My first Hare scramble actually wasn't absolute blast. I only completed one lap and then I literally passed out pretty much LOL. but nonetheless, I was stoked to have done at least one lap! going to do my second race tomorrow and hoping to do 2 to 3 laps or however many I can do until the time is up. my goal is to just stay in it until the end
Haha I should have watched this before I started them. My first hare scramble last year I pulled off after second lap... Literally went back to the truck and collapsed on the grass, and everything was spinning lol. Keep at it and you'll move up the classes and progress a lot as a rider!
Oh believe me I know all too well I almost died a couple times after a race hahah you definitely have to have endurance I been at it for 3 yrs now and moved up to B class its even harder and more challenging its like starting at the bottom all over again
Hahaha yea some ppl have zero issues and have the time of their life .I was not one of the lucky ones .getting thrown to the wolves and not knowing anything is just stressful. Thank you for sharing
I wish you luck consistent and steady wins the race I'm not sure how hare scrambles are in South Africa they can be totally different rules terrain and competition so take my information with a grain of salt ..good luck you got this and most importantly have fun
I did my first harescramble at like 55. It's been a couple years now since the last one I did. Cracked the front rim of my KTM and broke a shifter fork so did the entire third lap stuck in third gear along with a flat front tire. Rekluse clutch saved my bacon. I will race in the over 60 class now. Lining up on the starting line is really neat. Bunch of freaking nut jobs like myself. We all appreciate being able to still race.
Wow thats some dedication to finish the race ..yea ill admit at the starting line my nerves are always jumping until the 1st 2 turns then its go time .glad to hear you are back racing hopefully we have a race season in 2021
Hey Ben, you are 100% correct!! Can’t wait for the 2019 season to get going too bad I already missed round 1 for NETRA.. doing these harescramble races has made me a much better rider and decision making is much faster and less second guessing.. I’m having a blast out there!!!!
Bimmere that’s awesome. I’ve definitely notice my riding skill and reaction times being much improved since started racing .i got my feet wet last yr with 4 races but I will be all in this season. How long have you been racing ?
Awsome good luck lmk how you like it ..remember the 1st few races are going to suck ..but its gets more fun after that stick with it and you will be surprised how quickly you advance in your riding abilities
I have my first race this Sunday with only 6 hours of seat time of experience. I’ll record it and let you ya know what I think. Thanks for all of the help and motivation.
Thanks Ben...your advice was helpful. I'm going to Blue Slopes on the 14th as my first race. I'm 51 and won't be exactly on a "race bike" So, I'm going in with the goal of finishing the race and experiencing that this is all about. Hopefully, enjoying some good off-road riding. But I'm still a little nervous ...I don't want to be one of those "goombas" on the track...lol
Pains rides awsome I'll be there as well .looks like a super easy fun race nothing too technical. You can see the track layout on UA-cam .. I was so nervous my 1st 2 races as well but it will get easier each time ..I will probably be a bit nervous as well this time because I have a new bike and havnt ridden at all since last yr .if you see may come say hi cant miss me on the blue and florecent yellow Yamaha.#222. .good luck man ride safe and most importantly have fun ...it does get easier every race you enter so dont get discouraged..
@@gsxrstyle ... I don't have my # yet(just got my NETRA membership done yesterday) but I'll be on probably the only Pitster Pro in the race.... so keep an eye out for me and wave when you lap me ..lol See ya there :)
@Pain’s RIdes Hey bro what did you think about the blue slope race and how did u make out? I thought that would be an easy one but boy was I wrong ..what a mud fest ..the lines to enter are never that crazy it was a huge turn out
@@gsxrstyle ...Between the lines. disorganization and the awful track. I won't be racing again. To make things worse, while I was loading one of my straps came loose and the handguard went through my truck's rear window :( .. I should have known better...I bought the Pitster for fun riding, which none of that was yesterday, it or me has no business racing. From now on I'm going to be taking it to the local areas I have on Wednesdays(my half-day at work) and on an occasional NETRA Turkey Run.
