I TRY TO START MY HONDA CB250 (ABANDONED SINCE 1986)
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2024
- This #Honda #superdream project bike has been forgotten since 1986. It's been patiently waiting all these years for its chance to hit the road again. In our latest video, we're about to breathe new life into this classic machine by attempting to start it for the first time in decades. Will it run after so many years? Stay Tuned to find out.
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I wince to think of the friction between the 38 year old bone dry cylinders, pistons & rings and cams, lube it up baby! and clean carbs!
Good idea to put small amount of oil down the bores stop the rings scoring them
When i first passed my test in 1986 , these bikes where everywhere.
I reckon that is the reason spares are easy to get hold of
@@BikesofRye Yep. Plus China cloned the engine at one point.
The lc Yamaha were much faster and easy to fix these were good commuters the 400n been a better bet.😊
You check engine oil BEFORE you turn over the engine.... 😅
Along with a litany of other things, that poor bike has no idea of the bafoonary it's going to be subjected too. 😢
@@twowheelsquirrelthanks mate 👍🏼
Yes!!! This “bloke” needs help😂😂😂😂
@@twowheelsquirrelTakes one to know one fella! Why can’t people like you just give the guy a break and support him instead of making snide, derogatory remarks? Guess you’re one of these anonymous keyboard warriors who knows everything and has never made a mistake in anything he does.
He can't be as bad as The idiot on vintage, he can wear out a throttle cable with heat in 10 minutes@@twowheelsquirrel
I love watching” have a go heroes”.
Have go!! Yes 😎... hero I am not
@@BikesofRye rooting for you to get it up and running! really enjoyable video, good luck
The oil light on the dash went straight out when the starter turned it over. Meaning the oil pump is pumping something.
Agreed.
40 year old oil is better than no oil 😉
Great Chanel and great content. Keep doing what you’re doing, good or bad feedback just means people are watching. Well done 👍
Kind words and motivating - of course mate! 😎
You kept referring to the best part of 30 years i think you will find it to be for the best part of 40 years.
Wow amazing! Love these rebuilds keep coming.
Brilliant can't wait to see it back up and running..
Great to see these old bikes brought back to life, great content keep it up
great old bikes had quite a few of these over the years. 400s and 250's .looking forward to this.👍👍👍👍
Love this !
Great job Rye, I love watching your project bikes! Its teatimony to the big H and their build quality and reliability!
Glad you like them!
Great Video
Had one in silver , absolute workhorse of a bike
Another cracking vid. 👏
I despatched rode one to death in the mid eighties,tougher than I thought..zero maintenance not even an oil change,the whole thing was a dangerous wreck when It finally packed in I think the cdi went ,only fit for the scrapers after two years of abuse.
Love that you are taking more time making videos like this great to see bikes older than me come back to life :)
Great video! I had a CB250N from 1979 once, it was a nice little thing 😂
Keep up the good work! 👍
Greetings from Mattias in Sweden 😄
You spent longer explaining why you weren’t checking the engine oil than it would of taken you to unscrew the dipstick and see if there was oil in there.. speechless
@07:08👀
But you didn't spend enough time, actually watching the video?
@@BikesofRyewhoops, apologies. I did watch the video in the background while cooking. I missed you trying to open the oil dipstick. see why you did what you did now
Nice one. Cheers. I am looking forward to the next video.
Coming soon!
Great video, unbelievable the bike turning over after being left for so many years
Yeah and the lights... it took a while for them to come on too!
So hyped up to see how the oil lock, please make sure to Videotape this step in detail
There's a few things to watch out for on these bikes as I covered in my video's, sounds like the idle circuit in the carbs is blocked, strip them right down and ultra sonic clean the bodies would be a good idea and clean the top rear engine mounting bolt, to remove the oil dipstick you need to apply equal pressure to each end of the finger grip part such as large plyers and just apply pressure and it will ease off very slowly
Thanks will try this
same as my poopadream same color mine was stood 30 years started straight up after a carb clean new plugs oil filter i now use mine all the time such a great bike i love mine.
Cracking channel fella. The world is full of people who think they know better ! Subscribef, keep up the great content !
