First time viewer. 71 years old and lifelong western history fanatic. I was born in NM but have lived in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Arizona. Enjoyed your trip to Browns Park.
The outside of the cabins wood isn't aged as much as it was burnt on the service to prevent termites. I'm guessing the small post on the corners of roof and peak in front were to hang lanterns
That’s nice country up there, I was told by a ranger years back that Tom Horn had a shelf in the rock face on the other side of the Green river. If you know where the swinging bridge is it’s just a little west of the bridge. You could tell someone had fires up there, and just above it you could park your horse up there you can scan that whole valley up there!
If you haven't already you need to read "Where the Old West Stayed Young" by John Burroughs. I read a copy of it years ago that was owned by Burroughs grandson who is a friend of mine. It tells the story of Brown's Park and NW Colorado. You can't write a better western saga. I live near Brown's Park and have been there many times. You can also visit the Ann Bassett cabin near the museum in Dinosaur National Monument. An interesting note that I have read in a couple of places is that Ann stated that she had been visited by Butch Cassidy at least once after he had supposedly been killed in South America. Don't know if it's true or not but it sure is intriguing.
Tom Horn wrote a book called "Tom Horn Government Scout & Interpreter". After he was hanged, his friend rancher John Coble had his manuscript published along with some letters from Horn, Coble & Glendolyn Kimmel a school teacher & admirer of Horn. Horn wrote the manuscript while in prison awaiting his execution. Horn was also a braider, when I worked at the Tom Sun Ranch in Wyoming, I saw a bridle "documented to have been braided by Tom Horn"; it was in a glass display case in a museum at the ranch. The museum was a collection of Tom Sun's memorabilia. The ranch was sold to the LDS Church in 1997 I think it was , & they maintain the museum & a visitors center there presenting information about the Oregon Trail & Church History. There are not as many items in the museum now as there were when I worked there. I think the Sun family must have removed some of the items & apparently made an arrangement with the visitors center to maintain & display the rest, such as a rifle given to Tom Sun by Buffalo Bill & the afore mentioned bridle braided by Tom Horn, & many other interesting items.
First time viewer here, found the ruins on google earth near the Brown's Park Church and followed you and your boys around. The big logs and likely the rest of the wood was harvested 'on the spot' as the only place to build a ranch was where there was material to build with. Old photos of the Colorado foothills and near mining camps show the hills completely denuded, as every 'piece of wood' was on a first come, 'first get it' basis. Tom Horn's book is an interesting read, he is buried near the center of the south border of the Columbia Cemetery in Boulder CO... I came to Colorado in 1950 and have never been through Brown's Park, although near it on several occasions, so I really enjoyed the video and history lesson. Thumbs up and subscribed.
My 3rd cousins, the Hoys 5 brothers and a sister, had ranches at the time also. Valentine was shot and killed while pursuing the murders of a young ranch hand. They named Hoy mountain after him. Hoys marsh is still there on the north side of the green river. They raced horses on a hoy ranch, it was an old Ute race track, Butch Casady raced there, while he was still a wrangler. Louie la more, used Mexican Joe in the book, Ride the Dark Trail, which was associated with a real incident with Valentine. Mexican Joe was the leader of a gang, he’d pull his knife from behind his head and hone, just before he’d strike. Valentine pulled a boot knife and would have killed him if not for fact of his arm deflected by the gang. Cut Mexican Joe across the butt cheek so bad that he couldn’t sit for 3 weeks. James Hoy, journaled their time there, his manuscript was published by Colorado A&M college1952 . I’d like to have a copy.
The building partially underground and built with really substantial logs was meant to keep bears out of the food. A grizzly could have made "mince meat"of any other building there. Didn't get to see how, or if the door was really built up. The other structure you said had wood shaped with an axe could have also been shaped by an adze. I consider finding your site quite lucky because of the history, and getting to see what was built there!
Two doors on the building? Must’ve been men’s and women’s bathrooms! Just kidding. Maybe separate living quarters? Anyway, great video and history lesson….
