Quick update to this one. I'm not even sure why this works but for whatever reason the Libertador Bayonet (Eva's) hits significantly harder than Black Bayonet with Charged Shots, despite Black having better stat damage and willpower scaling. And when I say significant, I mean 2161 with Black and 2688 with Lib.
It's due to Libertador having vastly higher mind scaling, The shot's scale with both mind and willpower, and weirdly only get's buffed from some buffs and not others(e.g Bridge to Glory give's no bonus to shot damage, but practically doubles the melee damage, while overdrive effects the shot damage and melee damage.), Another bonus for the Libertador is it's a lot lighter than the black bayonet meaning it gains a lot more damage from Swift destruction.
To add to this use Queen blood code, significant damage improvement over Artemis with the Libertador and also use the Ivory Grace line of Blood Veils as they have the highest combined Mind and Willpower scaling which gives the Lib a fat damage boost.
Also using bloodsucking blades with high willpower gives like 2-3 ichor a hit. It’s pretty insane how much it returns. I imagine it would be pretty wild with a devout weapon as well.
Noble Silver with Libertador stacking Mind/Willpower Up, Swift Destruction, and Bayonet Mastery. Using gifts Overdrive and Ranged Impact is such a nasty combo. I think it damages Dark Gift builds with less downtime.
I found a bayonet I wasn't even aware I had. It's charged shot is a flamethrower. Good damage, but I don't like how it locks you in place for the duration.
overdrive is rather incredibly difficult to use as you will take damage unless you've studied the boss patterns until muscle memory which at that point you've probably killed the boss already and gift extension is from Season pass....
Bayonet is my favourite weapon in the game, very versatile playstyle. I use it in my melee and gunner build, and mage build as well. Also, I'd suggest Eva's bayonet as well, although the damage is lower than Mia's one and I find the charge shot deal higher damage than Mia' one.
Aye the Libertador is honestly a beast of a bayonet, Unbuffed on either Queen code or Eos code I'm hitting 3.5k or 3.3k, that's prebuffed, easy to throw on some fairly decent buffs on either of those blood codes as well, Buffed it starts hitting up in the 6-7k range with just 2 buffs.
Harmonia is actually best class as you have acess to "Supernatural Blood" which trumps all kinds of DPS considering you can spam Fullsade and Charged shots. Io will just revive you if you die from casting too much for ~2000hp while the buff is still active.
FightinCowboy well maybe considering getting quick dodge on your dex build the lighter the gear the better the effect of the passive. I’m getting around 1k a hit with jack’s sword and quick dodge.(no buff) If u want to be a glass cannon may as well go full offensive with passives.
I've been using Ishtar for my bayonet build. I feel like its a class that is very underrated. Though my build is more light mage/bayonet. Its been workin out fairly well, but I'm also not to NG+ yet, I'm in the final dungeon.
Do you think White Mia's Gift Extension could make her a good partner? I was wondering that because it might lessen the need of midcombat rebuffing (by providing us w/ another buff slot, though I'm not sure if there's any good buff left) or perhaps help us conserve a good chunk of ichor. Thanks a lot for the guide btw.
Btw another great choice for this build. ISIS bloodcode is pretty close to Artemis damage wise and has better hp and defenses. A very solid caster/bayonet hybrid blood code.
you should swap your blood vale with an Ivory Grace/Snowy Elegance/Imperial Raiment Devour it has less defense and damage but since your going for drain it has higher drain at 1.35
Doesn't want to include venous claw into the build because it's a preorder bonus. Puts gift extension into the build even though you need to have the deluxe edition/season pass to get it...ok.
