Xbox is a Disaster

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  • Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
  • Xbox. Every time we think they have turned a corner and are ready to fight their way back to greatness they remind us that they will find new and exciting ways to disappoint us with poor choices that lead to failure. Studio closures are their latest move. Let's talk about why this came to be...
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  • @ReforgeGaming
    @ReforgeGaming  25 днів тому +3

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  • @user-re1ch2yu4r
    @user-re1ch2yu4r 25 днів тому +8

    Many ppl saw this coming but we quickly shut by those who wanted those acquisitions, xbox never tried to grow their studios organically by supporting them, they just bought a bunch of studios because the only thing they know what to do do is spending money and hope to solve everything with it, well these are the consequences.

  • @VampireNoblesse
    @VampireNoblesse 25 днів тому +13

    how can Phil still be standing after this debacle?? ... he should have been the 1st to go!

    • @korkuc26
      @korkuc26 18 днів тому

      Because it's no longer him making decisions. It's microsofts shareholders 😊

  • @joshtodd8726
    @joshtodd8726 25 днів тому +37

    If you can’t beat them, buy them…..

    • @ReforgeGaming
      @ReforgeGaming  25 днів тому +23

      and then shut them down apparently

    • @DeuceGod
      @DeuceGod 25 днів тому +9

      And then still not be beating them (pause)

  • @SeifSoudani
    @SeifSoudani 25 днів тому +8

    This is honestly hands down the best coverage on the matter, straight to the point, well sourced, and not afraid to have a well informed opinion. So underrated with regards to the number of followers this channel has so far.

  • @frankkent5567
    @frankkent5567 24 дні тому +3

    “Disaster” Is an understatement. It was a disaster five years ago. It’s since swelled to cataclysm levels.

  • @jameswulfgang154
    @jameswulfgang154 25 днів тому +5

    Hearing that they want to prioritize "block buster games" sounds to me like if your game is making CoD $$$ your time is limited.
    If Hi-Fi wasnt enough to save Tango, My prayers go to Ninja Theory...

    • @econoinner_force954
      @econoinner_force954 25 днів тому +1

      Microtransactions games... See all the Unfinished games from Xbox on Gamepass, it goes with this shema... Sea of thieves ended up having content after 3 years on GP, same principe for Grounded... and so they lied on trailers and killed Halo Infinite and Forza Motorsport, Redfall... Starfield ! But now they will only care about the franchises already secured : Minecraft, Roblox, COD...

  • @CV-lm7pv
    @CV-lm7pv 25 днів тому +14

    Microsoft didn't purchase other publishers to compete with Playstation
    They wanted to eliminate the competition. Being the biggest publisher is now their main goal

    • @bellissimo4520
      @bellissimo4520 25 днів тому +7

      Fortunately for their competition, they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 25 днів тому +5

      This is exactly what I was saying during the acquisition. They didn't just buy out a bunch of game developers. They purchased and removed two competing publishers from the industry.

  • @rays5401
    @rays5401 25 днів тому +17

    Phil, Sarah, and Matt and any xbox games leadership needs to go, I'm tired of the lies and just bad decision after bad decision, poor communication with the consumer base, I'm tired of phil and company slowly destroying xbox

    • @mgpdevil
      @mgpdevil 25 днів тому +2

      Unfortunately I think the real pressure comes above them. Nadella opening the MS wallet had it's price. He regretted killing the Windows Phone but I'm afraid the dood never learn.

  • @PervySage723
    @PervySage723 25 днів тому +3

    All they had to do was focus on games. Instead its strategy after strategy that doesnt pan out

  • @midengineZ06
    @midengineZ06 25 днів тому +6

    When will XBOX Leadership Take Accountability For Their Mistake If EVER?????
    They Are In This Mess Because Of Them
    In any other Company That is what happens when the Leadership is there that long. They get shipped OUT.
    Quit Pretending That They are your Friends People
    Phil HAS gone on a APOLOGY TOUR EVERY YEAR of his tenure

  • @TakeshiInazuma
    @TakeshiInazuma 25 днів тому +16

    YUP. Xbox seems to always get in their own way. I really hope they come with another Ghostwire Tokyo sequel, but I feel it would be shelved forever. Just like Banjo Kazooie...
    Hell, I think Crash and Spyro are getting shelved, too.

