The part about The Silmarillion: "The big one. The crusher of dreams."; I get what you mean by that but it also is the maker of dreams. Such an epic story. ^o^
I read the silmarillion first after I saw the movies and was I interested my teacher suggested trying it as it would provide greater insight a feel when reading the others and like ya It real do
I remember when I was a kid, I read Fellowship, was barely able to finish it, constantly falling asleep 😄 Then I read Hobbit, and after that everything became smooth and fun and I finished LoTR trilogy in no time. And a little bit after, I read Silmarillion
You were lucky, as a kid I was forced to read the Silmarillion by my parents. I hadn't read or watched any of the books or films so I was very lost. After the first chapter I kind of threw it in the garbage and told my parents I had lost it lol. Although I do have a copy, I still haven't read it, these videos have made it much easier to understand!
At 12 or so i tried reading the lord of the rings. Bore me to death! At 18 it's my all time favorite. I'm reading the hobbit now, and next year I'll dive into the silmarillion
I read the silmarillion first and I do not regret it one bit. It was very interesting because it was a challenge to read. I had to go back and forth, reread chapters or even full sections.
I can't pass through The Two Towers. Especially when Frodo and Sam were trying to go to Mordor. Dialogues are so limited. It's mainly descriptions of what their path looks like. I just can't imagine it as I didn't grow up in the countryside. I don't know how those trees described look like 😥
The fact that you needed a YT vid to explain HOW to read the Tolkien books says it all really. And when it’s all laid out in front of you gives a great perspective as to just how expansive and deep the rabbit hole goes. Great vid, thanks Mr Nerd!
Honestly, what helped by far the most is acquainting myself to the Lore by watching UA-cam videos) Your channel was among them - I knew since you were barely at 90k!
I would say watch the extended edition of Peter Jackson's LotR trilogy. If they fall in love with the world they see on screen, they will eventually read all the books, even if they have to borrow them from a library. If they think the movies are just okay or good, they probably won't finish reading any of the books.
@@Eowyn3Pride I agree that readers of Tolkien's Legendarium absolutely need good maps to refer to. I depended heavily on The Atlas of Middle Earth. I photocopied and cut and folded the maps and kept them in the books. They are still there. lol
When I was a kid my mom gave me a whole tower of children comic book magazines from her childhood called "Rainbow" . Those magazines had many series in them, some for small children , others for teens. While I was reading I was captured by one of the series called "Bilbo Baggins" . I loved this story so much that kept re-reading it all the time. An year or two later my family and I were watching some movie called "Lord of the rings" and I think you can imagine my surprise when they mention Gollum and Bilbo. Shortly afterwards I bought myself "The Hobbit" book and the rest is history. I still return to my "Rainbow" magazines from time to time to thank them for introducing me to Tolkien's world.
When anyone asks about the Silmarillion, I ask them if they like the appendices in LotR. I think that is the best barometer of whether they will be able to finish it.
@@thekillers1stfan It has a significantly different and archaic writing style and it is hard to skip the dense beginning chapters. It doesn't help that you have to keep so many characters straight, especially Finwe, Fingolfin, Finarfin, Fingon, Finrod, Finduilas, and Feanor.
I read the Silmarillion directly after the trilogy, and I had no problem doing so because your channel had already prepared me for and helped me get familiar with all the stories/characters/places/etc. So thank you very much!! Keep making awesome videos!
@@insurrbutionno it's not. Originally Tolkien wanted the lotr to be six books. It's Peter Jackson and new line cinema who have this weird trilogy's obsession
I would also include The Atlas of Middle-Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. Great guide to have nearby when reading the Silmarillion, The Hobbit or Lord of the rings.
Totally agree. I just finished reading it after reading The Hobbit, The Trilogy, and the Simarillion. Going to read the The Children next, then reread The Sim using the atlas.
@@matthewsmith4170I’m 100% with you on that ! The Atlas is offering the perfect keys to a better understanding of both time and space in Tolkien’s mighty landscape. Scholar Wynn Fonstad works are unmatched. Luckily, we now have a fantastic French adaptation of the Atlas, which is such a great companion while (re)reading The Sim and all the older tales.
I've started my Tolkien readings with The Silmarillion and, honestly, I loved it. Best way to dive into Arda and to learn about all the background that precedes LOTR.
Haha, great topic! I asked that question of the reading order myself. As a Teen I said „Start with the Silmarlion and read the books in chronological order“. In my twenties I said „Start with The Lord Of The Rings, one of the greatest stories ever“. And now as a father in my thirties I say: „start with the Hobbit, a ‚childern‘ story.“ Happy reading 🙂
I've read through most of these a couple times now. A few years ago, a friend showed me a website where I could read Tolkien's writings in chronological order of Middle Earth. Since I already knew the characters and stories it was a fun read through.
i would love to check that site out if you could provide the link please? i've always been curious about a more chronological order of things not the ' easiest to heaviest' listing i find everywhere
I’ll be honest, I love Lord of the Rings but my favorite is The Simarillion. my first reading of the Simarillion was accompanied by the audiobook. It immersed me into the world. I couldn’t get enough of the book! It was soo good and the stories were so interesting! Feonor and his pride and all the family and house kin connected to his Simarils, the lore ,I was filled with wonder at each story and the events, I just had to buy more of Tolkien’s books. The Children of Hurirn, Beren and Luthien and The Fall of Gondolin were in deep immersions into the fascinating stories told in the Simarillion. They had they’re own gripping events. The reason I believe the Simarillion is the best is becuase it encompasses everything that makes this world so amazing
Thank you for the information. If I may ask, what do you mean by that the audiobook accompanied your reading? Would you read and listen at the same time? Is that something you would recommend? Look forward hearing your advice :)
I just worked my way through pretty much everything, albeit in a much more insane order. I like your approach of starting with the better known books very much.
For me, the perfect order is: The Silmarillion, Beren and Lúthien, The Children of Turin, The Hobbit, The Lord of The Rings and then Unfinished Tales. Good reading!
This is immensely helpful! I have yet to read anything other than The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and I have never been sure where to go next. Thanks for the recommendations!
I had some failed attempts at reading The Silmarillion where I only got a few chapters in. It was only since the first lockdown that I finally got through it, Unfinished Tales, and the 3 Great Tales. Can't wait to finish the 12 volume History of Middle-Earth series.
This video is great! I'm 16 and have read the Hobbit, LOTR, and the Silmarilion and have adored them all. A friend and I have become complete nuts about Tolkien and his work and we're both huge fans of your vids! I'll definitely use this list as a reference for engulfing myself in Tolkien over the summer. Thank you for the great content!
This is a fantastic video and I look forward to beginning "The Children of Hurin" as I have finished "The Lord of the Rings" in the last couple months. The only addition I would make to this is at the very beginning prior to reading "The Hobbit": Humphrey Carpenter's biography of the man himself, J.R.R Tolkien. I read it right before I started "The Hobbit" earlier in the year and I was so glad I did. It helped me understand the man behind the myths and gave me a deeper appreciation for what he was writing. I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it yet.
Thank you! My mum started to read the hobbit to me when I was in elementary school, because I didn’t like reading and was lacking vocabulary and grammar knowledge. I highly recommend the Silmarillion version on audible, if you are struggling with lack of time.
Your channel is a godsend. I started reading Tolkien in 1966 when I was 15 and when I got to the end of The Return of the King I just turned around and started all over again. At one point I even read the entire thing out loud to myself starting with The Hobbit. The addition of Christopher Tolkien books on his father's manuscript has been incredibly important. I'm going to have to get some of the other books that you recommended. I'm one of those that has tried numerous times and failed to plow my way through the silmarillion. As I like to say, I have a vacation property in the Shire
Before even watching, I'll say this; Thanks for getting me excited to get into this legendarium again! Your videos are amazing. Edit: Just finished with your list. I wholeheartedly agree. The reason many leave the epic of the Silmarilion is because the Hobbit and LOTR do little to prepare you for it. Watching this channel and reading the Children of Hurin before the Silmarilion is the actual way to read the legendarium.
i just got gifted a set of the books including the hobbit for christmas. i was obsessed with the movies and then more obsessed with lore videos but never read the books because videos are more densely packed with information and visuals. i’m starting with the hobbit and i love it, even though tolkien’s vision of his world was much different than our modern interpretations of the world he presents. since the hobbit was written 20 years before lord of the rings was published.