@timberwolf0001 Mad? I have access to those skills, but there's a clear discrepancy in his guide(s) and people who don't have the deluxe edition won't be able to take advantage of some of these tips. Quiet please, you look silly
I did some research and found out Gift Extention is only found on the Astrea Blood Code, which is obtained through the Season Pass. Is Astrea and the other DLC Blood Codes worth grabbing?
little input, "Gift Extension" is from the blood code ASTREA, so only the peoples who preordered the digital deluxe edition (or have the season pass) wil have the skill yet. btw, nice video ;P
His builds are so buff-heavy that they probably wouldn't work in a practical sense without Gift Extension, save for perhaps Cleansing Light abuse as that lasts a long time already. My friend and I run a dual "infinite life" combination when partnering for laughs and to save healing for the boss fight itself. Cleansing Light is so abusable.
hi cowboy! i love your let's play! also this video is very fun. but i have a question, what if i dont use all those buffs? can i get by with just a few of them? like the hp giveback and maybe a powerup buff only? would that be ok? currently i own a black bayonette and the gun that the blond girl uses.
This is basically what I've been looking for. One question though: Do you think I could work in a Stinger Blood Veil? I found out you can chain into the special drain from the shots; so you can fill and increase your ichor stock at range.
Is there a proper guide to the different bayonets anywhere? The wiki seems incomplete and doesn't really talk about the charged shot abilities. There are two things I want to know. Firstly, what different charged attacks are there? Currently I only have the Lost bayonet and the spread shot it uses is not very useful. Secondly, do they have different maximum ranges for standard shots? Someone told me they did. The Lost bayonet has ridiculously short range.
Basic gist is there's sniper and shotgun style bayonets. Shotgun do a short range spread shot when charged, snipers are long range single big hits. The flamethrower bayonet is unique, and so kind of ass tbh
Being able to switch blood codes makes it take almost no time. Especially having all the codes available. Only limiting factor is your own imagination.
FightinCowboy Are you enjoying this game more, now you’ve worked out all these builds?! As you said you preferred the surge 2 iirc?! Sorry if you’ve answered this elsewhere and I’ve missed it ☺️
are you sure using the fortification is worth it when you're going from quick to normal mobility? given that you're losing out on 10% damage because of the swift passive edit: nevermind they were different weapons
"I cant allocate stats when i level up, this game has no builds potential." Thanks for this, man. Really wanted to try a gunner build after a mage swordsman one.
....... the whole using life when its so easily taken by the mobs for small ups in attack seems counter productive = it leaves restarting from constant death as a easy thing when a few extra mins hitting slightly softer while holding on to life basically ensures 1 play through ... i'll take the security over the frustration sry.
@@logancordova530 no you dont it wont negate the loss from consecutive hits thats why its not a cheat aside from that on their 1st play through most ppl wont have that- its basically telling ppl to fail over and over because thats the road you took ...
@@alexispryde5415 this isnt a early game build for people, this is for tower of trials/new game plus since without these buffs on you you wont do the nesscary damage to kill the normal enemies. For me, just using blood sacrifice twice to get an extra 15 incher is worth it since I can just use a regen to get back to full health. Hell, most builds in the game require a ton of ichor, and using blood sacrifice is the least risky option since literally anything can 1 shot you the further in the game you go
@@logancordova530 1= it does not say that 2 it does not specify game time usage 3 it does not mean you wont do the nessessary damage otherwise larger weapons after near complete 1st play through do upwards 2 and 3k per hit the damage is not pairable as a gate . and finally my comment is my opinion it still has not and wont change - that is the reality of it and all those reasons you keep adding sound like but ... but .... but .... that it takes literally 2 seconds to look at to see its thin .... im a non-eleteist answers that fit and make sense without needless risk rule for me but then again i dont expect other people to also not look down their nose at people in deciding if something fits or not.
