@@JohannaA.5013Way too lachrymose and sentimental. The movement is perfect as it stands. The lily doesn't need to be gilded with a dragging tempo, sobbing phrasing and a mournful atmosphere. If one just plays this movement 'straight', without attention-begging additions from the conductor, we get much closer to Beethoven's ideal.
Beethoven's 7th Symphony is one of his most joyful and energetic works. It was composed between 1811 and 1812, at the same time as his 8th Symphony, and was dedicated to Count Moritz von Fries. The symphony was premiered on December 8, 1813, at a charity concert for wounded soldiers in Vienna, conducted by Beethoven himself. The concert also included his Wellington's Victory and parts of his Mass in C major. The symphony consists of four movements: a Poco sostenuto - Vivace, an Allegretto, a Presto - Assai meno presto, and an Allegro con brio. The symphony is also known by the nickname "The Apotheosis of the Dance", because of its rhythmic and dance-like character. The first movement is a fast and lively Vivace, preceded by a slow introduction that sets the mood. The movement follows the sonata form, with two contrasting themes: a cheerful and syncopated theme played by the woodwinds, and a lyrical and flowing theme played by the strings. The development section explores various keys and variations of the themes, before the recapitulation returns to the main themes. The movement ends with a spirited coda that repeats the opening theme. The second movement is a slow and graceful Allegretto, which follows a variation form. It begins with a simple melody played by the violas and cellos, over a pulsating accompaniment by the second violins. The melody is then varied by different instruments and sections of the orchestra, creating contrast and interest. The movement has a serene and elegant mood. The third movement is a fast and playful Presto, which follows a ternary form. It begins with a lively theme played by the strings in unison, followed by a contrasting trio section that features a dialogue between the woodwinds and the strings. The presto section returns and leads to a surprising transition to the final movement. The fourth movement is a fast and triumphant Allegro con brio, which follows a sonata form. It begins with a fanfare-like theme played by the brass and timpani, followed by a joyful melody played by the strings. The development section builds up tension and excitement, before the recapitulation returns to the main themes. The movement ends with a brilliant coda that combines elements from all four movements and concludes with a series of fortissimo chords. Beethoven's 7th Symphony is a masterpiece of musical innovation and expression. It shows his mastery of orchestration and his ability to create powerful emotions with music. The symphony has inspired many composers and musicians, and has become a symbol of joy and vitality.
Beethoven put together a large orchestra himself with the finest musicians of the days like Antonio Salieri, Ignaz Schuppanzigh (1. violin), Louis Spohr (2. violin), Joseph Mayseder (viola), Mauro Giuliani (violoncello), Nepomuk Hummel, Giacomo Meyerbeer and Giuseppe Siboni. The orchestra was led by Beethoven's friend Ignaz Schuppanzigh. The Italian guitar virtuoso Mauro Giuliani played cello at the premiere.
Thanks so much for the explanation. I had the UNIQUE CHANCE of listening to this Masterpiece in Mexico, way back in 1981, with this very same "Philarmoniker" but i was conducted by Karl Kleiber... UNDOUBTLEY,, the best CONCERT of my life...
Its extraordinary that a man with a serious hearing impairment wrote such a masterpiece. I like to think the 2nd movement was his reaction to the world around him while battling his own emotions.
Now I've heard the allegro con brio three times under Von Karajan, Fischer and now Thielemann. This is the best version I find, by a mile. But interesting to see how different one and the same piece of music can be.
Las sinfonias de Beethoven todas sublimes pero la 7" para mi corazon es genial !!!!!!!!!! Grcias Dios mio por poder escuchar y apreciar tanta belleza !!!!!!!! Amen Amen !!!!!!!!!! Slava Ukrainii !!!!!!!!!❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤ desde Montevideo Uruguay .
Beethoven transports me to such a wonderful place. I feel bad for people that can’t feel what I feel from great classical music. It’s like a drug. An anti depressant 😁🎼🎶🎶🎶🎶
The third movement seems shorter compared to the version of Ivan Fischer---two and half minutes shorter. It is the length of the first main theme, 2 minute and thirty second shorter.
