrost, and then used his ultimate move to not only push them away but also to knock Kindred back towards his team. He even tricked Kindred into wasting his up time with a stopwatch. In my opinion, these were MVP plays by 369, but unfortunately, people are only talking about Kanavi and Knight. It's a pity that 369 isn't getting the recognition he deserves.
Too many superstars on this team lul
Plently of times both team have micro actions that not a lot of people have seen. Similar things have happend in the teamfights that won T1's games. These 10 players are the best of the best.
he stopped watched and clicked e.... what?
LCK and LPL really is the Gods of League. No one played Bad, they were really in Sync. Micro and Macro gameplays are awesome. No messy plays. Trades were always ready
T1 draft was quite bad in the games they lost. Why do they keep forcing Nautilus mid over and over again? If it doesnt work for the 2nd time, why even risk it for the 3rd time? Unless they have an IQ of 20 then i can understand that but otherwise wtf?
@@jaycool2502 Cuz what else was his option. He didnt wanna vs knight on control mages
@@alexyou3233 Just because you pick a control mage, doesnt mean you need to win midlane. Are you silver or below? picking Ahri, Lissandra, and Annie is centered around 5v5. Its not about winning your lane. Just a dumb silver elo who doesnt know a thing about league, what did i even expect most youtube trolls are gold below who thinks they understand the game so much lol bye
@@jaycool2502 well jdg also lost ban/picks in certain matches because they wasn't able to establish proper tier lists for champs. They gave jinx with ksante, naut and gave maokai with trist and rakan against jinx.
LCK and LPL = T0, LEC = T3, LCS = T4, others = ...
369 gragas is just insane. The amount of playmaker ult and insane flank every single game just make t1 unable to teamfight half the time.
JDG was impeccable in this series and T1 put up a good fight. Can’t wait for the rematch at Finals.
Same
Gen g gonna stomp t1
@@OMAR-vk9pididn’t they already get 3-0
@@coleson2760 T1 looked way stronger in the last meet up, but GenG is the better prepping team I think. Especially with the input they got from T1 losing here, I think it'll be quite exciting.
@@aci.o6490 oh for sure it’ll be a much better series than the previous.
Finally the actual MSI tournament starts.
JDG's coach is just miles ahead, Homme asked for 369 to join when he performed poorly, and Homme turned him into one of the best toplaners in the world, the guy carried JDG last year like Marin carrying SKT in 2015.
Homme also asked Knight to join and made him a better team player, he was flamed so hard when he was in TES for his awful international performance, now he's the best midlaner at MSI. I would love to see Homme train more players who has potential.
Feel like most LPL coaches are way better than LCK coaches.
Agreed. Homme ran circles around Bengi this series. It wasn’t even close. He also coached Ruler on how to have more offensive positioning when he gets an opportunity to cook.
@@MrDespisedIcon nah, homme is the exception
Second best midlaner
@@MrDespisedIcon Homme is Korean. Dunno why he chooses to stay in China (he doesn't even speak Chinese even though he's lived there for 8 years!), since Korea has money to pay coaches due to franchising, but I'm not complaining.
Faker after losing two times on Nautilus: "I will fucking do it again"
I mean if that was his idea, then he is super dumb. Who the fuck picks a champ that he lost already 2 times for the 3rd time? I dont even play a champ that i lost once in a solo queue in one day, yet this pro player couldnt even think that simple
Faker Nautilus is fine, the last team fight at game 5 made it look worst.
@@esense9602 How is it fine when the only time T1 lost is with Nautilus mid. You are probably blind
@@jaycool2502 the last clash is throw for Faker but he play it fine.
It's just the last baron with faker hooking into a 4v5 that's a complete throw even faker realize it after he hooked the enemy that he just threw the game
man im gonna miss lpl vs lck so hard after msi
I love this comment
I'm a die-hard T1 fan but that game 4...
THEY NEVER LEARNED in GAME 1, THEY DESERVE THIS LOSS!!!
AM F-ING TILTED!!!
team dont normally change draft after losing one game. because it may be due to misplays that snowballed the game and not the draft.
