True. One would think, since Strange is the Master of Mystic Arts, and would know about all powerful magic wielders, that they would have interacted more and called on one another for aid -- or fought. I always wondered about that, when I was a kid, reading comics.
@@Dynamo001Agatha unironically decimates doctor strange and is the second strongest magic user within marvel (yes every magic user INCLUDING CTHON AND THE OTHER ELDER BEINGS) while strange was nun but a clump of cells she was already practicing and getting more powerful in magic 😭 she holds knowledge not even strange knows plus was capable of rivaling wanda in an inter dimensional fight head on PLUS healing the silver surfer (in which dr strange can’t do) PLUS stopping a storm that not even THOR could stop catch it
Many people assume that Agatha has been a villain in Wandavision. But I think there is more evidence to suggest otherwise. - She only emerged at all because of the scale, power and complexity of Wanda's spell. - She spent time in the Hex to understand what Wanda's power was and manipulated events to further that understanding. - Based on her reaction to Wanda truly becoming The Scarlet Witch, it seems more likely that she wanted the power for herself because she would be able to keep it under control seeing as she's been a witch and seemingly lived with her own powers for centuries. Now, there was the flashback of her sucking the powers from the other witches including her mother, but we don't know the entirety of the circumstances. That could have been self-preservation (they were the ones that captured her after all.) Marvel tends to get rid of the bad guys who are only ever bad guys and they didn't do that with Agatha. She's probably much more than meets the eye.
I think she was supposed to be the villain of wandavision but her mind was corrupted by the darkhold so she’ll probably play more of a hero type role in coven of chaos
It's pretty clear that Agatha is a villain -- that is, power-hungry and willing to have others suffer for her in order to accomplish her goals. That isn't to say she's as Evil(tm) as many demons or similar entities (Mephisto, for instance, or Cthon, et al), but rather selfish/self-centered to an extent that is dangerous to those around her. She's a narrative mirror in the MCU to Wanda, except that where the latter succumbed to loss and suffering it then in Agatha's case was about envy and the desire for power from the beginning. Just because Agatha has no doubt suffered herself to "x" degree, nor is arbitrarily malignant (however capricious she can seem at times), doesn't mean she isn't a villain -- she very much is, just one (much like MCU Thanos) whose motivations can at least be understood even while not necessarily agreed with/condoned.
This gets me more excited for house of harkness, they can do alot to explore the magical side of the MCU. Could set up the fantastic 4 since they should be coming soon.
That was an awesome documentary. I always loved Agatha Harkness. Especially liked how you focused on past continuity with Franklin Richards and the Scarlet Witch. My favorite comic with Agatha is her first appearance where she and her familiar kick the buts of the Frightful Four.
This the Marvel Universe (MU) Agatha Harkness -- that is, AH in the comics with first appearance in FF Vol. 1 #94 in 1/1970. Created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. We also have right now, following Wandavision episodes 8 and 9, the MCU/Disney Agatha Harkness portrayed by American actress Kathryn Hahn. These two versions are different characters, though they share the same name and a few storyline similarities (e.g., appearance in the Salem Witch Trials of the 1690s). I would like to see, in future films, the MU Agatha Harkness portrayed by Jane Lapotaire or Eileen Atkins.
Will we see Agatha Harkness become a nanny for Franklin Richards in the MCU? Which all actors do you think should play the Fantastic Four in the MCU? Can you do history of Franklin Richards?
After seeing Fire Star referenced, I kind of want to see her comic history since most of what I know comes from the old cartoon series. I've seen her make cameos as a nod to the cartoon, but this implies there me more complex and interesting stories not as often told.