Multiple readings are always a good idea. The best way to read the Silmarillion is just to read it and read it again. Tolkien's writing thrives on multiple passes through because even his more simple writings reveal new insights upon closer inspection. The Silmarillion just forces you to take your time, and taking the same approach with all of his works is definitely worth your time. I read the Hobbit, the Lord of the Rings, the Silmarillion,and the Children of Hurin once a year at least. The last few years I've read them two or three times a year. I've been a fan of LOTR since I saw the film's when I was 5. When I started reading the books I was 11, and being slightly younger than I'd recommend to start, I had to reread the books (and reread pages and paragraphs several times) to understand it.
I did the audiobook AND physical book in tandem when I did Silmarillion. So I couldn’t lose focus. Doused my senses in Tolkien. Remembering the Appendices, Family Trees and Map in the back of the book, and not being afraid to pause and flick to them regularly is SO key to fully following everything. That’s my biggest tip for anyone else trying to read it 👌🏻
Not exactly a read but the art of the Lord of the rings by j r r Tolkien (edited by Christina Scull and Wayne Hammond) is a beautiful book to add to the collection
If you're having trouble with the Silmarillion, it's good to look at Lord of the Rings wikis or maps. Especially for the onslaught of character and location names, often dozens per page. It helps if you can visualize what locations and very similarly named characters look like. It's more of a history book than a story, so it's not like you'll be looking up spoilers. Otherwise you might be in for a shock when you come upon one of the many pages that mention twenty place names and characters, never knowing if they are pivotal or mentioned just in passing. For example, there's a chapter about the geography of a region and its inhabitants and kings, and in about seven pages you casually get hit with: - Beleriand - The Noldor - The Eldar - Melkor - Morgoth - Middle-Earth - Ered Engrin - The Iron Mountains - Utumno - The regions of the everlasting cold - Valinor - Angband - Thangorodrim - The Hells of Iron - The War of Powers - The Valar - Ard-galen - The coming of the Sun - Hísilómë - The Land of Mist - Hithlum - The Sindar - The Siege of Angband - Ered Lómin - The Echoing Mountains - Ered Wethrin - The Shadowy Mountains - Ard-galen - The Vale of Sirion - Fingolfin - Fingon - Mithrim - The great lake - Dor-lómin - The Mountains of Mithrim - Eithel Sirion - Maedhros - Losgar - The Firth of Drengist - Nevrast - The Hither Shore - Sindarin - Mount Taras - Turgon - Ivrin - Linaewen - Grey-elves - Ulmo - Ossë - Vinyamar - Dorthonion - Doriath - Angrod - Aegnor - Finarfin - Finrod Felagund - Nargothrond - Sirion - The Pass of Sirion - Tol Sirion - Minas Tirith - Orodreth - Bay of Balar - West Beleriand - Forest of Brethil - Teiglin - Narog - Nan-tathren - The Land of Willows - Nenning - Falas - Círdan - Brithombar - Eglarest - Barad Nimras - The Havens - Isle of Balar - East Beleriand - Gelion - Ossiriand - Mindeb - Esgalduin - Dimbar - Crissaegrim - Nan Durgortheb - Melian - Ered Gorgoroth - Mountains of Terror - Ungoliant - Balrogs - The Siege - Iant Iaur - Dor Dínen - The Silent land - Arossiach - The Fords of Aros - Fëanor - Thingol - The Hidden King - Neldoreth - Aros - Region - Caves of Menegroth - The Meres of Twilight - Aelin-uial - Taur-en-Faroth - Ringwil - High Faroth - The Gates of Sirion - Andram - The Long Wall - Ramdal - The Wall's End - Vale of Gelion - Denethor - The Nandor - Dark Elves - Taur-im-Duinath - The Forest Between the Rivers - Little Gelion - Greater Gelion - Hill of Himring - Mount Rerir - Ered Luin - Ascar - Rathlóriel - Thalos - Legolin - Brilthor - Duilwen - Adurant - The Land of Seven Rivers - Tol Galen - Lindon - The March of Maedhros - The sons of Faënor - Lothlann - The Hill of Himring - The Ever-Cold - Pass of Aglon - Himlad - Celegorm - Curufin - Aros - Celon - Maglor - The Third Batlle - Caranthir - Maglor's Gap - Lake Helevorn - Thargelion - Dor Caranthir - Talath Rhúnen - The East Vale - The greenwoods - Amrod - Amras Good luck remembering all that without visualizing it.
Never thought the silmarillion was a challenge for others than me, I finished it for the third time last week , still have four more to go, thanks Eru for a book reading order , and YES the audio book helped A LOT the names are better digested , I don't remember any of then though
Thank you for this. This helps a lot. I’ve read LOTR and the Hobbit several times and I love them. A few years ago I saw the Children of Hurin at a cousin’s house and I borrowed it. After a couple chapters, I realized I was completely lost and had no clue what I was talking about. That’s what first opened my eyes to history and works of Middle Earth outside LOTR. I knew at some point I would have to take a dive into it all. I didn’t know where to begin. And then I discovered your channel. I started bingeing your content. And that has awoken in me the desire to dig further. I bought Silmarillion, Children of Hurin and Unfinished Tales. I’ve started Silmarillion. Life has gotten busy and I got distracted by important things, so I had to restart it. And now I’m into it. At times, I will pause and watch videos by you and Voice if Geekdom and those are helping make it easy. I’m excited. But I wasn’t sure how I should proceed. This helps. Thank you for everything you do. You have made a difference in my fandom.
I "found" Tolkien in grade 8. Never heard of him before that. I happened to pick up "The Two Towers" first and read it without knowing about the series or anything else. I fell in love with it and realized there was more than this first book, but still didn't know who Tolkien was, but I found the other two books of this series; The Fellowship of the Ring and the Return of the King. I went looking for more books by Tolkien and this is when I finally learned about the "Tolkien World" and fell in love with the world. In the end, just read. I don't think it really matters. Have fun!!
Reading History of and Nature of at the moment. Love them. The Silmarillion 'Crusher of Dreams ' is still my favorite of all JRRT's works. But it took me years to discover it's utter brilliance.
I was fifteen when I read La Hobbbit and LOTR and I remember grinding through The Council of Elrond and how I thought it was so boring. However, my appreciation for JRRT has only grown in time and I appreciate his works much more now. I have since started my second reading of The Silmarilli and I appreciate it much more.
Thank you for the list it will for sure be in need because i just finished The Lord of the rings a couple of days ago and wasn't really sure with what to continiue!
This Was really well-done @Nerd of the Rings! I 100% agree with your order and I really want to join the Book Club! I want to read through all of it from start to finish!!! =D
I read all the books on the list in the exact order you said to several years ago (except for the ones I missed: sons of Húrin, Lay of Beren and Lúthien, everything in the History of Middle-Earth except for the lost tales one and two, and the last two things you recommended). I'm 14 and have never been bored of reading anything on the list. Gondolin and Unfinished Tales were particularly good.
Thank you so much! I've wanted to explore the other books beyond Lord of the Rings, but was so intimidated. I will definitely be following your recommendation!
Found a copy of Children of Hurin at my local bookstore for $4 and began reading it. I was a little lost with all the references at first but I'm glad to know I'm on the right track in your opinion haha
Hi! I agree on your reading order, but I still can’t understand why everybody keeps saying that "The Silmarillion" is the most difficult thing or that you have to be "prepared" to read it or people abandoning the reading because it´s too hard. I think it´s an exaggeration that almost became a “myth” and it´s a shame that people shy away from it, because, for me, it´s the best of all. The first time I read it, I couldn´t take my hands out of it. Not really a struggle at all. In my opinion "LOTR" is far more complex to read, a LOT of landscape description and obviously much much longer. I can see why people can´t get through "The History of Middle Earth" though, well... THAT´s a hard read. (But a really rewarding one 😉 )Thank you for all your work!