@@fenrael3021 Well, at least now they know it‘s not the misplay but the draft doesn’t work into annie wukong.
@@greenhat7618 yup thats why they banned the wukong in game 5
@@fenrael3021 agreed, JDG also banned Ksante in game 5, people learned
@@fenrael3021 My brudder in christ, what sane person would choose kindred against Annie and Wukong.
Good luck finding a good time to press that Ult when they engage on you.
It's gonna be rough for T1 starting now. Everything has FINALS in it from this point.
I mean, it was like that since geng t1
@@Zenthio no, Zeus have a thing with "chocking in finals" but they can just put him in tanks and he will do well, high pressure games have prove to be too much for zeus, wich is sad, he is the best top laner in a season, but during play off he slowly perform worse and worse until t1 reach finals and he just dissapear. He should look for help with a psycologist.
@@namamora1190 your reply is completely irrelevant to what he said.
@@greenhat7618 no more than urs apparently...
@@namamora1190 he was saying since Saturday it‘s all finals cuz this is upper bracket “finals” as well, and you’re going off on zeus‘ performance in playoffs? Like what are you on about??
Pretty excited for the rematch in worlds this weekend. Rewatched this to get a feel for the pick'ems but I have no idea who has the edge, this series was way closer than I had remembered
In retrospect, both can be considered the best series of this year for sure
Jdg was clearly the better team today. Faker on nautilus looked very meek. In the last draft I would have prioritized rakan since keria on that champ can solo carry a fight which jdg also noticed and banned him on blue side. T1 doesn't seem to be able to spot their strengths in these close series.
Couldn't have said it better. Idk why they kept Naut prio for faker when he was this lackluster. Naut is so one dimensional, go in and that's it, no exits. Also those 2 games of Oner Kindred, I will have nightmares after that.
instead on forcing naut mid as much as they did, they should have just focused more on giving faker a playmaking champ that also deals damage, naut is very good for picking enemies but they could not find and damage to kill one person even after getting a good hook, that's how ruler was able to steamroll them. he had so much space to auto them without getting any pressure of dying
faker naut and oner kindred incident (msi upper bracket finals 2023)
@@slash5891Knight just destroyed him like he did all the other mids.
Na man, Jdg was not clearly the better Team. This series was close as fuck. Every single game could have gone either way, with crazy plays and moments for both sides. These two teams are hella equal imo. Maybe we can get some clarity in the finals (if T1 make it, which I think they do).
1:05:54 "It's gonna be a T1 vs GenG rematch" little did Caedrel know, it was a Yagao vs Knight rematch lmfao
This is some next level League here. Peak level stuff- makes the stuff I saw with LCS go right out of my mind
The amount of times Caedrel says Lee Sin during draft only for neither team to even hover it the entire tourney is getting funny at this point LOL
Can’t wait for T1 vs JDG finals. Maybe if faker lays off the naut mid and leave it to Keria they can actually win 😢
Honestly ya gotta give props to LEC for mind controlling T1 into thinking Naut mid is good.
Then give props to Doinb for going Naut mid in 2019 because he brainwashed G2 into thinking that's good lol.
3 games lost with Naut mid but i bet T1 still think Naut mid would be good, wouldnt even be surprised if they picked it again. They just doesnt learn, you might think after T1 losing 2 times with it that they wouldnt pick it again, surprise surprise they did it again. Stupidity and stubborness goes hand in hand
Naut mid is good but I don't think Faker is comfortable with that champion.