Nice post Broski, thank you for taking time to make it. I did 2 a few years ago, cursed my friends out when I finished, torture on the body and didnt help I was on a KTM 530EXCR 250lbs dry. 1st was in CT on the older gentleman's property the last race before he passed and they developed it, 2nd was Tuxedo NY. I'm back in it! Just registered but broke my foot at STRATTON 2 weeks ago, see you on May 7th. Are you still racing, what class? Ed
Thanks for the nice comment yes I am still racing though took a small step back after breaking my collarbone twice . I'm just getting old and brittle at this point hahah ..sorry to hear about your foot that's rough . I'm not sure if I'll make the 1st race .I think that is blue slope I still have my bike all torn apart and doing much needed maintenance and powder coating .I'm not the biggest fan of blue slope anyways hahaha. But you'll definitely see me out there my new race number is 777 my bike is black and white with Fluorescent yellow . I'm racing in the afternoon since last season in B vet ..good luck and I'll see ya out there
@@gsxrstyle Ha! I’m 50 at the end of May, I need to stupid Shït more carefully now. Probably sit out Blue Slope, give my foot a few more weeks of healing. Might be in the market for a WR or XCW if you hear anything in the coming months. Good Lick on your rebuild. ✌🏼 Ed
@Edward Griswold thank you ...I'll keep an ear out. Yea take some time and heal up Ed. From what I hear 50 is the new 30 hahah. It doesn't matter how old men get we always have to test the laws of physics and age 😆
You made some good points. I made a attempt at a race 2 years ago and I was so rattled that I forgot to turn off my choke haha. So yes it's very nerve rattling. I hope to redeem myself this year. I live in Louisiana and we start on the bike also around here. I have subbed you and looking forward to watching your races. Stay safe
Yea it would be nerve racking for any new racer just starting out lol not the best feeling ..glad you are getting back on the Sattle .I subbed to your channel as well look forward to seeing your races .I will be posting mine this yr as well good luck in 2019 race season
@@caseymurphy2648 Check LACC facebook page out and find a race closest to you. Reason is youre going to be dead tired just from the nerves that you wont feel like a long drive afterwards haha. Pick your age group and race beginner. I am 54 so I race the 40+ beginner. When you go to race make a checklist because you will forget the smallest thing. When you race dont go and expect to compete against others instead go with a goal of finishing. One lap puts you on the board then go for lap two and so on. You will run across some sandbaggers who should be racing in other classes and it will make you feel like you arent good enough to race but dont let your mind go there, just race your race. My race video will show I was being lapped by everyone almost and I was breathing as if I was having a child, be prepared because that will probably be you too haha. But even at my slow pace and all I still wasnt last and there was a lot who DNF which means did not finish. I ride Claiborne a lot so if you wanna talk in person and ride hit me up. Stay safe
@@Tankerman Use to race back in the 70's. There was a group of us from Ville Platte and Claiborne was our practice ground. Also Claiborne is where I ended my racing career with a few broken bones. Not sure if yu know where the ravine is when you come out of the woods but ther is where I went in head first doing about 35 mph. I'm now in NY and just bought a Beta 20RR and getting back into riding after 42 years off. At 68 it sure is different but I just out and enjoy trail riding. It is a blast once you go out a few times. Just practice practice & practice. Not only will you ride better but you'll learn a lot about your bike. Enjoy & be safe
@@joesoileau990 Good for you getting back out on the trails. I have more fun trail riding over racing but I will do one once every couple years just for a chuckle.
Ben. Old video. But good video. I think you should do another video talking about seat pressure and traction. Pretty normal for every newer rider to hold the bike on the limiter while pushing/walking, blowing massive rust. Folks….sit down!!!! Get some weight on that rear tire. If you’re caught in a deep rut, at least put a knee on the seat. You have got to weight the rear tire to get traction. It’s never more important than when stuck. And it’s never more abused than when stuck.