Got to love a Superdream , I need to get myself one, again 👍
I love seeing things like this I once had a Yamaha towmmate t50 that needed some work got it all moted and working was great fun, I also like the honda c90 cub once a very common bike and seen almost everywhere now a rare sight on the road, I love seeing them brought back on the road and fixed I'm definitely going to subscribe mate keep up the good work love it
Can't wait now...
I acquired an abandoned 1979 Honda CB400A and that also ran after I fitted a new battery. Amazing! Mind you, the carbs widdled fuel everywhere and in the end I had a vast amount of work to do in the engine to get it reliable, but now it’s a lovely little bike to ride & definitely a keeper.
To check if it'll turn over and fire up, you can squirt a bit of 3% 2-stroke pre-mix into the spark plug hole. This'll lubricate the dry cylinders AND fire up momentarily.
😊 👍
I love the Superdream great bike and well done
Thanks! 👍
Just take plugs out and spin it over and watch oil light, that way you know you have oil pressure, hate it when those oil filler plugs seize, heat is the answer just dont melt it, engine sounded sweet though, really easy to do cam chain tension on those too
I've followed your previous "restorations" with interest and I hope some constructive criticism and positive comments. BUT with this one, real basic common sense seems to have been missed. I'm actually amazed that it did start, considering the state of the air filter and all that powder that will have been sucked into bone dry bores (should have used a hoover or one of those car hoover things) to get rid. Also taken the carbs off and stripped and refurbed them, I can (almost) guarantee that they will have to come off at some point. The state of the tank, you can get one of those cheap endoscopes off Amazon or Temu that goes on your phone to check out the inside more thoroughly.
Run for 10-15 seconds and then its constantly running lol 😂 love it bro 😎
I have one of these in my workshop waiting for resto . So i am looking forwards to watching you at the same time that i start my bike . On my bike the clutch wont work but after 20 years stood i bet the plates are welded together with crud. . So my first job is to free off the clutch and then start the resto . Thanks for your stream mate 👍👍👍👍👍
Enjoying the super dream restoration. Hard to believe it would start after been stood for 3 decades. I remember my dad using easy start on a dumper truck in the 70s, would not ever start without it. Make sure you have fire extinguishers better safe than sorry.😊
Be happy to buy from you.
It will be given away to a lucky patreon member - see links in description if you would like to help support the channel 😁
Cost more to restore that than its worth restored
as is the case with nearly all old bikes that have sat rotting for decades
You are totally missing the point!
Love the videos! Your inspiration to the community!
Thanks
Nice one mate!! Very kind of you thanks!!
@@BikesofRye you are very welcome. Keep the vids coming. You did a lovely job of the Thunderace.👍👍👍👍
To check the oil, all you had to do was undo the sump bolt
It also seemed seized on... 🤣 didn't fancy doing any damage yet
Parked mine up 2001 got it out the garage in 2020 - new spark plug - oils - fuel - battery. Boom started straight away.
I had a cb 250 , the one before the super dream . Cracking bike, but this video makes me feel old, a dream barnfind. God im old😅 probably about the time this one was parked up😅
I would of sprayed sea foam or penetrating oil down the cylinders and let it soak through first. I would also of cleaned the carbs and jets out. Then sprayed the bike it penetrating oil and let it soak, then clean it off with a rag helps with seized nuts and bolts, the clutch would be out and cleaned and replaced or refitted. The engine will polish up with autosolve metal polish. The petrol tank inside would be cleaned and left to soak in 20 percent vingegar then neutralised with baking soda, then a ethanol proof liner. It all depends how far you want to go with it. Best of luck keep up the good work.
Just stumbled across this channel, it IS a parody of some sort...isnt it?
Good to see it run, chuffed for you mate…..David silver spares have everything Honda. 👍🏻
The pilot jet at least will be gummed up, just pull the carbs off and clean them and it might idle.
I think you need to watch a few videos on how to start an engine that’s been idle for years
Back when bikes were made to last,I still see the (very) occasional Superdream on the road and a workmate still runs a scruffy but reliable 1979 XS400 as his daily commuter.
Those oil caps used to tighten up even when the bikes were quite new,maybe the plastic expanded with heat or something ,I'm not sure a blowlamp was the best idea,there should be a rubber O ring under the cap.
