M*CARBO Ruger LCP MAX Trigger Spring Kit and Short Stroke Flat Trigger Upgrade - How To Install

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @marktelep5856
    @marktelep5856 Рік тому +35

    I did this upgrade using the 12-pound hammer spring. I got light strikes with the 10-pound (red). My trigger pull is 4 pounds down from 7 pounds! Way more accurate at the range. Well worth the cost and time!!!!!!!

    • @B2the4th
      @B2the4th Рік тому +3

      Just swapped out the 10 pound hammer spring for the 12 pound hammer spring for the same reason. I was averaging at least 1 light strike per magazine at the range. Hoping the 12 pound spring resolves this issue.

    • @kristopherhiser4967
      @kristopherhiser4967 Рік тому +3

      @@B2the4th Did the 12 lb resolve it? I started with the 10lb, but I also get light strikes.

    • @B2the4th
      @B2the4th Рік тому +2

      @@kristopherhiser4967 Yes I've ran about 3 boxes of ammo through it with the 12lb and not one light primer strike. With the 10lb I couldn't make it through a magazine without a light primer strike. Go with the 12

    • @kristopherhiser4967
      @kristopherhiser4967 Рік тому +3

      @@B2the4th Thank you! I could shoot my defensive ammo with the 10lb, but I could not make it through a single mag of FMJ with the 10lb. I swapped to the 12lb last night. Haven't had a change to test yet.

    • @B2the4th
      @B2the4th Рік тому +1

      @@kristopherhiser4967 Shouldn't have any more issues with it. My philosophy on ammo is I want a gun that will shoot almost anything I put in it. (Russian steel ammo is the exception) Never know when you'll find yourself in a situation and Magtech FMJ is all you got.

  • @richardjohnson4238
    @richardjohnson4238 2 місяці тому +2

    I just purchased a used LCP Max. When I got it home I noticed the trigger had an MC on the left side. It never occurred to me that it was a M*Carbo trigger until later, even though I had installed a couple of kits into other guns myself. Must be the 12# spring. The trigger breaks right at 4 pounds even almost every time, and the gun shoots like a champ. Whoever installed it did a good job.

  • @Automaticjack1
    @Automaticjack1 2 місяці тому +2

    LCP Max- I installed the new trigger and 12lbs spring kit today as instructed. Was fairly easy to follow the video. Love the 4.5lbs pull, the short reset, and the short trigger prep, no finger pinch. Shot about 75 rounds of 4 different types of ball and JHP ammo. Worked flawlessly. Not a single hiccup. Much more accurate with the lighter (but not too light) trigger pull weight. Happy.

  • @tampabayspearfishing5297
    @tampabayspearfishing5297 Рік тому +29

    Love these install videos done by the creators of the products! You guys go the extra mile for us.

  • @FuriousMess
    @FuriousMess 9 місяців тому +3

    The MCARBO upgrades (all of them) are worth every penny of their investment cost. The trigger and spring kit is a MUST have. I used the 12 lb return spring and it's perfect for a carry gun in the pocket. Their quality parts are worth every penny for the improvement they provide.

  • @ottokittel709
    @ottokittel709 Місяць тому +2

    nice content! purchased ruger lpc max 75 th anniversary model for ultra lite pocket carry. the stainless slide was a great up grade for rust and corrosion in hot sweaty Florida beach carry. I added stainless guide rod and 13 pound recoil spring, and I dis liked the ruger aluminum trigger that came on the little gun. Replaced with mcarbo trigger and heaver spring with trigger pull just under 5 pounds which is minimum for a pocket mouse gun for me. end results was stainless slide and plastic grip, not much can rust except the pins, and springs, that were treated with frog lube. I have shot this very small mouse gun at 15 yards with 10 shot in 6 inch circle with zero hiccups. solid carry piece when the 9mm its too big in a shirt pocket!

  • @Scolecite
    @Scolecite Рік тому +5

    Used this video to install the entire suite of M-Carbo upgrades for the LCP MAX. No issues. Shoots much better now.

