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  • @evanfield580
    @evanfield580 3 роки тому +23

    The guts of this amplifier look built reallly well

    • @600zxr
      @600zxr 3 роки тому

      Basically the same as Power Acoustik Vertigo 10000. The CAB 22 is strappable, the Vertigo is not. Also looks like the CAB might have some upgraded caps.

  • @iuse9646
    @iuse9646 3 роки тому +18

    But how many amps did it draw? Seriously. If you're reading this, please include the amp draw

  • @craftchest
    @craftchest 3 роки тому +6

    SunDown is a class act all around. They not only believe in their products, they also believe in other companies and support them. In other words they are not snobs' .
    Thank you for being you everyone at SunDown Audio. Your shit indeed does not have an odor.
    I have spoken.

  • @MrDopey32
    @MrDopey32 3 роки тому +6

    That's bad ass that it did 1 1/2 times it's rated power. Great deal on price and it's a beautiful amp inside and out! Great video Derrick, thanks bud!

  • @MyBlowncobra
    @MyBlowncobra 3 роки тому +8

    As always derek is dropping another good video...nice to see cab growing.

  • @Theeorale
    @Theeorale 3 роки тому +10

    Ran My Cab2k at .5 ohm daily since I bought it!! Beast of Amps!!!

    • @Theeorale
      @Theeorale 3 роки тому +2

      Just recently upgraded to B2 Riot7500

    • @lukaschulz1376
      @lukaschulz1376 3 роки тому

      @@Theeorale how do you like that b2 7500? I just ordered mine

    • @Theeorale
      @Theeorale 3 роки тому +1

      One of the best purchases I've made so far. I went with double 2/0 inputs because im still wired to .5 ohm and I need to upgrade my electrical again.(Excessive Amperage 320amp Alt and a D2700). Been playing with it and having lots of fun until i see low 12v then I let it charge back up. Once I go lithium full tilt should be crazy loud. Enjoy it my dude!

  • @michaelsalyer4370
    @michaelsalyer4370 2 роки тому +1

    I've had a Cab 22 for about 6 months now on a DDX 15 D2 wired to 1 ohm and it's BRUTAL. It's awesome for the price for sure.

  • @richhancock3110
    @richhancock3110 3 роки тому +2

    Dam that amplifier is just a beautiful !! Plus it put out some serious wattage

    • @12jazion
      @12jazion 2 роки тому

      Beautiful? It is a box like every other cheap Chinese amp, they did not even spend 5 minutes designing the case.

  • @jondoe6618
    @jondoe6618 3 роки тому +6

    Still have my cab 1600. Great amp!! Been waiting for this one to come out. Wasn't impressed with the 2k.

    • @geraldking5360
      @geraldking5360 3 роки тому

      What my 2k slaps but I ordered the cab 45

    • @Astrothunderkat
      @Astrothunderkat 2 роки тому

      2k is chinese, this is korean made by S&I

  • @jasonc.ziegler9414
    @jasonc.ziegler9414 3 роки тому +1

    Just ordered 2 of these to power four 10s. Can't friggin wait to get this build goin

  • @ChickenJoe24
    @ChickenJoe24 3 роки тому

    Great vid and always love the honesty and dignity yu bring to the community Derek. Mad respect and s/o from Florida

  • @basslifexxl2391
    @basslifexxl2391 3 роки тому +1

    thanks brither love ur vids, and amp looks BEAUTIFUL!!!! For power and price this thing is untouchable in my opinion! Guts are just DOPE! Built like a tank, one pretty ass tank!

  • @whoopdeedo83
    @whoopdeedo83 3 роки тому +1

    Just pulled the trigger on this amp. Hard to beat this at $250. It was in FedEx hands a couple hours after ordering and has a delivery date for the 7th. Can't beat that service.