You left out the part where I got the returned to her role as Franklin's caretaker and assisted Nathaniel Richards in abducting him to the future, which resulted in Sue throwing her out
Very informative, I remember owning many of the comics mentioned and the sweet memories that went along with them. Thank you for having a tremendous voice of gap. If you have'nt already done a back history on this Marvel characters I would like to see the Man-Wolf and Hell 🐈 Cat
Can you do origin of Wonder Man, the Grim Reaper, Molecule Man, Sentry, Mr Immortal, Captain Universe, the Mandarin, Flerken, Grey Gargoyle, Whiplash, Ronan the Accuser, Ego the Living Planet, the Living Tribunal and Super_Skrull along with Avenger-X and the Protector?
What do you think is the best thing about Agatha Harkness? Which version of Agatha Harkness do you think is better between the one from the comics and the one from the WandaVision TV show?
This was very interesting. I’ve read some of the comics ( Storm and the Scarlet Witch are my favorite two) and my husband bought me a book which was a collection of scarlet Witch stories when he was in NY a few years ago but I’ve been too dam* busy to read it. I’ve been calling myself a Blerd ( Black Nerd) but I wasn’t up on my comic lore like I shoulda been. Agatha isn’t really a villain in the comics? I know they like to change things up and I have zero issues with Wandavision ( it’s my favorite MCU installment besides Black Panther and Winter Soldier) but it would have been interesting to see her more like this. Maybe they’ll do that for the Fantastic Four movie. I like your channel. Some of the other ones that explain comics are too dam* long. The house of m video is there dam* hours!!! He has a voice that puts me to sleep too so I can’t get through it and it’s frustrating. I’ll definitely subscribe here.
I LIKE ALL THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF (AGATHA HARKNESS) IN MARVEL STORIES & MY VERSIONS: First off, I can imagine the possibility that there is an alternate version of (Agatha Harkness) who isn’t power obsessed, but instead she is just lonely, and not only that I can imagine that at some point in her life she might of become an adoptive parent of an orphaned child. Now I can imagine that the alternate version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) who I envision as a genuine good person, she could of become great friends with one of the powerful Asgardians, and not only that I can imagine that she knew the best magic-spells to protect herself from wicked beings, and from evil beings. In addition the names of the Asgardians who got married, and had a child; Those names are AMORA aka (The Enchantress) & I imagine her husband being FANDRAL. I also can envision another version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) who is great friends with (Morgana Le Fay) & I imagine that it was she who had fallen genuinely in love with (Loki) in that different dimensional realm. My third imagined alternate version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) is one who is great friends with two Asgardians, and these two were married to each other for 80years, and then they fell out of love with each other so they got divorced; Now the names of them are (Lorelei) 2nd. daughter of (Sylvie Lushton) & (Skurge) he is a honorable warrior, and he has a job as being the Executioner when one is needed. To add I imagine that before (SKURGE) & (LORELEI) got divorced from each other, they had one child it was a baby girl, and I imagine that it was named after Lorelei’s mother (SYLVIE) who was the first Enchantress, and to add I imagine that later in life LORELEI had become a very selfish person, irresponsible person, really greedy, and a very, very vain type of person as well. So when the divorce between her, and her husband SKURGE happened, I imagine SKURGE decided that he wanted to try to raise their child, that is if LORELEI had no objections to it, and I imagine that she said I have no problems with it, after all our daughter is now about 4, or 5years old, and I have had enough of her. In addition so when the day came that a disaster was threatening the planet:ASGARD, I imagine that Sylvie’s father SKURGE was called to help out, and then he realized that there is a chance he might die trying to help out, and there for I imagine that he called out for his old friend (AGATHA HARKNESS) to come to the planet to talk to her about his daughter SYLVIE, and what he wants to ask her to do for him that involves his daughter’s well being. Plus to add I envision that the alternate version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) was destined to raise SYLVIE, who is destined to be the future hero of both plains of existence, and that is both hero to her own race the Asgardians, and hero to the human race of the planet:Earth, and that would be as the successor to her grandmother’s great powers who was the first Enchantress, and so SYLVIE would be labeled as the new (Enchantress) & by another title that is the (Emerald Sorceress).
Since you're doing history of the characters from the WandaVision TV show, are you doing to do history of Mephisto, Chthon, Master_Pandemonium, Nicholas_Scratch and Kang the Conqueror along with Wonder Man and his brother the Grim Reaper?
