In fact, Boeing's interference made things much worse! With Airbus' sales and support network, there will be even more CSeries/A220s sold than if Boeing didn't butt in and Bombardier went at it alone.
It wasn't Boeing, it was the buddy pal relationship with Donald Dump and Boeing. Only the government can set tariffs on imported goods. Donald never realized that his stupid plan to hurt Bombardier went off in their ugly faces. By disrupting free trade only hurt the American economy because most of the aircraft parts came from US Aerospace companies. The slowdown hurt America more while Airbus and Bombardier found viable markets for this aircraft and continued to sell this revolutionary jet. Delta and Jet Blue have seen the value this aircraft brings to the industry and are buying lots of them.
Absolutely. I feel like Airbus really lucked out with the deal to buy this amazing Canadian plane. It's too bad Bombardier had to sell it off due to debt though :(
I’m not Canadian, but I wish Airbus changed the A220’s house livery a little to reflect its Canadian origins. Maybe a red colour scheme instead? Like the black they used for the A350?
Full story is Delta wanna smaller plane because pilot's unions have some limits, Boeing offer 737maxes but Delta wanna smaller (Union limits) they choose new airframes from Bombardier, Boeing told this plane was sold under cost of production, go to administration, and administration imposed tariffs on "imported" planes. Airbus buy a 50.1 of program and offer investment in reconfigure Mobile Alabama plant to bulid in US. Rest of world gets a A220 from Canada Mirabelle ex-bombardier plant. Bombardier leave program completely.
I like that plane very much, I am frequent traveler of AirBaltic, and can say, that A220 is very comfortable and silent plane. Usually my flights was with turboprops Q400, and then from time to time those flights was operated with A220, for example from Riga to Helsinki. Diference is to cmpare day and night. Q400 is good, but it is still aging turboprop. Now, when AirBaltic is all A220 airline, I will not need to guess, which plane I will have for the flight.
@@todortodorov940 agree, personally I think it is one of the best airlines in the world. Before pandemic, I was flying 40+ flights a year, and most with them. I don’t have single bad experience.
I'm also in Canada and feel the same way about the A220. Despite the turbulence experienced while in development, the aircraft has turned into a great success story for the Canadian Aerospace industry. Boeing's loss has become Airbus' gain.
It's a shame that difficult circumstances forced them to sell the program to airbus. I'm not Canadian but it feels good to know that Airbus and Boeing's duopoly can be challenged.
@@markiangooley I believe that they are....except for the ones that have been ordered for the US market. Those are built at the Airbus facility on Mobile, Alabama
With this collaboration, I’m excited to see what will go with the Canadian aviation industry when they’ll gain an even bigger market. And Bombardier is a great company ngl
Recently flown on the Swiss Air A220. I have to say I liked it a lot. Quiet, spacious, comfortable seats, big overhead bins. Would fly again, can recommend
When I still frequently traveled to Switzerland for work pre Covid I always hoped the Swiss flight would be a C-Series (A220). I simply love flying that plane. Big windows make for great views and lots of light in the cabin, the Recaro seats are very comfortable and it's one of the quitest planes I've been in.
A220 range of 3400nm is excellent for a small aircraft. If airbus can make a A220XLR with 3700-4000nm, then it would be another game changer like the A321XLR. There are a lot of skinny long routes. Boeing needs to come out with a 757 size with range of 6000-7000+ nm. They would be able to sell a lot of that!
Airbus has brought the A220-300 range to a full 3550 nm this week! The range change applies to existing and future aircraft, and with no physical modifications needed. And yes, airlines want even more range out of the A220-300, possibly using auxiliary tanks from the ACJ, and possibly up to 4000 nm.
I almost exclusively flew (can't wait until I am doing so again) on Lufthansa Group Aircraft. Because of my departure and destination, it meant changing at a hub. Depending on the day/time, one of the legs was regularly on a 'Regional' type of theirs or one of their 'partners' i.e. Helvetic. From experience of numerous different aircraft, only the A220 and the (now retired) Fokker 100 felt anything like full sized aircraft made just a little smaller. All the others felt like small aircraft made a little bigger. Consequently, if an A220 was scheduled, I felt as if I was getting full value from my ticket.
I've always thought that if I ever had to start a new airline, a new all-A220 fleet that would serve underserved markets all across Europe would be where I'd go :)
'Since its launch, the Airbus A220 has been incredibly popular'. Well, let's not forget the bumpy start it had before joining the Airbus family involuntarily. It faced fierce competition and ruthless boycotting from Boeing. At one point we were lamenting that this marvelous little Canadian-built plane would go nowhere, because it was a Bombardier. But luckily, provided with Airbus's resources, this little plane is now doing extremely well. The former design team at Bombardier deserves some huge respect for creating this machine.
yes, boeing's actions backfired. Boeing should've bought the a220 program rather than attempt to block bombardier, which was already struggling. then the a220 fell into Airbus hands for so little money. if Boeing decides to develop a rival to the a220, Boeing would have to spend billions, not the $1 that Airbus spent. Boeing could try to buy the inferior e2 from Embraer, but not sure of Embraer liked Boeing right now
@@BlackKnight344 If I remember Boeing and Embraer walked away from the deal and were both very pissed. I don't know what they Expected, but unless some external factors push/force both companies to try to renegotiate the deal - it is off.
@@tomAkelife-ff9tf Embraer also doesn’t have the same marketing power which is very important to win customers. The E2 was made to be a natural successor to the E1 which had higher than expected maintenance costs hence similar capacity
Love the story. Wonderful Canadian aircraft that got into difficulties, made worse by US tariffs then rescued by Airbus who had manufacturing facilities in US. I'm flying from LA to San Diego in a few months time. I hope Delta operate the A220 on that route.
Great aircraft. There are still incrimental improvements to be made to wring out more mpg. In fact, I just heard today, Airbus squeezed another 200 nm out of it. Cheers.
Airlines are still demanding more. The A220-300 now lifts the same payload (almost 20 tonnes) as the A320neo, but 200 nm is still not enough and they are rooting for a full-blown long-haul A220-300.
The technology for more miles is there. Take a look at the new ACJ twotwenty. Long range tanks have been added to the A220-100. It is a matter of time before a customer asks for them on the A220-300. Cheers.
„Dispute overt tariffs“ seems a bit too kind for what happened. It was the US government attempt to finish the Boeing 737 competitor before it started. It was just another US protectionist move.