    • @battushi3
      @battushi3 25 днів тому +3

      What I'm afraid is the next ones will be ninja theory, compulsion, undead labs and The initiative (a.k.a. the fugitive)

    • @ivaniniguez2553
      @ivaniniguez2553 25 днів тому +3

      Shoot I think the xbox itself is been shelved by thousands of people

    • @jankmedia1985
      @jankmedia1985 25 днів тому +2

      I'm so glad that Ghostwire doesn't have a cliff hanger ending. Those leaked court docs showed a sequel for Ghostwire and I was definitely interested but thank God that the story is all tied up already. Such a good game, got the platinum at launch and started a new save last night, still just as fun. 10/10 for me.

    • @nicekix3038
      @nicekix3038 25 днів тому +1

      Sony should’ve bought the rights for Crash, and Spyro smh

  • @bored_editor
    @bored_editor 25 днів тому +4

    i cant believe that hifi rush was johanas dream game, only to be stolen from him and the people that worked on it, along with all of the amazing titles from the other studios as well
    Because ms took the ip for the sake of having them

  • @ItsJustHenriHeck
    @ItsJustHenriHeck 25 днів тому +2

    The question is would these studios have closed IF Microsoft hadn't bought them? I think we all know the answer to that.

  • @thepews1511
    @thepews1511 25 днів тому +2

    The same people who cheer on these acquisitions are the same people who down talk third party exclusives.
    Much better to just buy them out and bring them dry then support them through one or two games I guess lol.

  • @sleepyash744
    @sleepyash744 25 днів тому +3

    Im just waiting for the day Lono went on a mental breakdown if Ninja Theory get shutdown if a studio like Tango did
    Nice vid btw

  • @thmspayne
    @thmspayne 23 дні тому

    I feel like this begs the question of what if this is just good management? During covid many studios expanded and pushed for big triple A games with budgets exceeding movies. So with this being acknowledged, isn’t the issue Bethesda over hiring versus Microsoft being weird? The industry as a whole tried to jump on the wave of new players during lockdowns and many failed and have downsized. It’s correcting for overcompensating. So with these points, I also want to argue that no studio needs more than 50-100 employees. Most of the best games were made with smaller teams. I would also say that it’s so easy to fall into certain narratives, maybe we should evaluate what makes good games and makes common sense? Wasn’t games better before with smaller teams.

  • @khalidamajoud4114
    @khalidamajoud4114 25 днів тому +1

    I am expecting more "less performing" developers to be shut down, now that MS has hoarded the IPs and started asking Xbox to show results for the gargantuan investments made the last 5 or 6 years...

  • @DevenCanFly
    @DevenCanFly 25 днів тому +7

    Xbox couldn’t manage their own studios before all the acquisitions, whoever thought they could manage 3x as many studios was absolutely delusional. The only question is, who’s next?

    • @divisive_gaming4488
      @divisive_gaming4488 25 днів тому

      This right here!!!
      This guy gets it! Xbox thought that by buying publishers, they could just be hands off. Well they clearly didn't take into account all the new mouths to feed!
      They literally bought Zenimax cause of a timed exclusive deal... Just let that sit in before you defend them. They are such cowards, That just happen to have a huge piggy bank.

  • @adayexpired6370
    @adayexpired6370 25 днів тому +2

    Hurray for Phil, lord and savior of Xbox!!! That dirty 30fps Ninja Theory next, pretty please Papa Phil! Take all them fired employee salaries and just shove em in your golden parachute!!! K?? Three cheers Daddy Phil!

  • @JarrodLamp
    @JarrodLamp 25 днів тому +2

    At the end of the day it"s all about money.

