Also folks, check out the discounts currently available on my site (approx 35 videos - up to 70% OFF). Link in vid description. Lots of theories given for the shadowban in the comments here , but none of them are individually plausible as reasons. Eg, a certain famous dictator of which I showed a clip lasting maybe 10 seconds ... a full speech of his elsewhere on YT has 73 million views. Same goes for all the keyword theories and violent scene theories - there are more intense, unbanned examples aplenty. But even if they were a problem, YT could just age restrict or outright block (with notification) for breaking the YT rules. No need to be covert and pretend the ban wasn't in place. If it's an algo-generated block then I think it's because of a selection of slightly triggering keywords, but the algo wasn't sophisticated enough to make sense of how those words fitted into the full video (AI's don't understand a thing, they're just programs). Equally it could be a paranoid moderator, given the stronger censorship phase all platforms were in back in 2021. Alternately, it could have been some military PR influence over YT to block content that questions boot camp, but I have no proof of that either and there are other vids that cover the subject too. As long as this reupload isn't subjected to the same treatment, the previous ban isn't that important. Thanks everyone :)
I've encountered this on UA-cam with several other videos. Even typing in the name of the channel and video title verbatim they will not appear in the search. EDIT: Not to defend Google because I hate them as a company passionatly because of their censorship agenda. But it could be this video is shadow banned because of mentioning the subject of Leonard's Suicide in the video. Maybe they will miss it this time with it being deeper in the video. If it gets shadow banned again, I suggest trying to remove the suicide bit then reupload it a third time and see what happens. Maybe just say "We all know what happened to Leonard".
@ most of the boot camp dialogue is word for word in the book. Also the most poignant moment in the story was cut from the film - after Pyle shoots gunny the dying drill sergeant tells Pyle “I’m proud of you….”
When your anti-war film becomes a recruiting tool for the Marines and R. Lee Ermey is signing autographs from Marines who were inspired to join by his performance right up until he dies
Don't forget the point based in the vid every the elite are foot soilders them self so remembering that it's basically a spell with in a spell with in a spell
many youtubers, have reported this kind of stuff happening. this seems to be happening "only" for a few days, but it still significantly impacts the performance/visibility of the video. also there is, to my knowledge, no pattern to it. i wouldn't put it past google to shadow-censor content, but I think for now this looks more like some very weird bug. but it is strange that the video wasn't/isn't even searchable. this could be a different problem. the other affected channels didn't mention it
Former Marine here. I did bootcamp in 1995. The experience was almost identical to what is shown in FMJ. The overweight guys lost weight and the skinny guys gained weight. The slowest person got most of the yelling at. We were pitted against each other to be squad leaders. Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer allowed to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer allowed to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that. Anyone that was smart or aware soon found that the best way to go through training was to not be noticed. Don't get caught in the front or in the rear of the pack. In hindsight I see that the best thing that protected me from the brainwashing was being raised with lots of freedom as a kid. The recruits that responded the best to the brainwashing came from rural religious backgrounds OR were former gang members from the inner city. The drill instructor training consists of the instructor trainees taking turns yelling at each other. They learn and memorize the most degrading and funniest cutdowns I have ever heard. Several times I was caught laughing and made to "PUSH!" but proudly they never broke me. The punishment would go on so long, with me being unable to stop laughing, that eventually they would have to just let me go get back in line, because in the strictly scheduled time constraints of training, they can only single someone out for so long. Also, I was doing well in all of the skills and tests. A couple of times a few instructors even broke character and gave me a little "wink" as if to say, "I know that you know this is an act!" I like to think that it was an acknowledgement that their brainwashing was not working on me, but that I was otherwise accepted for doing a good job and playing along. This "special" treatment continued throughout my service at all of my duty stations. I am lucky I was never sent to combat (Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia) while I was in.
>not allowed to curse at you after 1995 I can assure you they did that and then some, they just couldn't do it when the officers were around. I've been called some very 'interesting' things. And they could in fact put you on the quarterdeck. Everything you've said about boot camp after you went through was highly inaccurate.
@@elijahherstal776 Yes! the digs they came up with were very interesting. Could not keep a straight face most of the time. I only said what they were supposed to be doing. Of course they didn't always follow it. But, as usual online, people are quick to try and one up everyone.
@@chriswyattscott let's put it this way: The worst thing about UA-cam comments is that we can't share those digs. Because they're absolutely *gold* but they'd get any comments nuked.
@@elijahherstal776 Just to clarify. This is all I said about the time after I went through bootcamp. : Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer aloud to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer aloud to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that. So, in both examples I say that they did not follow the instructions that came from the top. (Which you AGREE that they were not able to say these things in front of officers. Meaning: It was NOT aloud.) That's why I find it strange that you called my comments: "highly inaccurate". I feel like you read the part you didn't agree with and left out the rest. And what else are you saying? That you wish on UA-cam you could use the derogatory and horrible remarks that drill instructors used on recruits? Seems like that is what you are saying. Be peace.
Just wanted to tell you I hugely appreciate your videos. Yours is one of the only media analysis channels that truly dedicates itself to the earnest inspection of movies without somekind of annoying agenda behind it all or using the format it as thinly veiled soapbox-rugpull that quickly derails the central topics of the subject. I hugely appreciate your efforts, despite YT not being the best platform to broadcast your views.
As someone who served in the military, I can say this movie is is great at showing how the military is quite blunt when they say: You belong to us now and you will do what we tell you to do.
One of the terms for the brainwashing via the shock of boot camp is "resocialization." Rob breaks down the process specific to the film and gives some examples outside it, but recognizing the techniques is the most important thing because you soon see how unrelated institutions employ the same techniques in their own context. One is that you lose your clothes. You actually spend some time naked while all your superiors are clothed. This is especially true during the medical phase of boot camp (i.e., physicals, x-rays for identification of your body later, immunizations, etc.), but it is also on-going via group showers and bathrooms with no stalls. This humiliation component can be found in prisons, fraternity hazing, and even some religious cults. Next the clothing is replaced with a uniform, so identity is lost. This is often paired with a shaved head so that no identifiers remain that wasn't part of the individual's body. Again, you see this in prisons and football camp, all of which also result in a uniform issued by the group. Priests, monks, nuns, etc. similarly get a uniform, are required to cut their hair or style it a certain way (e.g., most orders of nuns required cutting it short even though they wore a habit over it, meaning that enforcing the haircut was more about demonstrating compliance and leaving a literal part of their old self behind than the actual appearance). Upon entering boot camp, the soldiers often lose their first name. They acquire a nickname from their drill sergeant or peers, are called by their last name (which is all that appears on their uniform), and/or are identified by their service number (Note: Service numbers have since been discontinued in the US, but they were in use until 1969; Full Metal Jacket is set in '67-'68). Prisoners are similarly tracked/identified inside the system by a number. Professional athletes similarly have uniforms with last name much smaller than their number. (Note that a number is sometimes "retired" when it becomes synonymous with a famous name... because then it is no longer an anonymous number.) Religions and other cults often have members chose a new name at a milestone (e.g., when completing a round of vows). It's not just a new name though. Before tattoos gained mainstream popularity during the '90s, they were primarily seen only on men, and even then they were only found on military veterans and biker gangs. (Maybe the occasional rock musician, but less often than you might think. I was surprised when I watch a punk video from the mid-'80s a while ago, and there were no tats to be seen.) Tattoos were part of the culture and even a ritual. Some cults have done similar with branding (e.g., the NXIVM cult a few years ago). Recruits don't bring any possessions in with them. Just like prison, you only get what they issue to you, and dress codes prevent them from customizing those possessions. (I thought the video would mention what Joker wrote on his helmet, highlighting his iconoclastic tendencies.) The film "Fight Club" parodies the tradition that novice monks are required to wait outside the temple for three days and bring three changes of clothing. Some religions and other cults require a vow of poverty, minimizing identity and optimizing focus on the organization. Note how the corporate world can't take employee's possessions retroactively, but companies exploit workers by making them demonstrate devotion, especially in "desirable" cult-like companies, via unpaid internships. The intense schedule and exercise keeps the soldiers docile because they are literally too exhausted to challenge orders, thereby making compliance the easiest path. If this is sustained over weeks (Boot camp is about 8 to 13 weeks, depending on the branch), then that becomes the only existence the soldier knows, and he will always wait for orders rather than taking the initiative, which would likely be self-preservation. Religions and other cults also have parallel techniques such as taking a vow of silence early on so that questions cannot be asked precisely when the individual is most likely to be asking them. There are additional components such as fasting or prolonged meditation or other isolation. Even medical schools engage in their own form of mental torture, requiring interns to work 24-hour shifts, only sleeping between emergencies, if at all, even though this obviously puts patients at risk via mistakes made by sleep-deprived personnel. Yet, the practice continues because the older physicians refuse to allow the next generation to have an easier path than they had. (I'm paraphrasing actual quotes by the established drs.) The video mentions repetitions of slogans and chants, but there is also an enormous amount of jargon. In some cases it is simply and needlessly replacing familiar terms with the group-speak (e.g., "head" where "toilet" already communicates things unambiguously). Military terminology is often so unwieldy that they resort to acronyms (AWOL, ICBM), which then sometimes become words unto themselves, which then leads to slang emerging from a culture of acronyms (e.g., FUBAR, SNAFU, etc.). Learning the new language means the recruit is in a new context where there are new rules of cause and effect. In some cases the jargon can help obscure contradictions or concepts that might otherwise be questioned, but putting a new name on it means it is something novel. In many cases the jargon is helpful because it makes distinctions that are only relevant if you're in that field, but a side-effect of this that how merely learning it establishes in-group/out-group dynamics that makes recruits feel somehow "special" because they can understand what others cannot. (Lexicographer Susie Dent has a book about occupation-specific jargon. Many of her examples are very funny.) If there's an established way of doing things or traditions that must be followed, ask yourself who they benefit. There are lots of forms of indoctrination and cult-ish behavior. Know the signs.