The Canadian Bombardier C series is a true engineering marvel. Airbus will take the A 220 to the next level I strongly believe it will be game changer. More efficient, pilots and passengers just Love it. It has the latest technology something the Boeing Max 737 can never match. Stay Corvid Free.
I don't think that Southwest will add the A220 to its fleet. Boeing will bend over backwards to keep Southwest an all-Boeing fleet. It would look pretty bad if Southwest opted for anything other than the 737 MAX.
Agree. But this will give them the leverage to twist Boeings arm and purchase MAX'es for breadcrumbs. After all, the MAX has lost some popularity since two airplanes were introduced to the effects of gravity and the hardness of Earth. Boeing will be more than welcome to sell MAX to anybody and also to keep Southwest in their grip at any cost. They may even give them an offer: Buy 1 and get 3 for free.
@@misterff1629 I hope they did, because they'll be prisoners of Boeing. Let's hope a third one doesn't ground the fleet again... Short term vision is good, in the short term.
Southwest keeps dodging disaster by having such a large, all B737 fleet. Imagine the 737MAX grounding for 2-years without a pandemic while their competitors were free to dig into market share, etc. And they're doing it again by not making any hedge, trusting Boeing and the 737MAX program to fly them into the wild, blue yonder. But for how long? They'll be making a change at some point and kicking that can down the road seems to be their affirmative choice.
The A220 is just an all-round winner. Size, range, efficiency...straight 10s. It is also very aesthetically pleasing. It's a toss-up for me between the A220 and 737 in terms of design (737 probably still edges it out for me though XD). Boeing is definitely going to target this market with their clean-sheet 737 replacement.
@Boeing 737 MAX 8 i mean there are so many regional routes in india which doesn't require planes as big as a321neo or even a320 or 737-800, they're operated by either Dash-8/ATR(full capacity) or a320/737(with empty seats). A220 will be perfect for such routes. Lets see, but i see future of this aircraft in india for sure.
It's the ideal plane for the modern world of thin and long routes. This is a jet that can take off from London City and fly transatlantic without stopping for a re-fuel which even British Airways A318's couldn't... Now if only Toronto City had allowed the 200M runway extensions needed to make Canary Wharf to Toronto CBD a walkable experience with only a short direct flight in between... Alas...
Fuck Toronto. The people that killed Bombardier and were hoping this project failed are from Toronto. Nothing personal against you though. I lived there. But know more than you would care about this plane. You just knew from the bashing from the globe& mail and all media outside Quebec they hated this thing from the start. Bombardier could have been saved many times. But we’re called corporate welfare bums, those Quebec hillbillies. This and that. You just freaking knew. Now you guys era burying us with a 600000 to 800000 new English only speakers a year . The coup de grace is being given. After the fatal shot in 95 when you bunch of (…) stole our country. When someone is in the country for 2 months given citizenship in other to neutralize the vote of someone whos family has been contributing for 20 generations that vote he got in a few weeks in tok out 20 people behind my mom and that hope (freedom from you guys) was the only reason they kept going Thanks a lot. Or our “fellow Canadians citizens” who came and did the same to save “Canada” thousands and thousands did, and destroyed the culture. I’m so angry. “The “nice” Canadians “ lol .the next one who call me a racist will be making a big mistake. Or saying Québécois voted to stay in Canada.. that will be a big mistake as well as. We voted to go it was hijacked 30 000 votes was the difference. If you believe it was va legit. If you believe we want to be tethered to the people that exploited you and your family for a loooong time. It’s insulting. Oh. By the way, did you know that lower Canada paid the dept Upper Canada incurred for its infrastructure much higher than ours by the way. Thanks for the exploitation. We’re almost gone. Thanks for the Canadian bilingualism laws. Which the Only objective was to give legal plateforme so you can invade the province and not learn it. How’s your French? Or the dude in Saskatchewan? Sorry about this rant. I’m freakin angry.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I really hope they aren’t forced to. The A220 and E2 is so much better than the Comac offerings and also have a support network for parts etc which Comac doesn’t have just like with Russians. Many African airlines also already fly the E1 E-Jets so it makes sense for them to buy the the E2 as natural successor with similar pilot training and much lower maintenance and fuel costs
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 i doubt they will be forced. Afrika china relations have been growing over the last decade and the comac seems to be a good aircraft and great value. Would be good to see a third manufacturer come into the market and able to compete.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I agree we need a 3rd rival but I’d rather it be Toyota who makes very good cars as I don’t have much faith with Comac. Both their 2 main aircraft have been very delayed and are a generation or 2 behind their closet Western rivals from an efficiency point of view (even with C919 despite using the CFM LEAP Western engine). We’ll have to wait and see what happens despite China’s improving relationship with some African countries
and would have been dead if not for Airbus. Your american neighbours would have killed it. So say thanks to Airbus for keeping the plane alive and jobs in canada alive
Why don't say the whole story on the lawsuit? It was Boeing who took Bombardier to court and that is when Airbus stepped in with their building facility in Mobile.
Started working on the C-Series on some of the primary structures in the end of 2010... till Bombardier gave it away to Airbus. Inspected the first Bird strike cockpit and the first CAST stress unit up to around 100 production units in 2020. I am still proud of this aircraft and hope it succeeds as the A220 but in my heart it will always be the C-Series.
yeah ..it would have been a dead horse if not for Airbus. Jobs lost in Canada. Boring would have killed Bombardier. Doesent matter how you think of the plane or what his name means to you. It would have been dead if not for Airbus
Not for Bombarder anymore as they’ve exited the program because with Airbus having the majority of it, they required Bombarder (who had 31% after giving away 50.1% to Airbus and the Quebec Government owning 7%) to put a certain of money they didn’t have in the program to invest in it further. The result is the program is now 75% Airbus owned and 25% Quebec Government. Bombardier also selled the rest of their commercial aircraft programs shortly after due to heavy losses
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 What planes do Bombardier make now? I know they make trains and trams. The Dash 8, CRJ, C-series, all sold. What's left?
Nothing left now apart from a few business jets but even some of those have been sold due to heavy losses also. They may well stick to their train business going forward if it doesn’t lose money like their aviation side
Bombardier family has basically ruined the company. One of the worst run companies in the world. So much for the “Maitre chez-nous” philosophy. Corrupt family has cost thousands of Canadian jobs. They will be gone completely within 3 years. You can’t sustain a company by building just two niche market private jets.