@@gsxrstyle yeah I watched your season ending fight for championship video too. Even though we (Indiana)are only into our second race I’m stealing your line yelling “championship” 😂 every time I need by someone. I’m a pretty big goof ball but very competitive. I think I’m gonna start yelling “I’ll crash both of us dude”😂
@Realtalk hahaha I so regret saying championship like that watching the video I realized how annoying it was 🤣 I think tensions were just high because it was the race for 1st place and it was anyone's race between us 2 . Even though I won the QST place championship that race I had it ripped away from me through the biggest bs protest from 3 or 4 races prior that changed the out come months later .I'm still butthurt lol 😆 so close yet so far .I like the idea of yelling out ill crash us both hahaha that's a much better call sighn. My 1st race is this weeknd but not sure if I'll go just finishing up the rebuild on my bike and havnt ridden in atleast 6 months
Great advice, looking to do my first later this year and a full season next year. Been a while since I last rode. Trying to get in great shape! Looking at a 250 2t or 300 2t. Any opinion between the two bikes?
to be honest 250 xc is is perfect for harescrambles .300 ove ridden a few and I just feel then are more then what you need .especially when you get tired you can whiskey throttle very easy ..im also a pretty light guy at 165lbs
@@gsxrstyle great to hear! I’ve been leaning towards the 250 because of feedback from people like you saying 300 wears them out too much. One thing tad worried about is the tractor like chug up a hill or easy torque to pop a wheel up and get over a log, but I assume with a little practice the 250 will be able to do it just as well. Flip side is others say 250 is tad more nimble and flowy. Way Easier to ride after 1-2 hours. I think 250 it is!
@worldwide1873 personally for the hare scrambles I loved my 150 it felt like riding a mt bike and didn't tire me out nearly as much as let's say my 250 four stroke . I understand it's a bit underpowered for most ppl .but I assure the 250 is very capable and snappy to pop over obstacles. my buddy went from a 250 to a 300 and he went back to a 250 and loves it and is doing great . he said for what we do it's more power then he needs and yes fighting all the power for long period of time really wears you out in a race and forget about it if you drop the bike and have to pick it up lol. that will suck the soul right out of you. alot of ppl race the 300 but you really can't even use it to it's capability atleast here in the North east racing netra or p27 etc. if I had it my way I'd go to 125 if I started racing again lol. I had the most fun on the smaller bore and felt I did the best. I know everyone is different along with perspective. but you really can't go wrong with the 250
@@gsxrstyle thanks for the feedback. Good story about your buddy. Makes me wonder how much of the 300 hype is influenced by the pros using 300s a lot.. Answers my question for sure! Can’t go smaller than 250 because it needs to do little bit of everything since it’ll be my only bike for at least a few years. and I’ll be going to track/trails with my son, but my love is Trails and I think will be hare scrambles as well. Really appreciate all the good info! Thanks
😂😂😂🤦♂️ Fernando usually always beats me I have good starts but gas out after the 1st lap or so then he makes his move after he catches the 2nd wind .its funny because when I 1st met him I was beating him ..then tables turned after I bought the yamaha yz250fx he would spank me every time.bike was much too heavy for me and He got really good fast ..but now I feel comfortable on my new machine and things are definitely going to get more even this season 🏆
Hey Ben I used to ride a lot when I was kid. I’m 33 now and been riding a decent amount. Does the NETRA / AMA membership only go calendar year to year? BTW thanks for the video I’d been thinking about trying hare scrambles out and this video is motivation to check it out more. Hopefully I can get the memberships/paperwork figured out and get out there. Seems there’s no serious bike requirements? FWIW I currently am on a 2004 KDX200. Certainly not a motocross bike but suits me well. I’m curious what (if any) classes I’d be able to ride as it’s not vintage and not a 125 or 250.
