These guys are some of the best at what they do. You must continually shock the muscle to continue to grow. Little isolation and pump exercises won't cut it. Sacrificing some form but still controlling very heavy weights seems to work very well for them. Can't argue with the results.
Thing is they’re not really controlling it, Dorian Yates lifted heavy but he used strict form probably explains why he has 6 mr o’s and this guys have zero
@@kurtbarlow5408 Yea but both these guys have Top 10 Olympia finishes and Branch won the Arnold Classic in 2012 with a couple 2nd and 3rd place finishes in the Mr. O. as well. Still impressive, especially when you factor in how long their careers lasted.
i think branch knows that now. i think he and johnny hear that alot. but at the end of the day it is what you wanna do. i think he rather train his way, than train a way that that he doesnt want to, to win the olympia. i think he knows that if im gonna train this way i might not be mr olympia, but i like how i am training. this is my style, this is who i am. at the end of the day it is what he wants, and i think he knows he wont be mr o. but the will do his best. everyone is different. i dont even train like him. even doe i like his intensity, makes me amp up and wanna kill some weights!
Branch is a F....... WARRIOR in my top 10 all times , people talk and talk ....... but NO ONE go to the gym to do a F...... workouy , just " Seats Pussies" or " Keyboard Earriors" , I admire every single Bodybuilder in the world of any level , due I know the sacrifice. Im one of them.
Everyone is talking about half reps etc, those half reps help keeps tension in the muscles which maximizes the break down of muscle fibers, especially with those heavy weights. This is no bs body building.
Full reps with no outside force would be ideal for muscle fiber breakdown. The more you use swinging or non-targeted muscle groups to move the weight, the less you are utilizing the muscle fibers in the target area. Mike Mentzer and Dorian Yates are prime examples of bodybuilders who used excellent form in order to cause muscle fiber breakdown.
Some of the best body builders had shitty forms. When the weights are that heavy you'll see results fuck form. Form is overrated and meant to keep you injury free
Артём Бочкарев his injuries came from using heavy weights in an explosive manner. When you do that you are exploding from your weakest point. Its an injury waiting to happen. With regards to his triceps tear just before the 97 olympia, he had taken cortisone shots in the tendon and that weakens them, also being so hardcore, he didnt reduce his poundages even though he had corrected the explosive issue. The form these two show is just plain ego driven stupidity. Are you telling me they cannot gain from heavy weights in strict form to failure????!!!!
these two couldn't be more different imo, their physiques are like the complete opposites of each other but they both compete in the same competition. it just goes to show how many aspects there are when it comes to judging bodybuilding.
Personally I love watching these guys wreck themselves in the gym. Very entertaining. Like watching boxing or MMA; would never do it myself as I care about my long-term health. I'm sure their joints will not feel too good when they're older.
I love the part were he falls off the horse in Generation Iron lol (i never saw this video before, but... it's still very clear in my mind "Dumb and Dumber" are at it again.
they talk about injuries all the time ... they know the risk with their training ... they still look amazing and are elite level pro bodybuilders ... so ur comments mean nothing
I like how they work out and the intensity and all that but can someone explain why they don't sit down and they're doing the bar overhead press? I would think that would put a lot of pressure on the lower back and if you're not going to sit down why not stand up and do them?
Erick Franco I dont understand where you little guys get the nerve to say these things haha. Its so much fun to watch you little boys clamber to talk shit though!
People don't understand that, as far as training goes, you can do everything "correctly", get full range of motion, control the reps and even get a great pump and still not grow. Most people in the gym today just play on their phones, wait for the right fucking song to come on before they do their set... they lack the intensity needed to force the muscle to grow. Its not just the steroids, its not your genetics, its the fucking work ethic. I personally know 5 people on steroids who dont know what the fuck they are doing! and guess what? they are still small and weak. People just sell themselves short when they look at someone bigger and more muscular and say they only got that way through steroids and not through their hard work. Most people have great potential but will never get to see what they are capable of because they're not willing to put in the work.
Oh, I am so impressed with these guys! They are my heroes. Beautiful and natural doing everything with their strong minds and good genetics. Wow! And their high morale, never ever would they dream of cheating at a competition. Something to admire!