  • @sebastianguerrero6617
    @sebastianguerrero6617 25 днів тому +1

    It sucks because there are examples of another company buying another and it's going well and becoming very good for both companies involved
    Look at Nintendo for example they bought monoliths soft in 2007, Back then a lot people said it was a mistake and Nintendo was wasting money. Fast forward to the day and it's a completely different story now. You have monolith soft helping make games like the legend of Zelda, animal crossing, and splatoon, All of which have sold so many units and has made a lot of money for Nintendo. Plus they're making their own games with the xenoblade franchise which's not as big as the titles mentioned before are still highly regarded, beloved by fans, and are very impressive for the switch and are use as showcases for what their current system is capable of. And now you hear Rumors of them having a brand new IP that is supposedly going to be part of the Lanch year line up for the next Nintendo console
    If Microsoft and xbox handled the studios they've gotten in their recent buy outs then they probably could have had something similar to what nintendo has with monolith but they don't seem to know what to do or aren't interested in pursuing that, Which is just a waste of talent money and effort in my view

  • @kotztotz3530
    @kotztotz3530 24 дні тому

    I really hope some great smaller studios can come out of the ashes of these shutdowns.

  • @marcov4190
    @marcov4190 25 днів тому +8

    Why did Microsoft bought the studios???

    • @NBGTFO
      @NBGTFO 25 днів тому +1

      Because they have stupid people running the company. It's not that hard to figure out.

    • @jyhcheantang4249
      @jyhcheantang4249 25 днів тому +3

      Buy and shut them down 🫢

  • @jconklin789
    @jconklin789 25 днів тому +1

    So they've been buying individual games, putting 1st party, and buying up whole publishers to put into gamepass for what 7 years now? And they still don't know how to measure the value of the games? No wonder things are the way they are.

  • @toastyburger
    @toastyburger 25 днів тому +1

    This sure looks like a pivot away from Game Pass. Hi-Fi Rush was perfect Game Pass fodder, and Redfall expected to be on Game Pass for the next decade. All those smaller studios aren't needed if the focus is shifting to AAA titles.

  • @adrianjimenez409
    @adrianjimenez409 25 днів тому +2

    #firephilspencer

  • @ChesterMan-qd3xj
    @ChesterMan-qd3xj 25 днів тому +12

    Microsoft just has too much money to be irresponsible with. It appears they just wanted these developer’s IPs to throw in Game Pass, and didn’t care about the talent.

  • @The_Claymores
    @The_Claymores 25 днів тому +1

    but that new controller design is so hot though! Surely that makes up for this

  • @jasonf7983
    @jasonf7983 25 днів тому +1

  • @marvindempsey2001
    @marvindempsey2001 25 днів тому +1

    Xbox needs to put at least one good game out

  • @RowKing2323
    @RowKing2323 25 днів тому +2

    Truly disappointed in Microsoft for the closures of Tango Gameworks. Finally a studio that they have that gave them a ton of great reviews and awards last year from both the media and gamer audience for which they haven't gotten for such a long time and they dicided to close that studio down. It's like committing business suicide over greedy. Hifi Rush got better reviews scores and won more awards than their competitor Sony Playstation biggest exclusive game for last year which is Marvel Spiderman 2. Also Hifi Rush also beat their own Xbox biggest exclusive for last year which is Starfield in both review scores and awards. How can they close that type of game studio, how is it even possible for Tango Gameworks to even get cut after receiving so much praise. Finally a Xbox owned Japanese studio with quality and they close it down, what Microsoft even thinking. Over 400 or more video games released last year and Hifi Rush was in the top five or ten of must play for 2023 and they closed that game studio are you kiddy me. As an strictly only Xbox gamer words can't describe how disappointed I am.

  • @derhessenhaider9041
    @derhessenhaider9041 24 дні тому +2

    Time to sell my Xbox and get me an PS5.😅

  • @drexq_477
    @drexq_477 19 днів тому

    It is unfortunate that the ongoing situation has resulted in a lack of progress and unfulfilled commitments. This has had a negative impact on individuals who are enthusiasts of the Xbox platform. Personally, I share the sentiment of disappointment regarding the acquisition of studios without any substantial outcomes. The absence of future game releases and a clear roadmap for the platform raises concerns about its long-term viability. It is regrettable that Bethesda, a respected game developer, has been affected by this situation.

  • @2killzore
    @2killzore 25 днів тому +1

    I recommend prey moon crash for most of you that are upset....its one of the best rouge like experiences ever made.
    But the studio is gone because it was slept on amongst other things.
    End of story really, the sales prove the fake outrage.