Hi don thanks for your comment .I am 35and currently race in the C-vet class i like that class because any size motor goes ..instead you get to race with ppl 30 yrs of age + i cant keep up with those young bucks out there i cant get hurt I've got bills to pay ..the kdx is a capable bike I strongly suggest stiffnimg the suspension ..I know that bike is limited on adjustments ..but its much too soft at higher speeds for netra in my opinion. Join netra talk on fb they just posted the 2021 season calender .and yes you will need to pay every yr to keep the membership .I will be making a revision of this video soon seeing I was very new to racing when I made this but the video is still accurate for new racers thanks for watching
My first race i finished two laps before my clutch able broke and I had to pull out. Second race is coming up on sunday my goal already is just to finish
That's great man ..but crappy you didnt get the chance to see how youed finish if not for mechanical failure...atleast now you find of know what to expect going forward. I will be racing also on sunday hopefully I dont crash after the 1st turn like last race 😂 good luck and lmk how you make out
An hour befor the race is optimistic the organisers could have up to 500 or more riders to deal with you have to be dressed ,fed bike has to be scrutineer'd matbt even a quick medical ,you have in some cases a sight lap ,GET there early ..regardless of your class not to mention the obibligatory or not pre race toilet its all time queues etc ..
Are you new to riding dirtbikes in general ? Or did you have past racing experience in earlier yrs? They have a senior or super senior class that you could start out in
Honestly the most important training is just seat time I used to think because I was fit from lifting weights I'd be good at hare scrambles I felt like my stamina would be on Par. Man was I wrong ..the fact is nothing can substitute for seat time your body just conditions for riding for long periods of time with no breaks try riding for 1.5 hrs with little to no breaks and riding through arm pump safely to build stamina. It wouldn't hurt to hit the treadmill or elliptical at the gym to help but like I said nothing can sub for seat time the reason I know this is because my 1st 2 yrs of racing I was pretty jacked and what I thought in shape even did alot of cardio but I was still getting my arss handed to me but scrawny kids and females 😅. The difference between them and me they had seat time muscle memory stamina from yr after yr of them racing and riding .last yr was my best race yr even though I'm way out of shape I gained a belly and lost muscle from not going to the gym because of my own silly depression. I had the most racing stamina I've ever had my body was just used to the 1.5 hrs of brute netra had to offer .but now I've got bummed up to B class I will have to add another 30 min to my race times .hopes this helps I plan on making a video about what foods to eat before races and things to do to help with arm pump soon
@@gsxrstyle don't feel silly about your depression! its treatable and requires guts to tackle. Hope you are feeling better now that its almost time to ride again! Thanks for the video. You gave some great takes on racing hare scrambles.
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My first Hare scramble actually wasn't absolute blast. I only completed one lap and then I literally passed out pretty much LOL. but nonetheless, I was stoked to have done at least one lap! going to do my second race tomorrow and hoping to do 2
to 3 laps or however many I can do until the time is up. my goal is to just stay in it until the end
did you race in the Netra series? ..its all about endurance and pacing yourself.
Haha I should have watched this before I started them. My first hare scramble last year I pulled off after second lap... Literally went back to the truck and collapsed on the grass, and everything was spinning lol. Keep at it and you'll move up the classes and progress a lot as a rider!
Oh believe me I know all too well I almost died a couple times after a race hahah you definitely have to have endurance I been at it for 3 yrs now and moved up to B class its even harder and more challenging its like starting at the bottom all over again
Absolutely 100% great knowledge!!!! My first hare scramble was an absolute nightmare!!!! Richardson's Farm 2022....still recovering
Hahaha yea some ppl have zero issues and have the time of their life .I was not one of the lucky ones .getting thrown to the wolves and not knowing anything is just stressful. Thank you for sharing
I’m from South Africa entering my first hare scramble in two weeks. Thanks for the tips.