  • @susanholliman3306
    @susanholliman3306 3 роки тому

    The guts tell the truth that thing makes clean power nice cab stuff rocks

  • @basslifexxl2391
    @basslifexxl2391 3 роки тому

    Derrick is spot on! They are built better last longer if they have that power build up capabilities

  • @MrNasty-ei1zz
    @MrNasty-ei1zz 3 роки тому +1

    I love mine have it hooked up to 2 Sundown sa 12 V2 running at 1 ohm. Definitely puts out some nice power for the price you can't beat it

    • @TakkaFlakkaFlame
      @TakkaFlakkaFlame 3 роки тому +1

      Let’s see a video. I just ordered this amp and I have the same subs

    • @tylerjordan4875
      @tylerjordan4875 3 роки тому

      I have the same setup. Going in a Honda Civic . Can u show me a video

    • @tylerjordan4875
      @tylerjordan4875 3 роки тому

      @@TakkaFlakkaFlame you got yours ready yet? I also have the same setup

    • @MrNasty-ei1zz
      @MrNasty-ei1zz 3 роки тому

      I just put mine in a beautiful custom built 5 cubic foot 8in octoport

    • @MrNasty-ei1zz
      @MrNasty-ei1zz 3 роки тому

      I uploaded my video you could check it out that is in the old enclosure. My game was set between an 1/8 and 1/4 and a quarter bass 0

  • @wayneslain9444
    @wayneslain9444 3 роки тому

    Picked up my cab 22 today now looking forward to preordering my cab 45 and looking out for the 150.4ab

  • @bobbyackerson4125
    @bobbyackerson4125 3 роки тому

    Hell ya great video glad I grabbed 2 from the pre orders!!!!

  • @kmcgz
    @kmcgz 3 роки тому +1

    I still running my 2 cab1600s 1ohm ea. P.S I still like the brushed color metal look of the 1600s better

  • @williemccraw2073
    @williemccraw2073 3 роки тому +1

    I’m buying two and strap them up on two crossfire 18 inch subs. I love doing budget amps on big subs. The subs are the xs version 2. Four inch coils .7 ohms per coil. In a custom enclosure about 8 cubes.

  • @MyWilliams86
    @MyWilliams86 2 роки тому

    I love this amp 😱 shit beats like a mother Fukuoka 2 skar evls 12 4 ohm wires to 1 loving it so much

  • @AcidDeathRitual
    @AcidDeathRitual 3 роки тому +1

    Is that a revision of an existing board, or new design? It looks kinda new.

  • @hausboxes
    @hausboxes 3 роки тому +7

    So this or a jp23??? I think that's the real question

    • @a-team65
      @a-team65 3 роки тому

      Knob on the 23 looks fucking awesome.. like the ct sounds and deaf bonce knobs

    • @paintman2020
      @paintman2020 3 роки тому

      @@a-team65 this puts out way more power the knob that comes with the cab has volts and clip light

    • @paintman2020
      @paintman2020 3 роки тому

      @@a-team65 its a adjustable volt meter also but most are if you know how

    • @a-team65
      @a-team65 3 роки тому

      @@paintman2020 this puts out less power than the jp. And it doesn’t have a voltage meter built into the knob or temperature

  • @diantrecreagh3269
    @diantrecreagh3269 3 роки тому

    Almost 6k thats fuckin ridiculous thats a budget banger FORSURE JESUS

  • @Audysseus
    @Audysseus 3 роки тому +1

    really wish they would release a manual or any type of specs id love to see what kind of damping factor it has

    • @drrckhamilton
      @drrckhamilton 2 роки тому +1

      Not sure what the specs are on this amplifier but I just listened to a demo of this amp in a SQ system where the guy switched out his SQ amp and subwoofer temporarily to give me a demo of a Sundown Audio sa 10 in a t-line box that he was selling. The amplifier was super clean with excellent damping and the single 10 in a well built t-line was probably the best single sub system that I have ever heard and I have been into car Audio for 20+ years.

  • @sohood317
    @sohood317 3 роки тому +1

    Just got myself a x15 v2, needing a sundown sticker to represent, how do I get one? Thanks and great information on your vids.

  • @BenaresDarkness
    @BenaresDarkness 3 роки тому +3

    I want to see dynamic with the
    salt 12.

  • @Barney-hk3es
    @Barney-hk3es 3 роки тому +1

    Thats a clean looking boardn

  • @bugzycapone
    @bugzycapone 3 роки тому +2

    Pro tip - Warranty stickers hold no value in the court of law. They are actually ILLEGAL. The 1975 Magnuson-Moss Warranty act allows consumers to open electronics.
    Kudos

  • @quintonwilliams8586
    @quintonwilliams8586 3 роки тому +4

    Just pre ordered the CAB 45 I want to see that on the dyno

    • @wayneslain9444
      @wayneslain9444 3 роки тому

      Yeah I think I'll preorder mine in the next couple weeks myself...