I love watching branch train...barbarian style. What fuking energy they have. Most people wouldn't last 5 minutes with him. Say what u want about his form ..hes one of the top on the planet.
If you are not powerlifting and playing football what's the point of doing full reps contraction is the goal I did powerlifting in highschool and won several medals and awards but my body looked like crap strong as a ox but looked like shit when I got out of college and stopped playing football i changed my workout style up I grew like never before with the short rep motion contraction is the key
I worked at a Powerhouse gym for many years in the early 90's.......anyone care to guess how the dumbbell handles get bent and have to be replaced? Anyone?
Serious Question. How do these guys build so much muscle (inb4 steroids reply's) when they are basically disregarding the general rules of physical training, like mind muscle connection, 313 tempo, controlled reps, full ROM and lifting with the muscle as opposed to using momentum? Please enlighten me.
ROM is not always required; in fact several studies suggest limited ROM for hypertrophy training cycles accelerates growth. How do you know where their minds are? That's an odd statement. I've seen Branch train and believe me, his mind is as focused as you can get. The one thing that will confuse a natty trainee (or any trainee) is the sloppy form. Some guys thrive on it. I know Branch has injured himself a lot training this way, as have other guys who are all about the weight. However, this is right before a show, and they are probably using as much weight as possible ANY WAY possible just to keep muscle tissue. Oh, that, and they're genetic freaks of nature. That never hurts. : )
I have noticed the same type of training form in this video, in almost every pro I have ever seen train, and from past experience on you tube I knew this debate would come up in the comments before I saw your post. There is no shortage of would be experts willing to tell everybody exactly how to train, eat etc, the problem is its mostly opinion with little or no science, and most don't even bother to consider what research shows or if there even is any. When have you ever seen a comment posted with a reference listed to support what they say on you tube? ever? Its a big deal because citing accepted authoritative references is basic scholarship and an essential, expected requirement in every academic setting and science, an opinion or what they heard is not acceptable. With this in mind, experienced trainers like these guys use a variety of techniques and still focus on making the muscle do the work even during faster reps. The research shows VARIETY is king for optimal gains, if you just use slow reps you compromise gains in power, keep in mind the muscle fiber type and how you train, because fast twitch fibers are what give you power and size mainly, slow twitch for endurance. Look at a sprinter compared to a marathon runner. So don't use body english just to cheat up too much weight, but faster reps and contraction like here are used to train fast twitch fibers and increase intensity, still keeping stress on the muscle without using momentum to do it all. A good easy to read source for all your training questions that is based on the best available research and lists all the studies is www.exrx.net or just google your questions being sure to also include the word research in your search. This is how it should be done my friend, science isn't perfect either, but at least you can avoid a lot of just BS from the blow hards and have some confidence in the information.
Because that's what bodybuilding is. It all comes down to the fucking needle if you want to reach an unnatural physique, perfect form and controlled reps are really not even needed. Truth is always hard to digest
"313 tempo, controlled reps, full ROM and lifting with the muscle as opposed" These aint rules, these are "guidelines" for people who are new to the sport. JoJ and BW do have the mind muscle connection, they can feel exact the muscle they want to train even while they are swinging and using momentum. this ability separates the pros from the hobby sportsmen.
Train smattttt, injury prevention in mind, will conserve the joints well into your 50'$ ...60 even, but this Hardcore, training techniques, yes.....will fcuk yo shiet uppppp
this type of training is just working out for them,all the jerking and half reps,its just how their physiques are! full length reps work for physiques like arnold.for every type of physique there are different type of movements
Ya-know that is an interesting comment. I agree..some guys look far better during pre-contest and sometimes off season than they do when they come in a show. Sometimes they just flatten completely out, lose hardness..etc Both of them look crazy huge in this video and have surprisingly great conditioning (dunno how close or far in they are to a show)
These guys work out like they have a vendetta against the gym equipment.
These two may not have the best form, but you gotta admire the raw intensity they bring day in and day out.
Love Branch and Johnnie's training! Always the most energy and inspiration! Warriors!
Fuck form, jus go heavy as fuckkk
Johnnie Jackson's traps look like you can colonize on them!!!! LOL
These guys are some of the best at what they do. You must continually shock the muscle to continue to grow. Little isolation and pump exercises won't cut it. Sacrificing some form but still controlling very heavy weights seems to work very well for them. Can't argue with the results.