@@alexispryde5415 I mean I personally would rather shut down an enemy by using blood sacrifice for the buffs, but you do you if you want to fight enemies for a longer period of time, which increases your chances of taking unnecessary damage
Queen is when u save all of them lol. I got all 4 endings. Didnt get queen from kill all. Nake sure to restore all 4 successor memories and ios. Edit: comment belows correct I thought you asked for the Queens blood code instead of the the queens body part codes
Man I don't know where did you learned playing this Game, but I can't understand how you play it like this ? I'm able to one skill shoot Bosses with my Build and I'm on NG+ with 9★. And if I play vs mops, even this is no problem bec., with the Skill 2-3 mops will die. So a Blood Trap with mops is no problem. It's a nice idea from you, but not even close to be good enough. At least my opinion.
You're probably using the wrong bayonet. Some bayonets have a big charged shot, others do a shotgun type blast. The big charged shots have pretty good range, the shotgun ones have pitiful range.
I use thorns/ivy veil instead: FREE ICHOR with minimum risk. Nice corner idiot. shame if I already saw that trick before. (SHING!) (+2 Ichor). By the time I reach the boss I have 50 full ichor ready to unleash hell on the poor sod at the end.
Quick update to this one. I'm not even sure why this works but for whatever reason the Libertador Bayonet (Eva's) hits significantly harder than Black Bayonet with Charged Shots, despite Black having better stat damage and willpower scaling. And when I say significant, I mean 2161 with Black and 2688 with Lib.
It's due to Libertador having vastly higher mind scaling, The shot's scale with both mind and willpower, and weirdly only get's buffed from some buffs and not others(e.g Bridge to Glory give's no bonus to shot damage, but practically doubles the melee damage, while overdrive effects the shot damage and melee damage.), Another bonus for the Libertador is it's a lot lighter than the black bayonet meaning it gains a lot more damage from Swift destruction.
For the venous claw veil do we upgrade it to devour? And you're basically saying that's the best veil to use if you have it correct?
To add to this use Queen blood code, significant damage improvement over Artemis with the Libertador and also use the Ivory Grace line of Blood Veils as they have the highest combined Mind and Willpower scaling which gives the Lib a fat damage boost.
Also using bloodsucking blades with high willpower gives like 2-3 ichor a hit. It’s pretty insane how much it returns. I imagine it would be pretty wild with a devout weapon as well.
Noble Silver with Libertador stacking Mind/Willpower Up, Swift Destruction, and Bayonet Mastery. Using gifts Overdrive and Ranged Impact is such a nasty combo. I think it damages Dark Gift builds with less downtime.
I found a bayonet I wasn't even aware I had. It's charged shot is a flamethrower. Good damage, but I don't like how it locks you in place for the duration.
You get it by beating the Canoneer and the blade bearer btw
Loved the showcase against the boss at the end. Mostly because you and Eva got into a pretty funky rhythm hitting the boss at one point.
overdrive is rather incredibly difficult to use as you will take damage unless you've studied the boss patterns until muscle memory which at that point you've probably killed the boss already and gift extension is from Season pass....
But If you shoot from afar you can get some hits in without talking damage, also If you get hit It recharges super fast
Bayonet is my favourite weapon in the game, very versatile playstyle. I use it in my melee and gunner build, and mage build as well. Also, I'd suggest Eva's bayonet as well, although the damage is lower than Mia's one and I find the charge shot deal higher damage than Mia' one.
Same Libertador is a beast on a mage build
@@russianFB7442 i'd say it depends on ur build
@@les8947 Is using the bayonet in the mage build is good?
@@kobayashi69 sword or bayonet, either wil works, it just depends on which kind of movestyle you like
Aye the Libertador is honestly a beast of a bayonet, Unbuffed on either Queen code or Eos code I'm hitting 3.5k or 3.3k, that's prebuffed, easy to throw on some fairly decent buffs on either of those blood codes as well, Buffed it starts hitting up in the 6-7k range with just 2 buffs.
Charge accelerator and time crunch stack, increasing the speed of charge shots even further.
Started watching since Dark souls and I'm glad I'm here for Code vein 🤣🤣
dude a full walkthrough with this build would be so cool
Harmonia is actually best class as you have acess to "Supernatural Blood" which trumps all kinds of DPS considering you can spam Fullsade and Charged shots. Io will just revive you if you die from casting too much for ~2000hp while the buff is still active.