I wish you luck consistent and steady wins the race I'm not sure how hare scrambles are in South Africa they can be totally different rules terrain and competition so take my information with a grain of salt ..good luck you got this and most importantly have fun
Thanks for the video! Great tips, took it all in. Preparing for my first race next weekend here in Michigan. Self inflicted punishment, can’t wait!🤘🏻
Douglas Trimner should be a good time good luck. I have a race on Sunday I’m hoping to get some video up soon
I did my first harescramble at like 55. It's been a couple years now since the last one I did. Cracked the front rim of my KTM and broke a shifter fork so did the entire third lap stuck in third gear along with a flat front tire. Rekluse clutch saved my bacon. I will race in the over 60 class now. Lining up on the starting line is really neat. Bunch of freaking nut jobs like myself. We all appreciate being able to still race.
Wow thats some dedication to finish the race ..yea ill admit at the starting line my nerves are always jumping until the 1st 2 turns then its go time .glad to hear you are back racing hopefully we have a race season in 2021
I’m looking to do my first harescramble this summer at 51. Hell with it, I’m not getting any younger! I’ll be thrilled just to finish.
Hey Ben, you are 100% correct!! Can’t wait for the 2019 season to get going too bad I already missed round 1 for NETRA.. doing these harescramble races has made me a much better rider and decision making is much faster and less second guessing.. I’m having a blast out there!!!!
Bimmere that’s awesome. I’ve definitely notice my riding skill and reaction times being much improved since started racing .i got my feet wet last yr with 4 races but I will be all in this season. How long have you been racing ?
BAMF_Ben_Allen I hope the weather this season doesn’t turn out like 2018 season and have a mud fest
@@Bimmere I have a feeling only a few races out of the yr have minimal mud 😂 but yea even tho mud is my strength in racing it was havoc on the ktm
Great advice thanks Ben
Thank you !
Thanks for the tips buddy. I’m looking to do my first race this year.
Awsome good luck lmk how you like it ..remember the 1st few races are going to suck ..but its gets more fun after that stick with it and you will be surprised how quickly you advance in your riding abilities
I just practiced a lot for my 85cc senior class I just did my first race yesterday and won! This video definitely helped a lot thanks
Oh wow congratulations that's awsome .I'm glad it helped . do you plan to video any future races?
Unfortunately I do not have a go pro but I will try to have my dad record me as much as he can and make a UA-cam channel
@@westover9218 cool man .hopefully I can start posting my videos at some point when I buy a new computer
I have my first race this Sunday with only 6 hours of seat time of experience. I’ll record it and let you ya know what I think. Thanks for all of the help and motivation.
Awsome man good luck glad I could help
Thanks Ben...your advice was helpful. I'm going to Blue Slopes on the 14th as my first race. I'm 51 and won't be exactly on a "race bike" So, I'm going in with the goal of finishing the race and experiencing that this is all about. Hopefully, enjoying some good off-road riding. But I'm still a little nervous ...I don't want to be one of those "goombas" on the track...lol
Pains rides awsome I'll be there as well .looks like a super easy fun race nothing too technical. You can see the track layout on UA-cam .. I was so nervous my 1st 2 races as well but it will get easier each time ..I will probably be a bit nervous as well this time because I have a new bike and havnt ridden at all since last yr .if you see may come say hi cant miss me on the blue and florecent yellow Yamaha.#222. .good luck man ride safe and most importantly have fun ...it does get easier every race you enter so dont get discouraged..
@@gsxrstyle ... I don't have my # yet(just got my NETRA membership done yesterday) but I'll be on probably the only Pitster Pro in the race.... so keep an eye out for me and wave when you lap me ..lol
See ya there :)
@@painsrides3616 will do ...give em hell on the pister pro 💪
@Pain’s RIdes Hey bro what did you think about the blue slope race and how did u make out? I thought that would be an easy one but boy was I wrong ..what a mud fest ..the lines to enter are never that crazy it was a huge turn out
@@gsxrstyle ...Between the lines. disorganization and the awful track. I won't be racing again. To make things worse, while I was loading one of my straps came loose and the handguard went through my truck's rear window :( ..