Still loads of spares around as they were the best-selling bike in the UK until the government got fed up when the answer from the manufacturers to pleas to tone down the power race that was killing young lads was a raised middle finger in the shape if things like the Suzuki RG250 and the KR1S Kawasaki and brought in a 125 learner limit with very little notice. Suddenly the market was flooded with the things,dealers wouldn't take them in part exchange and people like me who wanted cheap runabouts were picking up year old 250's for 200 quid from desperate sellers.
They are actually very easy to work on, I've known a few "enthusiastic amateurs" over the years that have rebuilt them with a Haynes manual and a bit of common sense,
Exhaust system might well self-destruct when you take it off,the collector box was always a weak spot.
Got to the end of the video when you grinder the centre stand off and I can’t find anymore videos on the superdream, are there any?
Hi working on the content for you coming soon ☺
Interesting too see love the superdreams I had 4 plus I cm250 not quick but bulletproof build quality and for the time looked great miss them myself honda never did a 250cc road bike as good as this the cb250 Nighthawk after it was nowhere near as good in looks or engine as I had that too save this beautiful thing and give it to me! 😁
Carb clean, oil down the spark plug holes, crank it over manually.
I’ll support u. !!! With advice. I’m a motorcycle mechanic/tech. 😂😂😂
Get an ultra sonic cleaner for the carb. They are the nuts. Then i'd consider a jet kit. Clean the tank then add a new tap i reckon. Make sure there is an inline filter between the tap and the carbs, as that will stop any shite from the tank blocking things up. Cheers.
Ultra sonic cleaner is certainly going to be purchased! Would like to get a floor press and sand blaster too.... oh and an air compressor obviously. All the gear no idea 🤣
@BikesofRye not being funny but theyd be great additions to your w/shop. Cuttla grand you be sorted. You could get it second hand.
Funds dependant ofcourse.
Sounds like the Thunder Ace
Thanks mate 👍🏼
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@@JayVtec-GAMING You better not get involved remember last time
@@freesteamer3463 I don't need to, you seen all the other comments! Esp the one rye calling everyone minions if you leave a negative comment.... 😆
@@JayVtec-GAMING Ill have a look, remember he is learning
a money pit if ever i saw one. a squirt if oil down the bores is always worth it to stop them getting scored. also a good idea to turn it over by hand slowly first after such a long time standing
brilliant Honda as usual that I see in many videos, after so long off the road it just fires up, yet, my 3 year old bike I had in the 80s if I went on holiday for 2 weeks, came back to it , would not start - except if I bump started it..... please, please, please Rye, keep it as original as possible, those OEM exhausts, see if you can do them up, don't just get replicas from david silver spares cos it's easier
Honda s just dont die ..those 250n's were so reliable
Challenge time, my channel Vs yours. A 250 challenge in around June, July. A sprint race, a mpg challenge over a distance, and another challenge to be decided. You up for it?
World: the future is coming little Honda, and youre not in it.
Honda: maybe so sir, but not today 😎
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If its anything like my 250 Superdream I had,the carbs were clogged up after I had left it unrun for a few months. Having no idea at the time I did not drain the carbs before I put it away and also I think the tank was rusty inside so after having the carbs cleaned it continued sucking crap out of the tank.
“It’s A Honda” and an old school one at that. There’s a reason all the mechanics say this.
No chance it will run alone…. Carbs are blocked for sure with old gas. Gummed up.
Next time, take out plugs and put oil in the cylinders…. Will smoke on 1st run and burn it off.
Check it turns over by hand first.
Etc etc etc ……
But nice video. 😊
Thanks! In collection video I did have it in gear and spun the wheel to check engine wasn't seized. I also sprayed GT85 into the cylinder too
Two CG125s for the price of one 😄👌 love them great bike .
That tank is going to be grim. I can't wait to see how u takle that as i need to do it to my project. Use acid please, I have done one with vinagar before but it takes ages.
Electrolysis mate..check out Brick House builds. He has a vid on it and other methods
i do wonder sometimes what happened to my old Superdream 250 (Deluxe). (aud500y no tax since 1999)
You should be dousing everything in GT85
Sealey MS029 remote fuel container, about £26 on amazon will be far better setup for starting bikes.