First, Canada rules! Second, I loved the shot of the A220 landing at YTZ (Billy Bishop Airport, formerly Toronto Island Airport). Nice to see the CN Tower. Third, with the 737 MAX being all but dead, the A220 is set to take over from the 737. That's why I think.
Want to know how British Airways going to replace the A318 flight From London city airport to New York? Go Supersonic or A220? A220 can fly direct between London to New York according to data.
The future is going to be a battle between the A321XLR, A220-200, and the Boeing 737s. Far down the road one can include the Boeing 797 if it gets off the ground well enough.
XLR is long haul version, A220 is regional jet, if u wanna go big with hub and spoke system u buy a 75 A220, some A320neos, and 25 a350xwb XLR. Boeing just doesn't have a plane for regional operation less than 70pax, maybe Embraer E2. U can get a 787s for long haul, but still 737 isn't regional jet or Boeing return with Combi variant
That was from a big rebranding where Simple Flying changed the design and this channel's name to "Takeoff"... The majority of subbers didn't like that name so SF re-rebranded it as long haul but kept the "Takeoff" design
As much as I’d love the A220 to still be a Bombardier product, I don’t think it would have had nearly the success it’s had without the backing of Airbus. At least it’s still made in Canada
@@HellStr82 maybe they won in the end. Bombardier sold off it's trains and all its commercial aircraft branches. It now only makes a few private business jets. It's a shell of it's former self
Boeing will struggle to compete with a damaged reputation as well. They can fix the MAX issues all they like but airlines will always think twice about buying a Boeing from now on. Profit before people never pays!!!
Airbus A220 has the widest seat on any aircraft, competing with Embraer E-jets in second place. It is wider than even long haulers like Boeing 747, Airbus A380, the 787 or A350. It also boast the biggest economy lavatory space. This is my new favourite aircraft.
The possibilities for Southwest making an order are interesting. Inertia would favour Boeing, less training and maintaining continuity of their long time business model with the 737, BUT and it is a very big BUT, there is lingering mistrust of the 737 MAX and that is not likely to be forgotten soon. I would estimate that 10 to 15% of air travellers will continue to believe that the MAX is an inherently unstable aircraft that requires complex flight trim software to maintain stability. That means a significant minority of passengers may refuse to fly on the MAX. In that context it could make sense for Southwest to place a significant order for A220's and to negotiate a discount to cover pilot training and familiarization. Less risky than gambling on the flying public forgetting the last 2 years of Boeing safety failures.
It was the Liberals who blocked it . Can't have Porter flying from Billy Bishop to London City when they want Air Canada to have that as yet undeveloped route . Wait for it ...
The A220 is for sure the go to aircraft right now. Boeing has a share problem because they don't have anything to compare to the A220. And with Boeing's safety and QC issues combined they have a serious problem.
A220-100 with premium economy should have 70 seat, that Regional jet. A220 now canibalize smaller A318-A319 (both same type rating as A320s), A320 can go maybe one generation more, then we should start A220-500
I was thrilled when Laurent Beaudoin talked about the C-series. I was surprised the media when the media outside Quebec were either unimpressed or hostile to the idea. The negativity got worse as the ageing CEO announced Bombardier was going ahead with the C-series despite most Canada against it. In Toronto, I haven’t heard a good word about Bombardier or the c-series in years. The Globe & Mail, published dozens of articles criticizing the C-series program and the old style family owned and controlled of Laurent Beaudoin, family owned and controlled multinational giant company management. Wether on T.V.,a on the street, on social media Pundits everywhere on T.V. at work, why you how you can’t have a family owned and controlled multinational company Canadians just hated on Beaudoin and the Bombardier family. Report about how bad that family was and this and that. Remember that WITHOUT THE OLD MAN, this plane would not exist. Brazil buys Brazilian planes. USA buys Boeings, France and Germany buys Airbus, Spain buy Airbus. Canada did not buy a plane. That means 0 planes. To be fair, Porter ordered 40 but was forced to cancel. The excuse? Too noisy (quietest aircraft by 50% lol) they get away with that shit all the time. Air cash Canada from Montreal, bought 60 A-220 planes only a few days after. it wasn’t Bombardier no more. Suddenly it’s a great Canadian plane. A great Canadian design, made in Canada 🍁 Canadians taking all the shine from something they tried to kill. Pathetic “Nice” Canadians basking in the glory of having killed two birds with one stone. They took down one of the province’ jewel. You could feel how happy, see the glee, the shadenfreude they had towards the company from Quebec and didn’t not care a bit for the pain folks in the province felt. Once again, more Canadians Backstabbing. BRAG about how great CANADIANS ARE AT MAKING PLANES. Pretty disgusting. Once again: IT’S NOT MADE IN CANADA, ITS MADE IN QUEBEC. The rest of Canada 🍁 the RoC, just can’t find pride if it’s from “that province” they want to take it down like they prevented Quebec from nationalizing it’s Hydro Power for 50 years in order to keep them in absolute poverty. Canadians and its government can’t have anything successful from Quebec since they are trying to finish off the French speaking minority. To anyone outside Canada 🍁 and to Canadians, not aware, please know that in 1870 before the hordes of blood thirsty Orangemen arrived Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Alberta were 85% francophone, now?? It’s 1.3%, just enough to claim WE TAKE CARE OF THE FRENCH COMMUNITY. But when you listen to them, Quebec’s Francos are so racist. They pose as the “nice” Canadians at the same time as they strangle us. THEY STOLE OUR COUNTRY IN1995, better believe it. They won’t let the vagaries of democracy impede their plan to RULE EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE LAND. Canada 🍁 is not big enough it seems Canada is NOT for everyone. YOU BOW DOWN TO THE ANGLOS OR they WILL take you down. Quebec was exploited and kept as cheap labour they are meant to be some second class citizens. So, FoooK CANADA 🍁 and it’s useless government.
Foook Canada. They could have help and didn’t. 300millions$ Quebec 1,3 billions it couldn’t put more due to trade rules. And Canada does not say boo about it . When did Canada fight for anything Quebec???! They could have help and didn’t
So if the A220 has such a range, why don't more airlines use it for long haul across the Atlantic? I mean it could go to Boston, Hartford, and other underserved cities in the Northeast.