Dumb pump trainingplans have costed me lots of time, training heavy is key
Thing is they’re not really controlling it, Dorian Yates lifted heavy but he used strict form probably explains why he has 6 mr o’s and this guys have zero
@@kurtbarlow5408 Yea but both these guys have Top 10 Olympia finishes and Branch won the Arnold Classic in 2012 with a couple 2nd and 3rd place finishes in the Mr. O. as well. Still impressive, especially when you factor in how long their careers lasted.
gjtt Dorian won 6 Olympia’s when the competition was FAR more fierce, neither of these guys would crack the top 10 in the 90’s
When these two guys come together it's like the superhero of hardcore reunion.
These guys!
These guys work hard.
@I’M NOT YOU NEVER WILL BE viagra
two of the baddest blue collar workers in the business!
Two thumbs up, great intense very focus training.
When i see these guys work out i think this must be how Vikings and barbarians worked out! So hardcore!
Branch warren is one of the best natural bodybuilders ever! Probably the only actual natural guy in the Olympia!
My shoulder grow just watching the video 💪🏼🥵🥵🥵
Beautiful….Very Much…The Big Man!!! Let’s Goo Baby, Yessssss🫵💥💥💥💥💣🔥
Esse vídeo motiva qualquer ser vivo!!!
2:25 THE ROCK? LOL
Matt Lehr I think?
I tore something by just watching this
funny guy eh...?
jonathan ludwig
yes
pussyboi :)
Exodus7214
i think branch knows that now. i think he and johnny hear that alot. but at the end of the day it is what you wanna do. i think he rather train his way, than train a way that that he doesnt want to, to win the olympia. i think he knows that if im gonna train this way i might not be mr olympia, but i like how i am training. this is my style, this is who i am. at the end of the day it is what he wants, and i think he knows he wont be mr o. but the will do his best. everyone is different. i dont even train like him. even doe i like his intensity, makes me amp up and wanna kill some weights!
Branch is a F....... WARRIOR in my top 10 all times , people talk and talk ....... but NO ONE go to the gym to do a F...... workouy , just " Seats Pussies" or " Keyboard Earriors" , I admire every single Bodybuilder in the world of any level , due I know the sacrifice. Im one of them.
Everyone is talking about half reps etc, those half reps help keeps tension in the muscles which maximizes the break down of muscle fibers, especially with those heavy weights. This is no bs body building.
Full reps with no outside force would be ideal for muscle fiber breakdown. The more you use swinging or non-targeted muscle groups to move the weight, the less you are utilizing the muscle fibers in the target area. Mike Mentzer and Dorian Yates are prime examples of bodybuilders who used excellent form in order to cause muscle fiber breakdown.
Some of the best body builders had shitty forms. When the weights are that heavy you'll see results fuck form. Form is overrated and meant to keep you injury free
icalderus also yates had more injures with his proper tech - funny right?)
Артём Бочкарев his injuries came from using heavy weights in an explosive manner. When you do that you are exploding from your weakest point. Its an injury waiting to happen. With regards to his triceps tear just before the 97 olympia, he had taken cortisone shots in the tendon and that weakens them, also being so hardcore, he didnt reduce his poundages even though he had corrected the explosive issue. The form these two show is just plain ego driven stupidity. Are you telling me they cannot gain from heavy weights in strict form to failure????!!!!
Proper form builds quality muscle. Shity form builds shity muscle. i.e. Branch warrens physic.
Definitely gives perspective on training insane. GO Branch!
it's fast forward to me
I don't get how they could be so extremely good with workouts like this
WTF at 4:02 was Branch doing......LOL too funny!!!!!
Leaning high incline presses?
5:45 look at Johnnie dance such glorious form for throwing your hands in the air.
prison style of weight training with passion ❤️
these two couldn't be more different imo, their physiques are like the complete opposites of each other but they both compete in the same competition. it just goes to show how many aspects there are when it comes to judging bodybuilding.
Great bench Press.
Legend and deep work out good job guys love it
good warm up
why am i getting pumped bruh!!!
No Pain No Gain to the extreme!!!!