Lumping everything together by similarity of "signs" is misleading. Religions existing for thousands of years don't boil down to brainwashing. Only small cults do. What matters is whether the techniques used by the organization take away your prior values from you, or enhance them. Proper asceticism uses a lot of the things you described, and they are there to teach the person to let go things in general, because clinging to them is unhealthy. But after letting go of those weird dependencies, one's mind clarifies a lot, and one may rediscover value in things those dependencies obstructed for years. Fulfillment from productive self-work is what matters, and it then drives people forward. If the cult takes away your beliefs and values and replaces them with nonsense that fears criticism, sure it's brainwashing. But if your questions are answered in a legitimate way, and you keep objectively finding something good for yourself in that endeavor, then it's probably a useful lesson to learn, even if the practices look too strict from the POV of modern comfort. Their point is taking away some of your external comfort to let you develop internal comfort that defeats pessimism.
Military jargon is also sanitized when it comes to killing humans. You’re ”removing” or ”eliminating” or ”terminating with extreme prejudice”. You’re doing this to a ”target” or ”living resources of the enemy”. Whatever it takes for you to not think.
"Here Joker engages in a private chat with Cowboy. And note that he looks around first to see whether anyone else is listening before he dares speak." This scene reminds me of the 2001 scene where Dave Bowman and Frank Poole meet up in a C-pod to try to have a conversation out of earshot of HAL.
While in the Army and you'll never hear this in the media because it's agaisnt federal law. More soldiers were ",ending" themselves way more than in combat. Not veterans. Active soldiers.
The year this movie was released, my fellow football players started using the marine's chants in our drills. As a 16-year-old, I knew they had missed the point.
VERY serious implications here. The post military suicide rate here in the US is excessive. How much does this actually have to do with disconnecting from the military family, club, cult etc? You are given a new identity in the military to ensure that you can function socially within the ranks. You then spend anywhere from three to twenty years in service. Eventually you come out on the other side without much re-integration into civilian society. I imagine it’s a reason why there are so many veteran groups and clubs. Without that military connection, you can feel lost at sea and very isolated. But that’s the price individuals and society has to pay for defense and social stability…. I guess.
@Joe-sg9ll You need to update your internal hardware, then. I would suggest searching: "Exercises in reason" either on Google or here on UA-cam, try to find a basic tutorial, and then begin training your mind from there.
What is our military defending against? They miserably failed the one time there was an attack in progress. How would we not have social stability without it? You've committed your life to something and while that takes a level of courage ill never understand, that courage is misplaced. The military solely exists to do the bidding of the banks and establishment. Acknowledging that something you committed your life to is depressing but facts are facts they serve no real purpose other than to be wall streets witch
Really? Because I don't feel like I was given a new identity. I new ID card, yeah. But man, that picture was awful. The re-integration into civilian society is caused by a lot of things, but you know what military vets hate? When civilians talk about us like we're mindless animals. The way you just did. Like you're better than us. I've seen civilians crumple and fold the moment you lose one of your creature comforts. Hell, there's a reason I call 'the recent sickness' the ultimate workplace filter- when half of the civilians in an office refuse to come into a workplace because "I can do this from home" (and their performance is demonstrably degraded), and I'm pleased to be able to get out of my house... I love how it makes those non-veterans seethe when the 'dumb veteran' is getting a raise and a better position.
I had some doubts about FMJ when it was originally released back in 1987 - summer of 87. I thought (back then) that the first part was absolutely brilliant but the second half was boring and anticlimatic. Man, I was dead wrong... FMJ is indeed a masterpiece.
What I like about FMJ is that the first part works as it's own movie, then the 2nd half let's us see how the characters handle 'Nam but with way less of the sentiment and pretense that are standard for the genre. And both halves culminate in wrenching scenes after good build-ups, as opposed to the entire movie being melodramatic and turgid.
I hear this sort of comment often, and I wonder about it. I mainly use UA-cam from my subscriptions page and pay little attention to the feed. One result of doing this is that new videos from subscribed channels are not missed. I'm really not sure how else one could use UA-cam.
@@collativelearning It would have been more accurate had I said a year. I had covid and pneumonia this year and my perception of time is a little skewed.
You may find this interesting..I served in the British Parachute Regiment. Joined in the mid 90s. I went through a major brainwashing and indoctrination process. Throughout my time FMJ was an incredibly popular movie amongst the men. We knew every scene word for word and celebrated the movie and I guess not for the reasons the director intended. I would say some guys amongst the younger didnt truly understand the message the film was relaying. I joined with the knowledge that I would go through such a process and never let it truly take over my soul and mind. Once I left after 10 years service. I was able to put it behind me and move on..The conditioning never truly leaves you though but this is fine if you use it for positive things. Great channel.
Yeah, service men do seem to universally love this film. It's an interesting aspect of Kubrick. With 2001: A Space Odyssey he made a movie still adored by pro-technocracy intellectuals, but a more careful study fo the film reveals it has the opposite message.
@@collativelearning Kubrick does a move out of the Russian playbook where he strives for the most naturalist and realistic presentation but puts what feels like a homeopathic dose of authorial intent behind every scene that makes a work of art that feels like nature itself has made it, but it in fact has authorial spirit striking through it, reaching into hearts and minds through centuries.
Well, it’s four days after upload, and I’ve gotten this video on my recommendation page, as I think I may have watched another one of your videos, but not recently, but also I’m not subscribed to you. So I think this video is out of the woods now. I’m glad it popped up for me, a fresh point of view for a film I’ve watched several times. Thank you.
Rob, I appreciate you re-releasing this video as I never saw it originally. I'm sure you're also well aware of why the establishment would be against it. You're making those they've experimented on too aware of themselves and the last thing they want is their robots becoming too aware of themselves and exercising independent thought
Except for the fact that us 'robots' seem to be fully capable of thinking independently, and that independent thought is essential to function in the military. But please, 'enlightened civilian', tell me how you're above it.
Not sure if you recall me, I made some disparaging comments about your review of Alien Romulus (it sucked ass, you were right) but I was in high school when full metal jacket came out and me and all of my friends joined the military and we loved this movie, watched it all the time and after I watched your series of videos on this movie, I was completely mind blown. I guess we were too young to understand all of the things Kubrick was trying to show people in this film. Just incredible sir, hats off to you!
I love FMJ, Kubrick might be the best director or all time. Also you can't get people to follow orders and die for their country in a democratic system. It is authoritarian and if you want to win against an enemy that wants to kill you, you can't have everyone questioning every order. I will take a line from another military movie, "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bustard die for his."
The magician performs the trick before entering the stage. This quote comes to mind when I consider the methods used to make us deceive ourselves. We believe there might have been a bad decision at one point for example when the tendency to make the decision was installed at an earlier time.
Frame the brainwashing and call it self improvement... that's like feed me shit and call it chocolate. Also, when you meet soldiers (my only knowledge is from the UK), particularly soldiers that haven't really seen an action in theatre, they do often act quite emotionally immature, like whatever they do is an act to improve their idea of a positive self image in front of others.