    • @michaeldye2179
      @michaeldye2179 3 роки тому

      Did you get it yet?

    • @quintonwilliams8586
      @quintonwilliams8586 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaeldye2179 hell no was told they ship at end of june

    • @quintonwilliams8586
      @quintonwilliams8586 3 роки тому

      @@michaeldye2179 i just got mine shipped today after i called them.

    • @quintonwilliams8586
      @quintonwilliams8586 3 роки тому

      @@michaeldye2179 got mine yesterday took it to audio shop to get it swapped and it was slammin for 20min then it blew the 250a fuse. Cut van off put a 300a fuse in and when i started it the amp instantly shorted out and blew the 300a fuse along with it. I think something malfunctioned in the amp when the 250a fuse blew. Had it running at 1.4 ohms on 2 DD712s

  • @bbay1977
    @bbay1977 3 роки тому +3

    That is a sweet amp with specs like that. I'm just wondering how long it will hold up with daily use?
    I would love to see this amp in a hatch back and see how hard it will male the window breathe.

    • @chrisgraham2869
      @chrisgraham2869 3 роки тому +1

      I’ve ran mine for 9 months at 1 ohm daily and beat the hell out of it and it still running like a dream I’ve clamped it and it’s doing 4830 watts and never gets hot but you need good electrical it’s worth the investment

    • @bbay1977
      @bbay1977 3 роки тому

      @@chrisgraham2869 Thanks for the response. I was going to order one but backed out. Mainly because I couldn't really find any feedback on running them for long periods of time. I have just been using my old Rockford amp from way back in the day when they were called out for being cheater amps 😆. It's the Power Punch 200 Trans Ana amp. Its only wired in a 4 ohm, because I take long rides and it over heats if I were it at 2 ohms. What's crazy is I can sell that amp and buy one like this and put cash in my pocket as well cause they still hold value even being as old as it is. I will probably look for a collector some where so I can sell it local and buy this amp. I did run my wires already for this amp though. I will have to buy me a pair of subs for it though that will handle the 1 ohm.
      Thanks again for the feedback so now I can get this amp.

    • @12jazion
      @12jazion 2 роки тому

      @@bbay1977 I wouldn't trade a Rockford for Chinese garbage like CAB. My rockford amp is 14 years old and still runs perfect, I guarantee the same can't be said about CAB amps. The name is car audio bargain, it says cheap right in the name.

  • @charliefrancis6438
    @charliefrancis6438 3 роки тому +1

    My old ass Orion xtr 2250 would make 82 volts into a 2 ohm load , feeding them 17.8 volts no protect circuit, so ac voltage on the output is key to spl

  • @d77543020
    @d77543020 3 роки тому +1

    I'm pretty sure the power acoustic vertigo 10,000 is the exact same amplifier and it's 184 bucks

  • @justchillin7274
    @justchillin7274 3 роки тому

    Ive had a 1500 watt for some time now,, might look into this one as a upgrade

  • @girthquake9655
    @girthquake9655 3 роки тому

    I just bought one for my Sundown X15!

  • @zachhuffman9336
    @zachhuffman9336 Рік тому

    Did they discontinue the amp? I can’t find it on the website anymore

  • @julioavalos8502
    @julioavalos8502 2 роки тому

    Are these the same numbers with single run of power/grounds? I should correct if jot why it doesn’t have dual inputs?. I have one pushing to sundown sa 12s, sounds good but wonder it really getting them 2200 watts

  • @psementalist
    @psementalist 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent good video content 👏 👌 👍

  • @jasonc.ziegler9414
    @jasonc.ziegler9414 2 роки тому +1

    Been running two of these strapped at 1ohm final load, 0.5ohm per amp, on two American Bass XFL 10s and holy f#@k these are beast amps. The American Bass XFLs finally fell victim to the cab22's.....obviously lol. Thought I had an issue with one of my amps, opened the trunk and the foam surrounding on both subs was destroyed, both spiders on both subs ripped off the coils and tinsel leads broke. But damn they were POUNDING before the died. Ordered two recones today 🤗

    • @mattallen6234
      @mattallen6234 2 роки тому

      I've currently got the Elites and a single cab22. I just bought a 200ah agm battery yesterday from a friend and plan to build a box that seals the trunk off so I don't get any rattle. Next year I'm gonna get a 2nd cab22 and see how long the Elites would last lol

  • @brandonadams2303
    @brandonadams2303 Рік тому

    Going to run cab 22 on 2 skar svr 12's should be a great setup

  • @Caprice1977
    @Caprice1977 2 роки тому

    Was going to buy the Jp23 but this video made me change my mind ordering the Cab-22 now .I just think the JP23 is over priced.