@@neshwanarif4047 not just fuel alone, but airlines have to consider other items like crew, aircraft availability, slot pairs and landing fee. There has to be enough demand to fill both to and from these underserved mkts
Like a parent who raised a magnificent kid that got taken over by child care services, we didn't have the means to sent it to college or even feed it, but what a great kid this is! Long live the A220!
Our experience of the A220 (LCY-ZRH) is not good. We really wanted to like it, but we found the cabin ventilation rather noisy, and it didn’t help that the pressurisation malfunctioned on the return flight, forcing a return to ZRH, and transfer to a LHR flight several hours later.
I did think it was most likely because they worked out that despite the better efficiency of A220-300, the cost of retraining all the 737-700 pilots was too expensive and also makes no sense to operate both Max 7 and A220-300 as low cost airlines only stick to 1 plane and it’s associated variants
Boeing did many stupid things in the last ten years, but its strategy and actions on A220 and its predecessor were inexcusable. It further pushed Delta toward Airbus camp.
i bet they did it to get a better discount from Boeing. i bet Boeing were saying B.O.G.O.F. (buy one get one free) and Southwest said B.O.G.E.F (buy one get eight free). they probably met in the middle
@@jamesnicholls9969 I’m sure they got a great deal no doubt but it’s not that extreme. Boeing always have the upper hand. It would’ve been very expensive for Southwest to integrate another fleet. It was always just negotiating in the press. I doubt airbus even submitted a formal proposal
The fact that Boeing tried to eliminate the CSeries by imposing the import tariff, then Airbus stepped in. Really didn't think this through.
That's because the 2019 Boeing management is a group of lying, murdering, greedy imbeciles.
In fact, Boeing's interference made things much worse! With Airbus' sales and support network, there will be even more CSeries/A220s sold than if Boeing didn't butt in and Bombardier went at it alone.
Boing has no jack o trades left under their sleeves
Airbus ate Boeing's lunch!
It wasn't Boeing, it was the buddy pal relationship with Donald Dump and Boeing. Only the government can set tariffs on imported goods. Donald never realized that his stupid plan to hurt Bombardier went off in their ugly faces. By disrupting free trade only hurt the American economy because most of the aircraft parts came from US Aerospace companies. The slowdown hurt America more while Airbus and Bombardier found viable markets for this aircraft and continued to sell this revolutionary jet. Delta and Jet Blue have seen the value this aircraft brings to the industry and are buying lots of them.
The A220 is a brilliant, efficient Canadian design and execution. Long may she rule the skies.
Absolutely. I feel like Airbus really lucked out with the deal to buy this amazing Canadian plane. It's too bad Bombardier had to sell it off due to debt though :(
@@revaholic Without Airbus, Maybe Boeing would won the war and this great airplane would no exist anymore
I’m not Canadian, but I wish Airbus changed the A220’s house livery a little to reflect its Canadian origins. Maybe a red colour scheme instead? Like the black they used for the A350?
@@daltonmojica Airbus seldom mentions it's Canadian origins, they could not re-brand it fast enough to make it their 'own' !!
@@revaholic I would've liked to seen it as an exclusive Canadian built & owned aircraft. !
How ironic the plane Boeing tried to destroy has become a major pain in the butt for them.
Boeing deserves it after the negligence of the 737 max.
Full story is Delta wanna smaller plane because pilot's unions have some limits, Boeing offer 737maxes but Delta wanna smaller (Union limits)
they choose new airframes from Bombardier, Boeing told this plane was sold under cost of production, go to administration, and administration imposed tariffs on "imported" planes. Airbus buy a 50.1 of program and offer investment in reconfigure Mobile Alabama plant to bulid in US. Rest of world gets a A220 from Canada Mirabelle ex-bombardier plant.
Bombardier leave program completely.
As great as the A220 is, the "consideration" by Southwest was pretty obviously a headfake to get a good deal on some Max aircraft.
Yeah but for the long-term, it would actually work for them well if they started creating a sub-fleet of A220.
Thumbs up for a simple yet very accurate analogy.
yeah you fly the 737 MAX mate...take your family with you. Would you?
Southwest's loss !!
@@im_linus I'd never step on a 737 Max. Shitty plane
I like that plane very much, I am frequent traveler of AirBaltic, and can say, that A220 is very comfortable and silent plane. Usually my flights was with turboprops Q400, and then from time to time those flights was operated with A220,
for example from Riga to Helsinki. Diference is to cmpare day and night. Q400 is good, but it is still aging turboprop. Now, when AirBaltic is all A220 airline, I will not need to guess, which plane I will have for the flight.
Whf is A200
I really like AirBaltic. I hope they survive the crisis well and have the opportunity to expand.
@@todortodorov940 agree, personally I think it is one of the best airlines in the world. Before pandemic, I was flying 40+ flights a year, and most with them. I don’t have single bad experience.
@@todortodorov940 With A220 they have the right plane for it.
The fact that the C series aka A220 is Canadian built, makes me feel proud of the Canadian aviation industry. :)
I'm also in Canada and feel the same way about the A220. Despite the turbulence experienced while in development, the aircraft has turned into a great success story for the Canadian Aerospace industry. Boeing's loss has become Airbus' gain.
It's a shame that difficult circumstances forced them to sell the program to airbus. I'm not Canadian but it feels good to know that Airbus and Boeing's duopoly can be challenged.
Are they still being made in Canada?
@@markiangooley I believe that they are....except for the ones that have been ordered for the US market. Those are built at the Airbus facility on Mobile, Alabama
Rob K US carriers still have Canadian build a220s
With what I've seen in comments and reviews, people absolutely adore this plane. I can't wait to fly on an A220 myself.
Be patient, Canada. Although the Avro Arrow didn't make it, give it five more years, and your CSeries-A220 will take over the world...
I mean between the CRJ, Q-series, and DHC-6 Twin Otter, Canadian air manufacturing has long dominated short haul and regional aircraft
@@teepicgamer7374 This is actually true. Canada’s always been a beast in the regional market.
@@teepicgamer7374 True haha. The majority of regional routes I’ve flown on were from Canadian manufacturers
With this collaboration, I’m excited to see what will go with the Canadian aviation industry when they’ll gain an even bigger market. And Bombardier is a great company ngl
@@aspiringcaptain they now don't have any shares with a220, it's 75-25 Airbus - Quebec gov.