Huh, didn't realize Franklin had vaporized Mephisto at one point. Perhaps that explains why that ridiculous Wannabe Satan went after MJ & Peter's marriage but stayed well clear of Sue & Reed. Of course, like Agatha, Aunt May also babysat for Franklin (at least one that time she became a Herald of Galactus) so maybe she could call in a favor from him and get the Parker marriage re-instated under threat of repeating the "break you into pieces" thing. Or, of course, she could just reclaim the Golden Oldie mantle and whup Red herself. Mephisto never did very well against Heralds.
9:10 "Gabriel the Devil Hunter" is it? Somebody call DC, Jason Blood's slumming it over at Marvel again. "Flee, flee, the form of man! Arise the Demon, Etrigan!" :)
i don't think she made herself younger as much as this is just a younger version of that character. kinda like how the MCU Aunt May is like 37 and not a frail old woman. my guess is they cast Agatha young because they intent to keep her around in future projects
Disney's interference has shit all over Vision, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver with crappy retcons. This is an Awesome summary video, but what a mess toward the end...
I'm surprised Agatha hasn't had more interaction with Doctor Strange.
True. One would think, since Strange is the Master of Mystic Arts, and would know about all powerful magic wielders, that they would have interacted more and called on one another for aid -- or fought.
I always wondered about that, when I was a kid, reading comics.
That's right. Not even in the comics.
The Doc ain't interested in some old hag.👵
@@Dynamo001Agatha unironically decimates doctor strange and is the second strongest magic user within marvel (yes every magic user INCLUDING CTHON AND THE OTHER ELDER BEINGS) while strange was nun but a clump of cells she was already practicing and getting more powerful in magic 😭 she holds knowledge not even strange knows plus was capable of rivaling wanda in an inter dimensional fight head on PLUS healing the silver surfer (in which dr strange can’t do) PLUS stopping a storm that not even THOR could stop catch it
(The first is Wanda btw and if you disagree we can run it up)
Many people assume that Agatha has been a villain in Wandavision. But I think there is more evidence to suggest otherwise.
- She only emerged at all because of the scale, power and complexity of Wanda's spell.
- She spent time in the Hex to understand what Wanda's power was and manipulated events to further that understanding.
- Based on her reaction to Wanda truly becoming The Scarlet Witch, it seems more likely that she wanted the power for herself because she would be able to keep it under control seeing as she's been a witch and seemingly lived with her own powers for centuries.
Now, there was the flashback of her sucking the powers from the other witches including her mother, but we don't know the entirety of the circumstances. That could have been self-preservation (they were the ones that captured her after all.) Marvel tends to get rid of the bad guys who are only ever bad guys and they didn't do that with Agatha. She's probably much more than meets the eye.
AND SHE KILLED SPARKY TOO!
@@rosstubergames But, but Sparky wasn't real!... or was he? Dun dun duuuun.
I think she was supposed to be the villain of wandavision but her mind was corrupted by the darkhold so she’ll probably play more of a hero type role in coven of chaos
We do know the entirety of the situation.
Agatha was playing with forbidden magic. That's why she was on trial.
It's pretty clear that Agatha is a villain -- that is, power-hungry and willing to have others suffer for her in order to accomplish her goals. That isn't to say she's as Evil(tm) as many demons or similar entities (Mephisto, for instance, or Cthon, et al), but rather selfish/self-centered to an extent that is dangerous to those around her. She's a narrative mirror in the MCU to Wanda, except that where the latter succumbed to loss and suffering it then in Agatha's case was about envy and the desire for power from the beginning. Just because Agatha has no doubt suffered herself to "x" degree, nor is arbitrarily malignant (however capricious she can seem at times), doesn't mean she isn't a villain -- she very much is, just one (much like MCU Thanos) whose motivations can at least be understood even while not necessarily agreed with/condoned.
