9 Common Orchestral Composing Mistakes (And How To Fix Them)

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  • Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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    00:00​​​​ This works with any sample library
    00:16 Composing Mistake #1: Not using dynamics
    00:40 How to fix Mistake #1
    01:16 Composing Mistake #2: Poor velocities
    01:52 How to fix Mistake #2
    02:44 Composing Mistake #3: Overcomplicating
    03:46 How to fix Mistake #3
    04:52 Composing Mistake #4: Rigid timing
    05:33 How to fix Mistake #4
    06:30 Composing Mistake #5: Lack of articulations
    07:30 How to fix Mistake #5
    08:18 Composing Mistake #6: Low-quality samples
    08:53 How to fix Mistake #6
    10:22 Composing Mistake #7: Acoustic inconsistency
    11:11 How to fix Mistake #7
    12:31 Composing Mistake #8: No breathing pauses
    13:07 How to fix Mistake #8
    13:52 Composing Mistake #9: Ignoring mixing
    14:27 How to fix Mistake #9
    14:54 Bonus Mistake: Overusing presets
    15:29 How to fix Bonus Mistake
    16:07 Share your composing mistakes
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 48

  • @KevinKuschel
    @KevinKuschel  3 місяці тому +5

    Get your orchestral composing starter kit: www.becomeaprocomposer.com/starter-kit

    • @cesmcmyth
      @cesmcmyth 3 місяці тому

      Hey Kevin. totally 100% accurate list. but I would say this is not for beginners. this is for non-musical people trying to make music.. come on

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  3 місяці тому

      @@cesmcmyth What is a beginner?

  • @Lamberilio
    @Lamberilio Місяць тому +2

    Indeed, overcomplicating is a very common tendency to fall into. Sometimes it's just the good simple things that are missing

  • @tutengenezemuziki
    @tutengenezemuziki Місяць тому +2

    been BINGE watching this channel for 3 days....Awesome content

  • @Kadejones01
    @Kadejones01 3 місяці тому +3

    Great advice, Kevin. I still hear experienced composers forget to let wood and brass players breath.
    I think they're sometimes too used to playing awesome synths and piano.

  • @King.Mark.
    @King.Mark. 26 днів тому +1

    reslove and add the last note on the brass
    ,it hurt 😂 9:57

  • @5ammy13
    @5ammy13 3 місяці тому +2

    Hey Kevin, great tips for beginners. I think an important tip for beginners you missed would be how to handle reverb and how to make Samples from different libraries sit together in the same room. Early on in my music caterer my tracks sounded so weird and muddy, and finding the secret to correct reverb immediately made my music sound infinitely better.

  • @jenssieckmann
    @jenssieckmann 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Kevin, That's a nice lineup of composing mistakes. Hm, although, they are not only composing mistakes (like reverb). Dynamics, velocity, lack of articlulations and overcomplicating are my favorites.
    Nevertheless I would have mentioned a few other mistakes that are more important to me than rigid timing, reverb, no breathing pauses and ignoring mixing. There are for example strucuring motifs, themes, phrases, chord progressions, chord voicing (depending on instruments).
    There's surely room for a whole playlist of mistakes.

  • @gatorsaw3315
    @gatorsaw3315 3 місяці тому +6

    I will take this advice and never do this again. Great stuff

  • @MadHawkMoody
    @MadHawkMoody Місяць тому +1

    Hey, thanks for this list! This seriously helps!
    Also, in regards to loops, I never actually use them because they sound so.... uhhhh... fake? I personally enjoy having control over my own original rhythm!

  • @gilbo9576
    @gilbo9576 3 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for the video ! I manage to escape most of them but I'm full in the 3rd one ! I even LIKED your overcomplicated example... 😅

  • @phuphu3129
    @phuphu3129 3 місяці тому +2

    Looks like Kevin "Terminator" Kuschel ;) great stuff

  • @jmmm2703
    @jmmm2703 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks, great tips! I often struggle getting the dynamics right, or ignore them altogether...

  • @CraigRodmellMusic
    @CraigRodmellMusic 3 місяці тому

    In my opinion, one thing that takes away greatly from realism is using a scoring program for the sounds instead of a DAW. Myself, I do the composition using BBCSO Core in my DAW, and THEN I do the score in MuseScore. Or else, if I'm doing something for which the score already exists, I use that as the basis for what I do in my DAW.

  • @BenBerkenboschMusic
    @BenBerkenboschMusic 3 місяці тому +2

    Eyyyy you added the Jacob Collier 30/31 polyrhythm hahaha.
    Great video Kevin!! I think this video is immensely valuable for beginner composers 🔥

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  3 місяці тому +2

      My head's still spinning 😵‍💫

    • @BenBerkenboschMusic
      @BenBerkenboschMusic 3 місяці тому +1

      @@KevinKuschel after 500 tries trying to do the 30/31 polyrhythm, mine is still spinning as well

  • @javierestevez9680
    @javierestevez9680 3 місяці тому +1

    Great Kevin!