Alguien sabe como se llama el concertino, el primer violín del primer atril de violines primeros? Porfavor, se los agradecería mucho // Does anyone know the name of the concertmaster, the first violin of the first violin stand? Please, I would really appreciate it.
In three years fortunately they have changed some things. There are more women in the orchestra and also more young people! If you can see, in this performance there is 1 women ... only!!!
If placing too much emphasis on so-called "diversity" compromises the quality of the performance, it would be a case of putting the cart before the horse.
Thielemann... who is Thielemann? an imitator of Karajan ... in his personal style, the kind of pseudo-pathetic interpretation, striving to overcome his unacknowledged idol... permanently performing with so called "Bücklinge" (bowing his body to an imaginative Uberwesen?) slow ore should one say: lame elongations , confronted with exaggerated impulses in the faster sequences... in general : a very uninspiring presentation which leaves all Beetovens potentials and imaginations far behind their actual ...expressive power. einfach schade....
@@philiponcale1820 it's not about comparison... more about the historical aspects of cultural development, so called traditions etc at kind of long time development and it's observation... as -similar to the fine art scene- there people and agents who are interested (particularly economically) in special artists and the media scene contra to the hype as it's taking profit: a win win win game.. but not for the listeners
Yes 92 years. Wandering. (Searching for her) BTW - BA - destructive. Mont. yours - fam - stubborn attachment. Advice is disconnect THEM. Talk to them. (6 years talking to us - non-stop) We are distraught. Names include Chelsea, Barbara, Joy, Jocelyn, Jill, Army etc. Must resolve.
1:05 1movement
13:48 2movement
23:18 3movement
31:26 4movement
You are a hero and a gentleman
@@asabryce1444 thank you sir 😊
The second movement is a freaking master piece
So are the first, third and fourth
And the interpretation of Maestro Thielemann gave a new feeling to it: Far slower and lamenting. The way I like.
😊
❤❤❤
@@JohannaA.5013Way too lachrymose and sentimental. The movement is perfect as it stands. The lily doesn't need to be gilded with a dragging tempo, sobbing phrasing and a mournful atmosphere. If one just plays this movement 'straight', without attention-begging additions from the conductor, we get much closer to Beethoven's ideal.
Beethoven's 7th Symphony is one of his most joyful and energetic works. It was composed between 1811 and 1812, at the same time as his 8th Symphony, and was dedicated to Count Moritz von Fries. The symphony was premiered on December 8, 1813, at a charity concert for wounded soldiers in Vienna, conducted by Beethoven himself. The concert also included his Wellington's Victory and parts of his Mass in C major.
The symphony consists of four movements: a Poco sostenuto - Vivace, an Allegretto, a Presto - Assai meno presto, and an Allegro con brio. The symphony is also known by the nickname "The Apotheosis of the Dance", because of its rhythmic and dance-like character.
The first movement is a fast and lively Vivace, preceded by a slow introduction that sets the mood. The movement follows the sonata form, with two contrasting themes: a cheerful and syncopated theme played by the woodwinds, and a lyrical and flowing theme played by the strings. The development section explores various keys and variations of the themes, before the recapitulation returns to the main themes. The movement ends with a spirited coda that repeats the opening theme.
The second movement is a slow and graceful Allegretto, which follows a variation form. It begins with a simple melody played by the violas and cellos, over a pulsating accompaniment by the second violins. The melody is then varied by different instruments and sections of the orchestra, creating contrast and interest. The movement has a serene and elegant mood.
The third movement is a fast and playful Presto, which follows a ternary form. It begins with a lively theme played by the strings in unison, followed by a contrasting trio section that features a dialogue between the woodwinds and the strings. The presto section returns and leads to a surprising transition to the final movement.