@@esense9602 Its not good against JDG or GenG caliber of a team. You can pick it against NA or EU teams, it would be a good champ against them. But not against JDG or GENG. They never even picked Nautilus once against GenG series coz they already know it wouldnt work. But to think that they picked it against JDG is mind blowing
I think T1 should try to put Oner on Lee and put Faker on Galio. Knight loves his mages, and Faker on Galio is a treat to watch. Both also fit into the engage/peel/damage pick two comp that these teams are running right now. They either need to mix things up or perfect their drafting for this meta.
just don't man.. faker galio is like winless since last year...he can pick everything just not galio or naut
@@nirvash241 well that didn't age well, 5th throphy!
in game 5, I think (for me) that's the perfect timing for Zeus to Pick Sylas or Faker's Liss if they want to punish Ruler and Knight. Idk what T1 thinking in the drafting phase, why they still go with naut
Zeus gwen is okay but they should have pick liss there especially with Maokai as their jung... just think of the dmg those two can done especially with gwen and aphe as ur main carry...but t1 says "nope we are gonna get Naut where we lose 2x already"
Same stuff that happened vs drx in finals last year when they had a clear angle to pick Zeus' Yone and preferred to pick the bloody Viktor for Faker instead
I wish they picked literally any mid lane champ instead of Nautilus. I would rather see Faker play Nocturne or Sion mid than Nautilus again
Update: GEN GOT SWEEPED BY BLG
No rerun on LCK finals XD
Anyone rewatching before worlds semifinals?
Faker's naut was like pyosik's baron, you're absolutely terrified seeing it.
Caedrel: I want teamfights
T1: 1 teamfight per game take it or leave it.
Im such a Faker fanboy but man he got gapped hard in two of their losses and kinda solo lost them the game 5 at nash ... oner also kinda invisible what is this kindred pick twice man?? GET FAKER OFF NAUTILUS NOW BENGI!!!!
Coaches only give input and which picks are according to them the best counters/picks. Players still get to decide which champs they lock.
Gapped? Just in game 1 thanks to oner invade for no reason, but the main reason was draft gap (again) that is a bad joke
@@21___dcy Nah, he did get gapped this series. No matter how you look at it, Faker wasn't contributing. Zeus, Gumayusi and Keria had to carry them.
Pls guess how many trucks the'll send if they dont win against Gen.G
I'm not play League anymore but honestly I love the current patches so much. There're so many flexible champs and that makes the game much more interesting.
Not sure if the fight in game 4 (at 43:55), could have been saved by Oner's kindred ult. Noticed it was not used and maybe could have been to keep Gumayusi and Kiera up a bit longer for Faker and Zeus to get there as well as dish more dmg.
Hard to say. All in all great games.
he doesn’t have ult that fight
The way cathedral also stands up at 25:00 makes him look like he's standing up with the rest of the team. T1 Cathedral confirmed
What an exciting day 1 of MSI! Hope the next 20 days will bring us some phenomenal League of Legends.
... what do you mean there are only 3 days left?
24:51 - caedrals reaction , is all of our reaction
Love the fact that only jinx and aphelios were picked as adc’s
Xayah isnt an adc anymore I guess
Bro are you cosplaying Lee Sin?
@@alex2005z ... i am stupid ...
Faker was going for the Hail Mary on Jinx, but she stopped to auto-attack the ward twice there... They didn't have vision because of the sweeper, and he assumed the rest of the squad kept moving forward.
27:11 Oner deserves credit here too
Kanavi showed why he's the best jungler in the world
More like draft gap
@@21___dcy lol stop finding excuses. T1 lost fair and square. They have another chance so just wait.
@@damiester1 I dont care, t1 always is gapped in draft in international
@@21___dcy got gapped in draft forever and ever and ur team T1 will never win any international, chinese better
@@rolon9 chineses? More like "we need koreans for win worlds"
I just saw this entire video and just now figured its 5 months old and not worlds..
Faker is possessed by Nautlius
Once again ruler proving why he’s still the best adc in the world. Dude remains fakers arch enemy even after all these years
Ruler is playing better in lpl than he did in LCK. he's way more offensive now
@@lgreenbey6392 he has to be. Lpl is way more aggressive in general compared to the lck
as a T1 fan im glad they got humbled before finals. now that they’re in the losers bracket they can’t be complacent nor sloppy if they want a chance at a rematch.
That’s the main problem I see as a T1 supporter. Idk why but I kinda hate it when they are on upper bracket.
31:38 didnt expect that level of German ngl
I love seeing high skill ceiling teams play front to back comps and see who does it better, who makes that play to change the fight
For me Knight MVP
yes man
And he was picked as such. Knight was MVP followed by 369/Kanvai close 2nd.