  • @forhyrule8428
    @forhyrule8428 25 днів тому +5

    Xbox is just allergic to collecting W´s

  • @jenniferneaves3892
    @jenniferneaves3892 23 дні тому

    Why they would make arkane make a game they dont want to make like redfall instead of making a new dishonored or something is crazy to me

  • @Yukooo108
    @Yukooo108 24 дні тому

    Xbots need to apologize to Lina Khan.

  • @Sportsfan255
    @Sportsfan255 24 дні тому

    They'll make a comeback when they figure out why Stellar Blade is going to outsell Hellblade 2.

  • @AlwaysVotingMAGA
    @AlwaysVotingMAGA 24 дні тому +1

    "We're sorry for disappointing you & ruining Gaming. But next year will surely be our year, don't worry!"
    -Xbox liars since 2011🤡🌎

  • @stewarde17
    @stewarde17 25 днів тому +4

    So much for that foothold into the Japanese market

  • @AlwaysVotingMAGA
    @AlwaysVotingMAGA 24 дні тому +1

    How can Phil Spencer still have a job when he has brought Xbox from last place to a much worse last place?!🤡🌎

  • @60weHoodsta
    @60weHoodsta 25 днів тому +1

    You know. I noticed Hellblade2 is days away and not one piece of marketing🤔🫤

  • @hellfiresass
    @hellfiresass 25 днів тому +8

    Why does no one own an Xbox in Pennsylvania?
    Because it's always Sony in Philadelphia!

    • @JarrodLamp
      @JarrodLamp 25 днів тому

      I live in Pa. I own XSX me sad

  • @EliteBlackSash
    @EliteBlackSash 24 дні тому +1

    Microsoft the IP graveyard

  • @PeterZeeke
    @PeterZeeke 25 днів тому

    But you're not supposed to ask "why do people like X" you're supposed to ask, what do we like? what is X to us?

  • @leomeraEU
    @leomeraEU 25 днів тому +5

    Xbox desperately needs to stop talking. My gosh the volume of articles and tweets that are now burning them, lol. If they shred Fable, I'll be really P.O.

    • @ReforgeGaming
      @ReforgeGaming  25 днів тому +4

      im not confident in anything coming down the road from them

    • @shecklesmack9563
      @shecklesmack9563 25 днів тому +2

      Not a single soul involved in making the originals good has anything to do with the new “Fable” game. It’s some random game wearing a skin suit of a dead IP whose developer no longer exists… there’s no reason to have any hype for it until reviews come out or it releases. Increasingly, Microsoft is just buying the names of good franchises and hiring random developers to make them. I can’t wait for Hi-Fi Rush 2 made by The Initiative or the Shadow Collective or whoever the hell!

  • @vipset87
    @vipset87 20 днів тому +1

    Lol lono you gonna make some enemies with this one 😂 It shouldn't but we all know the type who take their stance in console wars seriously

    • @ReforgeGaming
      @ReforgeGaming  19 днів тому

      I'm making friends - I'm telling them how it is instead of lying to them

  • @AlwaysVotingMAGA
    @AlwaysVotingMAGA 24 дні тому +1

    How will the regulators allow yet another stupid acquisition to pass?
    Activision needs to be the last one. That should never have even passed.
    Xbox is destroying Gaming!🤬

  • @Afroman792
    @Afroman792 25 днів тому +5

    So zenimax mandated arkane austin make redfall, a live service game which is not in what they do.... it predictably failed and now they close the studio. They made one of my favorite games of all time in dishonored... so sick of microsofts crap probably gonna sell my series x to game stop and load up on steam cards. Bought a pc last year, a steam deck last month. I dont need this crap box.

    • @ivaniniguez2553
      @ivaniniguez2553 25 днів тому +1

      Excuses, lol. Sony has many studios without experience on different fields and still bring out hits after hits

    • @Afroman792
      @Afroman792 25 днів тому +2

      @@ivaniniguez2553 they didnt want to make the game. You must be unfamiliar with creatives, if you dont have passion for what your creating the product will show it. Redfall showed it.

