What Makes People Buy? Price & Value Masterclass w/ Ron Baker

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2022
  • If you've been struggling financially to manage your expenses, price of product, or just overall livelihood of your work, then get ready to finally bridge that knowledge gap with the help of Chris Do & Ron Baker, as they discuss the concepts of Ron Baker's book "Implementing Value Pricing: A Radical Business Model for Professional Firms".
    With a long & experienced background as a Certified Public Accountant, as well as Chris Do's masterful questions, Ron Baker is able to break down these concepts of price & value simply enough for anyone to understand!
    6:25 Subjective theory of value
    7:15 High client impact, high prices welcome
    8:25 Price justifies the costs
    12:21 The power of brand
    14:39 Both the buyer and seller profit
    16:04 Pricing sends signals
    17:32 Determine your market position
    21:19 Value is subjective, price is contextual
    26:00 Give your customers pricing options
    27:29 The value conversation
    31:10 Premium prices w/ clear value prop
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 629

  • @felixquansah5214
    @felixquansah5214 Рік тому +382

    Definitely ranks in the top 3 guest interviews of the future. This man is insanely articulate and when I check all the references he’s making, he’s on a different level. Please bring him back soon. Loved this!!!

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  Рік тому +30

      He sure is. We plan on having Ron on again.

    • @Samuel_eldavis
      @Samuel_eldavis Рік тому +2

      Which other ones do you rank in the top 3? Would be interesting to know

    • @KBootsTee
      @KBootsTee Рік тому +4

      Curious… Who are the other top 2?

    • @KBootsTee
      @KBootsTee Рік тому +2

      Yesssssssssss! Incredible, forthright and clear

    • @josephalexander681
      @josephalexander681 Рік тому

      OMG!!! When are you all having him back?

  • @joshuacunningham7912
    @joshuacunningham7912 Рік тому +278

    6:25 Subjective theory of value
    7:15 High client impact, high prices welcome
    8:25 Price justifies the costs
    12:21 The power of brand
    14:39 Both the buyer and seller profit
    16:04 Pricing sends signals
    17:32 Determine your market position
    21:19 Value is subjective, price is contextual
    26:00 Give your customers pricing options
    27:29 The value conversation
    31:10 Premium prices w/ clear value prop

    • @saraeissa4954
      @saraeissa4954 Рік тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  Рік тому +12

      Joshua, I'll update the description. Thank you !

    • @EzekJohnson
      @EzekJohnson Рік тому +1

      Powerful. Thank you Joshua.

    • @joshuacunningham7912
      @joshuacunningham7912 Рік тому +2

      @@thefutur Right on my friend. I just do this for personal/public notes. I actually haven't finished them yet 😂. I'll respond here when I do.

    • @ivankaradzhov3610
      @ivankaradzhov3610 Рік тому

      Thanks

  • @seungjaeyeo8050
    @seungjaeyeo8050 Рік тому +22

    The relationship between value based service and self esteem/self respect. The first sale you make is the price you put on your own service. WOW. Just wow..... this chat's value is just out the roof.
    Thank you for sharing this with the world!

  • @Adrian_Galilea
    @Adrian_Galilea Рік тому +9

    Can't believe this video is free.
    Thanks.

  • @lantigre
    @lantigre Рік тому +123

    Great interview. The best part was Chris taking the time to digest Ron's stories and points, and re-frame or rephrase them to ensure the audience (and possibly himself) understands the knowledge being dropped. Thank you

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  Рік тому +10

      You’re very welcome

    • @whatsapchat7443
      @whatsapchat7443 Рік тому

      TeXtMe DiReCtLy🤙🤙🥶🥶

    • @KBootsTee
      @KBootsTee Рік тому +1

      AGREED!!!! His comments furthered my comprehension and practicality. Soooo good

  • @aaronramsden1657
    @aaronramsden1657 Рік тому +30

    This is by far the most articulate and thorough explanation of value pricing Ive ever heard

  • @linadukstaite6046
    @linadukstaite6046 Рік тому +11

    This man made a massive difference in how we reorganised our business mind in our business today. It is amazing to listen someone like him for free!

  • @GofelipeGraphicDesign
    @GofelipeGraphicDesign Рік тому +21

    I love the landscaping story and I’ve seen where I was the first two landscapers in many similar situations when I never heard back from the client.

  • @dylanmartinez925
    @dylanmartinez925 Рік тому +45

    Ron is a fantastic teacher, this was so helpful. Incredibly coherent and direct, great examples and references. You can tell he's been doing this for a long time. True professional.