Broooo, your vids are hella nice. Keep up the good work.
Will you be making a Melee/Ranged bayonet hybrid build?
Cant wait for the drunk through
Now using
EOS
Same build but +overdrive and libertador, doing 5600dmg.
Also do different passive,
Bayo mastery, 2 willpower increase and mind/vit
Ooh, that weapon looks awesome. It has a Scythe-looking bayonet blade on a big-ass rifle. I hope this is a good weapon, as I might roll with this.
Been waiting for this one
Oh no, I don't wanna recommend late game Items
Proceeds to recommend a Season Pass Gift
at last! first Gunner build I see so far
and this is basically my build too lol
guess gunner didn't have many option like other build
I opted out of tirelessness and lucid mind since I can just use consumables to do the same effect.
Loving these builds
Ok "_"
Swift destruction also works well with one handed sword, considering putting it into your dex build
Tried to fit it but needed the other passives more
FightinCowboy well maybe considering getting quick dodge on your dex build the lighter the gear the better the effect of the passive. I’m getting around 1k a hit with jack’s sword and quick dodge.(no buff) If u want to be a glass cannon may as well go full offensive with passives.
Doesn't matter if you pre ordered or not on Xbox you can still buy the pre order items (least on Xbox)
GG cowboy appreciate the builds
I've been using Ishtar for my bayonet build. I feel like its a class that is very underrated. Though my build is more light mage/bayonet. Its been workin out fairly well, but I'm also not to NG+ yet, I'm in the final dungeon.
Do you think White Mia's Gift Extension could make her a good partner?
I was wondering that because it might lessen the need of midcombat rebuffing (by providing us w/ another buff slot, though I'm not sure if there's any good buff left) or perhaps help us conserve a good chunk of ichor. Thanks a lot for the guide btw.
wow nice i figured out builds for the other weapons but could not figure out what to do whit the gun. ima try this out
Gift extension is also a dlc Code Though
Btw another great choice for this build. ISIS bloodcode is pretty close to Artemis damage wise and has better hp and defenses. A very solid caster/bayonet hybrid blood code.
you should swap your blood vale with an Ivory Grace/Snowy Elegance/Imperial Raiment Devour it has less defense and damage but since your going for drain it has higher drain at 1.35
this is the bayonette build i use
Blood Code - Queen
Weapon 1 - Bayonette Devour
Weapon 2 - Libertador Fortification Intensification
Blood Veil - Ivory Grace/Snowy Elegance/Imperial Raiment Devour
Passives - Swift Destruction/Bayonet Mastery/Mind+Willpower/Charge Accelerator
Actives - Bloodsucking Blades/Valiant Heart/Time Crunch/Cognitive Zeal/Gift Extention/Blood Sacrifice/Ranged Impact/Overdrive
How are you hitting from so far away I feel like I'm always inside the great weapon range
This what im looking for
Can you list which blood code each passive/active comes from?
Any options for gift extension if you dont have season pass?
Doesn't want to include venous claw into the build because it's a preorder bonus. Puts gift extension into the build even though you need to have the deluxe edition/season pass to get it...ok.
@timberwolf0001 Mad? I have access to those skills, but there's a clear discrepancy in his guide(s) and people who don't have the deluxe edition won't be able to take advantage of some of these tips. Quiet please, you look silly
(Most aggressive) i believe the gilded warrior is the most aggressive
I now understand why I never see people using a gun build.
Update: this kinda slaps.
Like to see a Venom, Stun, & stealth build plz XP
I did some research and found out Gift Extention is only found on the Astrea Blood Code, which is obtained through the Season Pass.
Is Astrea and the other DLC Blood Codes worth grabbing?