  • @B2the4th
    @B2the4th Рік тому +5

    When you say hold onto those springs you weren't kidding. My Takedown Pin Dent spring is no longer with me lol. Called Ruger to order another one and they hooked me up no charge! That's customer service I can get behind right there!

    • @TheWilferch
      @TheWilferch Рік тому +4

      For later......take guns apart with the gun inside a gallon-size clear zip-lock bag. A spring that goes flying is then found in the bag........

    • @afwaller
      @afwaller 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TheWilferchuse a jumbo 3 gallon bag much easier

  • @johnr.2786
    @johnr.2786 Рік тому +8

    Just completed install on the new trigger and thanks so much for the tutorial. Very methodical, easy to follow and great tips on the do's and don'ts for the install. I am a novice and could not have done this without the video. Job well done and many thanks!

  • @Matt_justlikethat
    @Matt_justlikethat 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the very detailed video. I ordered the trigger kit, spring kit and the new contact rod and spring.
    I replaced All the polymer parts along with the striker spring a pin, contact rod and spring. Polished the barrel ramp and the partial ramp at the top of the magazine housing/lower 1/2 of pistol.
    👍👍👍

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 Рік тому +8

    Another great trigger kit & great video from MCarbo. As always perfect photography and easy to understand instructions.

  • @mi_cheap_guns2925
    @mi_cheap_guns2925 Рік тому +6

    Looks like a very well thought out trigger and spring kit. I’m definitely interested. Those sound suppressed hammer springs are pure genius!

    • @snapshotdod
      @snapshotdod Рік тому +1

      Definitely love the stuffed springs, not a big fan of the twang when dryfiring.

    • @mi_cheap_guns2925
      @mi_cheap_guns2925 Рік тому

      @@snapshotdod I’m with you. I think I sold my old LCP2 simply because of the sound when dry firing. I think Ruger should steal their idea.

  • @sylviacandler5541
    @sylviacandler5541 Рік тому +2

    I just got back from the rifle range. Due to the 10 lb hammer spring and upgrade on the trigger, I cut the group size in half, nothing short of incredible! Thank you Mcarbo!

  • @sylviacandler5541
    @sylviacandler5541 Рік тому +2

    I bought it and installed it with the help of this Video, and I HIGHLY RECOMMENT the upgrades!

  • @jowpopper790
    @jowpopper790 Рік тому +3

    Before installing the roll pin for the firing pin take the 1/16" punch and check your hole is clear. I did not do this and the roll pin dinged the edge of the firing pin. The ring was enough to cause light strikes. I had to disassemble and file the ding out.

  • @vtxdaryl
    @vtxdaryl 6 місяців тому +1

    Can’t wait til my Max comes in. Great video, you make it look so easy but I can follow this video easily, thanks for an excellent tutorial.

  • @poultrydish
    @poultrydish 8 місяців тому +2

    Attempting to install this caused much headache and nail scratching. Not your guys' fault. I wish I knew how frustrated I'd be when attempting to bend and remove the hammer spring, removing the firing pin, and then reassembling it all back. I ended up not installing it. Pity.
    Edit: Ok, I went back and decided to give it a go again. I finally installed it. My fingertips are sore but it's finally done.
    A new level of respect for gunsmithers.

  • @michael5619
    @michael5619 6 місяців тому

    Popped a hammer spring seat pin dropping an unloaded one upon checking a retention holster, thanks for the thorough process, saved me a lot of aggravation.

  • @mi_cheap_guns2925
    @mi_cheap_guns2925 Рік тому +5

    Just got this trigger and spring kit delivered yesterday, looking forward to attempting the install. Thank you for the video! I don’t know about the 10lbs hammer spring, maybe a 12 and 14 would have been a little more practical for this type of handgun. I love a good three pound trigger, but not sure in your front pocket is the place for it. Just my two cents. Keep up the good work!

    • @mi_cheap_guns2925
      @mi_cheap_guns2925 Рік тому

      @@CompShooter54 I did buy their trigger and the spring kit, but haven’t installed it yet. Definitely going to go with the heavier hammer spring when I install it. I always think there’s a balance between pull weight and action/travel of the trigger, I usually carry something with a 5-6 pound trigger with a fair amount of pre travel and a slightly longer reset. I’m not the biggest fan of a manual safety on a carry gun, unless it’s a single action only gun. I’ve had a lot of pocket 380’s over the years, but strangely haven’t had a Bodyguard. A palm size gun with a long DAO trigger that breaks at 9 lbs sounds pretty tough to shoot accurately. Is that the case?