I didn't know you met my brother 😂. He was in the UK military for 3 years and never saw active service. He was Exactly as you describe. Coincidentally he actually did his basic training at Basingbourne Barracks while FMJ was being filmed there.
@@Rachel_M_ haha, excellent. You know what I mean though - you can be in a pub having a pint with them and it might just be the two of you but you can still feel them consciously trying to project and image.
As opposed to what, the 18-24 year old college students? Because it's the same age bracket. I'm not trying to be rude, but your anecdotal example is valid... anecdotally. I can tell you that I've seen civilians that look down their nose at veterans like me, yet the moment one of their creature comforts is taken away- they crumple and fold, cry and whinge. I've seen them lose their spine at the mere sight of a potential confrontation or retreat whenever everyday normal life calls for you to step up and show some integrity or courage. Is that universal? Absolutely not. I can tell you I've also met plenty of civilians that I'd have been glad to have in times of conflict, more so than some of the Marines I got stuck with.
@@elijahherstal776mate it’s just regurgitated boomer ideas, the looking down of a class of people which was made popular by media they consumed through pop culture. The hippie movement and its various forms in the following decades which encapsulated much of modern pop culture in the west. Military members are just seen as another class of dumb, squares, losers, etc. who have committed the cardinal sin of forsaking “individualism”, compared to the “free” yuppies who went to college on their parents dime and where they were taught the core tenets of hedonism & materialism. Look at the comments, see how many of these people are telling a similar story on how free and independent they were, how everyone else of whatever group they look down on just weren’t as heckin’ smart, witty, intelligent, as they were. They are all the main characters in the same movie lol
@@collativelearning it's the Hit ler clip. If this upload is de-indexed again, you can try muting that section and see how it goes. They probably have automatic classifiers for those speeches, heh. Bigger channels can get away with that type of clip after manual intervention (sometimes), I suppose.
Sunflower is probably correct. The algorithm is not a person it is a robot. You triggered something within algorithm. Not one thing probably but a few that produced bingo! effect. Maybe even showing war is not something youtube likes. And youtube deffenetly doesn't like anti brainwashing videos:)))
@@CatSchrodingers i'm not sure I agree. It's quite well known that there are huge numbers of PR employees who trawl over social media, esp content creators with large followings, looking for stuff they think they need to block.
It's no wonder UA-cam would crack down on a video analyzing and detailing the mechanisms of *this subject.* It is the right hand of corporate globalism (among other things). Its chief stockholders are invested in washing.
This showed up in my feed as a recommendation. So as of now I think no manipulation has occurred. Thank you for your film analysis, on this and other films.
This showed up for me as a recommendation too. This is the first of your videos I have watched and my first time encountering your channel. I'm glad it was recommended to me!
I tried to full metal jacket myself into being a hard working military guy. I simply couldn't do it. I'll die or go insane before i can be a happy worker drone
I was married to a marine and lived on several marine bases and i saw men get broken and others built up. My ex he was one of the broken and unfortunately he still is. I loved this film and Kubrick is my very favorite director ever. I did an esaay on his work in film class and i appreciate this video and discussion it prompts. Great work 🙏💕✨
As much as I hate giving the government extra powers. Google has to be made to disclose their bias against certain creators and their content as well as their reasons for that bias.
Nope I think the government needs to put the hammer down and force google and facebook to abide by the first amendment. Even though Google and facebook are private companies, restricting speech on these platforms is tantamount to restricting free speech, and the executives of these companies can control what gets disseminated into the public. The new policy should be you are allowed to say whatever the hell you want and still get monetized.
@@tag6502 The Constitution doesn't give you the right to deliberately spread lies. "Freedom of Speech" doesn't mean what you've been told to think it means.
@@F_ckAllTrumpVoters Your username is something of a bias giveaway there. Both your party and that of your oppponents spread lots of "info" that the other claims are "lies". But no one can be given a monopoly on what is deemed truth or lie. because no one is perfect enough or honest enought to wield that power. That's why freedom of speech is important. If you have to silence your oppostion then you're more or less admitting you can't debate them effectively in an open arena of ideas.
Rob have you ever spoken to Mark Devlin? He’s an Oxford born guy that I think you should have a chat with. He’s a former hip-hop DJ/music journalist and researcher and talks about how we are systematically brainwashed via the music industry, including movies. I think you might find him interesting.
I suspect it has something to do with a scummy attempt at prioritizing big movie analysis channels that offer lame videos that get millions of views, they don’t want everyone moving to higher quality independent film analysis channels
Kube also included birth motifs in his movies: Squirt's (Vivian), Frank's, HAL''s, and the Star Child in 2001 and Jesus' in FMJ. Even Helena's was referred to in EWS, because her age was mentioned, plus robot David in AI. Bathrooms, birth, brain washing, and dehumanization - all themes in his movies!
Even Brian's in Barry Lyndon as it gave him a Lordship by proxy. Brian's death was the death of his dreams. I think that was the real reason he gave Lord Bullingdon an out in the final duel. His dreams were over as he had nothing more for which to live as Lady Lyndon would never give him another child due to his ill treatment of her.
Death - an other Kube theme. The Killing, Paths of Glory, Spartacus, Lolita (she died in childbirth), 2001 (enemy ape-men, Pool and scientists), A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, The Shining, FMJ, EWS, and AI. Even the never completed LotR (w/ The Beatles), Napoleon and Aryan Papers.
Interesting analysis. Hal Ashby’s ‘The Last Detail’ also has very blatant references to militarized brainwashing and cultish activity. Also, another rather obvious reference to big government is Hartman’s famous point and shout into the camera, exactly like Uncle Sam.
Ad a former Marine I think Vietnam era up to before Gulf War era boot camp is a joke. It consisted of mostly drill and dormitory style hazing and shockingly little marksmanship or infantry training. The theatrics displayed by Gunny Hartman dont really have tactical benefit. So much time is wasted on dramatics to give pogues the false impression that they have been well trained.
My first two months in Army basic training wasn’t too bad. But eventually the conditioning broke my will and it became very difficult. Became painfully homesick. Didn’t think I would make a career out of it but somehow I did. But that indoctrination peril is very rough for most people.
I love and appreciate how you convinced me to watch this video right away by stating at the beginning that it would be one of the best and most important videos you’ve ever created.
Because of the preamble, I want to let you know that it says that the video was uploaded 6 days ago at the time of writing this, and the video showed up on my suggested videos. That's good news
Excellent video! Loving your objective style. I did happen to have the video playing at the worst possible moment (our German friend) when people walked in the room lol
Hey man, loved your video analysis on the Shinning by Kubrick. ¿Will you ever analyze the film Joker 2 and why it failed with its core audience? Thanks again for your great analysis.
@OfAngels444 Agreed but I would like to know his insight on the film's core message. Of course it depends if he considers making a video about this topic as "worth" for his channel.
Truly worth waiting for this one. Fantastic! My great thanks for this thoughtful discussion. I love your Kubrick work, and this was on yet another level. Thanks!
wow.. I just discovered this video! LOL I had not seen a Collative Learning notification in a while and was wondering where Rob was, so I came directly here and what do you know...
If this re-upload is identical to the original I think I know where the problem lies, of course I'm just guessing: the private committing sudoku (at 6:14 in this video).
I don’t think this video is shadow banned anymore! It popped in my feed and I assume it’s because I search for Kubrick videos regularly! Great video as usual and I’m glad it’s now more regularly available!!!
Kubrick's anti brainwashing masterpiece is still really Eyes Wide Shut. If anybody wants the beginning steps of understanding who exactly is "guiding" us, Look towards that film.
The cult in EWS isn't real, it's a hybrid representation of many secret societies, but the film also shows how conspiracy thinking can be taken too far. I mean the orgy is basically a dream sequence lol. Imo a lot of conspiracies are put out by the intel to scare people into silence and it works on a lot of people who consider themselves clued up.
@@collativelearningOh absolutely. Especially in the modern age where the internet has become a great tool for creating and spreading narratives to the masses. I've seen examples of that all over the place. Ppl claiming that this group over here runs everything or that group over there is behind it all. I've always believed the alphabet agencies are the ones pushing most of these narratives out there to funnel ppl down certain holes. It's why some end up so radicalized. Not everyone is capable of independent thought and analysis
Aw, I remember watching this video. I downloaded this and watched it last year. This is such a great video that showcases your psychology experience and how you brilliantly dissect propaganda and brainwashing. Another classic from you Sir Rob.
your videos are very interesting but would it be possible to have oppoortunity to activate subtitles?I am not mother tongue English and sometimes i do not catch some words/sentences.thx in advance.