  • @johnhill762
    @johnhill762 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video, great advice

  • @luquesxannial2286
    @luquesxannial2286 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome stuff kevin! Thanks for the tips ❤

  • @joegrint6280
    @joegrint6280 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent advice - thanks!

  • @NieR6991
    @NieR6991 3 місяці тому +1

    I really love the way you explain things so clearly! I can also listen to you all day haha SO happy to have found your channel

  • @stepitup23
    @stepitup23 3 місяці тому

    awesome video

  • @StefanoMaccarelli
    @StefanoMaccarelli 3 місяці тому +1

    Great Video and True mistakes !

  • @devagarwal2222
    @devagarwal2222 3 місяці тому +3

    really need help with how to unlock dynamic scoring
    thanks

    • @BenBerkenboschMusic
      @BenBerkenboschMusic 3 місяці тому

      99% of the time you can edit the dynamics with CC01 / the modwheel. There's some libraries out there that don't have this recorded, often free ones, or solo strings, but the majority of sample libraries has these dynamics recorded.

  • @jlbpiano2673
    @jlbpiano2673 3 місяці тому +1

    Du ziehst zurzeit echt durch mit den Videos, dicken Respekt👍

  • @marcus_ohreallyus
    @marcus_ohreallyus 3 місяці тому +1

    Good stuff

  • @LidkaKAA
    @LidkaKAA 3 місяці тому

    I love your channel, very useful advice

  • @glynnhodgesmusic3140
    @glynnhodgesmusic3140 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Kevin. I have just subscribed to your channel. Some really great tips in this video. As an intermediate composer some channels are very difficult to follow and are complicated. You present clearly and very well. You mention mixing and mastering, have you an easy to comprehend video for this? Again, most channels are very difficult to follow on this subject. I am sure you would be much better. Thank you again.

  • @tregdemedia
    @tregdemedia 2 місяці тому

    I really appreciate you bringing all these tips into one video. These are all things I've sort of picked up here and there across composer UA-cam, but it's nice to be reminded of all of them in one place. My biggest issues are rigid timing and mixing!

  • @Roknix
    @Roknix 3 місяці тому

    Very good Video :). I often find myself writing the melody with only one articulation. Do you often use expression maps? How do you handle different latencies in different articulations?

  • @JohnnyADi
    @JohnnyADi 3 місяці тому

    I just bought pacific and the new strikeforce 2. I am now waiting for Vista 2 and pacific brass. Might buy a VSL piano vst or another drum vst like damage 2 or truestrike. Bad VSTs or improperly used, doesn't sound as good for things like classical or neoclassical.

  • @MBynum
    @MBynum 3 місяці тому

    As far as mic placement, should all my strings instruments have the same mic settings if I'm not doing solo lines? Example: tree mic at -5db and outriggers at 0db.

  • @jimmito823
    @jimmito823 2 місяці тому

    Hi man. Blessings. How much ram and specs is you system to work with this large film scoring templates in SO? Thanks. I am working on that.

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  2 місяці тому

      I am now at 128GB of RAM on a Ryzen 5900. 64Gb will also get you a very long way, though.

  • @Streamkiller1
    @Streamkiller1 Місяць тому

    Hi! Thank you for your lessons! Can you tell how to make it on cubase? ( mistake 5 ) How can i pick few midi keys and change them with different styles? i mean just like you did. Thank you!

  • @forgdtot9240
    @forgdtot9240 28 днів тому

    There is someone who make a video about kaboom anyone know his channel name?

  • @user-xz5mh2ev2e
    @user-xz5mh2ev2e 2 місяці тому

    10:48

  • @gooscomposer
    @gooscomposer 3 місяці тому

    I saw a video of a concert flautist, and she showed a technique, where woodwind player is storing some of the air in their cheeks to make this infinite breath

    • @sibe9613
      @sibe9613 3 місяці тому

      You probably mean circular breathing, which is also used when playing didgeridoos and zurnas, for example. This technique is possible with several woodwind and brass instruments.
      By the way: glass blowers also use circular breathing.

    • @gooscomposer
      @gooscomposer 3 місяці тому

      @@sibe9613 Yeah, I meant that. Thanks for correction

  • @gainsbourg66
    @gainsbourg66 3 місяці тому

    Using female choral samples in sustained unnaturally high range

    • @KevinKuschel
      @KevinKuschel  3 місяці тому

      AaaaaaAAAaAaaaAAahhh OoooOoOOoohhhhhhhhhh