I should have known better...I bought the Pitster for fun riding, which none of that was yesterday, it or me has no business racing. From now on I'm going to be taking it to the local areas I have on Wednesdays(my half-day at work) and on an occasional NETRA Turkey Run.
Nice post Broski, thank you for taking time to make it. I did 2 a few years ago, cursed my friends out when I finished, torture on the body and didnt help I was on a KTM 530EXCR 250lbs dry. 1st was in CT on the older gentleman's property the last race before he passed and they developed it, 2nd was Tuxedo NY. I'm back in it! Just registered but broke my foot at STRATTON 2 weeks ago, see you on May 7th. Are you still racing, what class? Ed
Thanks for the nice comment yes I am still racing though took a small step back after breaking my collarbone twice . I'm just getting old and brittle at this point hahah ..sorry to hear about your foot that's rough . I'm not sure if I'll make the 1st race .I think that is blue slope I still have my bike all torn apart and doing much needed maintenance and powder coating .I'm not the biggest fan of blue slope anyways hahaha. But you'll definitely see me out there my new race number is 777 my bike is black and white with Fluorescent yellow . I'm racing in the afternoon since last season in B vet ..good luck and I'll see ya out there
@@gsxrstyle Ha! I’m 50 at the end of May, I need to stupid Shït more carefully now. Probably sit out Blue Slope, give my foot a few more weeks of healing. Might be in the market for a WR or XCW if you hear anything in the coming months.
Good Lick on your rebuild. ✌🏼
Ed
@Edward Griswold thank you ...I'll keep an ear out. Yea take some time and heal up Ed. From what I hear 50 is the new 30 hahah. It doesn't matter how old men get we always have to test the laws of physics and age 😆
You made some good points. I made a attempt at a race 2 years ago and I was so rattled that I forgot to turn off my choke haha. So yes it's very nerve rattling. I hope to redeem myself this year. I live in Louisiana and we start on the bike also around here. I have subbed you and looking forward to watching your races. Stay safe
Yea it would be nerve racking for any new racer just starting out lol not the best feeling ..glad you are getting back on the Sattle .I subbed to your channel as well look forward to seeing your races .I will be posting mine this yr as well good luck in 2019 race season
Hey tankerman. I'm in Louisiana and wanting to start doing harescrambles. What is your recommendation?
@@caseymurphy2648 Check LACC facebook page out and find a race closest to you. Reason is youre going to be dead tired just from the nerves that you wont feel like a long drive afterwards haha. Pick your age group and race beginner. I am 54 so I race the 40+ beginner. When you go to race make a checklist because you will forget the smallest thing. When you race dont go and expect to compete against others instead go with a goal of finishing. One lap puts you on the board then go for lap two and so on. You will run across some sandbaggers who should be racing in other classes and it will make you feel like you arent good enough to race but dont let your mind go there, just race your race. My race video will show I was being lapped by everyone almost and I was breathing as if I was having a child, be prepared because that will probably be you too haha. But even at my slow pace and all I still wasnt last and there was a lot who DNF which means did not finish. I ride Claiborne a lot so if you wanna talk in person and ride hit me up. Stay safe
@@Tankerman Use to race back in the 70's. There was a group of us from Ville Platte and Claiborne was our practice ground. Also Claiborne is where I ended my racing career with a few broken bones. Not sure if yu know where the ravine is when you come out of the woods but ther is where I went in head first doing about 35 mph. I'm now in NY and just bought a Beta 20RR and getting back into riding after 42 years off. At 68 it sure is different but I just out and enjoy trail riding. It is a blast once you go out a few times. Just practice practice & practice. Not only will you ride better but you'll learn a lot about your bike. Enjoy & be safe
@@joesoileau990 Good for you getting back out on the trails. I have more fun trail riding over racing but I will do one once every couple years just for a chuckle.