18:25 I used to think military setvice served the ritualistic aspect of archaic societies Joseph cambell said was mostly missing in modern societies. To say it regresses the mind of men makes me wonder if I'm simply wrong, or it's specific to my country (Israel). In the context of cubrik, I've definitely seen it happen.
19:43 - "But these twists of logic are thrown at the recruits so quickly that they barely have a moment to question it". That right there is the root of the methodology. Keep them off balance at all times, it breaks them quicker.
47:27 If you watch his speeches with subtitles, so you can actually understand what he says, it makes a lot of sense, which explains why a lot of people are noticing and sympathizing with him lately.
I think theres something to be said about religious brainwashing and how upset Hartman is that Joker doesn't follow in line with religion. But respects him for standing his ground .
5:07 He had a Brain Tumor though, and it was found that that was responsible for his spree. Interesting fact: Tobe Hooper, co-creator and writer, and director of the Texas Chain Saw Massacre was in that courtyard during the shootings.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Of course. All psychopaths have multiple contributing factors to why they kill. Some factors are bigger than others. Lots of people with big brain tumors don't kill, probably very rare actually. Gotta take that into account. Apparently tons of people have various brain tumours and don't even know it.
Rob would love to see you do a profile of the character 'Bunny' from the movie Platoon, because i've always stuggled to decide if he was a 'psychopath' who chose evil doings, or simply an unintelligent uncaring person who is blind to right and wrong. Would love to know your thoughts on him!
Former Air Force here (i know...i know). It was hilarious how different the TIs acted when the officers were present as opposed to when they werent. Also, my TIs were the ones that went to prison after the uh...Lackland scandal a few years ago. That was quite a mind job. I was junior enlisted when they all got busted.
My dad was a combat veteran (was in the Israeli Defense Force and was in combat for a skirmish called the "Yon Kippur War") And he got this movie through and through.
Kubrick himself wasn't a combat veteran. He wasn't even military trained. So why would you hold his movie up as being representative of the the combat veteran experience?
I don't think I've ever been to this channel before and I somehow save this video to my watch later playlist so it must have popped up into one of the recommended videos somewhere I didn't get here from a direct link from a direct link so that's good news
Absolutely fascinating analysis, as always, by you Rob. It gave me a whole new insight into Kubriks work. That’s all I can ask for: entertaining education and widening my horizon of understanding 😊
that's so sinister to not only shadow ban a video, but hide it from the uploader. imagine working at google or youtube and being explained how this works and then doing it. This is basically the public square now, what kind of person would be ok with that?
This is off topic, but do you have a list anywhere of every single time a movie/piece of media uses the "Also sprach Zarathustra" music from 2001 a space odyssey? Or can you please tell off the top of your head? The only reason is because I heard it in a cartoon recently and it I wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't for your videos. It played just a few notes, it was quite concealed.
Thanks for the reply. I think I remember watching a video of yours where you show a few examples of this, but I don't know which video it was now. The cartoon I heard it in was dragon ball super (DBS), a poor sequel to the popular 90's kids show dragon ball z (DBZ). In DBS, the very first idea which is pushed is the idea that the beloved main character from the old show (DBZ) has the potential to ascend to being a god/divine being, instead of just an alien resembling a human (that's what he was always before this). And the moment the transformation takes place, just around three notes of "Also sprach Zarathustra", then it instantly switches to a different soundtrack. This sparked a curiosity in me to look up all the examples of this to connect the dots, from what I remember it's always been about 'ascending' somehow I guess? But then this cartoon made me think, are they pushing the idea of making us think we have the potential to be gods? If you could kindly point me to the direction of the video which I mentioned first if you know it, I'd really appreciate it, and also if you remember any of the examples you mentioned please if you can put them in your reply please. This is purely because of curiosity I'm not going to make a video or anything, in fact I hope you make one again about this lol.
The Capsule Corp ship and Saiyan pods are direct ripoffs of two 2001 ships. Zarathustra is a widely used, popular piece in many disciplines. For example, I always get a kick out of hearing it for the opening of the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
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Lots of theories given for the shadowban in the comments here , but none of them are individually plausible as reasons. Eg, a certain famous dictator of which I showed a clip lasting maybe 10 seconds ... a full speech of his elsewhere on YT has 73 million views. Same goes for all the keyword theories and violent scene theories - there are more intense, unbanned examples aplenty. But even if they were a problem, YT could just age restrict or outright block (with notification) for breaking the YT rules. No need to be covert and pretend the ban wasn't in place. If it's an algo-generated block then I think it's because of a selection of slightly triggering keywords, but the algo wasn't sophisticated enough to make sense of how those words fitted into the full video (AI's don't understand a thing, they're just programs). Equally it could be a paranoid moderator, given the stronger censorship phase all platforms were in back in 2021. Alternately, it could have been some military PR influence over YT to block content that questions boot camp, but I have no proof of that either and there are other vids that cover the subject too.
As long as this reupload isn't subjected to the same treatment, the previous ban isn't that important.
Thanks everyone :)
When Dune (2020s version) Gaza israel comparisons?
I've encountered this on UA-cam with several other videos. Even typing in the name of the channel and video title verbatim they will not appear in the search.
EDIT: Not to defend Google because I hate them as a company passionatly because of their censorship agenda. But it could be this video is shadow banned because of mentioning the subject of Leonard's Suicide in the video. Maybe they will miss it this time with it being deeper in the video. If it gets shadow banned again, I suggest trying to remove the suicide bit then reupload it a third time and see what happens. Maybe just say "We all know what happened to Leonard".
Have you read “The Short-Timers”?
@@DHeav60 Yes
@ most of the boot camp dialogue is word for word in the book. Also the most poignant moment in the story was cut from the film - after Pyle shoots gunny the dying drill sergeant tells Pyle “I’m proud of you….”
When your anti-war film becomes a recruiting tool for the Marines and R. Lee Ermey is signing autographs from Marines who were inspired to join by his performance right up until he dies
Get as far away from the military as you can don't be a tool for the elite
Don't forget the point based in the vid every the elite are foot soilders them self so remembering that it's basically a spell with in a spell with in a spell
@xtrwombat4876 As a veteran, especially the way things are in the world now, I agree.
Met the man at a shooting competition, he did a version of the whole drill sergeant introduction from the movie but without swearing (somehow)
Unfortunately it's necessary to have an army in any society. And more unfortunate is that we need smart and capable people there.
I think you've beat the algorithm today my friend. I've never seen you before and this video just landed in my recommended box!
ALWAYS good to see a new upload from THE Rob Ager. Its a shame that youtube desperately wants to stymie informative content.
It doesn't. We're human. UA-cam AI. Af
many youtubers, have reported this kind of stuff happening. this seems to be happening "only" for a few days, but it still significantly impacts the performance/visibility of the video. also there is, to my knowledge, no pattern to it. i wouldn't put it past google to shadow-censor content, but I think for now this looks more like some very weird bug.
but it is strange that the video wasn't/isn't even searchable. this could be a different problem. the other affected channels didn't mention it
youtubers have been complaining about this stuff for years
Google is also mass deleting users' legitimate comments, even when they break no rules.
Ironically Google just deleted my comment 🙄
Former Marine here. I did bootcamp in 1995. The experience was almost identical to what is shown in FMJ. The overweight guys lost weight and the skinny guys gained weight. The slowest person got most of the yelling at. We were pitted against each other to be squad leaders. Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer allowed to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer allowed to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that. Anyone that was smart or aware soon found that the best way to go through training was to not be noticed. Don't get caught in the front or in the rear of the pack. In hindsight I see that the best thing that protected me from the brainwashing was being raised with lots of freedom as a kid. The recruits that responded the best to the brainwashing came from rural religious backgrounds OR were former gang members from the inner city. The drill instructor training consists of the instructor trainees taking turns yelling at each other. They learn and memorize the most degrading and funniest cutdowns I have ever heard. Several times I was caught laughing and made to "PUSH!" but proudly they never broke me. The punishment would go on so long, with me being unable to stop laughing, that eventually they would have to just let me go get back in line, because in the strictly scheduled time constraints of training, they can only single someone out for so long. Also, I was doing well in all of the skills and tests. A couple of times a few instructors even broke character and gave me a little "wink" as if to say, "I know that you know this is an act!" I like to think that it was an acknowledgement that their brainwashing was not working on me, but that I was otherwise accepted for doing a good job and playing along. This "special" treatment continued throughout my service at all of my duty stations. I am lucky I was never sent to combat (Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia) while I was in.