Totally agree! Once you get past the initial challenge, it's such a rewarding read. It's definitely the heart of Tolkien's world. I even made a short exploring the history of Númenor-it’s such a fascinating part of Middle-earth's past. Would love for you to check it out if you're into that kind of lore!
1:23 - I read the Hobbit and LOTR first. The Silmarillion was hard at first but for me it was definitely harder to retain and remember than other books but I’m reading it again and enjoying it. But when I first got started I ended up listening to Children of Hurin before (after LOTR) so I kind of read both at the same time.
Thank you very, very much for your hard work on this channel. The illustrated story summaries made it easy for me to read The Simillarion. I could picture the stories in my head and this made them easy to comprehend. Tolkien himself I am sure would be thankful for what have done!
I got through reading the Silmarillion in a month and I actually LOVED reading through this book, and I can see how many would find it tough chew to swallow. As an inspired fantasy writer myself I can see how Tolkien spent many years trying to write these books.
I 100% support this read order. Children of Hurin is fantastic, and it really does give enough context for the Silmarillion to kinda almost make sense on the first read.
Overall I would agree with the this order, except for putting Children of Hurin in the middle. It is certainly a lot more approachable than The Sulmarillion, but if you are going to go past the first 4 books I think you would do better to just dive right in. I've read The Sil about 4-5 times now and there are really just two things to keep in mind when approaching it. 1. It is NOT a prequel to TLotR. It is not a novel AT ALL. It is not even a set of short stories or novellas. It is a group of mythic and epic tales similar to Bulfinch's Mythology. 2. Some people have "many names". Just like in TLotR The Sil has a LOT of characters. Way more than TLotR, which itself has quite a few. And just like TLotR which has Strider aka Aragorn aka Elessar and Gandalf aka Mithrandir aka Olorin aka Incannus aka Tharkun, The Sil has those people who can be referenced by different names at different times, like Thingol aka Elwe aka Elu (not to be confused with Eru). It might be worth doing a prep video for reading The Sil that points out the difference in the prose style as well as the tricky characters that pop up repeatedly. Not to mention a quick pronunciation guide since almost NOBODY has a name like "Sam" or "Bilbo" or "Frodo".
I find it very odd that you did not mention The Atlas of Middle Earth. For me it's a must have when you read almost any Tolkien book. I had trouble reading the Silmarillion because I could not locate cities and areas on the map. But they are SO well portrayed in that book. Even the travels of the fellowship are just drawn in lines. Keep up the good work! Ty for content
Someone suggested I read The History of the Hobbit + by Fonstad’s Atlas of Middle Earth, and I FINALLY was able to make it into the Silmarillion. I’m on chapter 21 now.
I read the lord of the rings first as a teenager and adored it. Hungry for more, I found the hobbit and devoured it in one sitting. Then I picked up the silmarillion and failed. Re-reading the lord of the rings years later I realized it’s due completely to the language. Even the return of the king gets steadily more archaic in its prose and in my first reading I was able to look past that because of the story. Ironically, although many hate the Amazon show, it has piqued my interest again and I think I’ll give the Silmarillion another go. UA-cam channels like this one really help to understand the contexts better and I am grateful for your work on these.
Nice List, Here's mine (which contain new information on Middle Earth, if even just a small amount and were written (primarily) by JRRT, but maybe edited or added to a small bit by CT and other others) (not in any particular reading order): 1.The Hobbit 2. The History of the Hobbit Part 1: Mr. Baggins 3. The History of the Hobbit Part 2: Return to Bag End 4. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Rings 5. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 6. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King 7. Bilbo's Last Song 8. The Road Goes Ever On 9. The Adventures of Tom Bombadil 10. The Silmarillion 11. Unfinished Tales 12. Children of Hurin 13. The Story of Kullervo 14. Beren and Luthien 15. The History of Middle Earth (HOME) Part 1: Book of Lost Tales: Part 1 16. HOME 2: Book of Lost Tales: Part 2 17. HOME 3: Lays of Beleriand 18. HOME 4: The Shaping of Middle-Earth 19. HOME 5: The Lost Road and Other Writings 20. HOME 6: The History of The Lord of the Rings (THoLoTR) : Part 1: Return of The Shadow 21. HOME 7: THoLoTR Part 2: The Treason of Isengard 22. HOME 8: THoLoTR Part 3: The War of the Ring 23. HOME 9: THoLoTR Part 4: Sauron Defeated 24. HOME 10: Morgoth's Ring 25. HOME 11: The War of The Jewels 26. HOME 12: The Peoples of Middle-Earth 27. HOME: Index 28. Pictures by JRRT 29. JRRT: Artist & Illustrator 30. Letters of JRRT 31. The Fall of Gondolin 32. The Nature of Middle-Earth 33. Monsters and The Critics and Other Essays 34. JRRT Biography 35. Roverandom 36. The Fall of Numenor: And Other Tales from The Second Age of Middle-Earth.
Finished reading the Silmarillion for the very first time a few days ago. October last year I read the hobbit and then the Lord of the Rings, also for the first time. Now the silmarillion for me felt like a bible of middle earth. In that it ends with a briefing of the end of the 3rd age. I found it very enjoyable. When I wasn't reading it. I was researching videos from previous chapters and characters. Can't wait to continue reading the rest of Tolkiens books related to Middle Earth. If only I read these when I was a kid.
I would add that a short read that really gives you an insight into Tolkiens philosophy and theology is the essay On Fairie-Stories. Brilliant little piece.
I read The Hobbit again this summer to refresh my memory, and then decided to do a second attempt on LOTR (stopped at page 100 as I felt it was too slow when I was about 15 years old), and ended up considering this the best book I’ve ever read. Just needed patience. I followed your advice, as I was nervous about The Silmarillion, so I read Children Of Hurin first. And so happy I did, as I noticed how it sets the foundation for your knowledge of the first age and it’s map and locations, together with all the elf lords and kings in the different realms. Now I’m half-way through Silmarillion and I have no problems reading it. Only tough part was keeping track of all the valar and maiar at the start, and then the family-tree of Finwe;Feanor/Fingolfin/Finarfin. Other than that it’s been surprisingly easier than expected mainly through what I learned in Children Of Hurin :) (Tip for track of Valar, Maia and Finwe’s family tree: sit with your computer/phone close by, and have two tabs open with a picture of the Valar and Maiar names and characteristics, and a picture of Finwe’s children and their children. Helped me alot to keep track while reading without having to disrupt my rhythm) This video helped alot, thank you so much! Already bought and waiting to read Unfinished Tales, Beren And Luthien, and The Fall Of Gondolin :)
I knew it was not the recomendation, but I decided to go chronologicaly and loved The Silmarillion to the point I've read it 7-8 times when I was 16-17yo. Also, Túrin is my favorite character overall, so it really made love the book even more.
I remember ordering the Silmarillion in three separate volumes from a Borders back when it was available on audio cassette in the late 90s. Since braille has always been very expensive to produce as well as receive, and those volumes would take up insane amounts of shelf space, audio has always been the way to go for me in terms of owning books. Cool to own these on audible these days. I remember getting the Inglis versions of the LOTR trilogy in this huge three volume boxset as a graduation present, and it nearly dwarfed our coffee table. I love the new Serkis versions too. All the books made me want action figures of the baddies for the sake of tactile representation in ye old pre Peter Jackson film days.
My first exposure to The LOTR universe was acutally the 1983 BBC radio play. My dad had it on cassette and I listened to it a lot when I was a kid. Then I found my grandad had a first edition Silmarillion on the shelf when I was about 9 and I devoured it. I'm not sure how, but it took me two years to finish it. My teachers immediately noticed the change in my vocab as I learnt new words. I remember sitting on my bed with the Silmarillion and a very well thumbed dictionary! It was 4 years later I read the Hobbit, and finished it in one sitting. My school library actually had really decent copies of the LOTR trilogy, and I used to pour over the maps in the back of them.
