The ram, especially from Earthlings, is the ultimate last great defiance. At least you’ll go with me! “To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!”
Worf's 'Prepare for Ramming Speed!' was not just Klingon bullshit. The weird nose of the Defiant's were packed with anti-matter explosives to be used either as a massive detached mine while the rest of the ship makes off or, as Worf fully intended to introduce to the Borg head on! It may well have taken out the cube.
Captain Hemsworth's sacrifice set unreasonable expectations for the reboot; it showcased how great it could have been, and then unimaginative J.J. copy-pasted every sequel...
Into Darkness was an altered version of a 1985 Star Trek novel "Dreadnought". The Khan thing was a waste, it could have stood well enough on it's own with just the Rittenhouse scandal.
@@lovipoekimo176shows how green behind the Ear, cadet Captain Kirk really was, this was total Kobayashi Maru territory and prime Kirk don’t believe in the no win scenario. kirk and company was totally the Red Squad In the valiant of the Kelvin line except given officially the flagship
You forgot about the ramming Maneuver in Babylon 5 a call to arms were Captain Anderson took the ISA Victory, and rammed the experimental human, Mimbari, Vorlon Destroyer into the command module of a Shadow death cloud Threatening Earth.
Trek weapons tend to be so powerful that once you get through the shields, you're pretty much toast no matter what. Only super rare materials like neutronium can withstand phasers and torpedoes for long, and it's so heavy that they can only be used to make bunkers and bases. Plus they can never find enough to make ships with.
Which is why in the prime timeline, as the ship designs progressed, certain things became more compact and less exposed, like the tall neck section and the warp pylons. Even then, this kind of situation isn't a common occurrence.
There have been better and more shocking examples since, but at the time the Jem'Hadar ramming the _Odyssey_ was one of the most stunning moments in television SF to date. _TNG_ had just finished its run, and the _Odyssey_ scenes were the most time we'd spent with a _Galaxy_ Class ship and, perhaps more importantly, her bridge crew other than the _Enterprise._ By the end of the episode the _Odyssey_ was very much a proxy for the _Enterprise,_ so to see her destroyed so effortlessly by a single attack ship was a gut punch like nothing we'd seen in _Trek._ I was already a huge fan of _DS9_ but that episode and that moment was a taste of just how different and daring the show would be over the next five years.
That was the worst one for me. The engines and mass of the Rebel ship versus the engines the ISD was ridiculous. There would be no way that that frigate could pushed a ship several magnitudes of tonnage larger than itself without it pancaking everything from the fore to the engine decks. It'd be like trying to ram one of those super massive oil tankers with a small boat and expecting the tanker to move.
@@seantaggart7382 Over a span of several seconds. The amount of inertia required to push the first ISD into the second ISP by such a small ship would require a ramping up period of dozens of minutes, they'd have been able to launch TIE fighters who could move into positions to shoot out the engines of the Rebel frigate.
I know they're going to be doing a remake but I really hope they don't. B5 was such a phenomenal series. I can just imagine them changing massive parts of the show for the non-existent modern audience.
I put it on hold, but I've been working on a recreation of this battle, here is my version of the shot (at the time) of the impact. :D I think I made some tweaks to it after this clip was posted. ua-cam.com/video/Qx41NtYCAA8/v-deo.html
I think that part of the issue is that it looks like the Jem'Hadar ship hit the Odyssey just above the deflector, but the damage made it look like it hit right below the deflector. Edit: I watched on slow mo, and the Jem'Hadar ship hit the Odyssey's torpedo launcher, but the damage was added as if it hit below the Odyssey's deflector.
2:45 Ant-Kirk could have easily ordered full speed reverse and put distance between the Enterprise and the weevils. Also: area effect photons would have destroyed them. I also wonder why shields don't seem to work in the *Star Trek* films.
@@ohiobrian8993 I had it in there originally, but I had to remove it due to a copyright claim; otherwise the video would be blocked in the US and Canada
... that last one makes no sense. You're telling me that dinky little ship can not only survive crashing into a Star Destroyer with only minor damage, but has enough power to push it sideways and destroy another Star Destroyer simply by being pushed into it? What was it made of, Unobtanium?
If memory serves, the Hammerheads were originally supposed to be tugs. To say their engines are a bit overpowered is an understatement. The Star Destroyer they were pushing had also been disabled if I remember correctly... the rest was just pure inertia getting built up.