>not allowed to curse at you after 1995
I can assure you they did that and then some, they just couldn't do it when the officers were around. I've been called some very 'interesting' things.
And they could in fact put you on the quarterdeck. Everything you've said about boot camp after you went through was highly inaccurate.
@@elijahherstal776 Yes! the digs they came up with were very interesting. Could not keep a straight face most of the time. I only said what they were supposed to be doing. Of course they didn't always follow it. But, as usual online, people are quick to try and one up everyone.
I was not completely immune to brainwashing though, cause I DID sign up!
@@chriswyattscott let's put it this way:
The worst thing about UA-cam comments is that we can't share those digs. Because they're absolutely *gold* but they'd get any comments nuked.
@@elijahherstal776 Just to clarify. This is all I said about the time after I went through bootcamp. :
Soon after I went through, the USMC started to implement a "kinder, gentler" method wherein the drill instructors were no longer aloud to swear at recruits. (so, they started using replacement words: 'freaking' instead of 'f*cking'). And, they were no longer aloud to make you do physical exercises that were not part of "planned training". They found ways around that.
So, in both examples I say that they did not follow the instructions that came from the top. (Which you AGREE that they were not able to say these things in front of officers. Meaning: It was NOT aloud.) That's why I find it strange that you called my comments: "highly inaccurate". I feel like you read the part you didn't agree with and left out the rest.
And what else are you saying? That you wish on UA-cam you could use the derogatory and horrible remarks that drill instructors used on recruits? Seems like that is what you are saying. Be peace.
Awesome to see another post by Rob on a Kubrick movie. No one analyzes Kubrick films quite like Rob. Always top notch.
Love Rob! ...but have you seen 'Eye Scream' about "The Shining' ? A different type of analysis. Not even sure how to classify it.
@chriswyattscott Yep, I'll watch almost any critique of a Kubrick movie.
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I hugely appreciate your efforts, despite YT not being the best platform to broadcast your views.
I can't imagine a "social" media conglomerate having an issue with helping people think clearly....
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Don’t Be Evil.
How could that slogan be from an evil corporation? Immensely powerful and influential but definitely NOT evil.
My favorite Drill Sargeant line was "That pain you're feeling, that's the civilian in you dying."
You never want the civilian in you die, never.
As someone who served in the military, I can say this movie is is great at showing how the military is quite blunt when they say: You belong to us now and you will do what we tell you to do.
Imagine serving the government on purpose.
We need a movie that shows how willing humans are to have their personal individual rights taken away by the government
@@GruntoSkunko I was in the marines and it was a kick ass time. Lolz you really need to stop believing everything you see on TV 🤣
@@GruntoSkunko So, you don't have imagination then.
@@Person0fColor Marines are thugs for Israel and international capitalism. There is not a drop of honor in being a member of the U.S military
One of the terms for the brainwashing via the shock of boot camp is "resocialization." Rob breaks down the process specific to the film and gives some examples outside it, but recognizing the techniques is the most important thing because you soon see how unrelated institutions employ the same techniques in their own context.
One is that you lose your clothes. You actually spend some time naked while all your superiors are clothed. This is especially true during the medical phase of boot camp (i.e., physicals, x-rays for identification of your body later, immunizations, etc.), but it is also on-going via group showers and bathrooms with no stalls. This humiliation component can be found in prisons, fraternity hazing, and even some religious cults. Next the clothing is replaced with a uniform, so identity is lost. This is often paired with a shaved head so that no identifiers remain that wasn't part of the individual's body. Again, you see this in prisons and football camp, all of which also result in a uniform issued by the group. Priests, monks, nuns, etc. similarly get a uniform, are required to cut their hair or style it a certain way (e.g., most orders of nuns required cutting it short even though they wore a habit over it, meaning that enforcing the haircut was more about demonstrating compliance and leaving a literal part of their old self behind than the actual appearance).
Upon entering boot camp, the soldiers often lose their first name. They acquire a nickname from their drill sergeant or peers, are called by their last name (which is all that appears on their uniform), and/or are identified by their service number (Note: Service numbers have since been discontinued in the US, but they were in use until 1969; Full Metal Jacket is set in '67-'68). Prisoners are similarly tracked/identified inside the system by a number. Professional athletes similarly have uniforms with last name much smaller than their number. (Note that a number is sometimes "retired" when it becomes synonymous with a famous name... because then it is no longer an anonymous number.) Religions and other cults often have members chose a new name at a milestone (e.g., when completing a round of vows).
It's not just a new name though. Before tattoos gained mainstream popularity during the '90s, they were primarily seen only on men, and even then they were only found on military veterans and biker gangs. (Maybe the occasional rock musician, but less often than you might think. I was surprised when I watch a punk video from the mid-'80s a while ago, and there were no tats to be seen.) Tattoos were part of the culture and even a ritual. Some cults have done similar with branding (e.g., the NXIVM cult a few years ago).
Recruits don't bring any possessions in with them. Just like prison, you only get what they issue to you, and dress codes prevent them from customizing those possessions. (I thought the video would mention what Joker wrote on his helmet, highlighting his iconoclastic tendencies.) The film "Fight Club" parodies the tradition that novice monks are required to wait outside the temple for three days and bring three changes of clothing. Some religions and other cults require a vow of poverty, minimizing identity and optimizing focus on the organization. Note how the corporate world can't take employee's possessions retroactively, but companies exploit workers by making them demonstrate devotion, especially in "desirable" cult-like companies, via unpaid internships.
The intense schedule and exercise keeps the soldiers docile because they are literally too exhausted to challenge orders, thereby making compliance the easiest path. If this is sustained over weeks (Boot camp is about 8 to 13 weeks, depending on the branch), then that becomes the only existence the soldier knows, and he will always wait for orders rather than taking the initiative, which would likely be self-preservation. Religions and other cults also have parallel techniques such as taking a vow of silence early on so that questions cannot be asked precisely when the individual is most likely to be asking them. There are additional components such as fasting or prolonged meditation or other isolation. Even medical schools engage in their own form of mental torture, requiring interns to work 24-hour shifts, only sleeping between emergencies, if at all, even though this obviously puts patients at risk via mistakes made by sleep-deprived personnel. Yet, the practice continues because the older physicians refuse to allow the next generation to have an easier path than they had. (I'm paraphrasing actual quotes by the established drs.)
The video mentions repetitions of slogans and chants, but there is also an enormous amount of jargon. In some cases it is simply and needlessly replacing familiar terms with the group-speak (e.g., "head" where "toilet" already communicates things unambiguously). Military terminology is often so unwieldy that they resort to acronyms (AWOL, ICBM), which then sometimes become words unto themselves, which then leads to slang emerging from a culture of acronyms (e.g., FUBAR, SNAFU, etc.). Learning the new language means the recruit is in a new context where there are new rules of cause and effect. In some cases the jargon can help obscure contradictions or concepts that might otherwise be questioned, but putting a new name on it means it is something novel. In many cases the jargon is helpful because it makes distinctions that are only relevant if you're in that field, but a side-effect of this that how merely learning it establishes in-group/out-group dynamics that makes recruits feel somehow "special" because they can understand what others cannot. (Lexicographer Susie Dent has a book about occupation-specific jargon. Many of her examples are very funny.)
If there's an established way of doing things or traditions that must be followed, ask yourself who they benefit. There are lots of forms of indoctrination and cult-ish behavior. Know the signs.
The military really is disgusting.
Lumping everything together by similarity of "signs" is misleading. Religions existing for thousands of years don't boil down to brainwashing. Only small cults do. What matters is whether the techniques used by the organization take away your prior values from you, or enhance them. Proper asceticism uses a lot of the things you described, and they are there to teach the person to let go things in general, because clinging to them is unhealthy. But after letting go of those weird dependencies, one's mind clarifies a lot, and one may rediscover value in things those dependencies obstructed for years. Fulfillment from productive self-work is what matters, and it then drives people forward.
If the cult takes away your beliefs and values and replaces them with nonsense that fears criticism, sure it's brainwashing. But if your questions are answered in a legitimate way, and you keep objectively finding something good for yourself in that endeavor, then it's probably a useful lesson to learn, even if the practices look too strict from the POV of modern comfort. Their point is taking away some of your external comfort to let you develop internal comfort that defeats pessimism.
Military jargon is also sanitized when it comes to killing humans. You’re ”removing” or ”eliminating” or ”terminating with extreme prejudice”. You’re doing this to a ”target” or ”living resources of the enemy”.