    • @ivaniniguez2553
      @ivaniniguez2553 25 днів тому +1

      @@Afroman792 well that’s Xbox to you lol once again Xbox sucks

    • @Afroman792
      @Afroman792 25 днів тому +1

      @@ivaniniguez2553 i am not a console warrior... i own a ps5 and switch as well. I see no reason to own an xbox. I only bought it as a bethesda box

  • @RegudousGaming
    @RegudousGaming 24 дні тому

    If xbox switches to pc

  • @rijusnar1994
    @rijusnar1994 24 дні тому

    Evil within 3 🥲

  • @milehigh9938
    @milehigh9938 25 днів тому

    Lonstradamus

  • @ROADKIL80
    @ROADKIL80 25 днів тому +3

    I don't have any doubt that all Xbox games are coming to Playstation

  • @bellissimo4520
    @bellissimo4520 25 днів тому

    Ladies and Gents, shall we take bets on how long it will be until Microsoft shuts down Bethesda?
    Which, in my books, would be absolutely justified at this point.

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 25 днів тому

      What hacks me off is they'd do something like that but retain the I.Ps.

    • @bellissimo4520
      @bellissimo4520 24 дні тому

      @@pixeljauntvr7774 Yeah... MS keeping the Elder Scrolls IP (and then probably never doing anything with it) - that would hurt.

  • @lordhorg999
    @lordhorg999 25 днів тому +3

    Segaaaaaaaa!!!!!

  • @robertdowney85
    @robertdowney85 25 днів тому

    It's time for Phil to retire.

    • @ivaniniguez2553
      @ivaniniguez2553 25 днів тому +2

      Phil and xbox lol

    • @mgpdevil
      @mgpdevil 25 днів тому +2

      @@ivaniniguez2553 Why you want xbox to retire? So Sony can screw you over even more?

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 25 днів тому +1

      ​@@mgpdevilWould like Xbox to retire because they are corrosive to the games industry. Honestly I think Sony in a position of Monopoly would be significantly less evil than these loathsome as**oles.

    • @genjiharvester1876
      @genjiharvester1876 25 днів тому

      @@mgpdevil So that maybe, with the space left in the marketplace, another company can get in the ring--a company that will contribute positively (on net) to the industry, instead of raping it.

    • @mgpdevil
      @mgpdevil 25 днів тому

      @@genjiharvester1876 Any company can still do that as we speak. You think it has a bigger chance against Sony without Microsoft?? Google failed. Can't see Amazon or Facebook bring real competition to Sony. Then there is Apple but they aren't know to drive pricing down. Just look at iPhone and Samsung prices.

  • @Roberto_Marx
    @Roberto_Marx 24 дні тому +1

    I don’t blame Phil. Phil is the best thing that happened to gaming. He gave us all free games on gamepass and the cloud power.

  • @victory7763
    @victory7763 25 днів тому +1

    Its dark times now, but we see the seeds of a very bright future

    • @JunlugoPR
      @JunlugoPR 25 днів тому +5

      What? Lmao 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @musicman6773
    @musicman6773 24 дні тому

    How can xbox survive when it has bad management, has obsolete joypad , NO VR gaming , no exclusives /everything is on pc and soon on ps5/ :) Playstation wins as always.

  • @ROADKIL80
    @ROADKIL80 25 днів тому

    Hit the like button 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @shineyredflag
    @shineyredflag 25 днів тому

    Microsoft seem like big bullies.It's sad watching all this play out & I'm gutted for all the hard working people in the game industry who've been cast aside.Good luck to all those looking for jobs.

  • @RegudousGaming
    @RegudousGaming 24 дні тому

    Im not sure how much longer until sony goes to pc with all this being said and sony not having any competition of consoles

  • @vanceg4901
    @vanceg4901 25 днів тому +2

    Xbox fan but I mostly play on PC recently. Not interested in Gamepass and haven't bought a Xbox Series because I'm just not convinced.

  • @mgpdevil
    @mgpdevil 25 днів тому +3

    All the fake tears from Sony fanboys who daily celebrate declining xbox sales and would be dancing in the streets if Xbox closed down tomorrow. Honestly don't give 2c about your 'sad' state over Xbox studios closing and devs losing jobs.