Number 2 on the list.... *Sigh* That scene has a lot of problems with it. That's not really a ram... that's more akin of a tug boat pushing a ship into another... I guess the visuals are great... but I wince at the way it ignores physics... lots and lots of ignoring of physics. :/
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Babylon 5, EAS Churchill vs EAS Roanoke- “This is the full measure of our resolve. Sic Semper Tyranus.”
"Sorry to chip your hull paint!" - Ramming Frigate pilot, Homeworld Emergence
"come over and we'll talk about it" - The Beast ship he just rammed
The ram, especially from Earthlings, is the ultimate last great defiance. At least you’ll go with me!
“To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!”
And as the old saying goes, ''IF YOU CAN'T DODGE IT, RAM IT!''
Except that it was the whale that rammed the Pequod.
There's room in this coffin for both of us!
Worf's 'Prepare for Ramming Speed!' was not just Klingon bullshit. The weird nose of the Defiant's were packed with anti-matter explosives to be used either as a massive detached mine while the rest of the ship makes off or, as Worf fully intended to introduce to the Borg head on! It may well have taken out the cube.
Captain Hemsworth's sacrifice set unreasonable expectations for the reboot; it showcased how great it could have been, and then unimaginative J.J. copy-pasted every sequel...
Into Darkness was an altered version of a 1985 Star Trek novel "Dreadnought". The Khan thing was a waste, it could have stood well enough on it's own with just the Rittenhouse scandal.
Or set the torpedoes to proximity detonation, likely would have helped scatter the swarm long enough to warp out
Exactly. That annoyed the heck outta me too
@@lovipoekimo176shows how green behind the Ear, cadet Captain Kirk really was, this was total Kobayashi Maru territory and prime Kirk don’t believe in the no win scenario. kirk and company was totally the Red Squad In the valiant of the Kelvin line except given officially the flagship
@@lionsjourney29 not just him but the officer at Tactical as well
The first one, number 10, was not a ramming, that was a dissection.
We only met Captain Hiroshi that episode, but hot dang her heroism was EPIC! Babylon 5 is simply the best
know what you mean. And the music too, still gets me even today. Those three episodes 8,9,10 were just epic
Severed Dreams was a dang good episode
You forgot about the ramming Maneuver in Babylon 5 a call to arms were Captain Anderson took the ISA Victory, and rammed the experimental human, Mimbari, Vorlon Destroyer into the command module of a Shadow death cloud Threatening Earth.
I love how ST Beyond showed the fatal flaw in all ST races and their capital ships
Trek weapons tend to be so powerful that once you get through the shields, you're pretty much toast no matter what. Only super rare materials like neutronium can withstand phasers and torpedoes for long, and it's so heavy that they can only be used to make bunkers and bases. Plus they can never find enough to make ships with.
Which is why in the prime timeline, as the ship designs progressed, certain things became more compact and less exposed, like the tall neck section and the warp pylons. Even then, this kind of situation isn't a common occurrence.
Nah, just a near criminal lack of understanding on how metals, mass, enertia and cutting edges work.
No love for the Enterprise E ramming the Scimitar?
@@CamCamTheCat that one is in part one.
@@SkywalkerFilms1927 haha, I never saw the 'part 2' bit of your title, I'll give it a watch 😀
There have been better and more shocking examples since, but at the time the Jem'Hadar ramming the _Odyssey_ was one of the most stunning moments in television SF to date. _TNG_ had just finished its run, and the _Odyssey_ scenes were the most time we'd spent with a _Galaxy_ Class ship and, perhaps more importantly, her bridge crew other than the _Enterprise._ By the end of the episode the _Odyssey_ was very much a proxy for the _Enterprise,_ so to see her destroyed so effortlessly by a single attack ship was a gut punch like nothing we'd seen in _Trek._ I was already a huge fan of _DS9_ but that episode and that moment was a taste of just how different and daring the show would be over the next five years.
Then we got to see her sisters avenge her destruction later in the series. :D
I wouldn't say effortlessly. Callously, most definitely. Despite having disabled her, they still had to ram their attack ship into her.
Can't believe they blocked Pegasus going out like a Boss!
A very good list and movie. Well done!
Your No. 6 here is the undisputed No. 1!
Hanx!
Freemakers scene brought back so much nostalgia
Torpedos -use proximity fusing like an AA barrage. Seems like they forgot the past in the future.
Definately Rogue One for me. It's also nice that Henry Stickmin gets an honorable mention.
@@andrewmontgomery5621 it was the greatest plan.