You can get mias bayonet pushing out 25 k damage In a half melee/ gift combo its fuckin nuts
little input, "Gift Extension" is from the blood code ASTREA, so only the peoples who preordered the digital deluxe edition (or have the season pass) wil have the skill yet. btw, nice video ;P
Yeah I forgot to mention it here. Build works without it but it does help a ton having everything extended
His builds are so buff-heavy that they probably wouldn't work in a practical sense without Gift Extension, save for perhaps Cleansing Light abuse as that lasts a long time already. My friend and I run a dual "infinite life" combination when partnering for laughs and to save healing for the boss fight itself. Cleansing Light is so abusable.
hi cowboy! i love your let's play! also this video is very fun. but i have a question, what if i dont use all those buffs? can i get by with just a few of them? like the hp giveback and maybe a powerup buff only? would that be ok? currently i own a black bayonette and the gun that the blond girl uses.
But Harmonia has a A+ in Will Power
which blood code is cleansing light from?
What gifts would you suggest for a more balanced bayonet build with mias bayonet? The amount of options in this game has been frying my brain.
oh. I mean balanced like between melee and shooting/buffing.
This is basically what I've been looking for. One question though: Do you think I could work in a Stinger Blood Veil? I found out you can chain into the special drain from the shots; so you can fill and increase your ichor stock at range.
How do you chain into the stinger drain?
you can get 2 Brodiaeas in 1 playthrough
Is there a proper guide to the different bayonets anywhere? The wiki seems incomplete and doesn't really talk about the charged shot abilities.
There are two things I want to know. Firstly, what different charged attacks are there? Currently I only have the Lost bayonet and the spread shot it uses is not very useful.
Secondly, do they have different maximum ranges for standard shots? Someone told me they did. The Lost bayonet has ridiculously short range.
Basic gist is there's sniper and shotgun style bayonets. Shotgun do a short range spread shot when charged, snipers are long range single big hits. The flamethrower bayonet is unique, and so kind of ass tbh
@@FightinCowboy The flamethrower sucks? Even with the grenade mode I see it has?
It eats ichor like a fat kid at a buffet and for the amount of damage you're getting it's not very good.
@@FightinCowboy Why do people making games nearly 100% of the time ruin flamethrowers for everyone?
@@DGneoseeker1 Far Cry 3 flamethrower will always be my favorite.
Have just watched all your build vids, how long does it take for you to come up with/work them out Cowboy?
Being able to switch blood codes makes it take almost no time. Especially having all the codes available. Only limiting factor is your own imagination.
FightinCowboy Are you enjoying this game more, now you’ve worked out all these builds?! As you said you preferred the surge 2 iirc?! Sorry if you’ve answered this elsewhere and I’ve missed it ☺️
What about ivory grace instead of night claw?
just this question: is it fun to play with this build y'all?
Definitely, just takes time and progression to get it going. I recommend bringing yakumo, for his foul blood barrier.
how far should i be in the game to build that? is it possible to get it at like 50% of the game progresion?
No fulsilade rondo?
Running the same weapon, is there a way to distinguish devour from fortify?
Not by appearance on the weapon itself. All you get is the little icon.
is bridge to glory not possible with your set up?
Sadly i can't use noble silver when i use astrea .
I meant artemis
venom build?
How do you get that gun spinner gesture ?
What if we cant use Gift Extension because we dont have the season pass?? Can we play without it or is there any replacement?
You can play without it, just more annoying having to reapply buffs
still early game has anyone found a way tin increase range of bayonet shot or is it rifle dependant
Shot range is bayo dependant some are a shotgun charge, some are more for sniping
I was gonna try caster but now gonna switch to this to nuke bosses
What would be a good substitute for gift extension?
There really isn't one, you either have it or you dont
are you sure using the fortification is worth it when you're going from quick to normal mobility? given that you're losing out on 10% damage because of the swift passive
edit: nevermind they were different weapons
is there a difference between hunting feat and bloodsucking blades?