The fourth movement is a fast and triumphant Allegro con brio, which follows a sonata form. It begins with a fanfare-like theme played by the brass and timpani, followed by a joyful melody played by the strings. The development section builds up tension and excitement, before the recapitulation returns to the main themes. The movement ends with a brilliant coda that combines elements from all four movements and concludes with a series of fortissimo chords.
Beethoven's 7th Symphony is a masterpiece of musical innovation and expression. It shows his mastery of orchestration and his ability to create powerful emotions with music. The symphony has inspired many composers and musicians, and has become a symbol of joy and vitality.
Beethoven put together a large orchestra himself with the finest musicians of the days like Antonio Salieri, Ignaz Schuppanzigh (1. violin), Louis Spohr (2. violin), Joseph Mayseder (viola), Mauro Giuliani (violoncello), Nepomuk Hummel, Giacomo Meyerbeer and Giuseppe Siboni. The orchestra was led by Beethoven's friend Ignaz Schuppanzigh. The Italian guitar virtuoso Mauro Giuliani played cello at the premiere.
Thanks so much for the explanation. I had the UNIQUE CHANCE of listening to this Masterpiece in Mexico, way back in 1981, with this very same "Philarmoniker" but i was conducted by Karl Kleiber... UNDOUBTLEY,, the best CONCERT of my life...
This reads like GPT. I really wish people would stop doing this.
By far my favorite interpretation. Not too little, not too much… perfectly building anticipation, then gratifying without being too bombastic.
I enjoyed the very enthusiastic response of the audience. The encores and roars just kept coming!
This is by far one of the best renditions of the seventh symphony. Nice and slow and triumphant.
I always find it so amusing to read comments, which inevitably span from "terrible performance" to "brilliant". To each his own, even when it's wrong!
One knows , if Mr. Thielemann is conducting , it's performed to perfection .
정제되고 아름다워서 더욱 압도적인 크라이막스가 있는 완벽한 작품입니다. 감사합니다. wonderful ~~ bravo
Its extraordinary that a man with a serious hearing impairment wrote such a masterpiece. I like to think the 2nd movement was his reaction to the world around him while battling his own emotions.
Captures the mystery and drama of Beethoven perfectly.
¡Oh, My Lord! The first movement...
It's just so damn magnificent! 🎵🎺🎻
Now I've heard the allegro con brio three times under Von Karajan, Fischer and now Thielemann. This is the best version I find, by a mile. But interesting to see how different one and the same piece of music can be.
Venho aqui praticamente todos os dias ❤👏
I think this is the best ever interpretation of this heavenly piece of music''
Hear the version of Carlos Kleiber -> also with the Wiener Philarmonicsua-cam.com/video/V0Y-GtvfCHw/v-deo.html.
Try Carlos Kleiber and then tell me if you maintain your standpoint.
Also interesting Sergiu Celibidache , what do you think?
@@martinstremlow2997 I maintain my standpoint. Obviously, it's subjective.
Absolutely Fantastic Performance !!!!!
Que maravillosa obra solo compuesta por un genio e interpretada estupendamente. Bravo!.
Best interpretation !
Can’t get any better!
danke chris. so wonderful.
I. poco sostenuto - vivace 01:05
II. allegretto 13:48
III. presto 23:18
IV. allegro con brio 31:26
excitedly watching this before my college performs this next month (: they did just so amazing and with admirable passion!
Muito obrigado. Danke Schön.
The way it’s done
Classical is the finest
Las sinfonias de Beethoven todas sublimes pero la 7" para mi corazon es genial !!!!!!!!!! Grcias Dios mio por poder escuchar y apreciar tanta belleza !!!!!!!! Amen Amen !!!!!!!!!! Slava Ukrainii !!!!!!!!!❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤🇺🇾🇺🇦❤ desde Montevideo Uruguay .
Beethoven transports me to such a wonderful place. I feel bad for people that can’t feel what I feel from great classical music. It’s like a drug. An anti depressant 😁🎼🎶🎶🎶🎶
ГЕРОЯМ СЛАВА!!! ❤🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
the aviated aspirations along with the enlightment of human soul
2nd Movement at 13:48.