Whatever it takes for you to not think.
"Here Joker engages in a private chat with Cowboy. And note that he looks around first to see whether anyone else is listening before he dares speak." This scene reminds me of the 2001 scene where Dave Bowman and Frank Poole meet up in a C-pod to try to have a conversation out of earshot of HAL.
While in the Army and you'll never hear this in the media because it's agaisnt federal law. More soldiers were ",ending" themselves way more than in combat. Not veterans. Active soldiers.
I think it's very clear why youtube censored this in 2021.
Please inform I am stupid lol. Because of the AI or Mass media/corporations trying to condition and brainwash us?
The year this movie was released, my fellow football players started using the marine's chants in our drills.
As a 16-year-old, I knew they had missed the point.
Kubric probably could have made full metal jacket about football instead of war, and it would have been just as good.
VERY serious implications here. The post military suicide rate here in the US is excessive. How much does this actually have to do with disconnecting from the military family, club, cult etc?
You are given a new identity in the military to ensure that you can function socially within the ranks. You then spend anywhere from three to twenty years in service. Eventually you come out on the other side without much re-integration into civilian society.
I imagine it’s a reason why there are so many veteran groups and clubs. Without that military connection, you can feel lost at sea and very isolated. But that’s the price individuals and society has to pay for defense and social stability…. I guess.
@@Joe-sg9llA bit of both probably but then we are all a bit broken aren't we.
@Joe-sg9ll Think on it for two seconds and you'll realize the obvious answer. And how dumb that question was.
@Joe-sg9ll You need to update your internal hardware, then. I would suggest searching: "Exercises in reason" either on Google or here on UA-cam, try to find a basic tutorial, and then begin training your mind from there.
What is our military defending against? They miserably failed the one time there was an attack in progress. How would we not have social stability without it? You've committed your life to something and while that takes a level of courage ill never understand, that courage is misplaced. The military solely exists to do the bidding of the banks and establishment. Acknowledging that something you committed your life to is depressing but facts are facts they serve no real purpose other than to be wall streets witch
Really? Because I don't feel like I was given a new identity.
I new ID card, yeah. But man, that picture was awful.
The re-integration into civilian society is caused by a lot of things, but you know what military vets hate?
When civilians talk about us like we're mindless animals.
The way you just did.
Like you're better than us.
I've seen civilians crumple and fold the moment you lose one of your creature comforts.
Hell, there's a reason I call 'the recent sickness' the ultimate workplace filter- when half of the civilians in an office refuse to come into a workplace because "I can do this from home" (and their performance is demonstrably degraded), and I'm pleased to be able to get out of my house... I love how it makes those non-veterans seethe when the 'dumb veteran' is getting a raise and a better position.
I had some doubts about FMJ when it was originally released back in 1987 - summer of 87. I thought (back then) that the first part was absolutely brilliant but the second half was boring and anticlimatic. Man, I was dead wrong... FMJ is indeed a masterpiece.
*or understanding
were u there for the bite of 87?
@disgruntled4627 Cringe
The closing lines of the movie sort of flipped the whole thing for me: "I'm alive, and I'm not afraid."
What I like about FMJ is that the first part works as it's own movie, then the 2nd half let's us see how the characters handle 'Nam but with way less of the sentiment and pretense that are standard for the genre. And both halves culminate in wrenching scenes after good build-ups, as opposed to the entire movie being melodramatic and turgid.
As of an hour after upload, it appeared in my feed. Will report back in after a couple days. Thank you for all you do.
A small price to pay for watching content google hates.
I hear this sort of comment often, and I wonder about it. I mainly use UA-cam from my subscriptions page and pay little attention to the feed. One result of doing this is that new videos from subscribed channels are not missed. I'm really not sure how else one could use UA-cam.
Yours was the first one that showed up in my feed today. Its also the first one that's showed in quite a few months.
Cheers. i met up with a friend yesterday who said he hasn't received a single notification of my uploads for over a year.
@@collativelearning It would have been more accurate had I said a year. I had covid and pneumonia this year and my perception of time is a little skewed.
@@Joe-sg9ll That's part of why I had the intro, so that if it happens again it will draw attention to itself, defeating the point of SHADOWbans.
One helluva of thumbnail, Rob! Hats off to thee!
You may find this interesting..I served in the British Parachute Regiment. Joined in the mid 90s. I went through a major brainwashing and indoctrination process.
Throughout my time FMJ was an incredibly popular movie amongst the men. We knew every scene word for word and celebrated the movie and I guess not for the reasons the director intended. I would say some guys amongst the younger didnt truly understand the message the film was relaying. I joined with the knowledge that I would go through such a process and never let it truly take over my soul and mind. Once I left after 10 years service. I was able to put it behind me and move on..The conditioning never truly leaves you though but this is fine if you use it for positive things. Great channel.
Yeah, service men do seem to universally love this film. It's an interesting aspect of Kubrick. With 2001: A Space Odyssey he made a movie still adored by pro-technocracy intellectuals, but a more careful study fo the film reveals it has the opposite message.
Is it possible to "Brain" wash a para?
lol
@@muzzer0181 hahahaha
What were the good and bad points of your service in the Paras?
@@collativelearning Kubrick does a move out of the Russian playbook where he strives for the most naturalist and realistic presentation but puts what feels like a homeopathic dose of authorial intent behind every scene that makes a work of art that feels like nature itself has made it, but it in fact has authorial spirit striking through it, reaching into hearts and minds through centuries.
Well, it’s four days after upload, and I’ve gotten this video on my recommendation page, as I think I may have watched another one of your videos, but not recently, but also I’m not subscribed to you.
So I think this video is out of the woods now. I’m glad it popped up for me, a fresh point of view for a film I’ve watched several times. Thank you.
Rob, I appreciate you re-releasing this video as I never saw it originally. I'm sure you're also well aware of why the establishment would be against it. You're making those they've experimented on too aware of themselves and the last thing they want is their robots becoming too aware of themselves and exercising independent thought
Except for the fact that us 'robots' seem to be fully capable of thinking independently, and that independent thought is essential to function in the military.
But please, 'enlightened civilian', tell me how you're above it.
UA-cam is getting worse and worse man. Link saved.
And, here you are still using this free platform daily lol nice
@@Rescoase I find myself using it less and less
Everyone pays for wifi or data. How's it free?
I wonder why UA-cam would want to remove a video exposing brainwashing techniques..
@@Rescoase 🤡🤡🤡
Not sure if you recall me, I made some disparaging comments about your review of Alien Romulus (it sucked ass, you were right) but I was in high school when full metal jacket came out and me and all of my friends joined the military and we loved this movie, watched it all the time and after I watched your series of videos on this movie, I was completely mind blown. I guess we were too young to understand all of the things Kubrick was trying to show people in this film. Just incredible sir, hats off to you!
long-time subscriber. This showed up in my feed 3 days post-upload. I watched it then and am happy to watch again
I love FMJ, Kubrick might be the best director or all time. Also you can't get people to follow orders and die for their country in a democratic system. It is authoritarian and if you want to win against an enemy that wants to kill you, you can't have everyone questioning every order. I will take a line from another military movie, "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bustard die for his."
The magician performs the trick before entering the stage.
This quote comes to mind when I consider the methods used to make us deceive ourselves.
We believe there might have been a bad decision at one point for example when the tendency to make the decision was installed at an earlier time.
Frame the brainwashing and call it self improvement... that's like feed me shit and call it chocolate. Also, when you meet soldiers (my only knowledge is from the UK), particularly soldiers that haven't really seen an action in theatre, they do often act quite emotionally immature, like whatever they do is an act to improve their idea of a positive self image in front of others.
I didn't know you met my brother 😂.
He was in the UK military for 3 years and never saw active service. He was Exactly as you describe.
Coincidentally he actually did his basic training at Basingbourne Barracks while FMJ was being filmed there.
@@Rachel_M_ haha, excellent. You know what I mean though - you can be in a pub having a pint with them and it might just be the two of you but you can still feel them consciously trying to project and image.
As opposed to what, the 18-24 year old college students? Because it's the same age bracket. I'm not trying to be rude, but your anecdotal example is valid... anecdotally.
I can tell you that I've seen civilians that look down their nose at veterans like me, yet the moment one of their creature comforts is taken away- they crumple and fold, cry and whinge. I've seen them lose their spine at the mere sight of a potential confrontation or retreat whenever everyday normal life calls for you to step up and show some integrity or courage.