I would recommend taking your time with the Silmarillion. An audio book could help with pronunciation, but I would have been lost without referring to the appendix every page or 2. You read it bit come across a new term, you do not understand then look through the index. Also look for maps online. I have 2 maps of middle earth, one with more human names and one more elvish, a map of Beleriand, and one of the Undying Lands, Numenor and Middle Earth, on my computer ready to reference as I read. I also referenced a couple middle earth wiki's as well to help sort out what I read. I think your reading order was good, I usually would advise Hobbit, LotR, then Silmarillion, and then from there you are probably deep enough to pick and chose as you see fit. But Children of Hurin might actually be a better way to ease people into the Silmarillion.
It would be great to have a video analyzing the narrative differences between The Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion. I think most people are introduced to Tolkien's world by reading LOTR, or maybe the Hobbit. These books read like a present day novel, with a clear daily narrative and precise definition of place and tense. When they get to the Silmarillion, it has an entirely different structure. It's more akin to the works of Homer. Some chapters, such as the chapter "Of Turin Turambar" are very a very detailed narrative. While the chapter on the Great Battle and the Fall of Morgoth seem high and remote.
The Hobbit and LotR being read to me are some of my earliest memories. The Silmarillion is much, *much* easier if you skip past the first couple of parts. Once you're past the part where he names all of the divinities and what they do and get to the part where they come down to Middle Earth and start doing stuff it's much easier to follow. Also, just let all the names wash over you, if they're important you'll hear about them again when they're relevant. Edit: Just to throw it out there the Andy Serkis versions of the audiobooks are fan-freakin-tastic
I have to disagree. Lord of the Rings is far more interesting when one is aware of the way Middle Earth came into being and who has the biggest stakes in the game
Daem I love your videos Mr Nerd. You are basically a historian for the virtaul reality of Mr Tolkien. It is inspiring to see that someone could create a world of pure imagination inspiring enough to have you, and many others, though unfortunately few as adept at making videos, to put in the reseach to make content like this. I am coming at this as someone who's only seen the movies, and read none of the books, and I feel like I have all of my questions are answered by now, but considering I had never heard of Morgoth, and had no idea that Gandalf, Sauron and the balrog were all the same "species" before coming to this channel, I am sure there is more to learn about this wonderful world of imagination Tolkien created.
Wow... I really had no idea there were so many books! I knew about the Hobbit and the Trilogy only. Thank you for this video! I’m reading through the early American historical fiction Leather Stockings series, but want to take a break. SomI thought I’d delve into Tolkien. Thank you!
I first read the Silmarillion at age 11, and while I missed some of the themes I loved the book. By then I had alread read or listened to the Hobbit 3 times and LOTR twice, and I wanted more, so I slogged through the first chapters, then was just enthralled by the rest. That said it is a bit dense and I understand why a lot of people don't care for it. I wish Christopher had taken a couple years longer to finish it, it's a shame he was rushed by the publisher.
I started reading Tolkien with the silmarillion a few months ago, and i’m proud to say that, after several tries (i restarted again twice because i understood nothing of what was happening) i finished it yesterday
I read them mostly in chronological order. It was difficult starting with Silmarillion but seeing the movies first had helped. I just saw the silmarillion sitting on our bookshelf and now recently picked up reading as a hobby because of it
JRR Tolkien's works are quite amazing. When I was in 10th grade (1968), my English class was required to read The Hobbit. I was not happy as fantasy stuff was not my favorite at all. By the time I read three chapters I was hooked. I've since read all of the books mentioned in this video except I took The Silmarillion plunge some years after reading The Lords of the Rings. I read the remaining books over the following years. The Silmarillion can be a tough read, no question, but worth the effort.
The first time I've put my hands on the Silmarillion I've read it all in 2 days. No, I've devoured it! Since then, I've been re-reading it at least once every year...
Thanks for the video. I've been a long-time fan of The Hobbit and LotR (since the late 80's), but had never read the other material. One of my friends is a history professor that streams world history on Twitch and, as bonus subscriber goal streams, has been doing The History of Middle Earth. This has gotten me excited to read all the other material and I've picked up almost all the other books you've highlighted, with 2022 being the year I'm doing the great Tolkien read-a-thon (so I start tomorrow). I wasn't sure what order I'd tackle the books, but this video seems like a great guide and the order I'll likely follow. I can't wait to take this deeper dive into Middle Earth!
I feel like I’m the only one who started with the silmarillion. I always loved the movies as a kid and wanted more lore on the creation and history of middle-earth and that’s exactly what I got.
"The big one. The crusher of dreams." I giggled. But yeah, I have a friend who, at the age of 67, is finally interested in taking the dive. I've gifted her the essentials - Silmarillion, Hobbit, & LotR. The reading order I've recommended to her matches yours, for pretty much the same reasons. Also, except for the last one, I have all of the books you've listed. Now I have another to hunt down.
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The part about The Silmarillion: "The big one. The crusher of dreams."; I get what you mean by that but it also is the maker of dreams. Such an epic story. ^o^
I started 'The Silmarillion' in high school, and after several starts, just finished it... I'm 51 years old!!!
The challenge starts when you try to read the title
@@JPSardinha lmfao💀❤️
@@Jim_N_RFC I’m in high-school and thanks to covid just finished
I read the silmarillion first after I saw the movies and was I interested my teacher suggested trying it as it would provide greater insight a feel when reading the others and like ya It real do
I remember when I was a kid, I read Fellowship, was barely able to finish it, constantly falling asleep 😄 Then I read Hobbit, and after that everything became smooth and fun and I finished LoTR trilogy in no time. And a little bit after, I read Silmarillion
You were lucky, as a kid I was forced to read the Silmarillion by my parents. I hadn't read or watched any of the books or films so I was very lost. After the first chapter I kind of threw it in the garbage and told my parents I had lost it lol. Although I do have a copy, I still haven't read it, these videos have made it much easier to understand!
@@AjReiss-gl1sq Listen to an audiobook recording of the Silmarillion and see if that helps with the experience should you decide to read it.
At 12 or so i tried reading the lord of the rings. Bore me to death! At 18 it's my all time favorite. I'm reading the hobbit now, and next year I'll dive into the silmarillion
I read the silmarillion first and I do not regret it one bit. It was very interesting because it was a challenge to read. I had to go back and forth, reread chapters or even full sections.
I can't pass through The Two Towers. Especially when Frodo and Sam were trying to go to Mordor. Dialogues are so limited. It's mainly descriptions of what their path looks like. I just can't imagine it as I didn't grow up in the countryside. I don't know how those trees described look like 😥
Finally a youtuber who mentions Audiobooks without an advertisement for Audible 😂😂😂
It's funny right as I read this comment the video played an audible ad 😂😂
I’m looking for an audio version without theme music!
The chances of you seeing this is slim and you may have already made a video but where doe the fall of numenor fit in here
That was a first for me. 2nd video of his I've watched today, not on purpose either. Ehh. I'd better sub.
They don’t play that ish in this realm 😂
The fact that you needed a YT vid to explain HOW to read the Tolkien books says it all really. And when it’s all laid out in front of you gives a great perspective as to just how expansive and deep the rabbit hole goes.
Great vid, thanks Mr Nerd!
Just imagine what Christopher had and omitted. I'd love to dig through JRR notes.
don't you mean the hobbit hole 🤣
What tips would you give to someone making their way through Tolkien's world? Let's help folks finally tackle the Silmarillion!
This just really makes me wanna finish/read The New Shadow so we have a definitive conclusion to the Legendarium.
Honestly, what helped by far the most is acquainting myself to the Lore by watching UA-cam videos) Your channel was among them - I knew since you were barely at 90k!