  • @joserafa03
    @joserafa03 Рік тому +1

    Wow ! This really is an outstanding installation video ! Very detailed and well explained and the visual aspect is just perfect ! In addition your description step by step and your reasoning about the order of the installation is not only logical but it complements the “timing” of the whole installation ! Just like a perfect narrative or a “thriller” if I may say so ! Thank you a lot Marc ! I subscribed immediately !

  • @Matt_justlikethat
    @Matt_justlikethat 4 місяці тому

    Thanks…. Replaced trigger a spring kit, contact rod an spring, new take down pin. On my LCP max anniversary….

  • @frankjfritz8842
    @frankjfritz8842 Рік тому +2

    I did the install . Made a world of difference, but it is going in the safe, it's still no fun to shoot and in my opinion not a huge enough difference in concealability to replace my Hellcat or HK P30 SK . Really good instructional video. Thanks

  • @matthewlongfellow5965
    @matthewlongfellow5965 11 місяців тому

    I just installed these into mine, it is the best investment you can make! Absolutely makes a good gun, a great gun! I'd recommend the 12lbs spring if you intend this for carry.

  • @MLZ1957
    @MLZ1957 10 місяців тому

    What a great Video! I did exactly what you said and it worked well. The trigger pin was a challenge because of my fat fingers!
    I also added tritium rear sights and a Veridian red laser to the trigger guard. All set now. Thanks a million.

  • @codyjenn8785
    @codyjenn8785 Рік тому +3

    Thank you mcarbo for the awesome video

  • @WisSota_Boy
    @WisSota_Boy Рік тому +3

    Pretty cool upgrade! Might have to pick it up.

  • @jonasschmitz506
    @jonasschmitz506 9 місяців тому +1

    So I have a really hard time with the hammer spring, my solution was using the old hammer spring as a hook, way easier.

  • @JohnVHLife
    @JohnVHLife Рік тому +1

    Good timing, just ordered these parts!

  • @regality78
    @regality78 11 місяців тому

    You go pretty fast on the parts installation but it worked for me. Thanks. Range time is next.

  • @PreyofBird
    @PreyofBird 6 місяців тому

    Amazing difference. However, did get one light strike out of 30 rounds fired with the 12lb spring. The spring also rings after dry firing as well

  • @floydblack7115
    @floydblack7115 Рік тому +2

    Love the lcp max

    • @marktelep5856
      @marktelep5856 6 місяців тому

      The LCP Max is my summer shorts go-to gun!!!!!!! I use only Critical Defense ammo for my 380 and 9mm guns 😮

  • @BubbaBigDude
    @BubbaBigDude Рік тому +5

    Ok M*CARBO we need a better magazine release spring for the MAX.

  • @adrianlouviere7650
    @adrianlouviere7650 Рік тому

    Super Video! The BEST I have seen. THANKS!!!

  • @lesteradams3830
    @lesteradams3830 Рік тому +1

    Did the full install and got light primer strikes with the 10 pound trigger spring. E-mailed Mcarbo but no response yet. Installed 12 pound spring and will try again. Mcarbo trigger is pretty nice though.

    • @B2the4th
      @B2the4th Рік тому

      Just swapped out the 10lbs for the 12lbs for the same reason. Hoping that resolves the issue. I'm sure it will.

  • @anthonyyowzer
    @anthonyyowzer 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey, guys! So I installed everything and it feels great but I'm curious, when dry fire training, after I fire, my laser stays on like the firing pin is still engaged. I tested the laser and the firing pin and both seem to return to regular position on their own but then when I reassemble the gun, it does the same thing. Is this ok?

  • @jamessnook602
    @jamessnook602 11 місяців тому +4

    I put the 12lb spring in because people saying 10 lb gave light primer strikes.. out of 48 rounds I had 10 failure to fire due to light strikes.. putting the stock spring back in.. was a waste of money for me

    • @MCARBO
      @MCARBO  10 місяців тому

      Hello, we are sorry to hear that. Was the M*Carbo firing pin spring used? As our hammer spring has to eb used with the M*Carbo firing pin spring.