To survive folks without consciences you have to give them a taste of their own medicine. Amongst outlaws there's always one or more psychotic criminals. As the outlaw line of work attracts criminals as well as outlaws. Both in the past and modern times. Also I was raised up with a double hole outhouse. It's because of multiple people will fill up the hole pretty quick. Straw and grasses was used to cover the mess to get it to compost. So the hole would fill up. Then it would be closed and we'd use the other hole until it filled. Closing that one up and opening the other. By that time it was all broken down. It's for when there's a large family. The pit was done in a bell shape and was 6 feet deep on our farm.
Tom Horn was a stock detective. A private cop for ranchers. They paid him to stop the rustling. Cattle rustling came with a death penalty in those days. Legend has it he found out too much and was framed for that boy's murder. You're way off on the reason for a two holer outhouse. The building with the odd doors would've been grain storage. Two doors in that other building would've been for ventilation in the summer as windows were expensive and hard to come by out there. So who owns it now?
Our ancestors were not confronted by homosexuality like we are today. Homosexuality was punishable by death or at least a severe beating. Were our ancestors more morally Christian in their practices than current people are? I think so! There were fewer of them and their rearing taught right from wrong! One rotten apple can and does spread to the whole at large. Vigilante justice was quick and final and each man bore the consequences for his own actions for the rest of his life and his children afterward.
First time viewer. 71 years old and lifelong western history fanatic. I was born in NM but have lived in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Arizona. Enjoyed your trip to Browns Park.
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Excellent place, photography, history.
Like the music, made it my bedtime story…
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The outside of the cabins wood isn't aged as much as it was burnt on the service to prevent termites. I'm guessing the small post on the corners of roof and peak in front were to hang lanterns
That’s nice country up there, I was told by a ranger years back that Tom Horn had a shelf in the rock face on the other side of the Green river. If you know where the swinging bridge is it’s just a little west of the bridge. You could tell someone had fires up there, and just above it you could park your horse up there you can scan that whole valley up there!
Great info. I will have to look for that.
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The larger door for a horse when caught in a blizzard.
Great video
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Agree with @terrykerr Lose the music, I subscribed and gave a thumbs up will see how your future videos go.
What a cool place!
If you haven't already you need to read "Where the Old West Stayed Young" by John Burroughs. I read a copy of it years ago that was owned by Burroughs grandson who is a friend of mine. It tells the story of Brown's Park and NW Colorado. You can't write a better western saga. I live near Brown's Park and have been there many times. You can also visit the Ann Bassett cabin near the museum in Dinosaur National Monument. An interesting note that I have read in a couple of places is that Ann stated that she had been visited by Butch Cassidy at least once after he had supposedly been killed in South America. Don't know if it's true or not but it sure is intriguing.
I have the book and reference it every time I make a video. Burroughs is the best source on the subject in my opinion. Thanks for sharing.
Wild times for sure, if you got put on the list, you were in trouble 😢
Tom Horn wrote a book called "Tom Horn Government Scout & Interpreter". After he was hanged, his friend rancher John Coble had his manuscript published along with some letters from Horn, Coble & Glendolyn Kimmel a school teacher & admirer of Horn. Horn wrote the manuscript while in prison awaiting his execution. Horn was also a braider, when I worked at the Tom Sun Ranch in Wyoming, I saw a bridle "documented to have been braided by Tom Horn"; it was in a glass display case in a museum at the ranch. The museum was a collection of Tom Sun's memorabilia. The ranch was sold to the LDS Church in 1997 I think it was , & they maintain the museum & a visitors center there presenting information about the Oregon Trail & Church History. There are not as many items in the museum now as there were when I worked there. I think the Sun family must have removed some of the items & apparently made an arrangement with the visitors center to maintain & display the rest, such as a rifle given to Tom Sun by Buffalo Bill & the afore mentioned bridle braided by Tom Horn, & many other interesting items.
That is very interesting. Thank you for the information. I will have to look for that book.