    • @yootyler
      @yootyler Місяць тому

      Should I go with the jp23 or this one?

    • @Caprice1977
      @Caprice1977 Місяць тому

      @@yootylerI got a cab22 pushing a dd 9900 12” at 1 ohm and it bang hard so far it has not gone on protect that amp is about 2 yrs old and going strong still

  • @TheKenzaya
    @TheKenzaya 3 роки тому +1

    Ordering now!!

  • @paintman2020
    @paintman2020 3 роки тому

    Ive seen many jp23 but no one selling the cab 22 . The jp only put out like 35 more watts and is not .5 stable

  • @superchile9640
    @superchile9640 3 роки тому

    Is it still available? A lot of amps I see on any of the dyno channels are sold out after the video

    • @beardedforlife3740
      @beardedforlife3740 3 роки тому

      It's been sold out. I believe their website says mid January. You can still order one, just have to wait until then

  • @akuma4u
    @akuma4u 2 роки тому

    CAB 22 vs JP 23 1.5 which one is better?

  • @ResilientSounds276
    @ResilientSounds276 6 місяців тому

    Does this work with all amps?

  • @kenithsidney6880
    @kenithsidney6880 3 роки тому

    What kind of amplifier should I use on two sundown SA-12 SA-12 rev.3

  • @joshholden8561
    @joshholden8561 3 роки тому

    Wonder what sound better this cab 22 or taramp smart 3k

  • @jaynkelly739
    @jaynkelly739 3 роки тому

    WEN WILL U BE HAVE A WEARHOUSE MISTRY BOX SALE. CAN'T WAIT FOR IT. ALOHA FROM SUNNY HAWAI'I 🤙😎🤙😎

  • @steves313
    @steves313 3 роки тому

    how do you test it on full range amplifier can you do that test also please

  • @wayneslain9444
    @wayneslain9444 3 роки тому

    Any affiliate links or discounts?

  • @jaz97
    @jaz97 3 роки тому

    Been almost a year since this was done can anyone speak on how they held up?

  • @grady.stu.8300
    @grady.stu.8300 Рік тому

    This amp is only 2 yrs old? Didn't know that

  • @taurean2realnofilter523
    @taurean2realnofilter523 3 роки тому

    Are those Chinese or korean boards?

  • @cliffcarr1805
    @cliffcarr1805 2 роки тому

    I’m tryna choose between this or the D4S jp23… for $50 more dollars the the jp23 dynos a lil higher

    • @akuma4u
      @akuma4u 2 роки тому

      I heard that this amp is more efficient and cleaner sounding

  • @oSTYNCLSYo
    @oSTYNCLSYo 3 роки тому +2

    Why not let the test run longer than 5 sec?

    • @danfuller06
      @danfuller06 3 роки тому

      It goes to max power before clipping. So it shows you the clean power

    • @oSTYNCLSYo
      @oSTYNCLSYo 3 роки тому

      @@danfuller06 oh ok thank you.

  • @kaitlyncunningham2849
    @kaitlyncunningham2849 3 роки тому

    Anyone know if this is regulated or unregulated power supply?

  • @royupright2329
    @royupright2329 3 роки тому

    Awesome just awesome!!!!!!!!

  • @whoopdawg9907
    @whoopdawg9907 3 роки тому

    Is this a chinese or korean amp?

  • @Reno12366
    @Reno12366 3 роки тому

    Does this amp do half ohm

  • @kiwianthony3878
    @kiwianthony3878 3 роки тому

    But for people that's never gonna play test tones and demos. Just daily on music. Seems like dynamic matters

  • @SamuelHollandsh
    @SamuelHollandsh 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @chrishingleton3658
    @chrishingleton3658 3 роки тому

    2 zv5 15s... 1 cab 22 at .5 per sub 🤔🤔Think I'm finna try em out

  • @brian6029
    @brian6029 Рік тому

    Oh yeah!
    😎👍👍

  • @justforlaughs8988
    @justforlaughs8988 3 роки тому +2

    Screw the amp Dyno clamp that sucker with impedance rise to see what the actual numbers will be now that would be a real test!