Personally I love watching these guys wreck themselves in the gym. Very entertaining. Like watching boxing or MMA; would never do it myself as I care about my long-term health. I'm sure their joints will not feel too good when they're older.
THE BATTLE OF THE HE-MEN!
Trick or Lift! Light weight baby!!
6:03 I've seen it all now...
damn. thats that real work
I love the part were he falls off the horse in Generation Iron lol (i never saw this video before, but... it's still very clear in my mind "Dumb and Dumber" are at it again.
Dumb and dumber. What a great name for these two. lol
I just saw that the other night. Right after he talks about injuries trying to be cool that horse bucked his ass off!
Haha legendary comment
Perfect training partners by the look of how they work together
Good Work!
This whole time I've been doing seated shoulder presses incorrectly. You're supposed to do them standing like these two. lol
they talk about injuries all the time ... they know the risk with their training ... they still look amazing and are elite level pro bodybuilders ... so ur comments mean nothing
3:35 I didn't know that Johnnie Jackson has epilepsy
JOJ is in the BEST SHAPE EVER!!!!! GOOD WORK FOR MUTANT NUTRITION!!!!
I like how they work out and the intensity and all that but can someone explain why they don't sit down and they're doing the bar overhead press? I would think that would put a lot of pressure on the lower back and if you're not going to sit down why not stand up and do them?
Johnny Jackson has the best traps EVER!!!!
‘DANCES WITH IRON’
Real intensity
Disclaimer: Not a single rep was completed in the making of this video.
Erick Franco weird how it still seems to work for them :o
***** umm, yeah steroids tend to help with that.
Erick Franco aye, steroids. Because doing no training and taking steroids makes everyone huge...
Aaron Thain aye, steroids. Because doing no steroids and training makes everyone huge.
Erick Franco I dont understand where you little guys get the nerve to say these things haha. Its so much fun to watch you little boys clamber to talk shit though!
Nice
“See yu at lympia” -Branch Warren
People don't understand that, as far as training goes, you can do everything "correctly", get full range of motion, control the reps and even get a great pump and still not grow. Most people in the gym today just play on their phones, wait for the right fucking song to come on before they do their set... they lack the intensity needed to force the muscle to grow. Its not just the steroids, its not your genetics, its the fucking work ethic.
I personally know 5 people on steroids who dont know what the fuck they are doing! and guess what? they are still small and weak. People just sell themselves short when they look at someone bigger and more muscular and say they only got that way through steroids and not through their hard work. Most people have great potential but will never get to see what they are capable of because they're not willing to put in the work.
Two crazy!
I agree.
Gerçek antreman budur keşke sakatlık olayları olmasa bu tarz çalışırdım
What kind of exercise Branch is doing at 4:00? Is it some variation of push press? Seated push press from chest maybe?
branch warren must be on dat dere goblintech
Motivation!
Hey MAM is great im traning too you very well big i like this video congratulations for you.
That gym looks like a hot box.
Better than AC shit
@@ronaknanda6175 :( my 5 yr old comment:(
they have been doing it for so long that it doesnt matter if they train properly anymore because their muscles are already tense
Beasts.
Oh, I am so impressed with these guys! They are my heroes. Beautiful and natural doing everything with their strong minds and good genetics. Wow! And their high morale, never ever would they dream of cheating at a competition. Something to admire!
Could you please repost in 720p format?
3:30 upperchest
The half rep masters
2 monster!
what work fr u..tht all matterzzz
omg the best
Is Crazy
Legend has it that not a single rep was done that day
Are they training at planet fitness?
I love watching branch train...barbarian style. What fuking energy they have. Most people wouldn't last 5 minutes with him. Say what u want about his form ..hes one of the top on the planet.
6:00 thats some dance moves :D
JOJ is looking better than ever imo
5:13 ...i just popped 3 ligaments watchin that
W...T...H...😳
치팅계의 전설
Sirr humko suru se bataiye na mera body pump nhi karta h .......beginner to end
If you are not powerlifting and playing football what's the point of doing full reps contraction is the goal I did powerlifting in highschool and won several medals and awards but my body looked like crap strong as a ox but looked like shit when I got out of college and stopped playing football i changed my workout style up I grew like never before with the short rep motion contraction is the key
I worked at a Powerhouse gym for many years in the early 90's.......anyone care to guess how the dumbbell handles get bent and have to be replaced? Anyone?