Could anyone explain the Kindred pick, Nautilus pick and the Wu not getting banned? They were way better in the games when all of the 3 criterias were met. I didnt really understand the reason behind it. Plus is T1 out or can they still win the finals?
Lower bracket Gen.G vs BLG. Winner will play T1 and then T1 could win and rematch JDG in finals.
@@TeamRocketRed I don't see Gen.G beating T1 tbh. Unless T1 have a huge mental breakdown. JDG-GEN in finals is a 3-0/3-1 for JDG
Bengi can't draft
@@TeamRocketRed And I would rather see a 3-2 than a 3-0.
If BLG managed to beat GenG and T1, does that mean the west is actually strong? Hopium
I've watched LoL since S2 and have always supported the West. However, after seeing the gap this year and this series...just give me the top 4 LPL and LCK teams. Give the West its own mini-tournament, b/c they aren't even playing the same game.
dont look it so heavily，we just watch and play the lol for fun.
I'm still rooting for LEC teams in any giving tournament, but ngl I really enjoy watching LCK/LPL teams doing insane things like that.
Yea, I honestly wouldn't mind cutting all the western teams out of international events and giving them their own little participation trophy MSI. The competition would be a lot better and more fun to watch if the 4 wasted slots in LEC/LCS went to LPL/LCK instead. Maybe the western participation MSI can allocate 2 western slots to the real MSI while the east get 6 slots?
Laning phase is okay, C9/G2 were able to pull a couple great lead in early game tbh. The macro is where the West sucks. The coaching/teamfight gap is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy larger than the soloskill.
@@DD-gt9qe The problem is that the macro advantage is still only a part of the issue. While Eastern teams can gain gold advantages with it, the real gap is in teamfighting after all. You just don't see the same amount of awareness in the West. The quality of flank plays, tank spacing and ADC manuevers are just on another level in the East.
I hate seeing faker on these frontline tanks. He really needs to be on something that damages and zones rather than just tanking dmg and cc.
The fact that its possible for a team to end after winning a single teamfight without baron buff while the enemy t2 tower is up is ridiculous. Im hoping for some tower buffs after this MSI because the fact that it happened twice this series is worrying for the future of pro league.
it's just a huge coincidence that it happened twice you need to fight near mid have a wave and a clean ace you're usually not going 5-0 in an even game
That 4v5 engage at baron is what I see in my plat elo games idk what they were thinking going for that
People always talk about how good ruler was,but I think we all forget how good the whole team was, especially Knight and 369
Knight was MVP, and I will vote 369/kanavi 2nd
@@YCHTT ruler was very good, I think how they protect ruler was also insane
Pick nautilus they said, it will be fine they said...
Fudge.
Dom almost cried at the end because it won't be a lck vs lck finals. He was so happy. I willtencent will be sleeping like a baby today.
ChinaWithin is probably going to the casino tonight
@@asherm4767 won 10k ggwp
And iwillsucklckballball can’t sleep tonight
@@asherm4767 who is chinawithin?
lol chill out. He was predicting a T1 win from 2 weeks ago till now.
that zeus flank was huge in game 5 he could've gone in sooner and guma prolly should've held his ult longer or used it sooner but still good game good series
Zeus is a fantastic player. But he never delivers when T1 needs him the most.
@filipe1985 that's arguable. in the other gwen game I think was fine. not in thr last one tho
@@kush.4962
Is it really arguable tho? He's consintenly gapped by the opposing Toplaner in Finals and 369 was clearly the best player today, so yeah..
@@HopefulNihilist its just Gragas curse
Lol Zeus saves t1 most of the time. Sometimes he dies sure, but he always comeback and does most dmg in teamfights. They usually leave Zeus alone and gank mid and bot a lot. T1 lost, Zeus going earlier wouldn't have saved them, hard coping. Naut played sealed the deal, t1 gambles on picking up knight or ruler but lost.