  • @ByGodsGrace99
    @ByGodsGrace99 Рік тому +19

    Learned more in the first 10 minutes than 4 years of my college marketing courses

    • @lucface
      @lucface 2 місяці тому

      Love UA-cam for that

  • @jonathangonza
    @jonathangonza Рік тому +3

    It's always super valuable when a person that deals with money and other people's money speaks, lots of valuable information is able to be extracted.

  • @JacquiMwangi
    @JacquiMwangi Рік тому +22

    I have the Ron Baker headache. This guy is amazing and I can't wait to read his books

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  Рік тому +1

      the medicine for this is to read his book. ;)

  • @markm4642
    @markm4642 Рік тому +4

    The UA-cam algorithm is recognizing the value of your channel. This got recommended to me.

  • @DeconTheMonkey
    @DeconTheMonkey 3 місяці тому +2

    The conversation and information in this is amazing. Can’t believe this is freely available for the public! Gonna take notes after my first listen.

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  3 місяці тому

      We are here to help.

  • @dtopping5961
    @dtopping5961 Рік тому +30

    I’m only half way through and had to stop - to process what he just said. This information is en point. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate him speaking of the “solve the problem” issue only getting the customer to the status quo. We work so hard to bring more and all the business books get repetitive. This interview is so good. I’m taking a break and turning it back on in just a minute.

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for commenting

  • @jameslay6505
    @jameslay6505 Рік тому +8

    This is one of those interviews I'm gonna have to watch maybe 5 times over taking notes each time. Even on my first run I keep replaying lines because there's so much meaning packed in such few words.

  • @yv_shh
    @yv_shh Рік тому +10

    I absolutely love how Chris is asking questions just like a student? He really applies what he teaches - Learn - Unlearn and that's why I respect him as my Guru. Love you Chris ❤️

  • @ms.mcghee6286
    @ms.mcghee6286 Рік тому +4

    This video is solid gold. Well articulated by both host and guest. So many gemstones in this content for those holding a genuine interest in sales, particularly getting better at sales. Thank you for letting me feel as though my time was well spent in watching. Cheers!

  • @humanvoice369
    @humanvoice369 11 місяців тому +2

    Bam! That's a world class business class on UA-cam 💫 What a wonderful man!! Great to see people like this when the world is going the greedy and unimaginative free economy way. We need the youth to take notes from people like him. 👏👏

  • @olamideelegbe7009
    @olamideelegbe7009 Рік тому +10

    One of the best interviews I have come across. Really learnt a lot.

  • @Jphilipson
    @Jphilipson Рік тому +5

    This guy is explaining the opposite of everything I've ever heard from every "successful" photographer in the photojournalism industry and it makes way more sense then all of the seminars I went to which explained how to break down your operating costs to justify your price.

  • @KBootsTee
    @KBootsTee Рік тому +5

    THRILLED to have stumbled on this. Intuitively I have been contemplating idea of subscription for my practice/business. Now I realize the true power of it and how strongly it aligns with my mandate, beliefs and mission. More pondering and reading to do !!!!! I feel incredibly INSPIRED. Thank you to both of you! 🙏🏼

    • @AljaMr
      @AljaMr Рік тому

      I wonder how did you implemwnt the subscription? I also love the idea…

  • @SWOOPNEBULA
    @SWOOPNEBULA 4 місяці тому +1

    This was amazing shout out The Futur and much love to Ron.

  • @HavenatLee
    @HavenatLee 3 місяці тому

    Yes, favorite interview so far! Great job, Chris!

  • @krmorantte
    @krmorantte Рік тому +6

    As someone who is just starting in the branding industry, this channel is gold mine! 🔥

  • @ThaoTrangPhotography
    @ThaoTrangPhotography Рік тому +5

    I love this interview with Ron and Chris. IDK if it’s just me but I always like Chris doing the interview instead of allowing others to host it lol. Anyways, this was the best video ever! Watched all the way through and never got bored.

  • @DABlinxz
    @DABlinxz Рік тому +2

    10 minutes into this and I've already learned so much. This is pure gold. 🥇

  • @luciaiglesias1456
    @luciaiglesias1456 Рік тому +17

    So much business wisdom! Thank you for another value-packed video, huge admiration

  • @sewkingwet
    @sewkingwet 4 місяці тому +2

    Absolutely fantastic video, this is SOOOO AWESOME! Service based businesses need to know this!

  • @alexandrfedorov5722
    @alexandrfedorov5722 10 місяців тому +1

    Value of this video is amazing. Thank you so much!