  • @bradmeek
    @bradmeek 2 роки тому

    I guessed 48@0.5, 57 is insane

  • @lawr3nc3mann84
    @lawr3nc3mann84 2 роки тому

    i think i will give one a try

  • @christopherkeith5254
    @christopherkeith5254 3 роки тому

    Just placed an order for one.

    • @juanrico6141
      @juanrico6141 3 роки тому +1

      Did you receive it ?

    • @christopherkeith5254
      @christopherkeith5254 3 роки тому

      @@juanrico6141 yes, it just came in today.

    • @juanrico6141
      @juanrico6141 3 роки тому

      It takes quite awhile for shipping then . Im hesitate to order thats why I asked . please let me know what you think of the amplifier. Thanks

    • @christopherkeith5254
      @christopherkeith5254 3 роки тому +1

      @@juanrico6141 it shipped on Wednesday and made it here today. They were pre-ordered, that's why it took so long.

  • @silentbuccaneer4569
    @silentbuccaneer4569 6 місяців тому

    That looks like an old Nakamichi PA506

  • @brothergarysampsonjr67
    @brothergarysampsonjr67 3 роки тому +1

    2300 watts at 1ohm

  • @bygboie
    @bygboie 3 роки тому +1

    They are sold out of them already. That's what they're site says

    • @UnofficialAudio
      @UnofficialAudio  3 роки тому +3

      They will be back in stock soon. Current eta is 1st week of January.

    • @bygboie
      @bygboie 3 роки тому +1

      @@UnofficialAudio Whatvthe bass knob look like Derick didn't show it on the video ?

    • @bobbyackerson4125
      @bobbyackerson4125 3 роки тому

      @@bygboie regular bass knob ,metal case with a power and clip light

    • @volvojohn7191
      @volvojohn7191 3 роки тому +1

      So this amp has a clip indicator on the bass knob.

    • @bobbyackerson4125
      @bobbyackerson4125 3 роки тому

      @@volvojohn7191 yes power and clip lights

  • @skate1663
    @skate1663 3 роки тому

    I am absolutely fucking loving my CAB-22 seriously an awesome amp!!!

    • @12jazion
      @12jazion 2 роки тому +1

      Its been 11 months, how about now? Is it still working? Just wondering because my customer wants me to install them and they look like garbage.

    • @brianhager8874
      @brianhager8874 2 роки тому

      Yes.. my buddies is still working beating up a PSI level 4 15 like nothing

  • @toddhooks6758
    @toddhooks6758 3 роки тому

    Can it do .5 daily

    • @thomass9099
      @thomass9099 3 роки тому

      Foreal I’m thinking this or the new down4sound amp but now I’m thinking this but not sure yet lol

    • @charlieknoll1269
      @charlieknoll1269 3 роки тому +1

      This is the exact same amp as the power acoustic vertigo 10000

  • @unkowntrooper1657
    @unkowntrooper1657 3 роки тому

    Decent, I am one though I don't rely on that dybo much due to systems have rise so no one is going to literally be wiring at .5ohm and it doesn't rise. Nice little amp though wish these guys would stop playing though and make bigger boys.

  • @jmg5155
    @jmg5155 3 роки тому +1

    Most people don't hold 14.4v more like 12.5v

  • @waynejones4005
    @waynejones4005 3 роки тому

    The 1600.1 did 2279 at 1ohm it will never be better than the 1600

  • @brothergarysampsonjr67
    @brothergarysampsonjr67 3 роки тому

    1200 watts

  • @mikearmstrong2195
    @mikearmstrong2195 3 роки тому

    Can it push 2 skar evl 18s

  • @basslifexxl2391
    @basslifexxl2391 3 роки тому

    2960 burst

  • @jaynkelly739
    @jaynkelly739 3 роки тому

    2500 uncertified

  • @susanholliman3306
    @susanholliman3306 3 роки тому

    Outa stock

  • @basslifexxl2391
    @basslifexxl2391 3 роки тому

    .5 4830

  • @jaynkelly739
    @jaynkelly739 3 роки тому

    1725watts

  • @jaynkelly739
    @jaynkelly739 3 роки тому

    1500

  • @EcSsAwS
    @EcSsAwS 2 роки тому

    So much false info put out there.
    The only way your getting 68volt clean out of that amp. Is if your have 4 volt or HIGHER preout voltage
    You have fixed ohm loads. So you don't have impedance rise.
    A person with 2 volt isn't going to get anywhere near that on clean power
    Come on. Stop feeding this bullshit to the customer base