25:14 Faker is the Homie who waits for the guy tying his shoes ❤
Here I am again, still in the Knight vs Chovy waiting room
Keep waiting, because it's gonna be knight vs yagao all over again.
@@tehmastawow That'd even better
I actually like both scenarios.
If T1 wanna win , Nautilus Should not be used again🤣
100%. also gwen was horrible when poppy was open
Never pick that fucking champ unless its for Keria
@@crimsonphoenix8907how do you know its not for him? its just draft changes as pick ban goes
@@stealthytrapper2328 Gwen was fine. Keria should've played Naut, that way he can go in together with Zeus and Oner. Zeus seems to be the only one finding a way to the backline, that's what made it seem bad but he was def doing work, the only one I should say.
@@stealthytrapper2328 nah Gwen was only reason t1 stalled as long as they did, got gapped hard.
rewatching before they meet again at worlds, lets hope it tops this series
lol, anyone blaming kindred pick in game 4 didnt watch the game i guess. The first blood wouldve completely changed the game but Oner got massively outplayed by Kanavi.
Only T1 fans can be mad that there's literally one team in the world better than theirs.
I think they're mad because T1 haters are flaming them for not being the best in the world tho. I keep seeing comments calling Faker trash or washed up or shitting on Zeus or Oner. But its crazy when you consider that they are literally playing a series to decide who is crowned "best in the world" for now. Like sure, they're doing things that are stupid and making misplays but they are also the second best time in the world playing their biggest competition who is first. This team has gone so far yet people still shit on them if they don't match up to expectations all the time.
Also sure, there are deranged T1 "fans" that are braindead and shit on their own team for not winning, but that's a different story. Most fans are probably sad to see their team miss the mark by an inch and want them to be the best. But that's just my opinion
@@harveyboi3917 Quite the opposite lol. Most of those flames you're talking about are just a reaction from T1 fans trolling every single LPL stream or co-stream. You guys are quite literally the most toxic out of all the English speaking fan bases. You'll be in regular season LPL and see random T1 fans spamming Tencent memes.
Actually Im happy that there's rival. Without JDG there is no actual rival for T1
@@damiester1 you forgot to mention t1 hater appearing every single time to bait the fans
@@damiester1 I’m going to be honest I’ve never seen any of what you’re mentioning. Also, most toxic fans?? How can that be the case when the whole community comes together to shit on the games Goat when he makes a bad play? Sure there are too many T1 fans that are toxic but when all the toxic fans of every community comes together to flame faker, it looks like he has more haters than fans
All they had to do was make faker not play naut for 3 games.
At 1 hour and 3 minutes, look at the way MISSING moves with the nautilus ult on him. He made sure Nautilus ultimate knocked up none of his teammates
Was waiting for this!
T1 vs GEN again ❤❤❤❤ this MSI is fun
The nautilius pick by Faker is the definition of insanity. Also I am not a pro player but I think towers should have more health (also nerf jinx passive ffs)
Jinx is perfectly fine. She has no escape other than galeforce and requires insane positioning. Most people can't make her work at all but Ruler is just on a different level. His spacing and positioning is nuts
@Beech Pls 1 teamfight loss at 20 minutes, even gold and still tier 2 standing shouldn't be game
It wasn't insanity. It was a good pick. Faker just blew it
@@JaeJae95 bro wdym no escape? jinx has exited and ghost and is faster then a hecarim on steroids
@@zeinmets3550 good pick how? He never has mid prio and he played like shit. Give him something else ffs 😭
Legends say Caedrel's editor once uploaded a full co-stream before the series was over.
No idea why faker picked the nautilus like three times.
No spoilers but this was a banger
the amount of the outplays on these series.. holy shit
Knight just ended Faker's career.
Naut did that.
@@blondymonk1535 He would have lost that game with any other champ. Faker is donezo my bro, the retirement home is waiting for him with open arms. Watch as he gets gapped by Chovy and sololoses T1 the LB final
@@zeinmets3550 certified hater spotted get a grip on life
@@zeinmets3550 they were saying this when they faced gen g earlier in the tournament as well, so we'll see
I don't really play league recently but still enjoying your contents 😎
Oner is really a penta stealer. it's not an accident steal but an intentional one
Now were down of one of the banger series,now that Jdg vs t1 is finished, we're gonna see a GenG vs BLG next and tomorrow is gonna be T1 vs who's gonna win that series The lower bracket is coming to an end in sunday it's going to be a redemption match.