Recently flown on the Swiss Air A220. I have to say I liked it a lot. Quiet, spacious, comfortable seats, big overhead bins. Would fly again, can recommend
When I still frequently traveled to Switzerland for work pre Covid I always hoped the Swiss flight would be a C-Series (A220). I simply love flying that plane. Big windows make for great views and lots of light in the cabin, the Recaro seats are very comfortable and it's one of the quitest planes I've been in.
I love this plane. It looks so sleek. I hope I get to ride one someday.
And thank you Long Haul for listening to your fans.
I’m melting over ther A220, A350 and A380 🤤❤️ Also, loved the A220 of airBaltic💚
All good things to love.
A220 range of 3400nm is excellent for a small aircraft. If airbus can make a A220XLR with 3700-4000nm, then it would be another game changer like the A321XLR. There are a lot of skinny long routes.
Boeing needs to come out with a 757 size with range of 6000-7000+ nm. They would be able to sell a lot of that!
Airbus has brought the A220-300 range to a full 3550 nm this week! The range change applies to existing and future aircraft, and with no physical modifications needed. And yes, airlines want even more range out of the A220-300, possibly using auxiliary tanks from the ACJ, and possibly up to 4000 nm.
I almost exclusively flew (can't wait until I am doing so again) on Lufthansa Group Aircraft. Because of my departure and destination, it meant changing at a hub. Depending on the day/time, one of the legs was regularly on a 'Regional' type of theirs or one of their 'partners' i.e. Helvetic.
From experience of numerous different aircraft, only the A220 and the (now retired) Fokker 100 felt anything like full sized aircraft made just a little smaller. All the others felt like small aircraft made a little bigger. Consequently, if an A220 was scheduled, I felt as if I was getting full value from my ticket.
A fantastic plane. Hoping for the 500 version.
I'm so thankful that y'all listened to us viewers, that's very rare on UA-cam…
Simple Flying rocks & so does Long Haul by Simple Flying!!
yes i agree thx simple flying!
I've always thought that if I ever had to start a new airline, a new all-A220 fleet that would serve underserved markets all across Europe would be where I'd go :)
Yess, bring smooth landings to everyone.
Meet Air Baltic
'Since its launch, the Airbus A220 has been incredibly popular'. Well, let's not forget the bumpy start it had before joining the Airbus family involuntarily. It faced fierce competition and ruthless boycotting from Boeing. At one point we were lamenting that this marvelous little Canadian-built plane would go nowhere, because it was a Bombardier. But luckily, provided with Airbus's resources, this little plane is now doing extremely well. The former design team at Bombardier deserves some huge respect for creating this machine.
Qantas NEEDS to order the A220
Love the A220
Boeing thought they were so smooth and shot themselves in the foot
yes, boeing's actions backfired. Boeing should've bought the a220 program rather than attempt to block bombardier, which was already struggling. then the a220 fell into Airbus hands for so little money. if Boeing decides to develop a rival to the a220, Boeing would have to spend billions, not the $1 that Airbus spent. Boeing could try to buy the inferior e2 from Embraer, but not sure of Embraer liked Boeing right now
@@tomAkelife-ff9tf If I remember correctly...Boeing shot themselves in the other foot by walking out of the deal with Embraer a coupe of months ago.
@@BlackKnight344 If I remember Boeing and Embraer walked away from the deal and were both very pissed. I don't know what they Expected, but unless some external factors push/force both companies to try to renegotiate the deal - it is off.
@@BlackKnight344 I like to think that they shot themselves in the butt!
i think they shot themselves in both of their feet, one for the bombardier CS tariff and the other for the embraer deal that fell through
Embraer be like: I guess I’m irrelevant
They released the E2 seris
Its crazy. It gets very little press and doesn't seam to be selling like the A220. I am curious why? Marketing, etc?
@@currituck e2 is inferior to a220 in range and capacity. needs to be discounted more to be competitive I think
@@tomAkelife-ff9tf Embraer also doesn’t have the same marketing power which is very important to win customers. The E2 was made to be a natural successor to the E1 which had higher than expected maintenance costs hence similar capacity
@@currituck E2 is cheaper as well compared to A220.
I love the content, good job Long Haul 👍
A220!! ❤️
Love the story. Wonderful Canadian aircraft that got into difficulties, made worse by US tariffs then rescued by Airbus who had manufacturing facilities in US. I'm flying from LA to San Diego in a few months time. I hope Delta operate the A220 on that route.
Delta A220 has been great every time I have flown on it. Only flown on routes between IAH SLC.
The a220 will certainly stay for years to come
I hope you have studied for the Virgin Atlantic quiz
i hope the A220 is the go-to aircraft if Virgin Atlantic ever enters the short haul market
Flew one on Delta last year; a very superior machine. I'd almost feel sorry for the developers of the C Series except that is was Bombardier.
Great aircraft. There are still incrimental improvements to be made to wring out more mpg. In fact, I just heard today, Airbus squeezed another 200 nm out of it. Cheers.
Airlines are still demanding more. The A220-300 now lifts the same payload (almost 20 tonnes) as the A320neo, but 200 nm is still not enough and they are rooting for a full-blown long-haul A220-300.
The technology for more miles is there. Take a look at the new ACJ twotwenty. Long range tanks have been added to the A220-100. It is a matter of time before a customer asks for them on the A220-300. Cheers.
A220 is also the prettiest Airbus plane :)
It's pretty, but I like better the wing profile of the A380 when looking at it from the front.
It's nice, but a 350 is a stunning plane
A350 is my personal fave. She’s gorgeous
A350 is pretty cool looking
A350, A220 and the MD80 series’ of planes are the nicest looking planes of all time in aviation imo.
„Dispute overt tariffs“ seems a bit too kind for what happened. It was the US government attempt to finish the Boeing 737 competitor before it started. It was just another US protectionist move.
The Canadian Bombardier C series is a true engineering marvel. Airbus will take the A 220 to the next level I strongly believe it will be game changer.
More efficient, pilots and passengers just Love it. It has the latest technology something the Boeing Max 737 can never match.
Stay Corvid Free.
I don't think that Southwest will add the A220 to its fleet. Boeing will bend over backwards to keep Southwest an all-Boeing fleet. It would look pretty bad if Southwest opted for anything other than the 737 MAX.