    • @OliGrant-sw8by
      @OliGrant-sw8by 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for your HONESTY about these products. When 99% of comments are a bunch of rants and raves it makes me skeptical like they’re paid for their reviews or employees of the company or something 👀🐸☕️

    • @bryantartus
      @bryantartus 7 місяців тому +1

      I do not want to change the spring, but do you advise upgrade the trigger? I just got the Ruger LCP Max Anniversary edition, and read that the stock trigger is pinching fingers. can I do the trigger and leave the factory spring? thanks!

  • @Dmounts
    @Dmounts 10 місяців тому

    most helpful video out there. thank you.

  • @lens7859
    @lens7859 Рік тому +14

    I have the Max and I can’t stand the noise when you dry fire it. Sounds like a toy

    • @ShukriTawil
      @ShukriTawil Рік тому +1

      Don't dry fire it too much broke mine like that

    • @lens7859
      @lens7859 Рік тому

      @@ShukriTawil oh crap

    • @mi_cheap_guns2925
      @mi_cheap_guns2925 Рік тому +1

      Totally with you, thought that the first time I pulled the trigger on the older LCP2 years back. The design of their new hammer springs to cancel that sounds is pure genius!

    • @internetabyss
      @internetabyss Рік тому +2

      The red or blue coating is stopping the vibration. That means you can make any hammer spring anti vibration with just a little coating.

  • @lens7859
    @lens7859 Рік тому

    Nice job ! Thanks
    Going into my gun maintenance collection!

  • @imdrrich
    @imdrrich Рік тому +1

    A great video - thank you!

  • @randomgamer-st1ie
    @randomgamer-st1ie 6 місяців тому

    Broke the hammer spring cap. Little plastic tab is almost broken and has no retention now. I hope Ruger will sell me a new one. Damn thing just falls off now.

  • @Chef-James
    @Chef-James Місяць тому

    My blade safety is sticking. Right hand left hand, tip or joint. Sticks on occasion. Will this trigger help? I'm ok with the heavy pull. Does the trigger need the spring kit to function correctly?

  • @randomgamer-st1ie
    @randomgamer-st1ie 7 місяців тому

    Any problem with just installing the trigger with all the factory springs? I'm just fixing a trigger safety issue on my 75th Anniversary model. Locks out the trigger accidentally at random. Not sure if all the spring kits are needed.

  • @nebraskashow3982
    @nebraskashow3982 4 місяці тому

    I have a question about pin down I just I perched the pin heavy duty from Mcarbo so whene I go to the range I noticed the pin star come out do you have any idea because I just contact them they said send me the pin back but I ask you that question do you notice that the pin from Mcarbo has the same issue with the pin like from ruger factory why the pin come out when the star shooting

  • @hillbillync655
    @hillbillync655 9 місяців тому

    I just did this install and have totally lost all feel and sound on the reset. I let the trigger slowly creep forward after dry firing and can't tell when it's ready to go again. Any ideas? Used the 12lb spring and the supplied firing pin spring as well as the Mc trigger shoe.

  • @lens7859
    @lens7859 Рік тому

    Sorry, also wanted to thank you for reading the trigger pull scale Correct. Most if not all of the other UA-cam’ers say 3 POINT 1 2 instead of 3 pounds 12 ounces. Bothers me, lol .

  • @Johan_Pentrose
    @Johan_Pentrose Рік тому

    Removing the trigger pin for the safety blade did not go so well. I used a block with very light hammer blows until I needed to hit it a little harder.....the stock trigger broke off. Oh well I didn't need it anyway right!

  • @SALMANDER33
    @SALMANDER33 2 місяці тому

    If i want the least amount of pre travel can i just remove the screw entirely?

  • @caleb6680
    @caleb6680 Рік тому +2

    I’m debating just using the 12 lb spring kit with the stock trigger. I like having the longer pull of the stock trigger on an EDC but would like the lighter trigger for accuracy. It seems like a good compromise between accuracy and safety. Thoughts?