  • @ideegeniali
    @ideegeniali Рік тому +2

    Clarity, competence and value/concepts per minute in this interview is insane! Thank you very much!

  • @10xAds
    @10xAds 11 місяців тому +3

    Amazing podcast .. and the man is genius especially.. love the idea when he said u just don't solve the problem as it brings the customer back to point A .. but help him to achieve his dream ... .. excellent podcast

  • @jerryoverton7037
    @jerryoverton7037 Рік тому +3

    I don't agree with everything expressed, but (as usual) The Futur has put out great content. It's not just the high quality of the guests, but the equally high quality of the interviewing. Hats off to Chris for carefully preparing thoughtful questions and being willing to shut the hell up while the guest answers.
    Great stuff.

  • @luanf
    @luanf Рік тому +6

    I don't listen to podcasts and definetely don't watch them.
    But this.
    This one is probably the most valuable interview I've watched in a long while. I instantly got a copy of his book and will do the same for the next one.
    Thanks Chris for bringing this person to my knowledge. I, like you, try to always go deeper in the knowledge tree and find the real OGs when it comes to sales, marketing and applied psychology so this was super insightful and helpful.

    • @thefutur
      @thefutur  Рік тому +1

      Luna, you might reconsider podcasts. I find them to be great.

    • @d1o2n4
      @d1o2n4 Рік тому +1

      Yeah podcast are great especially when you’re doing more tedious tasks like painting a fence or cleaning the house. Decent pair of headphones, juicy podcast and you barely notice the work plus constantly learning.

  • @Itsthegreatwalt
    @Itsthegreatwalt Рік тому +1

    This is the best conversation I’ve ever heard about pricing. So many takeaways

  • @olenievart
    @olenievart 4 місяці тому +1

    I just love this content here, man. We before in Ukraine and some still in BC, as everywhere else, still tend to think that the product’s value depends on actual hourly labour price involved and a number of another self explanatory ingredients. Whereas what’s the author is saying, in the opposite, is a customer based subjective theory of validating products pricing. Great job.

  • @kyanareneemayfield2834
    @kyanareneemayfield2834 Рік тому +8

    Was literally just looking up all of Ron Baker's stuff when this came out. Thank you

  • @christianacker3543
    @christianacker3543 Місяць тому

    BRAVO!
    I wish every design student would learn this. I wish every high school student would learn this. I wish every voter would learn this.
    Thanks for these interviews, Chris Do.

  • @titofly00
    @titofly00 Рік тому

    I've had heard this interview like 3 times now, it's so amazing to listen to both of you. thanks!

  • @jameskelly8620
    @jameskelly8620 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! You really scratched my itch! Wow thank you one of the best!

  • @fernwehtwl
    @fernwehtwl Рік тому +1

    i love this guest! he's so funny and very smart. I respect him

  • @uhurudenis
    @uhurudenis Рік тому +9

    Your videos have helped me so much in running my business.

  • @CardizoneSemblance
    @CardizoneSemblance Рік тому +2

    I've never heard of this channel but the UA-cam algorithm gods smiled upon me today. I don't own a business or freelance but this video was mind-blowing. That example of the landscapers was insightful dive into the art of value propositioning.

  • @ayushkumarchandra
    @ayushkumarchandra 8 місяців тому +3

    Can't thank The Futur enough for this. I always used to give 3 price options to the buyers but never thought it can be improved so much. Definitely gonna buy the book.

  • @zsanettkovacs6234
    @zsanettkovacs6234 Рік тому

    Watched this 3 times already. So much value! Thank you

  • @bh3mediavideos
    @bh3mediavideos Рік тому +1

    I truly believe this video, just profoundly changed my life! I never heard of Ron Baker until now. His brake down of Value….will forever change how I do business and everyday life. Thank you!

  • @CooleyHairGal33
    @CooleyHairGal33 Рік тому

    This is absolutely one of the best discussion on innovative pricing!! Thank you Chris.

  • @bmejia220
    @bmejia220 Рік тому +1

    Awesome insights from this man Ron. Thank you Chris for bringing him on. Next I’m diving into all his books, priceless value I think!

  • @sub.owen.create
    @sub.owen.create 9 місяців тому

    This is an absolutely epic conversation… Gold 🙏

  • @leemartin7579
    @leemartin7579 Рік тому +3

    The value contained within this video cannot be overstated. Thank you!!!