Is that universal? Absolutely not. I can tell you I've also met plenty of civilians that I'd have been glad to have in times of conflict, more so than some of the Marines I got stuck with.
@@elijahherstal776mate it’s just regurgitated boomer ideas, the looking down of a class of people which was made popular by media they consumed through pop culture. The hippie movement and its various forms in the following decades which encapsulated much of modern pop culture in the west. Military members are just seen as another class of dumb, squares, losers, etc. who have committed the cardinal sin of forsaking “individualism”, compared to the “free” yuppies who went to college on their parents dime and where they were taught the core tenets of hedonism & materialism. Look at the comments, see how many of these people are telling a similar story on how free and independent they were, how everyone else of whatever group they look down on just weren’t as heckin’ smart, witty, intelligent, as they were. They are all the main characters in the same movie lol
So much soy.
Maybe it got shadow banned because of the uncensored self termination by rapid cranial disassembly.
Maybe the out of context and unblurred deaths of Hartman and Lawerance was the motivation for the shadow ban? Just a guess, this is a great essay.
Definitely not, YT is full of unblurred clips from violent movies, many more much brutal than that scene.
@@collativelearning it's the Hit ler clip. If this upload is de-indexed again, you can try muting that section and see how it goes. They probably have automatic classifiers for those speeches, heh. Bigger channels can get away with that type of clip after manual intervention (sometimes), I suppose.
Sunflower is probably correct. The algorithm is not a person it is a robot. You triggered something within algorithm. Not one thing probably but a few that produced bingo! effect. Maybe even showing war is not something youtube likes. And youtube deffenetly doesn't like anti brainwashing videos:)))
@@jimdopango Maybe. But a quick search reveals one of his speeches has 73 million views.
@@CatSchrodingers i'm not sure I agree. It's quite well known that there are huge numbers of PR employees who trawl over social media, esp content creators with large followings, looking for stuff they think they need to block.
It's no wonder UA-cam would crack down on a video analyzing and detailing the mechanisms of *this subject.* It is the right hand of corporate globalism (among other things). Its chief stockholders are invested in washing.
This showed up in my feed as a recommendation. So as of now I think no manipulation has occurred. Thank you for your film analysis, on this and other films.
Goog to know :)
This showed up for me as a recommendation too. This is the first of your videos I have watched and my first time encountering your channel. I'm glad it was recommended to me!
same. and i wasn't subscribed at the time (no idea why though - the 2001 ideas are perfection)
me too, 10 hours after this comment
The beauty of this video is the highlighting of techniques used which means we can be on guard against them.
I guess you hit a nerve with this one! UA-cam and google are beyond tiresome.
I tried to full metal jacket myself into being a hard working military guy. I simply couldn't do it. I'll die or go insane before i can be a happy worker drone
''They've gotta break yeah to make yeah'' is a common phrase parroted by people who have been in the military.
Ha, yeah that's a stupid one lol
I was married to a marine and lived on several marine bases and i saw men get broken and others built up. My ex he was one of the broken and unfortunately he still is.
I loved this film and Kubrick is my very favorite director ever. I did an esaay on his work in film class and i appreciate this video and discussion it prompts. Great work 🙏💕✨
As much as I hate giving the government extra powers. Google has to be made to disclose their bias against certain creators and their content as well as their reasons for that bias.
Absolutely, given their dominance in the info sphere.
Nope I think the government needs to put the hammer down and force google and facebook to abide by the first amendment. Even though Google and facebook are private companies, restricting speech on these platforms is tantamount to restricting free speech, and the executives of these companies can control what gets disseminated into the public. The new policy should be you are allowed to say whatever the hell you want and still get monetized.
@@tag6502 The Constitution doesn't give you the right to deliberately spread lies.
"Freedom of Speech" doesn't mean what you've been told to think it means.
@@F_ckAllTrumpVoters Your username is something of a bias giveaway there. Both your party and that of your oppponents spread lots of "info" that the other claims are "lies". But no one can be given a monopoly on what is deemed truth or lie. because no one is perfect enough or honest enought to wield that power. That's why freedom of speech is important. If you have to silence your oppostion then you're more or less admitting you can't debate them effectively in an open arena of ideas.
@collativelearning The only entity to claim total "ownership" of the truth in your lifetime is the Church.
Im so glad that you are fighting the shadow bans and making more Full Metal Jacket content.
Rob have you ever spoken to Mark Devlin? He’s an Oxford born guy that I think you should have a chat with. He’s a former hip-hop DJ/music journalist and researcher and talks about how we are systematically brainwashed via the music industry, including movies. I think you might find him interesting.
I'm happy to report this re-uploaded video was an algorithmic recommendation for me. Thanks for always producing such great and thoughtful videos!
I suspect it has something to do with a scummy attempt at prioritizing big movie analysis channels that offer lame videos that get millions of views, they don’t want everyone moving to higher quality independent film analysis channels
"When people stop thinking they establish institutions." -Marshall McLauhuan
Just randomly aribed in my feed. Ok I looked up a FMJ clip. Never seen you before, so new viewer.
videos has been in my suggestions for the whole time it was uploaded
well, this is rather excellent. thanks rob. saving and sharing the video with my friends!
Kube also included birth motifs in his movies: Squirt's (Vivian), Frank's, HAL''s, and the Star Child in 2001 and Jesus' in FMJ. Even Helena's was referred to in EWS, because her age was mentioned, plus robot David in AI.
Bathrooms, birth, brain washing, and dehumanization - all themes in his movies!
Even Brian's in Barry Lyndon as it gave him a Lordship by proxy. Brian's death was the death of his dreams. I think that was the real reason he gave Lord Bullingdon an out in the final duel. His dreams were over as he had nothing more for which to live as Lady Lyndon would never give him another child due to his ill treatment of her.
Death - an other Kube theme. The Killing, Paths of Glory, Spartacus, Lolita (she died in childbirth), 2001 (enemy ape-men, Pool and scientists), A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, The Shining, FMJ, EWS, and AI. Even the never completed LotR (w/ The Beatles), Napoleon and Aryan Papers.
Great in depth analysis of this iconic masterpiece of a Vietnam movie
Interesting analysis. Hal Ashby’s ‘The Last Detail’ also has very blatant references to militarized brainwashing and cultish activity.
Also, another rather obvious reference to big government is Hartman’s famous point and shout into the camera, exactly like Uncle Sam.
Ad a former Marine I think Vietnam era up to before Gulf War era boot camp is a joke. It consisted of mostly drill and dormitory style hazing and shockingly little marksmanship or infantry training. The theatrics displayed by Gunny Hartman dont really have tactical benefit. So much time is wasted on dramatics to give pogues the false impression that they have been well trained.
Ironically, this is the first time a video of yours has been in my suggestions for years.
My first two months in Army basic training wasn’t too bad. But eventually the conditioning broke my will and it became very difficult. Became painfully homesick. Didn’t think I would make a career out of it but somehow I did. But that indoctrination peril is very rough for most people.
I can totally see why this was shadow banned. You’ve described precisely what social media platforms are up to.
Forgot to add this is precisely what internet search engines are up to as well.
I love and appreciate how you convinced me to watch this video right away by stating at the beginning that it would be one of the best and most important videos you’ve ever created.
Finally, it's back! Loved this, and I was wondering why it disappeared. The UA-cam algorithm is so lame.
Because of the preamble, I want to let you know that it says that the video was uploaded 6 days ago at the time of writing this, and the video showed up on my suggested videos. That's good news
A marine is not a soldier and a soldier is not a marine. Watching since 2008.
Excellent video! Loving your objective style. I did happen to have the video playing at the worst possible moment (our German friend) when people walked in the room lol
Haha
Hey man, loved your video analysis on the Shinning by Kubrick. ¿Will you ever analyze the film Joker 2 and why it failed with its core audience?
Thanks again for your great analysis.
I don't think it would be worth it.... they did that deliberately. It didn't fail at all.
@OfAngels444 Agreed but I would like to know his insight on the film's core message. Of course it depends if he considers making a video about this topic as "worth" for his channel.
Truly worth waiting for this one. Fantastic! My great thanks for this thoughtful discussion. I love your Kubrick work, and this was on yet another level. Thanks!
wow.. I just discovered this video! LOL I had not seen a Collative Learning notification in a while and was wondering where Rob was, so I came directly here and what do you know...
Is it possible the murder-suicide graphic scene in the beginning of the video is the reason for the shadow ban?
Thumbnail inspired by The Thing? Great video, Rob :)
I've also seen some of these techniques used in parenting. Amazing video.