I would say watch the extended edition of Peter Jackson's LotR trilogy. If they fall in love with the world they see on screen, they will eventually read all the books, even if they have to borrow them from a library. If they think the movies are just okay or good, they probably won't finish reading any of the books.
The maps...and Artistic sketches of the Characters themselves, almost how Marvel heroes are set up...
@@Eowyn3Pride
I agree that readers of Tolkien's Legendarium absolutely need good maps to refer to. I depended heavily on The Atlas of Middle Earth. I photocopied and cut and folded the maps and kept them in the books. They are still there. lol
When I was a kid my mom gave me a whole tower of children comic book magazines from her childhood called "Rainbow" . Those magazines had many series in them, some for small children , others for teens. While I was reading I was captured by one of the series called "Bilbo Baggins" . I loved this story so much that kept re-reading it all the time. An year or two later my family and I were watching some movie called "Lord of the rings" and I think you can imagine my surprise when they mention Gollum and Bilbo. Shortly afterwards I bought myself "The Hobbit" book and the rest is history. I still return to my "Rainbow" magazines from time to time to thank them for introducing me to Tolkien's world.
What an adorable story. 😌
When anyone asks about the Silmarillion, I ask them if they like the appendices in LotR. I think that is the best barometer of whether they will be able to finish it.
The appendices are great!
Didn’t read em and I love the Simerilion. The chapter on the dimming of Aman is my one of my favorites in Tolkien.
I disagree, I think the Silmarillion is just difficult because it has a dense, and often abstract, beginning
@@thekillers1stfan It has a significantly different and archaic writing style and it is hard to skip the dense beginning chapters. It doesn't help that you have to keep so many characters straight, especially Finwe, Fingolfin, Finarfin, Fingon, Finrod, Finduilas, and Feanor.
@@JoeMama410 The f-parade. I sometimes just forget about some of those, like Finwe, because we never really get too see him.
I read the Silmarillion directly after the trilogy, and I had no problem doing so because your channel had already prepared me for and helped me get familiar with all the stories/characters/places/etc.
So thank you very much!! Keep making awesome videos!
About to dive in
The Silmarillion is PART of a trilogy:
~ The Hobbit
~ The Lord of the Rings
~ The Silmarillion
@@insurrbutionno it's not. Originally Tolkien wanted the lotr to be six books. It's Peter Jackson and new line cinema who have this weird trilogy's obsession
I would also include The Atlas of Middle-Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. Great guide to have nearby when reading the Silmarillion, The Hobbit or Lord of the rings.
Totally agree. I just finished reading it after reading The Hobbit, The Trilogy, and the Simarillion. Going to read the The Children next, then reread The Sim using the atlas.
@@matthewsmith4170I’m 100% with you on that ! The Atlas is offering the perfect keys to a better understanding of both time and space in Tolkien’s mighty landscape. Scholar Wynn Fonstad works are unmatched. Luckily, we now have a fantastic French adaptation of the Atlas, which is such a great companion while (re)reading The Sim and all the older tales.
I've started my Tolkien readings with The Silmarillion and, honestly, I loved it. Best way to dive into Arda and to learn about all the background that precedes LOTR.
Haha, great topic! I asked that question of the reading order myself.
As a Teen I said „Start with the Silmarlion and read the books in chronological order“.
In my twenties I said „Start with The Lord Of The Rings, one of the greatest stories ever“.
And now as a father in my thirties I say: „start with the Hobbit, a ‚childern‘ story.“
Happy reading 🙂
I think hobbit or watch the movies
I've read through most of these a couple times now. A few years ago, a friend showed me a website where I could read Tolkien's writings in chronological order of Middle Earth. Since I already knew the characters and stories it was a fun read through.
i would love to check that site out if you could provide the link please? i've always been curious about a more chronological order of things not the ' easiest to heaviest' listing i find everywhere
@@inolynch7526 This is where I found it. www.chronology.org/tolkientable/calculator.html
Drop that link bro
I like the way you presented this list with supporting reasons and justification.
I’ll be honest, I love Lord of the Rings but my favorite is The Simarillion. my first reading of the Simarillion was accompanied by the audiobook. It immersed me into the world. I couldn’t get enough of the book! It was soo good and the stories were so interesting! Feonor and his pride and all the family and house kin connected to his Simarils, the lore ,I was filled with wonder at each story and the events, I just had to buy more of Tolkien’s books. The Children of Hurirn, Beren and Luthien and The Fall of Gondolin were in deep immersions into the fascinating stories told in the Simarillion. They had they’re own gripping events. The reason I believe the Simarillion is the best is becuase it encompasses everything that makes this world so amazing
Yes
Beren and Luthien was a hard one to get through though. Like listening to a song on repeat.
Read the Silmarillion three times, love it!
Thank you for the information. If I may ask, what do you mean by that the audiobook accompanied your reading? Would you read and listen at the same time? Is that something you would recommend? Look forward hearing your advice :)
i am just on my 187th try reading the Silmarillion xD *jk*
I just worked my way through pretty much everything, albeit in a much more insane order. I like your approach of starting with the better known books very much.
For me, the perfect order is: The Silmarillion, Beren and Lúthien, The Children of Turin, The Hobbit, The Lord of The Rings and then Unfinished Tales. Good reading!
3:26 „The Silmarilion is more biblical“. Indeed!
This is immensely helpful! I have yet to read anything other than The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and I have never been sure where to go next. Thanks for the recommendations!
I had some failed attempts at reading The Silmarillion where I only got a few chapters in. It was only since the first lockdown that I finally got through it, Unfinished Tales, and the 3 Great Tales. Can't wait to finish the 12 volume History of Middle-Earth series.
This video is great! I'm 16 and have read the Hobbit, LOTR, and the Silmarilion and have adored them all. A friend and I have become complete nuts about Tolkien and his work and we're both huge fans of your vids! I'll definitely use this list as a reference for engulfing myself in Tolkien over the summer. Thank you for the great content!
This is a fantastic video and I look forward to beginning "The Children of Hurin" as I have finished "The Lord of the Rings" in the last couple months. The only addition I would make to this is at the very beginning prior to reading "The Hobbit": Humphrey Carpenter's biography of the man himself, J.R.R Tolkien. I read it right before I started "The Hobbit" earlier in the year and I was so glad I did. It helped me understand the man behind the myths and gave me a deeper appreciation for what he was writing. I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it yet.
Thank you!
My mum started to read the hobbit to me when I was in elementary school, because I didn’t like reading and was lacking vocabulary and grammar knowledge.
I highly recommend the Silmarillion version on audible, if you are struggling with lack of time.
Your channel is a godsend. I started reading Tolkien in 1966 when I was 15 and when I got to the end of The Return of the King I just turned around and started all over again. At one point I even read the entire thing out loud to myself starting with The Hobbit. The addition of Christopher Tolkien books on his father's manuscript has been incredibly important. I'm going to have to get some of the other books that you recommended. I'm one of those that has tried numerous times and failed to plow my way through the silmarillion. As I like to say, I have a vacation property in the Shire
Before even watching, I'll say this; Thanks for getting me excited to get into this legendarium again! Your videos are amazing.
Edit: Just finished with your list. I wholeheartedly agree. The reason many leave the epic of the Silmarilion is because the Hobbit and LOTR do little to prepare you for it.
Watching this channel and reading the Children of Hurin before the Silmarilion is the actual way to read the legendarium.
i just got gifted a set of the books including the hobbit for christmas. i was obsessed with the movies and then more obsessed with lore videos but never read the books because videos are more densely packed with information and visuals. i’m starting with the hobbit and i love it, even though tolkien’s vision of his world was much different than our modern interpretations of the world he presents. since the hobbit was written 20 years before lord of the rings was published.
Multiple readings are always a good idea. The best way to read the Silmarillion is just to read it and read it again. Tolkien's writing thrives on multiple passes through because even his more simple writings reveal new insights upon closer inspection. The Silmarillion just forces you to take your time, and taking the same approach with all of his works is definitely worth your time. I read the Hobbit, the Lord of the Rings, the Silmarillion,and the Children of Hurin once a year at least. The last few years I've read them two or three times a year. I've been a fan of LOTR since I saw the film's when I was 5. When I started reading the books I was 11, and being slightly younger than I'd recommend to start, I had to reread the books (and reread pages and paragraphs several times) to understand it.