  • @JamieGAdaire
    @JamieGAdaire Рік тому +1

    If Ron doesn’t, he ought to be doing voiceovers. He has an excellent tone and he’s consistent.

  • @NetKnowHow1
    @NetKnowHow1 Рік тому +3

    I loved this pod cast. Labour theory of value. Intrinsic value? The subjective theory of value. Utility of customer value. I am trying to price an offer that brings a prospect B to B leads for product sales.

  • @Amish6Stringer
    @Amish6Stringer Рік тому +1

    Did you make this video SPECIFICALLY FOR ME?! This is amazing. Thank you so much for this. Bought the book. Rethinking everything. THANK YOU

  • @jolenerobbertse8129
    @jolenerobbertse8129 Рік тому +3

    This is one of my absolute favorite videos on your channel! Thank you so much for the content you produce and put out!

  • @tuikigeorge
    @tuikigeorge Рік тому +1

    Wow... This is the best interview on the channel. Has changed my business model completely.

  • @notebeansstationery
    @notebeansstationery Рік тому

    so much valuable content, thank you for sharing on value pricing, subscription modeling, and reshifting a mindset on an exchange of value!
    The best thing i’ve heard was from my brother when i was trying to price my art prints i sell at events. I initially wanted to sell it for 10$ becuase i also was charging for my costs, and when i asked him how much he would pay, he told me $20-40. The best thing he said was:
    “If i wanted to buy a nice paper like this, i would go to home depot or staples and buy it myself. I would pay for this piece for the art and the value it has.”
    This changed my perspective forever!

  • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
    @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena 7 місяців тому +1

    It's not everyday i see someone using a Blue Yeti mic. They are great mics honestly

  • @carmelgrace6402
    @carmelgrace6402 11 місяців тому

    Thank you ! What a great interview. Mr. Baker , what a great orator , just so intersting and knowledeable

  • @harryreafor
    @harryreafor Рік тому +1

    By far one of the best interviews here in the Futur!

  • @Ah_Mariee
    @Ah_Mariee Рік тому +4

    I just kept taking notes and outlining things for further research. This was a pricing masterclass!

  • @KGohill007
    @KGohill007 Рік тому

    Another banger. Loving it. This put my mind into hyperspace. +points for reading list. +points for podcast. +points for think-tank 👍👍👍

  • @BeIndigoDesign
    @BeIndigoDesign Рік тому +2

    Fantastic interview! Please get him back on to talk more about actually implementing a subscription model for creative services. Mind blown!

  • @renehundertpfund5221
    @renehundertpfund5221 Рік тому +1

    Such an amazing interview - incredible value - thanks so much for this gold nugget!

  • @Vladyyy
    @Vladyyy Рік тому

    I have no doubt the editor of this values our time

  • @blurbing511
    @blurbing511 Рік тому +7

    Another high-value video. Thanks, TheFutur team!

  • @pouchbae
    @pouchbae Рік тому

    This was amazing! Jam-packed with so many gems! Thank you

  • @BossLadyJay
    @BossLadyJay 11 місяців тому

    I have not thoroughly enjoyed or found value in a lot of UA-cam videos lately, but this was top-tier! Thank you 🤗

  • @KRUChY_80
    @KRUChY_80 Рік тому +1

    my mind just go BUUUUUM - so many pitches, ideas, mind hacks... WOOOWW

  • @Nb61777
    @Nb61777 3 місяці тому +1

    6:50 this is great, something also missed here is basic economics principle of supply and demand!
    If a product has minimal supply and much demand, doesn’t matter how much utility it has, it’s over priced BUT PEOPLE WILL BUY! Same thing for a very saturated market, product can provide significant value but if there is more supply than demand, the product will be underpriced for its utility!

  • @infinaneek
    @infinaneek Рік тому +1

    One of the best interviews yet. Thank you!

  • @baptistemiramon
    @baptistemiramon Місяць тому

    Incredible interview! Thank you.

  • @didelphissaksia786
    @didelphissaksia786 Рік тому

    Again a video of this channel of Guru's which has helped me to advance in my understanding. ❤ Thanx SO much!

  • @Truestratusx
    @Truestratusx Рік тому +1

    Very insightful. Had to reshare it.

  • @Leonmiller407
    @Leonmiller407 Рік тому +4

    So much value in this interview thank you for doing it. You’ve got my brain working

  • @GoddessKhepraEl
    @GoddessKhepraEl Рік тому +5

    Stellar masterclass and interview! I listened twice back to back to get the takeaway notes and double check uh earring them right. This is exactly what I needed as I have been at a stall in my service and if I’d be launching the subscription box I’ve contemplated

  • @pburt3650
    @pburt3650 Рік тому

    Brilliant podcast! Thank you!