Man just imagine if T1 didnt get stubborn by forcing Nautilus mid angle over and over again. Its just very stupid and stubborn. The moment you lost with a champ and a strat 2 times surely you wouldnt repeat it right? But guess what they picked it again when its game 5. I wont even be surprised by T1 opens up a Nautilus mid again when they face GenG again, Its something to expect from them since they are stubborn and doesnt learn from their mistakes.
Man, dont ever tell me fnatic couldnt have finished the game against MAD after seing T1 ending like this in game 2
faker inted so fucking hard in game 5
Biggest T1 fan ever right Caedrel? lmao
Someone kick Oner out of the chair whenever he picks Kindred against a burst team comp again.
Game 4 was my favorite, Faker and Zeus killl ruler but Kanavi just bangs up Guma in that river fight.
I really do hope t1 win this msi
JDG just too good at protecting Ruler, thats a strong point of the LPL
This is the highest level of league of legends in lol history.
This is what peak League of Legends looks like and it comes from china💀
The game t1 nearly lost to mad was when faker play naut mid. T1 performs the worst when he plays naut mid. I wonder how they haven't realized that
anyone knows why 369 sion doesnt show the rune on the side like other champs?
Faker griefed this series, still the GOAT but his decision making on hooking into certain death was pretty sus
Ruler has a shot at overtaking him.
@@zeinmets3550ruler at least need to win 2 more world trophy and 3 msi trophy
@@zeinmets3550 Has won 1 LCK and 1 Worlds his entire career? It's arguable that he's even a top 2 adc
It’s insane how much people think every time he makes any mistake “he’s washed” etc… having a few bad plays doesn’t make him washed
@@orendamusic7577 haha true that , people are delusional
"Was für ein Scheiß ist das denn" hit me mid commentary hard af
Finally spoiller free thumbnail
Best series of the year in my opinion
10:10 ruler read zeus q flash like a book, JDG ruler truly build diff, altho i dk about naut mid and especially kindred jg, seems so useless
Im still confused how T1 managed to end both of their wins off 1 won teamfight less than 25 minutes in
Damn 369 peeling more than my grandma has peeled potatos in her life.
28:00 what does it remind him of?
No way my mans just popped a zyn in the lip mid game
Call me delusional, I'm a fan of T1 for 8 years now, but if Bengi or Faker or whoever decides the drafts get their shit together, they would've won JDG, not easily but they'll win. The coaching staff needs a complete rehaul, idc if Bengi is a legend of the game or whatever, but he needs to go if T1 don't win any titles this year. I wouldn't blame Keria if he decides leave T1 after this year, he deserves a better team than this bullshit, dude has to carry every game and his teammates are subpar almost every game, I genuinely feel bad for him, Zeus too in this series, he was doing so well until that Naut decided to hook everything in front of him. It's so fcking hard being a T1 supporter after 2017 I swear.
Here we you go, thanks editor i didnt watch live cause i didnt have time, and confident that you will deliver this soon enough
the kindred pick really made my heart hurt lol
What a matchup. JDG definitely seems like the better team. T1 wins seemed kinda flukey.
Flukey? That's a nutty take. T1 seems better but prioritized Naut mid too much. T1 overall seems to be better.
@@thestoebz cant agree...only Keria seems better, the other 4 did underperform their opponents..
@@DD-gt9qe sure bud
@@DD-gt9qet1 wins was in 20' with that u must know that team is better
K'sante is so broken like cmon you cant kill that champ
That's why T1 won that game3 with Faker Ksante mid neutralized Annie.
what's with the draft throw?? That shit was like worlds against drx
+1
Note to T1 staff don’t give Kanavi the monke
G2 mind f'd T1 since the first game of the tournament with the Naut prio 😂