Agree. But this will give them the leverage to twist Boeings arm and purchase MAX'es for breadcrumbs. After all, the MAX has lost some popularity since two airplanes were introduced to the effects of gravity and the hardness of Earth. Boeing will be more than welcome to sell MAX to anybody and also to keep Southwest in their grip at any cost. They may even give them an offer: Buy 1 and get 3 for free.
Southwest passengers lose. Southern folk ain't getting any slimmer to ride in those 737 seats.
According to the Air Current, the order is already done. They'll go for the Max7, they probably used the A220 for negotiation
@@todortodorov940 lol, but true
@@misterff1629 I hope they did, because they'll be prisoners of Boeing. Let's hope a third one doesn't ground the fleet again... Short term vision is good, in the short term.
Never been in one. But the mirabel factory is just down the road from me. I should pop by and ask for a tour and maybe even a flight!
Southwest keeps dodging disaster by having such a large, all B737 fleet. Imagine the 737MAX grounding for 2-years without a pandemic while their competitors were free to dig into market share, etc. And they're doing it again by not making any hedge, trusting Boeing and the 737MAX program to fly them into the wild, blue yonder. But for how long? They'll be making a change at some point and kicking that can down the road seems to be their affirmative choice.
Yeah. They liked the dangerous aircraft over the very safe aircraft.
Born 🇨🇦, raised in 🇫🇷🇩🇪🇬🇧🇪🇸
Hey ... Canadians are an eclectic bunch.
This channel is amazing! And so is the plane, it's a shame that it killed Bombardier Aerospace to bring it to production.
The A220 is just an all-round winner. Size, range, efficiency...straight 10s. It is also very aesthetically pleasing. It's a toss-up for me between the A220 and 737 in terms of design (737 probably still edges it out for me though XD). Boeing is definitely going to target this market with their clean-sheet 737 replacement.
AIRBUS IS WINNING OWER BOEING...BY FAR....YES AIRBUS.
I love the new background music.
This plane can be instant hit in india, i don't know why no indian airlines has ordered it yet 🙄
@Boeing 737 MAX 8 i mean there are so many regional routes in india which doesn't require planes as big as a321neo or even a320 or 737-800, they're operated by either Dash-8/ATR(full capacity) or a320/737(with empty seats). A220 will be perfect for such routes. Lets see, but i see future of this aircraft in india for sure.
A220 is such a beautiful airplane.
It's the ideal plane for the modern world of thin and long routes. This is a jet that can take off from London City and fly transatlantic without stopping for a re-fuel which even British Airways A318's couldn't... Now if only Toronto City had allowed the 200M runway extensions needed to make Canary Wharf to Toronto CBD a walkable experience with only a short direct flight in between... Alas...
Fuck Toronto. The people that killed Bombardier and were hoping this project failed are from Toronto. Nothing personal against you though. I lived there. But know more than you would care about this plane.
You just knew from the bashing from the globe& mail and all media outside Quebec they hated this thing from the start. Bombardier could have been saved many times. But we’re called corporate welfare bums, those Quebec hillbillies. This and that. You just freaking knew. Now you guys era burying us with a 600000 to 800000 new English only speakers a year . The coup de grace is being given. After the fatal shot in 95 when you bunch of (…) stole our country. When someone is in the country for 2 months given citizenship in other to neutralize the vote of someone whos family has been contributing for 20 generations that vote he got in a few weeks in tok out 20 people behind my mom and that hope (freedom from you guys) was the only reason they kept going Thanks a lot. Or our “fellow Canadians citizens” who came and did the same to save “Canada” thousands and thousands did, and destroyed the culture. I’m so angry. “The “nice” Canadians “ lol .the next one who call me a racist will be making a big mistake. Or saying Québécois voted to stay in Canada.. that will be a big mistake as well as. We voted to go it was hijacked 30 000 votes was the difference. If you believe it was va legit. If you believe we want to be tethered to the people that exploited you and your family for a loooong time. It’s insulting. Oh. By the way, did you know that lower Canada paid the dept Upper Canada incurred for its infrastructure much higher than ours by the way. Thanks for the exploitation. We’re almost gone. Thanks for the Canadian bilingualism laws. Which the Only objective was to give legal plateforme so you can invade the province and not learn it. How’s your French? Or the dude in Saskatchewan? Sorry about this rant. I’m freakin angry.
Can easily be the ideal aircraft for African carriers looking to replace existing fleets and grow across the continent.
Africa will adopt the comac aircraft. That is china's playground.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I really hope they aren’t forced to. The A220 and E2 is so much better than the Comac offerings and also have a support network for parts etc which Comac doesn’t have just like with Russians. Many African airlines also already fly the E1 E-Jets so it makes sense for them to buy the the E2 as natural successor with similar pilot training and much lower maintenance and fuel costs
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 i doubt they will be forced. Afrika china relations have been growing over the last decade and the comac seems to be a good aircraft and great value.
Would be good to see a third manufacturer come into the market and able to compete.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I agree we need a 3rd rival but I’d rather it be Toyota who makes very good cars as I don’t have much faith with Comac. Both their 2 main aircraft have been very delayed and are a generation or 2 behind their closet Western rivals from an efficiency point of view (even with C919 despite using the CFM LEAP Western engine). We’ll have to wait and see what happens despite China’s improving relationship with some African countries
I still think of the A220 as the C series. Made IN Canada by Canadians!
Yet airbus owns 75%
and would have been dead if not for Airbus. Your american neighbours would have killed it. So say thanks to Airbus for keeping the plane alive and jobs in canada alive
Why don't say the whole story on the lawsuit? It was Boeing who took Bombardier to court and that is when Airbus stepped in with their building facility in Mobile.
Started working on the C-Series on some of the primary structures in the end of 2010... till Bombardier gave it away to Airbus. Inspected the first Bird strike cockpit and the first CAST stress unit up to around 100 production units in 2020. I am still proud of this aircraft and hope it succeeds as the A220 but in my heart it will always be the C-Series.
yeah ..it would have been a dead horse if not for Airbus. Jobs lost in Canada. Boring would have killed Bombardier. Doesent matter how you think of the plane or what his name means to you. It would have been dead if not for Airbus
looks absolutely beautiful
I'd love to fly in one may be after pandemic things calm down a a bit
Pandemic or not Airbus has the best planes of the world today.