Sunday evening sorted! Thanks Rob! Xxx
If this re-upload is identical to the original I think I know where the problem lies, of course I'm just guessing: the private committing sudoku (at 6:14 in this video).
I don’t think this video is shadow banned anymore! It popped in my feed and I assume it’s because I search for Kubrick videos regularly! Great video as usual and I’m glad it’s now more regularly available!!!
Thanks for the explanation Rob. 👍
Trusting your own lived experience and intuition is the opposite of what your brain washers desire from you. Never forget this
Kubrick's anti brainwashing masterpiece is still really Eyes Wide Shut. If anybody wants the beginning steps of understanding who exactly is "guiding" us, Look towards that film.
The cult in EWS isn't real, it's a hybrid representation of many secret societies, but the film also shows how conspiracy thinking can be taken too far. I mean the orgy is basically a dream sequence lol. Imo a lot of conspiracies are put out by the intel to scare people into silence and it works on a lot of people who consider themselves clued up.
@@collativelearning It is very real, I had a very close call in the mid 90's and was very lucky to escape getting too involved.
@@collativelearningIt is real.
@@collativelearningI have replied twice and both of my posts have disappeared. 🤔
@@collativelearningOh absolutely. Especially in the modern age where the internet has become a great tool for creating and spreading narratives to the masses. I've seen examples of that all over the place. Ppl claiming that this group over here runs everything or that group over there is behind it all. I've always believed the alphabet agencies are the ones pushing most of these narratives out there to funnel ppl down certain holes. It's why some end up so radicalized. Not everyone is capable of independent thought and analysis
Aw, I remember watching this video. I downloaded this and watched it last year. This is such a great video that showcases your psychology experience and how you brilliantly dissect propaganda and brainwashing. Another classic from you Sir Rob.
your videos are very interesting but would it be possible to have oppoortunity to activate subtitles?I am not mother tongue English and sometimes i do not catch some words/sentences.thx in advance.
I have to wait until the subtitles are generated by YT before I enable them. Sometimes this takes days.
18:25 I used to think military setvice served the ritualistic aspect of archaic societies Joseph cambell said was mostly missing in modern societies. To say it regresses the mind of men makes me wonder if I'm simply wrong, or it's specific to my country (Israel). In the context of cubrik, I've definitely seen it happen.
the finest ever vietnam film filmed in britain
Blah blah blah. Aren't you clever.
They needed a devastated, disease-infested hell-hole to set the film in…..east London was perfect!
Meanwhile, EastEnders is filmed in Hanoi.
Your video popped up in my feed for me when you uploaded at the very least.
FMJ is a true masterpiece. Cheers
In a movie of many brilliant and iconic scenes, I think the “sniper’s last stand” sequence was the best. Even 37 years later, it makes my heart race.
The reason this will be shadow banned again is because you didn't blur out the [unalive]/[self-unalive] at 6:09
If anything it would result in a strike or actual ban, not shadow banning
Just found it tonight. Been watching you for years
1. Unit (immediate comrades)
2. Core (military industrial complex)
3.God (religion)
4. Country (nationalism)
Now, that's 4 cults into 1 doctrine.
Corps*
One of my favorite videos from this channel over the last few years.
19:43 - "But these twists of logic are thrown at the recruits so quickly that they barely have a moment to question it".
That right there is the root of the methodology. Keep them off balance at all times, it breaks them quicker.
Always happy to watch another of your videos.
47:27 If you watch his speeches with subtitles, so you can actually understand what he says, it makes a lot of sense, which explains why a lot of people are noticing and sympathizing with him lately.
It's funny how we don't often get to read what he's saying isn't it? We just get to hear loud German being spoken.
As I said in the vid, a lot of brainwashing starts off witrh truthful elements to get people drawn in, then the bad stuff comes out the bag later.
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This was the first video in my feed. It seems you are back.
Probably shadow banned because of the racist epithets in the movie.
Around the 19 min mark.
That's the best part!
I think theres something to be said about religious brainwashing and how upset Hartman is that Joker doesn't follow in line with religion. But respects him for standing his ground .
5:07 He had a Brain Tumor though, and it was found that that was responsible for his spree.
Interesting fact: Tobe Hooper, co-creator and writer, and director of the Texas Chain Saw Massacre was in that courtyard during the shootings.
They blamed it on that eh? Pretty thin logic to say his bootcamp experience and training with weapons had nothing to do with it.
He did have a very large brain tumor, and headaches -- has to be considered as at least a potential contributor.
@@reallyhappenings5597 Of course. All psychopaths have multiple contributing factors to why they kill. Some factors are bigger than others. Lots of people with big brain tumors don't kill, probably very rare actually. Gotta take that into account. Apparently tons of people have various brain tumours and don't even know it.
@@collativelearning "I had a brain tumour, and I had visions... But when they removed the tumour... It was called Videodrome."
Never knew this video was removed, it was one that really stuck with me too!
Rob would love to see you do a profile of the character 'Bunny' from the movie Platoon, because i've always stuggled to decide if he was a 'psychopath' who chose evil doings, or simply an unintelligent uncaring person who is blind to right and wrong. Would love to know your thoughts on him!
He's a great character and Kevin Dillon was a marvellous actor. Watch him in Heaven Help Us, very funny guy.
@@collativelearning fab thanks i'll watch it ❤
@@collativelearningI've always found Barnes to be an interesting character in the same movie. Him and Elias were like 2 sides of the same coin.
@@Sweeptheleg83 I've got videos on both Elias and Barnes. check my site. One's a freebie, the other is a paid dl.
Right and wrong do not exist. There is no good, or evil, and what you perceive as "right" is mere personal preference. Grow up.
Former Air Force here (i know...i know). It was hilarious how different the TIs acted when the officers were present as opposed to when they werent. Also, my TIs were the ones that went to prison after the uh...Lackland scandal a few years ago. That was quite a mind job. I was junior enlisted when they all got busted.
If you are not a combat veteran, you will never get this movie...ever
My dad was a combat veteran (was in the Israeli Defense Force and was in combat for a skirmish called the "Yon Kippur War") And he got this movie through and through.
Kubrick himself wasn't a combat veteran. He wasn't even military trained. So why would you hold his movie up as being representative of the the combat veteran experience?
@@collativelearning The film had many contributors who were combat veterans, Lee Ermey himself had experience in the Vietnam war.
Aren't you a special snowflake.
I don't think I've ever been to this channel before and I somehow save this video to my watch later playlist so it must have popped up into one of the recommended videos somewhere I didn't get here from a direct link from a direct link so that's good news
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Absolutely fascinating analysis, as always, by you Rob. It gave me a whole new insight into Kubriks work. That’s all I can ask for: entertaining education and widening my horizon of understanding 😊
that's so sinister to not only shadow ban a video, but hide it from the uploader. imagine working at google or youtube and being explained how this works and then doing it. This is basically the public square now, what kind of person would be ok with that?
This is off topic, but do you have a list anywhere of every single time a movie/piece of media uses the "Also sprach Zarathustra" music from 2001 a space odyssey? Or can you please tell off the top of your head? The only reason is because I heard it in a cartoon recently and it I wouldn't have noticed it if it wasn't for your videos. It played just a few notes, it was quite concealed.
I don't have a list but I've come across at least 20 examples before in movies and TV shows.
Thanks for the reply. I think I remember watching a video of yours where you show a few examples of this, but I don't know which video it was now. The cartoon I heard it in was dragon ball super (DBS), a poor sequel to the popular 90's kids show dragon ball z (DBZ). In DBS, the very first idea which is pushed is the idea that the beloved main character from the old show (DBZ) has the potential to ascend to being a god/divine being, instead of just an alien resembling a human (that's what he was always before this). And the moment the transformation takes place, just around three notes of "Also sprach Zarathustra", then it instantly switches to a different soundtrack. This sparked a curiosity in me to look up all the examples of this to connect the dots, from what I remember it's always been about 'ascending' somehow I guess? But then this cartoon made me think, are they pushing the idea of making us think we have the potential to be gods?
If you could kindly point me to the direction of the video which I mentioned first if you know it, I'd really appreciate it, and also if you remember any of the examples you mentioned please if you can put them in your reply please. This is purely because of curiosity I'm not going to make a video or anything, in fact I hope you make one again about this lol.
The Capsule Corp ship and Saiyan pods are direct ripoffs of two 2001 ships. Zarathustra is a widely used, popular piece in many disciplines. For example, I always get a kick out of hearing it for the opening of the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
Was at top of my feed as soon as i opened UA-cam. A much appreciated start to the day