    • @ryanpeck3377
      @ryanpeck3377 11 місяців тому +1

      I believe with the new trigger set all the way in it would be close to same as original pull length, and you could try to adjust the travel, maybe something slightly shorter would be long enough for that saftey margin but also an improvment on the overal feel

  • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
    @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 8 місяців тому

    Hey Mcarbo make some non tritium (so we can file off as needed) shorter aftermarket front sights for this crappy POA POI garbage pistol, thanks ! 👍

  • @armadon161
    @armadon161 7 місяців тому

    Question for anyone who has the trigger. Does setting the pretravel change where the trigger breaks compared to OEM or does it just change where the pressure starts? (Wanting a crisper break with very little creep, yes I understand its a precocked hammer and will have some creep)

  • @mi_cheap_guns2925
    @mi_cheap_guns2925 9 місяців тому

    From the comments it sounds like if you’re going to practice with lower powered FMJ, probably should stick with the 12 lbs hammer spring.

  • @FF-wt8lw
    @FF-wt8lw Рік тому

    I'm getting one of this LCP max soon Do I really need to upgrade it or is it fine the way it is???been reviewing/watching about this..before getting one.

    • @timothyglasscock3649
      @timothyglasscock3649 8 місяців тому

      It's fine imo, the upgrades will make it easier to shoot. The flat trigger is just a matter of preference, same with pretravel. The hammer spring makes a difference for sure.

  • @littlevillagepythons9636
    @littlevillagepythons9636 Рік тому

    Great looking kit Do people use this on their carry guns or range toys only

    • @peterv1318
      @peterv1318 Рік тому +1

      I wouldn’t for carry

    • @guitarthrasher81
      @guitarthrasher81 Рік тому

      @@peterv1318 but of noobie here can you explain why not? I thought adding the trigger and 12lb spring would help increase accuracy and overall trigger comfort why is that bad for carry

    • @peterv1318
      @peterv1318 Рік тому

      @@guitarthrasher81 - as long as it still has the drop safety. But trigger is very light so under stress you may shoot when you shouldn’t have.

    • @guitarthrasher81
      @guitarthrasher81 Рік тому

      @@peterv1318 I see. Guess it all comes down to training and disciple. thanks

    • @peterv1318
      @peterv1318 Рік тому +1

      @@guitarthrasher81 light trigger is easier for you to squeeze for it to go off. Under stress this can make it go of when you don’t want it to. Yes you would have better control in shooting. In most situations you just have to pull the pistol and they will talk shit but walk away. You don’t want to be pointing it at them waiting for them to decide if they still want to attack you and the gun goes off. Edit you will most likely have your finger resting on trigger and stress will actually make you tighten your fingers.

  • @LunaGuitars68
    @LunaGuitars68 11 місяців тому

    This pins don't push out as easily as you make it seem

  • @MsArzu333
    @MsArzu333 Рік тому

    great

  • @codygoldade3984
    @codygoldade3984 Рік тому

    How does this compare to the galloway one as far as feel goes? also i saw they have a 13lb recoil spring for sale but you guys dont any reason for that? does it even make a difference?

    • @alanlyons1195
      @alanlyons1195 Рік тому

      Galloway offers the safety in both aluminum and plastic. Some people prefer the feel of the Galloway trigger@@Vlad_MCarbo

  • @RayRayWasAGoodBoy
    @RayRayWasAGoodBoy 5 місяців тому +1

    Don’t be a idiot like me, I didn’t realize the springs had the cotton/felt material inside for the quieter trigger pull. My dumbass thought it was material that got stuck from me cleaning so I kept pulling the stuff out until there was no more only to realize what it was for 😂😂😂😂😢🔫
    Now it boings again!

    • @FC2ESWS
      @FC2ESWS 4 місяці тому

      It doesn't come with that lint, does it?