First time viewer here, found the ruins on google earth near the Brown's Park Church and followed you and your boys around. The big logs and likely the rest of the wood was harvested 'on the spot' as the only place to build a ranch was where there was material to build with. Old photos of the Colorado foothills and near mining camps show the hills completely denuded, as every 'piece of wood' was on a first come, 'first get it' basis. Tom Horn's book is an interesting read, he is buried near the center of the south border of the Columbia Cemetery in Boulder CO... I came to Colorado in 1950 and have never been through Brown's Park, although near it on several occasions, so I really enjoyed the video and history lesson. Thumbs up and subscribed.
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Your dogs sure investigate things right with you.
Read the book " Where the Old West Stayed young " and you'll understand a lot more about this area !
Hunted and fished in that area growing up in Craig.
Fantastic film
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Amazing huge stout buildings. Quite a spread there…..I might have missed it….was that all one ranch ? Thanks, great video. 👍🤠
Yes it was the head quarter for 2Bar ranch
My 3rd cousins, the Hoys 5 brothers and a sister, had ranches at the time also. Valentine was shot and killed while pursuing the murders of a young ranch hand. They named Hoy mountain after him. Hoys marsh is still there on the north side of the green river. They raced horses on a hoy ranch, it was an old Ute race track, Butch Casady raced there, while he was still a wrangler. Louie la more, used Mexican Joe in the book, Ride the Dark Trail, which was associated with a real incident with Valentine. Mexican Joe was the leader of a gang, he’d pull his knife from behind his head and hone, just before he’d strike. Valentine pulled a boot knife and would have killed him if not for fact of his arm deflected by the gang. Cut Mexican Joe across the butt cheek so bad that he couldn’t sit for 3 weeks. James Hoy, journaled their time there, his manuscript was published by Colorado A&M college1952 . I’d like to have a copy.
@@rdhoy very interesting. Thanks for the feedback. The history of Browns Park fascinates me.
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The building partially underground and built with really substantial logs was meant to keep bears out of the food. A grizzly could have made "mince meat"of any other building there. Didn't get to see how, or if the door was really built up.
The other structure you said had wood shaped with an axe could have also been shaped by an adze.
I consider finding your site quite lucky because of the history, and getting to see what was built there!
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Two doors on the building? Must’ve been men’s and women’s bathrooms! Just kidding. Maybe separate living quarters? Anyway, great video and history lesson….
Thank you.
To survive folks without consciences you have to give them a taste of their own medicine. Amongst outlaws there's always one or more psychotic criminals. As the outlaw line of work attracts criminals as well as outlaws. Both in the past and modern times.
Also I was raised up with a double hole outhouse. It's because of multiple people will fill up the hole pretty quick. Straw and grasses was used to cover the mess to get it to compost. So the hole would fill up. Then it would be closed and we'd use the other hole until it filled. Closing that one up and opening the other. By that time it was all broken down. It's for when there's a large family. The pit was done in a bell shape and was 6 feet deep on our farm.
Tom Horn was a stock detective. A private cop for ranchers. They paid him to stop the rustling. Cattle rustling came with a death penalty in those days. Legend has it he found out too much and was framed for that boy's murder.
You're way off on the reason for a two holer outhouse. The building with the odd doors would've been grain storage. Two doors in that other building would've been for ventilation in the summer as windows were expensive and hard to come by out there.
So who owns it now?
Browns Park Wildlife Refuge owns it now. Good information. Thank you.
The reason there were two poopers is because you could save twice the amount of poop! Peeing didn’t matter because they peed somewhere else.
Is that near Maybell Co?
It is about 40 miles north of Maybell.
Great big game hunting area..?
Absolutely. Elk,Mule deer, Black bear,Big horn sheep, Mountain lion. It’s all there.
the music over your voice is distracting from the story
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SIR I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE DOGS 🐕 🤣 IS THE ONE DOG YOU GOT A MALI ??
No. He is a mutt. A lovable mutt.
Lose the music.
Do some research on how and why people built their buildings the way they did.
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Our ancestors were not confronted by homosexuality like we are today. Homosexuality was punishable by death or at least a severe beating. Were our ancestors more morally Christian in their practices than current people are? I think so! There were fewer of them and their rearing taught right from wrong! One rotten apple can and does spread to the whole at large. Vigilante justice was quick and final and each man bore the consequences for his own actions for the rest of his life and his children afterward.