    • @ReforgeGaming
      @ReforgeGaming  25 днів тому +6

      i said all last year i wanted xbox to change course, and make my series x better, u dont know me or what i think

    • @mgpdevil
      @mgpdevil 25 днів тому +3

      @@ReforgeGaming I'm not necessarily talking about you. But the comments I see everyday in chats and comments sections on this and many other channels. People who aren't the slightest interested in Xbox success or well being.

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 25 днів тому +5

      ​@@mgpdevil The tears aren't for Xbox. MS can crash and burn for all care. It'd just be nice if they didn't sink half the western games industry and beloved IPs with them.

    • @mgpdevil
      @mgpdevil 25 днів тому

      @@pixeljauntvr7774 I know the tears aren't for Xbox. Fake tears for the closing studios.

    • @genjiharvester1876
      @genjiharvester1876 25 днів тому +2

      @@mgpdevil Competition is good. But if this is how it's gonna be, then the juice ain't worth the squeeze. What's happening with MS isn't good for anyone. I'm sure you can point me to a forum or comments section where some people are speaking in bad faith and being immature about all this -- but if you're letting those people set the frame for your own sense of things, then you're not any better, really.

  • @bonginkosimotloung4440
    @bonginkosimotloung4440 25 днів тому +2

    Remember PlayStation closed 4 studios

    • @cheeks3211
      @cheeks3211 25 днів тому +8

      Over the course of many years. And they let them bring their games to market, over multiple projects. Literally MS bought more teams in 4 years than almost all large publishers combined. Sony's closure of studios is not the same Scenario. Most of their studios they close they had for a long time, and made multiple titles under them that didn't perform. Microsoft literally bought bethesda, and got 1 new game from each studio, and closed 4 of these studios.
      They also layed off over 1900 people, and closed toys 4 bob who was given an option to be spun off. But their physical studio is gone. Sony's layoff's are from studios not being able to recoup costs over multiple games over long periods of time. We are talking multiple gen.
      I will say the recent layoffs are accelerated by Sony pushing too many GAAS titles, and trying to also have VR titles being made. It sucks. But so far they have not laid off any legacy studios. They closed Japan studio which to me was a mistake. But a lot of talent moved around to xdev, Atstro bot dev.

    • @TreyIM22
      @TreyIM22 25 днів тому +1

      False equivalency. Gotta love blind, ignorant "whataboutisms."

    • @TreyIM22
      @TreyIM22 25 днів тому +3

      ​@@cheeks3211 Indeed.

    • @ivaniniguez2553
      @ivaniniguez2553 25 днів тому +3

      The thing is sony produces games and Microsoft not lol

    • @toastyburger
      @toastyburger 25 днів тому +1

      Sony closed the beloved Japan Studio, a couple of VR devs, and a small studio that made two games in 10 years. The closures were mourned and protested. The Xbox closures are higher profile and include two studios with recent releases. If anything, remembering the Sony closures makes the Xbox action look even worse.

  • @VampireNoblesse
    @VampireNoblesse 25 днів тому

    if Phil doesn't see monetization potential from a franchise / studio, it gets axed?? (or if it's no woke enough??), .. otherwise hard to explain this madness..

    • @ReforgeGaming
      @ReforgeGaming  25 днів тому +5

      woke isnt playing role here, profit is the only thing that matters to microsoft

    • @VampireNoblesse
      @VampireNoblesse 25 днів тому

      @ReforgeGaming
      hope it's not cause of anti-wokeness (but that's something we wouldn't be able to judge yet, it would come out later, if the case at all)
      ... but it could have been a factor (they are more difficult to work with, if not on the same page... and Japanese & European studios are likely less woke)
      ...
      ... that said, were employees already leaving those studios (jumping ship), so they ended up just closing them entirely?

  • @alanazargushasb8557
    @alanazargushasb8557 25 днів тому

    Meh
    These two stufios made meh games
    I could have played either of them and did I ? Nope
    Xbox will be fine

  • @milehigh9938
    @milehigh9938 25 днів тому

    Lonstradamus