Today I finished LoTR, The Fellowship of the Ring. Excited to start the next book. This channel has me falling in love with Middle-earth.
I did the audiobook AND physical book in tandem when I did Silmarillion. So I couldn’t lose focus. Doused my senses in Tolkien.
Remembering the Appendices, Family Trees and Map in the back of the book, and not being afraid to pause and flick to them regularly is SO key to fully following everything. That’s my biggest tip for anyone else trying to read it 👌🏻
Not exactly a read but the art of the Lord of the rings by j r r Tolkien (edited by Christina Scull and Wayne Hammond) is a beautiful book to add to the collection
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If you're having trouble with the Silmarillion, it's good to look at Lord of the Rings wikis or maps. Especially for the onslaught of character and location names, often dozens per page. It helps if you can visualize what locations and very similarly named characters look like. It's more of a history book than a story, so it's not like you'll be looking up spoilers. Otherwise you might be in for a shock when you come upon one of the many pages that mention twenty place names and characters, never knowing if they are pivotal or mentioned just in passing.
For example, there's a chapter about the geography of a region and its inhabitants and kings, and in about seven pages you casually get hit with:
- Beleriand
- The Noldor
- The Eldar
- Melkor
- Morgoth
- Middle-Earth
- Ered Engrin
- The Iron Mountains
- Utumno
- The regions of the everlasting cold
- Valinor
- Angband
- Thangorodrim
- The Hells of Iron
- The War of Powers
- The Valar
- Ard-galen
- The coming of the Sun
- Hísilómë
- The Land of Mist
- Hithlum
- The Sindar
- The Siege of Angband
- Ered Lómin
- The Echoing Mountains
- Ered Wethrin
- The Shadowy Mountains
- Ard-galen
- The Vale of Sirion
- Fingolfin
- Fingon
- Mithrim
- The great lake
- Dor-lómin
- The Mountains of Mithrim
- Eithel Sirion
- Maedhros
- Losgar
- The Firth of Drengist
- Nevrast
- The Hither Shore
- Sindarin
- Mount Taras
- Turgon
- Ivrin
- Linaewen
- Grey-elves
- Ulmo
- Ossë
- Vinyamar
- Dorthonion
- Doriath
- Angrod
- Aegnor
- Finarfin
- Finrod Felagund
- Nargothrond
- Sirion
- The Pass of Sirion
- Tol Sirion
- Minas Tirith
- Orodreth
- Bay of Balar
- West Beleriand
- Forest of Brethil
- Teiglin
- Narog
- Nan-tathren
- The Land of Willows
- Nenning
- Falas
- Círdan
- Brithombar
- Eglarest
- Barad Nimras
- The Havens
- Isle of Balar
- East Beleriand
- Gelion
- Ossiriand
- Mindeb
- Esgalduin
- Dimbar
- Crissaegrim
- Nan Durgortheb
- Melian
- Ered Gorgoroth
- Mountains of Terror
- Ungoliant
- Balrogs
- The Siege
- Iant Iaur
- Dor Dínen
- The Silent land
- Arossiach
- The Fords of Aros
- Fëanor
- Thingol
- The Hidden King
- Neldoreth
- Aros
- Region
- Caves of Menegroth
- The Meres of Twilight
- Aelin-uial
- Taur-en-Faroth
- Ringwil
- High Faroth
- The Gates of Sirion
- Andram
- The Long Wall
- Ramdal
- The Wall's End
- Vale of Gelion
- Denethor
- The Nandor
- Dark Elves
- Taur-im-Duinath
- The Forest Between the Rivers
- Little Gelion
- Greater Gelion
- Hill of Himring
- Mount Rerir
- Ered Luin
- Ascar
- Rathlóriel
- Thalos
- Legolin
- Brilthor
- Duilwen
- Adurant
- The Land of Seven Rivers
- Tol Galen
- Lindon
- The March of Maedhros
- The sons of Faënor
- Lothlann
- The Hill of Himring
- The Ever-Cold
- Pass of Aglon
- Himlad
- Celegorm
- Curufin
- Aros
- Celon
- Maglor
- The Third Batlle
- Caranthir
- Maglor's Gap
- Lake Helevorn
- Thargelion
- Dor Caranthir
- Talath Rhúnen
- The East Vale
- The greenwoods
- Amrod
- Amras
Good luck remembering all that without visualizing it.
Never thought the silmarillion was a challenge for others than me, I finished it for the third time last week , still have four more to go, thanks Eru for a book reading order , and YES the audio book helped A LOT the names are better digested , I don't remember any of then though
It is absolutely wild how completely in line with my reading order this is. Even down to the help of the audio book for the silmarillion
Thanks for the video, this has guided me so much. I am currently with 14 years finishing the lord of the rings with desire of starting new books!
Thank you for this. This helps a lot. I’ve read LOTR and the Hobbit several times and I love them. A few years ago I saw the Children of Hurin at a cousin’s house and I borrowed it. After a couple chapters, I realized I was completely lost and had no clue what I was talking about. That’s what first opened my eyes to history and works of Middle Earth outside LOTR. I knew at some point I would have to take a dive into it all. I didn’t know where to begin. And then I discovered your channel. I started bingeing your content. And that has awoken in me the desire to dig further. I bought Silmarillion, Children of Hurin and Unfinished Tales. I’ve started Silmarillion. Life has gotten busy and I got distracted by important things, so I had to restart it. And now I’m into it. At times, I will pause and watch videos by you and Voice if Geekdom and those are helping make it easy. I’m excited. But I wasn’t sure how I should proceed. This helps. Thank you for everything you do. You have made a difference in my fandom.
I have recently become aware of your channel and have enjoyed a small binge of them. Keep up the great work.
And, "Debbie". I always love to hear that at the end.
My first read through of the Silmarillion was hard going, but I have found with every subsequent reading, it gets easier and more enjoyable. :)
I "found" Tolkien in grade 8. Never heard of him before that. I happened to pick up "The Two Towers" first and read it without knowing about the series or anything else. I fell in love with it and realized there was more than this first book, but still didn't know who Tolkien was, but I found the other two books of this series; The Fellowship of the Ring and the Return of the King. I went looking for more books by Tolkien and this is when I finally learned about the "Tolkien World" and fell in love with the world. In the end, just read. I don't think it really matters. Have fun!!
Reading History of and Nature of at the moment. Love them. The Silmarillion 'Crusher of Dreams ' is still my favorite of all JRRT's works. But it took me years to discover it's utter brilliance.
I was fifteen when I read La Hobbbit and LOTR and I remember grinding through The Council of Elrond and how I thought it was so boring. However, my appreciation for JRRT has only grown in time and I appreciate his works much more now. I have since started my second reading of The Silmarilli and I appreciate it much more.
Thank you for the list it will for sure be in need because i just finished The Lord of the rings a couple of days ago and wasn't really sure with what to continiue!
This Was really well-done @Nerd of the Rings! I 100% agree with your order and I really want to join the Book Club! I want to read through all of it from start to finish!!! =D
I found The Atlas of Middle-Earth extremely helpful as a supplement when reading the other works
I read all the books on the list in the exact order you said to several years ago (except for the ones I missed: sons of Húrin, Lay of Beren and Lúthien, everything in the History of Middle-Earth except for the lost tales one and two, and the last two things you recommended). I'm 14 and have never been bored of reading anything on the list. Gondolin and Unfinished Tales were particularly good.
Thank you so much! I've wanted to explore the other books beyond Lord of the Rings, but was so intimidated. I will definitely be following your recommendation!