    • @UnofficialAudio
      @UnofficialAudio  2 роки тому +1

      If only there was some kind of adjustment on the amp to account for different input voltages, hmmm.....

  • @edwardculpepper2397
    @edwardculpepper2397 3 роки тому

    4326

  • @ccarpenter2k
    @ccarpenter2k 7 місяців тому

    These test are so stupid, nobody runs 14.4v in their vehicle but competitors
    Most runs for daily drivers + a battery is around 13.2-13.8v
    14.4 isn’t close to normal, so these are never real world test

  • @crustybass75
    @crustybass75 3 роки тому +2

    Looks like a salt knockoff

  • @basslifexxl2391
    @basslifexxl2391 3 роки тому

    .8 3878

  • @allmotorhash
    @allmotorhash 3 роки тому

    board = wolfram c2400

    • @bobbyackerson4125
      @bobbyackerson4125 3 роки тому

      Not even close to the c2400 buddy lmao. Do your research

    • @UnofficialAudio
      @UnofficialAudio  3 роки тому

      No

    • @bobbyackerson4125
      @bobbyackerson4125 3 роки тому

      @BASSNSANE looks similar too bad that's not doing anything close to the cab and that's a fact

    • @bobbyackerson4125
      @bobbyackerson4125 3 роки тому

      @BASSNSANE based on the truth,has the brand your pulling up ever been decent at all? The answer is NO

    • @akuma4u
      @akuma4u 2 роки тому

      Has anyone compared this amp to the c2400? Is there a huge difference in SQ/loudness and efficiency etc??

  • @12jazion
    @12jazion 2 роки тому

    So how exactly does a brand like Car Audio Bargain make a 2200 watt amp for 250 bucks? A comparable amp from a decent brand like Rockford Fosgate costs 2k, a JL Audio 1000 watt is around 1k, do CAB engineers have some magic that no one else does? Are the CAB engineers better than the millions invested in engineering by Rockford, Kicker, JL, Alpine, MTX, and all the other big brands out there? How is it that only these no name brand dirt cheap amps seem to spit out massive numbers on the amp dyno? Is that thing even remotely accurate? I have heard many amps like these and a 1k watt decent amp pounds way harder and sounds much cleaner than these bajillion gigawatt Chinese Cheapos. They can't even engineer a case that looks like they spent 5 minutes thinking about it so how do you expect them to bottle lighting inside it? How does it cool with over 2k watts flowing thru it, the heat sink is pathetic and it has no fans, the power terminals are casted out of pot metal, and nothing on that amp looks remotely quality. BTW, I have two of them at my shop right now and they look like trash, I was thinking of telling my customer to return them and get something decent but I will hook them up and see if they burn his car down.

    • @brianhager8874
      @brianhager8874 2 роки тому

      Hope All That Negative Didn't Consume You..haven't heard back 😂🤣

    • @12jazion
      @12jazion 2 роки тому +1

      @@brianhager8874 I installed them and they sound like garbage, that is why they are so cheap. They are a Chinese amp board that CAB bought on wish for 50 bucks and they put them in their own case. The sound quality is just terrible, the 4 channel has a high pitched whine even when the car is not running and the 4500 watt mono hits softer than a Rockford 1000 watt. I was not happy with them at all but my customer seems to like them, to each his own I guess.

    • @lsjess4147
      @lsjess4147 2 роки тому

      I’ve been wondering thanks for answering I’ll go with the Orion xtr amps instead even thought about the JP amps

  • @laska4075
    @laska4075 3 роки тому

    Bargain Beast

  • @Juggernaut-fg2up
    @Juggernaut-fg2up 3 роки тому

    Nice