Love this little plane! Cant wait for our domestic airlines here in SA to see the light and replace their 737`s with this aircraft .
The A220 is basically a win-win situation both for Bombardier, Airbus, airlines and their passengers.
Not for Bombarder anymore as they’ve exited the program because with Airbus having the majority of it, they required Bombarder (who had 31% after giving away 50.1% to Airbus and the Quebec Government owning 7%) to put a certain of money they didn’t have in the program to invest in it further. The result is the program is now 75% Airbus owned and 25% Quebec Government. Bombardier also selled the rest of their commercial aircraft programs shortly after due to heavy losses
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 What planes do Bombardier make now? I know they make trains and trams. The Dash 8, CRJ, C-series, all sold. What's left?
Nothing left now apart from a few business jets but even some of those have been sold due to heavy losses also. They may well stick to their train business going forward if it doesn’t lose money like their aviation side
Bombardier family has basically ruined the company. One of the worst run companies in the world. So much for the “Maitre chez-nous” philosophy. Corrupt family has cost thousands of Canadian jobs. They will be gone completely within 3 years. You can’t sustain a company by building just two niche market private jets.
@@esitu5655 They are a massive (and profitable) train and tram manufacturer. They are not going anywhere fast.
Absolutely gorgeous aircraft
Nice to see Pratt & Whitney gets some business with their engine designs for a change.
I love A220 for its cabin comfort as well.
First, Canada rules! Second, I loved the shot of the A220 landing at YTZ (Billy Bishop Airport, formerly Toronto Island Airport). Nice to see the CN Tower. Third, with the 737 MAX being all but dead, the A220 is set to take over from the 737.
That's why I think.
You know, with the third statement I think you're not wrong...
With the latest upgraded MTOW to 70.9T & further range to 3550nm A220-300 Will definitely be the winner of its class🛫🤓
A Canadian Winner!
Yesss the old style is back!
Want to know how British Airways going to replace the A318 flight From London city airport to New York? Go Supersonic or A220? A220 can fly direct between London to New York according to data.
What about embraer?
The future is going to be a battle between the A321XLR, A220-200, and the Boeing 737s. Far down the road one can include the Boeing 797 if it gets off the ground well enough.
XLR is long haul version, A220 is regional jet, if u wanna go big with hub and spoke system u buy a 75 A220, some A320neos, and 25 a350xwb XLR.
Boeing just doesn't have a plane for regional operation less than 70pax, maybe Embraer E2.
U can get a 787s for long haul, but still 737 isn't regional jet or Boeing return with Combi variant
Damm u updated long haul so much that it dosent look like its self again but its still good
That was from a big rebranding where Simple Flying changed the design and this channel's name to "Takeoff"... The majority of subbers didn't like that name so SF re-rebranded it as long haul but kept the "Takeoff" design
@@airbus_a320neo ik im not dumb ive been here since the channel started
I am pissed off that they change the name of the plane. I am an ex employee of Bombardier and saw the developpement of this jewel!!!!!
As much as I’d love the A220 to still be a Bombardier product, I don’t think it would have had nearly the success it’s had without the backing of Airbus. At least it’s still made in Canada
yeah i agree..the americans would have killed Bombardier. Now they regret messing with the little guy
@@HellStr82 maybe they won in the end. Bombardier sold off it's trains and all its commercial aircraft branches. It now only makes a few private business jets. It's a shell of it's former self
but Boeing still mess up there because now their main rival airbus now got hold of an aircraft that boeing has no answer to so even bigger issue.
Boeing will struggle to compete with a damaged reputation as well. They can fix the MAX issues all they like but airlines will always think twice about buying a Boeing from now on. Profit before people never pays!!!
I consider the A220 my precious baby and a fruit of technological advancements, I hope to fly one one day
Another big advantage with the A220 over the 737 MAX: it hasn't murdered anyone.
Canadian innovation and know how!! At heart, will always be the C-Series regardless of re-branding!
I'm pretty sure Delta never parked any of the A220s. They kept them flying becasue they could any route in the US with it becasue of the range.
Glad Long Haul is back but I still find some parts of their new videos seem more like Voxx instead of the traditional Simple Flying.
I think they'll need an A220-500 so secure a large number of 737 replacement orders.
In due time. We have to make this plane profitable first. Then, anything is possible: A220-500, A220-500-XLR.
Let's not reveal our hand too quickly.
also they had the a320neo for that
Airbus A220 has the widest seat on any aircraft, competing with Embraer E-jets in second place.
It is wider than even long haulers like Boeing 747, Airbus A380, the 787 or A350.
It also boast the biggest economy lavatory space. This is my new favourite aircraft.
0:58 Is the best Airline joke in the history!
Bruh
The possibilities for Southwest making an order are interesting. Inertia would favour Boeing, less training and maintaining continuity of their long time business model with the 737, BUT and it is a very big BUT, there is lingering mistrust of the 737 MAX and that is not likely to be forgotten soon. I would estimate that 10 to 15% of air travellers will continue to believe that the MAX is an inherently unstable aircraft that requires complex flight trim software to maintain stability. That means a significant minority of passengers may refuse to fly on the MAX. In that context it could make sense for Southwest to place a significant order for A220's and to negotiate a discount to cover pilot training and familiarization. Less risky than gambling on the flying public forgetting the last 2 years of Boeing safety failures.
that is because the 737 MAX is a flawed design. no ammount of software can fix an hardware problem mate.... the plane is shi.t
Please make a video on " Rise of airBaltic"
can the a220 land at billy bishop? 6:22
I thought that Porter had wanted to buy them and there was a proposal to extend the runway, but the planning authorities rejected the proposal.
It was the Liberals who blocked it . Can't have Porter flying from Billy Bishop to London City when they want Air Canada to have that as yet undeveloped route . Wait for it ...
The A220 is for sure the go to aircraft right now. Boeing has a share problem because they don't have anything to compare to the A220. And with Boeing's safety and QC issues combined they have a serious problem.
I use to be a boeing only person but now with all the problems Boeing has had I just wish there was more competition
How about a A220 500? Would probably "canibalize" the A 320 but guess how big the market potential would be.
A220-100 with premium economy should have 70 seat, that Regional jet. A220 now canibalize smaller A318-A319 (both same type rating as A320s), A320 can go maybe one generation more, then we should start A220-500
A matter of pride for Canada !