    • @RayRayWasAGoodBoy
      @RayRayWasAGoodBoy 4 місяці тому

      @@FC2ESWScomes with the hammer spring they provide

    • @FC2ESWS
      @FC2ESWS 4 місяці тому +1

      @@RayRayWasAGoodBoy Man I removed all that "lint" too because that's what I thought it was, lint! Lol

    • @RayRayWasAGoodBoy
      @RayRayWasAGoodBoy 4 місяці тому

      @@FC2ESWS 😂 we share the same OCD. At least functionally it’s no different, just now it doesn’t have the quiet feature anymore.

    • @FC2ESWS
      @FC2ESWS 4 місяці тому

      @@RayRayWasAGoodBoy The funny part is that I was thinking, how the hell did all this lint get in here anyways lol. I don't carry in my pocket lol

  • @MequinMastura
    @MequinMastura Рік тому +1

    Better

  • @TheHandHistoryVault
    @TheHandHistoryVault Рік тому +1

    Has anyone got light strikes with the 12lb Hammer Spring + the lighter Firing Pin Spring?
    Edited: Use a light Firing Pin Spring, if you upgrade the trigger and you use 12lb hammer. Light primer strikes are less likely to happen.

    • @PunkPino
      @PunkPino Рік тому

      Had light strikes on both springs, even after using the lighter firing pin spring. I’ve since reinstalled the stock hammer spring

    • @Cwh1992
      @Cwh1992 Рік тому

      @@PunkPinolight strikes with the 12lb spring?

    • @PunkPino
      @PunkPino Рік тому

      @@Cwh1992 yes. Out of 100 rounds of PMC Bronze 90 grain FMJ had about 6 or 7 light strikes with the 12lb hammer spring and the lighter firing pin spring. Never had any light strikes when testing higher end defensive rounds though.

    • @bryantartus
      @bryantartus 6 місяців тому

      so should I leave the factory springs and just upgrade the trigger?

    • @TheHandHistoryVault
      @TheHandHistoryVault 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@bryantartusI was wrong. No, take out the factory springs, except the OEM trigger return spring. After testing different springs, if you upgrade your trigger and hammer spring, make sure you change to a lighter firing pin spring. If you don't, light primer strikes will happen, even with the 12lb hammer. Also, I suggest upgrading to a heavier trigger return spring, and not use the lighter one which comes with the trigger.

  • @richwilson7619
    @richwilson7619 Рік тому

    Should have gauged the weapon you worked on before and after. Hard primers can be a problem when changing trigger spring weight. Find ammo that's works well with the weapon.

  • @Deronos55
    @Deronos55 Рік тому

    How is this different than the original video and trigger you guys had?

  • @3Pillers
    @3Pillers Рік тому

    👍

  • @pigybak
    @pigybak Рік тому +5

    can i just send you my gun??🤓

  • @firewire8912
    @firewire8912 Рік тому

    It's ridiculous that companies even make different springs for these triggers. That you should not even give options for different Springs it's pointless this is a self-defense gun it should always be the factory spring!

    • @timothyglasscock3649
      @timothyglasscock3649 8 місяців тому

      Why? Using a holster that covers the trigger and not pulling a gun out unless you intend to use it solves the issue. Also 5 pounds isn't that light. Also, don't keep your finger on the trigger. Don't do stupid crap and it's fine.

  • @oo7-ro6bu
    @oo7-ro6bu 8 місяців тому

    Mcarbo, sends their customers half of what was ordered and then says its been delivered. Buyer beware.

    • @1yehny
      @1yehny 3 місяці тому

      I’ve ordered lots from mcarbo and never had a mistake on my orders. Did you contact them?

  • @m00nchildblues
    @m00nchildblues 7 місяців тому

    Man,worse than an Apex trigger install 😂

  • @Mike-4547
    @Mike-4547 5 місяців тому

    Usually they have real good videos but this video is so edited it must be a pain to install. I’ll pass and I have purchased lots of their products I actually live about 15 miles from them I had visited their warehouse thinking it was an actual store but the guys where cool about it. This dude didn’t even want to remove the barrel from the slide and on the website they have an option where they will install it for you I wouldn’t let this guy do it.

  • @aaronhardin9807
    @aaronhardin9807 Рік тому

    looks like the juice is not worth the squeeze.. also, i'll never understand how people comfortably film their hands when they really need to trim their nails. thanks for the vid