Hunting is just you, BSB is you & partner. BSB also scales off Dark as opposed to Light
Bloodsucking blades also gives you more drain rate
Where do you get gift extension ?
Season Pass
"I cant allocate stats when i level up, this game has no builds potential."
Thanks for this, man. Really wanted to try a gunner build after a mage swordsman one.
....... the whole using life when its so easily taken by the mobs for small ups in attack seems counter productive = it leaves restarting from constant death as a easy thing when a few extra mins hitting slightly softer while holding on to life basically ensures 1 play through ... i'll take the security over the frustration sry.
All you have to do is use a regen and you get all of that hp back though?
@@logancordova530 no you dont it wont negate the loss from consecutive hits thats why its not a cheat aside from that on their 1st play through most ppl wont have that- its basically telling ppl to fail over and over because thats the road you took ...
@@alexispryde5415 this isnt a early game build for people, this is for tower of trials/new game plus since without these buffs on you you wont do the nesscary damage to kill the normal enemies. For me, just using blood sacrifice twice to get an extra 15 incher is worth it since I can just use a regen to get back to full health. Hell, most builds in the game require a ton of ichor, and using blood sacrifice is the least risky option since literally anything can 1 shot you the further in the game you go
@@logancordova530 1= it does not say that 2 it does not specify game time usage 3 it does not mean you wont do the nessessary damage otherwise larger weapons after near complete 1st play through do upwards 2 and 3k per hit the damage is not pairable as a gate . and finally my comment is my opinion it still has not and wont change - that is the reality of it and all those reasons you keep adding sound like but ... but .... but .... that it takes literally 2 seconds to look at to see its thin .... im a non-eleteist answers that fit and make sense without needless risk rule for me but then again i dont expect other people to also not look down their nose at people in deciding if something fits or not.
@@alexispryde5415 I mean I personally would rather shut down an enemy by using blood sacrifice for the buffs, but you do you if you want to fight enemies for a longer period of time, which increases your chances of taking unnecessary damage
How do I get the queen codes? Is it apart of the heirs ending?
You get Queen codes when you defeat Sucessor bosses in the story.
@@CatalystCosmos I've already finished the game but I don't have the queen codes
@@LeveledRogue So Just Walk Away? Then u get the codes like ribcage etc?
@@izxiya1439 Yup.
Queen is when u save all of them lol. I got all 4 endings. Didnt get queen from kill all. Nake sure to restore all 4 successor memories and ios.
Edit: comment belows correct I thought you asked for the Queens blood code instead of the the queens body part codes
Man I don't know where did you learned playing this Game, but I can't understand how you play it like this ?
I'm able to one skill shoot Bosses with my Build and I'm on NG+ with 9★. And if I play vs mops, even this is no problem bec., with the Skill 2-3 mops will die. So a Blood Trap with mops is no problem.
It's a nice idea from you, but not even close to be good enough.
At least my opinion.
Wierd flex, but ok
Good for you lol
@@ObiSol Yeah right ?
Any problem here ?
is there a way to make the shots get more range? in the lets play I noticed the spells were more viable as range support/attacks
You're probably using the wrong bayonet. Some bayonets have a big charged shot, others do a shotgun type blast. The big charged shots have pretty good range, the shotgun ones have pitiful range.
@@FightinCowboy gotcha, thanks for the tip.
Ok so I just gotta get farther in da game.definitely tryin this out cuz Im mainly usin da buster sword but I wanna shoot mfers too lol
Did you up the difficulty if so?
He didn't.
@@Soluscide no wonder his enemy's are so ez
@@Soluscide I upped my difficulty and I regret it.
I use thorns/ivy veil instead: FREE ICHOR with minimum risk. Nice corner idiot. shame if I already saw that trick before. (SHING!) (+2 Ichor). By the time I reach the boss I have 50 full ichor ready to unleash hell on the poor sod at the end.