I knew Agatha was powerful and long-lived, but I didn't know a lot about her.
Thanks!
I was definitely waiting for this one. She’s always been one of my favorite characters.
Rick Grayson - Did you like Kathryn Hahn being cast as her?
This gets me more excited for house of harkness, they can do alot to explore the magical side of the MCU. Could set up the fantastic 4 since they should be coming soon.
That was an awesome documentary. I always loved Agatha Harkness. Especially liked how you focused on past continuity with Franklin Richards and the Scarlet Witch. My favorite comic with Agatha is her first appearance where she and her familiar kick the buts of the Frightful Four.
Wow! This was such an in-depth back story so this basically puts her or let her be seen in a new light so she really isn't a villain after all
Another great vid bro. I understood the marvel universe so much better now. Keep the vids coming...
Kinda shocked there is no fantastic 4 video on the channel yet great video btw thanks for the upload
I had not followed the Fantastic Four, so this was very informative because I am loving the new show. Thank you very much! ❤❤❤
This the Marvel Universe (MU) Agatha Harkness -- that is, AH in the comics with first appearance in FF Vol. 1 #94 in 1/1970. Created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. We also have right now, following Wandavision episodes 8 and 9, the MCU/Disney Agatha Harkness portrayed by American actress Kathryn Hahn. These two versions are different characters, though they share the same name and a few storyline similarities (e.g., appearance in the Salem Witch Trials of the 1690s). I would like to see, in future films, the MU Agatha Harkness portrayed by Jane Lapotaire or Eileen Atkins.
Will we see Agatha Harkness become a nanny for Franklin Richards in the MCU? Which all actors do you think should play the Fantastic Four in the MCU? Can you do history of Franklin Richards?
This was remarkably thorough. Thank you.
After seeing Fire Star referenced, I kind of want to see her comic history since most of what I know comes from the old cartoon series. I've seen her make cameos as a nod to the cartoon, but this implies there me more complex and interesting stories not as often told.
Please do the origin of Silvermane (Silvio Manfredi)
That’s almost as bad as Blackard Boltegon
@@creed8712 it’s blackagar
You left out the part where I got the returned to her role as Franklin's caretaker and assisted Nathaniel Richards in abducting him to the future, which resulted in Sue throwing her out
Who’s been giving us a catchy theme?
It’s been Agatha all along
The Disney mcu... Pathetic.
@@notmyname5591 tell that to endgame
@@notmyname5591 theres nothing wrong with the mcu, it may be a bit overrated but it's still enjoyable
Do any comic book weddings ever go without some epic battle?
Keep up the great work man may I recommend silver sable
I would like to see the origin of Kang the conqueror
This was great video
Thanks for the info 👍. Much ❤ as always
Very informative, I remember owning many of the comics mentioned and the sweet memories that went along with them. Thank you for having a tremendous voice of gap. If you have'nt already done a back history on this Marvel characters I would like to see the Man-Wolf and Hell 🐈 Cat
The nosy neighbor, Agath- I mean Agnes, sorry, almost spoiled WandaVision.
Have you ever thought of covering Mephisto?
The name comes up so often that it'd be really cool to find out more about his story.
Thanks for the great video ❤
You skipped the part where Kang the Conquerer thought briefly that she might be The Celestial Madonna!
Can you do origin of Wonder Man, the Grim Reaper, Molecule Man, Sentry, Mr Immortal, Captain Universe, the Mandarin, Flerken, Grey Gargoyle, Whiplash, Ronan the Accuser, Ego the Living Planet, the Living Tribunal and Super_Skrull along with Avenger-X and the Protector?
Great video! Can you please do one for Quicksilver and one for Crystal?
Have you done a Howard the Duck or Squirrel Girl video?
Looooooooooove it...... Thank you so much for updating my knowledge
Can you do history of Namor the Submariner, Crossfire, Living Laser, Whiplash, Darkhawk, Union Jack, Annihilus and the Broods?
Kathryn Hahn did a phenomenal job for train Agatha.