Spartacus ! :D
Branch looked amazing at the Arnold 2015 man he was huge but my boy Dexter beat him Dexter Jackson the Legend wins again.
son una vestias para en trenar
Working and work wought
Trust me not good way to workout even though it's hard but what if you are damaging your body .
Serious Question. How do these guys build so much muscle (inb4 steroids reply's) when they are basically disregarding the general rules of physical training, like mind muscle connection, 313 tempo, controlled reps, full ROM and lifting with the muscle as opposed to using momentum? Please enlighten me.
ROM is not always required; in fact several studies suggest limited ROM for hypertrophy training cycles accelerates growth. How do you know where their minds are? That's an odd statement. I've seen Branch train and believe me, his mind is as focused as you can get. The one thing that will confuse a natty trainee (or any trainee) is the sloppy form. Some guys thrive on it. I know Branch has injured himself a lot training this way, as have other guys who are all about the weight. However, this is right before a show, and they are probably using as much weight as possible ANY WAY possible just to keep muscle tissue.
Oh, that, and they're genetic freaks of nature. That never hurts. : )
This is just how they train on camera, either they're ego is telling them to lift like weightlifters the the cameraman is.
I have noticed the same type of training form in this video, in almost every pro I have ever seen train, and from past experience on you tube I knew this debate would come up in the comments before I saw your post. There is no shortage of would be experts willing to tell everybody exactly how to train, eat etc, the problem is its mostly opinion with little or no science, and most don't even bother to consider what research shows or if there even is any. When have you ever seen a comment posted with a reference listed to support what they say on you tube? ever? Its a big deal because citing accepted authoritative references is basic scholarship and an essential, expected requirement in every academic setting and science, an opinion or what they heard is not acceptable. With this in mind, experienced trainers like these guys use a variety of techniques and still focus on making the muscle do the work even during faster reps. The research shows VARIETY is king for optimal gains, if you just use slow reps you compromise gains in power, keep in mind the muscle fiber type and how you train, because fast twitch fibers are what give you power and size mainly, slow twitch for endurance. Look at a sprinter compared to a marathon runner. So don't use body english just to cheat up too much weight, but faster reps and contraction like here are used to train fast twitch fibers and increase intensity, still keeping stress on the muscle without using momentum to do it all. A good easy to read source for all your training questions that is based on the best available research and lists all the studies is www.exrx.net or just google your questions being sure to also include the word research in your search. This is how it should be done my friend, science isn't perfect either, but at least you can avoid a lot of just BS from the blow hards and have some confidence in the information.
Because that's what bodybuilding is. It all comes down to the fucking needle if you want to reach an unnatural physique, perfect form and controlled reps are really not even needed. Truth is always hard to digest
"313 tempo, controlled reps, full ROM and lifting with the muscle as opposed"
These aint rules, these are "guidelines" for people who are new to the sport. JoJ and BW do have the mind muscle connection, they can feel exact the muscle they want to train even while they are swinging and using momentum. this ability separates the pros from the hobby sportsmen.
monstro💪💪
This video should be teach for all boys in the world, be a man.
Hope you guy's have steel toes on !
How would ben pakulski react on this??
What the workout
Train smattttt, injury prevention in mind, will conserve the joints well into your 50'$ ...60 even, but this Hardcore, training techniques, yes.....will fcuk yo shiet uppppp
How did Johnnie Jackson get such a great back always doing half-reps? Does he double up on creatine doses? What's the secret?
anyone here because this randomly popped up on your recommendations?
this type of training is just working out for them,all the jerking and half reps,its just how their physiques are! full length reps work for physiques like arnold.for every type of physique there are different type of movements
Boom very hardcore !! :-)
Sadly neither of them will look as good as this on contest day,
Ya-know that is an interesting comment. I agree..some guys look far better during pre-contest and sometimes off season than they do when they come in a show. Sometimes they just flatten completely out, lose hardness..etc
Both of them look crazy huge in this video and have surprisingly great conditioning (dunno how close or far in they are to a show)
Tupac walks in at 6:00 ?
Woooooooooooow
i love yu
3:49 tupac :p
Too much momentum, dancing with the weights!