I got The Hobbit and the 3 LoTR for XMas. I'm so hyped to read them all
Thank you very much I will definitely be checking out more of these books
Found a copy of Children of Hurin at my local bookstore for $4 and began reading it. I was a little lost with all the references at first but I'm glad to know I'm on the right track in your opinion haha
Hi! I agree on your reading order, but I still can’t understand why everybody keeps saying that "The Silmarillion" is the most difficult thing or that you have to be "prepared" to read it or people abandoning the reading because it´s too hard. I think it´s an exaggeration that almost became a “myth” and it´s a shame that people shy away from it, because, for me, it´s the best of all. The first time I read it, I couldn´t take my hands out of it. Not really a struggle at all. In my opinion "LOTR" is far more complex to read, a LOT of landscape description and obviously much much longer. I can see why people can´t get through "The History of Middle Earth" though, well... THAT´s a hard read. (But a really rewarding one 😉 )Thank you for all your work!
Totally agree! Once you get past the initial challenge, it's such a rewarding read. It's definitely the heart of Tolkien's world. I even made a short exploring the history of Númenor-it’s such a fascinating part of Middle-earth's past. Would love for you to check it out if you're into that kind of lore!
This is super helpful!!! Have a great new year everyone!
1:23 - I read the Hobbit and LOTR first. The Silmarillion was hard at first but for me it was definitely harder to retain and remember than other books but I’m reading it again and enjoying it. But when I first got started I ended up listening to Children of Hurin before (after LOTR) so I kind of read both at the same time.
Thank you very, very much for your hard work on this channel. The illustrated story summaries made it easy for me to read The Simillarion. I could picture the stories in my head and this made them easy to comprehend. Tolkien himself I am sure would be thankful for what have done!
This is outstanding! I'm just diving into Middle Earth and your channel has been the best of the best. I think Tolkien would be proud of your work.
although not middle-earth, do also read A Leaf by Niggle and Smith of Wootton Major which are two of his finest literary achievements.
Leaf by niggle is actually my fave tolkien work ^^
I got through reading the Silmarillion in a month and I actually LOVED reading through this book, and I can see how many would find it tough chew to swallow. As an inspired fantasy writer myself I can see how Tolkien spent many years trying to write these books.
My TBR list has increased. Thanks
I 100% support this read order. Children of Hurin is fantastic, and it really does give enough context for the Silmarillion to kinda almost make sense on the first read.
Overall I would agree with the this order, except for putting Children of Hurin in the middle. It is certainly a lot more approachable than The Sulmarillion, but if you are going to go past the first 4 books I think you would do better to just dive right in. I've read The Sil about 4-5 times now and there are really just two things to keep in mind when approaching it.
1. It is NOT a prequel to TLotR. It is not a novel AT ALL. It is not even a set of short stories or novellas. It is a group of mythic and epic tales similar to Bulfinch's Mythology.
2. Some people have "many names". Just like in TLotR The Sil has a LOT of characters. Way more than TLotR, which itself has quite a few. And just like TLotR which has Strider aka Aragorn aka Elessar and Gandalf aka Mithrandir aka Olorin aka Incannus aka Tharkun, The Sil has those people who can be referenced by different names at different times, like Thingol aka Elwe aka Elu (not to be confused with Eru).
It might be worth doing a prep video for reading The Sil that points out the difference in the prose style as well as the tricky characters that pop up repeatedly. Not to mention a quick pronunciation guide since almost NOBODY has a name like "Sam" or "Bilbo" or "Frodo".
Thingol aka Elwe aka Elu? Do you mean Thingol aka Elwe aka Elu aka Greycloak aka Singollo?
@@Keijspermeister No, you must be thinking of ANOTHER Thingol.
I find it very odd that you did not mention The Atlas of Middle Earth. For me it's a must have when you read almost any Tolkien book. I had trouble reading the Silmarillion because I could not locate cities and areas on the map. But they are SO well portrayed in that book. Even the travels of the fellowship are just drawn in lines.
Keep up the good work! Ty for content
Someone suggested I read The History of the Hobbit + by Fonstad’s Atlas of Middle Earth, and I FINALLY was able to make it into the Silmarillion. I’m on chapter 21 now.
I read the lord of the rings first as a teenager and adored it. Hungry for more, I found the hobbit and devoured it in one sitting. Then I picked up the silmarillion and failed. Re-reading the lord of the rings years later I realized it’s due completely to the language. Even the return of the king gets steadily more archaic in its prose and in my first reading I was able to look past that because of the story. Ironically, although many hate the Amazon show, it has piqued my interest again and I think I’ll give the Silmarillion another go. UA-cam channels like this one really help to understand the contexts better and I am grateful for your work on these.
Nice List, Here's mine (which contain new information on Middle Earth, if even just a small amount and were written (primarily) by JRRT, but maybe edited or added to a small bit by CT and other others) (not in any particular reading order):
1.The Hobbit
2. The History of the Hobbit Part 1: Mr. Baggins
3. The History of the Hobbit Part 2: Return to Bag End
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Rings
5. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
6. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
7. Bilbo's Last Song
8. The Road Goes Ever On
9. The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
10. The Silmarillion
11. Unfinished Tales
12. Children of Hurin
13. The Story of Kullervo
14. Beren and Luthien
15. The History of Middle Earth (HOME) Part 1: Book of Lost Tales: Part 1
16. HOME 2: Book of Lost Tales: Part 2
17. HOME 3: Lays of Beleriand
18. HOME 4: The Shaping of Middle-Earth
19. HOME 5: The Lost Road and Other Writings
20. HOME 6: The History of The Lord of the Rings (THoLoTR) : Part 1: Return of The Shadow
21. HOME 7: THoLoTR Part 2: The Treason of Isengard
22. HOME 8: THoLoTR Part 3: The War of the Ring
23. HOME 9: THoLoTR Part 4: Sauron Defeated
24. HOME 10: Morgoth's Ring
25. HOME 11: The War of The Jewels
26. HOME 12: The Peoples of Middle-Earth
27. HOME: Index
28. Pictures by JRRT
29. JRRT: Artist & Illustrator
30. Letters of JRRT
31. The Fall of Gondolin
32. The Nature of Middle-Earth
33. Monsters and The Critics and Other Essays
34. JRRT Biography
35. Roverandom
36. The Fall of Numenor: And Other Tales from The Second Age of Middle-Earth.
Finished reading the Silmarillion for the very first time a few days ago. October last year I read the hobbit and then the Lord of the Rings, also for the first time. Now the silmarillion for me felt like a bible of middle earth. In that it ends with a briefing of the end of the 3rd age. I found it very enjoyable. When I wasn't reading it. I was researching videos from previous chapters and characters. Can't wait to continue reading the rest of Tolkiens books related to Middle Earth. If only I read these when I was a kid.
I would add that a short read that really gives you an insight into Tolkiens philosophy and theology is the essay On Fairie-Stories. Brilliant little piece.
I read The Hobbit again this summer to refresh my memory, and then decided to do a second attempt on LOTR (stopped at page 100 as I felt it was too slow when I was about 15 years old), and ended up considering this the best book I’ve ever read. Just needed patience.
I followed your advice, as I was nervous about The Silmarillion, so I read Children Of Hurin first.
And so happy I did, as I noticed how it sets the foundation for your knowledge of the first age and it’s map and locations, together with all the elf lords and kings in the different realms.
Now I’m half-way through Silmarillion and I have no problems reading it.
Only tough part was keeping track of all the valar and maiar at the start, and then the family-tree of Finwe;Feanor/Fingolfin/Finarfin. Other than that it’s been surprisingly easier than expected mainly through what I learned in Children Of Hurin :)
(Tip for track of Valar, Maia and Finwe’s family tree: sit with your computer/phone close by, and have two tabs open with a picture of the Valar and Maiar names and characteristics, and a picture of Finwe’s children and their children. Helped me alot to keep track while reading without having to disrupt my rhythm)
This video helped alot, thank you so much!
Already bought and waiting to read Unfinished Tales, Beren And Luthien, and The Fall Of Gondolin :)
Funny I started with The Silmarillian. One of my favorites! ❤ Thank you for this. Planning to go back again and read them all.