Thank you very much, great information appreciate the video.
Ben. Old video. But good video. I think you should do another video talking about seat pressure and traction. Pretty normal for every newer rider to hold the bike on the limiter while pushing/walking, blowing massive rust. Folks….sit down!!!! Get some weight on that rear tire. If you’re caught in a deep rut, at least put a knee on the seat. You have got to weight the rear tire to get traction. It’s never more important than when stuck. And it’s never more abused than when stuck.
Great comment and advise on a new video I will look into that seeing I have more yrs under my belt racing now thank you
@@gsxrstyle yeah I watched your season ending fight for championship video too. Even though we (Indiana)are only into our second race I’m stealing your line yelling “championship” 😂 every time I need by someone. I’m a pretty big goof ball but very competitive. I think I’m gonna start yelling “I’ll crash both of us dude”😂
@Realtalk hahaha I so regret saying championship like that watching the video I realized how annoying it was 🤣 I think tensions were just high because it was the race for 1st place and it was anyone's race between us 2 . Even though I won the QST place championship that race I had it ripped away from me through the biggest bs protest from 3 or 4 races prior that changed the out come months later .I'm still butthurt lol 😆 so close yet so far .I like the idea of yelling out ill crash us both hahaha that's a much better call sighn. My 1st race is this weeknd but not sure if I'll go just finishing up the rebuild on my bike and havnt ridden in atleast 6 months
Great advice, looking to do my first later this year and a full season next year. Been a while since I last rode. Trying to get in great shape! Looking at a 250 2t or 300 2t. Any opinion between the two bikes?
to be honest 250 xc is is perfect for harescrambles .300 ove ridden a few and I just feel then are more then what you need .especially when you get tired you can whiskey throttle very easy ..im also a pretty light guy at 165lbs
@@gsxrstyle great to hear! I’ve been leaning towards the 250 because of feedback from people like you saying 300 wears them out too much. One thing tad worried about is the tractor like chug up a hill or easy torque to pop a wheel up and get over a log, but I assume with a little practice the 250 will be able to do it just as well. Flip side is others say 250 is tad more nimble and flowy. Way Easier to ride after 1-2 hours. I think 250 it is!
@worldwide1873 personally for the hare scrambles I loved my 150 it felt like riding a mt bike and didn't tire me out nearly as much as let's say my 250 four stroke . I understand it's a bit underpowered for most ppl .but I assure the 250 is very capable and snappy to pop over obstacles. my buddy went from a 250 to a 300 and he went back to a 250 and loves it and is doing great . he said for what we do it's more power then he needs and yes fighting all the power for long period of time really wears you out in a race and forget about it if you drop the bike and have to pick it up lol. that will suck the soul right out of you. alot of ppl race the 300 but you really can't even use it to it's capability atleast here in the North east racing netra or p27 etc. if I had it my way I'd go to 125 if I started racing again lol. I had the most fun on the smaller bore and felt I did the best. I know everyone is different along with perspective. but you really can't go wrong with the 250
@@gsxrstyle thanks for the feedback. Good story about your buddy. Makes me wonder how much of the 300 hype is influenced by the pros using 300s a lot.. Answers my question for sure! Can’t go smaller than 250 because it needs to do little bit of everything since it’ll be my only bike for at least a few years. and I’ll be going to track/trails with my son, but my love is Trails and I think will be hare scrambles as well. Really appreciate all the good info! Thanks
@worldwide1873 no problem good luck with your choice be safe and enjoy the trails
Great video! Thank you so much!
Thank you
What is the key to beating Fernando? And have you ever resorted to throwing banana peels to get a better start?
😂😂😂🤦♂️ Fernando usually always beats me I have good starts but gas out after the 1st lap or so then he makes his move after he catches the 2nd wind .its funny because when I 1st met him I was beating him ..then tables turned after I bought the yamaha yz250fx he would spank me every time.bike was much too heavy for me and He got really good fast ..but now I feel comfortable on my new machine and things are definitely going to get more even this season 🏆
@@gsxrstyle you were flying on the TE Sunday! Next stop Bluesloppy! Lets hope it is dry this year!