That was the worst one for me. The engines and mass of the Rebel ship versus the engines the ISD was ridiculous. There would be no way that that frigate could pushed a ship several magnitudes of tonnage larger than itself without it pancaking everything from the fore to the engine decks. It'd be like trying to ram one of those super massive oil tankers with a small boat and expecting the tanker to move.
@@Sujad ITS CALLED SPACE!
all that force is applied over time!
@@seantaggart7382 Over a span of several seconds. The amount of inertia required to push the first ISD into the second ISP by such a small ship would require a ramping up period of dozens of minutes, they'd have been able to launch TIE fighters who could move into positions to shoot out the engines of the Rebel frigate.
It is the Ultimate maneuver!
"Divert All power to the Engines! Give me Ramming Speed!!" - Capt. John Sheridan, Babylon 5
8:48 A Galaxy-class starship is only as powerful as the plot needs it to be.
Well, this was the first time they'd encountered the Jem'Hadar, they had to introduce them as a very real threat.
Great videos thanks
Stickmin entry is one hell of a goated move :D nice
I guess #1 doesn't exist xD
Severed Dreams was such an amazing episode, B5 CGI sadly looks so dated now, would be amazing if redone.
Honestly some of it still holds up today
I know they're going to be doing a remake but I really hope they don't. B5 was such a phenomenal series. I can just imagine them changing massive parts of the show for the non-existent modern audience.
@@Sujad It's not a remake. It's a different timeline. Some substantial changes from the original, enough to make it stand on its own.
@@jamesbuchanan4414 It's going to suck, particularly if they try making it with an eye for the "modern audience".
@@Sujad JMS is still helming it. It will not suck.
PLOW THE ROAD!
8 should be#1
Nice stuff. Thanks. Peace
Ro Lauren will always have a special place in my sock drawer
The voyager ramming was probably the best moment in that whole pile of trash show, but, it was still better then any of the nu-trek.
Super. 💙 T.E.N.
Awesome dude 😎👍
Always thought the destruction of the Odyssey had bad VFX. It never looked to me like the Jem'Hadar ship actually hit it.
I put it on hold, but I've been working on a recreation of this battle, here is my version of the shot (at the time) of the impact. :D I think I made some tweaks to it after this clip was posted.
ua-cam.com/video/Qx41NtYCAA8/v-deo.html
I think that part of the issue is that it looks like the Jem'Hadar ship hit the Odyssey just above the deflector, but the damage made it look like it hit right below the deflector.
Edit: I watched on slow mo, and the Jem'Hadar ship hit the Odyssey's torpedo launcher, but the damage was added as if it hit below the Odyssey's deflector.
2:45 Ant-Kirk could have easily ordered full speed reverse and put distance between the Enterprise and the weevils. Also: area effect photons would have destroyed them. I also wonder why shields don't seem to work in the *Star Trek* films.
Well kirk didn't believe in no win scenarios
He didn't WANT to retreat
Where was star trek Nemesis? that ram was great... should have replaced the Krall one.
@@bouldy2 it was in part 1 of the series.
@@SkywalkerFilms1927 Sooo I didn't see the 2 until I saw your youtube comment on my post... Sorry... I'll go watch and like both.
So, it seems this happens very often. What's the deal, sci-fi?
#1 glitched. we didnt see pegasus
@@patrickarseneault7407 it didn't glitch; I had to remove it due to copyright issues.
You list number 1, and I agree it's the best, but you don't show it!
@@ohiobrian8993 I had it in there originally, but I had to remove it due to a copyright claim; otherwise the video would be blocked in the US and Canada
... that last one makes no sense. You're telling me that dinky little ship can not only survive crashing into a Star Destroyer with only minor damage, but has enough power to push it sideways and destroy another Star Destroyer simply by being pushed into it? What was it made of, Unobtanium?
If memory serves, the Hammerheads were originally supposed to be tugs. To say their engines are a bit overpowered is an understatement. The Star Destroyer they were pushing had also been disabled if I remember correctly... the rest was just pure inertia getting built up.
Number 2 on the list.... *Sigh* That scene has a lot of problems with it. That's not really a ram... that's more akin of a tug boat pushing a ship into another... I guess the visuals are great... but I wince at the way it ignores physics... lots and lots of ignoring of physics. :/
@@aralornwolf3140 yep...
@@SkywalkerFilms1927,
Sorry for being a Debbie downer... but I can't turn off my mind sometimes, lol.
They should have warped outta there before those drones got close .. Kirk was an idiot to wait
Overconfidence was often one of Kirks weaknesses.
@@Thurgosh_OG Because the movie has to happen