I knew it was not the recomendation, but I decided to go chronologicaly and loved The Silmarillion to the point I've read it 7-8 times when I was 16-17yo.
Also, Túrin is my favorite character overall, so it really made love the book even more.
Same! Chronological is the way to go.
I remember ordering the Silmarillion in three separate volumes from a Borders back when it was available on audio cassette in the late 90s. Since braille has always been very expensive to produce as well as receive, and those volumes would take up insane amounts of shelf space, audio has always been the way to go for me in terms of owning books. Cool to own these on audible these days. I remember getting the Inglis versions of the LOTR trilogy in this huge three volume boxset as a graduation present, and it nearly dwarfed our coffee table. I love the new Serkis versions too. All the books made me want action figures of the baddies for the sake of tactile representation in ye old pre Peter Jackson film days.
My first exposure to The LOTR universe was acutally the 1983 BBC radio play. My dad had it on cassette and I listened to it a lot when I was a kid. Then I found my grandad had a first edition Silmarillion on the shelf when I was about 9 and I devoured it. I'm not sure how, but it took me two years to finish it. My teachers immediately noticed the change in my vocab as I learnt new words. I remember sitting on my bed with the Silmarillion and a very well thumbed dictionary!
It was 4 years later I read the Hobbit, and finished it in one sitting. My school library actually had really decent copies of the LOTR trilogy, and I used to pour over the maps in the back of them.
Not an ad in any way, but I am listening to Silmarillion read by Andy Serkis on audible. It is amazing!
I would recommend taking your time with the Silmarillion. An audio book could help with pronunciation, but I would have been lost without referring to the appendix every page or 2. You read it bit come across a new term, you do not understand then look through the index. Also look for maps online. I have 2 maps of middle earth, one with more human names and one more elvish, a map of Beleriand, and one of the Undying Lands, Numenor and Middle Earth, on my computer ready to reference as I read. I also referenced a couple middle earth wiki's as well to help sort out what I read.
I think your reading order was good, I usually would advise Hobbit, LotR, then Silmarillion, and then from there you are probably deep enough to pick and chose as you see fit. But Children of Hurin might actually be a better way to ease people into the Silmarillion.
Whenever someone talks about Tolkien, the books, the movies - I’m stuck with this permanent goofy smile on my face.
This was fabulous! Don't yet have Carl's book and had not heard of John's. Thanks!!!
Diving into the Silmarillion and man the Audio book does help with understanding the names. I’m ready.
It would be great to have a video analyzing the narrative differences between The Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion. I think most people are introduced to Tolkien's world by reading LOTR, or maybe the Hobbit. These books read like a present day novel, with a clear daily narrative and precise definition of place and tense. When they get to the Silmarillion, it has an entirely different structure. It's more akin to the works of Homer. Some chapters, such as the chapter "Of Turin Turambar" are very a very detailed narrative. While the chapter on the Great Battle and the Fall of Morgoth seem high and remote.
Talk about perfect timing for a video! Excited to dive into the books and watching more vids as I hit the stories
The Hobbit and LotR being read to me are some of my earliest memories. The Silmarillion is much, *much* easier if you skip past the first couple of parts. Once you're past the part where he names all of the divinities and what they do and get to the part where they come down to Middle Earth and start doing stuff it's much easier to follow. Also, just let all the names wash over you, if they're important you'll hear about them again when they're relevant.
Edit: Just to throw it out there the Andy Serkis versions of the audiobooks are fan-freakin-tastic
I have to disagree. Lord of the Rings is far more interesting when one is aware of the way Middle Earth came into being and who has the biggest stakes in the game
@@maxmercer1931 I'm not saying never read those parts, but that's the place where people seem to get stuck when they try that book
Daem I love your videos Mr Nerd. You are basically a historian for the virtaul reality of Mr Tolkien. It is inspiring to see that someone could create a world of pure imagination inspiring enough to have you, and many others, though unfortunately few as adept at making videos, to put in the reseach to make content like this.
I am coming at this as someone who's only seen the movies, and read none of the books, and I feel like I have all of my questions are answered by now, but considering I had never heard of Morgoth, and had no idea that Gandalf, Sauron and the balrog were all the same "species" before coming to this channel, I am sure there is more to learn about this wonderful world of imagination Tolkien created.
Wow... I really had no idea there were so many books! I knew about the Hobbit and the Trilogy only. Thank you for this video! I’m reading through the early American historical fiction Leather Stockings series, but want to take a break. SomI thought I’d delve into Tolkien. Thank you!
I just listened to the children of Hurin audiobook, and it was amazing! :D
Thanks for making this channel, man! It truly feels like a love letter to Tolkien ❤
Silmarillion is so good. It's so epic. I'm halfway through my second re-read. I'll do Children of Hurin next ! Thanks for all the goodies man
The Best Video to end this Year. Happy New Year to Everyone in Middle-Earth.
I first read the Silmarillion at age 11, and while I missed some of the themes I loved the book. By then I had alread read or listened to the Hobbit 3 times and LOTR twice, and I wanted more, so I slogged through the first chapters, then was just enthralled by the rest. That said it is a bit dense and I understand why a lot of people don't care for it. I wish Christopher had taken a couple years longer to finish it, it's a shame he was rushed by the publisher.
I started reading Tolkien with the silmarillion a few months ago, and i’m proud to say that, after several tries (i restarted again twice because i understood nothing of what was happening) i finished it yesterday
Same! Chronological is the way to go.
I read them mostly in chronological order. It was difficult starting with Silmarillion but seeing the movies first had helped. I just saw the silmarillion sitting on our bookshelf and now recently picked up reading as a hobby because of it
JRR Tolkien's works are quite amazing. When I was in 10th grade (1968), my English class was required to read The Hobbit. I was not happy as fantasy stuff was not my favorite at all. By the time I read three chapters I was hooked. I've since read all of the books mentioned in this video except I took The Silmarillion plunge some years after reading The Lords of the Rings. I read the remaining books over the following years. The Silmarillion can be a tough read, no question, but worth the effort.
I’ve always wondered this but google never gives a concise answer. Thank you!!
I would love to buy the first 4 narratives books with you as narrators, I can listen to your videos for hours. Awesome content!
The first time I've put my hands on the Silmarillion I've read it all in 2 days. No, I've devoured it!
Since then, I've been re-reading it at least once every year...
Thanks for the video. I've been a long-time fan of The Hobbit and LotR (since the late 80's), but had never read the other material. One of my friends is a history professor that streams world history on Twitch and, as bonus subscriber goal streams, has been doing The History of Middle Earth. This has gotten me excited to read all the other material and I've picked up almost all the other books you've highlighted, with 2022 being the year I'm doing the great Tolkien read-a-thon (so I start tomorrow). I wasn't sure what order I'd tackle the books, but this video seems like a great guide and the order I'll likely follow. I can't wait to take this deeper dive into Middle Earth!
I also really love the Arda atlas that I have at home. Super helpful when you read any of Tolkiens works.
I feel like I’m the only one who started with the silmarillion. I always loved the movies as a kid and wanted more lore on the creation and history of middle-earth and that’s exactly what I got.
i started on silmarillion... 15 years ago. Ty for nostalgia brother.
"The big one. The crusher of dreams." I giggled. But yeah, I have a friend who, at the age of 67, is finally interested in taking the dive. I've gifted her the essentials - Silmarillion, Hobbit, & LotR. The reading order I've recommended to her matches yours, for pretty much the same reasons. Also, except for the last one, I have all of the books you've listed. Now I have another to hunt down.
The moment I retire i shall devote all my resources to help building Tolkien's Mordor. Your channel rocks! Thank you and Happy New Year.
I read the fall of Nunenor recently. Be good to add it as an addendum to the list.
thanks for the reading list! I'm starting with Silmarillion and I'm pretty sure I'll have to read it again soon
Read all of them. Loved them. Must read again.
Thanks a lot, ready the hobbit and lord of the rings divided I loved the world and now I’m half way through the simirilion