🎶 it was Agatha all along🎶
What do you think is the best thing about Agatha Harkness? Which version of Agatha Harkness do you think is better between the one from the comics and the one from the WandaVision TV show?
I like elderly comic Agatha, she's just sexier.😍
@@johnadger6699 ummmm
Think you can do the origin of Silver sable?
Can you do origin of the Brood, Namor the Submariner, Kang the Conqueror, Annihilus and Tryco Slatterus the Champion of the Universe?
This was very interesting. I’ve read some of the comics ( Storm and the Scarlet Witch are my favorite two) and my husband bought me a book which was a collection of scarlet Witch stories when he was in NY a few years ago but I’ve been too dam* busy to read it. I’ve been calling myself a Blerd ( Black Nerd) but I wasn’t up on my comic lore like I shoulda been. Agatha isn’t really a villain in the comics? I know they like to change things up and I have zero issues with Wandavision ( it’s my favorite MCU installment besides Black Panther and Winter Soldier) but it would have been interesting to see her more like this. Maybe they’ll do that for the Fantastic Four movie. I like your channel. Some of the other ones that explain comics are too dam* long. The house of m video is there dam* hours!!! He has a voice that puts me to sleep too so I can’t get through it and it’s frustrating. I’ll definitely subscribe here.
*three hours
So much Better than CozyTV’s coverage of Agatha.
IT WAS AGATHA ALL ALONG
so wait , franklin richards and mephisto are the fathers of scarlet witches children?
Agatha all along. Agatha killed sparky, too 😔🎶
can you do the history of selene galio?
I LIKE ALL THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF (AGATHA HARKNESS) IN MARVEL STORIES & MY VERSIONS:
First off, I can imagine the possibility that there is an alternate version of (Agatha Harkness) who isn’t power obsessed, but instead she is just lonely, and not only that I can imagine that at some point in her life she might of become an adoptive parent of an orphaned child.
Now I can imagine that the alternate version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) who I envision as a genuine good person, she could of become great friends with one of the powerful Asgardians, and not only that I can imagine that she knew the best magic-spells to protect herself from wicked beings, and from evil beings.
In addition the names of the Asgardians who got married, and had a child; Those names are AMORA aka (The Enchantress) & I imagine her husband being FANDRAL.
I also can envision another version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) who is great friends with (Morgana Le Fay) & I imagine that it was she who had fallen genuinely in love with (Loki) in that different dimensional realm.
My third imagined alternate version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) is one who is great friends with two Asgardians, and these two were married to each other for 80years, and then they fell out of love with each other so they got divorced; Now the names of them are (Lorelei) 2nd. daughter of (Sylvie Lushton) & (Skurge) he is a honorable warrior, and he has a job as being the Executioner when one is needed.
To add I imagine that before (SKURGE) & (LORELEI) got divorced from each other, they had one child it was a baby girl, and I imagine that it was named after Lorelei’s mother (SYLVIE) who was the first Enchantress, and to add I imagine that later in life LORELEI had become a very selfish person, irresponsible person, really greedy, and a very, very vain type of person as well.
So when the divorce between her, and her husband SKURGE happened, I imagine SKURGE decided that he wanted to try to raise their child, that is if LORELEI had no objections to it, and I imagine that she said I have no problems with it, after all our daughter is now about 4, or 5years old, and I have had enough of her.
In addition so when the day came that a disaster was threatening the planet:ASGARD, I imagine that Sylvie’s father SKURGE was called to help out, and then he realized that there is a chance he might die trying to help out, and there for I imagine that he called out for his old friend (AGATHA HARKNESS) to come to the planet to talk to her about his daughter SYLVIE, and what he wants to ask her to do for him that involves his daughter’s well being.
Plus to add I envision that the alternate version of (AGATHA HARKNESS) was destined to raise SYLVIE, who is destined to be the future hero of both plains of existence, and that is both hero to her own race the Asgardians, and hero to the human race of the planet:Earth, and that would be as the successor to her grandmother’s great powers who was the first Enchantress, and so SYLVIE would be labeled as the new (Enchantress) & by another title that is the (Emerald Sorceress).