  • @brandonshabazz255
    @brandonshabazz255 Рік тому

    Incredible. I literally need to listen again and take notes.

  • @BiNDiViSUAL
    @BiNDiViSUAL Рік тому

    There were so many greens in this interview, great interview. Chris, Thank you for interviewing Ron

  • @lydiaoe5227
    @lydiaoe5227 Рік тому +5

    I am 100% in with the part about understanding the clients needs & context and giving the client options. The subscription part then suddenly makes a complete turn here. When your clients are mostly public authorities and are required to obtain at least 3 tenders from 3 different firms; proposing a subscription, would be asking the decision-making person to do sth that would make them lose their job. Consequently, it is contradicting to understanding the clients context.

    • @catsinpajamas
      @catsinpajamas Рік тому +1

      Subscription models are a fad and people are already sick of them. I predict there will be a big backlash.

  • @BeYourOwnDoctor
    @BeYourOwnDoctor Рік тому +1

    Mind blowing concepts. A masterful podcast. Thank you for posting. Dr Jackson

  • @ezrabagus535
    @ezrabagus535 Рік тому +1

    Wow this is super insightful and anwer if not all, most of my question regarding my business. After this I will reinvent what I do with my practice, and really be mindful about what customer wants and needs. Just wanted to speak that out to the world, thank you for the knowledge Ron and Chris :)

  • @niallcochrane3331
    @niallcochrane3331 Рік тому +1

    The landscaper story was invaluable knowledge.

  • @pandaccj9811
    @pandaccj9811 Рік тому +4

    I can listen to both of them the whole day without feeling bored. Pack with value. Thanks, Chris and Ron

  • @michaelwalling9030
    @michaelwalling9030 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding discussion. So much to digest here.

  • @Rog.Tiks._
    @Rog.Tiks._ 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for your content. It's priceless as usual!

  • @vivianeaires3335
    @vivianeaires3335 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic episode. Thank You, Chris!💜

  • @1dream921
    @1dream921 Рік тому +2

    This was extremely valuable!

  • @SoumiSenguptaBDS
    @SoumiSenguptaBDS Рік тому

    Mic drop ....both of you illuminated these concepts beautifully.

  • @notlmpng
    @notlmpng Рік тому +1

    Watching this in South Africa. What an interview! Found the book on Perlego and I'll read it religiously.

  • @Arun198601
    @Arun198601 Рік тому

    Loved this session so much...I wrote a blog post based on it for my industry. Tweaked the content but since the learning is transferable across industry...amazing stuff! Keep it coming!

  • @slycer10
    @slycer10 Рік тому +1

    This is next level stuff. Awesome interview, great answers and fantastic stories packed with insights 😀👍

  • @lovingbeing4294
    @lovingbeing4294 Рік тому

    GOLDEN INTERVIEW, TRUTH spoken ❤

  • @SolowSports
    @SolowSports Рік тому

    This is soo great. Had to watch it multiple times to soak it all in. Thanks!

  • @samptest2778
    @samptest2778 Рік тому

    Love this podcast and it is my first time listening to your podcast and I think I am going to be your loyal follower

  • @davidlakvold8380
    @davidlakvold8380 Рік тому

    Wow. Thank you for discussing the subjective nature of value. Excellent interview.

  • @Summitapparel
    @Summitapparel Рік тому

    Absolutely loved this! So helpful!! 🙌🏼

  • @fuadimunzir
    @fuadimunzir Рік тому

    This podcast have so many insight 🥰

  • @TheTobs50
    @TheTobs50 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent interview. Very much outside my own frame of reference and set of interests, but very informative and full of practical insights.

  • @legalcoffee5315
    @legalcoffee5315 11 місяців тому

    Extremely insightful - thank you

  • @Stu-K
    @Stu-K Місяць тому

    Good interview and I agree with, and have applied for the last 45 years, much of what was discussed when what you are selling is essentially the knowledge between your ears. When you are selling a manufactured product with materials to buy, development to do and prototypes to build, test and verify, and millions or more in CAPEX to invest, then the equation is not the same.
    To whom you are selling is also another major consideration. Selling to the actual consumer, say Apple, is not the same as selling to a major industrial business, say Ford, who want to know (and insist on suppliers providing) every detail in their bill of materials, their engineering costs, CAPEX, labour rate, overhead, investments, .... and last but not least their profit margin.