Hey Ben I used to ride a lot when I was kid. I’m 33 now and been riding a decent amount. Does the NETRA / AMA membership only go calendar year to year? BTW thanks for the video I’d been thinking about trying hare scrambles out and this video is motivation to check it out more. Hopefully I can get the memberships/paperwork figured out and get out there. Seems there’s no serious bike requirements? FWIW I currently am on a 2004 KDX200. Certainly not a motocross bike but suits me well. I’m curious what (if any) classes I’d be able to ride as it’s not vintage and not a 125 or 250.
Hi don thanks for your comment .I am 35and currently race in the C-vet class i like that class because any size motor goes ..instead you get to race with ppl 30 yrs of age + i cant keep up with those young bucks out there i cant get hurt I've got bills to pay ..the kdx is a capable bike I strongly suggest stiffnimg the suspension ..I know that bike is limited on adjustments ..but its much too soft at higher speeds for netra in my opinion. Join netra talk on fb they just posted the 2021 season calender .and yes you will need to pay every yr to keep the membership .I will be making a revision of this video soon seeing I was very new to racing when I made this but the video is still accurate for new racers thanks for watching
My first race i finished two laps before my clutch able broke and I had to pull out. Second race is coming up on sunday my goal already is just to finish
That's great man ..but crappy you didnt get the chance to see how youed finish if not for mechanical failure...atleast now you find of know what to expect going forward. I will be racing also on sunday hopefully I dont crash after the 1st turn like last race 😂 good luck and lmk how you make out
An hour befor the race is optimistic the organisers could have up to 500 or more riders to deal with you have to be dressed ,fed bike has to be scrutineer'd matbt even a quick medical ,you have in some cases a sight lap ,GET there early ..regardless of your class
not to mention the obibligatory or not pre race toilet its all time queues etc ..
😆 to the toilet ...that's so true though .. them nerves will get ya everytime
I know there is a 96db sound restriction but is a spark arrestor required?
No spark arrestor needed for the ne netra races ..
And look at you now...Rippin!
Hahah thanks man I wouldnt say ripping but definitely learned a thing or 2 with time and experience
What about a 70 year old starting a race?
Are you new to riding dirtbikes in general ? Or did you have past racing experience in earlier yrs? They have a senior or super senior class that you could start out in
What kind of training to get fit did you do?
Honestly the most important training is just seat time I used to think because I was fit from lifting weights I'd be good at hare scrambles I felt like my stamina would be on Par. Man was I wrong ..the fact is nothing can substitute for seat time your body just conditions for riding for long periods of time with no breaks try riding for 1.5 hrs with little to no breaks and riding through arm pump safely to build stamina. It wouldn't hurt to hit the treadmill or elliptical at the gym to help but like I said nothing can sub for seat time the reason I know this is because my 1st 2 yrs of racing I was pretty jacked and what I thought in shape even did alot of cardio but I was still getting my arss handed to me but scrawny kids and females 😅. The difference between them and me they had seat time muscle memory stamina from yr after yr of them racing and riding .last yr was my best race yr even though I'm way out of shape I gained a belly and lost muscle from not going to the gym because of my own silly depression. I had the most racing stamina I've ever had my body was just used to the 1.5 hrs of brute netra had to offer .but now I've got bummed up to B class I will have to add another 30 min to my race times .hopes this helps I plan on making a video about what foods to eat before races and things to do to help with arm pump soon
@@gsxrstyle don't feel silly about your depression! its treatable and requires guts to tackle. Hope you are feeling better now that its almost time to ride again! Thanks for the video. You gave some great takes on racing hare scrambles.
@@seller2001 thank you .I take it 1 day at a time 🙏