Is it me...or is sis literally the same design as Madame Webb 🧐
Marvel has HAWKMANED Wanda and Pietro with all of the retcons.
Great!
I hope the MCU bring Agatha h. Back
Agatha Harkness X-men evolution and Avengers they United stand and WandaVison played by Kathryn Hahn
Since you're doing history of the characters from the WandaVision TV show, are you doing to do history of Mephisto, Chthon, Master_Pandemonium, Nicholas_Scratch and Kang the Conqueror along with Wonder Man and his brother the Grim Reaper?
Huh, didn't realize Franklin had vaporized Mephisto at one point. Perhaps that explains why that ridiculous Wannabe Satan went after MJ & Peter's marriage but stayed well clear of Sue & Reed. Of course, like Agatha, Aunt May also babysat for Franklin (at least one that time she became a Herald of Galactus) so maybe she could call in a favor from him and get the Parker marriage re-instated under threat of repeating the "break you into pieces" thing. Or, of course, she could just reclaim the Golden Oldie mantle and whup Red herself. Mephisto never did very well against Heralds.
Can you please do the history of the Asgardian Destroyer(Enchanted_Armor)? marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Destroyer_(Enchanted_Armor)
And if it was the real Agatha in Wandavison then the MCU really shafted the character
It was Agatha all along.
9:10 "Gabriel the Devil Hunter" is it? Somebody call DC, Jason Blood's slumming it over at Marvel again. "Flee, flee, the form of man! Arise the Demon, Etrigan!" :)
How come Agatha Harkness is not an old lady in the MCU and that too in the WandaVision TV show? Did she somehow make herself younger?
i don't think she made herself younger as much as this is just a younger version of that character. kinda like how the MCU Aunt May is like 37 and not a frail old woman. my guess is they cast Agatha young because they intent to keep her around in future projects
Nicholas Scratch I wonder if that is a reference to the devil?
ROM.... I would love to hear the story of this character
Can we please have the origin of Franklin Richards
Can you do history of the Squadron Supreme, the Thunderbolts and the Illuminati?
And she killed Sparky, too!
Wow
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
cool
It was Agatha all along 🤔......
While DC's heroes exist in fictional cities but on Earth, Ive always loved how Marvel uses names of actual places on Earth. Especially New York 😂
Blue marvel please
Don't forget the Gladiator, Hyperion and Sentry
Humm...Postman Willie Lumpkin?
You Forgot To Mention Master Pandemonium!!!!!!
Do you think we will see Agatha Harkness in the Eternals movie? Also do you think she has some kind of connection with the Ancient one in the MCU?
They probably went to their prom together. :)
I'm surprised theres not as many Wandavision references here
AGATHA HARKNESS MCU SAGA:
\WANDAVISION/
\AGATHA: HOUSE OF HARKNESS/
I'm insidious perfidious that you haven't even noticed 😉
She may be super old but I bet she know how to shake that rump.👵❤
@@johnadger6699 real witch shii
@@agathaharkness399 indeed😉
👍
I don't think Agatha harkness is a social person
So it really was Agatha all along? Wow. Who would’ve thought? lol.
Funny thing is we don't see her holding a cat in Wanda Vision..
She looks like aunt may
Wishlist: Agatha Harkness and Madame Web beat up their live action counterparts
Bunny Man.
Yes. The REAL Agatha Harkness. Not that pathetic travesty of a joke in MCU.
The Mutants!
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Disney's interference has shit all over Vision, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver with crappy retcons. This is an Awesome summary video, but what a mess toward the end...
What is a retcon?
@@harrypalms7531 retroactive continuity
Abagatha Fartness?
Haha.. I thought smelled sonetijvy
AGATHA OLD A F
Do a feature on Shaman of Alpha Flight and his daughter Talisman.