‘Gamble’ 😮
Did you chk to make sure pistons aren’t frozen???
Next project with similar issues squirt a little WD into the bores and pretty much everywhere else please
Had already done so on the collection video
like your garage, not at all dirty and honda would look nice in Matt paint
Thanks! Yeah not thought about the colour yet....
Not sure checking the oil after you`ve spun it over is a good idea !!
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I'd put cb650r headlight and led indicators and tail light on this bike if possible would look miles better or keep the classic look if that's what your after 😅
Is that a known modification then? I am in two minds how I rebuild this bike
@@BikesofRye not a known modification but thought it'll look cool 😎
I'm curious as to why it was without switch gear, cables etc? Was someone planning to chop/customize it?
They were called "dreams" because they were so slow, you could fall asleep on 'em...
...that was the standard joke, back then, anyway...
There are things you're doing wrong but take no notice of the critical comments im starting a channel soon ive enjoyed your video
Looking forward to this one. I watch musty on UA-cam too. Literally mechanic porn!
Probably leaded fuel in the tank, touch of oil (wd40) top of pistons after pulling the plugs before attemptinga crank, been sitting almost 40yr. Be a more fun restoration being a simple bike.
Bit of choke and up the idle screw she might have gotten going on her own.
All the Nobby know it alls comments on here are ridiculous , he,s not doing it to make money , its all about content , which you are watching by the way , so the lad is earning money . Well done mate , great channel👏👏👏👏
I don't know why you wouldn't pop some fresh oil in
Needed choke to run
I love this video but please never start a bike again without changing the oil first.
When did draining the fuel tank become part of an oil change? You seem to have a strange order of working with almost every thing you do.
for instance take the front off the headlamp before you take off the shell, then you don't end up juggling parts while trying to use tools.
I commend your enthusiasm but some time with an experienced mechanic would pay dividends in the long run.
I luv it, we'll done, take the top box off its hideous.
Haha yeah the top box... who knows!? Maybe I can do something with it
😂i agree it would have been the first job for me to be gone with that hideous thing
The iloil will be goosed
These were horrible when they were new but it is interesting to see one being resurrected
Agreed.
The infamous 'wet superdream'.
Depends what you wanted/expected. I was picking up mint Superdreams for years after the learner law was changed to 125's almost overnight and they became almost unsellable. I just wanted cheap,reliable runabouts for commuting and they were great for that,I had 4 250's and 2 400's over the years. Yes the 250 was a bit lame but it was possible to pick up mint ones for moped money for years,400 was actually a very nice bike.
Mate check out Mustie1. He's the master at bringing old motors to life
Long nose mole grips on the oil cap
It's a dog and no mistake
no,it's definitely a motorbike ,it's got two wheels & everything
Ignore the negative comments, was an entertaining watch.
Thanks mate! Only read the sincere constructive feedback so I can improve- no bother 😉👍🏼
Buy some WD40.
Good luck stripping the engine down if you were defeated an oil filler cap😂
A plastic filler cap...
Not 3 minutes in and its obvious youre clueless
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Seriously don't completely stripped it just recommission it replace tyres brake shoes pads full service then plenty of autosol and polish that bike will clean up really nicely from looking at it
If you don't even know that the switch gear goes in to the head light you shouldn't be messing with motorbikes
That isn't very kind
@@BikesofRye just being honest if it was my bike I'd just clean it and clean carbs out and replace tyres and brake shoes and pads i wouldn't take it apart
@@Mandydoesdomes-tb3jy if it was only that easy
@@BikesofRye its not rocket science
@@BikesofRye trust me dont take it apart it'll be a nightmare trying to remember where everything goes and routes i.e. wiring
Please dont tell me you talk like this in real life?
Only when I am drunk
@@BikesofRye so your drunk when you strip and build your bikes for youtube.
@@karlnewbold8741 "You're" ,or "You are" if we're picking holes in people.
@@dave8204 Who pulled your bog chain?
He openly says he isn’t a pro, give him a break. The other bikes he has completed have been checked over by pros and have had mot.
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