I was thrilled when Laurent Beaudoin talked about the C-series. I was surprised the media when the media outside Quebec were either unimpressed or hostile to the idea. The negativity got worse as the ageing CEO announced Bombardier was going ahead with the C-series despite most Canada against it. In Toronto, I haven’t heard a good word about Bombardier or the c-series in years. The Globe & Mail, published dozens of articles criticizing the C-series program and the old style family owned and controlled of Laurent Beaudoin, family owned and controlled multinational giant company management. Wether on T.V.,a on the street, on social media Pundits everywhere on T.V. at work, why you how you can’t have a family owned and controlled multinational company
Canadians just hated on Beaudoin and the Bombardier family. Report about how bad that family was and this and that. Remember that WITHOUT THE OLD MAN, this plane would not exist.
Brazil buys Brazilian planes. USA buys Boeings, France and Germany buys Airbus, Spain buy Airbus. Canada did not buy a plane. That means 0 planes. To be fair, Porter ordered 40 but was forced to cancel. The excuse? Too noisy (quietest aircraft by 50% lol) they get away with that shit all the time. Air cash Canada from Montreal, bought 60 A-220 planes only a few days after. it wasn’t Bombardier no more. Suddenly it’s a great Canadian plane. A great Canadian design, made in Canada 🍁
Canadians taking all the shine from something they tried to kill. Pathetic “Nice” Canadians basking in the glory of having killed two birds with one stone. They took down one of the province’ jewel. You could feel how happy, see the glee, the shadenfreude they had towards the company from Quebec and didn’t not care a bit for the pain folks in the province felt. Once again, more Canadians Backstabbing. BRAG about how great CANADIANS ARE AT MAKING PLANES. Pretty disgusting. Once again: IT’S NOT MADE IN CANADA, ITS MADE IN QUEBEC.
The rest of Canada 🍁 the RoC, just can’t find pride if it’s from “that province” they want to take it down like they prevented Quebec from nationalizing it’s Hydro Power for 50 years in order to keep them in absolute poverty.
Canadians and its government can’t have anything successful from Quebec since they are trying to finish off the French speaking minority.
To anyone outside Canada 🍁 and to Canadians, not aware, please know that in 1870 before the hordes of blood thirsty Orangemen arrived
Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Alberta were 85% francophone, now?? It’s 1.3%, just enough to claim WE TAKE CARE OF THE FRENCH COMMUNITY.
But when you listen to them, Quebec’s Francos are so racist.
They pose as the “nice” Canadians at the same time as they strangle us. THEY STOLE OUR COUNTRY IN1995, better believe it. They won’t let the vagaries of democracy impede their plan to RULE EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE LAND. Canada 🍁 is not big enough it seems Canada is NOT for everyone. YOU BOW DOWN TO THE ANGLOS OR they WILL take you down. Quebec was exploited and kept as cheap labour they are meant to be some second class citizens.
So, FoooK CANADA 🍁 and it’s useless government.
Foook Canada. They could have help and didn’t. 300millions$ Quebec 1,3 billions it couldn’t put more due to trade rules. And Canada does not say boo about it . When did Canada fight for anything Quebec???! They could have help and didn’t
So if the A220 has such a range, why don't more airlines use it for long haul across the Atlantic? I mean it could go to Boston, Hartford, and other underserved cities in the Northeast.
At some point it’s not economical and environmentally friendly anymore and only connecting comparable bigger cities is beneficial
@@spongebubatz Elaborate?
@@neshwanarif4047 not just fuel alone, but airlines have to consider other items like crew, aircraft availability, slot pairs and landing fee. There has to be enough demand to fill both to and from these underserved mkts
@@bobchan1666 Well that's true.
Isn't it possible to stimulate demand like Azul does? I mean if you bring the price down low enough, people might be interested?
If Southwest does break into the Airbus market, that's going to change aviation big time.
I wonder how Bombardier feels about it now
Like a parent who raised a magnificent kid that got taken over by child care services, we didn't have the means to sent it to college or even feed it, but what a great kid this is! Long live the A220!
I can already picture Boeing working on a makeshift competitor for the a220 and hope it doesn't turn out to be another Max mess up.
It will be the B737 min
Time after time Boeing missed an opportunity and has management stupid enough to keep accepting flawed business cases against new models.
I agree. They should have bought Embraer. I can't believe they backed out. The E2 jets would have given them what they don't have.
Like before watch 😊
It would be fantastic if Qantas purchased the A220
Our experience of the A220 (LCY-ZRH) is not good. We really wanted to like it, but we found the cabin ventilation rather noisy, and it didn’t help that the pressurisation malfunctioned on the return flight, forcing a return to ZRH, and transfer to a LHR flight several hours later.
its ok mate.. you can allways go on a trip with the 737 MAX . could be your last but hey at least you`ll enjoy the ride down
@@HellStr82 good one :D
@@HellStr82 lmao
Looking very nice.
Turns out Southwest chose the MAX
I did think it was most likely because they worked out that despite the better efficiency of A220-300, the cost of retraining all the 737-700 pilots was too expensive and also makes no sense to operate both Max 7 and A220-300 as low cost airlines only stick to 1 plane and it’s associated variants
Should have been obvious, southwest probably brought out the a220 order papers and Boeing offered them a buy one get 12 free deal
Perfect for pacific region
I miss the unsponsored content, so I don't have to skip it.
I wonder how they feel at Bombardier...
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Boeing did many stupid things in the last ten years, but its strategy and actions on A220 and its predecessor were inexcusable. It further pushed Delta toward Airbus camp.
Southwest has already decided to go with the MAX 7 and not the 220
i bet they did it to get a better discount from Boeing. i bet Boeing were saying B.O.G.O.F. (buy one get one free) and Southwest said B.O.G.E.F (buy one get eight free). they probably met in the middle
@@jamesnicholls9969 I’m sure they got a great deal no doubt but it’s not that extreme. Boeing always have the upper hand. It would’ve been very expensive for Southwest to integrate another fleet. It was always just negotiating in the press. I doubt airbus even submitted a formal proposal
Imagen if boeing took the a220 then airbus would finally have comption
Thank you very much - and yes: Southwest made its decision for the MAX - of course.
Southwest should make the switch
Too expensive and they’ve just in the last few hours ordered 100 more Max 7’s
Honestly never trusted Boeing or MD, airbus seem to be legit and not dodgy