Heaven …
alle jahre weder. ein grosses Dankeschön, an den conductor. wer weiss das schon. vielleicht trifft man sich bei einer lesung von heiner müller.
2. Horn 2. Satz: 17:38
Why German and Austrian Conductors are the best for Beethoven? Right answers only.
1:38、2:52、6:05、6:15、9:22
15:31
23:22
31:29、35:34
The third movement seems shorter compared to the version of Ivan Fischer---two and half minutes shorter. It is the length of the first main theme, 2 minute and thirty second shorter.
Alguien sabe como se llama el concertino, el primer violín del primer atril de violines primeros? Porfavor, se los agradecería mucho // Does anyone know the name of the concertmaster, the first violin of the first violin stand? Please, I would really appreciate it.
What!? No shouts of Bravo?
Whaouuu🤩
36:42 walter white
Breaking Bongo
bro looks like danny devito at the far right 3:00
big chungus tpose
Not very far from there, a great disarmament conference is occurring.
Er ist Karajans letzter Schüler.
He is Karajan's last disciple.
13:48
4:26 1st Theme
31:26
kakie prelestnye mal'chiki- zajchiki... "i lapochka dochka"
CT should have called out the flautist for acknowledgement. . . .
Un critico dell 'epoca disse del 4 movimento ( è un serpente che si aggroviglia ) .Non aveva capito niente ! 🔥🤨
how many women are in this orchestra?
In three years fortunately they have changed some things. There are more women in the orchestra and also more young people! If you can see, in this performance there is 1 women ... only!!!
@@mariaatk4241 I thought I saw 2 women musicians in this performance. But clearly the Vienna Phil is WAAY behind the times when it comes to diversity.
It’s obvious that the quality of the music is completely more important than „DIVERSITY“
If placing too much emphasis on so-called "diversity" compromises the quality of the performance, it would be a case of putting the cart before the horse.
@@ルスパピ-e7y I'll take Abbado's Berlin Phil any day - from Karajan's
correct me if I´m wrong but is there onyl one woman in the orchestra? what?
That's the reason I'm watching this video
What’s the problem？
why do you bring that s**t? you become member by MERIT not gender. BTW there are
2 women
Herr Thielemann is better than Roger Norrington.
Of course!! And Is Better than Rattler and many "emergenti" and emerged conductors..
@@francoziliani7631 This was my joke.🤣
Es fehlen mehr Frauen und normales dresseing schaut ein wenig aus wie der Pensionsten Verband auf UA-cam gibt es mehr besseres
Thielemann... who is Thielemann? an imitator of Karajan ... in his personal style, the kind of pseudo-pathetic interpretation, striving to overcome his unacknowledged idol... permanently performing with so called "Bücklinge" (bowing his body to an imaginative Uberwesen?) slow ore should one say: lame elongations , confronted with exaggerated impulses in the faster sequences... in general : a very uninspiring presentation which leaves all Beetovens potentials and imaginations far behind their actual ...expressive power. einfach schade....
Halts Maul
Wow, it's clear you don't like Thielmann much.
And what have you accomplished in comparison?
@@philiponcale1820 it's not about comparison... more about the historical aspects of cultural development, so called traditions etc at kind of long time development and it's observation... as -similar to the fine art scene- there people and agents who are interested (particularly economically) in special artists and the media scene contra to the hype as it's taking profit: a win win win game.. but not for the listeners
@@philiponcale1820you are out of discussion
Yes 92 years. Wandering. (Searching for her) BTW - BA - destructive. Mont. yours - fam - stubborn attachment. Advice is disconnect THEM. Talk to them. (6 years talking to us - non-stop) We are distraught. Names include Chelsea, Barbara, Joy, Jocelyn, Jill, Army etc. Must resolve.
2.Horn 3.Satz: 25:12